when did horshack get elected to congress?

Constantly said:
when did horshack get elected to congress?

LOL…awesome.

I think Weiner has gold poisoning.

King and Weiner aside the big losers in all of this are the 9-11 first responders, and I say that as a friend of one of those first responders.

Shame on congress for not passing this bill.

King’s right, the Dem’s are always trying to skirt procedure because they are afraid for the American people to know where they stand on issues.

MichelleF said:
King’s right, the Dem’s are always trying to skirt procedure because they are afraid for the American people to know where they stand on issues.

Yeah that’s it. They don’t want everyone to know their Communist beliefs.

King is right about Bloomberg:

“At a press conference this morning, Mayor Michael Bloomberg blasted House Democrats for not bringing the 9/11 health care and compensation act up for a traditional, simple-majority vote.

“It’s an outrage,” he said, before The Observer could finish the question. “They should bring it up. A majority of people would vote for this bill and it would pass.”

Democrats have said they’ll bring the $7.4 billion bill to the floor today under the House’s suspension calendar, which could keep unsupportive Republicans from poisoning the bill with unpopular amendments–like, say, ones on abortion and immigration. But it also requires a 2/3 vote for passage.

“They will not get that and they know that. So this is a way to avoid having to make a tough decision,” Bloomberg said. “And I know it’s a tough vote for some people. Hey, I get tough votes every day. I get tough votes with you [the press] every day where you want to know where I stand. I don’t have a lot of sympathy. They should bring this and vote up or down on any amendments. And vote up or down on the bill. And go on the record, and that incidentally, is what the leadership should force.”

Weener wouldn’t know the truth if it hit it square between those beady eyes.

You Right Wing hatemongers, you attack the people that were the heroes of 911 and call the people trying to help them communists you are about the sickest old farts that ever lived , the good news is you’re old

Iris said:
You Right Wing hatemongers, you attack the people that were the heroes of 911

Virus, show me where anyone attacked the 911 responders.

You truly need professional help.

Hemmer nailed them both. “this is why Congress has an 11% approval rating.”

I also find the excuse that the Dems were afraid of amendments to be BOGUS. Amendments are voted on, they aren’t just introduced and by default become part of the bill.

Haimerej said:
Hemmer nailed them both. “this is why Congress has an 11% approval rating.”

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Yep. Congress, both sides, suck. Polls # even lower than Obama’s. But they always are worse then the sitting president.

what the hell is wrong with you republicans? i mean, really? are you so fucking bitter that you can’t support 9/11 first responders? so, even with a simple majority vote, you would STILL vote against it? damn guys…i guess we know where your priorities are.

AngelPeters said:
Yep. Congress, both sides, suck. Polls # even lower than Obama’s. But they always are worse then the sitting president.

That’s because it’s the same old people doing the same old shit and covering each others lame asses on both sides of the aisle and visa versa. Unless or until, (which is doubtful it will every happen in the amount needed), there is young fresh blood intervening, nothing much will really ever change.

Weiner is trying to be frank , but he’s just a brat .

Congress has an approval rating of 11%!!! That HIGH? I’m surprised, Really!
As for Weiner he has gone absolutely bonkers since Beck tied his little diaper in a knot!
All of a sudden the little shit is everywhere, pretending he is important!
Pencil neck geek is weenie!

The Weiner vs King idiocy aside and politics aside, anyone here really against giving 9-11 First responders health care coverage?

How come the issue is getting lost in this BruHaHa?

This is the kind of crap that turns people off of politics.

They take a bill that’s simple and straightforward and then complicate it by doing other things to it, adding in amendments, etc. That way they can say, “So & so didn’t vote for x” when the real reason is because “y was attached to x, and I voted against y.”

Only if the 9/11 heroes were millionaires and billionaires the Republicans would have voted in their favor. (Sigh) Only if they had yachts and fancy art to sell this could help them cover their bills. Well you can always sell your blood but wait our heroes left their blood, sweat, and tears on 9/11/2001.

Refreshing to see an actual brain in action for a few moments. How unAmerican!

When it comes to rants and backroom deals cloaked with over-the-top self-righteousness, it’s hard to out-do the Democrats. But even when measured by the low standards of decorum currently practiced by the American left, Rep. Weiner ends up looking a total fool here.

felixw said:
When it comes to rants and backroom deals cloaked with over-the-top self-righteousness, it’s hard to out-do the Democrats. But even when measured by the low standards of decorum currently practiced by the American left, Rep. Weiner ends up looking a total fool here.

