It seem like I need to post this link on this site 3 or 4 times a week. Even the New York Times and the investigator hied by ACORN to investigate the O’Keefe tapes agree that the tapes WERE NOT misleadingly edited and the ACORN employees DID engage in misconduct:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/opinion/21pubed.html

Acorn’s supporters appear to hope that the whole story will fall apart over the issue of what O’Keefe wore: if that was wrong, everything else must be wrong. The record does not support them. If O’Keefe did not dress as a pimp, he clearly presented himself as one: a fellow trying to set up a woman — sometimes along with under-age girls — in a house where they would work as prostitutes. In Washington, he said the prostitution was to finance his future in politics. A worker for Acorn Housing, an allied group, warned him to stay away from the brothel lest someone “get wind that you got a house and that your girlfriend is over there running a house of women of the night. You will not have a career.”

FAIR said that in Brooklyn, O’Keefe and Giles seemed to be telling Acorn staffers that “they are attempting to buy a house to protect child prostitutes from an abusive pimp.” That’s right, but FAIR left out the part about their clear intention to operate a brothel, which the Acorn workers seemed to take in stride, with one warning: “Don’t get caught, ’cause it is against the law.”

The videos were heavily edited. The sequence of some conversations was changed. Some workers seemed concerned for Giles, one advising her to get legal help. In two cities, Acorn workers called the police. But the most damning words match the transcripts and the audio, and do not seem out of context. Harshbarger’s report to Acorn found no “pattern of illegal conduct” by its employees. But, he told me: “They said what they said. There’s no way to make this look good.”

In other words, the guy HIRED BY ACORN admits hat “They said what they said. There’s no way to make this look good.” Yet, hacks like Rachel Maddow are still trying to do exactly that. Shame!

Of course!! Andrew Not So Breitbart fed and fed off of a urban myth he created. In my own area in 2008 we had a prosecutor in Cincy, Joe Deters, who came out right before the election to announce an investigation of 600 incidences of voter fraud by ACORN or ACORN allies. But truth is stranger than fiction — and Ohio had ONE (1) incident of voter fraud not even in Deters’ area and not related to ACORN. Oh, did I mention? Deters was John McCain’s campaign chairman for SW Ohio.

And as the NYT piece makes clear, Maddow is LYING when she says he presented himself as a college student:

“If O’Keefe did not dress as a pimp, he clearly presented himself as one: a fellow trying to set up a woman — sometimes along with under-age girls — in a house where they would work as prostitutes. In Washington, he said the prostitution was to finance his future in politics. A worker for Acorn Housing, an allied group, warned him to stay away from the brothel lest someone “get wind that you got a house and that your girlfriend is over there running a house of women of the night. You will not have a career.””

And Maddow is LYING when she says they called the cops. Per the NYT, they only called the cops in two cities!

Oh cry more about ACORN.

How many cities did the federal criminal O’Keefe visit? ACORN is gone, it took the hit for a few employees — but the big lie ala Goebbels is that ACORN was the corrupt behemoth that tried to swing an election through fraud. And the big story, the big truth, is that the Republicans were continuing and will attempt again to suppress the vote so as to win elections for the GOP.

All Maddow is really proving is how weakly the Administration defended the supposedly saintly and noble organization known as ACORN.

In claiming that misleading edited tapes and quick decisions by officials were the cause of ACORN’s downfall, Maddow only illustrates how absolutely spineless Obama’s Administration and the Democratic Congress are, and how quick they were to throw an entire federally-funded organization under the bus instead of further investigating the incident?

If the left is correct in calling O’Keefe a lying, racist lowlife, how comfortable are they with THEIR OWN administration bowing to this “racist’s” whim to shut down ACORN with nothing more than a “faked tape”?

Either O’Keefe’s tapes are THE TRUTH, in which case, ACORN deserved to crash and burn…
or O’Keefe’s tapes are LIES, in which case, the Democratic Administration is made up of COWARDS.

