I think it’s great! Olbermann could stand to be educated.

Having said that, I think it’s really sad that without Fox, Bill O, Palin, and Beck, Olberbite would have nothing to say.

Talk about a Fish out of Water!

Seems like the disgraced sportscaster is still trolling for some work environment where he’s not totally despised by his peers!

Keith Olbermann’s Mom Evicts Him from Basement

http://www.thedailyrash.com/?p=1824

He doesn’t elaborate because he can’t elaborate. That would mean dealing with the facts and that’s not his strong suit. He’s a much better name caller. Ironic, really. I mean, which is more worthless- the person teaching history or the one calling names?

The Declaration of Independence states, “[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It also states that these rights are “self evident” and that they constitute the “Laws of Nature.” These principles are taken directly from the Bible.

The Law of Nature can be viewed in Romans 2:14-16. That our Creator is the Author of life is seen in Genesis 2:7. That God, not government, grants liberty is seen in Galatians 5:1. The “pursuit of happiness” is found in Ecclesiastes 3:13.

Beyond that, virtually every one of the ten articles contained in the Bill of Rights has Biblical foundation.
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin114.htm

Our Declaration of Independence was, undoubtedly, a political document. But it also emerged in a time when the Bible was the principal literary record. The Bible had a powerful influence on the thoughts contained in the Declaration and this fact shouldn’t be ignored. While the words in the Declaration did not come directly from the Bible, the sentiment that was underneath what was expressed came from the one book that was read throughout the colonies – the Bible.

It was James Madison who said, “We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government… according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

As Andrew Jackson was dying, he looked at the family Bible and said to his doctor, “That book, sir, is the rock on which our Republic rests.”
http://www.americanbible.org/absport/news/item.php?id=206

In Congress, July 4, 1776 (John 19:30)

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America (Matthew 10:1)

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another… (Exodus 5)

…and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them… (Joshua 1)

…a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. (2 Timothy 4:2)

We hold these truths to be self-evident… (John 8:32)

…that all men are created equal… (Romans 1:20-21; Galatians 3:28)

…that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights… (Romans 8:35-39)

…that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. (Luke 4:16-21; John 10:10)

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed… (Jeremiah 18:7-10)

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government… (Exodus 6:1-6)

…laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. (Deuteronomy 17:18-20)

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes… (Titus 3:1-2)

…and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable… (Colossians 3:12-17)

…than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. (Colossians 4:5-6)

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations… (Psalm 35:11-17)

…pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism… (Exodus 1:14)

…it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government… (Psalm 107:13-15)

…and to provide new guards for their future security… (Galatians 5:1)

— Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies… (1 Peter 4:12-19)

…and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. (2 Corinthians 5:16-21)

— The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. (Job 20:27)

To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. (Jeremiah 16:17)

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5909&posts=1

“If you Google the Declaration, 27 points from the Bible, you‘ll get probably thousands of hits. Because basically he usually just—he doesn‘t go into detail of where he gets this from in his other presentations. But he says all 27 points are based on the Bible. And people just keep parroting that and parroting that.”

Maybe Chris needs to actually go to google….

How is it that she says, “He doesn’t go into detail of where he gets this from” when he cites the source? How is it that she confuses a sermon with the Bible?

I thought the Left was supposed to be the smart people?

I got the name for their NCAA sports teams: The Bullshitters!

The mascot can be that bison on the emblem doing his buisness! :D

A guest from Huff Post agreed with Keith? Imagine that.

Well..at least Queefy Uberdouche will learn more there than he did at the cow collge he bought his diploma from..

This is hysterical. Greg Gutfield and Ann Coulter rip on Queefy Uberdouche for his communications degree from a cow college.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwLuW1QcZI&feature=player_embedded#!

Ratings…….or atleast trying, thats the whole part of the schtick here for OB1….when this epically fails like everthing else has on his show, dont be surprised if he starts doing his show in the nude…..

What did Queefy Uberdouche study to get his communications degree from the farm college??

…hog calling?

sarainitaly said:Our Declaration of Independence was, undoubtedly, a political document. But it also emerged in a time when the Bible was the principal literary record. The Bible had a powerful influence on the thoughts contained in the Declaration and this fact shouldn’t be ignored. While the words in the Declaration did not come directly from the Bible, the sentiment that was underneath what was expressed came from the one book that was read throughout the colonies – the Bible.

We can’t discount that Jefferson also condered other sources for his inspiration, namely:
- the 1689 English Declaration of Rights, whcih deal with the same issuse of of how to end the reign of an unjust king
- Emerich de Vattel, the Swiss legal expert and philospoher who’s The Law of Nations was used as a source to argue for America’s soverigntry
- the philosophers popular within this period, the Age of Enlightenment: Hobbes, Locke, Hume
Not one source, especially the Bible, was excusively to the DoI’s writing. I doubt David Barton will mention them.

Glenn Beck University? Didn’t know they gave out degrees in paranoia.

LOL!

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/09/keith-olbermanns-cast-of-nodding-puppets-agree-%E2%80%94-keith-olbermann-knows-what-keith-olbermanns-talking-about-we-watch-because-were-paid-to/

This may be the closest Olbermann ever gets to Becks ratings.

torgman said:
Not one source, especially the Bible, was excusively to the DoI’s writing. I doubt David Barton will mention them.

I’m not religious, but could care less if the inspiration came from the bible. Considering the bible has been around forever, I have no doubt it has crept into our founding documents. I also have no doubt that your references played a roll.

My point is that Olby and Chris from Huff Po apparently failed to bother to check out where Barton was coming from.

Barney said:
Well..at least Queefy Uberdouche will learn more there than he did at the cow collge he bought his diploma from..

Cornell University is a cow college? We better tell Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Keyes and Ann Coulter that their diplomas are worhtless. :D

This will be the first education KO has ever received.

torgman said:
Cornell University is a cow college? We better tell Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Keyes and Ann Coulter that their diplomas are worhtless. :D

Ann Coulter and Keith Olbermann are engaged in a bizarre but real feud over their alma mater, Cornell University.

Earlier this week, Coulter wrote a column trashing Olbermann and alleging that he didn’t attend “the real Cornell” because he went to one of the University’s state schools, the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (known as the Ag School).

Coulter wrote that Olbermann “is constantly lying about his nonexistent ‘Ivy League’ education” despite the fact that he “didn’t go to the Ivy League Cornell; he went to the Old MacDonald Cornell.”

The real Cornell, the School of Arts and Sciences (average SAT: 1,325; acceptance rate: 1 in 6 applicants), is the only Ivy League school at Cornell and the only one that grants a Bachelor of Arts degree.

Keith went to an affiliated state college at Cornell, the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (average SAT: about that of pulling guards at the University of South Carolina; acceptance rate: 1 of every 1.01 applicants).

Olbermann’s incessant lying about having an “Ivy League education” when he went to the non-Ivy League ag school at Cornell would be like a graduate of the Yale locksmithing school boasting about being a “Yale man.”

Olbermann responded on “Countdown” Thursday night, naming Coulter one of his Worst Persons in the World and displaying his Cornell degree for all to see.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/06/keith-olbermann-ann-coult_n_172438.html

He went to cow college.

Wow one moron learning from another. And this is what our media has come to…..

Barton uses the actual letters from our Founding Fathers (he has the largest private collection of actual documents from that era) and he can quote his sources like nothing I have ever seen. I interviewed him for an article and he is spot on in everything he says. He also pulls in facts from history textbooks prior to 1900. Olbermann is using progressive talking points from modern historian who have been seriously debunked.

But truth and facts shouldn’t get in the way when you have an agenda to push.

Whether the Declaration takes thoughts from the Bible may be debatable, but what is interesting is that KO and libs find just the thought of that possibility to be anathema. More proof that libs are soulless Neanderthals who chose “Man” over God.

“Keith Olbermann’s Mom Evicts Him from Basement”-MichelleF

His mom is deceased.

sarainitaly said:
I’m not religious, but could care less if the inspiration came from the bible. Considering the bible has been around forever, I have no doubt it has crept into our founding documents. I also have no doubt that your references played a roll. My point is that Olby and Chris from Huff Po apparently failed to bother to check out where Barton was coming from.

True, they shoud’ve had a basis for their disagreement. My point, though, is that Barton’s expertise is, at best, seriously weak; his focus is that America is strictly a Christain nation and he will never mention anything else that doubts, much less counters, that focus.

sarainitaly, go to Cornell’s website and you will find the college makes no distinction between Ivy and “non-Ivy.” It’s all Ivy League. (IL refers to sports.)

sarainitaly said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/06/keith-olbermann-ann-coult_n_172438.html He went to cow college.

Did HuffPo check out whether Ann said was true? Did she have “footnotes”? I trust her facts like I trust Trivial Pursuit’s.

“libs are soulless Neanderthals who chose “Man” over God”-notsofast

Millions of religious liberals = you’re wrong.

I just find this humorous….I would have done the same thing if I was in Olby’s position. Why not?

feasibilitystud said:
“Keith Olbermann’s Mom Evicts Him from Basement”-MichelleF His mom is deceased.

The Daily Rash is as funny as breast cancer.

Word is, Keith has already proven himself to be a standout student, & has received some ~special recognition~ too!

Somebody even snapped a pic! Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/26cqoyl

Who is Keith Olbermann?

What is Keith Olbermann?

