Gov. Walker Has 20 Min. Conversation With Prank Caller Pretending To Be David Koch

by Jon Bershad | 1:35 pm, February 23rd, 2011

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Yesterday, Ian Murphy, the editor of the website Buffalo Beast (which is down at the moment of this writing, presumably because of traffic) called up Scott Walker, the embattled governor of Wisconsin. However, Murphy identified himself as David Koch. Walker took the bait and engaged in a 20 minute conversation about the protests, the unions, the “Democrat bastards,” and the folks on Morning Joe. Walker’s staff has since confirmed that it is him on the phone.

In the conversation, “Koch” and Walker discuss the many ways to end the crisis. One section even includes what appears to be Walker’s plan to set a bit of a trap for the missing Wisconsin Democrats:

“An interesting idea that was brought up to me by my chief of staff, we won’t do it until tomorrow, is putting out an appeal to the Democratic leader. I would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly Democrat leader, plus the other two Republican leaders—talk, not negotiate and listen to what they have to say if they will in turn—but I’ll only do it if all 14 of them will come back and sit down in the state assembly. They can recess it… the reason for that, we’re verifying it this afternoon, legally, we believe, once they’ve gone into session, they don’t physically have to be there. If they’re actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they’d have quorum because it’s turned out that way. So we’re double checking that. If you heard I was going to talk to them that’s the only reason why. We’d only do it if they came back to the capitol with all 14 of them. My sense is, hell. I’ll talk. If they want to yell at me for an hour, I’m used to that. I can deal with that. But I’m not negotiating.”

Later “Koch” talks about “planting some troublemakers” but Walker shuts it down, while admitting they’ve “thought about it.”

Most interesting for us, perhaps, is Walker’s description his time on MSNBC:

“WALKER: Sooner or later the media stops finding it interesting.

“KOCH”: Well, not the liberal bastards on MSNBC.

WALKER: Oh yeah, but who watches that? I went on Morning Joe this morning. I like it because I just like being combative with those guys, but, uh. You know they’re off the deep end.

“KOCH”: Joe’s a good guy. He’s one of us.

WALKER: Yeah, he’s all right. He was fair to me and then the rest of them are out there. Although, I had fun. They had Schumer over from New York on ripping me and then they had this little clip of a state Senator hiding out and ripping me and it was almost too easy.

…

“KOCH”: Beautiful. Beautiful. You gotta love that Mika Brzezinski.

Walker: Oh yeah.

“KOCH”: She’s a real piece of ass.”

This is the statement released by Walker’s spokesperson:

“The Governor takes many calls everyday. Throughout this call the Governor maintained his appreciation for and commitment to civil discourse. He continued to say that the budget repair bill is about the budget. The phone call shows that the Governor says the same thing in private as he does in public and the lengths that others will go to disrupt the civil debate Wisconsin is having.”

You can listen to Buffalo Beast’s recordings of the calls below. It’s been split into two parts.

David Koch, Ian Murphy, joe scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, morning joe, Scott Walker, Wisconsin

Lou Sarah

Sarah Palin is the best! She rocks!! You betcha!!
Yoda002

Can we say Richard Nixon.
ModerateMan

Scott Walker is awesome. That’s all we can conclude from a dishonest “investigation” from the lunatic left.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Maybe Color me Ignorant will pipe down now that there is a story on this.

I fail to see how this is the huge deal you libs are making it out though. A little embarrassing sure, but Walker didn’t say anything he hasn’t said in public. Me thinks this is just the left trying to divert attention from their own self-destruction.
Black and Gold Brad

I don’t see how this tape, or anything else, changes the $3.6 Billion hole that WI is looking at, or how the duly elected representatives of WI choose to deal with it.
ModerateMan

I love how the left think this is some sort of “gotcha” moment. That’s how out of touch they have become.
Black and Gold Brad

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Me thinks this is just the left trying to divert attention from their own self-destruction.

Bingo. The cannot actually defend what the unions demand, so they point to some shiny object over there…
possibly

Now we see the real deal: Scott Walker is a complete fraud who is in cahoots with the real Koch brothers to break the unions. He’s a disgrace to Wisconsin and should resign immediately!!
tatboy

So Ian Murphy tried to trap Walker and couldn’t. Tried to entrap him with the idea of plants… and Walker didn’t bit? This is news somehow. The Dems are at this very moment commiting felonies and NOONE is reporting thagt. But THIS is news???
Tricky

Of course all of you are rightt, the only thing this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt, is that Walker and his handlers are not screening people to ensure they are who they claim to be. Oh yes, and it makes them look incompetent, but that is all it proves, nothing else.
TampopoLoco

You guys need to move a little bit faster with your stories. This one is already old.
perceptorii

A little embarrassing, to be sure, but I fail to see how this is a great “Gotcha!” moment. Walker doesn’t say anything he hasn’t already said publicly. And that the deception succeeded would actually seem to disprove the theory that he’s working with the Koch brothers, otherwise he would have been able to recognize that the voice wasn’t genuine.
TfT

The left is desparate – here they are celebrating the “prank” call – someone impersonates someone else to get a scoop and the left celebrates it. This is kind of like candid camera except with a telephone.

Lets focus on this and ignore all the real news. uh huh, yup, that is the ticket. That will make the public listen to us and respect us, as we demonstrate that we will lie, cheat and steal as part of our journalism profession and demonstrate that we are in bed with the liars, cheaters, and stealers in the democrat party.

Yup, thats the ticket. Got it. Good job.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

possibly says:
Now we see the real deal: Scott Walker is a complete fraud who is in cahoots with the real Koch brothers to break the unions. He’s a disgrace to Wisconsin and should resign immediately!!

And what did Walker say that leads you to believe they are in cahoots? What did he do that warrants his resignation?

You are “possibly” one of the most dimwitted liberals that posts here. Wear it with pride, buddy!
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

TfT says:
The left is desparate – here they are celebrating the “prank” call – someone impersonates someone else to get a scoop and the left celebrates it. This is kind of like candid camera except with a telephone.

Payback could be a byotch! Watch your back libbies! I feel some retaliation coming!
BadGenome

Lou Sarah said:
Sarah Palin is the best! She rocks!! You betcha!!

My god, are you ever a bad troll. Repetitive and boring. F-.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Tricky says:

Oh yes, and it makes them look incompetent, but that is all it proves, nothing else.

Perhaps they are just overly trusting.
kvon

We see who the real masters are in the “Conservative” movement.
possibly

Scott Walker just lost his state. He’s a lame duck from now on.
Harry Flashman

I’m wondering if those on the left will condemn this the way they have all those undercover videos of ACORN and Planned Parenthood.

Heh. Just kidding.

They’ll howl with glee over this even though there doesn’t seem to be anything new in the whole thing (except that he seems to agree that Mika is hot but then, so do most of us). Someone please point out anything egrigious he said.

This will blow over quick, escpecially if Walker just says, okay kids, you got me. now, back to the adult business of running a state.
Pablo

possibly said:
Now we see the real deal: Scott Walker is a complete fraud who is in cahoots with the real Koch brothers to break the unions. He’s a disgrace to Wisconsin and should resign immediately!!

Scott Walker is the duly elected Governor of Wisconsin, doing what he was elected to do. You don’t have to like it, but you have to live with it. Deal.
Black and Gold Brad

Ann Althouse has it absolutely correct:

“You could say that it’s bad that the prankster got through, but that shows that he’s willing to talk to a lot of people and also that David Koch isn’t a frequent caller who gets special treatment and is recognized by his caller ID and his voice and manner of speaking. Doesn’t this prank call prove that Scott Walker is not close to Koch? He doesn’t recognize his voice! He doesn’t drift into a more personal style of speech. He treats him like a generic political supporter.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/02/governor-walker-accepts-phone-call-from.html
JazzyJim

ModerateMan said:
Scott Walker is awesome. That’s all we can conclude from a dishonest “investigation” from the lunatic left.

