Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls And Figure Out How To Stay In Office’

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by Colby Hall | 5:10 pm, September 8th, 2010

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President Obama gave an impassioned speech on the economy today in Parma, Ohio, and seemed to not only go after his GOP adversaries, but also addressed his rather bleak poll numbers of late. Sounding at times like his speechwriter was Aaron Sorkin (creator of West Wing), Obama referenced other great Republican presidents like Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and yes, even Ronald Reagan, claiming that they were “serious leaders for serious times.” Could this be the renaissance of Barack Obama’s mojo?

As we reported before, the president’s speech can be seen as a kick-off to the coming midterm elections. Addressing middle class tax cuts and cutting the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy is clearly a major tactic to address the current stagnant economy, and the flailing polls. Transcript of the prepared statement follows the last seven minutes of the President’s speech, embedded below:

I am absolutely committed to fiscal responsibility, which is why I’ve already proposed freezing all discretionary spending unrelated to national security for the next three years. And once the bipartisan fiscal commission finishes its work, I will spend the next year making the tough choices necessary to further reduce our deficit and lower our debt.

Of course, reducing the deficit won’t be easy. Making up for the 8 million lost jobs caused by this recession won’t happen overnight. Not everything we’ve done over the last two years has worked as quickly as we had hoped, and I am keenly aware that not all our policies have been popular.

So no, our job is not easy. But you didn’t elect me to do what’s easy. You didn’t elect me to just read the polls and figure out how to keep myself in office. You didn’t elect me to avoid big problems. You elected me to do what’s right. And as long as I’m President, that’s exactly what I’ll do.

This country is emerging from an incredibly difficult period in its history – an era of irresponsibility that stretched from Wall Street to Washington and had a devastating effect on a lot of people. We have started turning the corner on that era, but part of moving forward is returning to the time-honored values that built this country: hard work and self-reliance; responsibility for ourselves, but also responsibility for one another. It’s about moving from an attitude that said “What’s in it for me” to one that asks, “What’s best for America? What’s best for all our workers? What’s best for all our businesses? What’s best for our children?”

These values aren’t Democratic or Republican. They aren’t conservative or liberal values. They’re American values. As Democrats, we take pride in what our party has accomplished over the last century: Social Security and the minimum wage; the GI Bill and Medicare; Civil Rights and worker’s rights and women’s rights. But we also recognize that throughout history, there has been a noble Republican vision as well, of what this country can be. It was the vision of Abraham Lincoln, who set up the first land grant colleges and launched the transcontinental railroad; the vision of Teddy Roosevelt, who used the power of government to break up monopolies; the vision of Dwight Eisenhower, who helped build the Interstate Highway System. And yes, the vision of Ronald Reagan, who despite his aversion to government, was willing to help save Social Security for future generations.

These were serious leaders for serious times. They were great politicians, but they didn’t spend all their time playing games or scoring points. They didn’t always prey on people’s fears and anxieties. They made mistakes, but they did what they thought was in the best interest of their country and its people.

That’s what the American people expect of us today – Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. That’s the debate they deserve. That’s the leadership we owe them.

I know that folks are worried about the future. I know there’s still a lot of hurt out here. And when times are tough, I know it can be tempting to give in to cynicism and fear; to doubt and division – to set our sights lower and settle for something less.

But that is not who we are, Ohio. Those are not the values that built this country. We are here today because in the worst of times, the people who came before us brought out the best in America. Because our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents were willing to work and sacrifice for us. They were willing to take great risks, and face great hardship, and reach for a future that would give us the chance at a better life. They knew that this country is greater than the sum of its parts – that America is not about the ambitions of any one individual, but the aspirations of an entire people and an entire nation.

That’s who we are. That is our legacy. And I’m convinced that if we’re willing to summon those values today; if we’re willing again to choose hope over fear; to choose the future over the past; to come together once more around the great project of national renewal, then we will restore our economy; rebuild our middle-class; and reclaim the American Dream for the next generation.

Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.

