I can hear the sound of Bachmann’s head exploding as she realizes that the Garden of Evil – NYC – was pretty much spared of any major damage. HMMM, NYC traditionally votes down the Democratic line so, maybe she’s right .. maybe G-d WAS telling us something . Just sayin’ ..

Ughhh. The more I hear from Bachman, the less I like her. Next!

Oh brother…here we go again….Keller at the NYTimes started it and now all th elefties want to jump on board and start a conversation about God versus aliens.   I don’t understand for the life of me why lefties put so much blind faith in the NYTimes and follow their lead. 

NYC is also a terminally bankrupt craphole with failing public schools, hyper-unionization, high crime and high taxes.

I caught a bit on CNN where it was presented that Bachmann was joking, and the audience laughed.

Of course that could be seen as being in very bad taste, but do we always have to be that PC that we can’t joke about some aspect of it?

As for the article above, I go with the idea that if we are going to pretend that this might be a signal from God, then the most likely cause would be Tea Party activity this summer, not an election that took place two years ago. Several political cartoonists have implied that this might be a message to all politicians, not just one party.

In other words, there is no way that Bachmann should be either joking or  serious about God’s message in this. She cannot say it is anti-liberal.

I won’t argue against the high taxes, but you’re dead wrong on crime.  NYC ranks 165th in the rate of violent crimes across the nation, while still being the most populated and diverse city.  NYC is most likely the safest large city on the planet.  Hell, Arlington, Texas has a higher violent crime rate than New York City.

We’re also not bankrupt.  We’ve had to make some pretty serious cuts, many that I disagree with, but we made them.  However, if you want to talk about failing public schools, you should speak with Bloomberg about the firing of over 700 teachers in the next couple of months. 

There’s an argument to be made about how your ‘hyper-unionization’ helps preserve jobs here in NYC and went a long way in helping dampen the blow of the recession.

And of course it’s a crap hole.  If you moved here for beautiful weather and sanitized streets, you’re here for the wrong reasons.

Unionization only protects (and allows for) jobs for those who are members of the union, and even then, younger unionized workers are quickly and gladly sacrificed if concessions need to be made so that the older union members don’t become inconvenienced. Everyone else can go to hell.

Thus has it been. Thus it will always be.

Maybe you can explain the “rubber room” that teachers who never should have had jobs or been permitted to KEEP their jobs were sent to usurp taxpayer money.  Thank you, teacher’s union.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126055157

The fact of the matter is that it is NO JOKING MATTER. The families of those who lost loved ones would be hard-pressed to see the humor in all this, just as much as them not grasping “God’s message” (to whom?) in taking their loved ones away from them.

After George Bush’s religious invocations that God told him to become president in 1998 and later to invade Afghanistan and Iraq I certainly will never trust Republicans again who claim a separate phone line with the Almighty. I’m going to assume that God has been having a nervous breakdown given his poor advice to George Bush so I choose to not to listen to any politician who invokes God while they are campaigning for at least a few more election cycles.

You know it really is funny to me that garbage like this is being said today and allegedly by intelligent people and keep in mind I said allegedly. This is what this country that I am proud to be a part of is coming to. You can’t blame tragedies on god. Especially when you are only saying these things to get elected into public office. You shouldn’t say it at all simply because there were people hurt and damages were done. This individual has some very warped ideas of God, his wrath among other issues. It is sad to me that this is one of the top people that the Republicans have to offer this country. We really need to think long and hard about all of the comments that have been made. The hurricane and the earthquake have nothing to do with punishment by god.  I do not care what this person has to say, she is like all of the politicians and all she is doing is trying to scare people into believing this garbage for her own gain and that is the only fact to any of this. Sad and pathetic.

“The fact of the matter is that it is NO JOKING MATTER.”

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! We have a winner. That sums it up perfectly. Those types of jokes aren’t even acceptable from comedians after disasters like that. 

God thought Chris Christie was a beached whale, and sent  a lot of water to try to refloat him.

So unoriginal, I could have written it.

Gosh, don’t you love it when liberals use the another’s religious views to bash a conservative on issues that they align with??? Hey, Bump, there is a rumor that God is not too taken with abortion, or homosexuality. How has that worked out for us? What is it you need clarification for??? So you can pick and choose which edicts from God you adhere to and which you scoff at? I mean, after all, seems like anyone can interpret His intent these days.

Gosh, I’m surprised I hven’t seen the “Perry is stupid” article from Politico the board here yet.  Someone is slipping up on passing the trash on Perry around here.  I guess the two bachmann articles make up for the lack of the Perry story.

Asking rational questions of an irrational extremist is like … well, no good analogies come to mind.  Let’s just call it a waste of time. Richard Dawkins explained it well, concerning the likes of Bachmann: 

What is unusual about today’s Republican party (I disavow the ridiculous ‘GOP’ nickname, because the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt has lately forfeited all claim to be considered ‘grand’) is this: In any other party and in any other country, an individual may occasionally rise to the top in spite of being an uneducated ignoramus. In today’s Republican Party ‘in spite of’ is not the phrase we need. Ignorance and lack of education are positive qualifications, bordering on obligatory. Intellect, knowledge and linguistic mastery are mistrusted by Republican voters, who, when choosing a president, would apparently prefer someone like themselves over someone actually qualified for the job.

If given a choice during the primaries next year, I’ll be voting for a plutocrat Like Huntsman over any of the religulous choices like Bachmann or Rick Perry. 

So you admit you’re wrong on every other point and wholly misinformed?

Because Christie is overweight. Yes. We get it.

You’re the first person that’s ever noticed that, but thanks for helping everyone else out.

Won’t that give the election to the black theologian???

Could you point out to me the verses in which Christ speaks outs against homosexuality?

By the way, do you see the word “Christ” anywhere in my post???

There are a number of direct references to homosexual activity in the Bible.[1] These almost exclusively concern male homosexuality. In the Hebrew Bible (more specifically, in Mosaic law), male homosexuality is identified as an “abomination”. In the New Testament, Paul of Tarsus condemns arsenokoitēs,
which term is related to male homosexuality, but open to some
interpretation, as either any male homosexual acts, or more specifically
male homosexual prostitution. Paul also makes a possible allusion to female homosexuality when he refers to “unnatural relations” between women in the Epistle to the Romans.

Yeah. And in the immortal words of 0bama’s favorite reverend G_ddamn America! Choose the godless party!

Typical. You actually read that much bigoted message into that??? Wow. I bet he wants dirty air and water, too? And, you left out that he’s racist.

I admitted that?

NYC is bankrupt (otherwise they wouldn’t have to make any cuts), there are too many unions (specifically public employee unions), there is a lot of violent crime, and he’s generally a hellhole unless you’re one of the beautiful people who can afford to live in a nicer area of town away from the great unwashed. And it’s crowded.

You need to read more carefully.

So it’s not ok to love another of the same sex, but it’s just fine for prophets to toss children to hungry bears because the kids disrespected the “holy men?”  Isn’t it possible that both of those points of view can now be seen as utterly out-dated?

First I would like to say that Richard Dawkins is an idiot. Because someone has different beliefs doesn’t make them ignorant nor uneducated. 

It’s liberal fools like Dawkins who are the ignorant ones. They are unable to discuss policy so they instead personally attack anyone who disagrees with them.

Having said that, I don’t particularly care to have politicians publicly mixing religion with politics. But I would never attack them for their religious beliefs.

Don’t worry, it will be all over cable soon enough.

Gosh she’s HOT.

I think he’s sort of criticizing Bachman for picking and choosing as well.  I think, since she brought up this stupid idea, that your beef is with her and not the guy who is, rightly, making fun of her.

or, you know, live in the 17th century.  After all, it seems most Americans stopped their understanding of the world sometime before the Enlightenment began

Mosaic law also condemns having relations with a woman when she is menstruating (the penalty is death) and demands that a man marry his sister-in-law if his brother dies and permits slavery.

