i once ate a fish that once ate his dad

It only proves that Scarborough is a spineless fraud!!

“There’s going to be an election in ’12, and maybe the answer is, we
wipe these people out,” makes clear that he’s referring to electoral
remedies.

All of the comments made by Palin and Tea Party member around the time of the Giffords shooting “were referring electoral
remedies” but that didn’t stop your side from using the shooting to score political point and also use it to silence critics on the other side.

SHAME!!!

 http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Opinion_Editorial/NASTY_AND_THREATENING_RHETORIC_ALIVE_AND_WELL/50239

Something tells me Jay Carney response will be something along the lines of that statement was wrong and the President doesn’t want that kind of talk from his supporters. Yet people like Tommy here will continue to defend those words. Tommy last week you whined about Rush Limbaugh using the words “shot his wad” Yet a couple days later defend a liberal using the words “Let’s take these son of bitches out”. Your one big hack and come across as one blind wacko.

tommy’s outrage is based only on one thing, who said it a conservative or a liberal

I don’t get your point.  Hoffa had a national venue this weekend.  No one heard it on Morning Joe.  And this time,  Hoffa’s remarks prefaced a presidential speech which just looks bad – like BO condoned it.  Sometimes you get stuck on stuff that’s just a big nothing…

Tommy and Colby are working overtime to proved cover… Aren’t they?

Even better:  Joe and Mika were complaining about Hoffa’s speech while Steve “Tea Partiers are terrorists” Rattner was sitting next to them.  They never called him out either – in fact they keep inviting him back to inflict his tired bromides and his tedious, indecipherable charts on their unsuspecting audience.

Jimmy Hoffa’s comments are doubly awkward because of the Teamsters’ past (and present?) associations with certain elements that actually do take people out.  But in the end the problem isn’t what he said – he wasn’t actually advocating violence anymore than Sarah Palin with her bullseye map or Michelle Bachmann with her “locked and loaded” speech.  The problem is that for the most part, the “mainstream media” other than Fox ignores violent, extreme rhetoric from the left and magnifies it when it comes from the right.  It’s especially galling to me because it is unions and their thugs that have a decades-long long history of ACTUAL violence and threats as opposed to a few over-excited tea partiers (who, unlike the recent Wisconsin protestors and anti-war protestors of years past, actually clean up after themselves when they have a rally), and I have always wondered why the media downplays, excuses or ignores union thuggery.  Is it because most of the media is leftist or is there a more nuanced explanation?

One reason it might not have is that the full quote, “There’s going to
be an election in ’12, and maybe the answer is, we wipe these people
out,” makes clear that he’s referring to electoral remedies. Of course,
yesterday’s freakout-inducing remark also contained such a qualifier, one that was left out of Morning Joe’s discussion.

Yes, but it didn’t include this:

“We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers.
And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is
only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working
people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war,
they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s
going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win
that war,”

That Hoffa managed to work the word “vote” into his rant does not mitigate it.

omg the shooter at the carson city ihop was a teamster!!!!!

Obama has ostensibly endorsed Jimmy Haffa’s call-to-arms by not denouncing it immediately.

Has anyone else noticed how all the people who were most outraged about Palin and Bachman’s allegedly “incendiary rhetoric” are the EXACT same people trying their hardest to down play these comments. In fact, if you do a google search for “incendiary rhetoric”, all you’ll find is links to articles about Beck, Fox, Palin and Republicans in general. 

Not necessarily. He was probably too busy talking over to listen. Or, he doesn’t watch his own show.

Not just Timmy’s, but the entire Democrat party media. They have very inconsistent outrage and standards. 

“It is also true that the “crosshair map” was grossly irresponsible.”

Guess who?  http://tinyurl.com/2vftazm

Nothing out of line here, though. No, sir. We’re all responsible around here.

Why should he… no one else does.

BOOM!!! Thank you, I’m here all week… try the veal. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

Definition #6 is a perfect fit to Hoffa….