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Azarkhan

“Of course, reducing the deficit won’t be easy” Pres Obama

No asshole, it won’t. Especially after you and your fellow Democrat scum have run up the deficit by several trillion more dollars.
Azarkhan

“These were serious leaders for serious times” Pres Obama

And now all we have is a sorry leftist bitch like you.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Obama’s view is that all the money you make is the governments and that you should be glad they let you keep part of it. When you claim that you have to pay for a tax cut is nonsense, it is not the governments money. Institute the Fair Tax and watch the economy grow and government revenues go through the roof.
Big Eddie

Time to take a few days off and relax for a change . … Has the guy who wrote that speech ever met Barack Obama ? …Words…just words .
Haimerej

“I am absolutely committed to fiscal responsibility”

I almost lost it on that part.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Stick to yer guns, Barack.

Haters gonna hate anyway. :)
Arkansas Steve

Let’s read this headline again:

Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls And Figure Out How To Stay In Office’

Restated:

Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Give a Damn About WHAT YOU THINK……

Really?
TfT

Obama In Ohio: Hello Illinois! (h/t ace)
Iris

Jeeze, what a suprise…. old right wingers on mediaite with nothing better to do with their lives sitting around criticizing Obama and hatemongering
felixw

“You didn’t elect me to read the teleprompter and….whoops, I meant read the polls….excuse me, you did elect me to read the teleprompter….”
BatBoy

He is starting to sound like Lyndon Johnson…..this will be in BO’s speech a year from now….

“Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.”
dcmediasux

well, if anyone would know ‘scripted’ it would be ol’ Colby here…seems he just takes what the WH pressoffice feeds him, snides it up a bit and then presses “SEND”.

and lets not forget – the dimones in the DC media who chose obama way back in 2007 over a much more competent, experienced and intelligent opponent (Hillary oh yes) made their pick because they WANT DC to resemble “The West Wing”…theyre so shallow and vacuous that they actually want real life to imitate LA’s silly but sexier portrayal…makes them feel like the celebrities they play on those unwatched cable news shows they just LUV to go on.

and iris – Im no rightwinger – Im a lifelong Dem who just hates that the same media morons who picked Bush over Gore gave us Obama…and methinks you might take a look in the closest mirror, I think you need a better look at yourself…maybe, huh?
SpineCrusher

Iris said:
Jeeze, what a suprise…. old right wingers on mediaite with nothing better to do with their lives sitting around criticizing Obama and hatemongering

Nailed it!

None of these dinosaurs have a clue of what this nation needs. It’s really pathetic, and they wonder why we’re where we are now…they should look at themselves in the mirror and acknowledge the fact that THEY are the generation that backrupted ours.

We elected BO for change…they just keep dreaming about the 50′s…when nobody questioned the rich, white power dynamic…those days are gone fellas, keep on trollin; you’re just showing the younger generation why we’ll never listen to your lies again.
SpineCrusher

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Stick to yer guns, Barack. Haters gonna hate anyway. :)

HAHA!

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/039/101/original/Asinine-America-HATERS-GONNA-HATE.jpg
PureFreedom

Big_F-ing_Deal says:
September 8, 2010 at 5:25 pm (Quote)

Stick to yer guns, Barack.
haters gonna hate anyway. :)

Its not hating… its people with common sense stating the obvious… Its people like us worried about the future for our kids that this president is spending there money and hurting everyone.
Unless your on a government support check you should be worried about this teleprompter president… Seems like even the dems are backing away from him fast.
btimsah

SpineCrusher said:
Nailed it!

None of these dinosaurs have a clue of what this nation needs. It’s really pathetic, and they wonder why we’re where we are now…they should look at themselves in the mirror and acknowledge the fact that THEY are the generation that backrupted ours.

We elected BO for change…they just keep dreaming about the 50’s…when nobody questioned the rich, white power dynamic…those days are gone fellas, keep on trollin; you’re just showing the younger generation why we’ll never listen to your lies again.