Take your pick, lefties! :D

It’s not either/or, Joe – it’s a lot of both. O’Keefe’s game is obvious, race is a factor but not all of the motivation, and Andrew Not So Breibart took yellow journalism to new heights. On the flip side, the Democrats should have hit back and exposed Not So Breitbart, played the race card for real, not like in your rightwing wet dreams. The biggest problem the Democrats had (I hope it’s ‘had’) is that the Republicans were sincere, were really, for instance, working within the process. And what a crock of horseshit that was for the Republicans and their surrogates, the Teabaggers, are the most corrupt entities the nation has ever known.

That’s my pick, Joe — Like it? ( ; D>

Anonymous Finch, the only liar here is you, not Rachel.

ACORN did call the cops in San Diego. Here is the press release from the California Attorney General’s office:

http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1888&

Here is the money graph:

“Evidence obtained by Brown tells a somewhat different story, however, as reflected in three videotapes made at ACORN locations in California. One ACORN worker in San Diego called the cops. Another ACORN worker in San Bernardino caught on to the scheme and played along with it, claiming among other things that she had murdered her abusive husband. Her two former husbands are alive and well, the Attorney General’s report noted. At the beginning and end of the Internet videos, O’Keefe was dressed as a 1970s Superfly pimp, but in his actual taped sessions with ACORN workers, he was dressed in a shirt and tie, presented himself as a law student, and said he planned to use the prostitution proceeds to run for Congress. He never claimed he was a pimp. “

I remember when Okeefe was arrested her and Olbermann ran the story almost non stop. Did they even mention it when all of the felony charges (I thing there were 6 or 7) were dropped and he was only charged with a single misdemeanor? Was that not newsworthy enough? I had high hopes for Maddow, but she is turning into an Olberman-light.

Ms. Maddow: You are a very well spoken intelligent lady. Dont put all of that to waste. Its below you to be a partisan hack

Is Maddow relevant anymore? Is there an over/under on when she’ll be fired once Comcast takes over the network? Isn’t it clear that Maddow’s world view is out os sync with even the sources that she relies upon for her stories? Right after this story broke almost all of the Fox legal commentators agreed their was no criminality with ACORN because they did not actually do the things they talked about on the video. But do we want to have people who conspire to violate the tax laws being funded by the governement to give tax advice and prepare returns? Even Uber-left former Govenor Moombeam (aka Attorney General Jerry Brown) found that ACORN engaged in inappropriate conduct.

Yeah, RM, the Acorn scandal was so phony that it went out of business, but like the snake it is, it will comeback under a different name. Maybe,as MSNBC.

As for Climategate, more people believe that GW is a bunch of crap.

A while ago it was MSNBC who edited the clip when Obama was giving a speach. A protester outside was openly carrying a rifle (legally). MSNBC aired the close up of the gun and made mention of, Is Obama safe with racists carrying guns (Im paraphrasing). Turns out that they stopped the video right before it showed that the person carrying the gun was black. Now try to tell me that that wasnt edited to give their viewers a differant impression. Talk about a “made up controversy!

Bill Adkins:

If Brietbart engaged in “yellow journalism” then why is the New York Times (in my link above) stilling confirming that he was accurate (except for the pimp outfit) that the ACORN workers engaged in serious misconduct.

The New York Times is right here; Maddow is the one who is lying her backside off and engaging in yellow journalism.

Yeah, I remember that, BR – turns out the guy carrying what appeared to be a M4 was paid? by a right wing talk show host for that game. Puts a whole new spin on your ‘made up controversy,’ doesn’t it?

http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/21/assault-rifle-interview-outside-obama-town-hall-was-a-publicity-stunt/

SO I SHOULD OF IGNORED ALL OF THIS?
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ACORN Video Investigation Resources
http://biggovernment.com/acorn/

Acorn to Shut All Its Offices by April 1
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/us/23acorn.html
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Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Leaked emails reveal that ‘climategate’ scientist ‘hid’ flaws in key global warming data
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247973/Leaked-climate-change-emails-scientist-hid-data-flaws.html

Head of ‘Climategate’ research unit admits sending ‘pretty awful emails’ to hide data
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254660/Climategate-professor-Phil-Jones-admits-sending-pretty-awful-emails.html

By Rachel Maddow’s standard, the media should NOT report on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, until after they’re over.

