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Jay Carney And ABC’s Jake Tapper In Fiery Exchange Over Jimmy Hoffa Comments

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In the hours since the Jimmy Hoffa Voter Encouragement Crisis/Incendiary Rhetorapocalypse, conservative media figures have looked to the White House to provide some becalming wisdom to a shaken nation. At Tuesday’s White House briefing, ABC’s Jake Tapper asked Press Secretary Jay Carney how Hoffa’s comments fit with the President’s post-Tucson remarks in January.

In case you missed it, Teamsters president James Hoffa (not Jr.) told the crowd at a presidential Labor Day event ““Everybody here’s got a vote,” Hoffa said Monday. “If we go back and we keep the eye on the prize. let’s take these sonofabitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”

The quote has been shortened in many reports to “Let’s take these sons of bitches out,” and held up as an example of the “violent rhetoric” that President Obama forswore in the wake of the Tucson shooting tragedy.

Hoffa’s remarks are the toast of a bone-dry post-Labor Day news cycle, so Carney had to expect questions about it. The briefing was pushed back an hour-and-a-half, time likely spent fine-tuning for an already important messaging day.

The first reporter to ask about Hoffa’s remarks was ABC’s Jake Tapper, who pressed Carney on the President’s January call for civility, and in a heated exchange, tried to get Carney to set a standard for surrogate quote-ownership for the 2012 campaign.

Tapper began by reading President Obama’s January quote, then asked, “Did he mean that?”

Here’s a transcript of the rest of the exchange: (via Mediaite transcription)

Jay Carney: Of course he did.

Jake Tapper: Then, where do the comments by the Teamsters president fit in with that?

Jay Carney: First of all, those weren’t comments by the President. Secondly, as I think it’s been reported…

Jake Tapper: …comments by a union leader, at an event that President Obama spoke at…

Jay Carney: I understand that there is a ritual in Washington that, you know, somebody says something, and you link the associations, and then everybody who has an association with him or her has to avow or disavow. The President wasn’t there, he wasn’t on the stage, he didn’t speak for another twenty minutes, he didn’t hear it. I really don’t have any comment beyond that.

Jake Tapper: Okay, well, some of us covered the campaign, and recall a time when somebody made some harsh comments about then-Senator Obama during the introduction at a McCain rally, and the Obama campaign was offended, and expected an apology, Senator McCain came out and did so.

Jay Carney: Mr. Hoffa speaks for himself, he speaks for the labor movement, AFL-CIO. The President speaks for himself, I speak for the President. What the President was glad to do yesterday was the opportunity to present his views on the importance of working Americans, and on the importance of taking measures to help working Americans, to create jobs and grow the economy.

Jake Tapper: So the precedent you’re setting right now for the 2012 election is, the Republican candidates are the ones to pay attention to. Those who introduce them at rallies, their surrogates, we don’t have to pay attention to anything that they say.

Jay Carney: Jake, I think I’ve said what I can say…

Jake Tapper: Is that the standard now?

Jay Carney: (inaudible)

Jake Tapper: I’d rather not have to do this Washington kabuki every time something happens, but if that’s the standard, if that’s the standard…

Jay Carney: The standard is we should focus on the actions we can take to grow the economy and create jobs, instead of focusing on kabuki theater.

Fred Lucas: Does the President find the comments appropriate?

Jay Carney: Can we move on?

Carney’s response is generally in line with that of DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz earlier today: without endorsing Hoffa’s remarks, each steered well clear of anything that could be considered an apology, or even a denunciation. Carney’s response is sure to draw ire from conservatives, but liberals will likely cheer the unspoken subtext: no more Mr. Nice Guy.

Here’s video of the exchange, from The White House:


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNIIHAE5G3O5HMBOZFAZZWK3YY aa

    This Administration and the head of that Serpent are disgusting.

  • Anonymous

    Bravo Jake Tapper for calling out President Double Standard

  • Darladoon

    there’s our brilliant, inquisitive “liberal” washington press corps, helping to keep
    our “leaders” in check with perfectly relevant, insightful lines of questioning….

    aces tapper!

  • Anonymous

    Carney’s response is sure to draw ire from conservatives, but liberals
    will likely cheer the unspoken subtext: no more Mr. Nice Guy.

    OK Tommy as long as the press treats BOTH sides evenly while there not playing “Mr. Nice Guy”.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Carney , just how drunk was Junior Hoffa ?

    What about Biden – calling the opposition “barbarians” and agreeing that they are  “terrorists” and ” hostage takers” ? Was he drunk .too ?

    What about Maxine Waters’ and Andre Carson’s scurrilous remarks ?

    Mr. Carney , does Obama want to” take those son of a bitches out ” ?

  • Anonymous

    So now we know this Cancer-in-the-White-House’s standards: if he didn’t say it, he didn’t hear it.

    Sort of an addendum to the Jeremiah Wright “White People Are Devils” speech that The Emperor’s New Clothes heard for 20 years: if he didn’t say it, he didn’t hear it.

    So since that is the new standard, I heard today that a Republican said that we should take “take this effin’ White House out” of office in 2012.

    Sounds about right, eh?

    Since I didn’t say it, I didn’t hear it, and by the new Obama Standard, I cannot denounce it.

  • Johnny Manana

    TomTom’s next column – Jack Tapper Should RESIGN for this unprecedented insult to the President

  • Lukeatomic8

    Wait, Hoffa speaks for the AFL-CIO now? Well, good for him.

  • Wake up America

    Pure hypocrisy! Not even 20 minutes had passed when gabby was shot in Arizona and the left came out strong and crucified Palin! However the left are held to different standards. They can say or do anything and because they have the Hugo Chavez media they can and do get away with everything. If this doesn’t open your eyes to what is happening to this nation then we’re done. Because if Obama gets four more years then Obama will become king and will control us like one.

  • Anonymous

    Watch your back, Jake.

  • Anonymous

    “…but liberals will likely cheer the unspoken subtext: no more Mr. Nice Guy.”

    And conservatives are snickering and guffawing over how today’s progressives can dish it out but can’t take it.

  • Richie

    It was stupid for Hoffa to make these comments just as it was stupid for Palin to use crosshairs targeting Gabby Giffords or to suggest that Obama was palling around with terrorists. It is a bipartisan issue. People make mistakes using overheated rhetoric on both the Left and Right. Hoffa should apologize for making those remarks just as the next Republican should apologize when they use inappropriate rhetoric. End of story.  

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, you are so lost in Socialism/Marxis hate you can even take some mirror jabs from Jake Tapper to your god like worship of Obama.

    When i come to this site, i make it a 1st look for your name on a story, because i know you will go off on anything against your messiah, Obama.

    I lost ALL respect for Major Garret , when the trurth of who he was came out in your multi-part interview.  Any long term friend of you, (family exculed, their related to you) should be viewed as farer left than Jimmy Jr. . I think you and Micheal Moore can still go do Cuba a lot of good destroying anything left ther.

  • Anonymous

    If there was any doubt that Tommy and Jay coordinate their talking points, it was wiped out when reading the articles today that TC has written to defend Hoffa and what might be said and who might say it, and all that jazz.  TC, mediaite’s Obama spokesman, aka member of today’s White Hosue Press Corp(se).

    So funny.

    One standard for republicans, another for democrats and left wing media is just fine and dandy with it.

  • Anonymous

    LOLOLOLOL!

  • R_cox85

    kudos to Jack Tapper for doing his job. I wish the rest of the journalists would hold this administration accountable for their actions.

  • R_cox85

    kudos to Jack Tapper for doing his job. I wish the rest of the journalists would hold this administration accountable for their actions.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, Tapper is about the only real journalist left at ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, Tapper is about the only real journalist left at ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Sure seems like the Teamsters union has placed a target on the backs of Tea Party voters.

  • Anonymous

    Sure seems like the Teamsters union has placed a target on the backs of Tea Party voters.

  • Anonymous

    White House: Standards for thee, but not for me.

  • Anonymous

    It is not Obama’s obligation to respond to what Hoffa said.  He has repeatedly asked for civility and if he responds to one comment he will be forced to respond to all.
    Hoffa is responsible for his own comments.

    That being said, if Obama is true to his word, he should not appear with Hoffa again unless he walks back those remarks.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a real big fan of Tapper, but he asked a question that seems to have popped up a lot on the blogs. Therefore I think a good portion of the country wants the answer.

  • ur mom

    wow what a hypocrite and  thug u are, go to a banana republic country

  • Bohratom

    Hey, I’m all for the new standard that the President is setting in which anything said by a surrogate has nothing to do with him. Just remember that when a negative comment is said about the president or democrats and they want their apology. We can now just point to this episode and stick our tongues out.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, if I were Tapper, I’d make sure my resume was updated- he’s gone off the reservation one too many times for the network/Obama White House connection. I’d bet there were lots of emails & tweets- sent from “off-campus” sites (so that they’re not discoverable under a FOIA request)- from the WH to ABC.

    That pain between your shoulder blades, Jake, is NOT a pulled muscle, but rather a stiletto in your back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Dixon/100000275674123 Joe Dixon

    So, is it now okay for Tapper to omit the “everybody here’s got a vote” part of the sentence?

  • Anonymous

    Tapper is one of the last non-Presstitutes left at the big 3 networks.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t “unspoken subtext” another way of saying “code words” and “dogwhistles”?  Tommy has lectured us that those are very bad things.

  • Anonymous

    It does reflect on the White House (as did the comments by Biden and even the CBC).  Why?  Because it shows he tacitly accepts this rhetoric.  It is clear from watching everything that this President does, that he is not the President of the entire United States.  He only presides over and protects the interest of people who agree with his ideology.  Everyone else is either nothing or an enemy to him.  That is NOT how a POTUS should act.  It is one thing to remain true to one’s beliefs while in office and it is another thing to stand so hard ideologically that you alienate at least half the citizenry and don’t even care.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention Tapper’s blatant racism.

  • Anonymous

    I’m concerned about the damage that Obama and his minions will do between the election and his leaving the White House- it will make the Clintons look like they’re Buddhist monks.

