And the conspiracies theories continue on mass. 

Glenn Beck thinks this Spider Man looks like Obama, that statement really is coming from another universe.

My goodness..I will continue to pray for America…I don’t even understand the madness going on anymore….

I blame Crisis On Infinite Earths for all this alternate history nonsense, a cheap way for the comic companies to make a buck.

I hate it when politics get involved with comic books. I just wish conservatives concentrate on their low taxes/limited government mantra… This is bulls*it

Why can’t spider man be gay, black, and dead????

Now there’s a spiderman story nobody has ever told!!!!!

Ha hahaha!

I just got back from comicon and that is soooooooo true!!!!!

“Reading the way that Daily Mail article is structured and the way the Drudge links are phrased, it’s clear that the writers are banking on attracting bigots. ”

Kinda like the daily stories about conservative X who says Obama is arrogant, so that conservative is obviously a racist.  It’d be nice if your “moral outrage” worked both ways there, Johnny.  But, like most liberals, it doesn’t.  

You should have allowed the race baiters to fall in the trap. 

The characters belong to Marvel.  Black, white, straight, gay, Christian, Muslim, human, gnome- they can do with them as they please.

Aunt May needs a good killing btw.

Aunt May needs a good killing btw.

LOL

I am currently rereading Crisis again after many years, and it is totally confusing and started all of this ridiculousness. Comic continuity should never be that confusing, they were just looking for a way to make big money with maxi-series and tie in’s and all that junk. It’s stupid that you even have an Ultimate Spider-Man, I say kill them all off. And now Marvel is doing all new number 1 issues. Please stop!!!

Glenn Beck currently resides on Earth X where everything is a conspiracy promulgated by the Anti-Monitor, it is up to Harbinger and Alexander Luthor to set things right with the Multiverse.

 DC is relaunching all their titles at #1 as well. Good times!

Matt Drudge does this all the time.
The wording of his links is questionable at best.
Considering Matt’s sexual orientation, you would think he would know better.
And Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race.

that’s not stopping some Conservative media figures from completely distorting the truth to gin up outrage

Interesting that little Johhny should write this since most people saw this on HuffPo. But keep up the good looney left work little Jonny.

A little inside baseball humor there folks!!!!

Careful though-Marvel has an Earth X too.

“Oh my God, you guys! Did you hear? Marvel Comics killed Spider-Man and they made him some black, gay guy!”  AND, he’s half hispanic !

Given him an IQ of 8 and he’s the PERFECT composite lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist – and that’s NOT a coincidence.

And they ask why people despise the tea party….

Why the masked h/t? I think you’re doing the right thing as I wouldn’t want to give MMFA any credence. Dan is a class guy. MMFA is the anti-Dan.

I have a ten sided die and am rolling for stamina points against a Level 12 Troll carrying magic.  Mom, keep the girls out of my basement and I’m almost out of Fresca!

Looks more like Tiger Woods as a teenager.

You should go drink some purple Kool-Aid with Jim Jones.

Actually, Marvel screwed up the “real” Spider-man several years ago when Peter Parker made a deal with the demon Mephisto to have his marriage to Mary Jane erased in order to save Aunt May.

Also, popular 90s X-Men character Psylocke was changed from a prude British girl into a slutty Asian ninja chick whose costume really was nothing more than a couple pieces of dental floss.  Nobody minded that though, even if it was the “real” Psylocke they changed.

I’m also of the opinion that conservatives literally “make” liberals when they stick their nose in the comic geek world over stuff like this.  Think about it.

You know there’s a crisis just about every year now, right? Marvel and DC love the big cross over events. Personally I think they should discontinue making monthly serial titles. That’s the reason you have so many stupid, and confusing, storylines. There shouldn’t be, for example, a monthly Spiderman title (let alone 2-4). If a writer comes up with a good idea and direction for the character, let him do a mini series. The writers that would find themselves with nothing to write about could start work on original material. Their work would probably improve as a result, if it’s their “baby” they’re working on. Look at J. Michael Starczinsky’s putrid run on Spiderman, compared to his excellent original work in Rising Stars.

Harbinger as in Peter Stanchek, nemesis of Toyo Harada, or some crappy b-grade DC character?

Been there, done that.  See was married to Dr. Octopus too.