Bill Adkins:

Who cares if some idiot paid him to be there? Why did MSNBC edit the video to make it look like it was a white guy when it was really a black guy? That’s journalistic fraud.

Bill,

“not like in your rightwing wet dreams”

Ah, right. I forgot–If I’m harshly critical of the left, it MUST mean that I’m a crazy Tea Partier and that I looked upon Dubya as a god. Must be convenient to marginalize everyone who disagrees with you and the Democrats by claiming they’re part of the extreme fringe.

Alas, you’re sorely mistaken. In my political “wet dreams”, the Democrats and Republicans annihilate each other entirely.

Bill Adkins & Joe Callan

I don’t believe it’s the ultimate job of the Democratic Party to fight back against hostile, ultra-right winged White Conservative activists and their benefactors in the Hate Media (Fox News, Talk Radio). When the party gets mired down in the weeds of racial and ethnic food fights, legislation doesn’t happen.

It’s the job of the American People to stand up. We have money. We have camcorders. We have internet access. We have minority millionaires (even billionaires) and socially conscious White brothers and sisters who can fund retaliatory strikes against these jokers…and many have been. (Glenn Greenwald, One People’s Project, etc.) It’s a tough battle, facing entrenched mainstream opposition like Newscorp and Hate Radio, but look at our history. Minorities in America have overcome Slavery, Genocide, Jim Crow despite all odds. We’ll overcome these haters, too.

My advice? Challenge the Hate Industry. Boycott the advertisers who support them. Embarrass the money changers, and expose the people they’re supporting. Keep Confronting online those who SUPPORT Hate Media, like AnonymousFinch and TylerDurdin. Call them on out on just whom they pledge their allegiences to, and cite facts to refute them. Ignore their crocodile tears about “race cards” and “unfair labelling”. If they freely choose to support anti-minority platforms and individual, make them wear that support openly, with their names signed to it–a signature that will brand them globally and eternally.

This is 2010. Don’t wait for elected officials to lead the fight against hate.

–Cobra

Cobra:

I haven’t pledged my allegiance to anyone. The facts are that Maddow is lying here. The New York Times agrees (as evidenced by the link I quoted above). All of your posturing about this being a race issue is pathetic and it only proves your inability to confront the facts (as set forth by the New York Times) directly.

Maddow is a scandal monger, but since she is one scumming the depths for “our side” she is beloved by many low thought “tribal” Dems.

Look at how she goes on weeklong rants anytime there is ANY kind of Repub involved with ANYTHING semi – public and sexual. It was a disgrace when idiots like matthews and russert (sorry, Im sorry he’s gone – he was always friendly to me – but I still think he was a terrible fool) did this to Clinton and its a disgrace when Maddow (always with my ol pal Anna Miarie Cox there to double down on the sexual innuendo and snide dirty remarks. These two spread the phrase “tea baggers” far and wide – to our sides embarrassment and disgrace)

Ugh. I suggest people go to http://www.dailyhowler.com and read the always incomparable Bob Somerby’s comments about how Maddow is playing her audience for fools.

As a person – Im sure I would love Rachel and though we’vbe never met – I was central in getting Liz Winstead fired at Air America which gave Maddow her own show and big break…so I did once have high hopes for this woman…and when she plays it straight on the ISSUES she can be very, very good -

but the way her show 9 out of 10 times goes for the easy and lowest tribal kind of attacks….she has been much more than a disappointment to me….I see her as simply a mirror of Rush, Hannity etc…and as a experienced lifelong Dem campaign hack – I know that using disparaging and distasteful and extreme terms like “teabaggers” LOSES us the support and votes of independent voters and so I think having her on air in such a high profile spot – cmay be more of a drag on Democrats than a advantage.