You can steal from the “rich white folk” all you want but in the end you’re not solving anything. Theft is theft regardless of whom you empower to do it on your behalf. Eventually the producers will just wise up and stop producing. A lot of people are doing that. Why produce as much as you can if the government will just steal it from you? We also steal from future generations with defecit spending and/or printing of funny money. The entire system is ran by liberty destroying actions of the theft and murder (war) and until that changes we’re going nowhere and your man Obama won’t change anything for the better. In fact, in this speech he sounded like President Bush. “Stay the course”. Stay the course means – continue the same failed policies. Good luck.
BR

Iris said:
Jeeze, what a suprise…. old right wingers on mediaite with nothing better to do with their lives sitting around criticizing Obama and hatemongering

I just want to make sure that I understand your point. Your sitting around criticizing people for sitting around criticizing……….. Ok than. Another hypocritical liberal speaks.
PureFreedom

SpineCrusher says:
September 8, 2010 at 6:03 pm (Quote)
HAHA!
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/039/101/original/Asinine-America-HATERS-GONNA-HATE.jpg

you nailed that picture with every Prius driver with the stupid Obama sticker on the back I see on the road everyday .
Big_F-ing_Deal

PureFreedom said:
Its not hating… its people with common sense stating the obvious… Its people like us worried about the future for our kids that this president is spending there money and hurting everyone.

And just how exactly do we separate those people from the ones who hate Obama because he’s a Muslim, Black, not a citizen, reads from a teleprompter or has a rug with a misquote on it?

Sorry dude, the Right has let their hate get the best of them far beyond any budget issues. Open yer eyes.
btimsah

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
And just how exactly do we separate those people from the ones who hate Obama because he’s a Muslim, Black, not a citizen, reads from a teleprompter or has a rug with a misquote on it?

Sorry dude, the Right has let their hate get the best of them far beyond any budget issues. Open yer eyes.

Your “hate” claim is nothing more than a way for you to avoid a debate of substance.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Yeah, why am I not debating the “substance” in this thread?

“No asshole, it won’t.”

“And now all we have is a sorry leftist bitch like you.”

“Obama In Ohio: Hello Illinois!”

“you did elect me to read the teleprompter”

lmfao
PureFreedom

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
And just how exactly do we separate those people from the ones who hate Obama because he’s a Muslim, Black, not a citizen, reads from a teleprompter or has a rug with a misquote on it?

Refresh Your memory: Did you forget The Hate on Bush by the left….Or right now the media who crucifies Palin and her daughter. The meanness and hate filled left is far beyond anyone on the right commenting about Obama’s teleprompter support. The most vial stuff I hear is on Palin that has nothing to do with her political views.
Sorry I think the Liberals own the hate word!
AntiHyperbole

“They drove the car into the ditch” “They drank a slurpee while we worked and sweated” “They want insurance companies to deny single working mothers health care” “They want to stop you while your out to get ice cream with your kids and ask to see your papers”.

All that this man and fellow democrats rely on is verbal tactics aimed at stirring emotion. Its all stimuli. Rather than substance, sincerity, and honest accountable leadership, they create sad word pictures of ridiculous generalizations
Big_F-ing_Deal

PureFreedom said:
Big_F-ing_Deal said:
And just how exactly do we separate those people from the ones who hate Obama because he’s a Muslim, Black, not a citizen, reads from a teleprompter or has a rug with a misquote on it?

Refresh Your memory: Did you forget The Hate on Bush by the left….Or right now the media who crucifies Palin and her daughter. The meanness and hate filled left is far beyond anyone on the right commenting about Obama’s teleprompter support. The most vial stuff I hear is on Palin that has nothing to do with her political views.

WHY DO YOU GUIZ COMPLAIN WHEN THE LEFT BRINGS UP BUSH WHEN THAT IS ALL YOUR SIDE EVER FUCKING DOES!!!LOLOL!!!
Sorry I think the Liberals own the hate word!
Big_F-ing_Deal

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
WHY DO YOU GUIZ COMPLAIN WHEN THE LEFT BRINGS UP BUSH WHEN THAT IS ALL YOUR SIDE EVER FUCKING DOES!!!LOLOL!!!

