Michael Reagan wrote a nice piece, but on a day when we should all be recognizing the actual miracle that is a country electing a black man as its leader less than a lifetime after he would have been forced to live separately, perhaps it’s not a good choice for top story.

The fact that it ISN’T a miracle is what we should be recognizing. That is Dr. King’s legacy. Sorry, but it ain’t Barack Obama day.

“But the past two years have made one thing clear: Ronald Reagan was a far better friend to black Americans than Barack Obama has been. Just compare the Reagan and Obama records. Under Obama, black unemployment rose from 12.6 percent in January 2009 to 16.0 percent today. This means that black unemployment has increased by more than one-fourth since Obama took office.

And the Reagan record? African-American columnist Joseph Perkins has studied the effects of Reaganomics on black America. He found that, after the Reagan tax cuts gained traction, African-American unemployment fell from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. Black-owned businesses saw income rise from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987-an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent. The black middle class expanded by one-third during the Reagan years, from 3.6 million to 4.8 million.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/ronald-reagan/2011/01/17/ronald-reagan-more-friend-blacks-obama#ixzz1BJYKeleP”

Motivation decent. Premise arguable. Timing abysmal.

Agreed. Jon.

And he say’s his brother Ron is an embarrassment.

Cecelia said:
“But the past two years have made one thing clear: Ronald Reagan was a far better friend to black Americans than Barack Obama has been. Just compare the Reagan and Obama records. Under Obama, black unemployment rose from 12.6 percent in January 2009 to 16.0 percent today. This means that black unemployment has increased by more than one-fourth since Obama took office.

And the Reagan record? African-American columnist Joseph Perkins has studied the effects of Reaganomics on black America. He found that, after the Reagan tax cuts gained traction, African-American unemployment fell from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. Black-owned businesses saw income rise from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987-an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent. The black middle class expanded by one-third during the Reagan years, from 3.6 million to 4.8 million.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/ronald-reagan/2011/01/17/ronald-reagan-more-friend-blacks-obama#ixzz1BJYKeleP”

Motivation decent. Premise arguable. Timing abysmal.

Agreed. Jon.

Again! Reagan raised taxes.

skyfet said:
And he say’s his brother Ron is an embarrassment.

If he wrote that piece FOR MLK Day, good point…

skyfet said:
Again! Reagan raised taxes.

Notice that unemployment is measured over a six year period for Reagan. Obvious apples to oranges in an attempt to fabricate evidence for an assertion that is on it’s face ridiculous.

“The fact that it ISN’T a miracle is what we should be recognizing. That is Dr. King’s legacy. Sorry, but it ain’t Barack Obama day.”

—That and the fact that a bunch of people that got conned into electing the WRONG black man. They will not make the same mistake again, God help us if they do.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

greg454 said:
—That and the fact that a bunch of people that got conned into electing the WRONG black man. They will not make the same mistake again, God help us if they do.

Looks like things are turning up Obama… The new congress will help even further as it becomes clear that our executive is one of the few adults in the room. Compare Obama to Reagan for fun!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

Sooooo, it’s not okay to make that argument because it’s MLK day? Jon, if you wouldn’t mind, please let me know what other things it’s not okay to do on MLK day. It’s better to be safe than sorry, ya know. I’d hate to have the PC police knocking on my door.

The Modern Liberals/Progressives have kept the inner cities enslaved. They have utterly controlled these areas for 50+ and they have had the 50+ years to adapt – but they have not. Anyone who says aything is branded a racist.

Liberals do it by making sure succes cannot happen adn that behaviors that lead to success are suppressed. When the pain beocmes unbearable, the liberals jump into action and come up with a program that only acts as a salve on the pain that their ideas created and foster in the first place!

The community activists keep everyone off balance by making sure anger is built up and resentments are magnified.

Normal elemets of our system are suppressed because no one wants to deal with the liberals. Only the big companies will put up shop and, as we can see, the left hates it when someone like a Wal-Mart comes in.