Finch,

Have you even READ the Times article you link to?

“But I am satisfied that The Times was wrong on this point, and I have been wrong in defending the paper’s phrasing. Editors say they are considering a correction….

The report by Harshbarger and Crafts was not covered by The Times. It should have been, but the Acorn/O’Keefe story became something of an orphan at the paper. At least 14 reporters, reporting to different sets of editors, have touched it since last fall. Nobody owns it. Bill Keller, the executive editor, said that, “sensing the story would not go away and would be part of a larger narrative,” the paper should have assigned one reporter to be responsible for it.’

The New York Times admits it BLEW THIS STORY. It’s right there, in black and white, from the very article you cite.

Finch, you go right on ahead and support anti-minority White Conservative activists like James O’Keefe. I’ll be here to call you out on it, and encourage minorities and socially conscious Whites to pick up camcorders and retaliate in the same damned fashion.

–Cobra

When you knowingly distort the facts, hide relevant information, selectively report based on ideology, and launch character attacks as often as Rachel Maddow does, you have left the realm of journalism and even punditry, and have permanently taken up residence in the land known as Propaganda. Maddow has plenty of company, especially given the media corruption nowadays, but she should stop and think about the long term impact on her reputation and credibility. If she hopes to be taken seriously by people who aren’t far left ideologues and actually have some influence independents and centrists — who control our political future — she needs to build her monologues on facts instead of deliberate misrepresentation.

expoliticalhack:

Just a question…

Which televised news program, current or cancelled, do you see as an example to follow?

–Cobra

Cobra:

Yes, I’ve read the whole article. You obviously haven’t. The Times was wrong on one point: O’Keffe did not wear a pimp outfit into the ACORN offices. But, as the article goes on to say, that one detail doesn’t absolve ACORN of guilt. O’Keefe still very clearly presented himself as a pimp who was going to smuggle underaged girls into the country to set up brothels. In most (by far) of the ACORN offices, they enthusiastically offered help. The public editor also critiques the Times for not taking the story seriously enough by not reporting on it originally, and then not dedicating a person to follow it. IT DOES NOT ABSOLVE ACORN OF WRONGDOING AND IT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS MADDOW’S CLAIM THAT THE SCANDAL WAS “DEBUNKED.”

Yes, Cobra, I read it. And anyone who reads it will agree that it supports my argument, I described it accurately, and Maddow is a liar.

Finch,

You still don’t get it. The Times admitted it was wrong multiple times in the course of this story.

But that’s not the bottom line here. You’ve clearly demonstrated on both this thread and others who and what you stand for. You’re well within your rights to support anti-minority right winged White activists who seek to destroy programs designed to help poor people, particularly those of color.

I’m well within my rights to call you out on it.

See how simple this is?

–Cobra

You don’t get it. What they were wrong about was (1) not covering it from the beginning; and, (2) that he was wearing a pimp outfit. They were right that he repeatedly posed as a pimp who was trying to set up a brothel of underaged girls that were being sold into sexual bondage from other countries, and that ACRON repeatedly was willing to help (except for two offices). The fact that they were wrong about one incidental detail does not exonerate ACORN. The fact that you will continue to defend ACRON is pathetic.

And, again, all that I’m supporting is the truth. The fact that ACORN PURPORTS to help poor people does not insulate them from all criticism for wrongdoing. The Catholic church also helps a lot of poor people around the world (far more than ACORN does) that mean they are above criticism for the pedophilia scandal? Of course not.

You can’t win on the merits, so instead you simply hurl raced-based invectives. That’s shameful.

Poor Cobra admits, POCs can’t make it without the kindness of strangers. Here is a secret Cobra you can share: stay in school, don’t commit crimes and ya will be successful. These are secrets that Whites have hidden from you for untold years!