  • Anonymous

    That was the most pathetic performance I have ever seen from a Presidential press secretary.

    Another Obama first.

  • Anonymous

    The stardard for the racist, douchebag Barack Hussein Obama ll and his democrat party is that there are no standards, nor level of depravation this piece of garbage, his surrogates in the MSM, corrupt unions and the degenerate liberal on the street are willing and eager to lower themselves to.

  • Anonymous

    Holding my breath for Tommy’s article where he pokes fun of Hoffa’s thin skin at being criticised.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62726.html
    By Maggie Haberman

    “Sarah Palin is taking to her Facebook page to slam Jim Hoffa, the Teamsters president, for his call to “take these son-of-a-bitches out” in reference to the tea party:
    “What I say now, I say as a proud former union member and the wife, daughter, and sister of union members. So, as a former card-carrying IBEW sister married to a proud former Laborers, IBEW, and later USW member, please hear me out. What I have to say is for the hard working, patriotic, selfless union brothers and sisters in Michigan and throughout our country: Please don’t be taken in by union bosses’ thuggery like Jim Hoffa represented yesterday. Union bosses like this do not have your best interests at heart. What they care about is their own power and re-electing their friend Barack Obama so he will take care of them to the detriment of everyone else.To the same degree Americans are concerned about irresponsible, greedy corporate execs who got cushy bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailouts, we should also be concerned about greedy union bosses who are willing to tank our economy just to protect their own power. As union history shows, power and greed corrupt. Just because you claim to represent union members doesn’t mean you are on the side of the angels. The greed of too many of these union bosses has all but destroyed the labor movement in this country, helped chase away our jobs, and is killing the American dream.”"Her full post, which is quite long, is here. But she uses her slams to pivot back toward lines like “crony capitalism” from her speech in Iowa last weekend.”Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62726.html#ixzz1XD4O3GCE

  • Anonymous

    I think Little Jay Carney might reach his boiling point soon and flee to the safety of some Publick Skool administrator’s role. Like Little Bobby Gibbs did.

  • Anonymous

    **BREAKING NEWS***

    Tommy Christopher of Mediaite is busy defending what Hoffa said as being blown out of proportion and not a big deal!!! Oh wait, I guess that isn’t breaking news….in fact that isn’t even something new!! Tommy is always the little protector of what vile liberals say!

  • Anonymous

    Like a deer in headlights. The left media will hide it and never talk about it but will report on the idiots that yell the tea party is racist. 
    I cant believe this country is sooooo stupid and people that still think Obama is doing a good job!  I guess ignorance is bliss.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t bother…it won’t happen. Only Conservatives are thin skinned in hypocritical liberal land!

  • http://twitter.com/lazzzlo lazzzlo

    Agreed; that’s a fair assessment.  I’d like to see the standard apply to both sides.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if double standard Tommy would be in full defender mode of the Tea Party if they said to the unions that they were going to those sonofabitches out and give America back to America where we belong?

    I bet not!!

  • JohnJGuy

    Is it really necessary to try the upmost to try and build a head of steam about something so inconsequential. I thought the economy was centre stage.
    Everyone wants to regard this as serious politics? I thought there were more serious issues rather than the usual over the top rhetoric and childish irrelevancies. 
    Another day in attempts for the reduction and trivializing of US Politics.

  • Tom

    Carney is so full of sh—-when he says, “First of all, those weren’t comments by the President,” as if anyone did and as if that’s what the president was talking about in January – he was not describing his OWN WORDS for crying out loud – or admonishing against them – liberals: HOW STOOOOPID ARE YOU that you buy this crap? Have you gone completely insane? Can you no longer even display an OUNCE of reason and say look, it was not a good way to intro the president and he could have done well to address this? Is there ANY common sense left in your feeble little minds? CANNOT WAIT TIL 2012 ELECTIONS – Obama wont just lose – he’s gonna lose UGLY – leaving all you groupie a-holes to cry in your pomagranite juice and arugula.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, the eternal Zenlike question- “If a Democrat verbally incites violence and no one in the Left-wing media reports it, did he really say it?”

  • Anonymous

    Palin didn’t use overheated rhetoric. I can’t remember the last time a prominent Republican did.

    Yet them darn Dims just keep on doing it and doing it.

    How bout them Dims!

  • Norbit

    I can’t believe that the Democrats, after they made such an issue over civility-in-politics, won’t condemn both this guy, and the Black Caucus bomb-throwers.

    Do today’s Democrats have any principles at all, or do they just sell-out to anyone who’ll keep them in power? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    No Christopher – the unspoken subtext is not “No more Mr. Nice Guy”.  The actual read should be “Don’t piss off labor union by criticizing asshole representative”.

    That’s what this is all about and the cowards over at the DNC don’t have the balls to admit it.

  • Dflojak

    go back to bed darlaloon, your meds are wearing off. What a douche

  • Anonymous

    “I see….so…if we were to say the same thing about the liberal wing of the democrat party….I would be OK…right….EVERYONE will be OK.
    Alright then…..LET’S WORK HARD TO TAKE THOSE SUM’BITCHE’S DOWN….

  • Rudyard1

    Violent political rhetoric wasn’t irrelevent a little while back. Now its “irrelevent”. Right.

    It may be a simple matter of political expedience to you, but many Americans took the president at his word when they call for civility. One thing I can guarantee – alot fewer will take his, or any other liberal’s word, word at face value the next time.And thats a very good thing.

  • Norbit

    LMAO!

    Lost in all of this is Obama’s call (LMAO!) to (LMAO!) WORK TOGETHER!!

    LMFAO!!!

  • Tedderman

    Did you notice how many time Tapper ends his sentence with a preposition, man, what a goob.

  • Dflojak

    EVERY republican has to apologize for questioning the legitimacy of this president, and is immediately branded a racist if they don’t bow down to his excellency, but Obama doesn’t have to even acknowledge Hoffa, he wasn’t there when it was said. please. The hypocrisy grows with every passing day.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is a one trick pony. Demonize your opponents ! Call them names…but insist on their civility toward you. Community organizers only know how to do one thing. 
    Tapper keeps on asking Carney about “Pot, meet Kettle”. But Carney denies everything. 
    Such candor, such a great example for the country when instead of talking about solutions, plans..you know what kind of stuff you should do…Obama. Hoffa, Biden all talk like wanna be dictators or gangsters.
    Can’t wait for the jobs speech.

  • JohnJGuy

    It seems everyone would much rather spend their time being extremely angry…rather than take a good and serious look at the issues facing the country. 
    It’s irrelevant, because it serves no purpose.I’ve no interest in the rhetoric that’s being espoused, exactly who does it benefit?…No one!

  • Yukon Jack

    Jake Tapper is history as of September 8th, 2011. 

  • Anonymous

    Liberals and BHO supporters can do no wrong. This WH is loath to admit they ever do anything wrong.

  • Dflojak

    Does anybody ever remember ANY other president that spent so much time talking, and so much time with partisan rhetoric blaming the other party like this guy does. He’s been blaming everybody for his inabilities since he took office, but the constant barrage of hate filled whining is just getting pathetic. What exactly are democrats and progressives responsible for, or is it that they just don’t actually do anything.

  • Tom

    oh, and Obama skipped out on commenting why there were ZERO jobs friday just cuz, well, cuz, y’know, cuz like, y’know, whatever, like, uh. yeah… Memo to idiot libs – we get that you all got suckered three years ago – but come on – wake up – yes you were sort of douchey before obama – but this is a whole new level – you’ve all become super douches” – but it’s not too late – come on – look how stupid they are making you look, this adin – stupider than you really are – WHICH IS ALREADY PRETTY STUPID

  • JohnJGuy

    There’s a lot of anger on this thread. 

    …All very productive of course. 

  • Tom

    and a lot of realism, too – one thing I thank obama for – he’s made the idiots so much easier to see – Q – Did you vote for Obama? A – Yes.  Q – Then you’re an idiot.

  • JadedbyPolitics

    4 years ago not one media person would have asked, not one alphabet media would have shown it, new media is here and quite like Alinsky it is making them live up to their own “morals”….a new day is dawning lefties and We The People of the TEA Party Movement are writing the rules!

  • Tom

    Q-Then you’re an idiot?
    A -uh, halliburton, faux news and sarah palin. oh, and uh unions!

  • Texan

    You couldn’t defend the carney or obama so you had to make a personal attack, a baseless one at that, on tapper? Freakin’ weak.

  • Amazed.

    I was amazed at the Drew Carey resemblance too.

  • Amazed.

    I was amazed at the Drew Carey resemblance too.

  • Anonymous

    Did Tommy really edit out Hoffa’s mention of “we are your army” “we are at war”????  No wonder he didn’t think Hoffa’s comments weren’t incendiary or anything.

    So funny, the depths to which the left will go to circle the wagon around other lefties.

  • DietCokeHead

    Yes, those “Oh so nice” liberals are their goonion thug friends. Seriously, how insane is it that liberals think they’re nice people?  I’m at the point now where if the Independent voters can’t see through this BS, i’m perfectly fine with giving democrats back majorities in both houses and Urkel another 4 years. You have to hit rock bottom at some point, so we might as well sit back and fire this sucker directly into the sun.

  • Anonymous

    When it’s a comment that’s used while introducing him, and he’s repeatedly calling for putting politics aside and working together, yeah, he can’t just blow it off. It’s not just any comment.

    “President Obama, this is your army and we’re ready to march.”

    Better get that mop out, Barack.

  • Anonymous

    When it’s a comment that’s used while introducing him, and he’s repeatedly calling for putting politics aside and working together, yeah, he can’t just blow it off. It’s not just any comment.

    “President Obama, this is your army and we’re ready to march.”

    Better get that mop out, Barack.

  • Nature Freak

    Jimmy Hoffa was correct in what he said when you listen to the unedited version.

    The left does play Mr. or Ms. Nice Guy way to much.

