“…when the Russians come down through Alaska after our government has collapsed who will be there to protect it?!”

Snowmobile Todd? He can see Russia from his houses.

The gall of Beck ever citing George Orwell all the time. Beck himself is one of the more nefarious characters from 1984.

Oh noes! The goverments is coming to get me! They is coming for my guns! They want to taking away my fishing rod! They want to take away my pie! And my salt shaker!

Hey Glen, how about you have a drink of STFU. Still legal in all 50 states.

Beck, Coulter and Limbaugh: Avatars of Julius Streicher

(…) The spirit of these three Americans is the same spirit that filled Streicher. It is a spirit of hateful bigotry, preparing the way for these vulgar sentiments to become deadly atrocities. The overwhelming majority of Americans, like the overwhelming majority of Germans, are far better than this. We need to respond, not by stooping to the same level, but by reminding ourselves that the better angels of our nature call us to a higher standard. A great nation is at stake.

http://www.truthout.org/beck-coulter-and-limbaugh-avatars-julius-streicher57551

homie says:
March 11, 2010 at 1:20 pm

Snowmobile Todd? He can see Russia from his houses.

Ooh… SNL references! I like Celebrity Jeopardy myself… but you they’re both equally fictional, so funny stuff.

homie says:
March 11, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Using Orwell as a reference depends on your political point of view. If you’re a Liberal, you saw everything that Bush was doing as an attempt to invade people’s private lives, thus the 1984 reference. However, under Obama… the same things (owning car companies, trying to get into the banks, wanting to spy on private citizen’s cell phones, etc.) aren’t worthy of mentioning, remembering, or similar application. And I’m sure visa versa.

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I love the “soda tax” commercials… although, the ones against the tax are far better. The pro-tax presents the issue as, “people are getting fatter… let the government help keep people slim, by charging them more to get fat.” This a ludicrous presentation of the argument, and IMO, it falls flat. The anti-tax commercial shows a shop owner talking about how many of his customers are poor and on a strict budget, and how an extra tax could really hurt them and their family.

Apparently “big brother” (check it out, homie), only wants you eating and drinking things it deems appropriate.

Glen(n) put me to sleep on Tuesday, and I didn’t wake up in time for last night’s show. It looks like he was really smoking. Sorry I missed it.

“Apparently “big brother” (check it out, homie), only wants you eating and drinking things it deems appropriate.”

So you are for repealing all cigarette taxes then I take it, “I’m Not Blue?”

How do you then propose we make up that budget shortfall?

The problem with Republicans is they are against everything. What they fail to do is figure out how to pay for anything.

All rhetoric, no practical solutions to real problems.

Glynnis: “communist indoctrination…also so ridiculous it made me wonder whether Massa had left Beck feeling desperate”

Dear Glynnis,

Please educate yourself before you make “ridiculous” statements. The excerpt below is from the biography on Woody Guthrie’s web site. Pay particular attention to the part about the Communist Party.

“In New York City, Lead Belly, Cisco Houston, Burl Ives, Pete Seeger, Will Geer, Sonny Terry, Brownie McGhee, Josh White, Millard Lampell, Bess Hawes, Sis Cunningham, among others, all became Woody’s close friends and musical collaborators. Forming a loosely knit folk group called The Almanac Singers, they took up social causes such as union organizing, anti-Fascism, strengthening the Communist Party, peace, and generally fighting for the things they believed in the best way they could: through songs of political protest and activism. Woody became one of the prominent songwriters for the Almanac Singers.”

http://woodyguthrie.org/biography/biography4.htm

The Dems control the White House and congress. So where are all these practical solutions? Could Michael Moore be right about them?

shootfromthehip says:
March 11, 2010 at 2:07 pm

So you are for repealing all cigarette taxes then I take it, “I’m Not Blue?”

Are you really equating cigarettes with soda? Really? And the similarities are…?

Yeesh.

How do you then propose we make up that budget shortfall?

