Wait. Does not compute!

I thought Gibbs and Obama hate the military and love Wikileaks?

Does this make your little teabagging head explode Republitards?

Take a note , Gibbs . Tell Hillary . Stop giving money to Pakistan . Hillary/Snooki 2012

Gibbs pointed out that, in addition to breaking federal law, the leaked documents pose a real threat to be harmful to both US military and those cooperating with our military efforts, particularly in the region of Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

Since when has that ever stopped libs.

shootfromthehip said:
Does this make your little teabagging head explode Republitards?

No child, it’s Barry’s military now. And libs just want to destroy the country but Barry can’t let them destroy the military on his watch because it will prove what everyone knows about libs.

Robert Gibbs is full of shit. American troops are in danger because a sadistic retard sent them to Iraq and Afghanistan and his successor doesn’t have the good sense or courage to pull them out.

“And libs just want to destroy the country but Barry can’t let them destroy the military on his watch because it will prove what everyone knows about libs.”

Wow. Just wow. Talk about a stretch.

Swing and a miss, “notsofast.”

Snooki watches Wolf Blitzer on CNN each weekday , waiting to see her friend .

shootfromthehip said:
Swing and a miss, “notsofast.”

I don’t think so.

IF “they” would Not Use Classification of information to HIDE their “screw-ups” – “they” MIGHT be more ‘believable!

One last thing on the Sherrod story.

Folks- we might want to rethink our opinion of Sherrod. many of us have said she is indeed a racist based on her comments.

“You know, I haven’t seen such a mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately over this issue of health care. Some of the racism we thought was buried. Didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bush’s and we didn’t do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black President.”

She also accused Fox News of racism, telling Strupp that “they are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to… where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”

“Breitbart wants to take us back to the days of slavery.”

But usually such racist statements do not occur in a vacuum. They usually don’t come out of nowhere.

So I think we should at least listen to see if her husband also speaks of things from a racial prism before we conclude she is a racist.

http://theothermccain.com/2010/07/26/video-shirley-sherrods-husband-says-we-must-stop-the-white-man-and-his-uncle-toms-from-stealing-our-elections/

Oops! She is!

These kinds of situations present a real challenge for the Obama administration, since it is full of appointees who have a long history of expressing anti-American views, and would be the first to publish top secret military information like this if they weren’t working for the government right now. Which probably tells you a lot about how this stuff got leaked in the first place.

“full of appointees who have a long history of expressing anti-American views”

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Conservatives such as “felixw” are FULL OF SHIT AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

There is NO ONE in the Obama administration that has “anti American views.”

Grow the fuck up.

shootfromthehip says:
July 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

And with well reasoned and researched responses like that, why wouldn’t we take your word for it?!

shootfromthehip said:
“full of appointees who have a long history of expressing anti-American views”

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Conservatives such as “felixw” are FULL OF SHIT AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

There is NO ONE in the Obama administration that has “anti American views.”

Grow the fuck up.

Ah, shoot from the hip, you express yourself with your usual eloquence!

I think it’s a little underhanded that they gave the news outlets weeks to cull the information together so they could report on it the day of release, but not the US government. What would have been the harm in that? They still couldn’t have done anything about the release, but could assess the information and make any necessary changes that might protect soldiers, civilians. Assange has taken his mission – and I do like Wikileaks – to a level that seems like vendetta.

notsofast said:
I don’t think so.

Hey, notsofast, how goes it. Been a while (a whole day). Well, let’s get started shall we.

Among our last comments from last night, you said; Oh, and next time- be original- you are so repetitive and dull.

Okay, I’ll take that original challenge. Let’s play a game. You choose five words that I’ve used too much and I will remove them. I will not be saying them in any comment based toward you. Not a one. If you need help, put together my comments and do a word count and use the noun or adjective that I use way too much. I’ll get rid of them. Of course, you have to do the same thing for me. You are not allowed to use the words “Stupid, pathetic, lying, asshole, lib (or liberal)” You certainly overused those so they don’t hold the same weight as they used to.

Okay, I’m so unoriginal, I’m changing. I love a challenge. Now, ball’s in your court. And if you use any of those five words, you lose. Also, I challenge you to find new slams without just going to thesaurus.com. Come on this will be fun.