Koch Whore.
JazzyJim

Black and Gold Brad said:
Ann Althouse has it absolutely correct:

“You could say that it’s bad that the prankster got through, but that shows that he’s willing to talk to a lot of people and also that David Koch isn’t a frequent caller who gets special treatment and is recognized by his caller ID and his voice and manner of speaking. Doesn’t this prank call prove that Scott Walker is not close to Koch? He doesn’t recognize his voice! He doesn’t drift into a more personal style of speech. He treats him like a generic political supporter.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/02/governor-walker-accepts-phone-call-from.html

He just laid out the GOP Plan to attack middle America Tax Paying workers. Yeah. It’s a Big F’d Deal!

Y
The Republicans have NEVER asked the Corporate Citizen whom they work for to sacrifice. As matter of fact, they just gave themselves another Trillion US Tax Dollars to do – NOTHING; then turn on the tax paying American middle-class and poor and ask them TO PICK UP THE TAB.

Nice work GOP. Screwing the people after 8 years of Bush is no small feat. Of course, you didn’t explain to them this when you lied running for office – just that “tough decisions” had to be made – then of course you made them at the expense of the country. The Koch Bros. are very happy with your work. You are truly Koch Whores.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!
Pablo

perceptorii said:
A little embarrassing, to be sure, but I fail to see how this is a great “Gotcha!” moment. Walker doesn’t say anything he hasn’t already said publicly.

But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but…..(fake) KOCH!!!!

Remember when Rove was the boogeyman? Man, those were good times.
JazzyJim

Pablo said:
Scott Walker is the duly elected Governor of Wisconsin, doing what he was elected to do. You don’t have to like it, but you have to live with it. Deal.

Sounds like he’s doing what the Koch Bros. want him to do. Not the constituents.
BadGenome

JazzyJim said:
Koch Whore.

HERP DERP. U CAN HAS AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT?
Black and Gold Brad

Pablo said:
Remember when Rove was the boogeyman? Man, those were good times.

I believe the delusion dujour back in those days was Rove getting “frog marched” out of the White House in some sort of perp walk. And yet Fitzmas never came.
BadGenome

What’ll they do next? Leave a flaming bag of dog crap on his doorstep?
JazzyJim

Black and Gold Brad said:
I don’t see how this tape, or anything else, changes the $3.6 Billion hole that WI is looking at, or how the duly elected representatives of WI choose to deal with it.

The shortfall was created by Scott Walker to pay people like the Koch Bros., in Corporate Welfare. That’s the issue. You can’t give away a Trillion in Corporate Welfare to the likes of the Koch Bros. (whom made $11 Billion tax free in Wisconsin last year – a record – and then laid off workers) and 2/3rd Corporate Tax free businesses and then attack the TAX PAYING MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR to pay for the Governor’s Generosity. I think this needs an Attorney General to look into. The Corporate Welfare is American’s Enemy – not the working Tax Payer (particularly since the GOP created this economic nightmare with 8 years of such gifts by the Bush/Koch Whores from 2000-2008.
possibly

This rookie Governor is toast.
http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

What’s the problem with these Republicans?

YES, we’re rescinding the collective bargaining with Public Unions because it’s inherently corrupts!

You can’t have people writing laws that enable mandatory union dues, and then use that clout to elect politicians that give you more of whatever you want – using as much taxpayer money as they need!

Lay the case out & Humiliate the Leftstream Media for trying to deliberately misrepresent it!
JazzyJim

tatboy said:
So Ian Murphy tried to trap Walker and couldn’t. Tried to entrap him with the idea of plants… and Walker didn’t bit? This is news somehow. The Dems are at this very moment commiting felonies and NOONE is reporting thagt. But THIS is news???

Walker talked a blue streak. He’s a Koch Whore and Teabaggers and Koch Whores are not America.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Jazz Hands says:

Sounds like he’s doing what the Koch Bros. want him to do. Not the constituents.

Really? He’s doing exactly what he promised to do. The voters of WI elected him because of those promises. This is yet another epic fail for you libs!!
JazzyJim

NORBIT Jr. said:
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You support a Trillion Dollar Bush Tax Gift and blame the working American middle class and poor tax payer for more Republican Idiocy? Even a numb nut like you can see that this will not fly. Stop the Koch Whores and Teabaggers (sponsored by the Koch Bros.).
perceptorii

Pablo said:
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but…..(fake) KOCH!!!!

Indeed. It’s so cute that liberals think they’ve found the conservative George Soros.
JazzyJim

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Jazz Hands says:

Sounds like he’s doing what the Koch Bros. want him to do. Not the constituents.

Really? He’s doing exactly what he promised to do. The voters of WI elected him because of those promises. This is yet another epic fail for you libs!!

No. He isn’t. Like the other Koch Whores whom wouldn’t tell their constituents “how” they were going to give these huge Tax Breaks to their base and not “how” they would then make up the short-fall – they in essence LIED. Koch Whores and Teabager = GOP. Try on the less educated minds of your own party to justify this, but real Americans are educated and not the Sheep you portent to represent.
JazzyJim

perceptorii said:
Indeed. It’s so cute that liberals think they’ve found the conservative George Soros.

SOROS!! BOO!! LOL. Sheep, so damn cute.
AIO_7

What a Koch sucking dope.
JazzyJim

possibly said:
This rookie Governor is toast.

He blew it for EVERY STATE THAT WAS IN THE GAME FOR THE KOCH BROS.!!! FOX IS ON FULL SPIN ALERT, AM HATE RADIO IS CRASHING TO DEFEND THE IDIOT AS WELL….
Black and Gold Brad

JazzyJim said:
The shortfall was created by Scott Walker to pay people like the Koch Bros., in Corporate Welfare.

And that would explain why Walker didn’t recognize Kock’s voice. And why he didn’t have Walker’s direct line.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Keep telling yourself that Jazz Hands. Polls show the people of WI are on the Govs side.
Pablo

JazzyJim said:
The shortfall was created by Scott Walker to pay people like the Koch Bros., in Corporate Welfare. That’s the issue. You can’t give away a Trillion in Corporate Welfare to the likes of the Koch Bros. (whom made $11 Billion tax free in Wisconsin last year – a record – and then laid off workers) and 2/3rd Corporate Tax free businesses and then attack the TAX PAYING MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR to pay for the Governor’s Generosity.

Walker has been in office for about 7 weeks, genius. Prior to the last election, the governor and the legislature were Democrat.
homie

Offer of a trip to Cali for a “good time” by fake Koch was rather enthusiastically received, no?

Wingnuts: Please insert false equivalences and other excuses here____________________.
JazzyJim

ModerateMan said:
I love how the left think this is some sort of “gotcha” moment. That’s how out of touch they have become.

You don’t honestly think most of America is as dumb as the teabaggers here do you? Of course he’s outed the whole Koch Whore Klan. Kudos. The one thing the Koch Bros. would really like to have is INTELLIGENT lap dogs, but know…Bush, Palin, Walker, Beck….LOL. Glennbeckistan has an average I.Q of three.
JazzyJim

*but “no” for you editors in the house. I’m having to much fun with the moronic reich-wing this morning. LOL.
Pablo

JazzyJim said:
He blew it for EVERY STATE THAT WAS IN THE GAME FOR THE KOCH BROS.!!! FOX IS ON FULL SPIN ALERT, AM HATE RADIO IS CRASHING TO DEFEND THE IDIOT AS WELL….