All they do by messing with this subset counter culture is turn a bunch of “could care less apolitical outsiders” into liberal voters.

Don’t get me started. Okay, here we go. Aunt May was dead before. I think it was the 400th issue. The cover was all nice, a cut out of a tombstone. Then they decided, screw it, Aunt May didn’t die. She was kidnapped and an actor was in her place. The whole clone/replica/impersonator thing is nothing to Spidey titles. Then she got shot around the time of the Marvel Civil War. You know, the story arc in which Iron Man somehow convinces Peter Parker to out himself as Spiderman to the world, despite the fact that the everytime a villian has found out his true identity they manage to kill his girlfriend (Gwen) or muck up his life (Clone Saga) in numerous ways. Of course Marvel wasn’t going to leave Spidey unmasked. Marketing gimmicks are seldom permanent. So as Aunt May lays dying in a hospital, Spidey makes a deal with the devil’s son, Mephisto. In exchange for buying Aunt May (who can’t be that much younger than Moses) a few extra years, Spidey agrees to let Mephisto completely erase his history, conviently including the unmasking, the death of Harry Osborne, and his marriage to Mary Jane. Now this last part is important. You see, somehow the editor at Marvel, Joe Quesada, got it into his head that the problem with the Spiderman titles was the Mary Jane/Peter Parker marriage. Yeah, that’s right. By Joe’s logic, it wasn’t the years of horrible writing, some of which I’ve summarized for you above, that turned fans away from the comic series. It couldn’t be that. It had to be the fault of a fictional character. Makes perfect sense. 

People who don’t even care about comics should just keep their agenda to themselves, and not even comment with feigned outrage. Any true comic book fan was outraged a long time ago over what they’ve done to the characters and storylines, and it has nothing at all to do with race, religion, sexuality, nationality, or ethnicity. I’m tired of seeing outrage from groups like the CCC because OMG Heimdall is played by a black man. He’s a second tier character in the marvel Thor stories, at best. Do you know how much those comics deviate from the mythology? Any real fan does, and thus would not express outrage at this one change that comes after so many others have already been made. Spidey’s fan base expressed their outrage long ago, during the 1990′s when they were doing things like trying to sell the fans that the Spidey they had followed for the past 5 years was in fact just a clone.

Being a person who knows what he does and does not like, I am pretty comfortable with those things that I do like and I am at best ambivalent towards thing I don’t.

I also recognize that the 1960′s and 1970′s, when I was a kid, were much more “fun” times in my life, than now, since I am retired in my 50′s and realize that physically I cannot do all the things I did when I was 15.   Mentally I can do much more, as I have more education and experience.  Yet, as with most people I know, most of whom had a good childhood, I think fondly upon those days.

That being said, I do recall Spiderman, just as I do Superman, Batman, the Avengers, the League of Superhero’s, etc.  While Spiderman was never really one of my favorites to begin with, I like all of them as they were, and as they fit into that 60′s/70′s time frame.  So there is a very low likelihood that I would be buying these new versions of any of them, for a variety of reasons.

The main reason I will probably not buy the new stories is that, I am a bit old to be wasting money on comic books, especially in this “crap” economy, and even if I were to be buying them, I would buy the ones that contained stories that fit into the context which I have the best memories, and not out of some desire to appear trendy and PC as the new stories are so unabashedly written.  PC is just not my thing. 

Just as I prefer to read Tom Clancy’s first works (ala Hunt For Red October), as opposed to his ad nauseum techno spy series’.  But then I also do not read romance novels either, which are quite the rage with some people.   

Spiderman is Spiderman, and if he/she/it, is reborn in this universe or a parallel universe, as a black/white/orange/purple or even green person, shemale, gay, bisexual, or androgynous, or as a bacteria spreading the sky-blue pink plague, it makes little difference to me, since I did like the original and the new one is not the original, there is no need to read it.

In short, if Marvel kills off Spidey and then resurrects him the English language does not have sufficient words to express how little I care.

It’s amazing that big business conservatives, those “anything for a dividend” Republicans, would be against this.

Maybe Marvel saw that Blacks and Latinos were an under-served market in comic book purchases and decided to create a comic they’re more likely to buy. That’s capitalism. There’s a hole in the market (in this case, Black and Latinos buying comic books) and they’re filling that hole with a product geared towards them. 