Why do YOU get to pick and choose which one you get to follow (not to mention concoct out of whole cloth an injunction against abortion)

Mosaic law also condemns having relations with a woman when she is menstruating (the penalty is death) and demands that a man marry his sister-in-law if his brother dies and permits slavery.

Why do YOU get to pick and choose which one you get to follow (not to mention concoct out of whole cloth an injunction against abortion)

says the representative of a movement whose main rebuttal to both Michael Moore and Al Gore is they are fat.

Holy moly! So this is called a joke in some circles.

hilarious.  Danielson first wrongly quotes Wright, a minister who was giving a speech about how God will judge America, and THEN declares that Democrats are “godless.”*  contradicts himself in only two sentences.  I’d say that’s a record, but, Tea Partiers do it several times a day on these threads

*Which would be cool and all, but is not true.

So, Michelle shouldn’t try to exploit their these tragedies for her selfish electoral gain?  Wow, I think you might be close to a breakthrough

Sure, they are.  Bachmann apparently thinks little enough of them to paste a cross on them; why would you be offended if comedians used them in their jobs.  What’s good for Michelle is good for the gander

And the center of finance and culture for the whole country, but still, nice work

Looks like the religious crazies who usually scream “the end of the world is coming” from a street corner are now running for the president of the United States.How sad and embarrassing for the republican party this is all they have to offer.

And, the L T’s anti-union jihad continues. 

If we all just be serf’s on the Lord’s manor, we would all be happy.  Why must workers band together?  I mean, once they did, America created a successful urban middle class, which is now being dismantled, but who cares:  unions=evil

Why should this be any different?

For a woman her age, she certainly holds up well

Seriously, do you remember Operation Rescue?  This lunatic was one of those kooks.

Dawkins is a genius, but he’s an a$$hole.  So, you’re wrong about the idiot part.  Further, Dawkins is English, so I doubt he cares about American policy prescriptions. 

Still, the last point is dead on

Yes your godless party is none-to-afraid to reference god to further their agenda, anytime. Just got to love the god-fearing revereds Pfleiger, Sharpton, and Jackson. Oh, is Maxine Waters a god-fearing democrat??? LOL. Your reply is the joke. Hilarious indeed!

13 Mar 2008 … Barack Obama’s pastor says blacks should not sing “God Bless America” but ” God damn America.” The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor…

Wow, that says how God will “judge” America??? So listening to the pathetic whitey basher, again, I find you to be a pathetic apologist for a clearly racist black theologian preacher who hates American capitalism, but lives in a gated white community in a multi-million dollar mansion!

The actual quote (notice the personal “Wright” embellishment, clown.)

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America.Naw, naw,
naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America!That’s in the Bible. (it is???? Where????)For
killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as
less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she
is God and she is Supreme.”

Where do the wingnuts find these clowns? LOL

Really, Mosaic law also condemns having relations with a woman when she is
menstruating (the penalty is death) and demands that a man marry his
sister-in-law if his brother dies and permits slavery?

Well, please cite that passage anywhere in the bible or…in the New Testament, which you twist to suit your needs on a daily basis as a liberal. Which one do you read, by the way???

(not to mention concoct out of whole cloth an injunction against abortion) So
you are implying that god would be down with the killing of the unborn??? Please cite any passage that would give you such an idea.

Oh, and since liberals are too quick to bash Bachmann, and soon Gov. Perry, have some fun and check out their genius president, and his wife, and some of his newly published works:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/early_obama_letter_confirms_inability_to_write.html

Of course, I do.  I just don’t see the difference between Wright and Bachmann.  He says America’s actions will get America judged (that’s what “damned” means) and Bachmann says America IS being judged. 

Wright based his interpretations along the lines of this http://www.abcog.org/nh/judgment.htm

i get that you don’t like Wright. He’s a success, a former Marine, and believes in God……hold on, why wouldn’t you like him?  Hmmmm, what could it be….hmmm, I’ll go out on a limb and note that the list of ministers you don’t like have one thing in common:  they are “liberals.”  YOU think God is a partisan!  how hysterical is that.

I will note the irony that you dislike the Reverend Wright for being against the murder of innocents.  man, that would set me off too!

You probably voted for one religious crazy whose preacher exclaimed: G_ddamn America! and thinks his race is the superior race on the planet. And what would the left’s LaRaza have to say about that, anyway?

You know, I hate when I remember the penalities wrong….the penalty wasn’t death.  Still, weird laws

Leviticus 15

19 
¶ And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.

20 
And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.

21 
And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

22 
And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

23 
And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.

24 
And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he
shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be
unclean.Still, I went ahead and found all the capital crimes in Mosaic law for yahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_crimes_in_the_TorahSounds a little harsh to me, then again, it sounded harsh to Christ too.  Good luck getting that through Congress, especially that penalty of death for smiting a parent

note to politicians.  Don’t make jokes, journalists and bloggers think you’re serious. Yes, that’s stupid, but it is also VERY true.  

No worries, though the media has so little credibility, yet strangely enough, seems hell-bent on beating congress to the remove the few holdouts left. 

As for the abortion part, “So you are implying that god would be down with the killing of the unborn??”

Well, God doesn’t exist, so I’m not too concerned  Still, I’m not the one who is arguing he knows the mind of God, you are claiming YOU do.  Are you telling me that he forgot to put it in there?  Seems strange, since He would have to know how important it would become to Republicans

I doubt Michelle is aware of the last story.  I find most Christians are not

i hear her saying ‘boy Cain’ was right.  the media really does NOT Have a sense of humor.  Nor common sense.  

funny post.  

that’s a lot to get from a simple post.  

That’s funny, because the taxes that New Yorkers pay go towards paying for fat Republican conservatives in Mississippi. Git’r done!

OK, lessee … “God is punishing (some of) us” is a joke, or metaphorical word-play, or irony?

So … was Michele Bachmann “joking,” or IS she a joke? 

Ironically, public employee unions are now a drag and yoke on the middle class.

“Culture?”

LOL

I just think it’s crazy when Gilbert Gotfried is held to a higher standard than an elected officlial who has aspirations of being POTUS.

Borrowing your framing, you’re paying for their welfare. You should be doing it happily. You’re a liberal and are only concerned with helping people, no matter who they are or what they believe.

That’s not the primary criticism of them. Their politics are moronic, their integrity questionable, their charlatan nature confirmed, their hypocrisy rank and their influence disproportionate to what it should be.

That it is pointed out that they’re large human beings is admittedly childish, and holds as much water as the initial criticism I responded to.

I was unaware that I’ve been appointed a “representative” of a “movement.”

And borrowing your framing, states like Democratic-leaning New York and GOP Texas should stop bankrupting themselves to pay for states that suck, like Mississippi.

But we can’t do that as we are a nation. We’re supposed to help each other.

besides, if states stopped being so generous to the already wealthy, as well as cut wasteful spending, we just might balance our budgets and pay down the deficit.

I really admire that you practically admit you’re a socialist too as you don’t seem to mind the wealthier states paying for the poorer states.

lane1, if  this were a first for Bachmann then I could understand your point but Bachmann has made these types of statements before and it’s not a good look for her.

I’ve been in hospitals a lot, and the people with a good sense of humor tend to handle the toughest times the best.  As to God’s message, that’s for every person to decide. 

So you think making a joke about a natural disaster that has left people without power, running water, phone lines, and homes is appropriate? If she becomes president. would you laugh at her joke about a tsunami hitting Thailand or widespread famine in Nigeria? She’s a public figure. She’s supposed to have better judgment than to trivialize a deadly hurricane with bipartisan humor.