OOPS
More Liberty

Colby Hall wrote:
“Could this be the renaissance of Barack Obama’s mojo?”

Hahhahahahahaha….lol…hhahahahaha…yeah sure man…LOL….that was good.
Azarkhan

Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls And Figure Out How To Stay In Office’

Too busy to look at polls? Perhaps. But not too poor to pay for them. While Gibbs routinely chides members of the press for obsessing about the day-to-day temperamental swings of the American public, behind the scenes the White House has poured plenty of money into conducting its own public opinion polls. Through June 9, 2010, the administration, via the Democratic National Committee, has spent at least $4.45 million on the services of seven different pollsters, according to records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. (The Huffington Post looked into only those expenditures that totaled more than $5,000.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/obama-mocks-polls-but-spe_n_663553.html
Azarkhan

SpineCrusher said:
We elected BO for change

The unemployment rate went from 6.5% to 9.6%. Change you can believe in!
murf

LOL ! >>>>>> http://bit.ly/8Zoji3
keithcc

It’s nice to know we don’t have a president but just a campaigner. Has he ever spent a day in the office to cure problems.? I guess if you don’t agree with Obama you don’t count. Good luck with that strategy Barry!!
fallenchicken

Azarkhan said:
“These were serious leaders for serious times” Pres Obama

And now all we have is a sorry leftist bitch like you.

Woah, Barrack, your speech is upsetting the tea-baggers. Keep up the good work.
Ted-

fallenchicken said:
Woah, Barrack, your speech is upsetting the tea-baggers. Keep up the good work.

When Palin wears pants it upsets the tea-baggers.
teufelhunden75

No, Mr. President, you read the polls so you could get elected in the first place. You’re just a really bad leader.
Ted-

teufelhunden75 said:
No, Mr. President, you read the polls so you could get elected in the first place. You’re just a really bad leader.

I’m sure he will discuss your concerns over dinner this evening.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Arkansas Steve said:
Let’s read this headline again:

Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls And Figure Out How To Stay In Office’

Restated:

Obama: ‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Give a Damn About WHAT YOU THINK……

Really?

Well, we didn’t. We elected him to govern. Do you think that Lincoln saved the Union by doing what was popular?
Mr.Papshmer

SpineCrusher said:
We elected BO for change

Hitler also brought change.
SpineCrusher

PureFreedom said:
SpineCrusher says:September 8, 2010 at 6:03 pm (Quote)HAHA!http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/039/101/original/Asinine-America-HATERS-GONNA-HATE.jpg you nailed that picture with every Prius driver with the stupid Obama sticker on the back I see on the road everyday .

hater!

You got nothing to say so you spew vitriolic garbage. Welcome to Mediaite, you’ve got plenty of company…nothing but hate and personal attacks…like that’s EVER solved ANYTHING.

That’s the attitude that got this country to where it is now. You guys like to pretend like everything happened ever since BO took office and you KNOW that’s a lie, you’re just trying to detract from the fact that you’ve ALL been taking government handouts for decades and know you want to place the blame on someone else.

The youth no longer believe in the older generation, you’re filled with hatred and lies, lies, lies! Why do you think your precious religious institutions can’t get young people to join? For the very same reason.

Your demagogeury and “do as I say, not as I do” crap is getting flushed down the toilet with your lies. Your religious/right wing wacko conservatisism is making its LAST STAND. Even if you use the media to spin your lies and win congress back…YOU WILL DRIVE THIS COUNTRY FURTHER INTO THE GROUND AND THEN YOUR PARTY WILL BE DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!