Regean and Jack Kemp were on the right rack with Enterprise Zones, but I don’t think they realized that liberals hate ides that produce success. If we were to do it today, we would need someone who understands liberals and who would steamroll over their goofy hated for success. The ideas would have to be taken directly to the people and to bypass the community activist apparatus and the Democratic party control over everything.

What the left has done to the inner cities is what they have been trying to do to the rest of the country.

A perfect case study on the destructive nature of Liberalism: Detroit. Look at these pictures!
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/01/postcards-from-4.html

Yeah that’s why he was initially against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Yeah that’s why he was initially against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

So let’s see, Reagan felt that the act(s) violated States rights, but the liberals who opposed it (Al Gore Sn, Byrd, etc.) WERE racists.

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
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“Yeah that’s why he was initially against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”

Regan very boldly made a point of announcing his candidacy for POTUS in Philadelphia Mississippi,.A town known for only one thing: The murder of the 3 civil rights workers in 1964. The 3 were in that infamous town to help promote voting rights for black people in the south. So much care Reagan took in his decision to pick a place for his announcement to show his sensitivity and friendship for black Americans.

Psittacidae said:
The Modern Liberals/Progressives have kept the inner cities enslaved. They have utterly controlled these areas for 50+ and they have had the 50+ years to adapt – but they have not. Anyone who says aything is branded a racist.

Liberals do it by making sure succes cannot happen adn that behaviors that lead to success are suppressed. When the pain beocmes unbearable, the liberals jump into action and come up with a program that only acts as a salve on the pain that their ideas created and foster in the first place!

The community activists keep everyone off balance by making sure anger is built up and resentments are magnified.

Normal elemets of our system are suppressed because no one wants to deal with the liberals. Only the big companies will put up shop and, as we can see, the left hates it when someone like a Wal-Mart comes in.

Regean and Jack Kemp were on the right rack with Enterprise Zones, but I don’t think they realized that liberals hate ides that produce success. If we were to do it today, we would need someone who understands liberals and who would steamroll over their goofy hated for success. The ideas would have to be taken directly to the people and to bypass the community activist apparatus and the Democratic party control over everything.

What the left has done to the inner cities is what they have been trying to do to the rest of the country.

Black folks in cities like Detroit and Chicago arrived in two major waves of migration linked to the growth of industrialization associated with the Great Wars. Southern blacks were a late entry into the complicated economic and political competition between diverse ethnic groups. Most ethnic enclaves enjoyed a level of connectivity to the political machine and enough labor force attachment that they enjoyed an advantage as industrialization began to quickly decline in an increasingly globalized economic environment where the ascendant America look outward for cheap labor. With the urban economy in transition, African Americans also suffered from a lack of political clout that resulted not only in overcrowding as a consequence of “readlining” but minimal access to communal services. Insufficient policing, underfunded schools, and undermanned fire protection services all gave rise to feelings of frustration. The war on drugs only increased the problems as politically and economically disenfranchised communities were flooded with a new breed of cheap cocaine and rates of violence and incarceration began to skyrocket.

African Americans in our cities are not the victims of liberal slavery as you might imagine for personal convenience… but they are caught in a complicated set of historical factors that have limited their access to essential means and social supports while exposing them to the effects of Americas long internal war for multiple generations.

Micheal Reagan is a MORON!!!! Ronald Reagan was against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Ronald Reagan was against the Voters Rights Act of 1965. Both of these brought African Americans in to the main street of American life. Ronald Reagan’s first speech as he ran for President, chose to make it at PHILADELPHIA, MISSISSIPPI. The same place where Three Civil Rights workers were Murdered by the KKK, while trying to register Blacks to vote. Ronald Reagan, was a ” RACIST” who mastered the “SOUTHERN STRATEGY” of Richard Nixon to get to the Presidency. Micheal Reagan has not one iota of DNA than can be traced to Ronald Reagan, as he was adopted, so I will just believe that Ron Reagan knew his father. Micheal Reagan has used the Reagan Name to make a career in the Right Wing Media, again Micheal Reagan is a Moron!!!! Micheal’s and the Right Wing Medias attempt to change History will not fly as long as anyone wishes to look art the FACTS!!!!