Several passages in the OT reference god’s COMMANDS to kill every male in several conquered places, along with every non-virginal female and every baby, male or female below the age of two!  He apparently didn’t find abortion important enough to mention, but he had no problem at all  slaughtering innocent babies by the hundreds and thousands!

There is no biblical injunction against abortion, period.

When they believe in imposing their medieval superstitions on the rest of us; it is the obligation of every American to attack them on it.

How would you feel if a politician was advocating imposition of Sharia?

She’s the joke, but not a funny one.

Ya.  Their “knowledge” is all filtered through the sermons of some nutcase preacher who invariably leaves out all the inconvenient parts – of which there are many.

No doubt this is the very same GOD who had a running conversation with BushDrunk #2 and constantly advised him.  Remember??  How quickly the masses forget.

I’d rather not ‘explain’ the inexplicable.  I was appalled the first I heard of them and I applauded Bloomberg for abolishing them.

Why, exactly, are condemnations of America for evils that it has done so horrific when they are made from the left, but completely righteous coming from nutcases like Falwell, Robertson and Bachman?

Why does anybody quote the Bible? A lot of the books the Catholic church put in the Bible were not written down until decades after the original author wrote the letters or gave the sermons. Even if there was an original author. So many people put their own interpretations as they repeated the sermons and read the letters, who knows what the original intents were? And, then not to mention the King James version which changed so many words cause he did not want the poor masses to think they were special in God’s eyes. He also did not want women getting ideas and getting uppity. So, stop quoting the Bible. Say what you think, but claim it for your own. Otherwise, one must think you can’t think for yourself.

I like you! You make sense! And you don’t hide behind a moniker!

Yeah, culture. 

Like the Met Opera and Ballet, the NY Philharmonic, the Met Museum, the Guggenheim, the Whitney, Brooklyn Museum, etc. 

Never mind that it was a place Edgar Allen Poe, Dylan Thomas, Walt Whitman, Bob Dylan, Edward Hopper, Andy Warhol, etc. called home.  And never mind that it was the birthplace of punk music and new wave; or that it has been considered the center of the art world since the 1911 Armory Show.

Yep.  No culture at all…

I just want to know “how” she gets the GOD messages.  Are they sent by e-mail, fax, or cel phone.  Someone this nutty should be prohibited from running for office.  Why do political candidates always
seem to be touting the GOD connection?  Just asking.

The Tea Baggers aren’t interested in things like nations or helping each other. They see us as 50 individual and sovereign states that only share a military. It’s every man, woman, and child for themselves!

Once upon a time we were the United States of America. Now these asshats want us to be TeaBagastan.

Since you and I agree on Richard Dawkins, could we also agree that by extension those who quote him to support their arguments are also idiots?

I wholeheartedly agree on that premise and on your last two sentences as well.

That’s ok. I don’t understand for the life of me why righties put so much blind faith in religion and aliens.

Don’t even start a pissing contest about whose minister is more crazy, cuz the serious nutcases are on your side of the argument.

New York city is crowded? No shit Dick Tracy. Maybe that’s why your podunk little town is unknown-
nobody goes there.

Yup. Two more areas that Jesus was silent on and the OT didn’t actually cover. Good show. Nobody knows less about the Bible than a Christian…

Said the proven liar and hypocrite. Dawkins is a British subject and as such has no standing to offer criticism of any American policy or politician. Care to find some one on this side of the pond to support yet another of your ridiculous premises?

Education and faith do not have to be mutually exclusive no matter what you and Mr. Dawkins believe.

Lets just call that comment of yours a waste of time. No one cares who the hell you are voting for in an election a year and a half from now.

You prefer places with gun ranges on every corner with lots of truck stop “restaurants”? That’s your culture redneck?

What can he say, she’s gotta a cutting edge comedic sensibility

well, I bet they are not joking about the loved one they just lost!

AND, if it is “God’s Message”, who on earth get’s to decide that it is?

Actually he doesn’t say “America’s actions will get America judged”. He says the Governments treatment of the Black community is why America should be damned – there is HUGE difference in your interpretation. Obviously this is a preacher that doesn’t preach forgiveness, love or redemption but condemnation and reprisal. “Pastor?” not really just another politician with a pulpit and an agenda to turn black against white.

Sure sweetpea, as soon as you point out where I mentioned Christ anywhere in my original post. Secondly, what would it matter to you at all??? Really?

But, would the word of god matter to you anyway??? For here we have:

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God.
He said to His people Israel, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind: it is abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them” (Leviticus 20:13).
In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin,
a sexual perversion. The Christian can neither alter God’s viewpoint
nor depart from it.

In the Bible sodomy is a synonym for homosexuality.
God spoke plainly on the matter when He said, “There shall be no whore
of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel” (Deuteronomy 23:17).
The whore and the sodomite are in the same category. A sodomite was not
an inhabitant of Sodom nor a descendant of an inhabitant of Sodom, but a
man who had given himself to homosexuality, the perverted and unnatural
vice for which Sodom was known. Let us look at the passages in
question:

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even
the men of Sodom, compassed the house around, both old and young, all
the people from every quarter:

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where
are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us,
that we may know them.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not
known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to
them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for
therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (Genesis 19:4-8)

The Hebrew word for “know” in verse 5 is yada`, a sexual term. It is used frequently to denote sexual intercourse (Genesis 4:1, 17, 25; Matthew 1:24, 25). The message in the context of Genesis 19
is clear. Lot pled with the men to “do not so wickedly.” Homosexuality
is wickedness and must be recognized as such else there is no hope for
the homosexual who is asking for help to be extricated from his
perverted way of life.

But please, would it matter if Christ appeared before your very eyes to speak out against homosexuality? My guess is no. So WHAT’S THE POINT, AGAIN?

I think a bigger joke about Bachmann might be how many people were in the “room” where she tried out her joke. 6- more? 8- getting crowded in the room more? Show me the “room”.

So to her gawd, only natural scientific things are gawds way of punishing the east coast for going teabagger. She went to a school of religious indoctrination where science was replaced with the bible. The same thing she wants, polar barbie, insanitorium, pray for rain Perry, and other demented christofascist want to make the bible the source of our laws replacing the constitution.
I dont want any organized religion, Buddist, Morman, Jewish, Southern Baptist using gawd as the reference source for the government.

We on the left just don’t get the joke.  We think that calling every natural disaster a “sign from god” is so ridiculous that that has to be the joke.  Not so.

It isn’t really a joke when such crap perfectly follows your actual and
oft-stated beliefs.  And the joke isn’t about god, the earthquake or the
hurricane,  it’s about stupid politicians who don’t listen to obvious warnings from god!  The belief Bachmann promotes takes every natural disaster as “a SIGN.”  To her followers, that’s no joke!  Clueless politicians are.

Weren’t the ministers black? I don’t think you have to over analyze repugnants- they’re hateful, racist, greedy, un-american losers.

Weren’t the ministers black? I don’t think you have to over analyze repugnants- they’re hateful, racist, greedy, un-american losers.

And, just for giggles, did you support the coward (drunk) Kennedy??? Or the adulterer Clinton??? Or the covetous, 0bama? Because we have this:

 The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares
that homosexuality “shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9; 10).
Now Paul does not single out the homosexual as a special offender. He
includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons,
drunkards, revilers and extortioners.

Because I think you’d support the people who commit ANY sin under God, or shunned by Christ, as long as they support your liberal polices of socialism. Right? So, what is your point, genius?