But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but…..(fake) KOCH!!!!

Jazzy, you kinda remind me of the Tasmanian Devil, only really dumb.
homie

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Keep telling yourself that Jazz Hands. Polls show the people of WI are on the Govs side.

Stay tuned.
JazzyJim

Black and Gold Brad said:
And that would explain why Walker didn’t recognize Kock’s voice. And why he didn’t have Walker’s direct line.

No one is accusing him (Scott Walker) of being bright. Obviously.
JazzyJim

homie said:
Stay tuned.

You must have missed the new Gallop Poll – 63% are against the Union Busting efforts. Toodles! You can find it at the Washington Post if you like.
JazzyJim

Pablo said:
Jazzy, you kinda remind me of the Tasmanian Devil, only really dumb.

Hey, I’m glad you looked that up. You’re not as stupid as your posting might suggest. Well, I won’t go that far.
Color Me Badd

He is done. Thanks Mediate for covering this important story!
http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

Obama has ordered Holder not to defend a duly passed & signed Law – doesn’t matter what law – because he deems it unconstitutional!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!
Harry Flashman

My my my…..

Note how the lefties like “Jazzy Jim” are all over the Kock brothers but have applauded George Soros’ involvement and out and out meddling.

Suace, meet goose.

Get over it.
JazzyJim

homie said:
Stay tuned.

They got nothing. You have to admire their blind and continual stupidity to support morons though. Bush 8 years, Palin, they just like ‘em dumb. That’s why they don’t care about education. Jesus Camp is all they need.
Hawk11

Spitzer lost his job for engaging with prostitutes, Walker will lose his job for being a prostitute.
Grammie

NORBIT Jr. said:
Obama has ordered Holder not to defend a duly passed & signed Law – doesn’t matter what law – because he deems it unconstitutional!

.
Now that is truly important news.

Let’s see how this is covered here, if at all.
Color Me Badd

Grammie said:
.
Now that is truly important news.

Let’s see how this is covered here, if at all.

No it isn’t

But Scott Walker possibly admitting to committing a felony on tape is.
juan

possibly said:
This rookie Governor is toast.

This rookie Governor is WINNING and honest!

GO, WALKER!
JazzyJim

Harry Flashman said:
My my my…..

Note how the lefties like “Jazzy Jim” are all over the Kock brothers but have applauded George Soros’ involvement and out and out meddling.

Suace, meet goose.

Get over it.

Despite Glennbeckistans attacks on Soros – there is nothing there. Fox attacks EVERYONE that doesn’t drink their Kool-Aide. Valerie Plame, Cindy Sheehan, Democrats, liberals, educated, scientists, doctors, American Tax Paying working class, teachers, union workers, Santa Claus, etc. What does that mean? It means if you’re not “one of them” (Scott Walker) you’re the enemy and YOU are their stooge. Congrats. You’re a Koch Whoring Teabager and sheep of the Corporate Citizen.
Harry Flashman

Grammie:

“Let’s see how this is covered here, if at all.”

Its covered under a headline about Monica Crowley. The headline doesn’t mention the edict from Holder.

Imagine that.
juan

Color Me Badd said:
No it isn’t But Scott Walker possibly admitting to committing a felony on tape is.

What did he say that could possibly be a felony?
JazzyJim

NORBIT Jr. said:
Obama has ordered Holder not to defend a duly passed & signed Law – doesn’t matter what law – because he deems it unconstitutional!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

Says the Teabaggers whom had Clarence Thomas “anoint” George W. Bush in 2000. You have no credibility, though you are incredibly moronic.
Harry Flashman

Jazzy Jim said:

“Congrats. You’re a Koch Whoring Teabager and sheep of the Corporate Citizen.”

Oh, my…this is so unexpected. Thank you so much. If I’d known you were giving this award from “Socialists ‘R’ Us” I’d have gotten a haircut. Gosh.

Sweet tapdancin’ allah.
AIO_7

“You must have missed the new Gallop Poll – 63% are against the Union Busting efforts. Toodles! You can find it at the Washington Post if you like.”

Unless you’re a TeaBagger watching Fox “news”, who purposefully reversed those numbers.
juan

JazzyJim said:
They got nothing. You have to admire their blind and continual stupidity to support morons though. Bush 8 years, Palin, they just like ‘em dumb. That’s why they don’t care about education. Jesus Camp is all they need.

Why are Obama’s school records hidden? Talk about DUMB!
Color Me Badd

juan said:
What did he say that could possibly be a felony?

When the fake David Koch said that he had “vested interests in the bill”. Walker’s bill allows public energy companies to be bought by private interests.

Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill”

John Nichols is reporting that a copy of this tape has been sent to the Wisconsin Attorney General and the US Attorney General Eric Holder.

he is done, son.
Color Me Badd

AIO_7 said:
“You must have missed the new Gallop Poll – 63% are against the Union Busting efforts. Toodles! You can find it at the Washington Post if you like.”

Unless you’re a TeaBagger watching Fox “news”, who purposefully reversed those numbers.

Yep saw that story in the greatest website in the world Media Matters, they don’t even care if they get caught lying at this point cause they are so desperate.
im_lovin_it

Color Me Badd said:
When the fake David Koch said that he had “vested interests in the bill”. Walker’s bill allows public energy companies to be bought by private interests.

Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill”

John Nichols is reporting that a copy of this tape has been sent to the Wisconsin Attorney General and the US Attorney General Eric Holder.

he is done, son.

Koch: [Laughs] Well, I tell you what, Scott: once you crush these bastards I’ll fly you out to Cali and really show you a good time.

Walker: All right, that would be outstanding. Thanks for all the support…it’s all about getting our freedoms back…
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Hawk11 says:
Spitzer lost his job for engaging with prostitutes, Walker will lose his job for being a prostitute.

Should Obamalose his job?

Shocking Level of Influence Exposed: Union Boss Trumka Talks to White House EVERY DAY and Visits a Couple Times A Week

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shocking-level-of-influence-exposed-union-boss-trumka-talks-to-white-house-every-day-and-visits-a-couple-times-a-week/
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Color me Ignorant says:

he is done, son.

I’ll get back to you in a few months when he’s still in office and nothing comes of this. You have plenty of time to start coming up with the spin now.
Cecelia

Color Me Badd said:
Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill”

Wow…with such a smoking gun, there shouldn’t even be a trial…
Pablo

Color Me Dumbb said:
When the fake David Koch said that he had “vested interests in the bill”. Walker’s bill allows public energy companies to be bought by private interests.

Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill”

John Nichols is reporting that a copy of this tape has been sent to the Wisconsin Attorney General and the US Attorney General Eric Holder.

he is done, son.

And how would that be a felony? You people are demented.
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

Black and Gold Brad said:
I don’t see how this tape, or anything else, changes the $3.6 Billion hole that WI is looking at, or how the duly elected representatives of WI choose to deal with it.

Well, first off, the budget deficit WI faces is more like $137 million, not billions. So they don’t really have to face that number, wherever it came from. Second, the Wisconsin public employees pension fund is almost fully funded (99.7 percent according to a Pew report) for all obligations. It is regarded as one of the most fiscally sound in the US with over $77 billion in assets. Third, Wisconsin paid Wall Street money managers over $190 million last year alone even though state employees managed at least half of the pension fund. If he wanted to, Walker could solve the deficit by simply not paying Wall Street anymore.