    There is nothing wrong at this point with some righteous non violent anger from the left. We need more of this. Conservatives are trying to intimidate and scare anyone who disagrees with them. Sometimes you have to “fight” (metaphorically speaking) back against bullies. As I said, in another thread, my disappointment is not at Hoffa, but is in President Obama trying to be overly civil and calm rather than being righteously aggressive. Obama needs to have a little more “eye of the tiger” at this point. Obama needs to explain to the American people what the tea baggers and the radical right are all about. And President Obama needs to articulate better to the American people his accomplishments thus far.

    Conservatives want Democrats and the center left to be passive and overly civil. Conservatives don’t play by these rules themselves, so they know they will have an advantage.

    Fight fire with fire. Non violently.

  • Anonymous

    One of the serious issues with the country is that our POTUS is a two-faced hypocrite. We should talk about that.

  • DietCokeHead

    Ehh, they’re an ever dwindling minority. Obama has 12% of the country who would cheer him on as he pooped on their couch, and he’s got an a mostly adoring press propping him up. Also you have to take into account “white guilt” which probably infects about 20-25% of our idiotic population(see the % of americans who claim to be “liberal”).

    It takes awhile to break through those massive reality road blocks. Fortunately it looks like the Great Wall of Ignorance is on it’s way to the ground.

  • DietCokeHead

    Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

    You and the rest of your liberal friends don’t care about rhetoric, unless it’s something you can use to advance your childish leftwing agenda.

  • Anonymous

    but liberals will likely cheer the unspoken subtext: no more Mr. Nice Guy.

    Fucking hypocrites is more like it.

    I’d like to personally thank all you leftists for pulling the mask off and revealing your true duplicitous, lowly selves to the rest of the country.

    The White House Press ferret and DWS have failed miserably today and you Leftists have run out of your dirty tricks. 

  • Anonymous

    WAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I rode Tapper hard during the 2008 Primary and I’m proud of the fact that he has become a respectable journalist. I also rode Ben Smith pretty hard and he has made a big turn around in his reporting.

    Tommy? IDK about him. He just keeps doubling down on stupid, probably because he began his “career” as a partisan blog commenter and doesn’t have any journalistic integrity to begin with.

  • Darkchocolate70

    F’g UNIONS THUGs just put the LAST NAIL in the coffin of Obama’s election campaign!

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations! You’re a bigger man than Obama!

  • Anonymous

    You sound like you’re hoping for violence. Because the Dims and Obama don’t really have anymore room to go to rhetorically. They have used every insult and intimidation possible without violence.

    Once violence starts, there may be no way to put the genie back in the bottle. And the lefties would not win that fight anyway.

    They lack guts.

    Careful what you wish for.

  • Anonymous

    You do know that Hoffa is a frequent White House visitor who sits on some comittee Obama created and that he also flew to the event in question on Air Force One at Obama’s invitation.

  • http://www.jewpoint.blogspot.com JPeditor

    After Hoffa’s threats Obama said HE WAS PROUD OF HOFFA. Jay Carney is a lying POS.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! Obama is dividing the country along racial and economic lines as you would expect an Alinsky Community Agitator to do.

  • Anonymous

    Fiery debate…seriously? We’ve had a more fiery debate at the dinner table over who gets the last pork chop.

  • Anonymous

    Like I said yesterday…good luck calling for unity on Thursday night when you don’t have the balls to condemn the leftist violent rhetoric, Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I remember those days, lol!

  • Valkyrie101

    Motivated labor can only help Obama, not hurt him.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    Obama no more needs to apologize for Hoffa’s comment, than Rick Perry would have needed to apologize for anything those religious nutters said at that recent evangelical rally.  

  • Anonymous

    Poor little baggers cry when people push back

  • Anonymous

    Upon further thought…this is really bad for the Dems. First, the hate message steps all over the up coming jobs speech. 
    Second, BHO could have spoken about all the UAW jobs saved, along with GM ect. Not too popular in many parts of America, but appreciated mid west. Instead BHO is following the Wisconsin model, and look how well that has worked out for the Dems.Now, Hoffa and the Teamsters were the least objectionable union in America. It was telling that the keynote was not from the leader of a public employee union nor UAW.  Hoffa and his rank and file union members will have made far more enemies than friends with this speech. 

  • Valkyrie101

    In fact they routinely say stuff like that to the unions.

  • Hooligan

    oba’mao’ shoe shiners and jock sniffers in full back pedal, debbie washhisass smultz is an absolute joke, and you libs actually call Bachman and Palin dumb, how embarrassing that the democrats put up washisass shults, maxine waters, michelle oba’mao’, and hillery as bastions of smart, hahahahahahah

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSPIVAFYI672OH5NOKVRTEZA4U MadCharles

    Why can’t they just take responsibility ? sad

  • Anonymous

    Actually we’re laughing our asses off.

  • Anonymous

    Spot on, he truly is the leader and only cares about the special interests: unions, elite lawyers, greens, blacks, Hollywood and Wall Street: that fund his political operation. Exactly the behavior you see from a community organizer. Even worse, he is incapable of understanding the ramifications of this behavior- because he lives in the MSM bubble of NYC-DC and has no experience dealing with it.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. He’s following the manual.

  • Cecelia

    Oh, yeah…   It actually makes sense that liberal politicians and their media buds would have done a month long vigil of tearing their garments over inflammatory speech and symbols as offered by Palin and Bachmann (even linking Palin to the assault on Rep. Giffords), only to now justify their own wrathful rhetoric as being the proper vehicle of a very righteous indignation, as well as a groovy indication that the president is getting some cajones.

    Sheesh..

  • Norbit

    Hey Carney,

    Is there any possible way Hoffa can cover for you on vacation week?

  • Anonymous

    They’re going to be more motivated then they were in 2008?

  • Anonymous

    Obama has awakened the sleeping giant that IS the Tea Party by ostensibly endorsing Haffa’s foul mouthed manifesto. Looks like Obama is going to be the one ‘Taken Out’…just like yesterdays garbage…LOL

  • Anonymous

    Wish Carney had just asked Tappe 2 questions:

    r ” What do you sons-o-bitchs have against a good get out the vote message?” 

    2. “Have you sons-o-bitchs cover the DECEPTIVE & DISHONEST editing & LYING of Mr. Hoffa’s remarks by Fux…. and the regurgitation of that DISHONESTY by the rest of the Reich-wing hate-mongers?”

  • Wake up America

    Well was it considered stupid when the original users of crosshairs were in fact the democrats when running against republicans. Bottom line, the democrates have targeted the tea party because they cannot defend Obama’ s incompetence as a leader. He is a one man wreaking ball and had to be painted as a “brilliant” man because the facts are now showing that he is anything but. So look for this retoric to heat up even more, because Obama can no longer run with Flowery speeches, and smoke and mirriors, but more so the “community organizer” to which he feels more at home with. Evident with aligning himself with the union thugs.

  • Cecelia

    Oh they’re paragons of moral introspection, aren’t they?

    There’s no end to their fearless moral self-inventories is there?  Such as when they did a weeks long self-flagellation over their having failed to enshrine Keynesian economics as unassailable truth in the public mind,

    They’re so hard on themselves…

  • Anonymous

    So, how much involvement in this does Hoffa, Obama, Waters, et al have?  How about TC?  Is he involved in producing this, making money from it, or anything at all?

    New online game: “Tea Party Zombies Must Die”

    h/t hotair.

  • Anonymous

    I wish Carney had too. It would have garnered a million more votes for the Republican Party.

  • Wake up America

    Intelligence at it’s finest! Obama voter, sounds about right

  • Wake up America

    Basically, Obama’s balls are in their hands. Oh I mean balls in Obama’s court! Freudian slip!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    The standards and rules our media and Democrat party hold Republicans to was never meant to applied to themselves. If you haven’t figured this out yet, you haven’t been playing attention. Look at the way TC desperately tries to down play the comments. He’s been at it for days now. He did not do the same for Palin or Bachman or any of the “conservatives” who TC has attacked. Have you also noticed that in TC’s world only conservatives are ever upset about the BS this administration pulls? 

  • Anonymous

    When the baggers apologize for the racist comments against Black people and the President then maybe Hoffa should apoligize for not calling baggers something worse.

  • Anonymous

    When the baggers apologize for the racist comments against Black people and the President then maybe Hoffa should apoligize for not calling baggers something worse.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Wake up America

    Oh by the way, Thrusday speech will be. “REPUBICANS FAULT” They did it! Obama has been voting present for almost three years so it can’t be his fault! Blame the Repubicans for everthing that’s gone wrong. However, Obama did kill Osama.

  • Cecelia

    I suppose it makes sense to you that liberals would condemn inflammatory by opponents, and then suggest that the same standard is unfair when applied to themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy Christopher: “Everybody here’s got a vote,” Hoffa said Monday

    Thought I’d repeat that in case some of you didn’t catch the preface to the sonuvabitch comment that Tommy’s been pounding home in several columns he’s written since this happened as he tries to run interference for the liberals’ favorite puppet.

  • Anonymous

    It is Bush’s fault.  Truth

  • Anonymous

    …and he stopped the sea from rising too…oh wait…no he didn’t…never mind…LOL

  • Cecelia

    I don’t think Palin or Hoffa have said or done anything over the top. 

    Of course, with Hoffa’s there is a humorous irony in the fact that with his background you do imagine a horse head showing up in the beds of his political opponents…

    Frankly, if we’re going to censor speech that only a mad man might misconstrue, simply because there are mad men… then let’s just put bullet proof Michelin tires around everyone  and

  • Wake up America

    I beg to differ, you included “blacks” Obamacares only for their votes. Kinda like OJ, he became black for the first time when he was on trail, that’s when he, used, I mean needed them. Obama hasn’t done anything for blacks, in fact theyre in a worst economic situation then under Bush. Obama doesn’t even give them the respect of going to their neighborhoods, why, because he knows they will vote for him no matter what. The epitome of using his own race, well half of it. I’m thinking the white half of him is in fact a racist.

  • Darkchocolate70

    Prove a single racist comment made by a tea party member.

  • Darkchocolate70

    Prove a single racist comment made by a tea party member.

  • Darkchocolate70

    Without getting near 90% of black votes and at least 75% of Union votes Democrats are FINISHED as a political party.  Both of these entities total about 20% of voters that Democrats NEED or they are DONE.