Steamboater said:
Glenn Beck University? Didn’t know they gave out degrees in paranoia.

They also have a hell of the party whenever they ransack the dean’s old stash :D

@sarainitialy

Here are the actual quotes from the Bible
And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Matthew 10.1

5And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens. Exodus 5

Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses’ minister, saying, Joshua 1

I don’t know how anyone can make a connection to the declaration here.

feasibilitystud said:
sarainitaly, go to Cornell’s website and you will find the college makes no distinction between Ivy and “non-Ivy.” It’s all Ivy League. (IL refers to sports.)

i really don’t give a rats ass about it, i just think it is hysterical that Olby felt the need to bring his diploma and show it on tv. It is pure comedy. I think it’s too funny that [Olby supporters] feel the need to defend him about it…

I’m sure perfectly normal people attended the cow division at Cornell.

Where is Keith’s Worst Person clip? In it, he names Beck Worst Person for asking why there is no footage of the Late Senator Byrd Filibustering the Civil Rights Bill. Keith then schooled this idiot by noting that they didn’t televise these proceedings until 1986. Beck is a dumb ass who claims to be a student of history but, he didn’t know this? This is why he’s a joke! How do you teach when you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about? One thing is clear. He’s spreading his stupidity to those who watch him. No wonder they sound so ignorant.

Most liberals are believers. It’s kinda strange to say that Atheists chose Man over God. They don’t believe in invisible beings so it’s not a choice it just is.

“What did [Olbermann] study to get his communications degree from the farm college?”-Barney

Communication, not “communications.” From Cornell’s website:

“The Department of Communication at Cornell University is the focal point at which the principles of basic communication converge and coexist with media, science, and technology.

@ Sarainitialy
You should check those bible quotes before posting. That’s Beck’s MO.

Cornell is a prestigious. Where did Beck go? Just curious.

Ah Rox, spreading her rays of sunshine again. Please take your meds for Beck Derangement Syndrome and leave us adults to have a conversation.

Beck was asking a rhetorical question, pointing out that the left will never accuse one of their own of racism. Case in point: Is Keith covering the black panther story? He’s always so concerned about white racism, seems like he’d at least have something to say about that “killing white babies” comment. What’s wrong, Keith? Didn’t hear about it?

but could care less if
__________________________

COULDN’T care less…it’s “couldn’t care less”.
If you could care less, you would care less….think about it.
It’s I COULD NOT CARE LESS….

the rest of what you said is even dumber, but let’s START with THAT.

Cindy, you are typical lib that thinks just because someone went to harvard or some other prestigious college, they are somehow better than those who didn’t. Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t. Case in point, Obama; he’s supposedly a genius, yet doesn’t understand basic economics. He supposedly taught law (though you if zoom in on the pix of his chalkboard, he’s actually teaching Saul Ainsky tactics 101), yet he’s too stupid to understand what the AZ immigration law says. The condescending liberal schtick is getting tired.

sarainitaly said:
The Declaration of Independence states, “[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It also states that these rights are “self evident” and that they constitute the “Laws of Nature.” These principles are taken directly from the Bible.

My “Creator” is the Big Bang. THat is self evident to me when I study science since the same atoms that are in a star are also in all of us. Yes!! Laws of Nature. :)

The American revolution was not Biblically inspired nor was the US build on Bible principles..unless you mean slavery which was one of the principles approved of in the Bible and allowed in the colonies and the new nation.

I am not going to argue the point but what some are doing is finding Bible quotes AFTER the fact and reading in to them what they want to see.

But that selective quoting fails to give the true picture of what the Bible says … here are some more Bible principles to examine and this is the side of the Bible that some dont want you do know.. Tell me how this fits in with American principles..

You must kill those who worship another god.  Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own.  Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you.  Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own.  Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah.  Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him.  Jude 5
 

Don’t associate with non-Christians.  Don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them.  2 John 1:10
Shun those who disagree with your religious views.  Romans 16:17
Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8
 

Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22
Christians are “of God;” everyone else is wicked. 1 John 5:19
The non-Christian is “a deceiver and an anti-Christ” 2 John 1:7
Anyone who doesn’t share Paul’s beliefs has “an evil heart.” Hebrews 3:12
False Jews are members of “the synagogue of Satan.” Revelations 2:9, 3:9

  The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). 

And of course we have numerous records of murder and killing in the name of god the most famous one of which is the murder of all the firstborn of the Egyptians because their pharaoh was giving the Jews a hard time. Tell me what these people did to suffer this? They did not elect their pharaoh and had no say in what he did. Further the Bible specifically states God hardened the heard of the Pharaoh so he would not let the Israelis go. How is this any different from the murder of the babies by King Herod?

No the US was not founded on Christian principles.. Thank God for that!

Cindy Johnson said:
@ Sarainitialy
You should check those bible quotes before posting. That’s Beck’s MO.

I did check them out. Some make absolutely no sense to me, and others are quite relevant. I’m sure for those who studied the bible and DoI make more sense out of it than I do.

They are not from Beck, or have anything to do with Beck. Perhaps before you post comments like that, you should check it out first.

MichelleF said:
Cindy, you are typical lib that thinks just because someone went to harvard or some other prestigious college, they are somehow better than those who didn’t. Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t. Case in point, Obama; he’s supposedly a genius, yet doesn’t understand basic economics. He supposedly taught law (though you if zoom in on the pix of his chalkboard, he’s actually teaching Saul Ainsky tactics 101), yet he’s too stupid to understand what the AZ immigration law says. The condescending liberal schtick is getting tired.

Wow! You sure presumed a lot from that question. How did you make such a leap? That’s called assumption. You should never assume.

“i really don’t give a rats ass about it”-sarainitaly

You “don’t give a rat’s ass,” but ran to find an old article about it and post the whole thing. Just like you “could care less” whether the Constitution was based on the Bible — just somehow felt compelled to publish every supporting Bible passage. Who’s kidding whom, Miss Sara? ;-)

sarainitaly said:
I did check them out. Some make absolutely no sense to me, and others are quite relevant. I’m sure for those who studied the bible and DoI make more sense out of it than I do. They are not from Beck, or have anything to do with Beck. Perhaps before you post comments like that, you should check it out first.

WTF? They don’t make sense at all. I teach ancient world history and ancient world religions. You can find a hell of a lot more connections to those text than ANYTHING in the Declaration or Constitution.

Dona Barone said:
the rest of what you said is even dumber, but let’s START with THAT.

I couldn’t care less what you have to say.
When you have nothing substantial to say, criticize someone’s typos.
Way to go.

I am a former conservative and now a very proud LIBERAL. I love that name tag and where it proudly. I left the conservative party when I found out that Fox News was hiding a lot of information for me. I started checking things out for myself. A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other. I will find study if you like.

Sara, I don’t know about you, but I wish I were as smart as Rox, Dona, and Cindy.

feasibilitystud said:
You “don’t give a rat’s ass,” but ran to find an old article about it and post the whole thing. Just like you “could care less” whether the Constitution was based on the Bible — just somehow felt compelled to publish every supporting Bible passage. Who’s kidding whom, Miss Sara? ;-)

I don’t give a rats ass where Olby went to school, or to spend time looking up how Cornell classifies his diploma. I care a lot about his bringing his diploma to his TV show, making an ass of himself. That is worth my time. The other, not so much.

I don’t care that/if the founding documents were in part attributed to the bible. I am not bothered by it. It doesn’t influence my opinion of the documents, if they were, in part, pulled from the bible, and old, and quite well regarded book. I spent a couple of minutes looking for sources to show how easy it was, based on Olby and Chris’s ridicule that Beck’Barton’s assertions were unfounded. That was worth my time.

Cindy Johnson said:
Cornell is a prestigious. Where did Beck go? Just curious.

He didn’t. Joe Leiberman pulled a few strings to get him into Yale a whileback, but he dropped out after a semester. He’s now educationally on par with el Rusho.

MichelleF said:
Sara, I don’t know about you, but I wish I were as smart as Rox, Dona, and Cindy.

LOL!

A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other

First off, it’s IraQ and not irag and Fox was merely pointing to what Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Harry Reid, the UK, and most everyone else was saying. Good riddance, your ignorance will serve you well in the liberal nuthouse!

@Michelle

There are many schools of thought on economics and there is more than one way to get the economy going. Conservative way is to cut taxes for the rich. Some agree that will initially stimulate econmy but in long run will further spread gap between rich and poor.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I prefer the route that gives more money to middle class and poor. the rich have enough and they didn’t make that money on their own. I would like to see someone make a million ALL by themselves.

Cindy Johnson said:
WTF? They don’t make sense at all. I teach ancient world history and ancient world religions. You can find a hell of a lot more connections to those text than ANYTHING in the Declaration or Constitution.

Then you obviously didn’t check every passage, because some of them were quite relevant. And as I also said, I have no doubt that our founding documents can be attributed to many other documents as well. So, your comments are really irrelevant to what I was saying.

sarainitaly said:
Then you obviously didn’t check every passage, because some of them were quite relevant. And as I also said, I have no doubt that our founding documents can be attributed to many other documents as well. So, your comments are really irrelevant to what I was saying.

Then your posting was irrelevent.

the rich have enough and they didn’t make that money on their own

That’s is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I’ve every heard! To say that no one who’s rich made tha $$ on their own. Wow!! I think you should stop talking in an effort to avoid anymore embarrassment.