It’s time for a new political party in this country. This 2 party system is so ancient and full of crap…the only revolution that’s going to happen is you dinosaurs changing your depends and rolling to the booths in your mobile scooters while you’re high on Viagra…ONE LAST TIME…do it! You’ve got no valid leaders, nobody with any ideas whatsoever….take congress and prove me wrong…PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG!
SpineCrusher

Azarkhan said:
The unemployment rate went from 6.5% to 9.6%. Change you can believe in!

oh and that’s ALL his fault right..him and only him to blame…right?

YOU WILL NEVER SOLVE ANYTHING WITH THAT ATTITUDE!!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

AntiHyperbole said:
“They drove the car into the ditch” “They drank a slurpee while we worked and sweated” “They want insurance companies to deny single working mothers health care” “They want to stop you while your out to get ice cream with your kids and ask to see your papers”.

All that this man and fellow democrats rely on is verbal tactics aimed at stirring emotion. Its all stimuli. Rather than substance, sincerity, and honest accountable leadership, they create sad word pictures of ridiculous generalizations

Then, may I ask, how you feel about Congressional Republicans? I hardly hear any substance. Hardly any ideas. They are voting against measures that the Republican platform favors. They refuse to vote for anything, frequently before the bill has been written, thereby removing themselves from the Democratic process. The only Republican that has recently attempted to get an idea together was Rep. Ryan and now you’re not hearing too much of him.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Mr.Papshmer said:
Hitler also brought change.

Yep. So did Ghandi. So did MLK. So did FDR. So did Lincoln. So did the Founding Fathers.
Mr.Papshmer

Stephen Hogan said:
Yep. So did Ghandi. So did MLK. So did FDR. So did Lincoln. So did the Founding Fathers.

Point being is that change is not always a positive. Sorry you’re so bummed out, bub, but hey, the left has a George W. Bush of their very own now. No sense in blaming conservatives that Obama is a waste of oxygen. It’s what happens when you elect a “rock star”, rather than a real person.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Mr.Papshmer said:
Point being is that change is not always a positive. Sorry you’re so bummed out, bub, but hey, the left has a George W. Bush of their very own now. No sense in blaming conservatives that Obama is a waste of oxygen. It’s what happens when you elect a “rock star”, rather than a real person.

Nope. I’m not ‘bummed’. I just hate it when people compare the President to Hitler. It wasn’t right when the radical Left did it to Bush, and it isn’t right now. Every time someone compares anyone to Hitler, we lose a little more perspective of the horrors that man wrought.

I also wanted to point out that your statement was specious.

And anyone who doesn’t realize that not all change is good is an idiot. I don’t think you need to validate Godwin’s law to make that point.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

SpineCrusher said:
It’s time for a new political party in this country. This 2 party system is so ancient and full of crap…

YOU (right wing wacko conservatisism ) WILL DRIVE THIS COUNTRY FURTHER INTO THE GROUND AND THEN YOUR PARTY WILL BE DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!

Yeah, Bill Maher, it’s time for…..drum roll…..The Progressive Party, right!? Thankfully, there are few of you out there, otherwise this great country really WOULD be driven into the ground.
Mr.Papshmer

What’s even cooler than Godwin’s law, is the rapidity at which people are eager to point out Godwin’s law. If it makes you feel like the ol’ Internet pro, that’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that Barack W. Obama is any less a jerk and a National Socialist.
Bill Mahwer

He looked hungover from the Bump and Grindfest last night at the White House.

Forget the Koran burning when can we impeach this incompetent.
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http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Mr.Papshmer said:
What’s even cooler than Godwin’s law, is the rapidity at which people are eager to point out Godwin’s law. If it makes you feel like the ol’ Internet pro, that’s fine, but it doesn’t mean that Barack W. Obama is any less a jerk and a National Socialist.

Nice attempt at a deflection. Hitler comparisons are idiotic, hateful, and denigrate the suffering of his victims. There is never any truth to them.