    Democrats know it.  Liberals will do ANYTHING and spend any amount of money keeping the support of these two groups.

  • Anonymous

    As Tapper stated, McCain apologized for disrespectful comments made in a similar situation, because it was the right thing to do.  I just have to wonder what moral code democrats follow here, it sure is of the ‘do as i say, not as I do’ variety.   Tapper shows what real reporters are supposed to do.

  • Darkchocolate70

    Obama cut his legal teeth suing Banks to force them to make risky loans to poor people that could not afford the homes they wanted to buy.

    Now Obama’s administration is suing those same Banks for making those risky loans….

    Unbelievable…

  • Anonymous

    fantastic comment.  Both insightful and LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Tapper was the ONLY reporter calling Obama out on his rank hypocrisy–so much for any shred of honesty among the ”press corp.”

    Where oh where is the new ‘civility’ democrats whined about earlier this year?  What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy and Carney should watch clips from Tony Snow’s days in the job.  He was both a strong voice for the white house, and a respectful pubic servant.  That’s what you are supposed to do in the world’s greatest democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, boy that stupid blog on blogspot that some kook (you?) started explains it all, probably. :)

  • Anonymous

    That’s all leftists have to offer–violent threats and ad hominem attacks.  Other than that there’s no ‘there’ there.

  • Anonymous

    yes, as was done under Bush, Clinton, HW Bush, Reagan, etc.   You know, journalism…

  • Anonymous

    “Nice guy?”  You mean when Obama exhorted his followers to “…bring a gun to a knife fight?”

    Obama’s just a common Chicago community-organizer thug.  Nothing more.

  • reasonablevoice

    Why is the ire when the right wing rhetoric reaches racist or hate speech. Obviously, this quote was taken out of context to drum up controversy in the media so that pundits have something to talk about. Is Hoffa’s comments as offensive with the pictures of Obama with a bone through his nose shown at tea party rallies. How about this! Obama will rebuff Hoffa, when Beck, Limbaugh and all the other right wing elk denounce their questionable comments, sayings, or quotes. I smell hypocrites. 

  • Anonymous

    Wow. Were you like dropped on your head when you were young?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3IUFK7IGKMVVWGIQ5FHGJFP64 Jack Robbins

    LOL! You used “moral code” and “democrats” in the same sentence.

  • Anonymous

    You either were born under  a rock, or you have a VERY short memory.

    In the fall of 2008, John McCain was introduced by a radio talk shown host named Billy Cunningham.  Cunningham said something so “obscene” about Barack Obama, that the Obama campaign demanded an apology from John McCain.  McCain obliged.

    What did Cunningham say that was so offensive?  He said “Barack Hussein Obama”.  Just using his full name, Obama to it as a slight and demanded that McCain apologize.

    Obama can accept an introduction from a duche-bag who talks about going to war and taking out the sons of a bitch, and says nothing.

    Pure class, that guy.  Pure class.

  • Quink2011

    Jake….it appears that you might be growing a pair.  Finally asking some questions instead of being the usual white house stenographer

  • Chucker

    If ignorance were truly bliss, liberals would be much happier.

  • Anonymous

    no, actually he looked good with the bone in his nose – a picture is way different than threatening to take down a bunch of people who actually are the working people in this country……..  you must be graduate of one of those liberal schools that doesn’t teach logic or reasoning – just Alinksky’s Rules for Radicals – no wonder you can’t get a job – see soros – he’s always looking for crap droppers on every blog

  • ganymede

    Tapper is a good middle of the road journalist and I respect him for that. What’s more interesting is the firestorm that’s blown up over Hoffa’s remarks. When the history of this time is written it’s going to be the story of a moderate President who bent over backwards to be a nice guy and try to bring us all together. The invective and scorn that’s been heaped on this guy from the right far exceeds anything thrown at Bush, and Bush deserved all he got because of his total mismanagement of our country and the crimes against humanity he was responsible for. 
    Now you have a problems when a tough union guy talks tough. Rightwingers are really a bunch of pussies. Most of us on the left don’t have guns and eschew violence. Most of the domestic violence in recent years has come from the right. The problem is you want to take over this country and you don’t have a clue of what must be done to get us out of this mess. Obama is no genius either but the Dems do have a few workable ideas, but you are doing everything to bring down Obama and, unfortunately, you’re wrecking the whole country in the process. Hoffa is an old-style, relatively honest union leader and I applaud him for taking the lead in what I hope is going to be a more forceful and maybe productive time for our country. It would be a different story if you actually had real, practical ideas of what what needs to be done, but after listening to Palin, Bachmann, Romney and now the biggest fraud of them all, Perry, it’s clear that the rightwing and Tea Partiers have noting to offer but more good Christian pain and misery. 

  • Anonymous

    PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCES MORE KEY ADMINISTRATION POSTS

    WASHINGTON – Today, President Barack Obama announced his intent to appoint the following individuals to key administration posts:

    James P. Hoffa, Member, Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations

  • Anonymous

    They can’t – they just like to throw out stupid crap like that becuz some one will read it and OMG – lies, more lies, and damm lies – progs just can’t help themselves………………….. they can’t handle the truth…

  • Anonymous

    Ok ,This tread been going now for 3 hours.  Beside Nature boy And Trose1.(watch your backs boys) No other people have been here who lean to the left. What did you right wingers do to all the Dems?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    The point of political speech is “to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” -George Orwell. I used to think Carney was a pussy, but now I see he’s just a tool that would take it up the butt in prison for Obama if it came down to it. Sorry for being graphic but it had to be said.

  • JohnJGuy

    ‘You and the rest of your liberal friends don’t care about rhetoric, unless it’s something you can use to advance your childish leftwing agenda.’
    ….Childish Left Wing Agenda?Where exactly ‘DietCokeHead’ did you find that piece of rhetorical nonsense? Actually, I think I just answered my own question. Yes, that’s exactly right. It’s all about coming up with conspiratorially plans and schemes to advance an agenda…

    …Okay. I must get a handle bar mustachio to twirl and to look the part. You clearly need someone to look the bad guy.

  • Anonymous

    They’re taking a sick day. Reality-induced depression. It’s sad, really.

  • Anonymous

    Wishful thinking. Is that a pancake on you guinea pigs head in you avatar?

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    Tea Party members say this type of stuff all the time and they’re finally getting their own medicine returned to them.

  • Wake up America

    Yes because he’ s counting on them to help him steal the election. Thuggery at it’s finest!

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    Jay, don’t give in to the tea party press!!

  • Wake up America

    Of course, because Bush still is in power. What was I thinking! Obama is on the golf course or on vacation all the time, throwing parties, drinking fine wine, expensive dinners, etc. Obama gets the paycheck, but Bush gets the blame. So you just might be right! Kinda like the union bosses, they get all the money and the labors that work hard, get the middle finger.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see why the WH should have to apologize for Hoffa’s remarks…after all, what did he say that was so bad? Obviously, by “take out”, he didn’t mean kill or assassinate, he meant kick them out of Washington, which any idiot can understand, if they read it in context. Besides, I’ve heard worse from both sides, and this will be forgotten in a week or so, when someone one-ups Hoffa. It’s just sad and pathetic, and shows that it’s been a pretty slow news week, politically anyway.

  • bhodie

    Tapper is pissed that the lady got the Sunday morning show and he didn’t–he  has been trying to get attention ever since….Get over yourself Jakie…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BRXW5XYRDYVA5F6J2TDPC3CQEI gbearc

    You’ve got to be effing kidding. Mr Nice Guy? Obama has been nothing but a grade A douchebag. He talks all togetherness but then spits in the Republican’s faces. Time and time again he is snide and nasty out of one side of his mouth while preaching sweetness and light out of the other. Remember him calling the House Repubs in to reach a compromise on the budget? He brought in Ryan and sat him front and center for his speech and then ripped Ryan a new one. President D-bag in action.

  • C.K

    Did Sarah Palin apologize for her target practice “take-em-out” website scheme? 
    These people will complain about Hoffa’s comments without even hearing the entire context, and then go cheer when a conservative uses the same kind of aggressive, motivating language. 
    Hypocrisy thy name is Fox News.

  • tea parties are for children

    If you can’t remember the last time a prominent Republican used overheated rhetoric, you must not be paying any attention to politics whatsoever. Or I’m guessing Fox “News” is your main source of info.

  • Anonymous

    remember when Tapper did these things to Bush and he was an evil liberal. Now, he is their hero for his mind-numbing questions.

  • Anonymous

    Of all the pussies he was referring to, Paul Ryan and his china doll feelings is the “pussiest” of all. Dude whines more than my toddler.

  • Anonymous

    Another right wing zombie lie. Nothing happened when the Clintons left, as proved by the GAO report

  • Anonymous

    Wright never gave a speech like that

  • Wamille

    Obama

  • Wamille

    Obama

  • Anonymous

    It’s like none of you can read. This was about voting. Tommy quoted in his story. Y’all comment on stories you do not read.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you don’t remember much do you

  • Anonymous

    Overheated rhetoric?  Yeah sure, try violent threats, dimboy.  If a prominent Republican has said this about Obama you’d be peeing your panties right now, hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    Intelligent post.

  • Wamille

    obama

  • Anonymous

    Obama spoke 20 minutes after this union thug and he should have denounced this his hateful speech immediately.  Obama’s a hypocrite and a thug.

  • Anonymous

    What a joke!  No one squeals like a stuck pig more than you liberal weenies.

  • Anonymous

    “liberals will likely cheer the unspoken subtext: no more Mr. Nice Guy.”

    That’s not the unspoken subtext I got.  Between this crap and the many speech schedule changes, I’m getting the impression the Obama Administration needs to “tighten up.”  They appear disorganized and off message.  Its obvious Rahm Emanuel doesn’t work there anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Give me a break–no one whines more than President ODumbo.

  • Anonymous

    The democrats are waiting for Palin, Bachmann, Angle, Breitbart, Beck and all at “Fox” to apologize. Do you think others aren’t aware of google? The Koch brothers were just caught declaring “war” in their words. What was the spin,..moral code, do as I say. This works both ways!

