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Fox News Chief Roger Ailes: Jon Stewart Is ‘Crazy’ And NPR Executives Are ‘Nazis’

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Part Two of Howard Kurtz‘s interview with Fox News chief Roger Ailes is out today, and based on his frank and candid assessment of Jon Stewart, NPR, and his defense of conservative bias, no one should ever call Mr. Ailes a shrinking violet.

His provocative comments are sure to raise eyebrows, but the enlightening Q & A could just as easily be read as a plain-spoken conversation in which one of the most powerful media figures of the day isn’t afraid to shoot from the hip.

You should definitely check out the must-read interview in all its detailed glory, but there are two big takeaways.

On Jon Stewart, Ailes opines that The Daily Show host is “smart” but that the media-critic/comedian makes a lot of hay out of conservatives. Oh, and he also says:

“He’s crazy. If it wasn’t polarized, he couldn’t make a living. He makes a living by attacking conservatives and stirring up a liberal base against it.”

I tried to interrupt.

“He loves polarization. He depends on it. If liberals and conservatives are all getting along, how good would that show be? It’d be a bomb.”

On NPR executive’s decision to fire Juan Williams:

Then he turned his sights on NPR executives.

“They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don’t want any other point of view. They don’t even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive.”

It’s hardly surprising that Ailes would defend Williams or castigate NPR. But trotting out such Third Reich rhetoric seems, shall we say, disproportionate to the situation. NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher says only that “we will let Mr. Ailes’ words speak for themselves.”

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  • TfT

    Spot on comments by Roger.

    Calls em as he sees em.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    OMG Roger. Here we go again.
    Libtards on this board crapping their pants
    two days in a row! Watch

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Liberals anger feeds support and viewers to FOX NEWS!

  • m

    Does Ailes sound like a fair and balanced guy? Heh. We know the political opinions of Roger Ailes more clearly than Phil Griffin (who John Gibson once said “doesn’t have a political bone in his body”). Fox News is a 24/7 conservative and Republican propaganda machine PERIOD. Roger Ailes is an intellectually dishonest man because he still uses the Orwellian argument that they’re “fair and balanced”. Horseshit.

  • ProgLib

    I think he’s had a bit too much of his own dog food.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I told ya!! It has started!
    lmao

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Oh, and Bristol Palin is in the finals
    of DWTS!

  • pakattak

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    OMG Roger. Here we go again.
    Libtards on this board crapping their pants
    two days in a row! Watch

    I’m actually not. His comments come as no surprise to me.

  • Cecelia

    “His comments are sure to be received by some as evidence of Ailes malevolent character,…”

    Oh, yeah… dissing Jon Stewart, NPR, and saying that the current administration hasn’t been effective and that the president is too much to the left of the American people.

    Words indicative of dastardly thinking…

    (you guys kill me…)

  • Cecelia

    Meanwhile, right above this one, you’ve got a story about a U.S. senator wishing that the FCC would shut down two cable channels.

    How’s THAT for a “malevolent character”?…

  • skyfet

    Look at this fat slob calling people Nazi. This POS was involved with George .H Bush campaign that used the Willy Horton ad, this POS was involved with several crap in his time before fox news and he is calling people crazy and Nazi. Talk about B.S, those terms he should use it on himself, wretched POS.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    ““He’s crazy. If it wasn’t polarized, he couldn’t make a living.”

    Thanks for admitting your network is polarizing, Man With Four Chins, instead of “fair and balanced”.

    We all knew that, but it’s nice to hear your confession.

    This goes well with your confession that Beck attacks Republicans too much.

    FOX NEWS: FAIR AND BALANCED BUT JESUS, TRY TO LAY OFF THE REPUBLICANS, OK?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    ” His comments are sure to be received by some as evidence of Ailes malevolent character”

    Why? Hes not allowed to have an opinion?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    m said:
    Does Ailes sound like a fair and balanced guy? Heh. We know the political opinions of Roger Ailes more clearly than Phil Griffin (who John Gibson once said “doesn’t have a political bone in his body”). Fox News is a 24/7 conservative and Republican propaganda machine PERIOD. Roger Ailes is an intellectually dishonest man because he still uses the Orwellian argument that they’re “fair and balanced”. Horseshit.

