Who is Glenn Beck?

 See this is a good article on Beck. He loooooves to read into what other people say and to discover hidden meanings behind their words. But don’t read into my words Beck says ill tell you what I actually meant later. Only the leftist in his mind promote hate, no one on the right could ever possibly do that.

beck does it to the left and the left does it to beck………….so is it right or wrong?

So sick of this asshole, why not just apologize? It was a stupid thing to say.

 I think this is why people are just sick of Beck and his crap.Even Fox for all the bile Fox tolerates at it’s network had to toss Beck.At this rate Beck will be of the radio any time soon and make America a better place. 

Why are Beck’s advertisers permitted to purchase airtime from Beck without severe harassment and hamstringing, as is in our first amendment right to engage in?

Conservaloons cause these messes(Timmy McVeigh anyone?) then other conservaloons pontificate about the lovely shit they are now wallowing in, like ravenous, wild eyed pigs. They don’t make cages strong enough for grotesque animals like Glenn Beck and Mr. Anders “Lets start a Teabagger party in Norway to stop cultural Marxism” Breivik. Conservatives and Fundamentalist Muslims are more alike that their little challenged lizard brains will ever let them know, they are worthless people. Hit them where it hurts and Lets Take Our Damn Planet Back from these unwashed monsters.

Humanity crushed the Neanderthals in Europe when we rose out of Africa, and we will do it again to these brutes as well, their days of braying madness will some come to a close as the world unites to give them a collective kick in their asses so that we may all once again move forward with making progress in this world, our world, Mother Earth and the spirit of Gaia embodied within.

Beck calling for “logical conversation” is like Nancy Grace asking for impartial juries. Sounds good in theory, but he’s poisoned the national well so many times with his trumped up conspiracy theories that he has zero credibility.

 Hmmmm interesting point. What would be right would be if Glenn and his little fan club there would look into both sides in a fair manner. Not make excuses for his or his right wing buddies statements, while at the same time dissecting everything anyone on the left says and declaring that what they say, and only what they say is bad.

I understand Beck’s frustration with having one small piece of what he
said taken out of context. It happens to him all the time.

But hey, you’re just doing your job, right?

However, he
should be able to see the problem with what he said yesterday.

So, political parties (especially European ones) running youth camps doesn’t strike you as kinda creepy?

I can’t think of any sort of logical conversation that comes about after likening victims of a tragedy to the Hitler Youth.

Even Hitler shouldn’t be compared to Hitler.   

Fact: He is the guy that the thread is about educated liberal. Now we understand why you post idiotic stuff in your post now. We know who Perry is; http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/26/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-campaign-approach-is-hitting-all-the-right-notes/
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/26/rick-perry%E2%80%99s-campaign-approach-is-hitting-all-the-right-notes/

I think you need to get your brain checked boy, when in the hell has anyone done an equivalent action on the left, and what equivalent institutions exist on the left to do such a thing?

You conservatives pull so much shit out of your asses that you have no choice but to try and say others do the same garbage that you do, to justify the behavior of the people you idolize, and it is freaking sickening. All of the time when a Conservaloon is accusing a liberal of taking an inch here or there, it is to distract from the mile they have gone off into. Sickening behavior and it does nothing to address the original issue, namely:

THAT YOU SHOULDN’T COMPARE MURDERED CHILDREN TO FREAKING HILTER YOUTH, can you understand that or is your brain too cooked from Glenn Beck’s idiot diatribes to understand that you don’t speak ill of dead Children like that? Conservatives are people who have given up all legitimate claims to humanity and have chosen to act like wild animals for short term benefits and feel-goodism.

Seriously what does it take for you people to stop acting so vile and acting like this is nothing. Maybe Glenn Beck just ended his career, good riddance to bad rubbish is the obvious phrase here.

Hit them where it hurts and Lets Take Our Damn Planet Back from these unwashed monsters.

Wait, who sounds like Anders Breivik? Oh, look! It’s you.

Yeah, it’s not like Beck’s 9/12 Grifters…er…Freedumb Lovers don’t have their own indoctrin….er…summer camps!

Let’s have a logical conversation about how much better off the world would be without Glenn Beck in it.  Ready….go!

I think the Tea Party is kind of like the Nazi’s, that’s creepy.