To the right wingers, I have to put something out here. One of your own, a right winger by the name of notsofast has been quoted on a previous thread saying:

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

Now, no matter what context you want to put that it, that is the most racist statement that I’ve seen so far on a message board (for the record, I don’t go to NAACP or Neo Nazi websites, so there are plenty more)

To the right wing on this site, you should not condone this behavior. I’ve been told that I was a racist on this site because I didn’t lash out against the NAACP audience for cheering the hurting the white farmer in the Sherrod tape. Therefore, right wing in this message board, since you haven’t spoken out against notsofast, then you will be called a racist as well since you except a quote like:

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

This statement is detestable, right or left. It condones one of the most disgusting practices that occurred in American history. Whether joke or not, it’s a quite horrific statement. Now, notsofast did go on to say “This was a bad week for Negroes no matter how you look at it.” which led one commenter (The Real John T) to say: “Why don’t you just use the word ‘n-word’ like you’re dying to do, you racist scum.” He didn’t say the n-word, but the actual word, I’m not going to use it to take away from I’m trying to say here. This led notsofast to then reply, “That’s the word used by libs not conservatives. Thanks for showing your racism, johnt!” Johnt’s statement wasn’t racist, it was an attack unleashed at notsofast. Taken in context (for the record to respond to johnt, notsofast chose not to include the entire quote in his response, just “Why don’t you just use the word ‘n-word’” so as to take it out of context. But in or out of context, it doesn’t come anywhere near:

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

So, I’m keeping this quote in my back pocket, and I think you should do the smart thing and distant yourself from harmful racist such as notsofast. It hurts your message. And you can never call me a racist again, but when you do, I’ll throw out this quote:

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

Which you never separated yourself from. Anyway, sorry for putting this on this thread. I know it doesn’t follow the story, but then, I saw that racism got brought up again here, (by notsofast interestingly enough, someone who said: I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!). Just wanted to bring it up.

Permatiltx said:
So, I’m keeping this quote in my back pocket

Be careful which pocket you keep it in .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

How is that racist?

notsofast said:
I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

How is that racist?

Did you really just ask that? Really? Did you understand the slavery thing? Was that new to you? Oh, I see, because you made it ass black, I get what you did there. Clever. Very clever. So, slavery is okay if you can whip libs, right?

notsofast said:
I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

How is that racist?

By the way, I forgot to type the clever, very clever in my sarcastic font. Yes, it’s a racist phrase, and if you can’t figure out why it is, well, let’s go into explanation. Slavery was wrong, slavery in any form was initially a great crime that America perpetuated. Not only did you make light of it in a detestable way (the whole whipping, again, a detestable act) you put in the lib ass black, again, relating to race. And due to the fact that you did have to ask how is that racist makes me wonder two things about you. One, you were baiting, hoping someone would call you out on it, saying, Oh, look I said I would turn him black, I didn’t say I would whip a black man, or two, you don’t know anything about American History. Either way, it’s a racist comment. If you want, here, I’ll do this, you belittle an entire group of people who were given one of the worst crimes committed upon them to make a tasteless joke. Racist. Racist. Racist. Racist. And the right here should distance themselves from such a detestable comment.

I still stand behind that.

And what about our game?

Permatiltx said:
Permatiltx says:
July 26, 2010 at 6:56 pm Permatiltx(Quote)

BTW, you sound like a 14 year old girl talking out at school

Why didn’t ya give the context for that statement?

A poster had said that FOX was” trying to take us back to slavery.”

Of course you accepted that without challenge.

Then some one criticized me for my criticism of the poster.

And given the ludicrous suggestion that FOX wanted to take us back to slavery, I said, “I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

Now if you want to say that was malicious statement, OK- I’m guilty.

Now, if I had said “I” wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib black ass!”

Now that would be different, wouldn’t it?

But how was that racist? Did ya know the guy I talked to? Was he black?

Prove it.

And what I’m so glad you did was defend the realjohnt- wow- you sure know how to pick your friends well.

Permatiltx said:
To the right wingers,

Sorry, but is that another part of your prevarication? ( I didn’t say lie!)

You implied you were a disinterested commentator, yet you call people “right-wingers.”

Me thinks you protest too much.