From the dictionary of REAL Americans:

union = 1. A collection of people headed by goons and thugs organized to extort the maximum possible wages, benefits and pensions for doing the minimum possible amount of actual work. 2. A subsidiary of the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist party that provides hundreds of millions of dollars in mandatory union dues as campaign contributions in payback for the billions of dollars of taxpayer money the d-cRAT socialists funnel to the unions. 3. An entity designed to make any company non-competitive and any state, city or local municipality bankrupt. 4. A collection of people controlled by goons and thugs that are focused on voter intimidation, unless the voter votes for the d-cRAT socialist party. 5. A tool of the d-cRAT socialist party to implement its anti-democracy ideology by preventing workers from having a secret ballot as to whether they want to join a union, and instead subjecting them to what is called “card check” that allows union leader goons and thugs to harass, intimidate and threaten workers to join their union. 6. The d-cRAT socialist party’s version of the Third Reich’s SchutzStaffel  (SS) used to violently attack anybody who opposes the will of the unions or the party, as seen in their actions in Wisconsin and elsewhere where there are efforts at fiscal reform, rational governing and support for taxpayers. 7. The current d-cRAT socialist form of SLAVERY in which each person MUST pay dues to their union maters, they MUST be subject to the rules of their union maters and they MUST obey all orders and decrees from their union masters even if they don’t want anything to do with the union.

Glad the MSM and Tommy covered that… oh wait… they didn’t.

Never mind… *crickets chirping*

I don’t think anyone is claiming the coment was “so apocalyptically incendiary”; conservatives aren’t as mealy mouthed simplistic as liberals.  I think the issue is the inherent hypocricy of 1) Obama and 2) the lefties who deride and chide any allegedly violent rhetoric from the right to the point they attempted to blame Sarah Palin for the shooting of Giffords.  Then they call for civility all the while using violent rhetoric with each and every phrase that comes spewing out of their hypocritical mouths.

“Inconsistent Outrage”… I like that. I’m going to steal that for later. ;)

How often do you enjoy making stupid jokes concerning a mass shooting??

i’m enjoying it as much as those that claimed giffords was shot by a teaparty member…

Check it for copyright first. If Drone-On-and-On is using it, you can assume it was pilfered from someone else.

Come on, it’s not like Hoffa put a symbol on a map.

Since we have the vote, let’s tie Tommy Christopher to the back end of a transcontinental railroad.  (statement qualified, therefore no offense can be inferred)

You idiot.

“Scarborough led off the broadcast with predictable outrage over Teamster president James Hoffa’s remarks at a Labor Day event,”
—————————-

It’s too bad we can’t expect the same “predictable” decency from the Gang Leader in the White House!

Scarborough gets more ignorant every time I watch this show…He is the most arrogant fool on television…Thinks he’s hot stuff, he should look in the mirror when he first get’s thos dye jobs on his hair, either that or he wears a wig from time to time…..

“Was Nikita Kruschev’s famous ‘We Will Crush You’ statement qualified?  by Tommy Christopher

Why Anything a Liberal Supoorter of President Obama Says can Never Be Challenged – by Tommy Christopher

Why Anything a Liberal Supoorter of President Obama Says can Never Be Challenged – by Tommy Christopher

In Defense of Tommy Christopher – by Colby Hall

OK TC so after you made a fool out of yourself defending Hoffa’s comments and charged Fox News with selectively “editing” (even though every other network used the exact same clip)  you now go after Joe Scarborough for not being outraged about Hoffa’s previous rhetoric. So what are you saying, you now think that the comment was wrong and indefensible like all the other good liberal drone?

I only steal the best. ;)

I didnt see this many stories when Sharron Angle said we need “2nd amendment remedies”. Of course Mediaite isn’t biased or anything.

She wasn’t introducing President Civility.

Hoffa now has blood on his hands for his comments. Great job TC and meidiaite.

Mediaite is a far left site doncha know???