Some totally irrelevant guy that nobody ever talks about and that Mediaite is definitely not obsessed with.

Another day another Beck Nazi reference.  

Yeah, they’re totally the government too, so it’s exactly the same thing!

What camps are these now? (Hint: If it’s held in a church and you go home everyday, it isn’t a camp.)

Jon concluded: “Yes, Beck can say these things and have what he views as a logical conversation, but should he?”

Very nice comment.

Maybe it’s the left who should apologize for hating him so much that they can’t even see when he’s making a good point.  Liberals are pathetic. He’s right and you can’t stand it!

 Ahhhh justfogotthefax how you can condemn anyone for positing idiotic stuff is beyond me. On the other hand you are an expert in posting idiotic so I bow to your expertise.

Jews too, amirite Mark?

Let’s have a conversation about how much liberals HATE free speech unless you are agreeing with them.  That’s a convo worth having. 

What a stupid asinine reply from an equally asinine person.

So I guess you are admitting the Tea Party is like Breivik when they say they want their country back and to stop Marxism? Isn’t what Breivik and the TeaBagger Potty wants one in the same?

Or is that just some stupid accusation you are flinging without the slightest intention of applying such a standard to yourself, like an ape slinging shit. I guess the left/right comparisons and equivalencies are only when it suits the ignoramus arguments made by bagger crazies. These people should not be taken seriously, they seem to be mentally defective.

 Pablo first off why would you care if Norway has political summer camps for young people. Its their country they can do what they want. And to make comments like that is creepy, what do you think the young republicans and young democrats on college campuses across the country do? Do you not think they have some financial backing from their respective parties? Do you not think that they don’t have gatherings to debate and talk about their views?

‘Cause it’s a bittersweet symphony this life

Trying to make ends meet, you’re a slave to the money then you die

I’ll take you down the only road I’ve ever been down 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5u6BX1xq14

list of left……odonnell, schultz, matthews, hartmann, bill press, list of right…… beck, hannity, rush, savage, levin……..and if you could see past your hate, it was a political camp…….but no i did not like the hilter youth reference

 Exactly Michelle I agree conservative whack jobs should be able to say any damn thing they want and encourage violence and bigotry towards people who they do not like on a regular basis.

Beck’s Ward Churchill moment…

Not to mention that Rauf seemed to echo Beck’s very sentiment on the matter of 911…

BECK: I wasn’t paying attention before 9/11. I didn’t know what the heck was going on in the world. Now I’m paying attention. When people said they hate us. Did we deserve 9/11? No. But were we minding our business? No. Were we in bed with dictators and abandoning our values and principles? Yes. That causes problems!

Who exactly defended murder?

What’s funny is that, the second a liberal dares to call a conservative out on some crap they’ve said, they suddenly HATE FREE SPEECH. I bet the KKK says that too, just sayin’ 

I don’t hear the Tea Party talking about unwashed monsters. Just you.

PROVE IT

And we have free speech to call lunatics out on their crazy talk whenever they don’t think about what they’re saying.

FREE SPEECH WORKS BOTH WAYS

Why would you care if Germany has political summer camps for young people?

The voices in snowjob’s head.

The encouragement of violence comes from the left, moron.

 Now saying that cjd i agree with you to a point. Taking savage off your list cause that dude is literally all over the map, do you think that the libs are more self critical of their side, or the conservatives? Funny thing is that I think they both are about equal but the lib guys argue for their side to be more left and the conservatives side argues for their side to be more conservative! Rarely do they actually criticize any of their own sides core ideas.

Pop quiz, what do the Norway shootings and VT shootings have in common? How can the same people that say a war on drugs cannot be won because demand will find its way in say that you can put a war on guns and stop people from getting them and killing others.  All you do is create fish in barrel scenarios, and that’s before the global debt bomb really goes off. Board up or change laws real quick Europe.

Although Ill give Michael Medved some credit there he has gone after his side more radical fringes on many occasions. And Bill O when he is being logical(which happens rarely) will go after his side as well.