Bill Adlkins: O’Keefe has been charged with a misdemeanor, hardly the federal criminal that you portray him to be, but you are a lib, and lies are 2nd nature to you.

Liberal hate:

“A few years ago, he (Obama) would be serving us coffee.” — Bill Clinton

” He (Obama) doesn’t sound like a Ne–o unless he wants to.” Senator Harry Reid

“He ( Obama) couldn’t sell watermelons to….” Dan Rather

DEMOCRAT: Gealdine Ferraro
QUOTE: “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.” [To the Torrance Daily Breeze in March 2008]

DEMOCRAT: Rod Blagojevich
QUOTE: “This guy, he was catapulted in on hope and change, what we hope the guy is. What the fuck? Everything he’s saying’s on the teleprompter. I’m blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little laundromat in a black community not far from where we lived. I saw it all growing up.” [To Esquire in their new issue]

KO:

“In short, in Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees. In any other time in our history, this man would have been laughed off the stage as an unqualified and a disaster in the making by the most conservative of conservatives. Instead, the commonwealth of Massachusetts is close to sending this bad joke to the Senate of the United States.”

Tyler, a misdemeanor is a crime – O’Keefe is charged with a federal misdemeanor. And he’s about to plead guilty because “The new charges are contained in a bill of information, which can only be filed with a defendant’s consent and typically signals a plea deal.”

That makes him a federal criminal as stated, but you are a rightwingfringenut and stupid is your primary characteristic.

Bill Adkins:

Yes, it’s a misdemeanor, which makes it as morally reprehensible as jaywalking.

Acorn employees were wrong for trying to assist a shady applicant, Okeefe was wrong for implying he was dressed like a pimp, Fox was wrong helping to perpetuate that myth, and Rachel is wrong for saying the scandal was completely debunked.

Why is everything always so black and white with you ideologues. Obviously everyone acted poorly because they have an axe to grind and you people feed into like lambs to the slaughter.

Most of you people are so blind that you cant even admit that FOX and MSNBC are doing the exact same thing on different sides of the coin.

Oh, try again, AF — sex crimes, thefts, assaults, terroristic threatening — a short list of crimes that can be classified as a misdemeanor — and by your statement all as ‘morally reprehensible as jaywalking.” I think you should use another image as your avatar as you display no legal acumen. Yosemite Sam is likely available.

BFD:
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Acorn employees were wrong for trying to assist a shady applicant, Okeefe was wrong for implying he was dressed like a pimp, Fox was wrong helping to perpetuate that myth, and Rachel is wrong for saying the scandal was completely debunked.
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Agreed; agreed; agreed; agreed.

Bill Adkins:

Is sneaking in to a Senator’s office under false pretenses more or less reprehensible to you than helping someone to set up a brothel with underage girls smuggled into this country against their will?

As far as I’m concerned, send O’Keefe and all the leadership of ACORN to jail. The world will be a better place.

I have found, and I think its pretty fair to say, regardless of the topic, that whatever Rachael Maddow says, the safe bet is to believe the opposite

Yeah, I remember that, BR – turns out the guy carrying what appeared to be a M4 was paid? by a right wing talk show host for that game. Puts a whole new spin on your ‘made up controversy,’ doesn’t it?
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So Bill, does that mean that the clip showed by MSNBC wasnt edited??? Or that it WAS edited and you are just trying to avoid admitting it?

Rachel should air the videos where those Acorn women were advising O’Keefe on how to skirt the law, then point out the parts that were edited. The videos I saw, the women were conversing normally and no skips were evident. If Rachel can point out where editing occurred, that would be much more conclusive than just saying it occurred.

Few people posting on this site are as reasoned or patient as AnonymousFinch. So what does Cobra do? He smears Finch as a supporter of “anti-minority right winged White activists who seek to destroy programs designed to help poor people, particularly those of color.” I guess I missed the post where Finch expressed his dislike of “people of color.” Then again, Cobra seems content to accuse everyone and anyone who disagrees with him of racism, without much concern for their real views. .