Ok Jon…………………. on days that aren’t Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. Are you talking about the Republican Martin Luther King Jon?
What Day Jon would be OK with you? We don’t want your sensabilities inconvenienced. Up until the 1930′s, the majority of blacks were Republican, King was a Republican. I don’t think he would be as offended as you obviously are. He would probably shake his head in shame that you consider it offensive.

Greg said:
Looks like things are turning up Obama… The new congress will help even further as it becomes clear that our executive is one of the few adults in the room. Compare Obama to Reagan for fun!

Adult? Hardly. But regarding the new Congress, it may very well do enough good in the next two years that Mr Obama will receive at least partial credit. For instance, to the extent that the Congress cuts the deficit, Mr Obama WILL take credit.

Greg said:
Notice that unemployment is measured over a six year period for Reagan. Obvious apples to oranges in an attempt to fabricate evidence for an assertion that is on it’s face ridiculous.

Ok well lets compare apples to apples.
Black unemployment rate in 1981: 19 %
Black unemplyment rate in 1989: 11%

Facts CANT be fabricated son.

http://books.google.com/books?id=TfPJWA-CgsMC&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=black+unemployment+rate+1981&source=bl&ots=rRgvk1VRDL&sig=skx1YaYrCYKGbJHf7YE8MwFCLPI&hl=en&ei=9JY0TY-cFsmr8AaUk-jnAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=black%20unemployment%20rate%201981&f=false

Clifford E.Elisary said:
Micheal Reagan is a MORON!!!! Ronald Reagan was against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Ronald Reagan was against the Voters Rights Act of 1965. Both of these brought African Americans in to the main street of American life. Ronald Reagan’s first speech as he ran for President, chose to make it at PHILADELPHIA, MISSISSIPPI. The same place where Three Civil Rights workers were Murdered by the KKK, while trying to register Blacks to vote. Ronald Reagan, was a ” RACIST” who mastered the “SOUTHERN STRATEGY” of Richard Nixon to get to the Presidency. Micheal Reagan has not one iota of DNA than can be traced to Ronald Reagan, as he was adopted, so I will just believe that Ron Reagan knew his father. Micheal Reagan has used the Reagan Name to make a career in the Right Wing Media, again Micheal Reagan is a Moron!!!! Micheal’s and the Right Wing Medias attempt to change History will not fly as long as anyone wishes to look art the FACTS!!!!

Better take a good long look at yourself in the moron mirror! Good Grief man ,it is the democrates or I should say the far left progressives that is trying to change history.

Michael Reagan is not one of my favorites, but he does his best to live up to his father’s standards. And neither one is a racist.

You should understand, though, that false accusations of racism no longer have the effect that they did years ago. In fact the accusers typically accomplish nothing except to make themselves look ridiculous.

President Ronald Reagan is up in Heaven rapp’n with MLK at this very moment and they are both very disapointed in BO.  Poor half white, non-ghetto, suit wearing, clear sounding, “first black president”.

How about we rename the holiday: “The Republican Martin Luther King Day” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkUJEDYBnBQ What more Appropriate day to Honor this Republican. Would that make today an ok time to say Reagan was also a friend to black people, Jon?

Clifford E.Elisary said:
Micheal Reagan has not one iota of DNA than can be traced to Ronald Reagan, as he was adopted, so I will just believe that Ron Reagan knew his father. Micheal Reagan has used the Reagan Name to make a career in the Right Wing Media, again Micheal Reagan is a Moron!!!!

Yeah! Adopted kids suck! They don’t know anything about anyone!

Dumb. Really really dumb.