And, just for giggles, did you support the coward (drunk) Kennedy??? Or the adulterer Clinton??? Or the covetous, 0bama? Because we have this:

 The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares
that homosexuality “shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9; 10).
Now Paul does not single out the homosexual as a special offender. He
includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons,
drunkards, revilers and extortioners.

Because I think you’d support the people who commit ANY sin under God, or shunned by Christ, as long as they support your liberal polices of socialism. Right? So, what is your point, genius?

God is not too taken with homosexuality?- another freakin doofus who think it’s a choice? Why did God
make so many stupid Republicans? 

Is Cashill still convinced Obama didn’t write his book(s).

He’s a moron and, although his red pen proves little, it does show how petty the opposition is

You aren’t an appointed representative, but a s dunderhead of epic proportions you are representative of a movement

Says Timmy:

Well, God doesn’t exist, so I’m not too concerned

Well, color me surprised! You confessed the entire point of my post, and whined all the way didn’t you?

When Reagan let the evanglists into the Republican tent he made a mistake, and he knew it, as their demands started influence politics in our government. But it started before him with LBJ when he gave them tax rightoffs for their silence on the civil rights issues the plaged our country. The southn evangilists are racists, and still are to this day, but will deny it, as they illiminate workers rights, and lower wages. As anyone can see from Perry’s religious rehtoric and politcs, they blow the dog whistle and those in the churchs and south all know what’s being said. Sinclair Lewis: When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

The hell of it is, IT ACTUALLY WAS A JOKE!

To Bachmann and her followers, the fact that every natural disaster is a sign from god that demonstrates whatever point they are making is no joking matter but concrete reality.  Her followers understood that she wasn’t making light of god, the earthquake, or the hurricane, but that she WAS ridiculing “clueless politicians” who just don’t get the message!

Well, if Michelle worked for AFLAC too and they were needlessly worried about their image, they could fire her too.  If, one the other hand, she is a public figure and you choose not to vote for her for making a joke, well, that’s your choice.  Wouldn’t rise higher than number 876,923 for me not to vote for her, but, if you want to hang your hat on that, that’s your choice.

Gotfried’s far funnier and far more de classe joke was uttered a mere two weeks after 9/11 when he noted at the Friar’s Club roast of Hugh Hefner that he had a plane to catch after the roast, but “it had a stopever at the Empire State building.”  Even the pros booed him for that, although when I read the story several weeks later, I laughed at the inappropriateness of it all.

Comedy is a matter of taste

good god, you are a troglodyte. 

What offends you the most about Broadway and publishing and the TV’s and movies?  Lemme guess, the unions control it all

1% of teacher…..so 99% do their jobs.  Seems like a good ratio to me and higher than the people commenting here on a workday

Murtha was a marine too. And a disgrace. And he belonged to your party.

Where does Bachmann say that America is being judged?

Once again, Wright embellished thusly: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a
three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America.Naw, naw,
naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America!That’s in the Bible. (it is???? Where????)For
killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.”

Who gives a damn where he got his inspiration to condemn white people and America???

No, they’re not and asserting it doesn’t make it so.

Having said that, I don’t particularly care to have politicians publicly
mixing religion with politics. But I would never attack them for their
religious beliefs.

It depends on what you call an attack. I don’t think religious beliefs are off limits for examination, especially if the candidate makes them a centerpiece and uses them to get votes. Bachman’s own words are disturbing and so are Perry’s. It’s a lot more than simply believing in God.

Christian Bible verses show that a fetus in the womb is a living baby, and that murder is a sin.I know it’s hard to follow the logic, but, geez.

Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the
same one form us both within our mothers? (Job 31:15).

Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even
at my mother’s breast. From birth I was cast upon you; from my
mother’s womb you have been my God (Psalm 22:9-10).

For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my
mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully
made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not
hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven
together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of
them came to be (Psalm 139:13-16).

This is what the LORD says—he who made you, who formed you in
the womb, and who will help you…(Isaiah 44:2).

Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all you who remain of the house
of Israel, you whom I have upheld since you were conceived, and
have carried since your birth. Even to your old age and gray hairs I am
he, I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you;
I will sustain you and I will rescue you (Isaiah 46:3-4).

And now the LORD says—he who formed me in the womb to be
his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself,
for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my
strength (Isaiah 49:5).

The word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Before I formed
you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:4-5).

When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her
womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud
voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is
the child you will bear! As soon as the sound of your greeting
reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy” (Luke
1:41-42, 44).You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13).

You are an idiot. The aspect of gawd and a person and their belief is between gawd and that person. Not everyone lives in a state of fear and guilt. The gubermint is separate from religion and the two should not be intertwined. I know you think the government we have now should be replaced by some Theocratic Christofascist Dominist, but the MAJORITY of citizens in this country want the constitution as our base for laws NOT THE BIBLE or some other book of fairy tales. I dont want no stinking Buddist, Morman, Muslim, Hebrew, or extremist, right wing, neo christofascist, putting their gawd in charge of America. Yes, I dont like Obama and what he has done for liberals, but compared to crazy eyes, polar barbie or any teabagger, he IS a god.

You are an idiot. The aspect of gawd and a person and their belief is between gawd and that person. Not everyone lives in a state of fear and guilt. The gubermint is separate from religion and the two should not be intertwined. I know you think the government we have now should be replaced by some Theocratic Christofascist Dominist, but the MAJORITY of citizens in this country want the constitution as our base for laws NOT THE BIBLE or some other book of fairy tales. I dont want no stinking Buddist, Morman, Muslim, Hebrew, or extremist, right wing, neo christofascist, putting their gawd in charge of America. Yes, I dont like Obama and what he has done for liberals, but compared to crazy eyes, polar barbie or any teabagger, he IS a god.

No word about abortion in the bible???

You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13).As the following
Scriptures show, Christians (or members of other religions) do not need
to wonder what God thinks about unborn children or whether he considers
a fetus a child.

Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the
same one form us both within our mothers? (Job 31:15).

Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even
at my mother’s breast. From birth I was cast upon you; from my
mother’s womb you have been my God (Psalm 22:9-10).

For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my
mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully
made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not
hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven
together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of
them came to be (Psalm 139:13-16).

This is what the LORD says—he who made you, who formed you in
the womb, and who will help you…(Isaiah 44:2).

Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all you who remain of the house
of Israel, you whom I have upheld since you were conceived, and
have carried since your birth. Even to your old age and gray hairs I am
he, I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you;
I will sustain you and I will rescue you (Isaiah 46:3-4).

And now the LORD says—he who formed me in the womb to be
his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself,
for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my
strength (Isaiah 49:5).

The word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Before I formed
you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:4-5).

When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her
womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud
voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is
the child you will bear! As soon as the sound of your greeting
reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy” (Luke
1:41-42, 44). 
Wow, nowhere in the bible??? Really??? The reality is that it wouldn’t matter to you anyway. LOL.

That’s kinda the point. Anyone can interpret his intent and does. There are dozens of different interpretations of the Bible and opinions about what God thinks, feels and wants. That’s why it’s bothersome and inappropriate for any candidate to be pushing their particular one , rather than something grounded in solid facts and sounds reasoning.

That’s kinda the point. Anyone can interpret his intent and does. There are dozens of different interpretations of the Bible and opinions about what God thinks, feels and wants. That’s why it’s bothersome and inappropriate for any candidate to be pushing their particular one , rather than something grounded in solid facts and sounds reasoning.

Type your reply…

You have me on that one, as far as this not being the straw that broke the camels back for me. To me this is just a symptom in a larger issue. That said, I still hold politicians to a higher standard than a comedian, even the one’s who have already lost my respect.

So you are implying that god would be down with the killing of the
unborn??? Please cite any passage that would give you such an idea.
.

