So Palin bans bloggers who have made a reputation out of mocking her. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I am beginning to suspect that Glynnis has a crush on Sarah Palin. I would wager she gives a breathless little giggle as she finishes each and every “stalker worthy” piece for Mediaite.

Uh-oh! Touched a nerve with Puter Boi… We dare not speak about the liar of the year! Haha.

Puter Boi says:
December 23, 2009 at 10:24 am

It’s tough to tell who Glynnis crushes on more… Palin or Beck?

Of course, she’s correct… the language is still there. And despite the left (and so very many in the media) trying to change Palin’s meaning… she’s correct. Many healthcare experts from this country and others, have noted that rationing must take place in order for healthcare to survive. However, that’s an idea that simply won’t fly in the US… so they need to mock Palin, instead of addressing the real issue.

Ah, Palin… continuing to be under the skin of the media elites… and the media elite wannabes (*see Glynnis… who so desperately wants to be famous for something).

Alright… bring on the hate now. Anyone want to guess how many times we’ll see “teabagger,” “redneck,” or “stupid” before this thread is finished? So very predictable.

For the record: We are now in Day 2 of Glynnis MacNicol refusing to correct her false statement published yesterday (Dec. 22, 2009) that Glenn Beck “once asserted that the government was putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population”. Ironically, this inaccurate remark (which I disprove in the thread) was made in the midst of calling Palin a liar.

However, this is not MacNicocchio’s most egregious offense to date. We are in Day 23 of Editor Glynnis’ lie about “Birthers [Comparing] Obama To An Ape” in a newspaper advertisement, which any grade school kid could tell you isn’t true. The birthers even made it simple for people like Glynnis: They clearly labeled the “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” monkeys so nobody who could read would say they meant the President … well, anybody who could read AND be honest about what they had read.

Rachel Sklar did an video interview yesterday with some whoozat staffer at Air America. Sklar identified an off-camera voice as belonging to Editor Glynnis, but said she was not allowed to show her on camera. I wonder if that’s because MacNicocchio’s nose has been growing so much lately, with every move of her head she might have accidentally knocked over the tripod.

Try to remember that what Palin calls Death Panels was exactly what she instituted in Alaska back in April of 2008. I posted this yesterday and it’s still true. As for banning bloggers, this is just more proof that she’s nothing more than a coward. Afraid to face the media elite but, going to the press club dinner a few weeks ago. She’s basically throwing rocks from facebook instead of having the courage to go one on one with anyone who doesn’t work for faux news. Keep defending her if you like but, how about sticking to the facts for once. What did you think of her linking politfact to Pelosi? Is that statement accurate?

tjl wrote:

Uh-oh! Touched a nerve with Puter Boi… We dare not speak about the liar of the year! Haha.

Her byline’s on this thread. I don’t see why we can’t.

roxsteady says:
December 23, 2009 at 11:16 am

As for banning bloggers, this is just more proof that she’s nothing more than a coward. Afraid to face the media elite but, going to the press club dinner a few weeks ago.

So these unknown bloggers are now part of the “media elite.” Man… that “elite” club is becoming less and less exclusive.

Of course, the irony of all this is how much a fit the left has whenever one of “their” guys does an interview with FNC. Why just yesterday, Jame Hamsher had to defend herself from the attacks she was getting for her interview on FOX & Friends. Sure it’s hypocrisy… but that’s nothing new.

She’s basically throwing rocks from facebook instead of having the courage to go one on one with anyone who doesn’t work for faux news.

Actually, she didn’t want people who were known for smearing and lying about her at one of her events. See… they weren’t there to debate, they were there to mock, insult, and attack… there’s a difference. Maybe not to you, because that’s what “journalism” is to someone who hates Palin… but reality grounded folks don’t buy it.

Wait, Mediaite’s Editor works for Air America.

At least the agenda is now in the open. I won’t be stopping by here anymore and will continue to try and find the rare objective media critic outlet.

See this is why we don’t like her. It’s because she’s a liar.
From The Plumline on Palin’s response to her Lie of the Year Award:

“Palin pushed back on PolitiFact today by arguing that new revelations about a measure protecting the advisory panel amounted to protecting a “rationing death panel.” She added that this rationing “is precisely what I meant when I used that metaphor.”

Actually, that’s a distortion. Let’s review the history.

Palin’s original “death panel” claim came in a Facebook post in August. She didn’t explain what she meant by the term, saying only that she feared an Obama “death panel” staffed with “bureaucrats” that could decide whether her Down Syndrome baby was “worthy of health care.”

Subsequently, Obama attempted to debunk the charge that reform would “pull the plug on grandma,” arguing that it was a reference to “a provision in one of the House bills that allowed Medicare to reimburse people for consultations about end-of-life care.”