Greg said:
Looks like things are turning up Obama… The new congress will help even further as it becomes clear that our executive is one of the few adults in the room. Compare Obama to Reagan for fun! http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

Turning up?
46% Approve
53% Disapprove

That’s like saying things are looking up for the Seahawks because they scored 21 points in the 4th Quarter, but still ended up losing the game.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

Scott_in_MI said:
Ok well lets compare apples to apples.
Black unemployment rate in 1981: 19 %
Black unemplyment rate in 1989: 11%

Facts CANT be fabricated son.

http://books.google.com/books?id=TfPJWA-CgsMC&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=black+unemployment+rate+1981&source=bl&ots=rRgvk1VRDL&sig=skx1YaYrCYKGbJHf7YE8MwFCLPI&hl=en&ei=9JY0TY-cFsmr8AaUk-jnAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=black%20unemployment%20rate%201981&f=false

First, facts can be fabricated… Happens all the time.
Second, it makes no sense to compare change in employment numbers over 8 years to change in employment over two years if the goal is to evaluate the effects of policy leadership by an executive. Looking at employment shift over Reagan’s first two years might tell us something (though certainly not everything). By pretending that unequal things are the same is a silly exercise and arguably an attempt to use facts to mislead.

J Baustian said:
You should understand, though, that false accusations of racism no longer have the effect that they did years ago. In fact the accusers typically accomplish nothing except to make themselves look ridiculous.

Agreed, but libs usually throw this accusation around anytime they’re crushed in a debate.

Greg said:
First, facts can be fabricated… Happens all the time.Second, it makes no sense to compare change in employment numbers over 8 years to change in employment over two years if the goal is to evaluate the effects of policy leadership by an executive. Looking at employment shift over Reagan’s first two years might tell us something (though certainly not everything). By pretending that unequal things are the same is a silly exercise and arguably an attempt to use facts to mislead.

The fact is that BHO has DONE NOTHING to improve the lot of black America (except making them more dependant on government, but this is what he wants.)

Scott_in_MI said:
Turning up?
46% Approve
53% Disapprove

That’s like saying things are looking up for the Seahawks because they scored 21 points in the 4th Quarter, but still ended up losing the game.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

A single poll is a bad data point. The most accurate view comes from data aggregation which mitigates the effect of outliers…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/06/jobapproval-obama_n_726319.html

Enjoy!

Scott_in_MI said:
The fact is that BHO has DONE NOTHING to improve the lot of black America (except making them more dependant on government, but this is what he wants.)

Is it really possible to already quantify exactly what BHO has done or not done for black America during his presidency?

Scott_in_MI said:
The fact is that BHO has DONE NOTHING to improve the lot of black America (except making them more dependant on government, but this is what he wants.)

Odd… You make the same point that a cynical student of mine made just recently… She is frustrated that Obama has not spent more time on the South Side focusing on the issues black youth… Another student responded that the best way for Obama to help African Americans is to help all Americans and that as president he can’t focus only Chicago because his responsibilities are bigger now.

I suppose you want him organizing gang summits as opposed to cutting taxes or securing global nuclear material?

Greg said:
A single poll is a bad data point. The most accurate view comes from data aggregation which mitigates the effect of outliers…

A better source:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Greg said:
Odd… You make the same point that a cynical student of mine made just recently… She is frustrated that Obama has not spent more time on the South Side focusing on the issues black youth… Another student responded that the best way for Obama to help African Americans is to help all Americans and that as president he can’t focus only Chicago because his responsibilities are bigger now. I suppose you want him organizing gang summits as opposed to cutting taxes or securing global nuclear material?

I think working harder to improve the economy, instead of installing pre-determined projects (Obamacare, etc.) would do wonders for the Black community, as well as everyone else.

ImNotBlue said:
A better source:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Sure…;)… Similar outcome from each source. Moving upward after a long steady stretch.

Yep, all my black friends have a pic of Ronnie right there up on the wall next to Jesus.