And, in case nobody wants to notice, the unions have already agreed to all of the fiscal changes. Walker is not really interested in that, otherwise a policy matter like collective bargaining would not be buried in the budget.

To be fair, the unions are also not playing honestly here. The union leaders fail to admit that their entire existence and lavish pay packages are at taxpayer expense and that they are encouraging their members to lie about being sick to take days off, even to the extent of getting doctors to write notes that are plainly false.

This is about titanic egos in little children who have no interest in the actual people. Walker only wants to satisfy his masters in the Tea Party and the Kochs while the unions only want to make sure they continue to exist so they can influence elections. Neither side cares one iota about Wisconsin or the people.
Cecelia

Pablo said:
You people are demented.

Nah…just really really silly.
Raygun

Harry Flashman said:
My my my…..

Note how the lefties like “Jazzy Jim” are all over the Kock brothers but have applauded George Soros’ involvement and out and out meddling.

Suace, meet goose.

Get over it.

Pot, meet kettle. Every conservative website thinks George Soros is an evil puppeteer while saying that the Koch brothers are just supporting causes they believe in.
kvon

Pablo said:
And how would that be a felony? You people are demented.

How about the fact that the Koch’s started a media blitz on the Union Busting before the State Senators even knew there was a bill being brought forth?

Funny how that happens, isn’t. A giant company starts to sway public opinion for a bill that hasn’t even been introduced yet…odd.
murf

JazzyJim said:
Says the Teabaggers whom had Clarence Thomas “anoint” George W. Bush in 2000. You have no credibility, though you are incredibly moronic.

Look who is PAUL WESTLAKE posting under a dope , cokehead musician , VERY fitting Paul !
tgk

Color Me Badd said:
No it isn’t But Scott Walker possibly admitting to committing a felony on tape is.

Boy, you’d think Walker possibly admitting a felony would be worthy of being included in this article. Guess Mediaite doesn’t see it quite the way you do.
jjay7381

Scott Walker admitted that he had been thinking about PLANTING “troublemakers” into the crowds. That is so beyond reprehensible for a public official, let alone a governor, to do. It’s dishonest at best and dangerous at worst. The ego on this guy knows no bounds and I hope the people of Wisconsin stick a fork in this fu*kers career.
Hawk11

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Hawk11 says:
Spitzer lost his job for engaging with prostitutes, Walker will lose his job for being a prostitute.

Should Obamalose his job?

Shocking Level of Influence Exposed: Union Boss Trumka Talks to White House EVERY DAY and Visits a Couple Times A Week

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shocking-level-of-influence-exposed-union-boss-trumka-talks-to-white-house-every-day-and-visits-a-couple-times-a-week/

Don’t show me the Blaze… Please. Don’t show me FOX nation, and don’t show me Newsmax.

It’s pointless to debate anyone who looks to the above for your daily news. Don’t miss Glenn’s latest conspiracy theory today.
Grammie

Keeva said:
Well, first off, the budget deficit WI faces is more like $137 million, not billions.

.Well, what are the projections going out five or ten years or is that immaterial?
Yoda002

NORBIT Jr. said:
Obama has ordered Holder not to defend a duly passed & signed Law – doesn’t matter what law – because he deems it unconstitutional!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!

Bush didn’t follow laws because of his writing statements on a bill.
Cecelia

murf said:
Look who is PAUL WESTLAKE posting under a dope , cokehead musician ,

I don’t believe that. Paul Westlake would know that the Tea Party wasn’t around in 2000.
Pablo

Keeva said:
Well, first off, the budget deficit WI faces is more like $137 million, not billions.

That’s this year. The next two years, beginning in June, they’re looking at $3.6 billion in deficits.
murf

It’s astonishing reading these comments by leftists ..talking about being “brainwashed ‘ by Fox News , Beck , Palin, Koch Bros, etc … all the while spewing nothing BUT MSNBC talking head , talking points ! Yet the irony is totally lost on them , amazing.
juan

Color Me Badd said:
When the fake David Koch said that he had “vested interests in the bill”. Walker’s bill allows public energy companies to be bought by private interests. Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill” John Nichols is reporting that a copy of this tape has been sent to the Wisconsin Attorney General and the US Attorney General Eric Holder. he is done, son.

No, he’s not, but the IMPERSONATOR is!

All Wisconsin taxpayers have a vested interest in this!
murf

Cecelia said:
I don’t believe that. Paul Westlake would know that the Tea Party wasn’t around in 2000.

Oh , it’s Paul Westlake alright…
Grammie

tgk said:
Boy, you’d think Walker possibly admitting a felony would be worthy of being included in this article. Guess Mediaite doesn’t see it quite the way you do.

.
It’s not that, silly!

Keep it on the down low but I heard that Mediaite is a really silent partner in the Great Koch Bros Kabal and are just trying to fool those great intellects such as Jazzed, Bovine and King.

Shhh!
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Hawk says:

Don’t show me the Blaze

That was merely a video of Trumpka in his OWN words. Funny how I can’t get ONE of you libs to comment on the substance of what he is saying. Don’t get me wrong, it is really hard to defend that.
jjay7381

murf said:
It’s astonishing reading these comments by leftists ..talking about being “brainwashed ‘ by Fox News , Beck , Palin, Koch Bros, etc … all the while spewing nothing BUT MSNBC talking head , talking points ! Yet the irony is totally lost on them , amazing.

If you want to refer to facts and sound judgement as MSNBC talking points, that’s your right, but don’t hate just because some of us aren’t brainwashed by FOX, which has time after time been proven to be misleading.
BadGenome

jjay7381 said:
Scott Walker admitted that he had been thinking about PLANTING “troublemakers” into the crowds. That is so beyond reprehensible for a public official, let alone a governor, to do. It’s dishonest at best and dangerous at worst. The ego on this guy knows no bounds and I hope the people of Wisconsin stick a fork in this fu*kers career.

Yeah! I mean, can you imagine if the President of the United States had his political arm busing troublemakers into Wisconsin to oppose Walker’s bill? The right AND the left would be united in outrage over such a thing! Right?

Right????

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/DNC_playing_role_in_Wisconsin_protests.html

Oh. Maybe not.
juan

jjay7381 said:
Scott Walker admitted that he had been thinking about PLANTING “troublemakers” into the crowds. That is so beyond reprehensible for a public official, let alone a governor, to do. It’s dishonest at best and dangerous at worst. The ego on this guy knows no bounds and I hope the people of Wisconsin stick a fork in this fu*kers career.

Obama plants SEIU and OFA THUGS in his audience all of the time!
murf

jjay7381 said:
If you want to refer to facts and sound judgement as MSNBC talking points, that’s your right, but don’t hate just because some of us aren’t brainwashed by FOX, which has time after time been proven to be misleading.

I hardly watch Fox, in fact you’d be surprised the many , many conservatives who don’t watch as much as you think…. I do understand the need to demonize it though, you leftists need an excuse for failed , unpopular policies and ideas..
kvon

juan said:
No, he’s not, but the IMPERSONATOR is!

All Wisconsin taxpayers have a vested interest in this!

Some people are too stupid to talk to. Juan, do you really think you should be commenting on this?
Cecelia

murf said:
Oh , it’s Paul Westlake alright…

The juvenile crowing and “Legend In His Own Mind” manner are the same, but Westlake isn’t stupid. That other guy is.
kvon

juan said:
Obama plants SEIU and OFA THUGS in his audience all of the time!

