Tommy:

I’ll see your question:

“If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?”

And raise you one of my own.

What will happen when a Muslim woman in Hijab refuses either the search or the scan? Will she be excused for poltically correct reasons, or threatened with “civil action” the way they have this guy? I’m waiyting for the first test case in THAT area.

Sort of a strange situation they’ve gotten themselves into isn’t it? Profiling is out of the question because they might offend someone, but groping someone’s, er, naughty bits is okay.

And to think…..for hundreds of years…..people have been going out to clubs and “social” events…with the one hope …..that someone would actually touch their junk…

“If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?”

well, considering we’re in this friggin nightmare to begin with because of a group of “swarthy dudes named (similarly to) Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad”, probably not.

Harry – They are already making exceptions for women in Hijabs – they can only touch their heads, and they can even pat down their own heads.

They need to use the screeners that convert images to stick figures and spare us ALL having to be humiliated and groped.

sarainitaly said:
“If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?”

well, considering we’re in this friggin nightmare to begin with because of a group of “swarthy dudes named (similarly to) Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad”, probably not.

Harry – They are already making exceptions for women in Hijabs – they can only touch their heads, and they can even pat down their own heads.

They need to use the screeners that convert images to stick figures and spare us ALL having to be humiliated and groped.

I really don’t see the need to demonize entire groups of people, and in your case, all groups of people who lead lives somewhat different than your own. The constant hate and friction get to be a bit much.

The problem is that if the US makes this a mandatory thing over here, there’s nothing to say that this will be mandatory on incoming flights from around the world. I believe there are a lot more (better) ways to control the safety of flying such as the use of dogs and the better training of the TSA agents. It came to light last week in Orlando International Airport that a TSA agent has lost their ID and security card, so there is some unauthorized person walking around with a security card that will enable them to get in to restricted areas! How after all of the recent security measures imposed upon us is this able to happen? With regards to the recent “Toner” bomb plot the Airport security needs to be changed. Every bag needs to be scanned. They should make check in after security, so that you have to walk through with your bag while it is going through the scanners. This would not only act as a deterrent to would be terrorists but will also ensure that every single bag going onto a plane is scanned and checked as at the moment this does not happen.

leagueofpower said:
The problem is that if the US makes this a mandatory thing over here, there’s nothing to say that this will be mandatory on incoming flights from around the world. I believe there are a lot more (better) ways to control the safety of flying such as the use of dogs and the better training of the TSA agents. It came to light last week in Orlando International Airport that a TSA agent has lost their ID and security card, so there is some unauthorized person walking around with a security card that will enable them to get in to restricted areas! How after all of the recent security measures imposed upon us is this able to happen? With regards to the recent “Toner” bomb plot the Airport security needs to be changed. Every bag needs to be scanned. They should make check in after security, so that you have to walk through with your bag while it is going through the scanners. This would not only act as a deterrent to would be terrorists but will also ensure that every single bag going onto a plane is scanned and checked as at the moment this does not happen.

I was always impressed with uniformed officers armed with automatic weapons patrolling the airport.

Tommy said: “Exit question: If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?”

LOL. You wouldn’t be just causing trouble here, would you?

I guess this guy won’t support DADT. Don’t touch my junk.

RRK wants to touch your junk. Watch out, he is very strange. He won’t tell me about his get out the vote walk in Austin. He has a lot of influence with those Texas voters. He sure caused Gov. Perry a lot of problems.

The Real Royal King said:
I really don’t see the need to demonize entire groups of people, and in your case, all groups of people who lead lives somewhat different than your own. The constant hate and friction get to be a bit much.

This is exactly where this is headed. I believe that Tyner is legitimately concerned about privacy, but his cause will be taken up by people who are only interested in promoting profiling by protecting only some people’s privacy, those in the majority.

sarainitaly said:
“If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?”

well, considering we’re in this friggin nightmare to begin with because of a group of “swarthy dudes named (similarly to) Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad”, probably not.

Harry – They are already making exceptions for women in Hijabs – they can only touch their heads, and they can even pat down their own heads.