It would be nice if Joe could show a little more consistency.

It would be nice if Joe could show a little more consistency.

I believe this is a response to the constant cries from Fox News and the rest of the right of “class warfare” being waged on the rich (aka “job creators” to the sheeple). How the Koch brothers have managed to convince such a large population of middle to lower-middle class people that giving the rich more money is in their best interest is a feat in and of itself. I have to say, that’s an impressive accomplishment, albeit cruel and selfish.

So I guess all of a sudden the right is being victimized by the gun-toting lefties now? You right-wingers don’t see how a 2nd amendment warrior such as Palin putting crosshairs on map of specific people is a bit irresponsible considering her base? Have you ever read comments posted on her and other right-wing politicians’ Facebook pages? It’s pretty f-ing scary.

He couldn’t denounce the thug Hoffa on his own show because that would not allow him to show his hypocrisy now.

Go on…

Why is it libs demand civility from everyone but themselves? The Repubs were fine with getting into the gutter with your lib pigs but you guys always started whining about civility- see Tucson shooting.

But after that clarion call for civility, we see:

“The TP can go straight to hell.
“The TPs want to see us hanging from trees.”

“The TPs are terrorists.”

Then Perry says printing too much money was close to treasonous and suddenly the whining libs are screaming “how uncivil is that? This has got to stop!”

LOL

And now, “We have got to wipe out theses SOBs.”

I love the lib hypocrisy!

No, I would be much more interested in your pretzel logic of calling for civility in discourse as you libs say:

“The TP can go straight to hell.”The TPs want to see us hanging from trees.”"The TPs are terrorists.”
“We have got to wipe out these SOBs.”

Obama ” We have them in our sights.”

You libs were calling for civility or something?

You right-wingers don’t see how a 2nd amendment warrior such as Palin putting crosshairs on map of specific people is a bit irresponsible considering her base? ”

Well, considering she got the idea from a liberal Dem  posting in 2004——— why is that irresponsible?

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

Ouch!

Put the water down just for one day Tommy, it must be such a burden.

Yes I’m sure Palin picked up the idea to use a sniper rifle’s crosshairs from an obscure article written seven years ago in a magazine I’ve never heard of that uses archery targets as the symbols.

I notice you ignored my other points entirely and focused on what you thought was a great comeback.

I’m still waiting on “PabIo’s” expanded explanation.

But while I’m waiting I can address your post. Even though it’s aimed at “libs” and I’m not a lib, I’ll give it the old college try:

“The TP can go straight to hell.” — I agree with this statement for many reasons.

“The TPs want to see us hanging from trees.” — I find this type of discourse uncalled for and pathetic. And I don’t agree with him that all Tea baggers are racist. They’re more like a mass of brainwashed people who consider themselves to be elite, but are as far as you can get from it.

“The TPs are terrorists.” — I wouldn’t call them terrorists but I would call them bullies with guns.

“We have got to wipe out these SOBs.” — No problem with this statement since he’s referring to getting them out of office. Also, if you’re trying to discredit a union head because of his crude delivery and language you probably don’t know much about unions.

Obama ” We have them in our sights.” — It’s an everyday phrase we all use. i have no problem with him saying this and neither would you if you weren’t so blinded by an “us vs. them” mentality.

Anything else?

Come on now. We all know that Scarborough’s face has been fully ensconeced in Barack Hussein Obama’s crotch for the better part of three years now. 
 
It’s amazing he can even breath seeing as he’s so attached at the _____ like that.

“Then Perry says printing too much money was close to treasonous and suddenly the whining libs are screaming “how uncivil is that? This has got to stop!”

That wasn’t a matter of civility. It pertains more to Perry’s outright stupidity.

“Then Perry says printing too much money was close to treasonous and suddenly the whining libs are screaming “how uncivil is that? This has got to stop!”

That wasn’t a matter of civility. It pertains more to Perry’s outright stupidity.

“It is fair, though, to point out that Scarborough wasn’t on the premises when Hoffa made the comments.”