Anything that is written or said by Glenn Beck you believe, right?
Hawk11

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Hawk says:

Don’t show me the Blaze

That was merely a video of Trumpka in his OWN words. Funny how I can’t get ONE of you libs to comment on the substance of what he is saying. Don’t get me wrong, it is really hard to defend that.

It’s impossible to debate a fool about being a fool when that fool gets their ideals from fools.

And that link you provided said absolutely nothing. How is it you go about defending Scott Walker by finding a link about President Obama that has absolutely no bearing on this discussion?
Ajolily

Hawk11 said:
Don’t show me the Blaze… Please. Don’t show me FOX nation, and don’t show me Newsmax. It’s pointless to debate anyone who looks to the above for your daily news. Don’t miss Glenn’s latest conspiracy theory today.

Just let me bury my head in the sand and not have to look at all sides of the issue.
jjay7381

juan said:
Obama plants SEIU and OFA THUGS in his audience all of the time!

I think you’re missing the point because you’re comparing apples to oranges. There’s a difference between putting members of a group in your own audience at any given speech or whatever and intentionally planting troublemakers in an opponent’s otherwise peaceful protest just to sabotage them. I would kind of expect most people to understand that difference…
DaTruth

I can’t vouch for this, but someone posted on another site the Wisconsin law regarding recording phone conversations and using any evidence gained thereof. Doesn’t look like any of this chatter about “ethical violations” could ever come to pass, even if there were some evidence of them (which I don’t even see):

“Wisconsin is currently a one-party state though recent attempts in the legislature there have attempted, unsuccessfully so far, to change it to two-party. Even so, any evidence gathered by a one-party consensual recording is inadmissible except in murder or drug cases, as they say.

The Wisconsin Stats 885.365 Recorded telephone conversation (1) states “Evidence obtained as the result of the use of voice recording equipment for recording of telephone conversations, by way of interception of a communication or in any other number, shall be totally inadmissible in the court of this state in civil actions, except as provided by 968.28 to 968.37.” Exceptions are it the party is informed before the recording is informed at the time that the conversation is being recorded and that any evidence thereby obtained may be used in a court of law or such recording is made through a recorder connector proved by the telecommunications utility as defined in WI Stats 968.28 – 968.37 (which is the stat for court ordered wiretaps) which automatically produces a distinctive recorder tone that is repeated at intervals of approximately 15 seconds. Fire department or law enforcement agencies are exempt as are court ordered wire tapes.

Also a recording on the phone made from a out of state call or made to an out of state party, has to have the party informed of the recording and his consent or the tone on line, every 15 seconds, or a consent in writing before the recording is started.

Needless to say this does not allow a person not a party to the conversation to record any part of the conversation without the parties to the conversation being informed the third party is recording the conversation.”
Mr B

Again, thank you for proving what despicable people you are on the left. And thank you for making it clear that we have elected a Leader who is about to bring real CHANGE to Wisconsin.

Dishonest hacks 0
Walker 1
WHarropson

The man who fears no truths has nothing to fear from lies.
– Sir Francis Bacon

Good I get to post this again..
Cecelia

jjay7381 said:
I think you’re missing the point because you’re comparing apples to oranges. There’s a difference between putting members of a group in your own audience at any given speech or whatever and intentionally planting troublemakers in an opponent’s otherwise peaceful protest just to sabotage them. I would kind of expect most people to understand that difference…

It’s moot anyway.

Walker shot down the idea in the phone call.

Saying “we thought about it ” is about as incriminating admission as saying that someone had mentioned it in all the back and forth of discussion.
RichS

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Maybe Color me Ignorant will pipe down now that there is a story on this. I fail to see how this is the huge deal you libs are making it out though. A little embarrassing sure, but Walker didn’t say anything he hasn’t said in public. Me thinks this is just the left trying to divert attention from their own self-destruction.

If the Gov is in bed with the Koch Brothers don’t you think he’d be able to recognize their voices? When I read this it appeared to be a Governor taking a call from an influential person that he didn’t know. Happens all the time.
jjay7381

Cecelia said:
It’s moot anyway.

Walker shot down the idea in the phone call.

Saying “we thought about it ” is about as incriminating admission as saying that someone had mentioned it in all the back and forth of discussion.

He only shot it down, as he pointed out, because although they had considered the idea, he didn’t feel like it was necessary because he feels he has enough public support already. My read into it was that he would have considered it more seriously if he felt he was losing the battle for public opinion. That is what scares me and that is what I find intolerable.
Cecelia

DaTruth said:
Needless to say this does not allow a person not a party to the conversation to record any part of the conversation without the parties to the conversation being informed the third party is recording the conversation.”

Well, it certainly looks as though Koch and Walker aren’t very well acquainted.

Gov Walker doesn’t seem to know much of Koch’s manner or voice.
homie

“The non-profit Public Campaign Action Fund said Wednesday that Governor Walker’s revealing conversation with a gonzo journalist pretending to be one of his wealthy financiers could constitute an ethics violation and breach of campaign law.”

Be a shame if this were to blow up in Walker, Wisconson Ranger’s face…
Yoda002

RichS said:
If the Gov is in bed with the Koch Brothers don’t you think he’d be able to recognize their voices? When I read this it appeared to be a Governor taking a call from an influential person that he didn’t know. Happens all the time.

Walker is so influenced by their presence that he didn’t even check it out before spilling his beans.
Lou Sarah

BadGenome said:
My god, are you ever a bad troll. Repetitive and boring. F-.

Big Mistake pal! Lou Sarah NEVER forgets a slight (real or perceived)….. You are on my radar now….. and I will do everything in my power to crush you!!!! It’s gonna get so bad you may need Schneider to write an “In defense of BadGenome” piece for you!!!!!! LOU SARAH WILL NEVER FORGET THIS SLIGHT!!!!!!
The_Reasonable_Lib

I love the hypocrisy from conservatives like MicheleF and Pablo. Obama gets elected and does what he was elected to do and all they do is complain and say “this isn’t what the people want”. Walker gets elected and does what he said he would do, despite the fact that polls have shown it unpopular and there have been massive protests in his state, and they want people to shut up and accept it. What’s going on here? It’s awfully funny when the roles are reversed.
Cecelia

jjay7381 said:
My read into it was that he would have considered it more seriously if he felt he was losing the battle for public opinion. That is what scares me and that is what I find intolerable.

He also said that they shouldn’t do it because a bigger brouhaha would cause the public to put pressure on him to settle things.

I wish Walker had dismissed the fake Koch’s suggestion immediately on the grounds that it was unethical, but I realize too, that when you’re talking to someone in a cordial way, you generally avoid saying things that put the other party in a bad light.
http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

Yoda002 said:
Walker is so influenced by their presence that he didn’t even check it out before spilling his beans.

Does it really matter?
Why do you think they’re scrambling for the gay vote now?

As they say, “The writing is on the wall”!
The_Reasonable_Lib

Cecelia said:
He also said that they shouldn’t do it because a bigger brouhaha would cause the public to put pressure on him to settle things.

I wish Walker had dismissed the fake Koch’s suggestion immediately on the grounds that it was unethical, but I realize too, that when you’re talking to someone in a cordial way, you generally avoid saying things that put the other party in a bad light.

Welcome to politics.
Cecelia

What Walker said about whether or not the fleeing senators were having their lodgings financed by unions was interesting too.

Surely there’s not a politician alive who is stupid enough to put himself in that situation.
Cecelia

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Welcome to politics.