  • Anonymous

    “Teas” have a short memory!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, that does fit with “reload”, “any means necessary” , “2nd amendment remedies”,”armed and ready” and latest Koch bros. “go to war”. You think maybe this goes both ways,…maybe?

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I don’t think anyone could ‘google” twice as many “tea hate” comments. That could never happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    The Bush years are a blur to me. 
    Did Tapper really bring these sort of nonsense questions to the White House?

  • Anonymous

    Blog commentators using childish epithets being a close second.

  • Anonymous

    Ya…Obama doesn’t hear alot of things that are said that he agrees with…like “God dam… America!”  That’s the standard Jake!  Hope you keep at them and the next time the prez holds a press conference, don’t sit there like a good little boy and wait for him to call on you!  Channel Sam Donaldson perhaps and say “HOLD ON MR. PRESIDENT!”

  • Anonymous

    As I recall, McCain apologized for the person who spoke before him calling the president his name.  Barack Hussein Obama.  Nobody apparently told the guy calling the guy by his name was an epithet.  However, after living thru this devastation he has created, I’m starting to believe his name really is an epithet.  Barack Hussein Obama – Hey!  Don’t call me that!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    The man clearly said we all have a VOTE let’s take them out! 

    He actually said it before in an interview on Morning Joe a couple of weeks ago.

    It wasn’t a big deal then why is it a big deal now?

  • Wake up America

    Well Palin was only pointing out the districts that we needed to win with her crosshairs symbols yet the left went crazy blaming her for the Gabby shooting. Did they display ignorance by coming to that rapid conclusion or did they have an agenda? Of course not.

  • Sean68

    Watch Norah O’Donnell sitting next to Tapper. You can almost sense her irritation with Tapper’s questions.

  • Anonymous

    Jake Tapper is not, by any means, a member of the “Tea Party Press.”

  • Anonymous

    MOVE ONNNNNNNNNNNN!

  • Anonymous

    Stop whining, averii.  Your outrage is selective, hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    But where’s your  “new tone of civility” OJugears whined about in Tucson?  Guess it was just more BS by the BSer in Chief!  Admit it:  Obama’s just a thug and nothing more.  Get off your freaking high-horse.

  • Anonymous

    Prove it liar.

  • Anonymous

    Considering his union’s violence and the fact his father was murdered, I find his violent rhetoric over the top.  Where’s that civil tone you liberals have been whining about?

  • Nature Freak

    XTC – Dear God

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Dear god, hope you get the letter and…
    I pray you can make it better down here
    I don’t mean a big reduction in the price of beer
    But all the people that you made in your image
    See them starving in the street
    ‘Cause they don’t get enough to eat from god
    I can’t believe in you

    Dear god, sorry to disturb you but…
    I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
    We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
    And all the people that you made in your image
    See them fighting in the street
    ‘Cause they can’t make opinions meet about god
    I can’t believe in you

    Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
    Did you make mankind after we made you?
    And the devil too!

    Dear god don’t know if you noticed but…
    Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
    And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
    And all the people that you made in your image
    still believing that junk is true
    Well I know it ain’t, and so do you
    Dear god
    I can’t believe in
    I don’t believe

    I won’t believe in heaven or hell
    No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
    No pearly gates, no thorny crown
    You’re always letting us humans down
    The wars you bring, the babes you drown
    Those lost at sea and never found
    And it’s the same the whole world ’round
    The hurt I see helps to compound
    That father, son and holy ghost
    Is just somebody’s unholy hoax
    And if you’re up there you’ll perceive
    That my heart’s here upon my sleeve
    If there’s one thing I don’t believe in

    It’s you
    Dear god

  • Nature Freak

    XTC – Dear God

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Dear god, hope you get the letter and…
    I pray you can make it better down here
    I don’t mean a big reduction in the price of beer
    But all the people that you made in your image
    See them starving in the street
    ‘Cause they don’t get enough to eat from god
    I can’t believe in you

    Dear god, sorry to disturb you but…
    I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
    We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
    And all the people that you made in your image
    See them fighting in the street
    ‘Cause they can’t make opinions meet about god
    I can’t believe in you

    Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
    Did you make mankind after we made you?
    And the devil too!

    Dear god don’t know if you noticed but…
    Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
    And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
    And all the people that you made in your image
    still believing that junk is true
    Well I know it ain’t, and so do you
    Dear god
    I can’t believe in
    I don’t believe

    I won’t believe in heaven or hell
    No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
    No pearly gates, no thorny crown
    You’re always letting us humans down
    The wars you bring, the babes you drown
    Those lost at sea and never found
    And it’s the same the whole world ’round
    The hurt I see helps to compound
    That father, son and holy ghost
    Is just somebody’s unholy hoax
    And if you’re up there you’ll perceive
    That my heart’s here upon my sleeve
    If there’s one thing I don’t believe in

    It’s you
    Dear god

  • Nature Freak

    WALT WHITMAN: I Sing the Body Electric:

    “I sing the body electric,
    The armies of those I love engirth me and I engirth them,
    They will not let me off till I go with them, respond to them,
    And discorrupt them, and charge them full with the charge of the soul.
    Was it doubted that those who corrupt their own bodies conceal themselves?
    And if those who defile the living are as bad as they who defile the dead?
    And if the body does not do fully as much as the soul?
    And if the body were not the soul, what is the soul?
    2
    The love of the body of man or woman balks account, the body itself
    balks account,
    That of the male is perfect, and that of the female is perfect.
    The expression of the face balks account,
    But the expression of a well-made man appears not only in his face,
    It is in his limbs and joints also, it is curiously in the joints of
    his hips and wrists,
    It is in his walk, the carriage of his neck, the flex of his waist
    and knees, dress does not hide him,
    The strong sweet quality he has strikes through the cotton and broadcloth,
    To see him pass conveys as much as the best poem, perhaps more,
    You linger to see his back, and the back of his neck and shoulder-side.”

    “As I see my soul reflected in Nature,
    As I see through a mist, One with inexpressible completeness,
    sanity, beauty,
    See the bent head and arms folded over the breast, the Female I see.”
    6
    The male is not less the soul nor more, he too is in his place,
    He too is all qualities, he is action and power,
    The flush of the known universe is in him,
    Scorn becomes him well, and appetite and defiance become him well,
    The wildest largest passions, bliss that is utmost, sorrow that is
    utmost become him well, pride is for him,
    The full-spread pride of man is calming and excellent to the soul,
    Knowledge becomes him, he likes it always, he brings every thing to
    the test of himself,
    Whatever the survey, whatever the sea and the sail he strikes
    soundings at last only here,
    (Where else does he strike soundings except here?)

    The man’s body is sacred and the woman’s body is sacred,
    No matter who it is, it is sacred–is it the meanest one in the
    laborers’ gang?
    is it one of the dull-faced immigrants just landed on the wharf?
    Each belongs here or anywhere just as much as the well-off, just as
    much as you,

    Each has his or her place in the procession.
    (All is a procession,
    The universe is a procession with measured and perfect motion.)
    Do you know so much yourself that you call the meanest ignorant?
    Do you suppose you have a right to a good sight, and he or she has
    no right to a sight?
    Do you think matter has cohered together from its diffuse float, and
    the soil is on the surface, and water runs and vegetation sprouts,
    For you only, and not for him and her?”

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    And what do you think Palin’s map was about? Do you honestly think Palin (and the DNCC and DNC), by using a target map, literally mean to wipe out their opponents? 

  • Nature Freak

    The Internationale

    Arise ye workers [starvelings] from your slumbers
    Arise ye prisoners of want
    For reason in revolt now thunders
    And at last ends the age of cant.
    Away with all your superstitions
    Servile masses arise, arise
    We’ll change henceforth [forthwith] the old tradition [conditions]
    And spurn the dust to win the prize.

    So comrades, come rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale unites the human race.
    So comrades, come rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale unites the human race.

    No more deluded by reaction
    On tyrants only we’ll make war
    The soldiers too will take strike action
    They’ll break ranks and fight no more
    And if those cannibals keep trying
    To sacrifice us to their pride
    They soon shall hear the bullets flying
    We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

    No saviour from on high delivers
    No faith have we in prince or peer
    Our own right hand the chains must shiver
    Chains of hatred, greed and fear
    E’er the thieves will out with their booty [give up their booty]
    And give to all a happier lot.
    Each [those] at the forge must do their duty
    And we’ll strike while the iron is hot.

  • Nature Freak

    The Internationale:

    Arise ye workers [starvelings] from your slumbers
    Arise ye prisoners of want
    For reason in revolt now thunders
    And at last ends the age of cant.
    Away with all your superstitions
    Servile masses arise, arise
    We’ll change henceforth [forthwith] the old tradition [conditions]
    And spurn the dust to win the prize.

    So comrades, come rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale unites the human race.
    So comrades, come rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale unites the human race.

    No more deluded by reaction
    On tyrants only we’ll make war
    The soldiers too will take strike action
    They’ll break ranks and fight no more
    And if those cannibals keep trying
    To sacrifice us to their pride
    They soon shall hear the bullets flying
    We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

    No saviour from on high delivers
    No faith have we in prince or peer
    Our own right hand the chains must shiver
    Chains of hatred, greed and fear
    E’er the thieves will out with their booty [give up their booty]
    And give to all a happier lot.
    Each [those] at the forge must do their duty
    And we’ll strike while the iron is hot.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Wake up America 12 hours ago
    Pure hypocrisy! Not even 20 minutes had passed when gabby was shot in Arizona and the left came out strong and crucified Palin! However the left are held to different standards. 

    I know! There was a shooting yesterday, where a man from Mexico (in the US on a valid passport) shoots five National Guard members, and the media doesn’t make a peep about possible connections to rhetoric about the borders, and attacks on Conservatives. But with the AZ shooting, within minutes they were accusing Palin of murder….Skyfet made this comment in the other thread about Hoffa:

    sarainitaly 23 hours agoYea, but the difference is, Palin is accused of murder and Hoffa is given a pass, defended, and taken in context.

    skyfet 23 hours ago in reply to sarainitalyNo one has been shot after his speech. So your analogy is lame.

    sarainitaly 13 hours ago in reply to skyfetwell, what do ya know… spoke too soon, skyfet? At Least 3 Dead in Shooting Rampage at IHOP Restaurant in NevadaRead more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011…Considering the Left IMMEDIATELY jumped to link AZ shooting to Palin, speculating whether Hoffa inspired this shooting should be a-ok with you, right? Especially considering Palin or the tea party had NOTHING to do with Laughner’s rampage.