MichelleF said:
A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other First off, it’s IraQ and not irag and Fox was merely pointing to what Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Harry Reid, the UK, and most everyone else was saying. Good riddance, your ignorance will serve you well in the liberal nuthouse!

Actually verbal attacks are ignorant. Apologise for mispelling, typing too fast. Do you know the study i mentioned because the comment wasn’t referring to it?

Dona Barone said:
but could care less if
__________________________

COULDN’T care less…it’s “couldn’t care less”.
If you could care less, you would care less….think about it.
It’s I COULD NOT CARE LESS….

the rest of what you said is even dumber, but let’s START with THAT.

Now that we started with THAT, why don’t you entertain us with your wisdom, and explain to me what exactly was so dumb about what I said in that post.

“I’m not religious, but could[n't] care less if the inspiration came from the bible. Considering the bible has been around forever, I have no doubt it has crept into our founding documents. I also have no doubt that your references played a roll.

My point is that Olby and Chris from Huff Po apparently failed to bother to check out where Barton was coming from.”

“Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t” = something said by people who didn’t go to college. Not only is it sour grapes, it’s not true: a college degree greatly increases the likelihood you’ll earn more $$$ after graduation, which makes even a 2-yr degree a very smart investment. No guarantee you’ll get rich, but you really should further your formal education if you can.

feasibilitystud says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm feasibilitystud(Quote)
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“Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t” = something said by people who didn’t go to college. Not only is it sour grapes, it’s not true: a college degree greatly increases the likelihood you’ll earn more $$$ after graduation, which makes even a 2-yr degree a very smart investment. No guarantee you’ll get rich, but you really should further your formal education if you can.

I don’t believe I said it wasn’t a good investment. I said that just the act of going to college doesn’t make you better or smarter. Some of the wealthiest people I know didn’t go to college.

MichelleF said:
the rich have enough and they didn’t make that money on their own That’s is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I’ve every heard! To say that no one who’s rich made tha $$ on their own. Wow!! I think you should stop talking in an effort to avoid anymore embarrassment.

Do you honestly think someone can make money completely on their own? Not unless they rob a bank. Does someone in real estate not have any business associates>? How about the family that rents the house or apartment from the real eastate tycoon? I have had rental property and was thankful for good renters without them I would not have done so well.

Vietnameravet said:
No the US was not founded on Christian principles.

You’re confused. Again.

Otherwise, you’d know that for practicing Christians, the Old Testament (which you so gleefully quoted) is merely a history lesson, to be studied so that we can comprehend how bad things were here on earth, before the coming of Christ.

However, I do realize that the concept I just described is a rather complex set of thoughts, that people with room temperature IQ’s, & a smug self cloistered field of experience, will always have a difficult time understanding.

But, nice try!

Maybe next post you’ll actually get something that’s right.

But I won’t be holding my breath, waiting for you to figure something, make that anything at all that’s complicated out on your own. Being that so far, experience shows it’s very unlikely to happen.

sarainitaly said:
I’m not religious, but could[n't] care less if the inspiration came from the bible. Considering the bible has been around forever

The Bible is one of the lastest religious texts not earliest. Koran is even later. The Bible is a collection of older texts from various Eastern religions from the Mesopotamian area. Google “Epic of Gilgamesh”. Baal the Mesopotamian God is mentioned in the Bible.

torgman said:
He didn’t. Joe Leiberman pulled a few strings to get him into Yale a whileback, but he dropped out after a semester. He’s now educationally on par with el Rusho.

Oh Wow!!! Now that’s funny!!!! Do you mean Rush didn’t graduate either? “Slapping forehead.”

“I don’t give a rats ass where Olby went to school, or to spend time looking up how Cornell classifies his diploma.-sarainitaly

Kinda irresponsible if you’re not fact-checking what you post.

Just Tex said:
You’re confused. Again. Otherwise, you’d know that for practicing Christians, the Old Testament (which you so gleefully quoted) is merely a history lesson, to be studied so that we can comprehend how bad things were here on earth, before the coming of Christ. However, I do realize that the concept I just described is a rather complex set of thoughts, that people with room temperature IQ’s, & a smug self cloistered field of experience, will always have a difficult time understanding. But, nice try! Maybe next post you’ll actually get something that’s right. But I won’t be holding my breath, waiting for you to figure something, make that anything at all that’s complicated out on your own. Being that so far, experience shows it’s very unlikely to happen.

Vietnamveter uses proof to back his point. Tex uses verbal attacks. Brilliant :P

MichelleF said:
I said that just the act of going to college doesn’t make you better or smarter.

Precisely. Intelligence just can’t be taught. It is predominantly inherent in nature.

Although, to some degree it can be drawn out & somewhat inspired, if critical thinking skills & a yearning for knowledge are treated as focal points, from very early on within childhood development.

Otherwise, the Left wouldn’t be so monolithic about keeping kids in dumbed-down public (unionized) schools, and so rabidly opposed to educational vouchers.

Who was it on this board (commenter Moderate?) who said “MSNBC is the network about Fox News” (or something like that)????

Whoever it was is brilliant. Mediaite continues to hype MSNBC, trash FNC, and pretty much ignore CNN (with the exception of an occasional story).

Too funny.

The lefties rule here, for sure, but continuing to point out what a loon Olbermann is is a good thing. Keep it up.

MSNBC=meltdown

Yes, libs, thefounding fathers didn’t believe and God and didn’t inculcate the Declaration with such beliefs, right?

“We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, ….”" And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor. ”

Libs hate God. But the founders did not. Stop trying to re-write history.

Oh Wow!!! Now that’s funny!!!! Do you mean Rush didn’t graduate either? “Slapping forehead.”

And yet he makes about $40 million a year. He’s laughing too, all the way to the bank. You seem to have alot of hatred towards those who are successful. Typical lib.

Cindy Johnson said:
Tex uses verbal attacks.

Hardly. I stated fact, in response to Vietnamveter’s blather.

But, it’s not at all surprising both you & he don’t understand the difference between fact & blather. Being that knowing the difference involves somewhat of an intellectual pursuit.

Just Tex said:
Precisely. Intelligence just can’t be taught. It is predominantly inherent in nature.
Although, to some degree it can be drawn out & somewhat inspired, if critical thinking skills & a yearning for knowledge are treated as focal points, from very early on within childhood development.

Most educators would disagree here. Critical thinking must be practiced and can not be practiced unless all the facts are known. Going to college certainly increases one knowledge and give one the knowledge that no one can possibly know everything but we must seek out all the facts we can in order to then think critically on those facts.

Hey MichelleF (aka Einstein) – I wish you were simply as smart as a Kumquat.

Everyone – Listen, MichelleF (aka Einstein) is a shut-in which is why she posts all day long. You know the cheeto’s and Big Gulp lady – that’s Michellef (aka Einstein). So when she calls anyone ignorant, just remember that she is like the 300 lb’er telling others they are too fat. She gives new meaning to the term ignoramus; but my guess that she values that, after all, she’s a racist tea-bagger, that’s right MichelleF, racist tea-bagger.

Just Tex said:
Hardly. I stated fact, in response to Vietnamveter’s blather. But, it’s not at all surprising both you & he don’t understand the difference between fact & blather. Being that knowing the difference involves somewhat of an intellectual pursuit.

You stated opinion, not facts. This is really getting quite sad. I can’t help you if you don’t know the difference between fact and opinion.

Ted said:
Hey MichelleF (aka Einstein) – I wish you were simply as smart as a Kumquat. Everyone – Listen, MichelleF (aka Einstein) is a shut-in which is why she posts all day long. You know the cheeto’s and Big Gulp lady – that’s Michellef (aka Einstein). So when she calls anyone ignorant, just remember that she is like the 300 lb’er telling others they are too fat. She gives new meaning to the term ignoramus; but my guess that she values that, after all, she’s a racist tea-bagger, that’s right MichelleF, racist tea-bagger.

Dat teddy, want to be kissing on Obammas rectum, again dawgs!

The only people who take David Barton seriously are people inclined to think what he says in the first place. 24% of the people in this country don’t believe in evolution. Glenn Beck is living proof that you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.

Barton is a historical revisionist, revising even his own understanding of history to score propaganda points on The Glenn Beck Show. See http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/david-bartons-revisionist-claim-on.html for details.

See The Glenn Beck Review for in-depth analysis of Beck’s honesty, political values and methods of communication (besides his phony, online university.)

MichelleF said:
Oh Wow!!! Now that’s funny!!!! Do you mean Rush didn’t graduate either? “Slapping forehead.” And yet he makes about $40 million a year. He’s laughing too, all the way to the bank. You seem to have alot of hatred towards those who are successful. Typical lib.

Another assumption Michelle. I have no hatred. I am not insulting anyone merely stating surprise that people would actually take someone without a college dgree serious when it comes to political matters and critical thinking. If you have gone to college which I am sure you have then you know what I mean.

26% don’t know which country the USA fought to get its independence.

“I don’t believe I said it wasn’t a good investment. I said that just the act of going to college doesn’t make you better or smarter.”-MichelleF

You acknowledge that college is a good investment. And you gotta admit, people who make good investments are smarter than people who don’t make good investments. So the act of going to college proves you’re smarter than someone who didn’t. It means you’re not counting on being one of those exceptions to the rule who got rich without much formal education. (Btw, some of those exceptions are superbly self-educated; but one way or another, they would tell you, you need to study to get ahead.)