Exactly.
jerrybobphil

Sorry after listening to Howard Stern for years this prank call sucked.
BlueBunny

Lou Sarah said:
Lou Sarah

HAHHAHAHA ! What an original name.
The_Reasonable_Lib

Cecelia said:
Exactly.

Each side does the same thing. think of the “Acorn tapes”. This will only go as far as people are willing to make it. If the media takes hold of it and runs it may cause some ripples, but more than likely there’ll be an apology, a clarification and an attempt to keep it alive that will fail.
OxyCon

Flashback: Teachers Union Chief Says “It’s Not Because We Care About Children — It’s About Power”…

National Education Association’s retiring top lawyer, Bob Chanin, speaking at the NEA’s annual meeting in July, 2009:

“Despite what some among us would like to believe it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children and it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power.”

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/02/23/teachers-union-big-wig-says-its-not-about-kids-its-about-power
lane

I listened to both tapes, and literally laughed when he said ‘who watches MSNBC nowadays. Kind of sad, but very true. In part 2, he talks about how they’re doing is the ‘right thing’ when faux Koch tries talks about bringing the union down, Walker talks about doing the right thing. This will be fun to see how the media spins the pieces.

You may want to report on the idea to make the senators pick up their checks at the capital, I thought if legal, it’s a great way to make them prove their truth. Best way to get anyone back to work is to hold up their paycheck….
lane

Cecelia said:
What Walker said about whether or not the fleeing senators were having their lodgings financed by unions was interesting too. Surely there’s not a politician alive who is stupid enough to put himself in that situation.

That was interesting, but I think it’s likely pure speculation. If the unions did pay for it, seems like there’d be laws being broken and at minimum serious ethics violations. So easy to track as well, so I think it’s more conjecture than reality….
BlueBunny

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
conservatives like MicheleF and Pablo

Same person!
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

Pablo said:
That’s this year. The next two years, beginning in June, they’re looking at $3.6 billion in deficits.

But the governor keeps talking about this year, this year, this year. And for this year, they are not billions short. As far as projections, what state 4 years ago projected deficits? None. So, in a large way, the projections are nonsense to start with and are changed every year.

I personally do not think public employees should be unionized. There are whole bodies of law that protect them in ways that private employees are not. Plus, those are tax dollars being used to finance political action by the union. Always a bad thing. Every penny of public employee union dues is taken out of the pocket of the public employee, thus reducing their pay artificially to feed the union elite.

However, it is also not a budget issue. It is a policy issue. If either side was serious about the budget issue (and they are not) they would resolve this year’s budget and then present a separate piece of legislation to deal with the unions.

By combining them, Walker set this up. Had they put the union matter separately it would not have fallen into the 2/3 rule that has the state at a standstill. In fact, if he was serious about this, that is exactly what he would do.

But this really is not about the people of Wisconsin or the budget. It is about the usual hyper-partisan politics being played out for the extremes of both parties. At the end of the day, this helps nobody.
The_Reasonable_Lib

BlueBunny said:
Same person!

Not quite
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Hawk says:
And that link you provided said absolutely nothing. How is it you go about defending Scott Walker by finding a link about President Obama that has absolutely no bearing on this discussion?

So to you libs, the union head admitting that BO is their lapdog is ok, but the Koch Bro’s talking to a Repub Gov is grounds for jail? Glad I cleared that up! You logic is really hard to follow.
Cecelia

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Each side does the same thing. think of the “Acorn tapes”. This will only go as far as people are willing to make it. If the media takes hold of it and runs it may cause some ripples, but more than likely there’ll be an apology, a clarification and an attempt to keep it alive that will fail.

Well, I’m not sure what you mean here, because by “politics”, but by it I mean that people in general aren’t quick to bust someone in a private conversation. If someone makes a stupid suggestion, the other party generally either ignores it or pretends that it isn’t nonsense by politely “explaining” why they must act differently.

This is especially true if the parties involved are politicians talking to important constituents.
Cecelia

lane said:
So easy to track as well, so I think it’s more conjecture than reality….

I think you’re right because I don’t think even a politician could be that dumb.
Penguin60

Pablo said:
Jazzy, you kinda remind me of the Tasmanian Devil, only really dumb.

Dumb? That’s being quite kind.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

UNreasonable lib says

I love the hypocrisy from conservatives like MicheleF and Pablo. Obama gets elected and does what he was elected to do and all they do is complain and say

You’re either lying or stupid. Obama ran as a centrist, like all liberals do because they KNOW the people reject liberalism. They ALWAYS hide their true intentions.
The_Reasonable_Lib

Cecelia said:
Well, I’m not sure what you mean here, because by “politics”, but by it I mean that people in general aren’t quick to bust someone in a private conversation. If someone makes a stupid suggestion, the other party generally either ignores it or pretends that it isn’t nonsense by politely “explaining” why they must act differently.

This is especially true if the parties involved are politicians talking to important constituents.

Let me clarify, the same thing done is similar to what James O’Keefe did with Acorn. I’m agreeing with your point about private conversation by offering that as a comparison. When a woman realized O’Keefe was joking, she decided to up the absurdity and tell him she killed her husband rather than bust him in convo.

The rest of my post was just a lament on the subject in general and what will come of it.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Maybe Color me Ignorant will pipe down now that there is a story on this.

I fail to see how this is the huge deal you libs are making it out though. A little embarrassing sure, but Walker didn’t say anything he hasn’t said in public. Me thinks this is just the left trying to divert attention from their own self-destruction.

Here is a nice analysis of it, as well as pointing out the misleading and false transcript that was originally put out, claiming Walker said, “oh yea” about Mika being a nice piece of a**.

Some liberals are claiming that Walker responded “oh yeah” when fake Koch referred to MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski as a “piece of a–.” But TNR’s Jon Chait has had to correct his post to acknowledge that the early transcription was “totally misleading.”

Liberals are also seizing on Walker saying “we thought about that” when fake Koch suggested “planting some trouble-makers” among the protesters. But Walker actually goes on at length to explain why he doesn’t think it’s a good idea. “Let them protest,” he said. “It’s not going to affect us. And as long as we go back to our homes and the majority of people are telling us we’re doing the right thing, let them protest all they want.”

When Walker explained that they may have found evidence that unions were paying to put lawmakers up at hotels, which he said if true, would be an ethics code violation or felony, fake Koch chimes in “they’re probably putting hobos in suits, that’s what we do.” Yet Walker corrects him to say that he’s only talking about lawmakers: “People can pay protesters to come in, that’s not an ethics code (violation).”

“The worst you can say about the call — aside from the screening bungle by his staffers — is that he took 20 minutes of time to speak with a rich guy from out of state. But at the same time, the call undermines the conspiracy that Koch is secretly controlling events in Wisconsin, as Walker is clearly explaining the way things are to fake Koch and the decisions he’s making, rather than acting on Koch’s suggestions. Also, as some have pointed out, their interaction on the call seems to suggest that the two don’t know each other, or at the least, not very well.”

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/02/23/prank-call-reveals-that-scott

Sounds like this was a big fail, and a sad attempt to smear someone….
Cecelia

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
she decided to up the absurdity and tell him she killed her husband rather than bust him in convo.

It’s more likely that she wasn’t concerned about busting him out of concern for his feelings (my contention about Walker), she was just having fun hustling a hustler.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

homie said:
Offer of a trip to Cali for a “good time” by fake Koch was rather enthusiastically received, no?