Just last week I heard the fine folks over at the First Freewill AME singing “What a Friend We Have In Reagan”.

ImNotBlue said:
I think working harder to improve the economy, instead of installing pre-determined projects (Obamacare, etc.) would do wonders for the Black community, as well as everyone else.

Not agreeing with the efforts to improve the economy does not mean that serious efforts are not being made.

ImNotBlue said:
I think working harder to improve the economy, instead of installing pre-determined projects (Obamacare, etc.) would do wonders for the Black community, as well as everyone else.

Perhaps… I think his position was that medical costs are on the rise and unsupported the poor bear a disproportionate burden. As African Americans are themselves disproportianatly poor (though not the majority of the poor) and suffer in sum from poor health outcomes, healthcare reform would not only boost demand by protecting income with the security of pooled risk but also increase preventative care and cut the percentage if health spending dedicated to catastrophic illness…

paulmdoro said:
Not agreeing with the efforts to improve the economy does not mean that serious efforts are not being made.

True, but I don’t think there have been any serious efforts to improve the economy… at least, not in the short term. Arguably, one could say that Obamacare will help the economy in the long run (although, that’s highly debatable). But in the short term, what major actions have been taken? The tax deal Obama struck with the Republicans was his first real step towards acknowledging the problem.

As I’ve said, Obama came into office with a list of things he wanted to do. The reality on the ground, or the situations that needed to be dealt with right now, weren’t part of that list.

Greg said:
Sure…;)… Similar outcome from each source. Moving upward after a long steady stretch.

Yes, he is moving back upwards. But I’m not sure at this time, being that it’s only been for a few days, you can really call it a trend.

Jon?
Sell those books!!!
You can’t buy publicity like this.
The media falls for it every time.
They play you guys like a Stradivarius.
Amazing.

Not to sound crass in light of the Tucson tragedy, but any president’s ratings would have gone up after giving a speech to the nation following an incident like that. People want to feel more unified at times like that. Way too early to tell if the uptick is for real.

ImNotBlue said:
Yes, he is moving back upwards. But I’m not sure at this time, being that it’s only been for a few days, you can really call it a trend.

Fair.

@Scott_in_MI

rassmussenreport poll…that says it all I bet it most whites don’t depend on Gov handouts also..yeah right

Greg said:
A single poll is a bad data point. The most accurate view comes from data aggregation which mitigates the effect of outliers… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/06/jobapproval-obama_n_726319.html Enjoy!

Obama has been pretty consistenly disliked for quite awhile now – especially by VOTERS.

I would imagine the poeple who don’t pay income taxes (the bottom half) approve of him quite a bit more than the poeple who pay for everything.

paulmdoro said:
Not to sound crass in light of the Tucson tragedy, but any president’s ratings would have gone up after giving a speech to the nation following an incident like that. People want to feel more unified at times like that. Way too early to tell if the uptick is for real.

But it’s the first speech where Obama was Presidential. Normally, his significan speeches are loaded with left wing attacks.

ImNotBlue said:
True, but I don’t think there have been any serious efforts to improve the economy… at least, not in the short term. Arguably, one could say that Obamacare will help the economy in the long run (although, that’s highly debatable). But in the short term, what major actions have been taken? The tax deal Obama struck with the Republicans was his first real step towards acknowledging the problem. As I’ve said, Obama came into office with a list of things he wanted to do. The reality on the ground, or the situations that needed to be dealt with right now, weren’t part of that list.

Yes.

See, the problem is people expected Obama to come in and work to make things better. This is NOT how deep-down Modern Liberals/Progressives work.

They work to force things to be “equal”, not better. They hate America and Western Civilization and they want to ‘fix” it. When someone says they want to “fundamentaly change the country” as Obama did, is that something someone who loves the country would say? Of course not.

Everything they have been working on has been designed to tear down most things that make the country great and to elevate (support, bailouts, etc) things that don’t work.