“Oh, I see, because you made it ass black, I get what you did there. Clever. Very clever. ”

No. no, no- that wasn’t clever, that’s what I said.

Permatiltx said:
es, it’s a racist phrase,

Nope!

Try to be that pity, OK

Perm where in the hell are ya, man??

Permatiltx said:
Racist. Racist. Racist. Racist. And the right here should distance themselves from such a detestable comment.

Fortunately for the rest of us, we don’t have to believe your tedious twisting of my statement to fit your agenda.

I stand by what I said, and you are not, never have been and will never be the arbiter of what constitutes racism.

And yes, there are some lib asses I would like to whip and I bet some of their asses would turn red or black -that’s because that’s how the body reacts to whipping; not racism.

Unfortunately for you, that has nothing to do with racism- but keep trying to promote that! That’s what libs like to do.

notsofast said:
BTW, you sound like a 14 year old girl talking out at school

I sound like a 14 year old girl talking out at school? That’s, um, well, not a good comeback. I’ll get to that one later. Let’s continue down the rest of this. Learning some fascinating things here.

notsofast</strongWhy didn’t ya give the context for that statement?

A poster had said that FOX was” trying to take us back to slavery.”

Of course you accepted that without challenge.

Then some one criticized me for my criticism of the poster.

And given the ludicrous suggestion that FOX wanted to take us back to slavery, I said, “I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

Now if you want to say that was malicious statement, OK- I’m guilty.

What does the context matter with this statement. Are you saying that I should’ve lashed out against the poster? Well, it ain’t about him, it’s about you. And in this context the statement is actually worst when it’s taken in context. See, you defended FOX by throwing out a racially insensitive statement. Yes, by having the statement within the context of slavery, it expands on the insensitivity of the statement. Now, it’s not about wishing you could hit this guy, it becomes about the act itself, the deplorable act of slavery and whipping. You see, in the context, it’s worst. It’s condoning the act of slavery. You may not mean to, but within the context of your discussion of slavery, it condones. Now, imagine you were having a discussion about the holocaust, and then you say, “I wish I could throw you into an oven.” See, it’s worst in the context. But of course, by your feelings, that last statement would be okay.

notsofastNow, if I had said “I” wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib black ass!”

Now that would be different, wouldn’t it?

I find this to be the most fascinating statement. Were you hoping that he would attack back by calling you a racist, and you set a trap. But I was the one that walked into the trap? See, it seems you’ve been sitting on this for a bit, because this is the most alive I’ve seen you during our interactions. Perhaps it was a plan? See, this is where analysis comes into play. It’s more of a whole picture context. You have spent the time avoiding me, but wait, you had this ready to go. And now, bam, you are spitting out stuff from your mouth (fingers, you are typing this and not saying it unless you talk while you type, which is a possibility) that we haven’t seen yet. I’ll get more into detail on this later.

notsofastBut how was that racist? Did ya know the guy I talked to? Was he black?

Prove it./blockquote>

See, it has nothing to do with the other guy right now, it’s the statement that was racist, not the statement to the guy. Now, you’ve gotten into interesting territory here. You still aren’t seeing the condoning of slavery, or the insensitive feelings you place on the millions who died due to the actions. It’s bigger picture. The race of the commenter doesn’t matter in this case. I know you hope he’s white, if he’s black, well, then it’s a worst statement. But again, I’m not bringing the race of the guy (or girl, could be that too) into this game. The statement stands well on its own.

notsofastAnd what I’m so glad you did was defend the realjohnt- wow- you sure know how to pick your friends well.

Not really defending johnt on this. The point of the comment was more for comparison sake. Perhaps it appeared that I was defending him, but these are all about you. No one else. We’re dissecting you right now. Eventually, we’ll get to johnt if he decides to attack me with little to no basis.

notsofast said:
Sorry, but is that another part of your prevarication? ( I didn’t say lie!)

So is the game on then? Not sure how the right wingers thing is a lie (sorry, prevarication).

notsofastYou implied you were a disinterested commentator, yet you call people “right-wingers.”

Me thinks you protest too much.