Cindy Johnson said:
Google “Epic of Gilgamesh”.

Of course that gibberish is going to make sense to you. Being that it would have been impossible for God to have revealed himself in tiny ways and in tiny steps, that could have been much more easily misconstrued.

After all, being omnipotent must have it’s limits… Right?

lol

feasibilitystud said:
And you gotta admit, people who make good investments are smarter than people who don’t make good investments.

That does not follow at all. Many smart investors have lost money on what seemed to be sound investments. College doesn’t make you smarter, it makes you more knowledgeable.

Please, Please my Conservative friends pick up a book and read it. Start with a good novel and move into the more difficult nonfiction texts.

An excellent nonfiction text is Lies My Teacher Told Me by Loewen. Even conservatives love this book.

Cindy Johnson said:
Then your posting was irrelevent.

That was just stupid. and wrong.

“The Bible is one of the lastest religious texts not earliest. ” Did I say otherwise? I know it is at least 2000 years old, but didn’t know the exact year for the old testament.

feasibilitystud says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:54 pm (Quote)
“I don’t give a rats ass where Olby went to school, or to spend time looking up how Cornell classifies his diploma.-sarainitaly

“Kinda irresponsible if you’re not fact-checking what you post.”

What’s to fact check? He did go to the Agri division of Cornell. He trotted out his diploma to prove it. The matter of whether Cornell considers their Agri division as Ivy League is really silly isn’t it? Of course they do.

And if the cow college Olby went to is as equal to the other school at Cornell, why does it cost a whole lot less – as admitted by Olby?

Some of the people on here really could stand to lighten up, and enjoy a good chuckle every now and then.

Cindy Johnson said:
Please, Please my Conservative friends pick up a book and read it. Start with a good novel and move into the more difficult nonfiction texts.

An excellent nonfiction text is Lies My Teacher Told Me by Loewen. Even conservatives love this book.

I bet your lips and feet move when you try to read.

Just Tex said:
Of course that gibberish is going to make sense to you. Being that it would have been impossible for God to have revealed himself in tiny ways and in tiny steps, that could have been much more easily misconstrued. After all, being omnipotent must have it’s limits… Right? lol

“laughing hysterically” Do you mean to tell me you REALLY believe that stuff? So much for critical thinking. I give upTex.

GlennBeckReview said:
The only people who take David Barton seriously are

people that worship at the base of all those college Ivory Towers?!

I mean, after all, David Barton does have a Bachelor of Arts degree.

Doesn’t that make him super duper smart?!

Cindy Johnson said:
“laughing hysterically”

Hysteria fits you very well. Although, Leftist blind faith coupled with self inspired ignorance, does tend to reveal that trait.

Just Tex – well I don’t know about super-dooper smart, but apparently it mean he is qualified to teach at Beck U. The Daily Show couldn’t write comedy this funny. Okay, maybe they can.

Cindy Johnson said:
Please my Conservative friends pick up a book and read it. Start with a good novel and move into the more difficult nonfiction texts.

Why would anyone want to waste time reading that mind numbed pap, when one could use that time very constructively, studying John Locke, Adam Smith, Aristotle, or even the Federalist Papers, instead?

Ted said:
I don’t know about super-dooper smart

Of course you don’t.

And believe me, nobody here that has bothered to read more than a just few of your posts, would ever contest that thought.

Ted said:
Just Tex – well I don’t know about super-dooper smart, but apparently it mean he is qualified to teach at Beck U. The Daily Show couldn’t write comedy this funny. Okay, maybe they can.

dawgs, dat teddy, he be one uneducated cracker. Dat one be thinking he can sleep with Obammas at nite. Dawgs, dat just be wrong.

Just Tex, Billy – I’m assuming you two brainiacs are related? Cue the theme to Deliverance.

sarainitaly said:
Some of the people on here really could stand to lighten up, and enjoy a good chuckle every now and then.

I’m amusing myself very well, thank you. But, I almost always manage to do that at the expense of ignorant fools.

Do you suppose that should be considered as a minor character flaw of mine?

If so, I’m really not sure that I can quit.

Frankly, it’s a helluvalot more fun than finishing this paperwork in front of me. Besides, I can easily whip that out in no time…

Ted said:
Just Tex, Billy – I’m assuming you two brainiacs are related? Cue the theme to Deliverance.

You are the only person who can eat his own weight in scat in one sitting.

The Founding Father were products of the Enlightenment. If you read the following short piece about that period, you will notice that some Enlightenment principles would be thought liberal today; others would be considered conservative or even libertarian.
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

This is an indication of how crazy political thinking has become in recent times; in the majority of cases, none of the beliefs held by the right, left and center are mutually exclusive. Children of the Enlightenment grasped that.

If we had the appreciation for economic and social complexity that the Founders did, and understood how all those philosophical pieces fit together, we might start making some progress in this country instead of allowing ourselves to be led off into the weeds by politicians always looking for phony wedge issues with which to distract us from the important work waiting to be done.

Maybe what’s needed is another Enlightenment, to get us back on track.

teddy, dat Obammas all ready married. Dawg, no room for you.

Glenn Beck U. This is good. The pitome of the expansion of the Republipunk mind!

Cindy Johnson said:
You stated opinion, not facts.

Oops. I momentarily missed this one. Now, on to the point.

As a long time practicing Christian, & one who has somewhat studied the various religions for several decades as well, I’m much more qualified to describe & reveal Christian thought, than anyone outside of that experience.

Nachi said:
Glenn Beck U. This is good. The pitome of the expansion of the Republipunk mind!

Try to learn English next time.

feasibilitystud said:
If we had the appreciation for economic and social complexity that the Founders did, and understood how all those philosophical pieces fit together, we might start making some progress in this country instead of allowing ourselves to be led off into the weeds by politicians always looking for phony wedge issues with which to distract us from the important work waiting to be done.

Maybe what’s needed is another Enlightenment, to get us back on track.

Indeed. And very well said too.

But, to come to that depth of understanding, wouldn’t we need to miss at least a few episodes of “American Idol”?

Getting back on track.

All those long hard winters in the bitter cold of the early American wilderness, coupled with great wealth generated by enormous natural resources and bountiful crops out of fertile nearly virgin soil, compelled the Founders to read an extraordinary amount of literature from around the world.

With that, the Founders were much more studied, thoughtful, creative & inventive, than their European counterparts, who spent the bulk of their time within well established urban settings, where entertainment & self indulgence consumed vast amounts, if not the bulk of their time.

That’s why Americans have managed to rule the world from shortly after our Founding, in most every endeavor we have ever applied ourselves toward. And, it also explains why our more urban based counterparts embrace European thought & lifestyles as well.

Cindy Johnson says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:28 pm Cindy Johnson(Quote)
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I am a former conservative and now a very proud LIBERAL. I love that name tag and where it proudly. I left the conservative party when I found out that Fox News was hiding a lot of information for me. I started checking things out for myself. A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other. I will find study if you like.

wouldnt it make more sense to change parties, instead of what you belive in. i think your confusing republicans with being conservative.

MichelleF said:
Oh Wow!!! Now that’s funny!!!! Do you mean Rush didn’t graduate either? “Slapping forehead.” And yet he makes about $40 million a year. He’s laughing too, all the way to the bank. You seem to have alot of hatred towards those who are successful. Typical lib.

He could make $40 trillion a year–stupid people make “alot” of money all the time. Not everyone measures success by the size of a person’s wallet, like a typical con.

feasibilitystud says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:37 pm feasibilitystud(Quote)
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“Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t” = something said by people who didn’t go to college. Not only is it sour grapes, it’s not true: a college degree greatly increases the likelihood you’ll earn more $$$ after graduation, which makes even a 2-yr degree a very smart investment. No guarantee you’ll get rich, but you really should further your formal education if you can.

what does making more money have to do with being smarter?

Ted said:
Cue the theme to Deliverance.

Isn’t that the soundtrack known to be playing, at the precise moment that you were conceived?

Btw, please tell you sister/mother that I said a very hearty “hello”…

itzmec said:
A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other. I will find study if you like.

So, there’s a “study”, huh?

Ok, I’m happy to wait a few moments, while you search for & post that link.

FYI, Google Scholar would be a very good place to begin your search.

That is, if you can figure out how to actually use the search engine device on the page…

@tex

why are you misquoting me?

Billy – something tells me you might know something about eating scat. A Thanksgiving tradition I presume? Explains why you might have B-12 deficiency. Billy, do you know what B-12 is? It’s essential for mental functioning among other things. Bet you didn’t know that; of course you didn’t.

Hey tex, I thought you weren’t reading my posts. I know, you had someone read them to you.

“The matter of whether Cornell considers their Agri division as Ivy League is really silly isn’t it? Of course they do.”-sarainitaly

So if Coulter concocts a false distinction between college degrees in order to make her degree appear more prestigious (or maybe just to belittle someone she disagrees with, thus simultaneously belittling everyone else with a similar degree), and lazy people believe it, and Olbermann takes a few minutes to correct the record, that’s a bad thing? Replacing Coulter’s lie with the truth burned very few calories, and it made clear once again why she’s no longer writing for the National Review. (Too gamy even for Rich Lowry’s rag!)