Glenn should be leading the line to the chambers. 

not saying who is worse, i think both sides are about the same, bullshit talking points

Yeah the left is super violent, that’s why they want more gun laws… it’s their inherent bloodthirst. Republicans want to ban violent videogames but give your kids assault rifles when they turn 13. It’s a real Mensa-class group they have over there.

example……..you are a bigot……..you are a maxist…….just bullshit

 Really Michelle have your read the turner diaries? Have you read this guys manifesto from norway. Do you know who his influences were? If you have read them do you declare that these ideas come from the left?

Right. You don’t want people mentioning Nazis, but you want to act like them. Congratulations on exposing yourself.

Maybe if I lived in 1940′s Europe, are you aware the 1900′s are over grandpa?

Not only was the comment stupid on its face.  It was also unbelievably cruel considering that Norway spent five years in WWII under the boot of Nazi Germany. 

 That is such an idiotic statement its not even worth commenting on. So you agree with Beck? That these were little nazis and deserved what they got? What the hell are you talking about? Norway is a liberal democracy, these camps are sanctioned by the govt and the people in their country.  A church in this country has to pay no taxes correct. They run camps some of which are very political all over our country. Does that not make our govt complicit in sanctioning political camps?

Hey Snowspot, I see you are ignoring my comment asking you who has defended murder.  We’re waiting. 

Fact: Who is insideguy? Look you have to admit that makes a stupid post liberal or not! You can rise now.

 Right Dave cause In Arizona where they have some of the most liberal gun laws in the nation ,thank god they were able to stop that killer . You guys have the same two or three dumb talking points its kind of pathetic.

What is the point of saying political camps are creepy? You’re implying that them being creepy means that it’s somewhat acceptable or expected? I can’t understand why that even comes into the conversation. It’s almost a way to make it like it’s OK because the crazy guy was shooting creepy people. What was creepy about them? That’s just a complete fabrication against their character, they were 16 year olds interested in making their country the best they thought they could, nothing is creepy about that unless you’re a cult who refuses to accept reason*cough* Fox Tea Party *cough*

Fact: Why act like you have morals all of a sudden Limpbaals you act like your leader complete phony!

It’s funny that most Jews in the US are liberal, amirite?

 See my point exactly no matter how dumb a post is you make an even dumber one. You do have an amazing talent.

Yes, the left should apologize for Glenn Beck saying mass murder victims were like Hitler youth. Isn’t there a rich person you should be fellating somewhere?

Fact: Tea party has a big tent promoting less government more self reliance and protecting individual freedoms but no youth indoctrination camps slop jars and the rest of you morons. No one likes wacko’s that kill children period!

and the hilter youth was making their country the best they could, its the adults teaching the kids ,not the kids themselves

adults teach kids bad things sometimes

What’s your point exactly? 

You libs know that Beck didn’t say and doesn’t think anyone deserved to be murdered.  This is why no one takes you seriously.  You’re hatred of him has rendered you incapable of rational thought.  Take your BDS meds and go to bed. 

So basically, you are admitting that NO ONE condoned murder?  Thanks, that’s what I thought. 

Fact: Beck has liberals acting as his personal yo-yo’s and Glenn is just walking the dog with all you idiots bouncing off the walls. hahahahahahaha…………………….

Fact: People have locks on their doors but a lock only keeps the ownest man out. Bozo!

my point snowspot, well first a question…….where the kids in the hitler youth bad?

I like how you can’t address the first point because you know its true.  All the laws in the world won’t stop guns, just like all the laws in the world won’t stop drugs.  And 16 is a hell of alot better than 70 some.  Let’s see how Europe’s death rates change as demographics and economic conditions change.  They will either adopt gun rights or experience hell.

 I actually don’t know that Michelle and neither do you

Fact: Well Forrest Gump I tried to make it so even the morons like yourself don’t feel overwhelmed and as low as I put the bar I’m glad to have you as my student! Next time I will up your game from novas to amateur. How’s that for a bonus. So don’t forget to chock up on that PC and keep swinging.

 Michelle read my comments on the killer of Doctor Tiller on another post, many many people condoned his murder

To make their country better one has to go to a political camp.No one is saying anything about their character,Nobody has defended this nutcase.You just twist what people are saying.Its funny how you libs hate the Tea party but thats what they are trying to do, make their country better.You may not like their politics any more then i like the liberal agenda but I think its creepy to send kids to a political camp,their young let them grow up and choose their own path in life.

what? what is an ownest man? Once again you win the trophy for the dumbest post of the day congrats.

no really funny, because a liberal(roosevelt) sent boat loads back to europe when they were trying to escape hitler

Glenn needs to drop this issue (apologize or forget it) immediately or he will not be putting on his Israel event. As usual, Glenn’s radio show is what gets him in trouble.  