If it works, and Marvel makes more money, stockholders will be happy. Why are you the stockholders at Disney (owners of Marvel) their company can’t attempt to make additional profit?

How unConservative…how UnAmerican. 

It’s amazing that big business conservatives, those “anything for a dividend” Republicans, would be against this.

Maybe Marvel saw that Blacks and Latinos were an under-served market in comic book purchases and decided to create a comic they’re more likely to buy. That’s capitalism. There’s a hole in the market (in this case, Black and Latinos buying comic books) and they’re filling that hole with a product geared towards them. 

If it works, and Marvel makes more money, stockholders will be happy. Why are you the stockholders at Disney (owners of Marvel) their company can’t attempt to make additional profit?

How unConservative…how UnAmerican. 

Guess again, to the US government Hispanic is a race, otherwise they would not have a distinction between “Hispanic” and “Hispanic non-Caucasian”.

Besides races are so intermixed one can pretty much call themselves whatever they like. 

As for myself I look as white as any Northern European, and my name carries a German lineage, however, I am actually 1/4 Tillamook Tribe.  

You are what you see yourself to be nothing more.

Guess again, to the US government Hispanic is a race, otherwise they would not have a distinction between “Hispanic” and “Hispanic non-Caucasian”.

Besides races are so intermixed one can pretty much call themselves whatever they like. 

As for myself I look as white as any Northern European, and my name carries a German lineage, however, I am actually 1/4 Tillamook Tribe.  

You are what you see yourself to be nothing more.

+1, and the guy who played Heimdall in Thor ended up being the best part the movie.

+1, and the guy who played Heimdall in Thor ended up being the best part the movie.

Nuff said.

Ha-ha, nice spin.  I like your perspective.

The Iron Man series lost me when Tony Stark got the perpetual power supply in the chest as a part of the story line, I started reading Iron Man when Tony Stark carried a cord in his belt that allowed him to recharge from a 110 volt socket.

You win the No Prize.

You may want to pick up the main Spidey series, then. Marvel, having lost faith in it’s ability to do anything creative successfully, has decided to just mimic the Spidey stories that you loved as a child.

Not that they won’t find a way to screw that up, too. So don’t hold it against me when they do.

Perhaps it indicates a lack of “original thought” that comic book team has degenerated into a rut so deep that rather than giving each audience a hero to call its own, they had to recycle old characters to drag in a new market of consumers?  Perhaps Marvel is less progressive than they appear by this move and merely going after the easy fast buck?

Nope, Spidey was fun when I was a kid, but as I said I have really moved on, the only reason I stopped by this story was that the mock anger from both sides piqued my curiosity.  Besides I am reading a series on the background and origins of the Founding Fathers and the thoughts that generated the U.S. Constitution, so at present so time is at a bit of premium.

Well said.  Agree 100%.

I can’t stand gin up outrage kinda like Erin Brown And DR. Keith Know It All Ablow in the spring time making a big deal out of nothing that a 4 year old boy was wearing pink nail poish. Saying that boys shouldn’t be wearing pink nail poish saying gender bias or something seeing the photo I looked at it as bonding with his mom my grandma would put nail poish on me when I was a little kid I had hot pink cast when I broke my arm and my favorite color is purple. So there is nothing wrong with guys wearing pink or purple shirts or wearing nail poish when they were little kids. Just like I wouldn’t care if Spider-Man is black, Laino, or was gay Spider-man takes down the bad guys and is a super-hereo and shouldn’t matter anyways. Must have been a slow news day so they had to gin up a fake outrage to be offended about so Spider-Man was the target which ridiculous. 

How very teabagger.

But COIE got rid of DC’s alternate universes (though they came back years later)! Hard to blame this story on that 25-year old series (for that matter alternate history/universes have been around forever –or even longer on Earth-5216)! 

They’re clearly setting this up so the new Spider-Man can cross over to the Archie universe and hook up with Kevin Kellem — so they can have a cross-company biracial gay marriage, which will bring about the end of the universe within days!! 

All Black people look alike.

Funny thing is, liberals would be SCREAMING if the original Parker was gay and had been “killed off”. Love how you guys twist things around to make conservatives look like…..well…..as your own Joe Biden and Barry Soetoro would say….. TERRORISTS.