Thankfully the right is a bunch of choirboys! They would never engage in backroom deals or poor decorum! Never!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Only if the 9/11 heroes were millionaires and billionaires the Republicans would have voted in their favor. (Sigh) Only if they had yachts and fancy art to sell this could help them cover their bills. Well you can always sell your blood but wait our heroes left their blood, sweat, and tears on 9/11/2001.

No one is saying any of this. When are we going to start actually paying for the checks we write? When our deficiet is $1.6 trillion? $2 trillion? $3 trillion? These politicians, of both the left an right, need to realize they can’t just write check…but have no money. This bill wasn’t paid for. Where was the money coming from? Obama passed PayGo…why not follow the law he passed.

paulmdoro said:
Thankfully the right is a bunch of choirboys! They would never engage in backroom deals or poor decorum! Never!

Once again you’re right. These partisan hacks of both sides continue to ignore the reality that all are crooks.

More Liberty said:
Once again you’re right. These partisan hacks of both sides continue to ignore the reality that all are crooks.

When someone says something that suggests only the other side is capable of poor ethics or backroom deals or corruption it completely ignores reality, facts, and reason.

More Liberty said:
No one is saying any of this. When are we going to start actually paying for the checks we write? When our deficiet is $1.6 trillion? $2 trillion? $3 trillion? These politicians, of both the left an right, need to realize they can’t just write check…but have no money. This bill wasn’t paid for. Where was the money coming from? Obama passed PayGo…why not follow the law he passed.

Following your logic the Bush Tax cuts also must be paid for. Right?

The Bush Tax Cuts increased revenues to the govt. That’s a fact.

Don’t see how that had to be, “paid for”? New spending is what wasn’t paid for, not the Tax Cuts.

Haimerej said:
The Bush Tax Cuts increased revenues to the govt. That’s a fact.

Don’t see how that had to be, “paid for”? New spending is what wasn’t paid for, not the Tax Cuts.

That is a specious argument the Bush Tax Cuts decreased revenues over what they would have been without the tax cuts… both new spending and the lack of money the govt. receives from the people of America adds to the deficit. If you stop receiving your paycheck you will go into debt and if you spend too much money you will go into debt. The belief is the tax cuts will generate enough jobs and will give the govt. a bigger return. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs… The ipod is made in China I wonder how many jobs would be created if Apple made ipods in America? Yes the rich do care about the average Joe and Jane.

@Haimerej: A tax cut can’t increase revenue to the government. The economic conditions may have produced more taxable income and perhaps an argument could be made that the tax cuts may have been a factor, but if they did help, they would’ve only been one factor in the economic engine.

King is right.

View my interview with Peter King in 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU20y762vQ8

The Odd Couple…..what a movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SikiFIDeLJs

maxine said:
That’s because it’s the same old people doing the same old shit and covering each others lame asses on both sides of the aisle and visa versa. Unless or until, (which is doubtful it will every happen in the amount needed), there is young fresh blood intervening, nothing much will really ever change.

It is difficult for one to be optimistic in this study, the sundry miscreants seem all to rarely taken to task for their misdeeds.

Whether it’s Patrick Kennedy whacked out on drugs and “going to vote on legislation” at 3:00 AM yet never adequately chastized for his irresponsible behavior, William Jefferson being caught flagrante dilecti with $90K in bribe money in his freezer yet somehow escaping a felony conviction, Charles Rangel evading taxes yet being protected by the Black Congressional Caucus, ad nauseum (and please forgive me for not citing any equally egregious acts by Republicans but it’s been a long day and I am old and tired), things don’t change much in DC. Why? It’s us folks–”We the Idiots” put up with it because said miscreants keep on bringing home da po’k.

Ultimately, we are getting exactly what we deserve because our silence implies our consent for these offenses committed against us.

We have three choices:

1. We can become activists before our freedoms to do so are taken from us and then WORK to straighten out our favorite parties.

2. We can invest ourselves into a third party (e.g. Tea Party).

3. We can sit on our asses, watch reruns of our favorite sitcom and drink beer until our brains rot out, and do nothing else until one morning we find ourselves wondering just where the hell did America go.

Of course, there is the option of an armed revolution, but we’d be slaughtered before we got started.