    Here, Tapper completely highlights the hypocrisy from the Left, and the Obama camp. They held McCain and Palin responsible for things their surrogates and supporters and crowd members said, yet they are mum on hoffa. They hold the entire tea Party responsible for the actions of a few nutjobs, and even for the LaRouche group (Liberals with Obama s Hitler signs), but:”Mr. Hoffa speaks for himself,…The President speaks for himself…”
    Yea, ok.

  • Nature Freak

    Fuck You Very Much
    Lily Allen

    Look inside, look inside your tiny mind
    Then look a bit harder
    ‘Cause we’re so uninspired, so sick and tired
    Of all the hatred you harbor

    So you say it’s not okay to be gay
    Well, I think you’re just evil
    You’re just some racist who can’t tie my laces
    Your point of view is medieval

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause we hate what you do
    And we hate your whole crew
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause your words don’t translate
    And it’s getting quite late
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Do you get, do you get a little kick
    Out of being small minded?
    You want to be like your father
    It’s approval you’re after
    Well, that’s not how you find it

    Do you, do you really enjoy
    Living a life that’s so hateful?
    ‘Cause there’s a hole where your soul should be
    You’re losing control a bit
    And it’s really distasteful

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause we hate what you do
    And we hate your whole crew
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause your words don’t translate
    And it’s getting quite late
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you
    Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you
    Fuck you

    You say you think we need to go to war
    Well, you’re already in one
    ‘Cause it’s people like you that need to get slew
    No one wants your opinion

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause we hate what you do
    And we hate your whole crew
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Fuck you, fuck you very, very much
    ‘Cause your words don’t translate
    And it’s getting quite late
    So please don’t stay in touch

    Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you
    Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you

  • Anonymous

    No. But false equivalencies aside, Hoffa did not say what many commenters here and Limbaugh are saying he did. Limbaugh is the single most dishonest media figure in America today.

  • SlyFox

    You remember when Mom used to say “If you do not have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all.” I think this is what Carney lives by. He is just a stool pigeon. The thing the left knows about the right is that most of us will not spew out hate like the left. We try with dignity not to get caught up in the rhetoric and hyperbole statements and try to graciously bow out while we keep getting hammered by talking heads and left-wingers. I think we should just ignore Hoffa, Obama, & Trumpka and let the chips fall where they may. Let them cut their own throats..

  • TruDat

    Jay Carney, the little propagandist.

  • Blevit

    Wow..a journalist with balls
    Congrtas Jack Tapper for doing your job
    You have my respect!!

  • fanofgrendel

    Basard is as phony a son of a bitch as Tommy. Take em both out.

  • fanofgrendel

    just makin’ a point

  • Anonymous

    liberals vote

    conservatives blow up office buildings in oklahoma and murder children in norway.

    thats the difference.  sarah palin has still yet to denounce the republicans chanting to “kill him” about our Commander In Chief when she was campaigning as the VP candidate.

    Americans are taking their country back from conservative trash.

  • TruDat

    Sure they are.  Why did the House and the majority of states go red in 2010?

  • Anonymous

     and now all those states realize what a mistake they mad and most of their governor’s are getting re-called.

    kiss kasich, walker, and the rest goodbye while obama crushes the GOP contender in 2012. 

  • Anonymous

    conservatives fixating on hoffa is funny considering they know they’re going down in 2012.

    rick perry: “herp der derp, I have no plans for the country and ruined texas”  obama wins by 20 points

    romney: “I’m unemployed just like you, like my new mansion?”  obama wins by 20 points

    michelle bachmann: “I support right wing terrorism” obama wins by 20 points

    sarah palin:  ’nuff said, Obama wins by 20 points

    conservatism loses in 2012 and in 2016 when andrew cuomo wipes the mat with whatever next failure the nazi GOP party runs then.

  • Anonymous

    where did they find this guy?  he always looks like he’s late for his algebra class.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VW56GYOHLIXOOKVLZBXBYMBN7A Michael

    Though he was doing a fine job on his own, in
    the interest of a more civilized environment, do you suppose it would have been
    too much to ask that someone in that filled room assist Mr. Tapper hand Mr.
    Carney his ass?

  • Anonymous

    Lair, you are or so caught up in your “tea bubble” that facts are void from your life! On this site alone (which you must use) you have “Bachmann” saying nearly the same thing “Hoffa” said. If you ever listened to any clips other than what “Fox’ told you to, you would know “Fox” did their standard spin, edit job. Hoffa was referencing  “by votes” ONE sentence earlier! Which is worse Bachmann or Hoffa? West is on this site today, with a gun use reference. Just google hateful tea party comments, you will get your fill. Yes, 2 to 1! Don’t start that liberal media crap, when the only source you know is “Fox” and “tea blogs”. Should both sides back off statements made, yes and you can pull out some edited comments the left shouldn’t have made, but it is clearly a “tea hate” world at about 2 to 1!

  • TruDat

    Yeah, sure.  Just like the libs took over the Senate in WI with the recalls.  NOT.  Just like lefty-loon WI Supreme Court candidate Kloppenburg beat conservative Prosser.  NOT.  Just like lefty Judge Sumi stopped Walker’s WI Act 10.  NOT.  Hell, we even tossed left-wing fruit cup Feingold out of office.  So keep dreamin’; it’s all you’ve got left.

  • Anonymous

    Michelle Bachmann doesn’t have a history of violence and murder that Hoffa’s union does.  Hoffa is a foul-mouthed pig of a union thug whose violent threats toward republicans must be taken seriously.

    Shove your phony outrage, hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    The Clintons stole valuable antique furniture in the White House and were made to return most of it.  Their aides also vandalized a lot of the equipment there.  The Clintons have always been trailer trash grifters.  I can imagine the loot Moochelle’s going to try and rip off when she’s kicked out in 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Isabel-Maione/1472900538 Isabel Maione

    The Liberals and the unions are one big mafia organization. Why don’t the unions shell out the money for their people? They take their money( workers) for themselves and want the people and the govt. to shell out our money for them. Obama and the democrats had three years with a majority in the house and the senate. What was accomplished? NOTHING. Now they feel they can blame it on the Republicans. They sure do act stupid.

  • pattia

    I couldn’t agreee with you more!!  The right wing has done nothing but put roadblocks in front of any plan that might work.  As far as I’m concerned the Tea Party members already have their guns “locked-and-loaded.”  Their just biding their time.  Do you hear the faint sound of jackboots?  Go ahead and laugh.  Germany did, too.  Big business and the rest of the top 2% want a Republican in the whitehouse and they could care less about the rest of us.
    It’s about time somone spoke up.

  • Anonymous

     ”Shove your phony outrage, hypocrite”! After I told you both sides do this and shouldn’t,…..”hypocrite” !!!??? How does that work? Phoney outrage is “Fox” bleeping out a word that is allowable to say on air ( a little extra attention ), then edit the reference to voting. They do that because they think you’re a stupid sheep and they’re crooked. For the second time, “Hoffa” shouldn’t have said what he did, since the “tea party” is trying to live down their war, battle, gun references. Phony outrage,… I don’t think anyone is fearful of Bachmann toward violence, but she makes the reference. Remember the pushing of the reporter, with her husband into the gulf cart? Well that was ok, because it was liberal media! Guess where all the bad press about unions comes from,…..wait for it,…. “Fox”! Do you see a pattern here? “Teas are allowed to be outraged over an edited clip ( murder charge? ) but I can’t bring up dozens of references “teas” have made about the same subject.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Faux will hire him-anyone willing to lie will be hired.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Seig heil, mein fuhrer!!! Lol, wanker.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Whats interesting is that you posted this BEFORE lil jackie and lane bryant posted their bs…yet they fail to address the god-awful truth, lol. Hypocrisy, without thee Republitards would have no code at all!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Does he whine or bully? You contards have such difficulty sorting out your outrages…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    You too, posted after Tim Cajun’s post…and yet fail to address it as well. Because there is no response to the TRUTH, eh jackarse? Youre the real joke, a bad one at that.

  • Anonymous
  • Flint, MI

    As for me, I intend to do just what Hoffa suggested – keep my eye on the prize and use my vote to help takes these sonsofbitches out of office

  • J V

    Get a clue liberal. The Rep controlled House has passed more then 15 pieces of legislation out to create jobs and get the economy moving and ALL have been either tabled (buried) or voted down in the DEMOCRAT controlled Senate.

    In the news today is a story about this very thing. The Rep sent OBOZO an open leter detailing each piece of legislation they have passed which has been killed by the liberals.

  • Guest

    Double Standard???? Are you kidding????The Right say whatever they want and take out of context things people say and that is OK………………….I hope he said take them out…..OUT OF POWER…..but the right will make it sould like something else. 

  • Anonymous

    Grow up and get over your obsession with Fox.  Freedom of speech applies to all–no matter how intolerant you are.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you didn’t read the information on your link.  Not only was there a great deal of vandalism attributed to Clinton’s staff, allegations of theft were substantiated.

    Trailer trash democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Doc Putrid, ODumbo does both.

  • Anonymous

    Nice try.  Your allegation was that the Clintons stole funriture.  That is nowhere in the report. 

    You don’t get to change the parameters of the debate

  • Anonymous

    Fail to address what, moron?  Crawl back under your rock, slimeball.

  • Anonymous

    I watched the union thug give the speech and he said exactly what we say he did.  He’s a nasty piece of work like most liberals.

     You liberal morons just can’t get over Limbaugh and Fox, but they’re just the messengers.  Get over it because they’re here to stay.