Well we could look at all the ones about judgment such as,
John 8:15

You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Romans 14:13

Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.
and my fav;
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.   
Perhaps you can point to the passage that tells us clearly when the spirit actually enters the body and when abortion, intentional or accidental is killing.

The point being that, it’s correct for you to make that judgment call for yourself, and very questionable for you to insist on making it for others, and downright silly for anyone to insist they know what God thinks about it.

It seems to me that any minster or elected official suggesting that natural disasters are sent by God as a warning to the US , are pretty much saying what Rev Wright suggested.

True Dat.

The GOP sought out the religious right for years in spite of their hateful rhetoric. When they decided to go after through Wright they opened the door for their own associations to be examined. Now, rather than the words coming from a candidates former pastor , we hear them from the candidates themselves.

and those taxes go out to support which states?  

hello….it’s talking about rape and the importance of protecting the stranger that is under your roof.  the importance of hospitality.  Homersexyality don’t equal all the vile thangs yur little mine kin devise.

We Buddhists don’t believe in a God, per se, but a lot of destructive people wouldn’t dig the karma concept-thingy we do.

and the same one who is talking to Perry. What the hell is in whiskey in Texas?

Who?

I would attack any pol seeking the presidency if she/he (Bachmann/Perry) were dominionist, and I plan to if either get the nomination.

We just had a religunut, Texan president, and he did untold damage to the economy that we’re still struggling to get over. Perry is Bush without the brains, such as they were.

I dont understand why it would even matter if abortion is in the Bible. Since when does your religion dictate the legality of certain issues in this country? last time I checked we have a clear stance of seperation of church and state and a pretty well worded Declaratory Clause in the BIll of Rights. 

This is a stupid thread.
Michelle Bachmann expressed her opinion and that’s all.
Q: Why do Demturds always have to ridicule other’s opinions and/or faith?
A: Because they have NOTHING to believe in
It’s envy.
 

Funny how Bachmann thinks this was God’s message.

I thought God was telling my wife that I didn’t need to clean out the garage last weekend.

I pointed to you an entire essay on how God judges nations.  to be honest, the only reason I remember it is because wright went on Bill Moyers show and talked about the sermon and how he was directing the congregation toward the Old Testament scriptures about God judging nations.

Surfergirl, even if I were to accept your reasoning, and I do not, shouldn’t America be judged on her treatment of African Americans or is all that just water under the bridge to you?

Her “opinion” is STUPID and THOUGHTLESS

Yeah, God really TERRORIZED the east coast, destroyed tons of property, and killed people because the US isnt governed by TEA BAG TRAITORS

“opinion” doesnt get any stupider

PAT ROBERTSON PART 2

aww…aren’t you cute?! 

If the other’s opinions and faiths were so stupid, racist, proven false, or just damn insensitive, we might be kinder.

But MB has a long history of JesusFreak creds to her name.  And a big, flaming gay husband. 

Her opinion was tasteless and insensitive.

Now, I could be tasteless and say that RedStaters deserve these “messages from God” since those states tend to have more disasters than Blue States.  But that’s a BS reason. 

But if dumbsh*ts want to envoke God, they may want to start asking why he hurts them more than the atheists in America. 
Why does he send hurricanes to the Southern sea board?
Tornadoes to the midwest?
Flooding along rivers?
Heatwaves?
Priests/Bishops/Pastors raping your children?

((atheist here, so I attribute none to God and everything to nature))

STILL WAITING ON THE PUNCHLINE

To Lt. culture is the place where first cousins meet and fall in love. Git’r done!

You come across as self declared “born again” ndanielson,but Bachman may tell you to drink some kool-aid soon.

You come across as self declared “born again” ndanielson,but Bachman may tell you to drink some kool-aid soon.

is that a closet door I hear swinging in  your background, ND?

because you sure are fired up over it.  you having a Marcus Bachmann problem? 

oh, if you only knew the history of the text you revere.  of how many pagan precursors are found within the OT.  of how much the NT is a regurgitation of the OT.  of how the 4 witnesses don’t even agree with each other.  and who does and who doesn’t with Mark.  about the “Q” text.

think genesis is a new story?  virgin birth?  flooding (noah)? 

Finally, if Christ were to appear here/now, you’d be SOL.  You do not represent his flock or teachings and he would remind you of how to treat others and that you haven’t been on the path of righteousness in your entire life.  And, he’d be pissed about the false idols (GBeck, RLimbaugh, FNC, etc.) that you worship. 

He’d pretty much be a hippie liberal that you’d be demanding “cut his hair” and “shave”.  You’d be calling him “crazy” and “too PC”. 

And he’d be impressed at how much more of his teachings atheists are versed in and actually put into practice versus those who claim to be his followers.

is that a closet door I hear swinging in  your background, ND?

because you sure are fired up over it.  you having a Marcus Bachmann problem? 

oh, if you only knew the history of the text you revere.  of how many pagan precursors are found within the OT.  of how much the NT is a regurgitation of the OT.  of how the 4 witnesses don’t even agree with each other.  and who does and who doesn’t with Mark.  about the “Q” text.

think genesis is a new story?  virgin birth?  flooding (noah)? 

Finally, if Christ were to appear here/now, you’d be SOL.  You do not represent his flock or teachings and he would remind you of how to treat others and that you haven’t been on the path of righteousness in your entire life.  And, he’d be pissed about the false idols (GBeck, RLimbaugh, FNC, etc.) that you worship. 

He’d pretty much be a hippie liberal that you’d be demanding “cut his hair” and “shave”.  You’d be calling him “crazy” and “too PC”. 

And he’d be impressed at how much more of his teachings atheists are versed in and actually put into practice versus those who claim to be his followers.

I would like verification that God hurts Christians more that Atheists…or is that just something you heard Keith Olbermann say?
I don’t question why God does things….but I DO wonder why He wastes life on critters who slander Him.
The last sentence is your opinion….and you are entitled to it….Just as Bachmann is (I know that is a hard concept for a libtard to grasp).

 BTW…..You’re comment “((atheist here, so I attribute none to God and everything to nature))” is an admission that God IS.
Atheist my ASS!!

No, I’ll still argue with you about your lack of Biblical knowledge, since, you know, you don’t the Torah from a hole in the ground.  Just because I don’t believe in your sky fairy, doesn’t mean I haven’t read the book (many, many times in a childhood filled with people like you and Michelle)

You call those Christian, when they appear in the Old Testament….weird.

I would like to thank you for saying that! (Richard Dawkins is an idiot.)

You will attack anything that appears to be weak, stricken, or impaired with not being born male. This is well documented, so I find none of the above remarks from you a surprise. You are one of those New Yorkers who think everyone not from New York is a lesser being. Need I remind you that Bush was elected president two terms and you couldn’t even get on the ballot in Ithaca? Why do you suppose that was? Were you running as a Republican? I’m sure the party saw you for what you are, (a certifiable nut-job), and basically gave you the shoe. That was in 1992 and what happened since then? Still crazy after all these years, that’s what.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksa4VjKE3RY

Please, please, please, Bachmann supporters, please tell me that these utterly nutbag remarks from your candidate now render her unelectable.

Surely you can’t seriously support such derangement. Surely you know that she would be annihilated in the general election with this self-caught albatross stapled to her chest. Surely any candidate who says that God is sending small government messages to politicians via hurricane and earthquake is just too crazy to be taken seriously.

Alternatively, since I’m convinced that America needs Obama to win re-election, don’t relegate her to the sidelines, but promote her to the front of the pack and make her your eventual nominee. Then maybe the weight of her sodden coattails will drag down enough equally loony congressional candidates, and we can get a functioning House and Senate out of the deal.

I would suggest you don’t move to NYC Good Lt.

You have been reading too much Lyndon LaRouche conspiracy theories….ROFLMAO!!!