 Oh Kelc I agree and im sure most conservatives agree that they shouldn’t bring their own kids to church, because they should just wait for them not make their own minds up when they are 18.

Glenn has the balls to make that comment, but sometimes discression is the better part of valor. He should shut up or they are going to close down his Israel gig.

So you agree with Beck? That these were little nazis and deserved what they got?

Beck didn’t say that. But you did.

 Really Dave? And over the last 60 years with strict gun laws in europe and liberal gun laws in this country, who do you think has the higher murder rates? Ill give you a clue it aint Europe.

Who is defending him? I’m certainly not. I’d put that sick puppy to sleep. I said as much yesterday, directly to you. And yet here you are…oh, what’s the word…lying.

Why must you lie, snowjob?

 kinda off point but true cjdohio:)

 Radio,Tv it doesn’t matter when Glenn speaks it gets him in trouble:)

That is all about history and demographics, not gun laws. Put Sweds in a gun filled America and you won’t see higher death rates, just as you can export urban hoods to strict gun England and you won’t see lower death rates. By the way, what’s the per capita ratio of violence in traditional Republican counties as compared to Europe?

sorry, you i can talk too, snowspot, RRK, and darladoon, just like to fight

Hey Glenn, why do you promote Hitler Youth Camps?
 Tea party group offers summer camp – St. Petersburg Times

I remember Muslims ‘celebrating’ in the streets after the 9/11 attack after.
I don’t remember ANY Christians ‘celebrating’ in the streets after this attack.

 First off your theory is totally unproven and in no way can it be proved. Second off do you not think there are urban hoods in Europe? Have you ever been to Europe? I suspect you haven’t, based on that statement. Third I could try and look up the per capita ratio of violence in Republican counties as compared to Europe, but that would take a lot of time and not even sure where to start. Have you done this? And if you have I would like to see those stats because right now you are pulling stuff out of your ass, and have no clue how those stats may compare. Just a guess here after you are done with your months of research you may be surprised by you findings.

lol woah, amazing point

 Here you go Michelle and Paul G no celebrating going on here.

wake upA small sample of the hatred expressed on Twitter after the assassination of Dr Tiller: Crap, I always forgot hashtags. I’m happy Tiller’s dead. - Jennifer Waite, Selah, WashingtonUPDATE… Doctor George Tiller was aborted today in his 204th trimester – aren’t paybacks a bitch - Punchoh HAPPY DAY! Tiller the baby killer is DEAD! - Samantha Pelch George Tiller the baby killer was shot dead this morning. God bless the gunmen who hopefully won’t be caught. - readnwatchchris, Creedmor. NCwas George Tiller the baby killers brain scrambled the way he scrambled full term fetuses.. one can only hope - Brad SInfamous baby killer George Tiller gunned down at (irony) church. Why do I not feel sorry for him? Have fun at Judgment Day. - James Fiddlertiller the baby killer shot dead…wow. is it insensitive of me to say what goes around comes around? - Brad M. Negulescu Cleveland.George Tiller the Baby Killer shot dead. May he rot in Hell. - Amy StrongTiller Baby Killer was shot and killed this morning Justice has been served. - Shirl LedeuxThinking about “Tiller the baby killer” He now knows the wages of sin is death. - Dianne McDowellMay Tiller rot in Hell , infanticide is the murder of babies, he WAS a provider of death like Hitler, Bundy the list goes on…. - Dennis, A People Voip CompanyBurn in hell George Tiller - mikedanben Sparta, NJ (41.005501,-74.672)No need to pray for George Tiller. We know he went straight to hell!!!!! - Laurie D. Bailey Olive Branch, MSGood ridence to Tiller – babies will not be murdered because he is now gone. Wonder how he likes hell! - Jay Emess, Southern, NJKarma is a beautiful thing. Cheers to the hero who sent George Tiller where he belongs… straight to hell. - Matthew Kamaromg!george tiller abortion dr. was killed n his church parkn lot! hell yea! - Sarah Gulick, Wtichita, KsGeorge Tiller: Burning in Hell for the last three hours. - darthdilbert Kettering, OhHmm, I know it’s wrong, but I feel like the Late-Term Abortion Doctor George Tiller, got what was he deserved….. - Mary Keogh London EnglandBoom Boom Boom. George Tiller was served a very very late term abortion this morning. - Chad Coleman, coeur d’alene, IdA few more added 6:54 PM Pacific TimeGuy shoots a Dr. to death in Church. Me I’m willing to bet that Jesus was his co-pilot. - jeremyawhitman Tiller the Killer goes to Church and ends up in Hell - mshellisright, TulsaTiller the Baby Killer is finally dead….God took care of what needed to be done…. - Cynthia WrenchThe left-wing nutjobs don’t understand that Tiller the baby killer was not human. No human kills babies, only monsters. Good riddance - Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CAI guess Obama the Messiah can’t resurrect Tiller the baby killer. -  Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CAThe person who shot Tiller the baby killer simply excercised a man’s right to choose. - Sami Shamieh, Walnut Creek, CAthe killing of tiller the baby killer was JUSTICE, not murder. - eqbtGlad someone offed Tiller. Baby Killer. - Kat, KansasA number of these posts are tagged #tcot (top conservatives on twitter), this is apparently some new meaning of top that we’re not familiar with.The Twitter search ”George Tiller” OR #Tiller was running at about one tweet per second for the last two hours.  The overwhelming majority of tweets from both sides of the abortion issue expressed horror at the assassination of Dr Tiller.  Source: Carnal Nation (http://s.tt/113Gw)