I’m a progressive, but I’ve become really disappointed in Maddow. She’s a Rhodes Scholar for God’s sake, but has turned into a complete partisan hack. I’m sure while she was working towards her Ph.D she learned that it would not be valid to conclude that the story was debunked based on one detail being misreported (as well as choosing only to focus on the California case when O’Keefe went to 20 cities or something).

Maddow is not acting much different than Hannity does nowadays. The key difference is that Sean Hannity is very clearly an idiot, while Maddow is clearly very intelligent. That makes her behavior all the more reprehensible.

Finch,

You STILL don’t get it. Nobody who worked for ACORN, featured in the O’Keefe ACORN videos is being charged with ANYTHING.

NOBODY.

Read from the LINK you posted:

“Since the story broke, Acorn’s contributions have dried up, its national staff has been cut by more than three-quarters, services for the poor have been suspended, and chapters have closed or reorganized under other names, even though a district attorney found that Acorn employees in Brooklyn did nothing illegal and a federal judge ruled that Congress acted unconstitutionally in cutting off funding as punishment….

“From the Washington Post, January 4, 2005:

That’s not enough, said H. James Towey, director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. An additional $40 billion in federal money is given out by state governments, he said..”

So….if you and your heroes in the angry White right-winged activist brigades were so upset about ACORN, where are the sting operations to stop the Catholic Church from receiving Faith Based Initiative funding, since as you say yourself they aren’t “above criticism for the pedophilia scandal?”

Tell the “TRUTH” you claim to be so damned interested in, Finch. You and your righted winged Conservative heroes didn’t care about ACORN before the 2008 election of the first Black POTUS. Even worse, there is documented evidence of Republican PRAISE for ACORN in the past.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/13/acorn-mccain-and-gop-used_n_134284.html

You and your right winged allies will fail in your attempt to roll back the clock on minorities in America.

–Cobra

You are bizarrely conflating “not being charged with a crime” with “doing nothing wrong.”

Whether charged with anything or not, the women in those videos appeared to be condoning brothels with underage girls. If the videos were edited and the women weren’t really saying the things they appeared to be saying, let Rachel play the tapes and point out where the editing occurred. Bring in an expert in such matters to go through it frame by frame.

Mr (I assume) Cobra,

To answer your question – what are the TV News programs that I “see as an example to follow”?

Lets see…anything Bill Moyers Journal (or anything Bill Moyers is involved with). None (Zero) of the cable news shows on now or ever on before – with the exception of the old version of (surprisingly) the show “Fox News Watch ” where Jane Hall (Dean of American University’s School of Communications) would often tell the truth about our completely dysfunctional and mostly very dumb national political press corps.

Fox, after a long run and rare window of media honesty that few ever saw, decided that the show was too honest – and Jane and Neal Gabler and Eric Burns were basically, forced off the show, but the truth is that kind of show would NEVER be broadcast by MSNBC. Ever.

No matter what side it is on – MSNBC is by far the most dishonest of the news networks. One of the true horrors of recent times has been that people actually buying the insane conceit that NBC Washington coverage is not only a fair player in the political wars – but actually is “journalism” in any way.

Tim Russert surely was a friendly guy (and very nice to me the few times I chatted with him) – but his new kind of “gotcha” research may be how he is most remembered – but to me and others who understand and remember that the very Republican Jack Welch who selected Russert knew what he was buying when he hired the man. That NBC News skewered Clinton – then Gore and cheerleaded the election of Bush was no surprise when one understands that Russert was giving their fellow Nantucket pal Welch (Russert, Chris Matthews, Dick Gregory, Brian Williams all bought summer places there to be close to Jack Coincidence? Puleeze…).

That their love for Obama began precisely because he was seen as the one force that could take down the loathed Clintons (which Russert, Matthews, NBC and most of the “elite” DC TV guesting news spent many years trying to do ) is beyond question to those that know the history of the our clownish media village .