Wingnuts: Please insert false equivalences and other excuses here____________________.

ok, desperate much?

he replied enthusiastically?
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!
The_Reasonable_Lib

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
UNreasonable lib says

I love the hypocrisy from conservatives like MicheleF and Pablo. Obama gets elected and does what he was elected to do and all they do is complain and say

You’re either lying or stupid. Obama ran as a centrist, like all liberals do because they KNOW the people reject liberalism. They ALWAYS hide their true intentions.

And he has governed as a centrist as well. Health care reform? He promised it on the campaign trail. Stimulus bill? he promised it on the campaign trail. he did exactly what he said and what he was elected to and you hit the roof. Walker does the same and you tell people that’s what he was elected to do and he’s doing it. Please explain this to me, otherwise you stand as a hypocrite.
And your statement is further rejected by the fact that liberal economic policies prevailed for damn near a century, Truman, Wilson, Kennedy, LBJ, Roosevelt, Clinton and just for the hell of it let’s lump in Eisenhower. Look at the makeup of Congress from Hoover to Clinton. Economically they were predominately liberals.
gar

murf said:
Look who is PAUL WESTLAKE posting under a dope , cokehead musician , VERY fitting Paul !

Paulie the self described freelancer, more like freeloader (living off his dead fathers inheritence), is allowed out of the asylum on weekday’s now. must be taking his meds. BTW unlike most cokehead musicians Paulie has no talent, but he does have the money to front.
The_Reasonable_Lib

Cecelia said:
It’s more likely that she wasn’t concerned about busting him out of concern for his feelings (my contention about Walker), she was just having fun hustling a hustler.

Point taken, but it would still have been impolite to simply bust him.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Color Me Badd said:
When the fake David Koch said that he had “vested interests in the bill”. Walker’s bill allows public energy companies to be bought by private interests.

Walker laughed and agreed when the fake Koch talked about having “vested interest in the bill”

John Nichols is reporting that a copy of this tape has been sent to the Wisconsin Attorney General and the US Attorney General Eric Holder.

he is done, son.

You are kidding, aren’t you?

Koch: [Laughs] Well, I tell you what, Scott: Once you crush these bastards I’ll fly you out to Cali (California) and really show you a good time.

Walker: All right, that would be outstanding. Thanks for all the support in helping us move the cause forward, and we appreciate it, and we’re doing it the just and right thing for the right reasons and it’s all about getting our freedoms back.

Koch: Absolutely. And, you know, we have a little bit of a vested interest as well. [Laughs]

Walker: Well that’s just it, the bottom line is we’re gonna get the world moving here ’cause it’s the right thing to do.

Koch: Alright then.

Walker: Thanks a million!

Koch: Bye-bye!

Walker: Bye.

WOW! scandal!
tigerprez

If anything, this whole prank definitively proves that Walker had never actually spoken to the real David Koch before, disproving the notion that Koch is the nefarious puppet master behind Walker’s evil plan to break the unions. I imagine all of those protestors holding signs with that particular accusation will have to take them down now. But I doubt they will.
Penguin60

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
he did exactly what he said and what he was elected to and you hit the roof.

Is that why the backdoor deals, bribes and exemptions were needed to pass?
Gasket

tigerprez said:
If anything, this whole prank definitively proves that Walker had never actually spoken to the real David Koch before, disproving the notion that Koch is the nefarious puppet master behind Walker’s evil plan to break the unions. I imagine all of those protestors holding signs with that particular accusation will have to take them down now. But I doubt they will.

The Kochs have loyalists who do their work for them. While I think Walker is a fruitcake, I can excuse him for falling for the prank.
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

sarainitaly said:
You are kidding, aren’t you?

WOW! scandal!

Sadly, I don’t think they’re kidding. I think they are seriously going to try to turn a relatively meaningless phone call into a prosecution for the sake of political gamesmanship. The real loser here – the people. Again.
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

tigerprez said:
If anything, this whole prank definitively proves that Walker had never actually spoken to the real David Koch before, disproving the notion that Koch is the nefarious puppet master behind Walker’s evil plan to break the unions. I imagine all of those protestors holding signs with that particular accusation will have to take them down now. But I doubt they will.

It proves or disproves nothing of the sort. That is as much of a leap of flawed logic as the leap that assumes the phone call proves some kind of nefarious deeds.

All this phone call proves is that our telecommunication system works.
CosmosDan

JazzyJim said:
Walker talked a blue streak. He’s a Koch Whore and Teabaggers and Koch Whores are not America.

Is this an example of what you think America is?
RichS

Black and Gold Brad said:
And that would explain why Walker didn’t recognize Kock’s voice. And why he didn’t have Walker’s direct line.

Please, jazzy types a lot but doesn’t say anything. ignore him. Adressing him is like scatching a sore, it just makes it worse.
CosmosDan

Keeva said:
But the governor keeps talking about this year, this year, this year. And for this year, they are not billions short. As far as projections, what state 4 years ago projected deficits? None. So, in a large way, the projections are nonsense to start with and are changed every year.

I personally do not think public employees should be unionized. There are whole bodies of law that protect them in ways that private employees are not. Plus, those are tax dollars being used to finance political action by the union. Always a bad thing. Every penny of public employee union dues is taken out of the pocket of the public employee, thus reducing their pay artificially to feed the union elite.

However, it is also not a budget issue. It is a policy issue. If either side was serious about the budget issue (and they are not) they would resolve this year’s budget and then present a separate piece of legislation to deal with the unions.

By combining them, Walker set this up. Had they put the union matter separately it would not have fallen into the 2/3 rule that has the state at a standstill. In fact, if he was serious about this, that is exactly what he would do.

But this really is not about the people of Wisconsin or the budget. It is about the usual hyper-partisan politics being played out for the extremes of both parties. At the end of the day, this helps nobody.

Thanks Keeva for another good post.

I was reading on politifact that some of the civil employee laws that protect others don’t apply to teachers. If true that’s also something that can be addressed. I agree. It seems they could make the budget and public union issues separate matters
Cecelia

Keeva said:
All this phone call proves is that our telecommunication system works.

Well, frankly, by your “logic” that phone call would prove that our telecommunication system sucks since one can’t distinguish the voice of friend from a stranger.
RichS

Yoda002 said:
Walker is so influenced by their presence that he didn’t even check it out before spilling his beans.

If you couldn’t address what I said why did you reply at all?
RichS

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I love the hypocrisy from conservatives like MicheleF and Pablo. Obama gets elected and does what he was elected to do and all they do is complain and say “this isn’t what the people want”. Walker gets elected and does what he said he would do, despite the fact that polls have shown it unpopular and there have been massive protests in his state, and they want people to shut up and accept it. What’s going on here? It’s awfully funny when the roles are reversed.

Therefore, since you supported President Obama for doing what he was elected to do you must now support Governor Walker for doing what he was elected to do. Either you support Governor Walker or you are a hypocrite. Which is it?
GlennBovineKoldys

Cecelia said:
Well, frankly, by your “logic” that phone call would prove that our telecommunication system sucks since one can’t distinguish the voice of friend from a stranger.

So you are saying David Kocks, er, David Koch and Scott Wanker are friends.
stephenpyle

I think the better story is this guy’s awesome lazy eye.
Yoda002

RichS said:
If you couldn’t address what I said why did you reply at all?

He was so happy to hear from one of his puppet masters that he didn’t do anything to check who called. For a governor that is not proper procedure. Usually what happens you get to talk to an aid and he would get the persons number and then after that he would call him back. But there would be a verification process before the governor calls the person back.
Cecelia

GlennBovineKoldys said:
So you are saying David Kocks, er, David Koch and Scott Wanker are friends.