    Which would make it the ONLY non-left wing, Democrat propaganda machine, in a sea of left wing Democrat propaganda machines.

  • AngelPeters

    It’s been said by those who have worked with Ailes that he suffers fro paranoia. His interview proves it.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Git R Dun, Rog!

  • The Real Royal King

    Ironic isn’t it? NPR is Nazi-like for firing a man who flagrantly violated his contract, but FOX “News” keeps in its employ an emotionally unstable man who call our President a racist and who seems to be an anti-Semitic Holocaust Denier. Roger once had shame, I suppose, but he must have eaten it with his second helping of mashed potatoes.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Hey King,

    Major Jewish Group Defends Beck Amid Soros Furor

    The national Jewish group Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has come out strongly against Jewish leaders critical of Glenn Beck’s recent George Soros expose, which detailed his actions during the Holocaust, calling such criticism of Beck “painful, troubling and disquieting.”

    “ZOA has expressed its concern over the strong criticism that a number of American Jewish leaders and other prominent Jews in recent days have directed at Fox broadcaster, Glenn Beck, for his criticism of Israel/U.S.-basher, financier George Soros, regarding his behavior in Nazi-occupied Budapest in 1944,” the group says in a statement released Tuesday.

    “A number of American Jewish leaders condemned Mr. Beck for these remarks,” ZOA’s statement says, “yet a 1998 interview with Soros conducted by Steve Kroft on ‘60 Minutes’ shows that Beck did not misstate the facts.”

    The group goes on to detail a litany of “anti-Israel, anti-American” remarks made by Soros over the years.*

    Among those who have spoken out against Beck are Elan Steinberg, the vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants; Simon Greer, the director of Jewish Funds for Justice; Jewish writer Michelle Goldberg; and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League.

    It is painful, troubling and disquieting to see Jewish leaders defending any actions by George Soros, someone who has shown himself to be an active antagonist of Israel and the U.S., whom he blames for the world’s troubles,” ZOA National President Morton A. Klein says in the statement.

    “In light of Soros’ hatred of Israel and the United States; his continuous efforts to harm them; the absence of any subsequent remorse and feeling as an adult over the events he witnesses in Nazi-occupied Hungary as a 14-year old; as well as the fact that Glenn Beck’s comments were essentially accurate, George Soros merits no defense or sympathy from Jewish leaders,” he adds.

    “We are truly puzzled that some Jewish leaders have chosen to defend this and other Israel-bashers from their critics.”

  • Hugo Daun

    What a horrible choice for the picture that accompanies this piece!

    They should have used one that includes Princess Leia in her slave bikini…

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Hey King,

    Major Jewish Group Defends Beck Amid Soros Furor

    The national Jewish group Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has come out strongly against Jewish leaders critical of Glenn Beck’s recent George Soros expose, which detailed his actions during the Holocaust, calling such criticism of Beck “painful, troubling and disquieting.”

    “ZOA has expressed its concern over the strong criticism that a number of American Jewish leaders and other prominent Jews in recent days have directed at Fox broadcaster, Glenn Beck, for his criticism of Israel/U.S.-basher, financier George Soros, regarding his behavior in Nazi-occupied Budapest in 1944,” the group says in a statement released Tuesday.

    “A number of American Jewish leaders condemned Mr. Beck for these remarks,” ZOA’s statement says, “yet a 1998 interview with Soros conducted by Steve Kroft on ‘60 Minutes’ shows that Beck did not misstate the facts.”

    The group goes on to detail a litany of “anti-Israel, anti-American” remarks made by Soros over the years.*

    Among those who have spoken out against Beck are Elan Steinberg, the vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants; Simon Greer, the director of Jewish Funds for Justice; Jewish writer Michelle Goldberg; and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League.

    It is painful, troubling and disquieting to see Jewish leaders defending any actions by George Soros, someone who has shown himself to be an active antagonist of Israel and the U.S., whom he blames for the world’s troubles,” ZOA National President Morton A. Klein says in the statement.