Oh, I don’t know… perhaps, STOP SPENDING SO DAMN MUCH!

The problem with Republicans is they are against everything. What they fail to do is figure out how to pay for anything.

So they’re against everything, and they fail to pay for the nothing they’re for? What?

I think you’ve got the parties confused. Republicans want less spending, so they can lower taxes. Democrats want increased spending, so they raise taxes or increase the deficit.

All rhetoric, no practical solutions to real problems.

Well… the “practical solution” to obesity is personal responsibility… not made up “punishment” taxes on items like soda!

How much do you want the government to tell you to do? Should they publish a list of acceptable foods, and tax everything besides those foods? Would you accept taxes on potato chips, cookies, pork, beef, ice cream, chocolate, coffee, non-skim milk, cheese, etc? You know, that stuff isn’t great for you if you shove it down your throat like a garbage disposal. Why not let the government make ALL our decisions!

Big brother telling you what you can and can’t eat. Is that what you think “freedom” is?

Well the soda tax is one of them. Things take TIME to work their way through the system. Especially when the opposition party likes to filibuster and employ every dirty trick in the book to slow and/or impede progress.

A couple of pueblo societies in the Southwest tax junk food and ever since I discovered this fact, I’ve been all in favor of it along with other “sin taxes”, such as on recreational drugs, prostitution, in addition to Coke and Doritos.

As for the deep fried candy bars and such, they’re available at pretty much every fair in America and apparently there’s some kind of move to make them available inside. Not only is there the place mentioned in the Glenn Beck show, but I recall Kathy Griffin took Bette Midler to a snack bar in Vegas for such delicacies on the season premiere on E.

Imnotblue: are you retarded? Just checking, because you display remarkably poor thinking skills.

NO I AM NOT saying cigarettes and soda are equally dangerous. My point was that cigareets are bad for you, yet we tax them.

Soda is bad for you, so i have no problem (even though i drink soda) paying 10 cents more to help pay for rising health costs. And if that extra costs pushes a few families to buy apple juice instead of coke, i’m ok with that.

And your other arguments sure would hold a lot more water if, you know, the GOP congress under a GOP President from 2000 to 2006 didn’t spend like drunken sailors.

The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus — with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit.

But no one, NO ONE is saying “let’s ban soda.”

So fuck you for trying to invoke “Big Brother.”

@ImNotBlue: Several states exempt food from sales tax, but they don’t exempt “junk food” or snacks, so though I’m sure nobody’s list is complete, there is already a basis for such lists.

Hey shootfrom the hip,
In the news today, is a NY congressman that is trying to get salt BANNED in ALL restaurants. How does that sound to you?

And your language sucks. Steve, can’t you do something about the use of the F bomb? It would be greatly appreciated.

Steve has left the building.

“No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food for consumption by customers of such restaurant, including food prepared to be consumed on the premises of such restaurant or off of such premises,” the bill, A. 10129 , states in part.

Actually, if they want to ban salt, ban the hotdog! Those little bastards a loaded!

All the Marys in Heaven, no! Grandpa Walton was a Commie? That explains why by overwhelming numbers our recent high school graduates, when asked their political party preference, answer: CPUSA! Who would have thought when we were encouraging our children to watch wholesome, family television, they were being indoctrinated into Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism. Well, that does it. Our nation is ruined forever. Do you think we ought to find out how the sponsors of the “Waltons” were so that we can organize a retroactive boycott?

” Our nation is ruined forever.”

Not forever. Only until people like you are no longer with us.

(And BTW, does anyone know what the fuck he is babbling about?)

Will Geer played the role of Grandpa Walton, a/k/a Zebulon Tyler Walton. We use to watch the “Waltons” during our Young Pioneer meetings in Boarding School.

Why do you have to use such foul language. Do you think it’s cute?

I told you before Royal A, I’m just white trash compared to an elitist like you.

But some days, I just have a hard-on for you, and this is one of those days. Enjoy!

shootfromthehip says:
March 11, 2010 at 2:27 pm

Imnotblue: are you retarded?