Cornell University is a cow college? We better tell Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Keyes and Ann Coulter that their diplomas are worhtless. :D

The A&Scollege that these folks attended at Cornell is part of the Ivy League. The farm school where Queefy got his communications degreee is not

Farm school communications Prof:

OK class…repeat after me..Su…su…su…suuuuuuueeeeyyyyyyy. Her piggy…Su…su..su…suuuuuuueyyyyyyyyy. Herepiggy

This is hilarious…Queefy Uberdouche is caught making a complete ass of himself….again

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/07/09/msnbc-red-faced-over-olbermann

Queeefy had better take Becks class…cuz he must have been asleep when they taught history at the cow college

I am thrilled that Uberleftists are enrolling in Glenn’s class. I know they can’t learn anything, but it will be fun to read their “take” on what they are bllind, deaf and dumb to understand. Keith, I think, may be #1 BDDer, but as I listened to Shabazz this morning, I think perhaps he outstrips poor Keith in being the #1 BDDer. Since this is probably the first time in their lives that they will not be attending a source dedicated to making them blind, deaf and dumb to the truth. But, hey, they don’t even believe their own eyes and ears when presented with their darlings own words on paper and audio. There is simply no possibility tht either of these Uberleftys will learn one iota of anything, they are not capable of it.

What is really interesting is that more people have read this article on Mediaite and commented on it than actually watch Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.

Ted said:
Hey tex, I thought you weren’t reading my posts.

What would ever make you think that?

Having a somewhat sick sense of humor, I can often times enjoy observing what amounts to vast displays of what is clearly self abuse.

You see, I’m always quite happy in nature, & fairly easy to amuse. So, by all means, just carry on as if you’re normal. Almost as if you are!

Queefy tried to slam Sharron, but kicked himself square in his own ample ass

Said Keith:

“Sharron Angle, I knew Abraham Lincoln’s won-loss record and you’re no Abraham Lincoln”

..but whoopsie

In other words, Keith Olbermann was not only wrong but so wide of the truth and the facts as to give Bill Clinton on Monica a good reputation. Sharron Angle, on the other hand, was right. Making her remark 100 percent factually correct.

None of this would matter a hill of beans for the red-faces at MSNBC if they weren’t pinning so much of their stuff to, say, mocking Glenn Beck for not knowing what he, Beck, is talking about

Billy – you seem to have a bit of a fetish for shit. Care to talk about it? I’m sure Barney would understand.

itzmec said:
@tex

why are you misquoting me?

You mean you’ve already forgotten what you posted above, just a few minutes ago?

Here, I re-quote you very precisely, again, just to make things easier for you.

itzmec said:

A study found that Fox viewers were terribly misinformed about basic things like WMD in Irag and other. I will find study if you like.

Now, I’m still waiting patiently for you to post a link to that ~“study”.

I’m all but certain it will be a fascinating read for us all.

Keith exposed the stupidity and inaccuracies of Glenn Beck…Beck as NO clue as to what he’s talking about

It’s my main man Ted ! Still trolling around on Beck posts ? I do admire your determination , you should start a blog called ” Curing Beck-phobia ” – Ways to cope with the reality that Glenn Beck is here to stay -

Ted said:
something tells me you might know something about eating scat.

Whats up with that? Does his breath smell just like yours? Nope.

His is more like…. a fast food lunch.

On the other hand, yours is more like… what you said.

ewwwwwwwwwww

murf said:
” Curing Beck-phobia ” – Ways to cope with the reality that Glenn Beck is here to stay -

That’s just cruel hahaha

If anyone cares about history, let’s all go back 7 +/- million years ago when we, hominids began this journey…and about 300,000 years ago to our ancestors, Neanderthals, came onto to the scene and finally Cro-Magnon as they loped in at around 30K or so years ago…then, we can say that the 10-13+/- thousand years of “civilizing” ourselves led to the writing down of stories, laws, regulations and prognostications that became the Torah…the basis for the Judeo-Christian philosophy that led to us, the first and possibly last great experiment on planet earth for free humans. If you are smart, you understand that our Western principles are based on what should be fair, just and true for all human beings. That hatefilled mongers have existed for hundreds of thousands of years, there is no doubt….what took over 10-15K years to achieve may be destroyed in less than 300 hundred years by those who believe they know what is best for you, me, my family, my neighbors…we are the true Americans. Those who spew hate like Keith, in what ever form: NYTimes, NPR, LATimes, La Raza, Muslim Brotherhood, Uberleft politicians, anchors, writers, ABC, CBS, NBC especially MSNBC The New Black Panther Party, Reverend Wright, William Ayers and “f##k” em Rahm Emanuel to name just a very miniscule few of that ugly army. The sad fact is that, by taking away the Bible, look what we have allowed our Society to become: no rules, no moral and no ethics.

MakeANoise said:
Beck as NO clue as to what he’s talking about

That’s a fairly broad statement.

Why don’t you enlighten us by being much more precise. Show us the quotes. And make it easy on yourself by giving us links to the official transcripts holding each & every quote you dispute.

That oughta do, it for sure.

I’m waiting to have my mind changed about Beck by MakeANoise, & by the facts he’s about to present, here & to the world!

notsofast said:
More proof that libs are soulless Neanderthals who chose “Man” over God.

If you and your behavior are an example of a “Man for God” then yeah, I’ll take the Godless version.

murf – glad to hear I am your “main man,” I should be; perhaps your posts will become more coherent with a little coaching. But based on your previous incoherent posts, I’m betting you’re one of those tea-bag types. Not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, if you know what I mean…of course you don’t. At any rate, as a tea-bagger you have an uphill battle just to get up to stupid. But for you, stupid is a lofty goal. Don’t give up my main man!!

PS – Are you on the faculty at Beck U by any chance?

Tex – I’m sorry Tex but we’re done; Jesus you’re boring.

Ted yes — I am on the Administration board at Beck U.

Unfortunatly for your SAT score is too low ..( I guess you were relying on points for your name too much? Darn. But in any case feel free to retake it !

Beck U is waiting Ted !

Maybe not, so many of the more recent posts are too interested in s###t.

Sue said:
The sad fact is that, by taking away the Bible, look what we have allowed our Society to become: no rules, no moral and no ethics.

Oh c’mon, you know as well as I do, that we still have situational ethics.

And every tyrant and despot throughout history, have used those situational ethics to justify the most evil deeds ever known to human-kind.

So, it can’t be all that bad, can it?!

To answer myself, yes it can be all that bad, whenever & wherever tyrants & despots find ways to gain control of the reins of political power.

Yikes!

murf – my main man!!! Why do I actually believe that could indeed be on the board?! Maybe it’s your scintillating posts. (Okay murf my “main man”, that’s a really big word so here’s your assignment…look it up in something called a “dictionary” and use it in a sentence).

Let me know if you have trouble.

Ted said:
I’m sorry Tex but we’re done

Do you really think that’s true?

Man, are you ever in for a very BIG surprise.

I’m not even starting to get warmed up.

Yet!

Ted I do my best to lighten up the humor around here..

Okay Tex but for the love of God man, let’s get warmed up already, you appear to be on Xanax for Christ sake.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
then yeah, I’ll take the Godless version.

What’s up with the “then?

By reading your posts here, it’s clear you already made that choice a very long time ago. So, why is always so hard to be honest??

Just be honest. Say the words:

I Big_F-ing_Deal am an avowed Atheist non-believer.

You’ll feel better (but just for a while) if you do!

Ted said:
for the love of God man

You too?

Cool!

murf – fair enough then.

“the Founders were much more studied, thoughtful, creative & inventive, than their European counterparts”-Just Tex

First of all, thank you for the nice compliment, Tex. I just wanted to discuss this one point you made because if you re-read the short piece I linked to (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment) you’ll see that when they wrote Common Sense, the Declaration, the Constitution, Federalist, all that good stuff, the Founders were so to speak standing on the shoulders of the European philosophers (Voltaire, Descartes, Diderot, etc.) who originally kicked off the Age. Yeah, gonna have to give the French their due on this one. Down with aristocrats, up with free thinkers!

(However, we beat them to the revolution by 13 years. Americans don’t fart around. :-P)

This is a long read, but worth it.

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/07/09/msnbc-red-faced-over-olbermann

Barney said:
Cornell University is a cow college? We better tell Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Keyes and Ann Coulter that their diplomas are worhtless. :D

The A&Scollege that these folks attended at Cornell is part of the Ivy League. The farm school where Queefy got his communications degreee is not

Farm school communications Prof:

OK class…repeat after me..Su…su…su…suuuuuuueeeeyyyyyyy. Her piggy…Su…su..su…suuuuuuueyyyyyyyyy. Herepiggy

Barney said:
communications Prof:

OK class…repeat after me..Su…su…su…suuuuuuueeeeyyyyyyy. Her piggy…Su…su..su…suuuuuuueyyyyyyyyy. Herepiggy

sarainitaly said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/06/keith-olbermann-ann-coult_n_172438.html

He went to cow college.

Barney said:
Well..at least Queefy Uberdouche will learn more there than he did at the cow collge he bought his diploma from..

It is extremely sad that some of you equate attaining a degree from an agricultural or mechanical school with ignorant misconceptions about intelligence of graduates or quality of education. Remember the shame you’ve brought upon yourself the next time you find the word “elitist” escaping your mouth.

BR — about that American “Spectacle” article you just linked us to —

Olbermann tweets, “Nope. [Lincoln] lost only one election and I will prove this tonight. Don’t mess with the Abraham Lincoln Association. . .”