They need to use the screeners that convert images to stick figures and spare us ALL having to be humiliated and groped.

You realize that Dave Chappelle, Lupe Fiasco, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Muhammad Ali, Busta Rhymes, Akon, Nas, Mos Def, country-rap star Everlast and Ice Cube are all muslims, right? Are they subject to the same scrutiny as those others?

Here’s another exit question. I share Tyner’s objection to the expense of AIT et al, vs. the return on investment. Turning the TSA into the Mossad promises to cost even more. Are air travelers willing to have this expense built into their ticket price, or are the rest of us, who rarely if ever fly, expected to subsidize their jet-setting lifestyle?

I really don’t see the need to demonize entire groups of people,

Really King…is this really you writing this?

I guess it is OK to demonize individuals (MichelleF from Utah), it is OK to demonize …say conservatives, or Republicans, or ….should I say it….The Tea Party.

You sir are a hypocrite…and creepy as hell.

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The Real Royal King said:
I really don’t see the need to demonize entire groups of people

Tommy Christopher said:
This is exactly where this is headed.

Like you do every day…..

This has got to be the new quote of the left….”I see no need to demonize entire groups…unless they are conservative or Republican groups.”

Thank god … Only 722 Days left…..

gordonbloyershow said:
I guess this guy won’t support DADT. Don’t touch my junk.

RRK wants to touch your junk. Watch out, he is very strange. He won’t tell me about his get out the vote walk in Austin. He has a lot of influence with those Texas voters. He sure caused Gov. Perry a lot of problems.

Actually, I gave you a wonderful, full response on another thread. You seem to be a hit and run guy.

“Turning the TSA into the Mossad promises to cost even more.”

Actually Israel has a MUCH more effective and MUCH less intrusive way of discerning possible security threats, all without patting down nuns and eighty-nine year olds in a wheel chair. When I was in the UK in August, lotsa cops with dogs were patrolling Gatwick and yet, somehow, they didn’t have ESL illegal aliens patting down people’s junk. TC has a very biased view in favor of HSA and TSA, just like his MessNBC masters command. In fact, TC, when is the last time you flew into Israel or even to that part of the Middle East? I ‘ve done it a lot and I’ve flown in the US and the US is full of lazy PC crones like Janet Napolitano who always fly US gummint airlines. She should try flying like the hoi polloi once in a while.

Tommy Christopher said:
This is exactly where this is headed. I believe that Tyner is legitimately concerned about privacy, but his cause will be taken up by people who are only interested in promoting profiling by protecting only some people’s privacy, those in the majority.

So far, I’m far from convinced of the reliability, durability and efficacy of this particular technology. I’ve been at AMS, FLL and LHR when the equipment was out of service. Security at AMS said that it is down more often than it is operational.

David Mangan said:
ESL illegal aliens

Is that really necessary? It certainly isn’t true.

BatBoy said:
Like you do every day…..

This has got to be the new quote of the left….”I see no need to demonize entire groups…unless they are conservative or Republican groups.”

Thank god … Only 722 Days left…..

I never said Republican or conservative. I said “people who are only interested in promoting profiling by protecting only some people’s privacy, those in the majority.”

I happen to be a trained Arabist who was an FSO and spoke and read the language fluently. I’ve lived a decade in the Middle East and when I read something like “Exit question: If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?,” I know that I am dealing with a truly clueless dunce.

When is the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowd? Take your time, Tommy, I’m sure the answer, which is NEVER, is out there but you ain’t smart enough to find it, are you?

OTOH, radical sects of Shi’ites and Sunnis regard this sort of death in a ‘jihad’ context a shortcut to heaven. You could look it up.

Down here in S. Florida, RRK, “ESL illegal aliens” fit the profile [oops, that word again!] of at least five TSA weirdo emplyees at PBIA last time I flew there. I will bet you that Janet N. doesn’t put a lot of pressure on ICE to out TSA employees who’ve been longtime illegals, who all, of course, have the paperwork that gulled Meg Whitman into hiring an illegal who then was outed by your girlfriend and soulmate, Gloria Allred.

when i saw the headline “don’t touch my junk” i thought that was something obama said to the chinese about our economy.