    “In light of Soros’ hatred of Israel and the United States; his continuous efforts to harm them; the absence of any subsequent remorse and feeling as an adult over the events he witnesses in Nazi-occupied Hungary as a 14-year old; as well as the fact that Glenn Beck’s comments were essentially accurate, George Soros merits no defense or sympathy from Jewish leaders,” he adds.

    “We are truly puzzled that some Jewish leaders have chosen to defend this and other Israel-bashers from their critics.”

    Great copy and paste, Michelle-in-Utah. No one does it better. Of course, a bit intellectually dishonest to omit the ADL statement and to also neglect to make the tie between the ZOA-Wrong Way Kristol and Gary Bow-Wower-FOX “News”-Beckerhead, but, I mean, honestly, why be honest if it doesn’t advance your agenda?

  • Oregon Conservative

    Soros has espoused anti-Israel on numerous occasions. Is he an anti-Semite? Hard to say. Is he a self loathing Jew? Absolutely.

    Got a problem with that King? Before you answer, I was born from the loins of a Jewish mother.

    The Jewish “groups” going after Beck are more political than they are about advocacy. Not a whole lot different than the labor unions of the 21st century. Their names and or missions often misrepresent their ultimate objective.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    King, I’m SHOCKED you choose to ignore what I posted.

  • skyfet

    @Oregon Conservative
    Born from the loines of a Jewish mother! so?
    So was Howard Stein, Larry Davis etc. doesn’t make you any special to speak about Jewish issue nor makes you an expert on Nazis.

  • right-is-wrong

    Hugo Daun said:
    What a horrible choice for the picture that accompanies this piece!

    They should have used one that includes Princess Leia in her slave bikini…

    Hilarious.

    Does getting it show your age?

  • Greg

    Obscene statements… Ailes is less fit to sell pushcart hotdogs than Ignatius J. Reilly…

  • The Lantern of Truth

    I am King . The evil Ailes is responsible for the vile , evil and live Sarah O’ Palin , who did not go to Harvard . How dare she start from nothing and work her way up to where she is today !

  • Dave Richards

    Ya gotta love it when a CEO of a major corporation comes ot and speaks his mind while pissing off the liberals at the same time.

    Oh, he used the “Nazi” word? I guess that makes up for the 8 years the bed wetting liberals were calling Bush everything but a child of God.

  • Dave Richards

    Cecelia said:
    Meanwhile, right above this one, you’ve got a story about a U.S. senator wishing that the FCC would shut down two cable channels. How’s THAT for a “malevolent character”?…

    Ouch! That’s gonna hurt.

  • Hugo Daun

    right-is-wrong said:
    Does getting it show your age?

    Not so much as it reveals a degree of nerdiness…and also that you are not among the many humor-challenged dummies who frequent this place.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The Real Royal King said:
    Great copy and paste, Michelle-in-Utah. No one does it better. Of course, a bit intellectually dishonest to omit the ADL statement and to also neglect to make the tie between the ZOA-Wrong Way Kristol and Gary Bow-Wower-FOX “News”-Beckerhead, but, I mean, honestly, why be honest if it doesn’t advance your agenda?

    What? Do you ever write anything that makes sense to anyone but you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    The Real Royal King said:
    Ironic isn’t it? NPR is Nazi-like for firing a man who flagrantly violated his contract, but FOX “News” keeps in its employ an emotionally unstable man who call our President a racist and who seems to be an anti-Semitic Holocaust Denier.

    I know he called Bush a racist, but that was a long time ago. And, yeah, he’s emotionally unstable and an anti-Semite, and also a sexist hog. But, Olbermann works at Fox News?

  • pakattak

    Dave Richards said:
    Ya gotta love it when a CEO of a major corporation comes ot and speaks his mind while pissing off the liberals at the same time.

    Oh, he used the “Nazi” word? I guess that makes up for the 8 years the bed wetting liberals were calling Bush everything but a child of God.

    Don’t bunch me in with that idiotic blanket statement. I never thought Bush was anything like Hitler or a Nazi.

    I’m a proud American liberal, but Bush was our President, so I supported his place as our leader by not insulting his character or intentions, even though I vehemently disagreed with his policies.