Remember that whole conversation we had about the “Fact: You are a Looser” post? That whole thing about revealing one’s own ignorance while launching into a personal attack? You’re doing it again.  

I can vouch for that. Cj did take issue with that comment in an article yesterday.

Its your Hero who is fascinated with the Nazi. You should ask him about his Nazi fascination and desire to be one.

RRK here has a fascination also

Ok, let’s put on our thinking hats, shall well? The Hitler Youth was an organization dedicated to teach the principles of National Socialism to young innocent children. The Norwegian summer camp was organized by a political party to teach the kids the principles of socialism and why they should boycott Israel.  Now, do you see the correlation?
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

“Don’t! If we’re living in a society where we can’t say ‘X’ in the same paragraph as ‘Y’ and not be told we are comparing it – ‘We are saying they’re building gas chambers!’ – if we are living in that society, we are doomed. We are going to be living in a society of gas chambers. If you can’t have a logical conversation-”

Funny. He, simultaneously, downplays his constant comparisons to Nazi Germany while still speaking to the paranoid belief that we are in danger of becoming a society of Nazis and death camps.

thanks censure………..i do think it was in very bad taste

the killing of tiller was wrong

Project much. How is the Nazi thing working for you and your hero.

I am pulling them out of my ass just as you are denying them out of your ass. If my assumption is wrong than you are saying all people act exactly alike and only gun laws play into a country’s murder rate, a very silly stance. Actually the data is pretty accessible. The most conservative state, with very open gun laws Utah, has 1.3 murders per 100k, whereas England has 1.5.

 I know its absolutely bizarre. But I think his logical mind is constantly fighting with his illogical mind with the illogical mind coming out on top all the time. Its like the old cartoon with the angle and the devil sitting on opposite shoulders whispering in his ear. Maybe he actually hears voices that would explain a lot.

 Thanks Cjd you give me some hope:)

 Couldn’t reply to your last post for some reason. How about the other european countries compared to US states? You are comparing a country of 70 million people to a state of 4 million. Ok so the murder rate in utah is lower than england. A homogenous state with mostly mormons and white people, compared to a whole nation as diverse as england filled with multiple languages and religions and peoples of different colors. Ok now compare it to other states and while you are at it compare Japan to Utah, or compare Germany to Utah, or compare sweden to utah. And pick some other conservative states and compare them. Your research is weak, a professor would laugh and then flunk you. Why don’t you pick Arizona?

The last view Beck clips I’ve seen here seem to turn into commercials for gbtv.  He’s able to spin his fear campaign into a buy my product spiel.