Actually, no, let’s not go over the facts, because:

1) Who gives a rat’s patoot?
2) Faux conservative-homophobic outrage because the very fact of homosexuality gives them the heebie jeebies and makes them run in circles with one hand behind them to protect the sanctity of their sphincters — That’s not news.

That little quiver over “black people?” That’s not a breaking story either.

Why is that spin? Marvel’s job is create product people are going to buy. Whether you feel it’s justified or not, Marvel believes people are going to by this. Time will tell whether or not they’re right. Bottom line: they did it make money. Why else do you think Marvel created a Black/Latino Spider-Man? Because they hate America? Because Marvel is a terrorist organization? Blah blah blah?  

Please, enlighten us as to Marvel’s thinking. 

It’s a fair argument to say “they should have created an entirely new character instead of recycling an old character.” But don’t forget, Spider-Man is one of the most recognizable characters in the Western world. He’s the star of comics, movies, TV shows, video games, etc. If you’re going to create a character for the Black and Latino audience, it’s a safe bet. And if you’re a Disney shareholder, wouldn’t you prefer the safe bet?

They should make spiderman muslim.  That way he can kill and blow up muthafuckas, in the name of ALLLAH!

I don’t know what the big deal is with Spiderman being gay.  After all, EVERYBODY  in the 1950′s knew Batman and Robin were doing the dirty.  Like, what else would guys in costumes like that be doing in their spare time?

Okay, I have to call utter BULLSH*T on Jon Bershad for this one.
Because either he’s totally clueless or he’s simply a crappy writer/reporter.

First of all, the headline here (assuming Bershad wrote it since it’s attached to his piece) is total TRICKERY. No, let’s call it for what it actually is — it’s DECEPTIVE, if not an outright LIE.

Stating in big, bold letters: “No, Peter Parker Isn’t Dead, Black, Or Gay: Media Blatantly Attempts To Gin Up Outrage Over New Spider-Man” is a complete DISTORTION of the way that news outlets actually ARE covering this event.

That’s because Bershad — in his desperate desire to spew the usual Liberal bleeding heart talking points (translation: he wanted to write a long, boring, anti-Right wing piece) — CHANGED one of the key words that news organizations ARE using in their headlines.

News outlets are NOT saying “Peter Parker” (the human counterpart) has been transformed into a Black/Latino/Gay. Instead, they’re CORRECTLY reporting that SPIDER-MAN (the costumed character) has been turned into a Black/Latino/Gay.

And sorry, Bershad, but that IS a correct headline for them to throw up.
Because that is EXACTLY what has happened.

Now, Bershad correctly noted in Paragraph 3 that all of this takes place in Marvel’s “Ultimate” comic line. Which, for the non-comic book readers here, takes place in a parallel universe. And apparently, Bershad wants to fall back on that fact to rationalize why he’s got his Liberal panties in such a bunch.

However, even taking THAT into account, Bershad is STILL WRONG. That’s because several years ago Marvel launched the Ultimate line for one reason only. It was to try and boost lagging sales by creating “alternate versions” of their key characters. Basically, if these comics took place in a parallel universe, it meant Marvel could publish certain kinds of stories… they could let certain things happen… without betraying and screwing up existing continuity, which is THE backbone reason that comic fans buy monthly comics to begin with.

Because once you restart a character with a brand new Issue #1 — and although a publisher like Marvel (or DC or whoever) is hoping  that will attract new readers — ironically it has a NEGATIVE sales effect as well.

That’s because once a company announces that they are ending the long run on an existing book…and are starting from scratch again…it ALSO means that all of the older fans can now shrug their shoulders and say: “Well, why should I buy this anymore? It’s no longer MY Superman (or Batman or Fantastic Four or whoever). All of the continuity that I followed and enjoyed…and all of the back issues I have stored in the attic…are now pointless. Because NOW it’s just some new guy using the same name. But all of the history that I bought into…that I’ve enjoyed for years…has just been wiped away. So, screw it. Guess I can stop buying this now.”