Obama and the liberals have been content with the massive unemployment in the inner cities (which they have utterly controlled) for 50+ years. They are just doing the same things on a bigger scale to ruin the rest of the country.

But see, for normal people, they are ruining things. To the Modern Liberal/Progressive, their efforts to force everything to be “equal” are just the right things to get us to their goofy Utopia. To them, all of the pain they create is an ACCEPTABLE side effect!

The little ballarina just wants the left to love him again.
Poor Dad, must be quite embarrassed

Scott_in_MI said:
“The fact is that BHO has DONE NOTHING to improve the lot of black America (except making them more dependant on government, but this is what he wants.)”

Check again oh white one, you got your welfare races confused. White are the most Gov dependent race in America. The number grows daily. And that’s saying lot since you white control some much of the wealth in this country. Yet some 55% handouts of welfare goes to white America.

READ and WEEP
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n10_v50/ai_17361016/

trica said:
Scott_in_MI said:“The fact is that BHO has DONE NOTHING to improve the lot of black America (except making them more dependant on government, but this is what he wants.)” Check again oh white one, you got your welfare races confused. White are the most Gov dependent race in America. The number grows daily. And that’s saying lot since you white control some much of the wealth in this country. Yet some 55% handouts of welfare goes to white America. READ and WEEPhttp://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n10_v50/ai_17361016/

You answered a different question. Couldn’t wait to get that out, huh?

Regardless, whites, blacks, and hispanics, are all more dependent on government. It’s not good for anyone over the term term.

Greg said:
African Americans in our cities are not the victims of liberal slavery as you might imagine for personal convenience… but they are caught in a complicated set of historical factors that have limited their access to essential means and social supports while exposing them to the effects of Americas long internal war for multiple generations.

Go away. The Democrats/Modern Liberals/Progressives have UTTERLY controlled the inner cities for 50 years. They have had 50 years to adapt and they have not.

Either you blame the people in those areas (not me) or you blame the liberal system. It’s the system. About all we can say about the results of all that concentrated liberalism is that there is a lot of hopelessness, despair and death.

And when Obama talks about “hope”, what he means is that we are to hope that things don’t get too bad.

What needs to happen is for more people to start to question liberalism. I think it’s happening.

@Alz

You are so correct I was just waiting to let you know whites are the race sucking up MOST Gov handouts. I know you don’t like it,. but that’s your problem. btw I was not answering any question, just stating facts. Since you white people choose believe that only other races get welfare. But then you people also choose to believe POTUS Obama was born anywhere but the USA..

trica said:
@Alz You are so correct I was just waiting to let you know whites are the race sucking up MOST Gov handouts. I know you don’t like it,. but that’s your problem. btw I was not answering any question, just stating facts. Since you white people choose believe that only other races get welfare. But then you people also choose to believe POTUS Obama was born anywhere but the USA..

It’s not a while or black issue, but a liberal issue. Liberals USE welfare as a way to gain power.

It doens’t look like you’ll get it now, but maybe in the future.

trica said:
@Alz You are so correct I was just waiting to let you know whites are the race sucking up MOST Gov handouts. I know you don’t like it,. but that’s your problem. btw I was not answering any question, just stating facts. Since you white people choose believe that only other races get welfare. But then you people also choose to believe POTUS Obama was born anywhere but the USA..

This is true only because blacks make up ~12% of the total population. If you looked at the percentage of blacks on welfare as compared to the percentage of whites on welfare, you would see the truth of the matter. That said, the US allows for too much welfare–there are multiple generations of families who have been on welfare, and that’s just wrong.

Alz said:
Go away.

Who elected you captain of the internet?

Alz said:
Democrats/Modern Liberals/Progressives have UTTERLY controlled the inner cities for 50 years.

And cities are located within states with legislatures and a nation operating within a dynamic global context, but how could a parrot understand that?

Alz said:
Either you blame the people in those areas (not me) or you blame the liberal system. It’s the system.

Really? Those are the options? Does your stupidity hurt? A low thrumming ache perhaps?