Stay tuned….. :-)

alanreese – Excellent post; if only these people had any shame.

“Those who spew hate like Keith, in what ever form: NYTimes, NPR, LATimes, La Raza, Muslim Brotherhood, Uberleft politicians, anchors, writers, ABC, CBS, NBC especially MSNBC The New Black Panther Party, Reverend Wright, William Ayers and “f##k” em Rahm Emanuel to name just a very miniscule few of that ugly army. The sad fact is that, by taking away the Bible, look what we have allowed our Society to become: no rules, no moral and no ethics.”-Sue

Don’t know about ABC, Wm Ayers, Rahm Emanuel, etc., etc., but Keith has affirmed (in print and on the air) his belief in God on more than one occasion, and also stated (in print) that he prays daily. As was pointed out earlier, we millions of religious liberals stand in stark contrast to your cherished misconceptions. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. We’re here and we’re not going anywhere, get used to it! (PS, the Founders ran the gamut, from atheist to unshakable believer, and they managed to get along well enough to start a country that has endured to this day based on what they wrote. Without your help, unfortunately, but you can change that.)

feasibilitystud said:
gonna have to give the French their due on this one.

Have you studied the French Revolution?

Once the French Revolutionary forces gained control, they near instantly became paranoid & turned against everyone, including themselves. Resulting in the most viscous, long (over ten years) & widespread bloodbath, the world had ever seen.

You see, unlike American Revolutionary forces, there was absolutely no room for any compromise by the French zealots of numerous stripes, in any way whatsoever.

However, here, religious piety, openness & tolerance became the norm very early on. And although there were boundary & other disputes following Independence, the former colonials were willing, and most often times eager to form compromises, so everyone could back to their own productive way of life.

That way of life was capitalism, & it had been established at Plymouth Colony by Captain John Smith, after King James the 1st allowed their initial socialized self govt, that failed to produce enough to pay for their collective debt in just a few short & very hard years. However, with King James granting autonomous self rule, Smith tried capitalism & the rest, as we say, is history.

Admittedly, the greatest of those compromises led to our own Civil War, but that was nearly averted, and if cooler more patient heads would have prevailed, slavery would have most certainly died out within the upcoming generation.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve read & greatly respect the work of most of the pre-& post revolution French philosophers you mentioned, but their best work was built on the strengths of John Locke & his contemporaries, who were also the primary influences on Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Henry & perhaps most importantly, Franklin & a handful of others as well.

Oops. I’ve babbled along for a while. It’s time to put a stop to it now.

Just Tex said:

You see, unlike American Revolutionary forces, there was absolutely no room for any compromise by the French zealots of numerous stripes, in any way whatsoever.

However, here, religious piety, openness & tolerance became the norm very early on. And although there were boundary & other disputes following Independence, the former colonials were willing, and most often times eager to form compromises, so everyone could back to their own productive way of life.

.

Tex, it appears that you and stud agree on this central point – tolerance and compromise were ideals that helped our fledgling country survive and grow. I believe that the loss of this focus, coupled with the shift tto a two-party “us or them” system is where our country has gone wrong. There is no more intelligent debate, just an entertainment news system where ratings (earned largely through inflamatory and sensational stories) hold higher value that truth.

alanreese said:
Tex, it appears that you and stud agree on this central point – tolerance and compromise were ideals that helped our fledgling country survive and grow.

Indeed.

alanreese said:
I believe that the loss of this focus, coupled with the shift tto a two-party “us or them” system is where our country has gone wrong.

I’d say Wilsonian Liberalism, so quickly followed by the ratification of the 17th Amendment, were the turning and beginning of the dividing point.

FDR’s willingness to do anything at all, to gain & maintain the presidency, was the explosive that topped it all off, especially with his judicial threats. And it’s been downhill into this confused unconstitutional mess were in today, ever since.

Eisenhower could have stopped it, but he was too busy to fight for a domestic constitutional agenda. He didn’t like it, but was content to be able to build his bombs (nuclear) & his interstate roads, to haul them all around on.

Reagan had quiet an impact, but Bush one, (much like Bush two), wasted that legacy and both didn’t care that much for shoring up Constitutional domestic policy.

That’s why 2010 & 2012 will be so significant. Things will change considerably with each of those upcoming elections.

alanreese said:
It is extremely sad that some of you equate attaining a degree from an agricultural or mechanical school with ignorant misconceptions about intelligence of graduates or quality of education. Remember the shame you’ve brought upon yourself the next time you find the word “elitist” escaping your mouth

nope, i’m just laughing at the Coulter/Olbermann war about his cow college education. It’s fun to know it bothers him so.

“Remember the shame you’ve brought upon yourself the next time you find the word “elitist” escaping your mouth” –

Are you serious? Good gawd, get a life. I am not mocking the intelligence of grads or the quality of their education. I am mocking the idiot Olbermann, who thinks he is so much better than Beck – a guy who didn’t go to college and kicks his ass in ratings every night. When have you ever heard me throwing around the term elitist? Certainly not around here, to this group. And as a college grad, I am obviously a believer in higher education. Just not from Olby’s clown cow college.

In President Washington’s Farewell Speech upon leaving office he said the following:

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars.”

Within the first generation of our nation’s founding the Supreme Court ruled the following in Runkel v. Winemiller (1799):

“By our form of government the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed on the same equal footing.”

Then in 1811 in People v. Ruggles the court found:

“Whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to dissolution of civil government.”

Then more than 100 years after the founding of our Constitution the Supreme Court cites 87 precedents in Church of the Holy Trinity v. the U.S., concluding the following:

“No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people.” The opinion later concludes, “This is a Christian Nation.”

Jefferson’s idea in the Declaration of Independence, that all men are created and that our individual rights come from our Creator, was contemporary thought of the Founders, largely influenced by the concept of natural law asserted by Blackstone in his commentaries.

The Blackstone Commentaries were the foundation of much of our early American law and it’s been primary in our law schools. Straight from Blackstone’s commentary we read:

“The doctrine thus delivered we call the Revealed or Divine Law, and they are to be found only in Holy Scripture. Upon these two foundations, the Law of Nature and the Law of Revelation, depend all human laws; That is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these.”

If you choose to use Jefferson as the Christian influence upon latter decisions by the supreme court, please keep in mind that Jefferson rejected almost all facets upon which Christianity is based. Jefferson was a Deist, which is why the Texas Board of Education chose to minimize his role in founding our country while rewriting our textbooks.

I fully agree with you that at later times in the history of the US, Christianity has ebbed and flowed as an important influence on executive will,legislation, and judiciary decisions.

sarainitaly said:
Are you serious? Good gawd, get a life.

well, I do have a life, thank you, and it is quite fulfilling; and please, as I have refrained from such comments on my own part, refrain from attacking me personally, as I feel this is counter-productive. If I may be allowed to clarify my point, I find the term “cow college” as you have put it multiple times to be highly offensive. I also find it to be indicative of a common thread in our media today. Those who have chosen to follow a certain path in education are frequently awarded such epithets, as though the people who feed us, clothe us, safeguard our pets & livestock, protect our national parks, provide us the bounty allowing us to donate to third world countries , et. al. are somehow less deserving of praise or less well educated than those who may chose what is commonly conceived as a more lucrative career. (btw, you are probably eating bioengineered foods every day which were developed by those aggie clowns you so despise, and they are living in mansions overlooking you)

sarainitaly said:
nope, i’m just laughing at the Coulter/Olbermann war about his cow college education. It’s fun to know it bothers him so….. And as a college grad, I am obviously a believer in higher education. Just not from Olby’s clown cow college.

” – you may not use the word elitist in this or any sentence, but you fulfill every definition I know of the term with just one sentiment.

“Your thoughts betray you” …just a lark, but who can tell me who I’m quoting?

Tex,

I like the way you think, and most importantly, I like the way you debate. I wish most of the posts on this site followed as such.

So far as the 17th amendment goes, very good point! As much as I believe in power bestowed upon the voting classes, I agree that giving the election of the senate to the popular vote as opposed to the state legislatorial vote has led to our current status of under qualified elected officials. I do wonder, however, if had that amendment not been passed, that we would currently have the same situation in our respective state houses regarding nominated senators that we have in our congress today regarding the confirmation of nominated federal officials. Would we find our local elections dominated by debate over “who will our state Rep. vote for?” I imagine that the current climate might be much the same, with our straight-ticket or single-issue voting masses dominating both political debate and electoral results.

And as for the legacy of Eisenhower and his devotion to bombs and highways, I always lament his much unheralded passing advice…”In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” Something Kennedy, LBJ, and Nixon should have cut off before Reagan allowed it to run amok with our deficit.

As to your optimism about the upcoming elections, I unfortunately can not share it. I anxiously await any encouragement that our nation will rise to the occasion.

” i’m just laughing at the Coulter/Olbermann war about his cow college education.”-sarainitaly

So your posting that article wasn’t intended as informational — just a scab to be picked. We get it, Sara; you’re in it for the lulz.

feasibilitystud said:
” i’m just laughing at the Coulter/Olbermann war about his cow college education.”-sarainitaly

So your posting that article wasn’t intended as informational — just a scab to be picked. We get it, Sara; you’re in it for the lulz.