I had to really look for it but at least it was in the article.  For the record, Mika and Willie were also not there. I’m not sure I agree with Joe’s outrage today…I keep reading Hoffa’s comments yesterday were taken out of context…but since Joe wasn’t there on the day the comments were made on Morning Joe, this article is a non story.

Whose blood are you referring to?

And if Hoffa’s got blood on his hands then Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are swimming in it.

There was nothing wrong with the “complete quote” that Hoffa made on Joe’s show just as there was nothing wrong with the “complete quote” he said in Detroit.

Get over it hypocrites.  We can read you just fine and trying to break up the unions has just caused a lot of previous republicans to see you for what you really are.

Wasn’t Sarah Palin the one who started calling Obama a terrorist back in October 2008?  In fact, I recall watching her speech and noting someone in the audience yelling “Kill him” and she didn’t even stop and address the remark as unacceptable.  Same thing for McCain. 

So, republicans.;  You got blood on your hands, it is tough to see any other DNA, isn’t it?

You are so funny.  Did you think his weapon was a wet noodle? Or, was it Sarah Palin’s gun that you re-load and aim?

The Koch Brothers are gearing up for buying off another election – the election of 2012.  THey are holding campaign donations in the millionaire and billionaire classes.  One such ‘private” party was audio taped recently by an insider.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62732.html

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/09/koch-obama-and-saddam-hussein

But she didn’t pick up the rhetoric of “Don’t retreat, re-load and aim for Democrats”.

Probably because the thuggery you are speaking of no longer exists in today’s world. I’m not going to say that a person has to be racist to be a party of the Tea Party, but I do believe that the majority are indeed, racist.  Otherwise, don’t you find it rather strange that the Tea Party didn’t even exist until January 2009 despite the fact that the Bush administration was in the process of DOUBLING our national debt for the previous 8 years (6 of which he and his republican congress spent out of control).???

Is this just a coincidence or was the election of Obama the real reason for organizing a Tea Party?

Maybe you should share Rush Limbaugh’s complete statement so we can better understand why anyone would object to using “shot his wad”.  Maybe Rush is just jealous that someone has the capability of shooting their wad whereas he is so fat I think….not.

When you’re introducing Mr. “Let’s put politics aside” and you’re declaring a civil war, he’s obligated to check you on it.

Yeah, look at all those broken up unions. Snif.

This is petty. If you watch Morning Joe consistently, you know that he doesn’t shy away from calling out liberals right to their faces with not only passion, but down right anger. You’re grasping at straws. The languate used by Hoffa on the set was not as inciteful, not that I particlularly agree with it, and could be interpreted differently. Lets comment on real issues rather than rehashing political rheteric and nonsense for which both the left and the right are responsible.  

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“Even if I am being conservative, I don’t see how Obama can lose,” says Lichtman, the brains behind The Keys to the White House.
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In 2005, Lichtman also hit a home run when he said that the political stage was looking so bad for Republicans that Democrats could pick a name out of the phone book and win in 2008, the year a little known first-term senator became the first African-American to win the presidency.
Now Lichtman’s predicting a repeat performance by Obama.

typical democrat hypocrisy they can say whatever but anyone else must live by rules that they keep changing.   Worst part is the media backs them on it and allows their hypocrisy …   And BTW mediaite   Scarbrough is no longer conservative if you did your homework he rarely speaks up anymore MSNBC after he made the comment to that skank Mika ” I know its part of your contract to support the president”…  He had to sign the same contract and he is now a shill for obama most of the time!

Wipe the SOB’s out, with the BALLOTS, not bullets. Where is the outrage when the republican committee in AZ auctioned off a GLOCK and a rifle to earn money for election expenses. All in the state where the use of such gun killed many and injured GIFFORDS. WORKFORCE AMERICA needs to win elections and replace the TBAGGERS who are more loyal to the US of AMERICA, than they are to the fantasy of a TPARTY NATION.