Satire?

NO I AM NOT saying cigarettes and soda are equally dangerous. My point was that cigareets [sic] are bad for you, yet we tax them.

But you are saying that both are so dangerous, so life threatening, that the government must take charge of the situation. Wow.

Soda is bad for you, so i have no problem (even though i drink soda) paying 10 cents more to help pay for rising health costs.

I’m sorry, who said it was going to help rising health costs? Where did you pull out that nugget from? Ah… you ASSUMED it was going to health costs. Doubtful.

And if that extra costs pushes a few families to buy apple juice instead of coke, i’m ok with that.

Oh, no… apple juice has far too much SUGAR to be acceptable. Plus, apple juice is often more expensive than soda. I guess you don’t mind punishing poor people, do you? I guess they’ll have water… I hope it’s clean.

And your other arguments sure would hold a lot more water if, you know, the GOP congress under a GOP President from 2000 to 2006 didn’t spend like drunken sailors.

Well, that claim would have more legitimacy, if I was saying that the Republicans were better than Democrats. I’m not saying that (I guess another assumption), I’m saying that THIS is stupid, and the Democrats pushing are being stupid. No pro-Republicanism in that, is there?

The day the Bush administration took over from President Bill Clinton in 2001, America enjoyed a $236 billion budget surplus — with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6 trillion. When the Bush administration left office, it handed President Obama a $1.3 trillion deficit.

Completely irrelevant. Moving on.

shootfromthehip says:
March 11, 2010 at 2:29 pm

So fuck you for trying to invoke “Big Brother.”

Where did I say “ban” soda? I didn’t realize that to act like “Big Brother,” you need to “ban” something. Although, I think making it fiscally unattainable works too.

Nice language by the way…

The Real Royal King says:
March 11, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Why do you have to use such foul language. Do you think it’s cute?

Funny… you didn’t ask Shoot the same question. Why is that?

(White) Royal “K”ing went to private school and boarding school. Thus he assumes that every white person had it as easy as he did. That’s why he’s self-loathing and has such derision for whites. He just can’t believe there are whites out there who weren’t born with a silver spoon in their mouths. That’s why he never hesitates to label crowds of thousands or entire sections of the country as racist, but “doesn’t want to talk behind his back” when asked if Louis Farrakhan is a racist. And in his mind, he sees no double standards or hypocrisy going on. Ain’t he a pip?

INB: I must not have seen Shoot’s post(s), but if he used the same language as Azarkhan, he is using offensive, foul, vulgar and crude language. When such language is used, the commenter ought to be banned.

Well thank God that Glenn has exposed “This Land is Your Land” as Commie propaganda; it’s about damn time!! I have informed the school that my seven year old attends that exposing her or other first graders to commie indoctrination, vis-a-vis, “This Land is Your Land” will NOT be tolerated and if ignored will leave me no choice but to have a tea party protest; which will not be pretty, that I promise.

Writer – Your obsession with race has now become pathological and I believe you were warned that this obsession was about to get you tossed. Do you recall that?

I agree with the shit flinging Baboon.

He should be free to stuff his nose, gut and rear end with as much coke, booze and doritos as he wants.

We don’t need no stinking government telling us moonshine is bad for you. Or stop us from garage quality speed.

Might as well throw in a couple boxes of Oxy for a good night’s sleep. I am sure there couldn’t be any ill effects from this. Just look at the shit flinging Baboon, just look how well he turned out.

Tea Baggin’ mini Baboons, one of the functions of TAXES is to discourage negative behavior. And the government’s role doesn’t stop there, you mini Baboons. That is why both booze and cigarettes sales are PROHIBITED to underage buyers; even restricted sales to adults after a cut off time (last call) and closing of alcohol sections in supermarkets or liquor stores, and penalties for DUI.