And THAT is why Bershad piece is a crock as well. Because for all of his ranting and blustering…for all of HIS effort to gin up mock outrage over the things OTHER people are saying…the bottom line truth is that when Marvel launched Ultimate Spider-Man #1…and yes, even though it was set in a side universe… the main character WAS Peter Parker. And Peter Parker WAS the person that got bitten by a spider, and even in that “parallel universe”, Parker was STILL the centerpiece for all Spider-Man stories.

Which means — contrary to Bershad’s looney Lefty rantings — news organizations working “Peter Parker” into their banner headlines would STILL be acceptable, in a splitting hairs sort of way.

Is that why the 2010 Census form specifically stated “Hispanic is NOT a race”?

Sorry, I know I just wrote a long post tearing Bershad a new one.
But regarding his piece, there’s one more thing I need to call BULLSH*T on.

Bershad’s whole argument that the media is trying to “gin up outrage” (translation: Bershad believes he’s taking the “moral high ground” against racism while others are not) is intellectually feeble. More important, it’s actually an INSULT to all of the people who are posting away online, talking about this “blip on the radar screen” pop culture event.

And that’s because the average person sees right through this. They see it for the pure marketing ploy…the pure hackery… that it is. And the icing on the cake is the additional FACT that it’s just one more example of political correctness run amuck. And you know how that’s true? Because those who are trying to weakly defend this crock pot idea are instantly falling back on the LAME and eye-rolling defense of calling people “racists.” Simply because those people are smart enough to see this for what it is — a desperate sales stunt by Marvel Comics.

Of course, it does show JUST how brilliant Stan Lee, Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby were back in the early Sixties when they created Spider-Man. And conversely it shows just how CREATIVELY BANKRUPT Marvel Comics and writer Michael Bendis are in comparison in our time.

Because if you’re telling me that 50 years later Marvel and Bendis couldn’t simply sit down and create an all-new superhero who is Black or Latino or Gay (or whatever the heck this moron is)…that would be unique unto himself and that comic fans would actually be interested in following…

…It only goes to show that they’re flying on fumes at the so-called “House of Ideas” (Marvel). Because the ONLY answer they have for lagging sales is to keep pimping…and re-pimping…and re-re-re-pimping the Spider-Man concept, by continually bastardizing the vision that some true comic geniuses once had.

Lol

Spiders are either born gay or they’re not gay you can’t turn a spider gay.  But if he is born gay, you can take him to Michele Bachmann’s husband for treatment or perhaps dancing lessons.

Let’s see if I’ve got this right.

Peter Parker isn’t dead.  Except he is.

Spider-Man isn’t black.  Except he is.

Spidey isn’t gay.  Except he probably will be.

Got it.

Hey folks! 

It’s time for another one of Mediaite’s patented “Let’s Stoke Racial Animosity For Clicks®” post!

Have at it all you racists and non-racists! Click away!

I don’t work for Marvel so I can’t enlighten you to shit.  I just liked your perspective on their business model.  I can say with confidence that they probably like America rather than hate it, if that helps.  Also, they probably dog the publicity. =)

Probably for the best. As I said, I expect they’ll screw it up anyway.

Recycling worn out concepts and lack of originality is what’s killing the big two.

There are multiple story lines in multiple universes
in virtually every comic line, Marvel DC Dark Horse just to name a few.
This is one possible universe basically for a singularly possible
Spiderman story. Is it really that offensive to you all that a
character that resides behind a mask just so happens to me of a race
other than white. While I’ll admit the idea isn’t entirely original I
will say at least its slightly more original than misinformed bigots
running their mouths online.

Spiderman is a RINO!

There is a muslim super hero

Good for you. It was pretty ignorant to begin because black people aren’t black, white people aren’t white, Indians aren’t red and Asians aren’t yellow.

The Ambiguously Gay Duo…

Also who knew that a latino-black hero mash-up is the color purple (maybe just my screen). Yes, he does have a bit of an young Obama look to him, if you reallly want to see it that way.

Marvel isn’t touching their golden heroes line-up- except in the new movie coming out, the role of Peter Parker is played by a Brit! The outrage!

What do original Mary Jane calls Peter “Tiger.” I can can just imagine what the black Mary Jane calls Peter.you have to lose that this version of Peter Parker enjoys listening to Rick James’ song “Mary Jane.” Also, the

The original Mary Jane calls Peter “Tiger.” I can can just imagine what the African American version of Mary Jane calls Peter. What do you have to lose have that this version of Peter Parker enjoys listening to Rick James’ song “Mary Jane?”