  • Anonymous

    I listened to Limbaugh yesterday and he NEVER mentioned or played the get out an vote.  he’s a liar and you’re a dupe.  he kows he can lie to you, because you won’t check on his lies

  • Anonymous

    Timb, liberals like you always try to cut off debate when you’ve been outed as liars.  Loser.

    Convenient that you omitted my remarks–proof of which is included in this report– about the extensive vandalism of White House items the democrat garbage staff left behind after President Horndog left office in 2000.  Sorry, you don’t get to make stuff up.

    Google the Clinton’s theft of valuable china, crystal and silver that Hillary stole and had shipped to her NY house that she was made to return.

    Interesting that we would even be having this conversation about a president and his trailer trash wife stealing national treasures for their own use.  You democrats are no-class dirt..

  • Anonymous

    What’s Limbaugh got to do with anything?  I heard the speech myself.  You really have a problem with comprehension skills–well, I don’t and Hoffa was threatening those who disagree with him.  You’re an idiot just like your hero thug, Jimmy.  Nice role model.

  • Anonymous

    just so I know, Republicans have tried to create jobs by passing legislation they KNOW will not get through a Democratic Senate and you applaud them for not understanding governing or for grandstanding to the sorts of people who believe whatever they say?

    Sounds like the latter.

    by the way, that list is ridiculous.  Their “job creating legislation” includes such job creation as neutering Dodd-Frank, allowing dirty water to be poured into clean water, prohibiting the EPA form carbon regulations, sops to the oil industry and the Paul Ryan budget!  Takes a real right wing zealot to believe that’s a jobs plan and not just a Christmas wish list from industry lobbyists.

    For Christ’s sake, Ryan’s Hoover-esque budget will create jobs how?  If Boehner had an ounce of credibility, he would be emabrrassed.  Not that we can tell, I suppose, given his orange pallor.

    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=258203

  • Anonymous

    Funny, how I produce a link to a report which does not support your allegations of the Clinton’s stealing any and you tell me to google it.  YOU google it.  I am not your monkey

  • Anonymous

    For god’s sake, it’s in the article above you

    ““Everybody here’s got a vote,” Hoffa said Monday. “If we go back and we keep the eye on the prize. let’s take these sonofabitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”

    Not only is mild compared to Allen “strap on your bayonet” West, it refers to voting.  Why do you people comment if you have not read the article in question?

  • Anonymous

    Becasue 60 million fewer people voted and off-year elections are always the playground of the old and/or pissed off. 

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    You’re a liar because he played the complete speech more than once so you couldn’t have listened to the program.

    Stay stupid “Timmah”  You were just caught in a lie.

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    Go get the transcript.  You are such an idiot.  I listened for the “vote” line and he did not play it. 

    You accuse someone of lying, you old coot, you better be able to prove it.

  • Anonymous

    Do not apologize. Their rhetoric over the years makes Hoffa’s comment – even taken out of context or fox edited – mild in comparison. Hell. Sarah Palin had crosshairs on Gabby Gifford’s district. That is violent symbolism.

  • Anonymous

    I listened to the first hour while working from home.  Media Matters says Limbaugh played the quote in the 2nd hour and said it didn’t matter

    “Rush Acknowledges Cutting Out “Everybody Here’s Got To Vote” From Hoffa’s Comment, Still Thinks It Was In Context’

    It was after that he made that first Hoffa’s dad’s killers joke. 

    So, I missed it during the second hour?  Jesus, I thought he harped on it for the first hour.  I never considered he would keep it up for a second hour. 

    So There, you are half-right.  I had stopped listening when he played it.  Ironically, I heard the Hoffa death joke later and was disgusted but forgot to notice that meant he played it. 

    Still, I didn’t lie but So There, my own Media Matters monitor, was half-right!
    D’oh

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    He said exactly what Limbaugh played on his show, word for word little man.  The complete quote from Hoffa.  The whole ting in Hoffa’s words, yup word for word in his own words.

    You’re the liar little man. And ignorant too.

    “TMP”

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    So you admit that you lied. That’s a start. Rush played the complete speech during the days program because people complained that he edited what Hoffa said.

    You’re a liar and you rely on media Matters for your ignorant opinions. Typical “Timmah”

    Don’t give me the “Hoffa Joke” crap, he was right on with the joke if you heard it in context, which you obviously didn’t because you lied about listening to the program.

    Stay ignorant little man.

    “TMP”

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    He played the complete speech little man. Again if your depending on Media Matters (who always take quotes out of context) then your stupid.

    I already knew that you were ignorant, now everyone else knows it also.

    “Timmah”

    LMAO

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    timb: You’re the one who doesn’t get it, doofus.  Congressman West is a hero and a patriot and Hoffa is just a typical union thug–you could never compare the two.

    Besides, West never told a huge crowd of supporters to “take them out.”  Words mean things and it’s about time you hypocrites on the left follow your own rules on civility.

  • Anonymous

    What’s new?  A liberal who lies is just par for the course.

  • Anonymous

    Somewhere a rubber room is missing its timb116.

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    And he thinks that Media matters is a credible source for information. LMAO

    I’ve caught “Timmah” in more than one lie. He’s about as ignorant as they come.

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    You’re on crack, too.

  • Anonymous

    Your link provides proof that Clinton staffers trashed the White House before they left.  Trailer trash democrats.

  • Anonymous

    You should be concerned especially after the Clinton thieves trashed the White House.

  • Anonymous

    Hoffa’s a vicious union thug and his union is prone to violence–we know exactly what he meant.

  • Anonymous

    You’re an idiot.  Democrats owned the presidency and both houses of congress for TWO YEARS!!!  You didn’t have any roadblocks then and you’ve destroyed the economy as a result.
    You’re lying about big business too–Wall Street went big for Obama in 2008.  I think we both know who the jack-boots are.  Hoffa and his brown-shirts would do Obama’s dirty work for him.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, the democrats accomplished something alright–they’ve destroyed our economy and gotten our credit downgraded as a result.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, the democrats accomplished something alright–they’ve destroyed our economy and gotten our credit downgraded as a result.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah sure whatever.  You jack-booted thugs on the left are always ready to inflict violence on others.

  • Anonymous

    The Koch brothers aren’t elected officials, doofus.  Biden called his opponents terrorists and barbarians and Hoffa is threatening violence.  I think we both know who should apologize.  Now do it!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t think that was possible.  Must be comedy.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Obama’s the fuhrer and Hoffa the union thug is one of his brownshirts.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals like you know a lot about lying.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t think so.  Union thugs prone to violence like Hoffa should watch his fat mouth.

  • Anonymous

    West is a hero and a patriot and Hoffa is a union thug prone to violence–you can’t compare the two.

  • Anonymous

    west is a war criminal and you use the word “thug” way too much when you talk about who save the middle class from the depredations of the plutocrats.

    West violated a basic commandment of UCMJ

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    You don’t know crap about the UCMJ little man. He was given an article 15 under the UCMJ.  Case closed.

    Stay stupid.

    “TMP”

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    And Hoffa’s comments were not taken out of context. Sarah Palin’s cross-hairs  wasn’t responsible for Gabby Gifford’s shooting.  The hate is coming from the leftists in this country.

    The guy who shot Gifford was a dope smoking Liberal lunatic. He’s been stalking Gifford for years and the stupid Sheriff didn’t do anything about it.  Get your facts right you ignorant boob.

    “TMP”

  • http://www.thefriendcenter.com/ SoThere

    The Dodd-Frank bill is a Government regulation disaster.  Have you read the bill? (what a silly question) Of course you haven’t..  Tell me all about Section 1502 on December 23, 2010 and what it has to do with regulating Wallstreet?

    The EPA is out of control and should be discontinued.  They are responsible for enforcing environmental laws not making them. Only Congress has the power to make federal law.  

    Stay stupid little man.  You’re in your comfort zone.

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    Doofus, doofus this from a “Tea” that doesn’t know that “Hoffa” is not an elected official. ( then why are you so outraged) ”Biden” only agreed that terrorist was used in the meeting, not that ‘he” said it, but take the freebie. Barbarians, most wouldn’t care if you said “Greeks” at the gate or maybe “Huns”! The term notes a strong  opponent. Past that, it’s what you wish to spin of it. Apologize,… that you accept a double standard for the “teas”,… I’m sorry you do that.

  • Anonymous

    You anti-American robots are laughable.  Only weak, spineless losers like you would call Cong. West a war criminal for saving the lives of his men.  You could only dream of having the courage of this good man.

    You admire common thugs like Obama and Hoffa because you have no honor; in other words, you’re a worthless liberal tool.

  • Anonymous

    You anti-American robots are laughable.  Only weak, spineless losers like you would call Cong. West a war criminal for saving the lives of his men.  You could only dream of having the courage of this good man.

    You admire common thugs like Obama and Hoffa because you have no honor; in other words, you’re a worthless liberal tool.

  • Anonymous

    Admit you don’t know mock executions are against the law and considered torture.  Then, explain why you love a war criminal

  • Anonymous

    Explain why you’d rather see numerous young Americans die a bloody death than scare a terrorist.

    Traitor.

  • Anonymous

    Duh, guess the moron lib doesn’t know that thug Hoffa is an elected union official who spoke minutes before the Organizer in Chief.  Hoffa’s just a brown shirt doing Obama’s dirty work.

    Apologize for your stupidity.

  • Anonymous

    Read the NY Times report he contributed to:  he neither broke up a plot, nor shot at a “terrorist,” and created new enemies.  He’s the hotheaded war criminal

    “According to the interpreter, Mr. Hamoodi finally ”admitted there would
    be attacks, and called out names.” Mr. Hamoodi said that he was not
    sure what he told the Americans, but that it was meaningless information
    induced by fear and pain.”

    “At least one man named by Mr. Hamoodi was taken into custody,
    according to testimony, and his home was searched. No plans for attacks
    on Americans or weapons were found. Colonel West testified that he did
    not know whether ”any corroboration” of a plot was ever found
    , adding:
    ”At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received.
    It’s possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi.”
    When the
    interrogation was over, a physician’s assistant checked Mr. Hamoodi and
    found ”swelling but no bruises,” according to a hearing transcript. He
    was detained another 45 days and released without being charged, he
    said.