  • valkyrie101

    Gotta love Ailes for being honest. He’s a big time right winger and runs a big time right wing media enterprise. He doesn’t like media that is to the left and considers them to be crazy nazis. OK.

  • Sidhekitten

    *Banging head on keyboard*

    Wow, what do you say to that, someone jumped the Shark big time here and I would dare to say Roger is in the salsa. I would have taken a different tact than he did, but I guess when you are the running Fox news, you to can make that leap, ouch! No one will ever say that Roger is PC, that is for damn sure. Think happy thoughts about freedom of speech, think happy thoughts about freedom of speech.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    King, I’m SHOCKED you choose to ignore what I posted.

    It states the obvious. Many in Israel and many in the U.S. (rightly) despise Soros. As do many in Thailand, Malaysia, Russia, and the UK. Soros is much like Bin Laden was in Afghanistan, using his vast wealth to feed enough hungry people to continue advancing his agenda. Bin Laden had his agenda, Soros has his. The agendas are actually similar in many ways, fueled by hatred of the U.S. and Israel.

  • Greg

    “The agendas are actually similar in many ways, fueled by hatred of the U.S. and Israel.”- Andy Lamb

    Holy crap that is insanity…

    Hedge funds and currency traders are the high flyers of the global financial apparatus dominated by the United States. Traders raise capital, buy into positions based on educated understanding of currency fundamentals and often battle against government policy makers who try to intervene in markets to artificially control value… It is a legal and deeply capitalist enterprise that has greatly benefited the West in general and the US in particular.

    Bin Laden is a religious zealot who uses bombs and guns to enact isolated acts of violence against unsuspecting targets wherever the sane might rightly oppose his brand of zealotry.

    The only reason Soros is a target of the the smears, slander and falsehood is that FOX has commodified fact challenged hyperbole. As the old and isolated sit and smolder in front of their televisions all day, they get deep satisfaction from hearing their fears validated. The sloppy and biased framing of events provides a distorted lens through which to view our democracy, but a great place to see ads for scooter’s, powerlifts and overpriced collector coins.

  • bealzebubba

    TfT said:
    Spot on comments by Roger.

    Calls em as he sees em.

    He’s just spouting another opinion..blowing steam…using the Nazi term as punchline…jumping back on the very bandwagon that he created.

    Attention Roger Ailes: You can’t be a Nazi and marxist, socialist, communist, liberal.

    A little lesson on the Nazis. The Nazis rejected the ideologies of Marxism, Communism and social democracy. The regarded democracy, communism and liberalism as failed ideals (all were considered Jewish ideologies) and even further, they persecuted members of the SOCIAL Democrat and Communist parties . Ultimately, Nazis considered economic systems of..inequality, for lack of better term… as NATURAL and beneficial to the system. Kind of like what we have going on here in the US: economic inequality.

    Left wing Nazis? Sure they existed but were removed in 1934 for their highly SOCIALISTIC ideas….look up what was referred to as the “Night of the long knives”. National Socialism? In name only….Hitler later regretted attaching the word to his party name.

  • CosmosDan

    I’m sure Jon S would rather that the media worked to inform people and use the corruption, non corruption format he’s suggested several times. I seriously doubt a lack of polarization in the media would mean he wouldn’t have material. He’d still have the politicians themselves.
    Maybe the more important point of that discussion is what role the media, and those who claim to be news, should play in our society. Maybe fact based informing would be a good idea.

    And calling NPR Nazi’s for firing Williams. He ‘s been watching too much Beck.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    King, I’m SHOCKED you choose to ignore what I posted.

    Nitwit. I commented on what you posted.

  • Sidhekitten

    CosmosDan said:
    And calling NPR Nazi’s for firing Williams. He ’s been watching too much Beck.

    NPR Nazi’s, not so much. NPR tone deaf and lacking in business savvy absolutely. I used to listen to them because I felt they present a valid point of view. But the firing of Mr. Williams for comments he made about his feelings as a commentator crossed a personal line. They have stated that they are fair, and have fallen dreadfully short. Since I can’t pull my taxes from them, I can pull my listener-ship and voluntary contributions. That is the marketplace.