Well…..That’s ONE douche bag’s opinion.
Michelle Bachmann Part 1

Surely you can’t seriously support such derangement.

They can and will.  Don’t you know, your disdain of her only makes them love her more.  Conservatives long ago gave up on science, research, facts, figures, and learning.  All they know is who says it and what team that person plays for.  If he/she angers liberals, then he/she must be good.

It’s all they know

Michele is a tard.  She needs to get a show on CBN.

Jesus freaks are so much fun!!

You should head over to the yahoo politics boards, those jesus freaks could use a dose of reality

Your post kicks a@@!!! I am a recovering catholic and your post makes so much sense. Thank you!!

They never fire teachers. Not 700  or not 1 will get fired. Every year, sometimes twice a year the fish wraps headline 500 teachers to be fired. 1500 got pink slips ! Oh my ! Never happens.
They’re hiding the real crime i n NYC you jacka**es. People are fleeing NYC in droves. You’ll be left with illegals paying the taxes as the city falls..

Ta-DAAAAAAAA! This is where he is handed his hat and shown the door… as he slinks off with his tail tucked between his legs.

Wanna quote some Bible NDanielson?  OK.. here goes:

“Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah.  Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.”  (Genesis 22:1-18) Hmmm.. so God thinks every life is precious, but he wants Isaac to kill his only son?

“Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.” (Exodus 13:2) Exactly what do you think God is talking about when it comes to “consecrating”?  He wants it offered up to him on a pyre!

“Nevertheless no devoted offering that a man may devote to the Lord of all that he has, both man and beast, or the field of his possession, shall be sold or redeemed; every devoted offering is most holy to the Lord. No person under the ban, who may become doomed to destruction among men, shall be redeemed, but shall surely be put to death.” (Leviticus 27:28-29) Again.. God is saying kill babies and animals in his name.

“At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites.  And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph.  I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”  (Judges
11:29-40 NLT)  Jephthah is gonna kill the first person coming out of his house and burn that person in God’s name.

I could go on and on.. but I think you’ll understand.. God loves killing, sacrificing (of both animals and humans), and burning.  Oh.. but you’ll say these were all books of the Old Testament.. and Jesus changed all that.. well read on Christian and become enlightened:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For
verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever
therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach
men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but
whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the
kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19 KJV)What you and other Christians don’t understand, is that Jesus was a Jew, considered himself a Jew.. and considered himself to be the king of the Jews as well!  He is also believed to have come from a very strict sect of Judaism as well.  So all you people that call yourselves Christians had better get to sacrificing babies and animals!  So quit your whining about abortions.. they are simply fulfilling sacrifices to your bloodthirsty God.  Oh and not only are you to perform ritual animal and human sacrifices to him, you’re not to eat anything but kosher foods and go to worship on Saturdays.. not Sundays.. as I believe that Sunday is the 1st day of the week, and the 7th day.. the day of rest, is Saturday!  Jesus says so.. these are the laws of the prophets!  Can you say that you do all this?  I think not.  So go thump your Bible somewhere else please.

There’s sane religious views, & there’s insane religious views. MB has slipped into the latter.

Actually, the population of NYC has increased 2.1% since 2000, according to the latest Census data.  So, rather than ‘leaving in droves’, they seem to be coming in at a normal, healthy pace.  

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion that they’re hiding crime statistics?  

Actually, the population of NYC has increased 2.1% since 2000, according to the latest Census data.  So, rather than ‘leaving in droves’, they seem to be coming in at a normal, healthy pace.  

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion that they’re hiding crime statistics?  

I didn’t see Josh complaining about NY’s high taxes.  Nor did I see him complain about helping pay for the welfare of Mississippi.  I did, however, see Josh state a fact that indicates hypocritical behavior on part of Republicans.  That is, Republicans are against welfare unless their state benefits from it.

It is ironic that Bachmann, a
graduate of Oral Roberts University, claims that G*d tells her what to do. Oral
Roberts claimed to have had a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to
build a hospital and medical center to discover the cure to cancer. Someone
with insight asked, why did not Jesus just tell Robert what the cure for cancer
was and save the scientific research? To both Bachmann and Perry, if G*d is
speaking to you, why do you not give us his solutions to the world, verbatim
from G*D? If neither of you can do this, it is evidence that G*d is not telling
you anything meaningful.

Like Oral Roberts, an 800 foot tall Jesus came to me and told me to never vote for Bachmann.

That’s right, and it’s important to note that in a recent study, it was found that Texas got back 97 cents for every dollar it paid in federal taxes. I’m trying to make the point to everyone that we are one nation composed of 50 states, not 50 confederates.

No, Ricky, if you could read, AND comprehend, you’d see that I could give a rat’s ass about bible verses. I am making the point that clowns like you get all hot and bothered about what is, and what isn’t in the bible, and that if the bible advances your agenda you quote it, if it stands in the way of your agenda you pretend it isn’t there.

As a business owner, if I feel that I don’t recognize gay marriage and don’t want to pay benefits for a “spouse” because of my religion that should be enough. In a free country, it would be. And if you don’t like it DON’T frequent my business. That used to be called the free market in this country. And the federal government used to have NO powers to force all the liberal crap you clowns think it has power to force. We are at a point where it is YOUR rights over MY rights. Well, some of us are tired of the one way passage of “rights” in this country. May the best team win.

Well, that’s a phenomenally dumb assertion. Just for yucks, you care to explain that remark?

Envy Bachmann’s derangement and surrender of her personhood to a mythical sky-guy who smites politicians she doesn’t like?

Naah. I don’t think so.

Priests/Bishops/Pastors raping your children?  
                                       You forgot
    part nature, part being constantly told how important you are, part catholic church not allowing Priests to marry, part some people are just  *SSHOLES. Part that God has to do with it zero and I was born and raised Catholic.

no.  actually i sincerely believe there is no God/Gods and that it is simply comfort for some.  i believe that we came to be by a cosmic accident that began 13.5 billion years ago. that man made up deities to explain what they could not. and now lots of people follow those comfort “foods” known as religion.

i geniunely believe there is no god.  never was.  and i don’t think that things are “signs” from a deity, unlike some want to imply that natural disasters are. 

Re your stupid post further below:

uh, obviously there would be no verification since there is no God.  just nature doing it’s thing. 

and don’t watch the Cable News talking heads and certainly don’t watch Olbermann.  haven’t for years.

Stringing together a group of unrelated to vaguely related biblical quotes proves nothing.

If you believe that the Bible is historical fact, the fact is that god commanded the murder of thousands of babies below the age of two, their mothers, all pregnant women and their fetuses and every male in several locations.  Everybody in town, that is, and several times – except for the female virgins above the age of two.

On one occasion, the Israelites scored 100,000  virgin slave girls.  Now I don’t believe it, but you say you do.  How big a city would it take to provide 100,000 virgins?

God had no problem at all with murder, infanticide, or the killing of fetuses.

Move to Somalia or get along.  As long as we have a constitution, people have rights – whether you like it or not.

First you confirm God’s existence….and then you deny it. Just like a liberal.
Ann Coulter is right….Libtards have a mob mentality.
Your handle speaks volumes….mooch…..welfare baby.

You liberally evaded answering:
“I would like verification that God hurts Christians more that Atheists…”

No where in the constitution is it mentioned “seperation of church and state”.  This country was born on the Christian faith over 225 years ago. Probably the word abortion wasn’t used then except to kill the unborn. The seperation thing was brought about by the Rowe vs. Wade abortion trial years ago. It has stuck with people through a crafty lawyer …but those words do not exist in the constitutuion.