It makes you question the actual purpose and intent of everything he says.

I think your hat’s on backwards.

First, the camp in Norway wasn’t targeting “young innocent children.” It was for young adults about to or already participating in the democratic process. The camp wasn’t an anti-Zionist camp, but one whose agenda included: “speeches and debate over the upcoming municipal elections in Norway, the
rival Conservative Party’s current policies, the even more conservative
Progress Party’s asylum policies and the state of Norwegian schools.” Source.

Second, a former Norwegian government official already responded to Beck’s baseless accusation of Nazi-like tendencies. “Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about.” Source. The political party that supports capital “N-S” National Socialism is aptly named the National Socialist Movement of Norway. The students at the camp were members and supporters of the Norwegian Labour Party, which is a democratic socialist political party, a philosophy normal, widely accepted and functional in Europe.

Third, whether you admit it or not, you and your ilk lessen the meaning of those lives taken on Friday every time you try to compare them to the evil was that Hilter and his enablers. These were kids who were free to congregate and participate in a democracy. The only extensions of the argument that the camp is somehow suspicious are that 1) no liberally politically minded youth should be allowed to congregate lest they be the second coming of Hitler (which is antithetical to the democratic freedom to assemble) or 2) that Breivik somehow did Norway a favor.

But Beck wouldn’t ever say either of those, nor would any reasonable conservative. That’s why there is no real conversation to be had, and that’s why this is all a contrived attempt to attack the media or progressives for identifying Breivik to be what he thought himself to be: a Christian social conservative.

TL;DR version: there is no correlation, other than the negative correlation between you and reality.

Inside guy what does going to church and going to a Labor party camp have to do with one and another?Thats apples and oranges.Most 16 year olds could careless about politics.

Well i think the left does try to indoctrination in Collages.But after collage most kids then enter the real world and move more to the right when they have to pay for big government.Churchill said something like if your 20 and not liberal you have no heart.If your 30 and liberal you have no brains.

I’ve been wondering about that Israel thing. Last I heard, there was a change of venue pending.

ROFL!

Whoever writes for Mediaite takes absurd positions.

How so? Examples in the last ten years?

I’m not familiar with a GOP anti-videogame push, but did you know this guy was obsessed with World of Warcraft?

I don’t hear Beck choosing candidates for the gas chamber. But you are.

 No I don’t Gregory why don’t you explain it to me.

Good, now you’re starting to understand the premise of my main thesis, people commit murders and America has more violent people (with or without guns and gun laws). These European countries don’t have a large segment of people coming out of hundreds of years of slavery and segregation who now have a homicide rate of 30 per 100k or an open boarder to their south letting in people without a tradition of rule of law now with a homicide rate of about 15 per 100k. The solution to this violent situation is not to disarm future victims, but to keep a people free with the right to defend themselves and their properties. Guns like drugs will find a way in, killers will find ways to kill.

 You don’t see the correlation in indoctrinating young minds in a political way as compared to a religious way? So its ok to literally brainwash kids from birth with religion in one form or the other but having them go to a camp and talk about real world issues and ways to solve problems is not? First off these kids were not that young second off you are being hypocritical. One reason there is a problem in the muslim world is that in certain areas these kids are brainwashed by religious schools who teach them nothing but the literal word of the Koran and hate of israel. This grows as they become older, and transforms itself into a political view. This is not so different in the states, with evangelical churches with the exception that thank god they can leave without being killed or tortured. Watch jesus camp its very interesting.

Lol, funny imagery.

No dave i dont understand your thesis. So now your saying that even with strict gun control laws in the states the murder rates would be higher than europe? How do you know that? I see you stated that Americans are just naturally more violent than europeans? Based on what? They killed millions in wars far more than we have, im confused. Then you say that we come from a background of slavery and that europe doesn’t have an immigration problem. They do its possibly worse than ours they have a huge problem with people coming from north africa. And these people don’t have a common culture like the people who are coming from latin america do with the USA. But they still have far lower murder rates than the USA. Also europe and in particular England has a large african american population who are decendents from slaves. They are not killing each other in near the numbers as our african americans are. Your original premise was the typical guns don’t kill people,people kill people argument. Now you are stating that americans are just naturally more violent or something like that. But your idea that americans are naturally more violent has nothing behind it except your own personal feelings. If as you say that with strict gun control laws only criminals will get guns and do harm, in theory there would be many many many more killings in europe than the usa because even if they have less criminals there would be a lot more opportunities to kill people easy.