    BTW, I hope MSNBC gets the business model fast, Comcast has no sense of humor when it comes to losses. Attention to Keith, Rachel, and big Ed, they will drop kick you like a bad habit and not think twice.

  • MiddleRoader

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Major Jewish Group Defends Beck Amid Soros Furor

    Did you forget to take your smart pills again? How could this be shocking news?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Greg said:
    Holy crap that is insanity…

    Greg, I’m sure you already realize that my Soros/Bin Laden analogy did not intend to portray Soros as someone who wants to “use bombs and guns to enact isolated acts of violence against unsuspecting targets.” It simply points out the similarities between the men, the use of personal wealth to advance an agenda, and the fact that the agenda is fueled by disdain for the U.S. and Israel. No outside party had to convince me of that, Soros’ own words and actions did the trick.

    As far as ads for scooters, powerlifts and collector coins are concerned, if you watch other cable news programs, network TV dramas, reality shows, sitcoms, sporting events, or cartoons, you’ll see the same thing, advertisers pay money to run commercials. They hope to sell more products that way.

  • Thelonious Funk

    Obama is a socialist, Stewart is crazy, and NPR is run by Nazi’s.

    Fair and balanced.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Sounds like somebody is a tad perturbed by Mr. Stewart’s constant exposition of his network. Keep up the good work Jon. And if only Stewart knew that he’d be nothing without Fox News.
    “That’s Glenn Beck. You know what I call him? My children’s college fund!”
    -Jon Stewart on “Oprah”
    Sorry, Ailes, Stewart beat ya to it.

  • MiddleRoader

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    That’s Glenn Beck. You know what I call him? My children’s college fund

    I call him…Big wad in my pocket. As in his pocket.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Greg said:
    The only reason Soros is a target of the the smears, slander and falsehood is that FOX has commodified fact challenged hyperbole. As the old and isolated sit and smolder in front of their televisions all day, they get deep satisfaction from hearing their fears validated. The sloppy and biased framing of events provides a distorted lens through which to view our democracy, but a great place to see ads for scooter’s, powerlifts and overpriced collector coins.

    Nice.

  • stoogedudes

    Hey, Ailes,

    Stewart starting to get to ya, huh? Good for him!

    Oh, and you lose the conversation when you start comparing anyone to Nazis.

    Dave Richards said:
    Ya gotta love it when a CEO of a major corporation comes ot and speaks his mind while pissing off the liberals at the same time. Oh, he used the “Nazi” word? I guess that makes up for the 8 years the bed wetting liberals were calling Bush everything but a child of God.

    Oh, because some liberals called Bush a Nazi, it makes it okay for Roger Ailes to use it on someone he politically disagrees with. Gotcha.

  • Alz

    Good for Ailes. What’s nice is all of this information is finally getting out. The Left has spent a huge amount of resources for many, many decades trying to hide their true beliefs.

    Little by little the news is coming out.

  • Alz

    Thelonious Funk said:
    Obama is a socialist, Stewart is crazy, and NPR is run by Nazi’s.

    Fair and balanced.

    The only thing I disagree with is that Stewart is crazy. He’s just wrong, not crazy.

  • Oregon Conservative

    skyfet said:
    @Oregon ConservativeBorn from the loines of a Jewish mother! so?So was Howard Stein, Larry Davis etc. doesn’t make you any special to speak about Jewish issue nor makes you an expert on Nazis.

    My point was to illustrate that growing up in Jewish family, I was exposed to some of these so-called advocacy groups. I contend their support of Soros and derision of Beck is more politically motivated.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Alz said:
    The only thing I disagree with is that Stewart is crazy. He’s just wrong, not crazy.

    Fox has yet to prove him wrong, but he sure has proven Fox as liars.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
    “A number of American Jewish leaders condemned Mr. Beck for these remarks,” ZOA’s statement says, “yet a 1998 interview with Soros conducted by Steve Kroft on ‘60 Minutes’ shows that Beck did not misstate the facts.”

    ZOA has their heads up their collective rumps. I’ve read the transcript from Soros’ 60 Minutes interview. He never claimed that he helped send Jews off to death camps. Beck lied about that, a horrific lie.