Hey bud, for a guy that wants to blast the Bible…you read it pretty well!!!!. Why would you bother? However; you have read it wrong. God told Issac to sacrifice his son to see if Issac actually loved God like he told him.  It was a test. God stopped him before he killed his son. God was talking about his commandments (which hang in the Supreme Court). Those that break them will be less to those that do not when the world ends.  It just all depends on how YOU want to read into what you want.  Not sure what your point really is except to just run down a Christian and the Bible.  Do you feel better???

You believe what nonsense you want and a Christian will believe what he/they want.  That’s the part of “rights” that your talking about.  Where on earth did you get the virgin slave girls story? Did you actually read that or listen to some other person?

That is why your told to be watchful and careful of false preachers.  Are you afraid to spell out GOD?

My you get upset about anyone mentioning God or the Bible.  There will be worldly disasters. We just need to be ready for our “death” day…is what it’s referring to. Be ready and know where you are going. To heaven or hell.

That’s where reading and knowing what is in the Bible gives you the insight to know.

Your choice!  I for one, would rather hear a person proclaim his belief in God than to not mention Him at all. All things that take place are not necessarily meant for today or even years from now. That is why being able to disearn what is in the Bible is very important and to be able to recognize a false prophet.

Oh , now your just picking at words just to be contentious.

Oh , now your just picking at words just to be contentious.

Oh , now your just picking at words just to be contentious.

You know, I think your Rev. Wright is a racist who doesn’t like white people. That is obvious. God would never damn America; however it is not to say he wouldn’t turn the other cheek for awhile rather than watch a bunch of  fools in this country. America is being judged by God. He gave us alot here. We are to share our wealth, knowledge, homes etc.etc. with other countries.  However, we people started wanting to take him out of the schools and commit all these abortions….have you noticed the changes taking place?

Funny, funny mad.

WTF are you ranting about…..ex-American?

Read the book.  Or don’t.  It’s almost a complete waste of time unless you want to use it to refute nutcase religious fanatics.  If you had read it, you’d know.

Hagen, he said it.  Keep reading, by the way, the guy’s a wonderful theocrat

Instead of blaming sky fairies and calling respected ministers racists, why you don’t you blame your Republican masters for dismantling the middle class and “fixing the game” so they get all the benefits.  That’s where the change is coming from. 

Only a believer would particularly want to.

Actually, lots and lots of liberals, progressives and Democrats are religious church goers.   It’s just that there are plenty of churches in this country, protestant, Catholic (not to mention Temples, Synagoges, Mosques, etc..) that are not filled with sancetmonious anti-science, anti-reality, anti-gay, anti-woman, Pro-War, Pro-Materialism, Nationalistic idiots.   Michelle Backmann, Rick Perry and the majority of the assclowns who drape their selfish, hateful backward policies in the Flag and hide them behind the Cross are some of the most unChristian people you’ll find, if you apply the true sense of the word

Just remember, Jesus was a Liberal.

Orthodox Jews do not spell his name out of respect. They, and others.

I’d hardly call my post a rant, but clearly you have different standards.

My point was that your comment  “‘I attribute none to God and everything to nature’ is an admission that God IS . . .” is both garbled and silly and I wanted to give you an opportunity to unknot your tangled thoughts.

I’ll understand if that’s too hard for you, though.

The author identifies one genuine error (subject-predicate agreement inconsistency) and a whole slew of stylistic choices with which he disagrees.

He’s also apparently innocent of the concept of the collective singular, as in “the concern of politics is the good governance of nations,” which was clearly Obama’s usage of “merits.”

So he doesn’t like Obama’s prose style in one article. Tough shit. Proves nothing except that the critic (Cashill?) has nothing substantive to say on the subject. Let ‘im write his own damn law review article.

Top Ten Reasons Why You May Be Too Obsessed With Religion

#10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

#9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that humans were created from dirt.

#8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

#7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” – including women, children, and trees.

#6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods consorting with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

#5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is about a couple of generations old.

#4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering, and yet you consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

#3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor “speaking in tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” your choice of religions to be the correct one.

#2 – You define .01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers, and consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% failure was simply the will of God.

#1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but you still call yourself a Christian.

Well said.

Those quotes (by your own citations) are drawn from multiple, disconnected books of the bible and represent truly repulsive views of right and wrong — which are conveniently (and understandably) glossed over by professional Christians when discussing their faith.

I mean, Lot sending out his daughters to be gang-raped to prevent a crowd from bothering his guests? And this is a good idea?

I’m sorry, but any religion that considers such a story to be a “moral teaching” can have no credibiity with civilized people.

Or! Civilized people can recognize that their holy book — portions of which derive from Bronze age myths — includes many passages which reflect practices and beliefs completely unacceptable to modern people. Like the condemnation of homosexuality, a prejudice whose time has come and gone.

Such people can pick and choose from the bible those teachings of value to modern people, and those which are an abomination.

“Jesus was a Liberal.”…WHY??….Because MSNBC (The libtard visual Bible)  said so.

ROFLMAO!!!…@ you morons.
Jesus believed in sharing…giving….a conservative trait…..not stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
He believed in working….not welfare.  He was a carpenter (NON-UNION) and a teacher (NON-UNION)   by trade. Hardly liberal traits.
You liberal thieves try to steal everything….but you can’t have Jesus for your whims…..You kicked Him out of your schools….your government and every place else you tread.
Actually….you are right that many libtards go to church….but going to church doesn’t make one a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes one a car.
I am not “anti” anything….I am pro-Jesus….He wouldn’t kill babies….nor would he condone his disciples packing fudge with each other.
Anti-woman???…..ROFLMAO….AGAIN.

We love women as God meant them to be…..NOT rug munchers like Rachael Maddow…but rather as wives and mothers.
The rest of your post is too ridiculous to comment on.

You keep trying to sell yourself all that.  

I’m deeply impressed by your ability to merge your “pro-Jesus” stances with all that hatred.  Funny how those two things seem to go together out on the fundamentalist side. 

Good luck.

Oh, do tell me how this new fangled “Separation of Church and State” was whipped up by a shifty lawyer during Roe v. Wade…

Let us not forget that “hipesters” AKA “hippies” and the anti-Vietnam-war movement also originated with NYC, so it’s no wonder that some hate it.
Jazz has it’s roots in NYC.  That right there would put a lot of people off, I’m sure.  :)

Yes, let’s cut off all federal funding to states that rank last in education, starting with dead last Arizona, and very near bottom Texas and also Alabama and Mississippi and see how loud the hypocrites scream for money, all the while claiming that taking tax money is somehow “socialism”.

Is that all you got….liberal dumbo?
That’s not a response….That’s a concession post.
Your hatred of Bachmann and Christians in general is not projectable onto me or anyone else.
It all belongs to YOU….small person!!

It is indeed a concession post.  After scanning a few of your fascinating posts, I concede completely to the fact that your worldview is shaped by rage, insecurity and ignorance.  You are almost certainly white, lower income and, in spite of the UM mascot as your icon, probably have some high school at best.  Right now, with the economy gone to sh*t and opportunities shrinking for everyone, but especially for older unskilled guys like you, it’s human nature to lash out irrationally.    

From your writing I’m guessing that age and economics probably put any higher education out of reach, but even at your age that might help some.  Short of that, travel out of the country also could help dislodge the dangerously narrow view and understanding of the world you have.

Good luck.

Wow! Am I lame to this and it is published somewhere? If so where? If not, it should be. So well said.

No, you were making a political statement regarding abortion and that God loves all children.  I was correcting you, with the fact that the God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam hates children.  If you don’t care about Bible versus, then why quote them?  You obviously were trying to advance your Christian agenda by stating that abortion is abhorrent to God.. when the opposite is clearly written in the Bible.