    Mr. Hamoodi said he did not really blame the Americans for
    ”arresting and torturing me.” Obviously, someone had informed on him,
    he said, and they had to act on the information they obtained. Still, he
    trembles now when he sees a Humvee and he no longer trusts or works
    with the Americans.

    You should read more, socon

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/world/struggle-for-iraq-interrogations-colonel-risked-his-career-menacing-detainee.html?pagewanted=6&src=pm

  • Lin

    The Clintons did NOT steal valuable antique furniture from the White House.  No equipment was vandalized in the White House either.  Some of the staff trashed another building, which was wrong. 

  • Lin

    By the way, I am a conservative Republican

  • Anonymous

    Which state or federal office does “Hoffa” hold and which party? Was he on your Nov. ballet? No, and you’re  a fool for wasting time, going out into far left field to try and salvage a weak (incorrect) point. Moron, were’re now to ‘brown shirts”? I thought “teas” never went that way! Fine, if you don’t like “Hoffa”. He’s not a saint, but don’t have amnesia for all the “tea hate” rants. Listen to the sentence before his “EDITED” comment. VOTING! Both sides.

  • Anonymous

    D’OH!!!

  • Anonymous

    Liar.  Read the link posted above by your lib buddy timb116.  Vandalism was extensive and it was documented in a GAO report.  You’re a conservative?  Another laughable lie.

  • Anonymous

    The New York Times?  Really?  You’re really are a braindead liberal.    The NY Slimes has proven to be an anti-American rag of the worst order and goes out of its way to destroy any one on the right.  They print lies all of the time.  I don’t believe anything in that piece of trash.

     You are an American hating dupe of the left.

    One question for you, doofus:  If West is a war criminal why wasn’t he brought up on charges?

  • Anonymous

    The New York Times?  Really?  You’re really are a braindead liberal.    The NY Slimes has proven to be an anti-American rag of the worst order and goes out of its way to destroy any one on the right.  They print lies all of the time.  I don’t believe anything in that piece of trash.

     You are an American hating dupe of the left.

    One question for you, doofus:  If West is a war criminal why wasn’t he brought up on charges?

  • Anonymous

    Did I say Hoffa was a POLITICAL official?  No, I didn’t so stop putting words in my mouth.

    I said “ELECTED OFFICIALS.”  Admit you’re wrong and apologize for your complete stupidity.
    Hey, if the term brown shirts fits, wear it–Hoffa does.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the New York Times profile on West must be inaccurate, since it quoted from the Article 15.

    Read the article

    West realized he would be court-martialed and was given a choice to resign and pay a fine or go through with the trial.  He chose to resign. 

    This is what is bringing down “conservatives.”  The denial of facts and data, the constant killing of the messenger, the trust in personalities instead of law and procedure….this article was written by examining the written record and interviewing West.  The last page and a half is his story of what happened when he left the service. 

    Whatever, go back to listening to Levin and the rest of us will govern the damn country

  • Anonymous

    Socon, are you in grade school? How far are you going to move the goal, to be right? You lost your own point!He’s elected (weak) and Koch was elected to his board, so what’s the point? (you have nothing) Since Koch works for the “tea party”,… wait,… the “tea party” works for Koch, his comment of “war” isn’t the same as “Hoffa’s”? Get your left field spin ready. You’re wearing the “brown shirt’ hate out, make sure all your “tea” buddies know it! Apologize, for you trying to save a weak point, ok “I’m sorry you keep coming up short, I’m getting tired, so wow, your so smart you got me, go to bed.

  • Anonymous

    Socon, are you in grade school? How far are you going to move the goal, to be right? You lost your own point!He’s elected (weak) and Koch was elected to his board, so what’s the point? (you have nothing) Since Koch works for the “tea party”,… wait,… the “tea party” works for Koch, his comment of “war” isn’t the same as “Hoffa’s”? Get your left field spin ready. You’re wearing the “brown shirt’ hate out, make sure all your “tea” buddies know it! Apologize, for you trying to save a weak point, ok “I’m sorry you keep coming up short, I’m getting tired, so wow, your so smart you got me, go to bed.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals like you have lost touch with reality–we absolutely destroyed you “Liberals” at the polls in 2010.  It was the biggest blowout in 70 years.  So much for “bringing Conservatives down.”  Also, President DownGrade’s approvals are in the 30-40s and Republicans are expected to take the Senate in 2012.  You truly are a joke.

    Face it:  Americans have rejected your disastrous policies that have destroyed our economy and your party will be punished even more in 2012.  That’s why your thug leaders are promoting violence–they’ve got nothing else.

    Talk about denying facts and data.  See you November 2012.

  • Anonymous

    nice rebuttal of…..Oh, wait, it was an unhinged rant.

    See ya

  • Anonymous

    Hey, Td, pretty sure people stop saying “not” sometime around 1999.

  • John Smith

    I think little Tommy started out as an intern at the $PLC.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Yeah, I knew it–you’ve got nothing.  Everything I said is true and you know it; next you’ll be threatening me with violence like all of your fellow lib thugs.

    See ‘ya next election, stooge. 

  • Anonymous

    I won and you know it.  I didn’t see private citizen Koch exhorting his rabid followers to violence and then introducing a Republican VP and President, did you?  You are obviously weak at critical thinking ability.

    You are the party of hate, violence and union brown shirts.  You should apologize for your existence.
    See ‘ya next election.

  • Anonymous

    The democrat party has been using targets over districts for 10 years, hypocrite.  The guy who shot Giffords is a violent leftwing nut–but don’t let facts get in the way of fantasy.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals are destroying our economy with their ridiculous job-killing regulations.  President DownGrade has got to go next year!

  • Anonymous

    Typical foul-mouthed liberal.

  • Anonymous

    I smell something else and it’s not pretty.

  • Anonymous

    Loser.

  • Anonymous

    Uh, I think the tea party is pushing back, doofus.

  • Anonymous

    What did they say?

  • Anonymous

    Tru dat

  • Anonymous

    LOL!  Kicked your sorry azz and I’m so proud to have done so.  Are you going to threaten me with violence now like thug Hoffa?

  • Anonymous

    Must be night shift at Media Matters.

  • Anonymous

    So are you giving a pass to Hoffa? He is a loose cannon. I would think some on the left wish that he would just shut up and go away – he is not helping the liberal cause look like sane and reasonable people.

  • Anonymous

    So are you giving a pass to Hoffa? He is a loose cannon. I would think some on the left wish that he would just shut up and go away – he is not helping the liberal cause look like sane and reasonable people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BUBP4RAR6PWVZWYR5PCR5YRLTM mikhastur

    totally not the way I would have gone with this.    I would have pointed out the rhetoric in the exact same words of so many on the right.   lamented the violent bent of it, and said, the president does not approve of inciting violence but if hoffa was doing that, then so was michele bachmann and all the rest of them.  can’t we all just get along?

  • Anonymous

    Are you a child? You can’t take losing. “Koch” is a private citizen,… and “Hoffa’s not? I can’t tell if you’re just missing this or what. What are you trying to hang on? The only weak strectch here is the introduction, he did come later,… so is that it? Maybe you just didn’t know about the tape being edited. No matter how many times you cry, “apologize”, it doesn’t change the edit! How many times do I have to say “Hoffa” is a turd? I have said that all along. An edit is an edit is an edit. Maybe you don’t know about the “Koch” tape! He was hosting several “teas’, several house members, and a few senators. He made the same type statement “Hoffa” did (not as rough) and both are private citizens, both were dealing with politics! Where is the difference? Double standard all the way! What happened with telling you how smart you are, so you will quit the stalking. Wow, you’re great, nobody is as smart as you. Are we good?

  • Anonymous

    Hoffa is the president of the Teamsters who gives millions of dollars to elect Obama; so NO he’s not a private citizen.  Besides, Koch did not exhort his knuckle-dragging minions to violence like Hoffa did.

    Your analogy stinks–admit it.  Now go to bed or your mom is going to get mad at you.  You need to pass 8th grade this time.

  • Anonymous

    Child, I think I understand this now. You don’t really know about Koch and you’re one of those kids that has to be right, when wrong. That’s ok. There’s just no need to waste my time with your silliness. You keep changing the issue ”just a little” to try and salvage a point! I don’t think you know what defines a private citizen. “Hoffa” does not work for the government in any way, so he is a private citizen. Your analogy is really sharp, he gives to Obama so he’s not private! “What”? I give every year, I’m not a private citizen? You are really going out to left field to try and save this one. Losing makes you mad so just stop. Koch gives millions to the “tea party” conservative members of congress, Blaze, Breitbart, Heritage, so on. So do you want to change up again? You say if you give money to your party, your not private, so Koch isn’t private? ( it’s what you said ) Extortion, of money, so the rally “Koch”  had for the tea party, asking them for money was extrotion? ( it’s what you said ) Minions to violence, when “Koch” told the “teas” It’s like war with “Saddam Hussein”, the “mother of all wars” be ready? ( It’s what you said ) Don’t stalk me anymore. Your analogy sucks, you keep changing the story and I’ve said many times “Hoffa” is an ass! Grow out of this!

  • Michael T.

    Re: Jake Tapper’s confrontational comments.

    Gotta love that liberal MSM bias.  [sarcasm]

    Which reminds me, has Mr. Tapper ever had anything nice to say about Obama, or is he simply the Sean Hannity of ABC News? 

    Although to be fair, there are times when he is somewhat forced (or under the gun of his ABC bosses) to feign impartiality – such as when he hosts ABC’s Sunday morning “This Week” show.

  • Michael T.

    Re: Jake Tapper’s confrontational questioning.

    Gotta love that liberal MSM. [sarcasm]

    Does anyone recall Mr. Tapper ever saying anything positive about Obama, or is he simply the Sean Hannity of ABC News (except when hosting “This Week” where his bosses demand fairness)?

  • Anonymous

    Hoffa’s a union thug who exhorted his knuckle-dragging minions to violence.  Of course Obama didn’t criticize Hoffa for his inflammatory threats–Hoffa works for Obama.
    I wouldn’t want this creep introducing a Republican president either.

    Stop stalking me.

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