    Damn, Palin Wanna-be, you are one gullible plebe.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/glenn-becks-horrific-lie.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    The Roger Ailes/Rupert Murdoch smear machine = Fox.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201011170024

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carla-Reilly-Bond/1551318689 Carla Reilly Bond

    “Straight from the heart”? Seriously? What heart?

  • Greg

    Andy Lamb said:
    Greg, I’m sure you already realize that my Soros/Bin Laden analogy did not intend to portray Soros as someone who wants to “use bombs and guns to enact isolated acts of violence against unsuspecting targets.” It simply points out the similarities between the men, the use of personal wealth to advance an agenda, and the fact that the agenda is fueled by disdain for the U.S. and Israel. No outside party had to convince me of that, Soros’ own words and actions did the trick.

    As far as ads for scooters, powerlifts and collector coins are concerned, if you watch other cable news programs, network TV dramas, reality shows, sitcoms, sporting events, or cartoons, you’ll see the same thing, advertisers pay money to run commercials. They hope to sell more products that way.

    Andy,
    I am sure that you realize that by making the distinction you failed to make, I was proving that your analogy was crap. For an argument by analogy to have any heft the similarities must be greater than the differences. The perspective, intent and the methods of the two figures you cited are dissimilar enough to make your conflation of the two useless. Simply put, opposition to elements of Israeli policy is wildly dissimilar to blood lust and murder. Bin Laden is hated for organizing a cabal of mad assassins while Soros is hated for using markets to oppose central planners… then again because he uses his financial gains to advance progressivism. Though you might dislike the progressive agenda your reckless analogy is beyond broken.

    Regarding your summary of the role in advertising in televised media… sigh… yes you understand the fundamentals… what you missed was the connection between demographics and content… if ESPN merged with Penthouse publishing it would be distorting content to an arguably harmful degree that might still take advantage of the fundamentals you comprehend while violating ethical expectations that most of us hold dear.

  • justanotherconservative

    i agree. now watch them run for cover.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Carla Reilly Bond says:

    “’Straight from the heart’? Seriously? What heart?”

    That’s what conservatives call the black hole in the middle of their chests. When compassionate people claim that conservatives “suck,” they’re referring to that black hole.

  • tstev

    Roger Ailes, you should be ashamed of yourself for approving Fox News usage of Protocol of Elder Zion as protocol for Fox news programming. Your record is getting more and more tainted and if Fox is acquiring more audience with these type of rants, be sure that you are breeding American Fascism.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Following is a thought that every American Citizen should try to understand, but News Corp, Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh and Big Business in general hope to hell that no one, I repeat no, one below a million dollar a year income every understands.
    Communist China, because of seeing the Capitalistic workings in Hong Cong before it was turned over to the Chinese Government, producing enormous monetary incomes, caused China to fall in love with Capitalism. They did not fall in love with Capitalism enough to convert “Their Government” to a Capitalistic form of government or a Democracy. They only wanted to enjoy the profits of a Capitalist working society whereby large groups of people, electronics and automated machinery produce enormous financial gains for the Communist Leaders to control and enjoy for their entire life. The regular citizens are not as fortunate.
    It’s not hard to understand why Capitalist love doing business with Communist China. They suppress their people and that makes a very profitable playing field for Capitalistic profits. Labor is not only suppressed, for those who oppose the working of society in China, they end up face down in the various rivers.
    Labor of all sorts is not a commodity that you dig out of the ground use and destroy, then toss onto to a spoil pile as China appears to be doing.
    A thrill is identified as enjoying something crazy, explosive, and deadly at a safe distance. This is why some Capitalist enjoys having some of their work done in Communist Nations. They are enjoying the fruits of the labors of others that are paying a terrible price, sometimes even their lives for opposing the workings of unfair labor practices in that country.
    John Maynard Keynes has made it clear, Capitalism cannot survive without inflation. The taxpayer bailout recently saved Capitalism form the excesses of greed profiteering through price inflation at a time when Alan Greenspan should have raised interest rates, bringing our economy to a slowdown instead of a crash, so that we could have had time to convert to solar energy, more efficient autos, new and different products, helping our economy to adjust to the over productivity and under consumption brought about by Capitalist Greed .
    When will Capitalist Leaders understand common labor are Capitalist also, and expect a little more than slave quarters and a trip to the bone yard? If everyone doesn’t profit, eventually no one will profit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Greg said:
    I am sure that you realize that by making the distinction you failed to make, I was proving that your analogy was crap. For an argument by analogy to have any heft the similarities must be greater than the differences.