Alz said:
And when Obama talks about “hope”, what he means is that we are to hope that things don’t get too bad.

Or he hopes to pass education reform so that the digital public sphere not be infected by bumper sticker talking points.

Alz said:
What needs to happen is for more people to start to question liberalism. I think it’s happening.

Yes, the end of history and triumph for your tiny clan… you are a born prophet.

WHarropson said:
Up until the 1930′s, the majority of blacks were Republica

Yes, and then the neocons, who plans and policies Reagan followed to a T, used irrational fear of African-Americans to drum up support of the GOP from working class whites. There’s a reason the GOP lost the Black vote, that’s because it was more important to pander to fearful whites to get elected. But thanks for the revisionist history MINUS key elements of facts all the same.

@Alz and you know thats you righties claim to fame, when facts are in your faces, to you it’s the presenters of the facts that don’t get. To bad for you, but so be it. I won’t get your version the future. Because I have the FACTS.

@X-3 I do my home work and I do facts, blacks in USA make up 15% of pop. and yes we do get 24% of Gov handouts, but blacks have always been the poor historically, The lowest paid workers. History lesson for you, when FDR set up welfare he put in place certain mechanisms so that ONLY single white mothers would get the aid. Same with Social Security only old whites would get it. Now you look those FACTS up.

X-3 said:
hat said, the US allows for too much welfare

Especially in RED STATES that historically take more from the federal coffers than their highly impoverished states actually contribute. Just ask Sarah Palin and Rick Perry about WELFARE. Their states would be positively third world without it.

Alz said:
It’s not a while or black issue, but a liberal issue. Liberals USE welfare as a way to gain power.

And GOP ran states, that actually take more from the federal government in taxes than they are willing or capable of paying into the federal government, use welfare to keep their schools out of 19th century levels and their highly impoverished states out of the third world economically.

Sorry but facts aren’t on your side. Red States are forever receiving aid and funding from wealthier blue states to compensate for their lack of wealth. And even with all that FREE MONEY they still tend to dwell at the bottom for all important quality of life indicators. Just thanks what these high poverty, high illiteracy, and lowly uninsured states would be like if they didn’t sponge off of the rest of the country. And let’s not even think about how underfunded our military would be if they had to rely on Red State funds that are hardly forthcoming.

But if it makes you feel better to blame those dreaded LIBERALS for RED STATE failures, then you can go ahead. Reality does have a liberal bias and that’s why it’s important for you to avoid reality at all costs.

Michael Reagan, what a dumb statement! When old Ronnie was talking about his ‘trickle down’ economy, and blacks were already the ones on the bottom, we knew we were done for. Nothing for the working poor blacks, or poor whites for that matter.

But what President ‘Trickle down’ Reagan did was to give more tax dollars to ‘Red States’ then what they paid into. Now that socialism…living off the country.

Ronald Reagan was more of a friend to Blacks than Obama, according only to white conservatives.

Stellar said:
Michael Reagan, what a dumb statement! When old Ronnie was talking about his ‘trickle down’ economy, and blacks were already the ones on the bottom, we knew we were done for. Nothing for the working poor blacks, or poor whites for that matter. But what President ‘Trickle down’ Reagan did was to give more tax dollars to ‘Red States’ then what they paid into. Now that socialism…living off the country.

As I showed in a previous post, Reagan “trickle down” economics cuts black unemployment rate from 19% to 10%.

Think for yourself dude and stop towing the liberal line.

Raygun said:
Ronald Reagan was more of a friend to Blacks than Obama, according only to white conservatives.

Read my above post.