Odd. I don’t see you bitching about those “gubimint controls of your life”

Ted, it’s not my obsession with race, it’s the far left’s. Can’t help it if pointing out your hypocrisy is seen as obsession. And if my posts are that bad, then why aren’t shoot and Mr. Bovine also in your self-righteous sights? Bovine has yet to post without it being some kind of hateful insult. Where’s your outrage there, Teddy? Hmmm?

Clown.

More “poppycock” from you. In noway are my posts as offensive or as racist as yours.

You definitely have a problem. Not one of “self-hatred” but rather the other explicit type. You might as well go full STORMFRONT and stop pretending.

writer – does that mean you do remember being warned or not? Your obsession with race is getting just a bit out of hand. I have no idea what you are pointing out but it isn’t hypocrisy and it isn’t good.

I’ll let the moderators sort it out.

I do think Mr. Glenn Bovine Koldys, that Writer’s views on, shall we say, “diversity and tolerance” are becoming painfully clearer to all of us as time passes.

Ted, nice to know you’re setting yourself up as a moderator. And it’s neat how you completely ignored my asking you about all the offensive comments coming from the left. If Bovine is allowed to post his hatred so freely, the moderators must be dropping the ball. Still, Ted, it’s nice to know you’re so fair, pointing out all that left wing hatred. Oh, wait……

I see it more as another example of how the tea baggers are indeed protesting about more than “tax and spend” policies, just like the Baboon’s unhinged rants.

But once in a while the proverbial “Freudian slip” occurs and their ugly truth appears.

Clown,

What hatred?

Referring to Glenn Beck as a shit flinging Baboon? – Is that it? Well, yes. I guess baboons could feel insulted. So I apologize to them.

As for the shit flinging Baboon Beck, where is his apology, and Rupert’s and Roger’s for allowing this continuing insult to all Americans, especially those of you who consider yourselves “conservatives”

Do I have to remind you there are thinking, intelligent “conservatives” who cringe at the Baboon Beck’s daily displays of ignorance and stupidity tarring them and taking them down with him?

How about the Baboon’s listeners and followers? It is not an insult but an accurate description they have to be MORE stupid and MISINFORMED to believe what the Baboon Beck spouts.

If the shoe fits, kid…

Yeah, Bovine. And calling Beck names is as far as you’ve ever gone. Right? And Ted, one more thing about my supposed obsession with race. Have you ever noticed Royal King’s posts, where he goes out of his way to put the word ‘white’ in ( ) when accusing all ‘tea baggers’ or all southerners of being racists? Where’s the outrage, Ted? If Royal had been doing that with (blacks) or (hispanics) you’d have gone ballistic. Racism only counts depending on which race you’re vilifying, I suppose. And just for pointing out your hypocrisy you want me banned? Typical far left version of free speech.

Clown,

Again, calling the Baboon Beck and his apologists idiots, morons, turds, cock suckers, tea baggers IS NOT any different than Billdo calling his person of choice for the day “pinhead” and the term “tea baggers” was foisted upon themselves with the help of another Fox gNOpig Propaganda rabble rouser.

Turd, I guess when the Baboon barked “BULL CRAP” your virginal ears bled with joy just like when the Baboon declared “progressives” to be “the enemy”

Show me a post where I’ve vilified YOU, TURD for being “white” My disgust with your posts is because you turn almost ANY issue into a race battle, even when such is not being discussed. Again, something the Baboon has done in repeated occasions through his ignorant comments. Also you have not limited this behavior of yours when replying to me, but to other posters as well.

You do have a problem. Go full STORMFRONT and be done with it.

Yes, your calm post above is representative of your mindset. And I invite anyone to visit the thread about conservatism and Texas school books to see some more of your gems. Are you, with a straight face, able to say that your posts to anyone disagreeing with you haven’t been some of the most hateful and insulting posts on the entire site? To use one of your favorite terms, Clown, you’re a bald faced liar.

I welcome the invitation.

Let’s have everyone see your posts turning every thread into a racial issue.