David Mangan said:
I happen to be a trained Arabist who was an FSO and spoke and read the language fluently. I’ve lived a decade in the Middle East and when I read something like “Exit question: If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen?,” I know that I am dealing with a truly clueless dunce.

When is the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowd? Take your time, Tommy, I’m sure the answer, which is NEVER, is out there but you ain’t smart enough to find it, are you?

OTOH, radical sects of Shi’ites and Sunnis regard this sort of death in a ‘jihad’ context a shortcut to heaven. You could look it up.

Yes, fixing our security efforts around what happened “last time” is a genius strategy.

David Mangan said:
Down here in S. Florida, RRK, “ESL illegal aliens” fit the profile [oops, that word again!] of at least five TSA weirdo emplyees at PBIA last time I flew there. I will bet you that Janet N. doesn’t put a lot of pressure on ICE to out TSA employees who’ve been longtime illegals, who all, of course, have the paperwork that gulled Meg Whitman into hiring an illegal who then was outed by your girlfriend and soulmate, Gloria Allred.

We have our share of Big Dumb Nuts here at Mediate, but I’m afraid you’re too big, too dumb and too nutty even for Mediate. Maybe, Cecelia can fix you up at the Koldys’ PHOX Phan Klub. You’re certainly paranoid and xenophobic enough to thrive in that environment.

David Mangan said:
When is the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowd?

Well, you’ve got me there. Certainly, Eric Rudolph killed and injured a number of people with bombs, but he never exploded himself. I guess that’s better?

Exit question: If Tyner was a swarthy dude named Mohammed Hussein Tynedinejad, would the media be covering his refusal to be screened with the same folk-hero sheen? ”

No, you and your lib ilk would be on this for days talking about the TSA’s Islamophobia.

Listen, if this is the only way to stop your friendly Muslim terrorists, and I’m not saying it is, then that’s what you have to do. If ya don’t like it, work with the TSA to see if a more “consumer friendly ” scan can be done. Until then, drive and shut up.

The Real Royal King said:
Well, you’ve got me there. Certainly, Eric Rudolph killed and injured a number of people with bombs, but he never exploded himself. I guess that’s better?

No, but he didn’t do it out of a deluded psychotic view of his religion like your Muslim friends do.

Tommy Christopher said:
This is exactly where this is headed. I believe that Tyner is legitimately concerned about privacy, but his cause will be taken up by people who are only interested in promoting profiling by protecting only some people’s privacy, those in the majority.

why is it that only some people’s privacy is protected? Women in hijabs are excluded from these invasive and humiliating tactics. How is that fair to everyone else? Why are they spared, but this little girl was traumatized and touched all over her body – something I’m sure her parents taught her was wrong.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/15/show-me-on-the-doll-where-the-tsa-screener-touched-you/

Why can’t they use the scanners that don’t show your naked bits, but convert the images to a sexual stick figures?

Why does the majority have to be humiliated and violated because of the continued actions of muslim extremists?

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sarainitaly said:
Why can’t they use the scanners that don’t show your naked bits, but convert the images to a sexual stick figures?

I guess this article just answered my question…

‘Naked scanners’: Lobbyists join the war on terror

The degradations of passing through full-body scanners that provide naked pictures of you to Transportation Security Administration agents may not mean that the terrorists have won — but they do mark victories for a few politically connected high-tech companies and their revolving-door lobbyists.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/_Naked-scanners__-Lobbyists-join-the-war-on-terror-1540901-107548388.html#ixzz15PGEjBvD

Tommy Christopher said:
but his cause will be taken up by people who are only interested in promoting profiling by protecting only some people’s privacy, those in the majority.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the cause will be taken up by people interested in protection the privacy of EVERYONE?

sarainitaly said:
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the cause will be taken up by people interested in protection the privacy of EVERYONE?

Well, my comment was in response to several comments calling for profiling, which is evidence to the contrary,

Comments where?

The only profiling we are seeing so far is to give special considerations to Muslim women in hijabs, and union pilots and FAs.