You better believe it.  His name was the prophet Moohamad.  He killed plenty of muthafuckas!

He was the real muthafuckin super hero!

Great article. Comics are meant to be entertainment anyway. Marvel wants to make money, so they made an alternate character in an attempt to make a profit. It’s not causing any harm, and will probably inspire or create more entertainment. On the other hand, the Daily Beat or whatever its called tried to spin the story in an attempt to generate viewers and consumers from the bigot demographic. While the purpose was still for profit, it also plays upon the negative qualities of this nation, much less humanity. So I consider CBS (whom just recently edited a news story that portrayed a 4 year-old black kid desiring to ” own a gun” after a shootout when the full unedited clip shows he said he “wants to become a police officer and own a gun to protect his family, thus showing us how “Accurate” and “reliable” CBS is) and The Daily Beat’s actions doing more damage than assistance.

And last and worst of all, the politics. Beck just HAD to find a way to spin how this new guy is linked to Obama and the liberals. Get over yourself, Beck. Not every black man looks like Obama. Besides, I’m sure he enjoys berating on a company that works alongside his employers anyway. Marvel and Fox (Or should I say News Corp.) have been in bed for a while, so Beck is just like CBS and the DB; attracting profit (in the form of attention and/or money) from the bigot demographic.

People suck.

Glenn Beck could not hold in the outrage of such and idea.  That must go back to his Latter Day Saints teachings and the widespread belief that Cain’s curse was a blackness of skin .

Daily Mail, banking on attracting bigots??? Jeez, you Americans have a lot to learn about the more squalid bits of the British media. It’s a bit like writing “American discovers bears shit in woods”…

It not the original 616 version then who cares.

I think we have to realise that our world changing will bring about
changes in comic book characters. Too bad it isn’t the other way around…

Anyway, here’s a cool video of Stan Lee explaining how he came up with Peter Parker/Spiderman and the morals behind them.

http://www.webofstories.com/play/16767

I hate beck as much as you, but their is a mild resemblance. 

Mind if I ignore this racist ignoramus below.

judging by the fact you have the tea party in your name, I’d say you have the IQ of…1.5?

What is the point you’re trying to make?

No, I want you to define it, because over the past week I’ve spent far too much time browsing these comments, and in doing so, I’ve seen a trend that the overwhelming majority of conservatives and/or right-leaning posters don’t so much convey ideas through posts as they use the post as a way to hurl bitter, spiteful insults at whomever they see as “the enemy.”

Why in the world would place peter parker the funny ahah and amazing guy with the other lame guy like why dude please tell me why

I’d only have a problem with if it were the “real” Peter Parker being killed off and replaced by a black and gay Spider Man. I don’t have trouble with the idea of a black and/or gay Super Hero, but Marvel can try that liberal, politically correct experiment with a brand new hero, not one who’s so well known and loved by us exactly as he is, which happens to be a white, straight guy – we don’t have to be ashamed of that now, do we?

nobody wants a homo spiderman

look while it suck if Peter died in the main series I don’t care what race or sexual orientation a new spider man be Bigots just annoy me

Ill never agree black-skinned spider-man gay, and just ignore IT! Never buy comic with that thing! Real spider-man is Peter Parker. And just him!!!!

Oh and one thin more- why dont you have spider-man-gay gender change? It wont be any worser then now

I wonder why he isn’t complaining about how they made him intentionally white.

I also love it how he says he doesn’t care, but continues ranting.

 no. gay people and religion dnt belong in comics. it should be aside from problems like tht.

 thank u! omg thank u for saying tht lol no homos period lol

lol what a new level of pandering
as if black people actually read comic books
ive never seen one black person in a comic book store
it’s like finding a unicorn

Peter Parker is Spider-man. He is white and he is not gay. If you have to make a half-black-hispanic spider-man call him something else. My hell, why do writers have to try and ruin a good character? Is it a power thing? “Yeah, I totally killed spider-man by making him a gay multicolored skin freak.”

I think I am going to be ill… I’m glad I’m too tired to read comics anymore. It’s just sad I have to get news like this.