For fuck sake, one of your racist attacks contains your explicit hatred “if you are white you must be a self-hating white who never met a black ass you didn’t kiss”

Tell us RACIST CLOWN, what did ever BLACKS do to you?

You’re another one. Same to you to infinity. Nyah. Nyah. But seriously, Bovine, I could flame you all night, you could flame me, and what’s accomplished? Boring. Since you asked, I’ll go ahead and tell you. Unlike Royal King stated on one of his posts, I didn’t go to a private school. I went to an inner city high school where whites were the minority. The blacks were ‘street’ blacks…gang bangers. They hated the whites and the only way to survive was to stick together. Do I hate all blacks now? No. Some are the salt of the earth. What angers me is when people like Royal smear whites as racist, pretending that it’s impossible for blacks to be racist. Now I know I’ll be flamed with taunts of ‘you poor baby’ or some such. But I want no sympathy and I’m sure the far left has none. You asked. I told you.

I see no problem with taxing pop. I also don’t believe its placing an undue burden on “poor people”, as if they are so poor then they should not be spending money on pop. I don’t see it as a tax to get people to get healthier, its a tax to try and get revenue. Pretending like it will curb people drinking pop is just naive.

As for the salt ban, that would never pass. The restaurant lobby would kill any bill that tried to stop any salt being used in preparation of food.

… I shall come out and taunt you again.

Of course. Coming from a private school, you know much more of the ways of the world than I, who had to come up through the trenches. Had the races been reversed in the above post, you’d be bawling your eyes out right now, yelling how evil the white devil is. Totally expected by now, Royal. Boring.

@writer

I also grew up in the inner-city and lived across from a whore house. The area was predominately black and puerto rican. I got along fine with them and never was threatened. I was however mugged by a group of white guys and had a switchblade held up to my neck. Now its your right to say that blacks “hate whites” but that’s a pretty stereotypical. What more likely is the case is that people form social connections and whoever is not in their social network are cast as outsiders and are more likely to be castigated.

Its much easier to make a blank statement that all x are y, but that is not true. Its not possible to classify everyone in such a broad stroke.

Wow, I’m not touching this conversation!

marcus, I didn’t say all the blacks hated the whites. Some were decent people, even in that enviornment. But the gang bangers hated whites. They were racist. My point is, so many of our left wing posters act like the black race is somehow exempt from ever having racists. I’ve seen otherwise. I’ve witnessed large gangs of blacks attacking one or two white kids and beating the hell out of them, yelling ‘white m..f..’ as they did it. I don’t think I’m stereotyping when I say those particular blacks did indeed hate whites. While it would be foolish to say all blacks hate whites, it’s also foolish to pretend that none of them do. Capiche?

“but I recall Kathy Griffin took Bette Midler to a snack bar in Vegas for such delicacies on the season premiere on E.”

That sounds like the absolute most horrifying thing I’ve ever heard of. Not quite as horrifying reading the chess piece and the one that screams BABOON all the time.. but close.

I’ve noticed that too. What is the deal with the one guy screaming baboon repeatedly? He seems to have some anger issues.

@writer

That’s fine. I just took offense to where you stated, “The blacks were ’street’ blacks…gang bangers. They hated the whites and the only way to survive was to stick together.” I understand that you followed that up with the clarification “[s]ome are the salt of the earth”. While I understand that some black people have racism or prejudices, that is also true for everyone. All persons have these prejudices and some of those prejudices lead to racism, and it will continue to exist as long as there are different races and ethnicities.

While you may have witnessed very well could have been a racist act, it doesn’t mean it was. From the gangs I’ve been around, they have a hatred for anyone who is not in their group regardless of race. If you aren’t one of them, then your life has no meaning to them. I don’t think racists is the proper word for these gangs, the more accurate word would be misanthropes.