Glenn Beck,  ……logical conversation……..HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA{inhale} HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA {oh my side hurts} HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

whew!! okay…….I’m alright now.     That was a knee slapper right there.

I don’t really want to waste many words on Beck, but I will say this, Glenn Beck is worse than Anders Breivik because he encourages the Breiviks of the world. His comments about Hitler youth camps is beyond the pale. It’s unfortunate that as Beck fades into the background his comments will become more outrageous. It’s the way of psychopaths who need constant attention and adulation. To demonstrate how awful Beck is, old evil Murdoch had to get rid of Beck because he was too dangeroous and erratic as well as not good for business. Someday you Beck fans will have to answer for your stupidity, naivete and culpability in degrading our wonderful country.

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Let’s hear it for taking words out of context to make a story where there is none. Left wing libtard propaganda to dispute and denigrate anyone who is against BO’s policies and agenda. Make someone else look bad and draw attention away from the real culprits who are destroying your lives.

So much for honest journalism and unbiased commentary.

I think the writer of this article went out of his way to try and play it down the middle. Beck said what he said. If you feel he was taken out of context, make some points to back up your claim, instead of falling back on the claim of lefty propaganda. Beck makes controversial statements to get a rise out of people, and complains that he was taken out of context when people respond in a negative way. A good number of his fellow shock jocks do the same thing.

If it is just about a law, why do you see low homicide rates in very gun liberal Utah? Why is there also a pattern of less violent crimes when areas lessen gun control in the U.S.? Why did the strictest areas of gun control D.C., Chicago, and New Jersey still see super high homicide rates? I grant you that I can’t explain why every area with more open gun laws doesn’t have lower homicides, but if your side were correct, none of the above statements could be remotely true. And why do we see a six times higher homicide rate in the African American community living under the exact same gun laws as European Americans? It is not just the laws or lack of laws that can explain these realities. It is human nature, culture, and accepted moralities, which yes I find very different here than in Europe in many communities (I would also question median age in both societies and drug laws as seen below). I’ve never thought that the American government is even close to being capable of doing what you want with no guns in America, it is laughable…it would be like one State trying to ban all guns, we are too big of a country with too many land and sea entries and too high a demand for guns. It is also a direct violation of the Constitution as plainly stated and recently interpreted by the Supreme Court, if you want to change that you must get 75% of the States to side with you. Finally, so long as there are people with guns out there, I would rather see a higher homicide rate, than for millions of families to be left defenseless. Kind of like the saying, “better for 10 guilty men to go free than one innocent man to go to jail.” I don’t think leaving people defenseless, leaves you innocent either. Yes innocent people get killed in shootouts, but those would happen anyway for reason stated above. I also think you would cut our homicide rate by 50-75% by legalizing drugs.

He just keeps digging the hole deeper.

Full context given.
Please leave the fake tears to Beck.

The encouragement of violence comes from the left, moron.

Should be changed to read: Morons think the encourage of violence comes from the left.

Your Hero is. Duh! He brought it up, not the first time if I must say.

Try to actually think for a moment.

By any definition you can think of, Muslims are right wing conservatives. They adhere to the values of the past and abhor adultery, homosexuality, and taking God’s name in vain. They demand more religion in government, and oppose a government that has powers beyond religion. Their governments are not concerned with welfare programs because charity is the duty of the individual, not the government. Muslims are staunch capitalists and their governments do not regulate businesses. I could go on, but those are only the obvious observations of a non-Muslim.

agggggg it hasn’t been letting me directly reply to your posts. Im tired but ill debate with you more on this another time however I will agree with you on one point for sure. If we legalize drugs I think you are correct the homicide rate would decline sharply. However as great of an idea as I think that is I don’t think it will ever happen with the exception of marijuana which is moving rapidly in that direction as we speak. Good night good debate!

First, the camp in Norway wasn’t targeting “young innocent children.” It
was for young adults about to or already participating in the
democratic process.

Is an 11 year old a young adult? No.