As for Obama being a jerk, I don’t know him personally, so I cannot make that call. As for him being a National Socialist, that’s just blatantly false. Nationalism is the most prevalent component of National Socialism, so it’s funny to hear conservatives call him that. I thought that he ‘hates America’.
david r

‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls And Figure Out How To Stay In Office’

What a Freudian slip. This is all he has done since elected, except for preening for the camera.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

From the Telegraph

Even America’s liberal elites concede that Obama’s Presidency is crumbling

Democrats in Congress are no longer asking themselves whether this is going to be a bad election year for them and their party. They are asking whether it is going to be a disaster. The GOP pushed deep into Democratic-held territory over the summer, to the point where the party is well within range of picking up the 39 seats it would need to take control of the House. Overall, as many as 80 House seats could be at risk, and fewer than a dozen of these are held by Republicans.
Political handicappers now say it is conceivable that the Republicans could also win the 10 seats they need to take back the Senate. Not since 1930 has the House changed hands without the Senate following suit.
Iris

Like I said what a suprise the old right wing farts on mediaite hating on Obama wishing for the old days cause they can’t stand the fact that they will soon be gone and the young will change all their negativity AND if you’re lucky you can sit in the nursing home and know that GAY MARRAIGE,, EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, A MUSLIM COMMUNITY CENTER AT GROUND ZERO etc WILL EXIST cause young people aren’t scared of the rest of the world like and those that might be different the way you are.
Patrick Henry

fallenchicken said:
Woah, Barrack, your speech is upsetting the tea-baggers. Keep up the good work.

I wouldn’t say upsetting, more like amusing.
puck30

‘You Didn’t Elect Me To Read The Polls……

You know George Bush said just about the same thing back in 06′. Look what happen to the Republicans back then.

The Bump n’ Grind at the White House last night, going to Lima, Ohio. Hope Barry wasn’t too tired to get in a quick nine.
Patrick Henry

SpineCrusher said:
The youth no longer believe in the older generation, you’re filled with hatred and lies, lies, lies!

Get some help, kid.
felixw

According to figures from the Congressional Budget Office, Obama has added more to the national debt in the last 19 months, than all the Presidents from George Washington to Ronald Reagan combined. Hmmm, I think it would be better for all of us if he did spend his day reading polls. Managing the economy is apparently above his pay grade.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Iris said:
GAY MARRAIGE,, EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL, A MUSLIM COMMUNITY CENTER AT GROUND ZERO etc WILL EXIST

Tell us, Iris, what other “equal rights for all” (besides the quite unpopular idea of legalizing gay marriage) are you interested in?

Iris said:
cause young people aren’t scared of the rest of the world like and those that might be different the way you are.

Huh?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Andy Lamb said:
Tell us, Iris, what other “equal rights for all” (besides the quite unpopular idea of legalizing gay marriage) are you interested in?

Actually, it has become pretty popular. A majority of Americans support it now.
Azarkhan

When President Barack Obama took the oath of office on Jan. 20, 2009, the total federal debt held by the public stood at 6.3073 trillion, according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department. As of Aug. 20, 2010, after the first nineteen months of President Obama’s 48-month term, the total federal debt held by the public had grown to a total of $8.8333 trillion, an increase of $2.5260 trillion.

In just the last four months (May through August), according to the CBO, the Obama administration has run cumulative deficits of $464 billion, more than the $458 billion deficit the Bush administration ran through the entirety of fiscal 2008.

The CBO predicted this week that the annual budget deficit for fiscal 2010, which ends on the last day of this month, will exceed $1.3 trillion.

The first two fiscal years in which Obama has served will see the two biggest federal deficits as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product since the end of World War II.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Stephen Hogan said:
Actually, it has become pretty popular. A majority of Americans support it now.

Actually, most polls show that the majority of Americans oppose it as they always have.

Gallup – 53% oppose 44% favor
Washington Post – 50% oppose 47% favor
CBS News – 55% oppose 40% favor

And these are all liberal polling organizations.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Hogan and Iris…………….

Why not put gay marriage to a vote if you are so confidant that it has majority support? Oh, I’m sorry, we have put it to a vote in many states and it has lost everytime. EVEN in CALIFORNIA. Votes are the only polls that count unless you can get a liberal judge to reverse it.
Morgan

We are all waiting for the economy to recover. I’m sure we are all hurting. Unfortunately it won’t recover until Obama finally “gets it.”