I agree that its foolish to pretend that no blacks hate whites. Regarding the posters on here, I find many of them just looking to troll. So far I’ve found several that are worthy of replying to and who I believe actually do have something meaningful to say; but even some in the group that I think say valid points, they have other posts which are equally frustrating because they feed the trolls and have just as obnoxious retorts. The most annoying thing on here is the lack of dignity that some on here show. People who don’t agree with a certain point of view far too often question not the POV but the persons intellect instead of actually questioning their argument. The petty personal attacks are pointless and its from partisans on both sides. Even in this thread you have made some valid points but also resorted to petty personal attacks on TRRK. Now I have no idea who he is, but I’m pretty sure you could have made a more coherent argument than what you stated. On the other side, there are people like Ted who makes personal attacks on others and its the same cyclical pointless conversations post after post. I am most positive that I can find these same arguments in other posts on mediate and they are essentially all the same. Just don’t feed the trolls! =D

writer says:
March 11, 2010 at 6:43 pm

I have one wise ass remark about your high school experience, but I’ll skip it in the interest of repeating what obviously some have taken the effort explaining, to their credit, in polite terms and me, not so politely.

You are making gross generalizations, one after another after another, to the point of accusing me of being a “self-hating white” while I tried to explain I didn’t support stupid statements from Farrakhan and Wright; be that as it may, your personal experience does not justify your bias and does not support your fallacy.

So you went to a high school where you witnessed and probably suffered first hand the harassment of black GANG BANGERS.

BFD. I could tell you stories about me and my friends, or my personal opinion of ANY GANG BANGER, but that is not the point.

The original point that will be repeated, over and over, is the length to which listeners and defenders of the shit flinging Baboon reach. Apparently, to them it doesn’t matter what new stupid, far fetched, daily paranoid hallucination the Baboon barks to make them wet their panties. I’ve also mentioned how other “intellectual conservatives” do not think too highly of the Baboon, or their followers. I’ve stressed “intellectual conservatives” because they can express their political opinions without descending to lowest common denominator appeal the Baboon and the Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network use.

Take for instance one of the Baboon’s recent decrees, “The Progressives are the enemy”
WTF does that even mean? I’m not going to ask you to defend such stupidity, as you will probably find a way to do it. And embarrass yourself.

JMO, but if someone on TV upsets you that badly, couldn’t you just not watch?

Bovine, which ‘fallacy’ are you referring to? You asked what blacks had ever done to me and I told you my personal experience. How is that a fallacy? If I’d said something like ‘all blacks hate whites’, that would’ve been a fallacy. Telling you that the black gang members at my high school were racist is a fact, not a fallacy. I do not hate all blacks and all blacks are not ‘gang bangers’. But most at my high school were. You asked and I told you. Why does that so offend you? How is that being ‘biased’? And since you so hate generalizations (LOL), I won’t express my guess on how you’d have seen the story had I been black and the gang members white. I won’t express my doubts that you’d have still been saying it’s a BFD. And it strikes me as odd that you see people being beaten up as a BFD, yet you become apoplectic at the mere words of Glenn Beck. As for my comments about Royal King, he’s stated that he went to a private school. My experience was different. To be branded as biased or racist simply because my experiences were quite different shows his total inability to walk in another’s shoes. Just my opinion. I wouldn’t want to generalize.

The “progressives” are the enemy within. ;)

‘Take for instance one of the Baboon’s recent decrees, “The Progressives are the enemy”
WTF does that even mean? I’m not going to ask you to defend such stupidity, as you will probably find a way to do it. And embarrass yourself.’

This is perfect, if he ever watches Beck he would know what Beck means.. Insulting anyone who ‘watches’ Beck because Media Matters told him so. If he is not oblivious to what Beck talks about, he is very frightened of him.

I knew better. When talking with Mr. Bovine about race, I knew the far left mantra was coming. If blacks experience white racism, it’s an outrage. If whites experience black racism, it’s a joke. BFD. And from his constant “Shit flinging baboon” rantings, the signs were all there. I blame myself for being drawn into a tit for tat exchange with someone who is so obviously mentally disturbed.