Really? Who did Beck say should be first in line for the gas chamber? We know who you want in that spot. What did Beck say about it?

BTW, Andrew Sullivan really nails it here in a piece entitled Glenn Beck’s Staggering Double Standard, in which he conveniently forgets all about the tea party indoctrination camps he supported:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/07/glenn-becks-staggering-double-standard.html

Point remains. There’s nothing wrong with the congregation of politically minded youth with similar opinions, especially if the summer camp has been organizing for more than fifty years without incident.

If you want to accuse the Labor Party of liberal Communist socialist progressive Nazi indoctrination, just do so. Both your assumptions and your lack of evidence speaks for itself, not to mention your inability to refrain from politically maligning the death of innocent victims.

Sounds like someone is losing it. What is this article about again? Its about Mad Glenn talking about the Nazi Gas chambers again.

What happened to your standards?

If this is supposed to be a defense against the critique I offered of the right wing, it is limited to the context of your comment. The point is only about making out that the right wing is equivalent in all contexts. Muslim right wing fits your Wikipedia article. However, that is not the same right wing typically referred to in the discourse of political discussions about the American right wing.

Yes, Beck mentioned gas chambers. Then you decided you wanted to fire them up and you picked who you want to die first.

See, Beck mentioned them and you decided you want to use them. Maybe you just shouldn’t listen to Beck because you’re not mentally stable enough.

I don’t listen to him,He is nuts. People like you should listen to him. I was simply commenting on the article that mentioned him. You should pick the fight up with him for constantly referencing the Nazis and their chambers.

Put it this way: A is American right wing. B is Muslim right wing. A does not = B. nor does either = C which is European right wing, right?

Yeah, you can’t say that the right wing is just the right wing. The Nazi (Europena right wing definition) ain’t the same as the American Right (Western definition) of Republicans. It actually probably fits better to describe the Tea Party… but it’s another can of worms to state the same about Muslim right wing ideas. Remember, in the article that was cited, it’s a respect for authority and a resistance to change. Not a respect of conservative authority and a resistance to change from conservative ideas.

It’s a poorly formed classification. It is victim of the auto-antonym.

Exactly what I was getting at! (Every “you” that follows is a generic third person, not the personal you.)

Neither right nor left is automatically good or bad, and there are degrees of left and right, with vast differences between the center left and the extreme left.

Since I tend toward the “left wing,” I find myself being called a socialist, a communist, etc. which simply isn’t true. The American left is not the same as the European left and even that is not the same as now defunct Communism. I am particularly upset when I see the claim that the left is hateful and all hate in American politics comes from the left.

Beck, the guy this whole thread is supposed to be about, does his best to blur that distinction, and it works too well. The only way I could hope to get my point across was to make you (generic you, not personal you) see this distinction.

Exactly what I was getting at! (Every “you” that follows is a generic third person, not the personal you.)

Neither right nor left is automatically good or bad, and there are degrees of left and right, with vast differences between the center left and the extreme left.

Since I tend toward the “left wing,” I find myself being called a socialist, a communist, etc. which simply isn’t true. The American left is not the same as the European left and even that is not the same as now defunct Communism. I am particularly upset when I see the claim that the left is hateful and all hate in American politics comes from the left.

Beck, the guy this whole thread is supposed to be about, does his best to blur that distinction, and it works too well. The only way I could hope to get my point across was to make you (generic you, not personal you) see this distinction.

Actually, it was a general comment to everyone posting to Mediaite. Getting people to think beyond “Right is good, left is bad.”

Granted.

There’s a place where people should be able to distinguish between the absolute and general.

However, conservatives get accused of such things as being part of the same party that the Nazis are without the clarification. Any reporter or commentator doing so should be called out for it.

Right now it seems to many people it has become a sin in the eyes of the left to be a conservative, aka right winger. Honest folks know this is rhetoric. A fair minded individual knows there is room for both conservative and liberal ideas in any society.

Unfortunately people tend to get committed to an ideology and cannot see how the opposing point of view offers any degree of merit.

If you are genuinely trying to help get this across the part that really counts is putting forth the idea that not all words have one meaning, and some have a contradictory meaning that inhibits clear discourse.

What is the meaning of oversight? An error or a supervisor?