So my answer is nothing on MSNBC, Fox, or CNN and anything with Bill Moyers and of course, Jon Stewart and the teams at the Daily Show and the Colbert report. These are the only shows that I see to be honest, intelligent and informed. (Im very serious about Stewart and Company) The rest of cable news time clock is just filled up with tribalist Corporatist and celeb and scandal driven run gong shows.

Looking back over the last twelve years since the emergence of the mega -Corp owned cable news networks constant coverage and commentary, we have watched them attain dominance of our entire political media and congressional culture and their coverage of the White House is oftimes hideous and seemingly beyond hope.

Thank the Gods for Moyers, Stewart and Colbert – the three goods shows we’ve been allowed.

Bill Adkins: O’keefe is charged with entering a federal building under false pretenses, a misdemeanor.

How many of these does martin sheen have against him? A ton!

LMAO!

“Thank the Gods for Moyers,…”

Moyers is a Democratic hack.

Bill Adkins: I just saw the new misdemeanor against O’keefe for entering a fed building under false premises. It states that he originally told authorities that he needed to piss but instead he took a crap.

Hide your children! Call the police! The mass misdemeanor is on the loose!

Cobra: “You and your right winged allies will fail in your attempt to roll back the clock on minorities in America.”

What? Roll back the clock? All you have been doing is bitching how horrible this country is to minorities so what clock is there to roll back?

Goodolgil and writer:

This is fascinating. Let’s see how equally you both throw that moral compass of yours around. The biggest complaint posters seem to have here, is that nameless office workers from tax-payer supported ACORN (we’ve never actually heard from them for their account have we?) gave advice on hidden camera to right-winged activists:

AnonymousFinch:
” O’Keefe still very clearly presented himself as a pimp who was going to smuggle underaged girls into the country to set up brothels. In most (by far) of the ACORN offices, they enthusiastically offered help. “

writer:
“Whether charged with anything or not, the women in those videos appeared to be condoning brothels with underage girls.”

ACORN employees weren’t charged with any crimes, because they DID NOT COMMIT ANY. Those temporary employees were guilty of either giving terrible advice, or not being obvious enough if they were playing along with the O’Keefe/Giles “Borat” style comedy skit. There were NO actual child prostitutes or brothels.

BUT…in the cases of Blackwater and DynCorp, two military contractors that receive BILLIONS of US Tax dollars…

“The DynCorp name was tarnished after Bolkovac, assigned to work with a Human Rights team in Sarajevo training local police officers to investigate
human-rights abuses, sent an e-mail to colleagues and UN officials, alleging
that, among other things, that UN staff and some of her fellow officers
patronized houses of prostitution that employed women as young as 13.
Bolkovac was reassigned, demoted and then fired for what DynCorp said were improper expense claims she submitted.”
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11117

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0512270176dec27,0,1632557.story?page=1

“The Nation magazine first reported Tuesday on the affidavits, which are part of a civil lawsuit filed on behalf of several Iraqis against the firm’s founder, Erik Prince, and his employees for its alleged abuses in the country.

Taken together, the affidavits charge Blackwater founder Erik Prince with promoting “a culture of lawlessness” that included routine murderous violence against Iraqis, a wife-swapping sex ring, use of child prostitutes and weapons smuggling in bags of dog food.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/08/informants-accuse-blackwater-founder-murder-crimes/

I’d like to hear you theory as to why these organizations, both of which receive FAR more US Tax dollars in funding in ACORN could ever dream aren’t getting as much media attention, or outrage from conservatives when REAL child prostitution is involved?

–Cobra

Al Gore, Call Your Office…………… Immediately!!!!!!!!

The Arctic ice cap has expanded by thousands of square miles in the past year.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/arctic_cap_is_growing_dNSZjigQWTUE0TViMeLdXL

Liberal Myth: James O’Keefe did not pretend to be a pimp inside ACORN. Instead, he merely presented himself as Hannah Giles’s boyfriend, trying to help her escape from an abusive pimp.