What you say is, indeed, true, but we ought not overlook Mrs. Italy’s advanced copy and pasting abilities. Mounds of irrelevant material at our very fingertips.

alanreese says:
July 10, 2010 at 1:55 am

feasibilitystud says:
July 10, 2010 at 2:49 am

OK, let me spell it out for both of you. Someone posted comments about Olby attending “cow college”, I think it was Barney. THEN, Torgman posted:
torgman said: Cornell University is a cow college? We better tell Paul Wolfowitz, Alan Keyes and Ann Coulter that their diplomas are worhtless. :D

I pasted the article about Ann Coulter to show Torgman that Coulter was well aware of Olby and his education. Because it’s FUNNY.

” as I have refrained from such comments on my own part, refrain from attacking me personally, as I feel this is counter-productive.”
“It is extremely sad that some of you equate attaining a degree from an agricultural or mechanical school with ignorant misconceptions about intelligence of graduates or quality of education. Remember the shame you’ve brought upon yourself the next time you find the word “elitist” escaping your mouth”

Yea… no personal comments there, or assumptions.

The only person I am laughing at is OLBERMANN per the Coulter feud. (and now a little at you two for taking a joke about Olby so personally)

The Real Royal King says:
July 10, 2010 at 4:00 am (Quote)

Mounds of irrelevant material at our very fingertips. And pray tell what the f*ck you EVER post that is relevant? It seems to me all you ever do is pounce, irrelevantly, on other peoples comments.

Yes, sara, you did conduct a personal attack in one of your wandering rebuttals, or do you not remember requesting that I “get a life?”

And yes again, you were clearly guilty of the assumption I mentioned, or at least encouraging others to do so, when you stated “And as a college grad, I am obviously a believer in higher education. Just not from Olby’s clown cow college.” How am i not to interpret this as a condemnation of ag schools? Do you not clearly state that your belief in the higher education system is limited to those outside what you define as a “clown cow college?”

Your continued refusal to comment directly on your diction leads me to believe that you can not or will not fathom the inherent offensiveness of your statements, and can therefore not even begin to understand your disconnect from the very people who help sustain your life.

Sorry Sara, I was just scanning over your post again and realized you were referring to my own assumptions. My bad, I should really keep my profiling in check. Please accept my most humble apologies. From now on, I will no longer suspect that those who refer to the ag dept. grads of highly reputable schools saying “he went to cow college” to be disconnected thoughtless cable-TV controlled automata, or worse. Just like I will no longer suspect people who use the word n****r repeatedly to be either racist or recording a gangsta rap album.

I was referring to your comments:

“It is extremely sad that some of you equate attaining a degree from an agricultural or mechanical school with ignorant misconceptions about intelligence of graduates or quality of education. Remember the shame you’ve brought upon yourself the next time you find the word “elitist” escaping your mouth”

Yea… no personal comments there, or assumptions.

“How am i not to interpret this as a condemnation of ag schools? Do you not clearly state that your belief in the higher education system is limited to those outside what you define as a “clown cow college?””

Because it is a j o k e, and I am making fun of Olbermann, per the Coulter scuffle. huuuuumor. joking. teasing. mocking idiot olbermann. because it b o t h e r s him. and he deserves it. Lighten up. I am not mocking your education. Personal attack = get a life? You are kind of sensitive, no?

If my mocking Olbermann so bothers you, that you equate it to an attack on all living farmers and people who *help sustain my life* then, yes, I think *get a life* is in order…

I have no problem with you mocking KO, he gives out ample ammunition almost constantly. I still await a defense of your diction. I was only joking is no defense. Btw, I did not go to my states nationally renowned ag school, Texas A&M, I graduated from Univ. of Texas. So I am very accustomed to hearing humorous remarks from both sides. I also am widely considered to have a very enthusiastic sense of humor, just not so enthusiastic for tired, ignorant and shallow misconceptions. If thats your game, I think my great-uncle Fritz has some great Polish jokes to tell you.

alan – just not so enthusiastic for tired, ignorant and shallow misconceptions. – isn’t that the basis of most jokes, really? hahha

dude, you took it way too seriously. it is a joke, at olby’s expense. if you really had a sense of humor, you would find the humor in Coulters attack on Olby and his actual trotting out of his diploma.

I am logging off now. have a nice day.

“alan – just not so enthusiastic for tired, ignorant and shallow misconceptions. – isn’t that the basis of most jokes, really? hahha”

And i absolutely find the whole Coulter attack/Olby defense situation amusing, in that “wow, she’s amazingly ignorant..but wait..WOW he’s an even bigger douche” sort of way. The shear fact that this is what passes for news is funny in that “what has happened to our society when Jon Stweart doesn’t even have to try anymore” manner…i guess I’m just amazed that a handful of posters here so enthusiastically took up Coulter’s argument as legit, and the handful that seem legitimately entertained by it.

Honestly, I find this all more offensive from the standpoint of a comedian than an agrarian. Most of my favorite comedians i find highly intelligent (DavidCross, Zach Galifinakis, Patton Oswalt, George Carlin), but some just want to settle for a Micheal Richards i suppose

alanreese said:
but some just want to settle for a Micheal Richards i suppose

well, i guess that type of comment had to show up sooner or later. yes, because mocking olby is equivalent to calling people the n-word. nice job on the subtle race card insult.

have you NEVER heard of anyone from one college mocking someone or a group of people from another college? doesn’t Coulter have that right?

Why did you never address my question about the cost of tuition – if Olby’s school is not different from Coulter’s Cornell, why did he pay much less for his education, as he claims? Did you dispute her claims about the acceptance rate, and locations of the two schools?

Did you bother to read Coulter’s article on the topic?

I wouldn’t mention it, except that Olbermann savages anyone who didn’t go to an impressive college. As it happens, he didn’t go to an impressive college, either.

If you actually want to pursue a career related to agriculture, there is no better school than the Cornell ag school. I have nothing but admiration for the farmers and aspiring veterinarians at the ag school. They didn’t go there just to have “Cornell” on their resumes.

In addition to the farmers, there are some smart kids who go to the ag school — as there are at all state universities. But most people who majored in “communications” at an ag school don’t act like Marshall Scholars or go around mocking graduates of Regent University Law School.

It may seem cruel to reveal the true college of someone who already wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat worried that he’s a fraud. But I believe that by pointing out that Olbermann actually is a fraud, I am liberating him.

Now you won’t have to quickly change the subject whenever people idly remark that they didn’t know it was possible to major in “communications” at an Ivy League school.

You are forcing me to spend far too much time on this subject…

Each of the fourteen colleges and schools listed below defines its own academic programs; admits its own students; provides a faculty, and advising and support for its students; and confers degrees on its own students, although all degrees are attributed to Cornell University.
http://www.cornell.edu/academics/colleges.cfm

These descriptions are not exactly the same thing are they:

Ivy League education:
College of Arts and Sciences students enjoy an Ivy League education distinguished by unusual breadth and depth of study and freedom to shape their own curriculum.
http://as.cornell.edu/admissions/index.cfm

Access to Ivy league resources:
Considered the best of its kind in the nation, Cornell University’s College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS) offers the resources of a world-class Ivy League institution.
http://www.cals.cornell.edu/cals/prospective/admissions/index.cfm

College Applied Accepted %
Agriculture & Life Sciences 4697 1028 21.89%
Arts & Sciences 15474 2840 18.35%

Ann was off in her acceptance rates, but it does seem much more competitive at the Arts & Science school.

And again, I say, it was FUNNY. But nice way to be a major buzz kill and display a complete lack of *funny*. (and to slip in the ol’ insult r.e Michael Richards.)

Ann’s article: http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=300

“just not so enthusiastic for tired, ignorant and shallow”

Like this:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/10/biden-tells-leno-he-wanted-send-rush-limbaugh-russia-spy-swap

Olbermann Mangles Another Fact, Claims Abe Lincoln Only Lost One Election

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/09/olbermann-mangles-another-fact-claims-abe-lincoln-only-lost-one-election#ixzz0tIeiLOYb

sara, slightly amusing at best, but still perpetuates an unfortunate and ignorant misconception

btw, want to watch something REALLY funny, one of my favorites from Patton

“oh, sky cake. why are you so delicious?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w

@ j tex, ok bud, ill ask again, why are you misquoting me? show me where i said what you keep quoting me as saying. take your time and read the post instead of half-ass reading it. link my entire post please.

Mr. Olbermann could benefit from some basic economics courses. For example, someone should teach him that if you spend trillions of dollars you don’t have on entitlements, you eventually go broke.

“libs are soulless Neanderthals who chose “Man” over God.”

The Republicants are turning their backs on unemployed, starving, homeless Americans. As for those supposedly “Godless” liberals.

From: http://biblebrowser.com/matthew/25-35.htm

” Matthew 25:35 >>
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;”

The hypocrisy of many “God-fearing” citizens gives atheism a good name.

““Keith Olbermann’s Mom Evicts Him from Basement”-MichelleF

His mom is deceased.”

Classy.

According to righties here, he wound up in a $2 million condo. Perfect landing.

“Glenn Beck University? Didn’t know they gave out degrees in paranoia.”

Paranoia? Who told you I’m paranoid!???

It must be tough handing out the diplomas while everyone is constantly looking over their shoulders during the ceremony.

“i really don’t give a rats ass about it, i just think it is hysterical that Olby felt the need to bring his diploma and show it on tv. It is pure comedy.”