Bottom Line: The fact that “We the Peons” are caused to bicker amongst ourselves while the power brokers do an end run around the Constitution is proof of our collective stupidity. Here’s an example:

Elsewhere on Mediaite are several stories about Chelsea Clinton’s wedding and the fact that it will set the Clintons back a bunch of money and will tie up airspace over some hick town in New York. Judging by the way some are reacting to the story, you’d think someone had used the Magna Carta for toilet paper. Hell, who cares about such a stupid story as this–how can it possibly make any difference to your freedom. But, there you go, arguing about it until you’re blue in the face, calling one another names (like that’s ever going to do any good), and getting your panties in a twist.

SEE HOW YOU’RE BEING PLAYED FOR SUCKERS???

If you’re going to get worked up about something, make that “something” worth your time.

Oh so true. Personally my choice would be armed revolution, but alas this will never be.

After I got out of high school I did a short stint as an aide in my states capitol. Very disheartening to say the least. I saw some young and fresh people with such ideas and ideals, only to fall prey to politics as usual. It really was like banging your head against a brick wall. How long can one do that before they realize it hurts and they must stop? Not long. Either they remove themselves or play ball. The beginning of Innocence lost along with those ideas and ideals.

puck30 said:
1. We can become activists before our freedoms to do so are taken from us and then WORK to straighten out our favorite parties.

We could, but activism only works if your numbers are high, loud and strong. Otherwise your just written off as kooks.

pyrope said:
2. We can invest ourselves into a third party (e.g. Tea Party).

See above.

pyrope said:
3. We can sit on our asses, watch reruns of our favorite sitcom and drink beer until our brains rot out, and do nothing else until one morning we find ourselves wondering just where the hell did America go.

Sadly this is the general choice of the 3 options. Believing we can trust our wonderful gov’t to look out for our interests. Translation: Im to lazy and spoiled, you do it for me.

I don’t personally have the answer for complete change, but I think one way to start, perhaps, would be setting term limits to these seats. Another, the lobbying has to be overhauled. And of course we could go on and on.

Yes, we are being played suckers and it’s not necessarily because we are stupid. It’s largely due to the fact that we are lazy and spoiled.

http://www.fashionshoppong.us/

notsofast said:
King is right about Bloomberg: “At a press conference this morning, Mayor Michael Bloomberg blasted House Democrats for not bringing the 9/11 health care and compensation act up for a traditional, simple-majority vote. “It’s an outrage,” he said, before The Observer could finish the question. “They should bring it up. A majority of people would vote for this bill and it would pass.” Democrats have said they’ll bring the $7.4 billion bill to the floor today under the House’s suspension calendar, which could keep unsupportive Republicans from poisoning the bill with unpopular amendments–like, say, ones on abortion and immigration. But it also requires a 2/3 vote for passage. “They will not get that and they know that. So this is a way to avoid having to make a tough decision,” Bloomberg said. “And I know it’s a tough vote for some people. Hey, I get tough votes every day. I get tough votes with you [the press] every day where you want to know where I stand. I don’t have a lot of sympathy. They should bring this and vote up or down on any amendments. And vote up or down on the bill. And go on the record, and that incidentally, is what the leadership should force.”

I guess I don’t understand exactly how congress works because I agree with Weiner. Regardless of the details and amendments or not, it was the republicans that voted down this bill. If it’s a good bill vote for it, get the 2/3 and move on. Would it be a different bill with a bunch of irrelevent amendments tacked on. If you’re agasint the bill for some reason spell it out and stop whining about procedure. To the Dems, give them the procedure they want, point out any BS amendments, and vote again. It’s done, you vented, move on. If it happens again they’ll have no place to hide.

SEE HOW YOU’RE BEING PLAYED FOR SUCKERS??? If you’re going to get worked up about something, make that “something” worth your time.

Thank you. I appreciated your post and agree. There was a book written years ago {I forget title and author} about the ties between business and government in a large US city. The cirruption was rampant. The author said the only remedy ne saw was to keep voting the corrupt out of office an hope the next person did better.
We need to stop the petty bickering over the latest contrived conflict and focus on serious problems. IMO we need to focus on election finance and possibly term limits to help prevent continued corruption. If people acorss party lines could agree on theses things and insist out perspective officlals back the ideas we might stand a chance, Otherwise, as you said, we get what we deserve because we value entertainment and petty bickering over real effort.