We will know when that happens because he will announces the tax cuts will stay in effect for EVERYONE, EVEN THE RICH. Until that happens, it’s Groundhog Day again and again and again.

Don’t get your hopes up.
CrawlingHandFace

Hey Papshmer.

Whatever is typed on these posts…by anyone who’s a little to the right or left of center…do all of us a favor and Do Not invoke Hitler…Ever.
puck30

“President Obama gave an impassioned speech on the economy today in Parma, Ohio,”

they weren’t exactly knocking down the doors to hear it.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/09/tri-c_students_recruited_to_fi.html
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

gordonbloyershow said:
Hogan and Iris…………….

Why not put gay marriage to a vote if you are so confidant that it has majority support? Oh, I’m sorry, we have put it to a vote in many states and it has lost everytime. EVEN in CALIFORNIA. Votes are the only polls that count unless you can get a liberal judge to reverse it.

Well, I was wrong. I would like to know the dates of those polls.

The great thing about this country is that the rights of others are not determined by popular support.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Stephen Hogan said:
Well, I was wrong. I would like to know the dates of those polls. The great thing about this country is that the rights of others are not determined by popular support.

Stephen,
The Gallup poll is from May of this year, the other two are even more recent. I agree that civil rights should not be determined by popular vote. However, many hard core liberals and gays like to equate gay marriage to issues like women’s suffrage and other rights that blacks and women fought for – voting, being able to eat at the same restaurant, where to sit on a bus, etc. It is a ridiculous and insulting comparison to what people who wanted everyone to be treated equally as human beings fought for.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with civil rights. It is about special rights.
A civil union is the same as marriage the only difference is the word “marriage”. Changing the meaning of a word is not a civil right.
Iris

Like i said you old right wing farts are getting ready to leave the planet (don’t blame me , you have to talk to God about that) and all your fear of teh gay, the Muslim, the black and brown people will go with you
BTW you can cite all the polls you want but until the polling companies figure out how to poll the young (cause NOBODY under 30 has a land line) you have no idea what the America that will be running things think
Hugo Daun

gordonblosandblos said:
A civil union is the same as marriage the only difference is the word “marriage”.

Wrong, dummy.

http://www.factcheck.org/what_is_a_civil_union.html
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

Andy Lamb said:
Stephen,
The Gallup poll is from May of this year, the other two are even more recent. I agree that civil rights should not be determined by popular vote. However, many hard core liberals and gays like to equate gay marriage to issues like women’s suffrage and other rights that blacks and women fought for – voting, being able to eat at the same restaurant, where to sit on a bus, etc. It is a ridiculous and insulting comparison to what people who wanted everyone to be treated equally as human beings fought for.

It is Civil Rights, though. All of those goals that you mentioned are steps towards equal rights. As is the fight for gay marriage.

Why is it insulting or ridiculous? I would think that you’d find it ridiculous and insulting if the government told you who you could and could not marry.

gordonbloyershow said:
Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with civil rights. It is about special rights.
A civil union is the same as marriage the only difference is the word “marriage”. Changing the meaning of a word is not a civil right.

So, allowing someone to marry the love of their life is now a ‘special right’?

Sorry, marriage has been defined as a legal status many times by the Supreme Court. Given that it is a legal status, actively preventing someone from obtaining that status on the basis of sexuality is a violation of the 14th amendment.
felixw

Yesterday Obama made an appearance in Ohio, and couldn’t even fill the recreation center at Cuyahoga Community College. Even organizers had to scramble to fill the empty seats. Wow, what a comedown for the many who once had rock star status.
SpineCrusher

Patrick Henry said:
Get some help, kid.

I am the help, you do nothing but complain and try to divide us.

Remember the phrase “United we stand, divided we fall”

It’s very obvious which side of that phrase you and your ilk stand behind, and it’s whats tearing this nation apart.