Although I do think they need to do a little profiling when it comes to terrorizing and sexually molesting little three year old girls.

Back in the early 80s I traveled to the then Soviet Union. Leaving the country we were frisked, patted down, manhandled, etc. As I approached the uniformed, god-like soldier who was about to molest me, I asked him if he spoke English. He said, “Nyet.” Trusting he was telling the truth, as he grabbed my crotch I asked in a loud voice, “Does this mean we’re engaged?” My fellow travelers laughed.

People need to relax.

i totally agree with John in Philly “PEOPLE NEED TO RELAX” starting with “junk”-man john tyner who reveals in this fox interview that he “ONLY FLIES ONCE A YEAR” while revealing on his blog that this infrequent flier status hasn’t stopped him from SWEARING OFF AMERICAN AIRLINES DUE TO A BAD EXPERIENCE (seems to be a quite a lot of that flying around you mr tyner)

http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html
“I made my way over to the American Airlines counter, explained the situation, and asked if my ticket could be refunded. The woman behind the counter was able to refund my ticket. I told her that I had previously had a bad experience with American Airlines and had sworn never to fly with them again (I rationalized this trip since my father-in-law had paid for the ticket), but that after her helpfulness, I would once again be willing to use their carrier again.”

Bottom Line; Did someone try to explode a bomb located in his underwear on flight 253 on Christmas Day? Yes. Is the TSA or any other law enforcement agencies allowed to Profile?No. Does the majority of passengers tolerate the TSA? and see it a safety precaution?Yes. Did this IDIOT take up the time of others and cause a deliberate preplanned situation cause of his own individual beliefs or insecurities? Yes. should then he himself be considered a threat or unstable individual, who may be a safety problem for the majority of passengers , and not be allowed to enter any U.S. airport , and to be fined the maximum, because of his premeditated intent to disrupt airport safety precautions?YES.

Brokeneck said:
Bottom Line; Did someone try to explode a bomb located in his underwear on flight 253 on Christmas Day? Yes. Is the TSA or any other law enforcement agencies allowed to Profile?No. Does the majority of passengers tolerate the TSA? and see it a safety precaution?Yes. Did this IDIOT take up the time of others and cause a deliberate preplanned situation cause of his own individual beliefs or insecurities? Yes. should then he himself be considered a threat or unstable individual, who may be a safety problem for the majority of passengers , and not be allowed to enter any U.S. airport , and to be fined the maximum, because of his premeditated intent to disrupt airport safety precautions?YES.

You are an incredible moron. To think profiling is worse than a clear disregard to your 4th amendment right is really lame. So I guess we should all lay down for the convenience of others? When our rights are violated it is not only our right but our responsibility to speak up and make it known. We are not sheep nor are we unpatriotic. We expect our government to uphold our constitution, not violate it. How could he have possibly known he would be taken out of line for additional screening? You call not wanting a nude picture of you taken and recorded or a groping from the same sex an insecurity? To tolerate the TSA to the extent that it makes sense, I would agree. But 80% of passengers walk right through the metal detector. A random selection could only detour a would be terrorist not prevent it. You are really just a moron. I wish people would have to pass a test before they comment. It’s infuriating to hear people like you make statements that approve the complacent American. It’s our complacency to our governments deep involvement in foreign policy that got us attacked in the first place. Get a clue.

Well, Mikeyman, Why don’t you tell all of us, your plan to protect the Skies and the Terminals over the holidays 2010, 2011? Remember 80% of travelers are willing to tolerate the TSA and the system in place. So tell us what do you propose to put in play to save us all when we travel?Seems to me that you have nothing to bring to the table , so why don’t you shut the hell up , stay home and and play with your red,white and blue dildo,move to Frisco and keep something in your mouth so we don’t to hear it . Thats the problem with bleeding hearts like you . you will be the first to blame the US GOVERNMENT as you watch your family go down in a ball of fire, yet as you are showing all of us now ,you also would be the first to blame the US GOVERNMENT, for a little inconvenience for a preflight safety check.