    Incorrect. An analogy is a comparison between two different things in order to highlight points of similarity. The definition of analogy does not include the requirement that similarities must be greater than differences. If two people are so very similar, there is no need to analogize. There would be no need for analogy if, for example, I was talking about Gary Ridgway and Ted Bundy. Your argument against my analogy is what is crap.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Nearly six hours now. Plenty of Fat insults heaped on Ailes so far.
    But I would bet over half hurling the Fat Insults are themselves
    Lardasses. Especially the women!! That is just lastest stats on US Population!
    Plenty of insults For Fox news as expected, though if I was Griffin
    I would be looking real hard at Aile’s Business Model and copy it!
    No Handicap Children insults yet, But the day is not over.
    Press on or Lean Forward whatever!
    GBR, Glenn Beck said hey!

  • Greg

    Andy Lamb said:
    Incorrect. An analogy is a comparison between two different things in order to highlight points of similarity. The definition of analogy does not include the requirement that similarities must be greater than differences. If two people are so very similar, there is no need to analogize. There would be no need for analogy if, for example, I was talking about Gary Ridgway and Ted Bundy. Your argument against my analogy is what is crap.

    A08.3 Evaluating analogical arguments
    Number : If we discover a lot of shared properties between two objects, and they are all relevant to the conclusion, then the analogical argument is stronger than when we can only identify one or a few shared properties. Suppose we find out that novel X is not just similar to another boring novel Y with a similar plot. We discover that the two novels are written by the same author, and that very few of both novels have been sold. Then we can justifiably be more confident in concluding that X is likely to be boring novel.
    http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/arg/analogy.php

    Evaluating Analogies
    Number of similarities. If my new purchase is not only the same make and model from the same dealer but also has the same engine, then my conclusion is more likely to be true. In general, the more similarities there are between the instances and my conclusion, the better for the analogical argument.

    Number of dissimilarities. If my friends all bought Geos with automatic transmissions and I plan to buy a Geo with a standard transmission, then the conclusion that I will be delighted with my purchase is a little less likely to be true. In general, the fewer dissimilarities between instances and conclusion, the better an analogical argument is.
    http://www.philosophypages.com/lg/e13.htm

  • Greg

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    Nearly six hours now. Plenty of Fat insults heaped on Ailes so far.
    But I would bet over half hurling the Fat Insults are themselves
    Lardasses. Especially the women!! That is just lastest stats on US Population!
    Plenty of insults For Fox news as expected, though if I was Griffin
    I would be looking real hard at Aile’s Business Model and copy it!
    No Handicap Children insults yet, But the day is not over.
    Press on or Lean Forward whatever!
    GBR, Glenn Beck said hey!

    You did notice that these are responses to Ailes initial assertions of insanity and nazism? Does democracy mean the powerful speak and the individual absorb? Ailes is a big boy… if he can dish it out he can certainly handle digital response from fellow citizens.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    What does Roger Ailes know, he is only the 800 lb Gorilla in the room and we all knw they are not very smart.

  • Alz

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Fox has yet to prove him wrong, but he sure has proven Fox as liars.

    From what I’ve seen, he does a good job of selective editing and pulling things out of context. If he was sincere he’d be doing to it to the other networks too – he’d have far more success. But he’s a Liberal so his goals aren’t related to seeking the truth.

    With that said, no network is perfect, but Fox’s news operation is top notch. MSNBC’s is sort of silly and CNN’s has gone down the tubes. The regular networks really don’t do much anymore.

  • Nahu Tuk

    It’s called Freedom of Speech Kurtz. We the People have a right to it and you do not have the right to usurp it…and neither does Rockefeller, Mark Lloyd, 0bama, or ANYONE else.

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