A Kim Bo said:
And GOP ran states, that actually take more from the federal government in taxes than they are willing or capable of paying into the federal government, use welfare to keep their schools out of 19th century levels and their highly impoverished states out of the third world economically. Sorry but facts aren’t on your side. Red States are forever receiving aid and funding from wealthier blue states to compensate for their lack of wealth. And even with all that FREE MONEY they still tend to dwell at the bottom for all important quality of life indicators. Just thanks what these high poverty, high illiteracy, and lowly uninsured states would be like if they didn’t sponge off of the rest of the country. And let’s not even think about how underfunded our military would be if they had to rely on Red State funds that are hardly forthcoming. But if it makes you feel better to blame those dreaded LIBERALS for RED STATE failures, then you can go ahead. Reality does have a liberal bias and that’s why it’s important for you to avoid reality at all costs.

Well thanks to Obama, there are more Red States because we crushed your lib policies in Nov.

trica said:
but blacks have always been the poor historically

NOT true. At one time blacks and women were paid lower wages than white men. All that changed when LBJ signed the equal rights administration, then there came quoata hiring (a formula for mediocrity if ever there was one). Yet somehow, blacks are still paid less. Could it be because they do not go to college (look up the stats on high school and college drop out rates!)? Could it be that they have been played into believing they are victims of whitey? The liberals are using the victim mentality to keep ‘em on the plantation–ask Charles Payne, ask Thomas Sowell, ask William Saffire, ask Bill Cosby.

X-3, I believe you are one of those whites that would be hungry and homeless if not for the Gov handouts you get. And you are lying, ignorant or both. I don’t know about the blacks you speak of here as to being victims of whitey, the blacks I know are noones victims. All in your head. Hey I just love Bill Cosby and I don’t have to ask him anything, you see Cos and I think alike.

trica said:
X-3, I believe you are one of those whites that would be hungry and homeless if not for the Gov handouts you get. And you are lying, ignorant or both. I don’t know about the blacks you speak of here as to being victims of whitey, the blacks I know are noones victims. All in your head. Hey I just love Bill Cosby and I don’t have to ask him anything, you see Cos and I think alike.

How do you know I’m white?

Reagan committed TREASON by selling arms to the Iranians, an avowed enemy of ours, in direct violation of a Congressional and United Nations ban on such sales. He BROKE THE LAW! And this was just 7 years after the Iranians held 100 Americans hostage for 18 months. This would be like George Bush selling weapons to Al Quaida 7 years after 9/11. NUTS! George Bush Sr. had to PARDON the Reagan officals involved in this to prevent them from being convicted and sent to jail. What could be worse than a President selling weapons to our enemies? According to the NEOCONS, a BJ is alot worse!

AND HE SAID IT 52 TIMES!. Reagan committed perjury during his UNDER OATH court deposition during the investigation in the Iran/Contra crime. 52 times he replied to questions with “I don’t know” or “I don’t recall”, in an arrogant and defiant refusal to answer properly to avoid prosecution. He had no problem remembering what to say on TV, but once in court he suddenly couldn’t recall anything. He had a lot to LIE about.

This Conservative fantasy that Reagan was a great President is a joke! It’s already agreed he was “out of it” during his second term with Altzheimers. His tax cut policies of Supply Side “trickle down” economics have been disavowed for 20 years now by David Stockman, the Budget Director Reagan assigned to write them, stating they never worked and ruined the economy. George Bush Sr even called it “voodoo economics.” And the Savings And Loans Bank BILLION DOLLAR TAXPAYER BAILOUT was a direct result of his Administrations “hands off” approach to oversight and regulation of that industry. And history repeated itself with the Wall Street collapse in 2008 when George Bush did the exact same thing. And the deficit TRIPLED during his 8 years while all the time blasting wasteful spending.

The only thing Reagan excelled at, since he was an actor, was giving high hopes, inspiring, patriotic speeches just like in the movies. He was no intellectual giant either, admitting to an interviewer in the 1950′s that he got mostly “C’s” in school. And this myth that he brought down the Soviet Union because of increased Defense Spending is rediculous. Hey we out spent the Viet Cong too and they didn’t collapse. We’re outspending Al Quaida and The Taliban and after 10 years they haven’t collapsed either. Reagan was NO WHERE NEAR a great President.