Obviously, Einstein, if he couldn’t tell Koch’s voice from someone pretending to be him.
timcajun

I heard this guy was a turd, but didn’t know for sure! Now he has proven it himself. He couldn’t wait to suck up to a dark lord and it didn’t work!
david r

Didn’t Palin fall victim to some prank like this? You’d think they’d be more careful.
Tedderman

The union leaders have called Walker for a week and gotten no reply other than “we will crush you.” He thinks
David Koch, his lord and master rings him up and he’s as giddy as a school boy, fawning breathlessly over his every word. And Beck claimed Soros is the puppet master, he ain’t got nothin’ on the Koch brothers.
BruinAlum77

Walker: “You know, well, the only problem with that — because we thought about that.”

The idea that one of our elected officials could even consider the idea of bringing troublemakers into a demonstration and risk violence is beyond my imagination.

Then Walker concludes: “My only fear would be if there’s a ruckus caused is that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has to settle to avoid all these problems.” In other words, he didn’t commit a crime we haven’t seen since the murderous striker breakers of the 1900′s because it would have adverse political effects.

This is the kind of incident when one would hope that every person, regardless of party would rise up and condemn the governor for his behavior.
RichS

Yoda002 said:
He was so happy to hear from one of his puppet masters that he didn’t do anything to check who called. For a governor that is not proper procedure. Usually what happens you get to talk to an aid and he would get the persons number and then after that he would call him back. But there would be a verification process before the governor calls the person back.

You didn’t hear the whole story, did you? Try spending less time reading Democrat talking points and more time finding out the facts of a story before you go into Democrat shill mode.
GlennBovineKoldys

Cecelia said:
Obviously, Einstein, if he couldn’t tell Koch’s voice from someone pretending to be him.

Another one that just flew over your bad dye job.

Scott Wanker was willing to entertain whatever stupid ideas he heard because he THOUGHT he was talking to the real deal, to the real David Koch. Then he continued spilling his nasty gNOpig reptilian schemes.

That is the alarming and shocking part. On the bright side, Scott Wanker cannot pretend anymore.
lane

Cecelia said:
I think you’re right because I don’t think even a politician could be that dumb.

Since they’re strategy is to sit in a hotel across state lines, they definitely can be that dumb. I just think it’s easy to ‘follow’ the money’ in these things.

You’ve made many good posts in this thread. I think it’s funny how the ‘punk’ reveals how consistent Walker is both publicly and privately.
http://ldownes.wordpress.com Larry Downes

BruinAlum77 said:
Walker: “You know, well, the only problem with that — because we thought about that.”

The idea that one of our elected officials could even consider the idea of bringing troublemakers into a demonstration and risk violence is beyond my imagination.

Seriously? You’re surprised a politician is sending toadys to a demonstration to cause problems? Don’t you think that bridge was crossed when President Obama’s own group, Organizing for America, began shipping out of state Union goons to WI, OH and IN to cause trouble and interrupt the way government is supposed to work?
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Blogger Who Prank Called Scott Walker, Now a Media Darling, Has Sordid History

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/02/24/blogger-who-prank-called-scott-walker-now-media-darling-has-sordid-h#ixzz1Eut6ul7S
OxyCon

Blogger Who Prank Called Scott Walker, Now a Media Darling, Has Sordid History
By Lachlan Markay | February 24, 2011 | 16:49
Since lefty blogger Ian Murphy prank called Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker on Wednesday, various media outlets have devoted significant coverage to the prankster. None have seen fit to mention some of Murphy’s more colorful antics – proclaiming “f**k the troops,” for instance, or pretending to be autistic to gain access for a story.

CNN has been out front covering the prank and its perpetrator. The channel named Murphy its “most intriguing person of the day” in one segment, and devoted an article on its website to Murphy’s wild claims – that Walker is “delusional,” as CNN’s headline blared, and that market economics amounts to a “fairy tale.”

In reaching out to Murphy for comment, however, CNN did not see fit to ask him – or even mention in its multiple stories about the prank – that he is not just a “liberal website editor,” but is in fact a radical, foaming-at-the-mouth leftist whose work includes fantasies about killing prominent Republicans and other far-left memes popular during the Bush years.

For a taste of Murphy’s style, observe this excerpt of a 2008 article in the Buffalo Beast headlined “F**k the Troops”:

So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo f**king hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too…

The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bull***t need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. The political left is intent on “supporting” the troops by bringing them home, which is a good thing. But after rightly denouncing the administration’s lies and condemning this awful war, relatively sensible pundits—like Keith Olbermann—turn around and lovingly praise the soldiers’ brave service to the country. Why?

You get the idea.

Many of Murphy’s writings perfectly channeled the attitude of the frantic anti-war left during the Bush years. “If Rove is Bush’s brain,” he wrote in another article, “may the 43rd president be lobotomized before we string him up.”

But don’t worry, Murphy has at least a few qualms with murdering elected officials. “Do I often fantasize of jamming a rusty shiv into the Vice President’s eye socket and twirling it around until he passes out from shock and slowly bleeds to death? Of course,” he wrote in 2007. “Would I do it? No. This author does not torture.” He does, however, engage in some pretty sick homicidal fantasies.

Give these excerpts, you will probably be slightly less surprised – if thoroughly disgusted – to learn that Murphy has posed as a sufferer of Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, in order to gain access to an event he admits he otherwise would not have been able to attend. So the man is shameless, and an unethical journalist.

Yet despite all this, no news outlet that has covered Murphy and his latest antic have bothered looking into his history of absurd and highly-offensive statements and actions. And CNN was not the only one. MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell brought Murphy on air for a 5-minute interview segment. O’Donnell simply labeled him “the editor of Buffalo Beast and the most important phone caller of the day.”

Plenty of other media outlets mentioned Murphy, of course, but all either neglected to sift through his work for the Buffalo Beast, or declined to mention it in their reports.

The left, of course, went gaga over the prank call, and the mainstream press was not about to spoil the fun.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/02/24/blogger-who-prank-called-scott-walker-now-media-darling-has-sordid-h#ixzz1EvGaDHpa
CarmanK

The conversation between Walker and the pretender was very revealing and he really needs to be recalled. But, since they have to wait a year, the recall petitions for the republican senators should begin now. They betrayed their fiduciary responsibility to the people of WI and the constitution of the US. They gave autocratic, dictatorial powers to an incompetent individual over the ENERGY RECOURCES, knowing full well that Walker would use that power to enhance the wealth of the KOCHS and deminish the value of public assets in WI. Walker is not bound to request bids, or seek fair market value for those assets, nor does he have to have public hearings on the disposal of those assets. This is the same crap that Cheney used to reward Halliburtan and friends in Iraq. He contracted work out to incompetent political allies and industry buds. Someone in WI, OH, NJ and FL needs to take an inventory of the states’ assets. Because those republican governors are going to start SELLING off public property like no other time in american history.
CarmanK

OxyCon disparages Murphy, but the story isn’t Murphy: it is WALKER and his plans to betray his responsibilities as governor of the state of WI. Walker was caught and exposed and in this case the truth wins out. Unlike Breitbart who deliberately altered information in order to expand and support a LIE, Murphy just exposed the truth about WALKER in his own words undidacted. TOO bad some creeps just recognize their peers quicker than others. This time, the people are not getting the truth too late to solve the problem of WALKER in office.
Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

Meet Ian Murphy, the liberals new hero.

F**K THE TROOPS

So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo fucking hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.

Read more if you can stomach it here: http://buffalobeast.com/126/Fuck.the.troops.Ian.Murphy.html

Why is the liberal media burying this scumbags history?