IF you were trying to make a statement to the contrary, then why didn’t you post saying that there are conflicting statements regarding God’s love of children?  But, you didn’t.. you posted specific passages.

As a business owner, you are required by law to not discriminate.  Don’t like it, get out of business.  Don’t like someone’s color.. too bad.. color has no bearing on their ability to do their job duties.  Don’t like someone’s sex.. again, someone’s sex has no bearing on their abilities.. same with sexual orientation or marriage status.  Your thinking is reminiscent of the KKK. 

And my name is not Ricky.. it’s Rick.. thank you very much.

The reason that the 10 Commandments hang in the Supreme Court is that they are examples of early laws, not because we’re supposed to live by Christian laws.

Ya, God told Isaac to kill his son as a test.. and after that ritual human sacrifice was banned for a while in Judaism, but brought back again and again and again.  And also.. just why would God ask one of his followers to kill his son???? and Isaac believed him???? Doesn’t make sense to any rational person… until you realize that the Bible was not written by God, or even inspired by God.. but by vain priests in an attempt to control the populace.

My point to NDanielson was that if you wanna quote the Bible regarding God’s love of the unborn, then you had better also include God’s wanting human sacrifices.

You guys are killing me … both sides.  I don’t know how any of you managed to spout out that many Bible verses without noticing that God commanded ABRAHAM to sacrifice his only son, ISAAC.  And yes, it was just a test of faith, and God stopped him before he carried it out.

As a business owner, you are required by law to not discriminate.  Don’t like it, get out of business.

Love it! I have gotten out of business, Rick. But don’t you clowns whine all the time that republicans send jobs to China??? You should really think about what you wish for, Rick. I sold my last business in 2007. I Laid off the last 25 full-time employees on Dec. 31 2007, and don’t have to work for you and your social justice system EVER again. Thank Nancy Pelosi and her goons for the last straw.

The custom of substituting the word “God” with G-d in English is based
on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God’s Hebrew name a
high degree of respect and reverence.

Check out my screen name. ;-)

Only about 10% of the people immigrated to the colonies for religious reasons.  The rest came for other reasons.. mostly economic.

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”  Treaty of Tripoli

Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his January
1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association calling
it a “wall of separation between church and State.” Madison had
also written that “Strongly guarded. . . is the separation between religion
and government in the Constitution of the United States.” There existed
little controversy about this interpretation from our Founding Fathers.

Thomas Jefferson also elaborated about
the history of common law in his letter to Thomas Cooper on February 10, 1814:

“For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced
by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time
by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta,
which terminates the period of the common law. . . This settlement took
place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced
till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of
the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last
about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the
common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it.”
“. . . if any one chooses to build a doctrine on any law of that period,
supposed to have been lost, it is incumbent on him to prove it to have existed,
and what were its contents. These were so far alterations of the common
law, and became themselves a part of it. But none of these adopt Christianity
as a part of the common law. If, therefore, from the settlement of the Saxons
to the introduction of Christianity among them, that system of religion
could not be a part of the common law, because they were not yet Christians,
and if, having their laws from that period to the close of the common law,
we are all able to find among them no such act of adoption, we may safely
affirm (though contradicted by all the judges and writers on earth) that
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

In the same letter, Jefferson examined how the error spread about Christianity
and common law. Jefferson realized that a misinterpretation had occurred with
a Latin term by Prisot, “ancien scripture”, in reference
to common law history. The term meant “ancient scripture” but people
had incorrectly interpreted it to mean “Holy Scripture,” thus spreading
the myth that common law came from the Bible.

Maybe you should read your real school history book Hagen, not the Christianity approved one. 

“Love
it! I have gotten out of business, Rick. But don’t you clowns whine all
the time that republicans send jobs to China??? You should really think
about what you wish for, Rick. I sold my last business in 2007. I Laid
off the last 25 full-time employees on Dec. 31 2007, and don’t have to
work for you and your social justice system EVER again. Thank Nancy
Pelosi and her goons for the last straw.”

Got out of business or forced out because not one wanted to deal with a gay bashing racist like you?  What did you do?  Get up on a pulpit and preach to your customers and employees?  LOL  

Not sure if it was published but agree, it should be.. A good place to display it big & bold would be on the government prayer wall/prayer 101 pages. Why the gov feels the need to offer lessons on praying or have anything about praying is baffling. There’s more than enough churches to take care of that.

Rick—from reading your other comment to what I wrote I gathered a bit of respect for you. I thought, “Ok we may not agree but he seems to be principaled”. From this comment I can see that you are intellectually dishonest. All of the verses you read are so horribly taken out of context. To the point where if you read a little past what you quoted, you would see that God did not actually make him Abraham sacrifice Isaac. Once Issac was about to be sacrificed, God stopped him and told him it was only a test of Abrahams faith. So God stopped him. Whether you believe the story or not is irrelevant here. Whats relevant is that you have been caught in a lie and therefore rendered every thing you say from here on out questionable. Your integrity is broken within this community now. I am going to expose several lies you stated in the previous comment.
Here is what you quoted:
“Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and
go to the land of Moriah.  Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on
one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.”  (Genesis 22:1-18)
Hmmm.. so God thinks every life is precious, but he wants Isaac to kill
his only son?”

Now if you only go a few more verses down you would read: “12 “Do not lay a hand on
the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear
God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”  13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14
So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide. And to this day it
is said, “On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.”(gen 22:12,13)

Ok so there is one lie that exposes your fraud. Now for the next. 
you wrote: “Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites,
both man and beast, for it belongs to me.” (Exodus 13:2) Exactly what
do you think God is talking about when it comes to “consecrating”?  He
wants it offered up to him on a pyre!
If you would read later on you would see that he wanted the firstborn beast to be sacrificed and the firstborn Son’s to be “redeemed”. If you look at the Hebrew word used: Sanctify unto me all the first-born – To sanctify, קדש kadash,
signifies to consecrate, separate, and set apart a thing or person from
all secular purposes to some religious use.
Again you are found a fraud and have been caught in a lie. Your next verses from Leviticus follow the same agenda. 

Now on to the Jesus quote. You said, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19 KJV)” Then you went on to rant about how I, as a Christian, dont understand Jesus was from a strict sect Judaism. You are so corrupted in your mind and blinded by your own arrogance that its sickening. I don’t know who filled your mind with this propaganda, I really dont. What makes you think you know so much about Jesus? You know what you’ve read on various websites that were written by people with agendas. Its very obvious. If you knew the historical and Biblical context of what Jesus was saying about “fulfilling the law” then you would not have made such a fool out of yourself here. The “Law” is the Old Testament. Jesus saying he was fulfilling the law meant two things. It meant that he fulfilled ALL OF THE PROPHECIES that were foretold about him in the Old Testament. It also meant that the sacrifices of animals as atonement for sins was no longer required. It was no longer required because Jesus fulfilled the law. He was the ultimate sacrifice. If we were supposed to still be sacrificing animals then what would have been the point of Jesus dying? Here are scriptures to back what I am saying: Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4
in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met
in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the
Spirit.

Also read Hebrews chapter 10.

So next time you want to take a bunch a scriptures out of context to try and make a convoluted argument to make people think you are smart and know what you are talking about, you should make sure I cant read your statement first. Because I every time I see you say anything I am going to expose you over and over again. You may be able to trick your drug addicted friends into believing your nonsense but dont bring that garbage around here. This isnt the first time I’ve set you straight and it probably wont be the last. You fraud.

Please provide Bible verse quotes for the above information so I can destroy you on the same grounds I destroyed your friend Rick Shoaf whose comment is right above yours. Please do so quickly because I have to go to work. Before I go I would like to show everyone on mediaite why you too are a fraud, just like your friend, Rick Shoaf.