Fact: James O’Keefe posed as a pimp. He repeatedly told ACORN employees that he was setting up a house where Giles and underage girls would turn tricks, and give the proceeds to O’Keefe, who planned to use them for a future Congressional campaign.

Friedman, Boehlert, and others have glommed on to the fact that O’Keefe did not wear his pimp outfit inside ACORN. Pointing to various ambiguous statements or failures to correct others, they have argued that Breitbart and O’Keefe deliberately tried to suggest otherwise. Friedman and Boehlert have yet to explain how O’Keefe supposedly sought to advance this misdirection by showing himself walking into ACORN in a shirt and slacks — in the first few seconds of the very first video released to the public.

I have challenged Boehlert to say clearly whether O’Keefe ever posed as a pimp at ACORN. The offer stands at $200 simply to take a clear and unequivocal position, one way or another. It would take only 10 words and he could collect $200. Yet he won’t do it. Could it be that, if he admits O’Keefe posed as a pimp, he would no longer be able to insinuate that he didn’t by focusing on O’Keefe’s manner of dress?

http://bigjournalism.com/patterico/2010/03/02/debunking-some-emerging-acorn-liberal-myths/

ACORN had its problems but the video was a total smear job.
http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1888&amp

I hope the next organization that takes ACORNs place will do better and protect itself from political hack jobs.

If anybody who’s dancing on the corpse of ACORN had the courage of their convictions, Catholic Charities and The Boy Scouts would have been federally de-funded weeks ago.

Remind me again, who gets convicted for election fraud?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164760.0;wap2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_New_Hampshire_Senate_election_phone_jamming_scandal

The problem with ACORN is that most of their registration efforts netted eligible Democrats. Have some cahonnies and admit it, and I will, at least, have a little respect for you.

I should add a clarification: In that Catholic Charities and The Boy Scouts (like ACORN formerly) do far more good than harm, I am against de-funding any of them. All such organizations should be viewed through the prism of individual criminality. Including those that would cover-up. If the church and Boy Scouts reported wrongdoing in their own ranks, as ACORN reported fraudulent voter registrations, neither would be in hot water, right now. But, after ACORN, I could see where they might hesitate.

Who cares what Rocky Maddow says!

LOL! – But we all saw what the ACORN people DID & SAID!!!! – What does that have to do with the cover story James gave to them?….Not to mention the NATIONWIDE INDICTMENTS & INVESTIGATIONS OVER ACORN VOTER-FRAUD!!!! LOL – LOL

As for the Global Warming RELIGION…………..LET THEM PROVE IT IN A COURT OF LAW!!!!!

Lately I can’t watch any USA news organizations. So much political bias and pushing their own ideals on the public. I have to youtube Al Jazeera English and Russia Today to find an unbiased story. The only way we can get credible news is by telling the advertisers what we want. So disappointing.

The videos were heavily edited. The sequence of some conversations was changed. Some workers seemed concerned for Giles, one advising her to get legal help. In two cities, Acorn workers called the police. But the most damning words match the transcripts and the audio, and do not seem out of context. Harshbarger’s report to Acorn found no “pattern of illegal conduct” by its employees. But, he told me: “They said what they said. There’s no way to make this look good.”

I can’t figure out what part of “The videos were heavily edited.” etc leads anyone to believe that Maddow is wrong about the videos being heavily edited or anything else she said. And if O’Keefe is charged with a misdemeanor and that’s ok with you, and therefore supposed to be ok with everyone because it doesn’t mean anything… Then by your own logic the ACORN people not getting charged with anything AT ALL are also nothing to worry about, because no charges at all actually mean less than a misdemeanor. They mean no crime was committed at all. Unlike your boy O’Keefe.

But this line– But, he told me: “They said what they said. There’s no way to make this look good.”
Doesn’t mean anything more than just that. You can’t pretty up some ugly words. Nobody can.

I think it’s hilarious that your link to prove your point Finch- proves MY point. You prove yourself wrong with your own link. Hahahahahaaaaa.