But when the nutcase-neocon-extreme insists on seeing Obama’s birth certificate – and still won’t believe it – that’s a deadly serious matter.

“Most liberals are believers. It’s kinda strange to say that Atheists chose Man over God. They don’t believe in invisible beings so it’s not a choice it just is.”

Facts and logic won’t get very far on this board – but your efforts are appreciated.

“Beck was asking a rhetorical question, pointing out that the left will never accuse one of their own of racism. Case in point: Is Keith covering the black panther story? ”

From: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007090005 :

“[C]onservative media outlets have been aggressively promoting the charge by GOP activist J. Christian Adams that President Obama’s Justice Department engaged in racially charged “corruption” when it partially dismissed a case against members of the New Black Panther Party for allegedly engaging in voter intimidation outside of a Philadelphia polling center on Election Day in 2008.

“. . . Adams himself has admitted that he lacks first-hand knowledge to support his accusations. Additionally, Adams’ charge that the DOJ’s action in the New Black Panther case shows unprecedented, racially motivated corruption is undermined by the fact that the Obama DOJ obtained judgment against one of the defendants, and that the Bush DOJ declined to pursue similar allegations against a group of Minutemen — one of whom was carrying a gun — in 2006.

“Even the Republican vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights called the New Black Panthers case “very small potatoes” and said an investigation into the DOJ’s decision is full of “overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges.”

“Cindy, you are typical lib that thinks just because someone went to harvard or some other prestigious college, they are somehow better than those who didn’t.”

She called Cornell “prestigious.” Subjective, but not condescending.

” Going to college doesn’t make you smarter than someone who didn’t. Case in point, Obama; he’s supposedly a genius, yet doesn’t understand basic economics. He supposedly taught law (though you if zoom in on the pix of his chalkboard, he’s actually teaching Saul Ainsky tactics 101), yet he’s too stupid to understand what the AZ immigration law says.” The condescending liberal schtick is getting tired.

And the baseless, unproven, unfounded allegations of the right against Obama are vicious, foolish and destructive of meaningful discourse.

Your efforts to smear him probably backfire. Thoughtful people find it hard to believe he could possibly be as terrible a person as you try so hard to portray.

Bush, on the other hand, provided more-than-ample evidence of his corruptness and megalomania.

It’s “Alinsky,” not “Ainsky.” Then again, I doubt you know anything about the man beyond Beck’s distorted portrayal.

“You should never assume.”

As Al Franken said: “When you ‘assume,’ you make an ass-of-Uma Thurman.”

“Sara, I don’t know about you, but I wish I were as smart as Rox, Dona, and Cindy.”

So do the rest of us.

You could (and do) have worse role models: Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham or that celebrated feminist, Rush Limpblow.

“want to be kissing on Obammas rectum, again dawgs!”

Watch out, notsoswift/Your Royal Sphincterness – there’s a “pretender” to your throne!

“Please, Please my Conservative friends pick up a book and read it.”

Whoa! Careful, lady. People might start getting (their OWN) ideas!

“I bet your lips and feet move when you try to read.”

We’ll let you know when that’s funny, Your Sphincterness. Don’t wait up.

” I’m assuming you two brainiacs are related?”

Yeah – maybe a little TOO closely. Ahem.

“I’m amusing myself very well, thank you. ”

Oh, man! Some lines are just TOO easy! Move along, folks.

“You are the only person who can eat his own weight in scat in one sitting.”

You’ve TRIED?

“i think your confusing republicans with being conservative.”

The terms are becoming interchangeable. The party of Lincoln, Eisenhower and Goldwater now shuns independent, moderate thinkers. Lincoln abhorred the racism that taints too much of his party’s current ideology. Ike warned us about the same military/industrial complex that has all but bought up his party. Goldwater famously said that he didn’t care if a soldier WAS straight as long as he could SHOOT straight. His party now endorses interference in the personal lives of Americans, which would doubtless appall him.

The extreme right element of the Republican Party has inexorably become the MAINSTREAM of the party. Moderation is derided while extremism is fully endorsed and almost mandatory.

“so many of the more recent posts are too interested in s###t.”

ALL of which originated with right-wing posters – not exactly the type of “freedom of speech.” the Founders fought and died for.

Speaking of Jefferson, here’s a link to an extended excerpt from Thom Hartmann’s “Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights.”

( http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2002/01/unequal-protection-jefferson%E2%80%99s-dream )

“Very few people are aware that Thomas Jefferson considered freedom from monopolies to be one of the fundamental human rights. But it was very much a part of his thinking during the time when the Bill of Rights was born. . . . “

sarainitaly said:
“just not so enthusiastic for tired, ignorant and shallow”

Like this:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/10/biden-tells-leno-he-wanted-send-rush-limbaugh-russia-spy-swap

how is this in any way an indictment of my argument? How are you drawing a link between me statements and those of Biden? I don’t follow your logic, please explain.

As to my Richards comment, I was merely establishing the difference as I see it between what I consider intelligent humor and low brow, lowest common denominator, exhausted belief systems being invoked by witless individuals in an attempt at humor. Yes, I equate the outdated premises of Richards now famous heckler taunting with the outdated premises of your “cow college” jokes. I do not at any point intend to infer that you or someone who thinks like you is a racist; I do, however, wish that you would reexamine the foundations of the comments which you found so humorous. I hope you realize how ill-informed, outdated, and shallow those foundations are.

And if you want to hear a legit comedian tackle an obnoxious heckler, look up Zach’s and Patton’s respective responses on youtube. Just search for them, they’re hilarious.

On a lighter note, did no one watch “sky cake?”

alanreese said:
how is this in any way an indictment of my argument? How are you drawing a link between me statements and those of Biden? I don’t follow your logic, please explain.

As to my Richards comment, I was merely establishing the difference as I see it between what I consider intelligent humor and low brow, lowest common denominator, exhausted belief systems being invoked by witless individuals in an attempt at humor.

And if you want to hear a legit comedian tackle an obnoxious heckler, look up Zach’s and Patton’s respective responses on youtube. Just search for them, they’re hilarious.

On a lighter note, did no one watch “sky cake?”

Why do I have to spell out everything to you? Biden’s comments are not an indictment of your argument, they are an example of someone using tired, shallow topics for humor. Gee, a Rush Limbaugh joke – hardee har har. It’s like someone using Palin jokes. har har. So funny, and so clever and original. Send Rush to Russia.

As to my Richards comment, – BS, you went for the racist Richards cut, and you know it. Man up and admit it.

So, the world according to Alan Reeses:

Jokes mocking Olbermann that he went to “clown cow college” are low brow, shameful, witless, and an affront to farmers everywhere that “perpetuate an unfortunate and ignorant misconception”.

Jokes mocking (hundreds of millions of people world wide) that believe in an afterlife, many who seek solace in times of tragedy, and find comfort in the belief of an afterlife for their loved ones, who find comfort in the idea of God, and Heaven, and those who believe that murdering unborn children is wrong, are legitimate and REALLY funny.

Really Alan? Really? Gee, liberal jokes mocking religion….nothing like hitting the lowest common denominator, exhausted belief systems, there, huh, Alan?

This leads me to believe that you will not fathom the inherent offensiveness of your statements, and can therefore not even begin to understand your disconnect from the very people who help sustain the lives of people all around the world.

“As to my Richards comment, – BS, you went for the racist Richards cut, and you know it. Man up and admit it.”

I think you still fail to comprehend the statement. I make no reference to you being a racist, and I don’t intend to. I see no basis for that, as of this point in our discussion. There only exists the comparison which i clearly stated
- humor based upon outdated, ignorant belief systems (the inferiority of African Americans) as compared to your humor based on outdated, ignorant belief systems (the inferiority of agrarians).

To use your own vulgate, “man up and admit it”

and c’mon…all topics are open for comedy, I just asserted that the basis for your “humorous” commentary is ignorant. I will gladly continue to argue that Patton mocking religious xenophobia (something very real, current, and the actual basis of his routine, not religion in itself as you claim) is far more stimulating than you mocking an under-represented, repressed, declining, and poorly supported large segment of the american population.

Olbermann – “an under-represented, repressed, declining, and poorly supported large segment of the american population.”

Well, you got that right!

And BS again on why you brought up Richards. Your intent was to invoke his racist rant and implied that those like me prefer his type of humor. Plain and simple. Nice attempt at a walk back though.

You think it’s funny to mock religion. I think it’s funny to mock Olbermann. You just want to censor/attack what I find funny, because you take it personally.

“all topics are open for comedy, I just asserted that the basis for your “humorous” commentary is ignorant….(the inferiority of agrarians)…far more stimulating…”

LOL. Get real.

And you never answered/addressed my questions in the post:

sarainitaly says:
July 10, 2010 at 10:58 am (Quote)

have you NEVER heard of anyone from one college mocking someone or a group of people from another college? doesn’t Coulter have that right?

Why did you never address my question about the cost of tuition – if Olby’s school is not different from Coulter’s Cornell, why did he pay much less for his education, as he claims?

Did you bother to read Coulter’s article on the topic?

Obermann is a cartoon. He is a parody of a journalist and he could definitely benefit from hearing from someone other than the left wing nuts that surround him. Im surprised that MSNBC can still afford to pay this clown considering that there are only four people watching his show.

KO is foolish and buying an Insider extreme membership proves it.