Well, I never said I’m a disinterested commentator (clearly I am), I said I think ideology is wrong. However, I’m not naive enough to believe it doesn’t exist. I said I’m neither right or left, but that doesn’t mean that I think FOX and MSNBC are on too different sides of the spectrum. Why is right winger a bad word? I was speaking out to supporters, the idea of having the racist, vile element within their side, who they have their ideals and beliefs and having them undone. Now, perhaps I could’ve used a different word. I guess right winger is bad. And if I offended anyone, I’m sorry. Put alas, not a lie,(prevarication) and nor is it a lie (prevarication, I’m still allowed to say lie, though) for you to call it a lie. It’s a misrepresentation. Clearly, you are blinded with your own hatred and your own esteem issues that you’ve missed the bigger picture. It happens.

notsofast“Oh, I see, because you made it ass black, I get what you did there. Clever. Very clever. ”

No. no, no- that wasn’t clever, that’s what I said.

See, here’s the thing. You chose the word black for a reason. Later on, we’ll get more into details on why you chose that word. Again, it was a set up, I believe. And you did choose the phrasing carefully. I don’t think you’re stupid, I think you have the inability to argue, to remove hate so that you can have open debate about the issues, and attack people because you don’t have the self esteem to truly stand behind your statements.

notsofast said:
Nope!

Try to be that pity, OK

What?

notsofast said:
Perm where in the hell are ya, man??

Sorry, got busy. Legitimately busy. I am working on a career here, so things will come up. Sorry about that.

notsofast said:
Fortunately for the rest of us, we don’t have to believe your tedious twisting of my statement to fit your agenda.

First, who is us? The entire message board except for me? Well, I have a feeling that some on here may side with me on this. And I’m not twisting, I’m analyzing. See, you see the world in black and white. Numbers equal numbers. There is either/or. But once you start diving deeper, dissecting (great alliteration), then we start to see that there are nothing but shades of grey.

notsofastI stand by what I said, and you are not, never have been and will never be the arbiter of what constitutes racism.

Now, see, here is the classic move of someone arguing who is feeling the pressure. Someone who may want to hide a fact, or doesn’t believe what he wrote, or definitely a self esteem issue. You attacked my authority on the subject. Of course, I’ve set up what I believe, and beliefs are very important, and people can read into what they will. I strongly recommend against what you said. I (that’s me, not everyone on the planet) believe it’s racist. I believe it’s racist not as a arbiter of what constitutes racism, but as a human being. (I’ve said this phrase quite a bit, maybe I’ll make it two of the five words). And if someone reads it as a human being, they might see that what you said was a racist statement. Again, for those out there who thought I was the arbiter of what constitutes racism, I’m not. Neither is notsofast, or anyone else that shoots out that a phrase or person is racist. Again, dealing with absolutes, a favorite of notsofast.

notsofastAnd yes, there are some lib asses I would like to whip and I bet some of their asses would turn red or black -that’s because that’s how the body reacts to whipping; not racism.

Unfortunately for you, that has nothing to do with racism- but keep trying to promote that! That’s what libs like to do.

The phrase is whip your ass red or whip your ass black and blue. Yet you chose black. Just black. Why? Whipping someone’s ass black is not a phrase I’m familiar with and possibly not others on this site as well. Again, you chose that word deliberately. Either as a racist statement, or as a trap. Either way, you chose that word for a reason, because it is different. Why would you say black and not red or black and blue during a discussion on slavery or race. See? Analysis gets deeper.

Now, it’s not unfortunate for me at all. I don’t know how it would be. Perhaps by you not being racist, my power is taken away from me, and I must go back to my cave, and eat the souls of children to regain my power. That would be unfortunate for me. (The cave and soul eating is not true, neither is the unfortunate for me). Fortunate for me actually if true, because it means one less racist in the world. And we could all be fortunate for that. It stinks I’ve spent the time on just you, because you really could see that my views aren’t con or lib. Yes, in my heart, my thoughts would lean toward the lib market. But again, I’m more than that. And that’s the thing you end up failing to see. Unfortunately for you.

Whoops, someone forgot a blockquote tag. (That would be me)

Perm, you are an epic failure- try again you pretentious charlatan.

I have proved you are a hypocritical lying lib, so accept it.

You and your lib friends have taken a perfectly good derogatory word- racist- and transformed it into a a very acceptable proud patriotic word- racist- one who disagrees with Obama policies.

So save your selective and sanctimonious outrage for someone who gives a damn about the semantic games you play.

BTW, you are really bad at this. And agreeing to not use certain words? LOL How puerile and sophomoric of you. Are you 10? You are indeed a child- I must have really hit a nerve.

Oh, and continue to call people racists- that’s all you bibs have left.

And learn the meaning of the words “pithy” and “succinct.” You are the most mundane and soporific batherskite on Mediaite.

notsofast said:
Perm, you are an epic failure- try again you pretentious charlatan.

I have proved you are a hypocritical lying lib, so accept it.

You and your lib friends have taken a perfectly good derogatory word- racist- and transformed it into a a very acceptable proud patriotic word- racist- one who disagrees with Obama policies.

So save your selective and sanctimonious outrage for someone who gives a damn about the semantic games you play.

BTW, you are really bad at this. And agreeing to not use certain words? LOL How puerile and sophomoric of you. Are you 10? You are indeed a child- I must have really hit a nerve.

Oh, and continue to call people racists- that’s all you bibs have left.

And learn the meaning of the words “pithy” and “succinct.” You are the most mundane and soporific batherskite on Mediaite.

Fascinating. I’m hitting a nerve. Hmmm.

An epic failure, you say? I don’t know about epic or even failure. Now, let’s see what you said about me being unoriginal and dull. I don’t think that is true at all. My point wasn’t juvenile or puerile, you just called me unoriginal, and I wanted to wade into a game of originality. Essentially, you challenged me. I accepted and returned the challenge. Nothing juvenile about that at all. I’ve also done my best to not call you names, a very juvenile act, something that you are not above.

Now, it seems there are serious esteem issues. You didn’t come alive until I took it outside of just the two of us. I figured that would be what would happen, and you obliged my whims. Thank you. After all, you took our arguments outside of our streams, not once but twice. So, I dipped into your game, and you responded.

I made a mistake, and yes, I owned up to it. Thus, it takes essentially the effect you have by bringing it up. It’s not a usable weapon anymore, but yet, you believe it is. See, you have to take my weapons out. Make them ineffective. Our inability to admit mistakes can in the long run hurt us. Now, imagine if you had said, I made a mistake with that whipping line. Oops. You would’ve taken it out of the equation. If Palin had said that refudiate was a mistake, and she apologized, either typed it too fast, something along those lines, then refudiate would’ve been taken out of the equation. The “chicken” lady in Nevada lost ground because she wouldn’t say her words were a mistake, instead she defended them. Just had to laugh the line off, say she didn’t mean it, and bam, out of the equation.

And we are in a war of words here. Semantics is everything. It’s the glue that holds together the rockets that we launch. It’s the defense shield to put up over our fortresses. Don’t be afraid of semantics. They can help you.

Alas, I, too disagree with some of Obama’s policies. Doesn’t make me a racist. You’re disagreement with Obama’s policies doesn’t make you a racist. I called you a racist for a non-Obama comment. But then, you are so committed to the “Obama no = racist yes” talking point that you completely missed the point. See, you are speaking in generalities here, and not getting down to the meat of the matter. I’m not calling you a racist for political points or to gain argument ground, I’m calling you a racist, because you said something that was racist. Pure and simple.

And really, I know those words. And knowing those words doesn’t mean I’m going to change the direction of what I’m doing here. I do have a purpose. I’ve seen your kind on all sorts of sites. (Not a racist statement). Those whose esteem issues keep them from believing in themselves. Look, I have esteem issues. I think I’m fat. My wife doesn’t, so she wants me to wear clothes that are tight on me or fit better. I prefer to wear the baggy clothes. It hides my body image. Your insults are baggy clothes. It hides something. And eventually I’m going to find out what it is. And I’m not going to stop until I get there. The fact that the racist comment and the attack outside of our argument thread means I’ve found something new. I experimented, and it helped confirm my hypothesis. I’m not going to stop these verbose rants. They are serving a purpose, and you were very close to figuring out a while back, but then you went into hiding, and then lost focus on the reality hidden behind all this. Maybe you’ll figure it out, but I doubt it.

Besides, if I’m so hurt and exposed, why am I smiling as I type this?