Palin did not dispute this interpretation when she responded to Obama a few days later. In fact, she explicitly defended the “death panel” claim by arguing that it was “misleading” for the President to describe end of life counseling as “entirely voluntary.” She also made a broader case about rationing.

In a Wall Street Journal Op ed in September, Palin defended herself again, saying the “death panels” had “rang true for many Americans.” As a result of the phrase, she added, “Congress will likely reject a wrong-headed proposal to authorize end-of-life counseling.” In this Op ed, too, she went on to discuss her concerns about “rationing.”

Bottom line: While it’s true that Palin may have been talking about “rationing” in her original use of the phrase “death panels,” the plain fact is that she also conflated the term with end of life counseling — exactly the falsehood she’s now on the hook for.”

When you keep lying, it’s hard to keep them straight.

Or maybe she just didn’t tell the person who actually wrote her response about her previous statements.

So basically she use “Death Panels” in such a broad and vague manner that her supporters could say that she was really talking about rationing (which would give her argument a good point) and her critics could call her “Liar of the Year” for her “End of Life” argument (which was completely false and inane).

That’s what I’ve gotten out of it so far.

roxsteady wrote:

Try to remember that what Palin calls Death Panels was exactly what she instituted in Alaska back in April of 2008. I posted this yesterday and it’s still true.

It wasn’t true yesterday, it isn’t true today, it won’t be true ever.

As I answered to you yesterday: “Death Panels” doesn’t apply to end-of-life counseling with the goal of assisting the aged and terminally ill and their families to make choices for themselves, which is what Palin did in declaring April 16, 2008 “Healthcare Decisions Day.”

Here’s the actual declaration, still online on the Alaska State Government website, including this:

Healthcare Decisions Day is designed to raise public awareness of the need to plan ahead for healthcare decisions, related to end of life care and medical decision-making whenever patients are unable to speak for themselves and to encourage the specific use of advance directives to communicate these important healthcare decisions.

“Death Panel” DOES refer to a government agency — in the case of ObamaCare, the Independent Payment Advisory Board — charged with deciding whether or not the cost of providing life-saving drugs or therapy is too expensive for individuals. The IPAB is modeled after boards such as the UK’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE). From the August 7, 2008 edition of the London Daily Mail:

Drug denial is devastating ‘death sentence’ for cancer patients

Thousands of kidney cancer patients have been handed an ‘early death sentence’ under plans to ban life-extending new drugs.

Four drugs which can offer patients extra years with their loved ones have been rejected by the Government’s rationing body because they cost too much. The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence admits the drugs work, but says that if they are approved, patients with other diseases will have to go without.

Campaigners claim the Health Service is being plunged into the Dark Ages, as other western European countries use the drugs as standard. Instead, NICE has limited treatment to a drug called interferon that doctors claim is ineffective for 75 per cent of patients.

Kidney specialist Tim Eisen, professor of medical oncology at the Cambridge Research Institute, said: ‘Patients here are receiving medieval treatment. ‘Together these drugs are the single greatest advance for kidney cancer patients in the last 20 years, yet I and my colleagues face the prospect of being unable to offer treatment that is absolutely standard in every other western European country.’

‘This decision will mean that the UK will have the poorest survival figures in Europe.’

Read more.

As I wrote yesterday, the NICE approach is just the sort of thing that Obama advisor Robert Reich spoke about — ON VIDEO — in a September 2007 lecture in which he spoke of what progressive leaders would say if they had no fear of the repercussions of being honest:

“We’re not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It’s too expensive … so we’re going to let you die.”

OK, roxie? Now you know the difference between Palin’s “Healthcare Decisions Day” and Obama’s proposed “Death Panel.” So the next time you say they’re the same thing, you’ll be lying.

You all realize that Palin impacts your life in no meaningful tangible way (to date). Unless of course, you resided or reside in Alaska while she was doing public service. For those who did, makes sense that you attack or defend.

You all realize that YOU have a significant impact on her life, and thus far in a very positive way. Like you all are riding on her like/dislike coat tail. Safe to assume you have made her significantly more wealthy by either attacking or defending her. That goes for the Media as well (I think the media just wants a part of that significant coat tail for revenues.) I’m speculating the media has transitioned from thwarting her from a McCain presidency threat by attacking or helping a McCain presidency in 08′ by defending to just plain revenue and/or journalistic career coat tails by this point).

It seems pretty clear her and the media are using you all to improve the Palin family financials and media business revenues to ascend/make her. I mean, she’s significantly more wealthy now than 08. I’m just saying.

Unpopularity / Popularity / Media coverage / books etc will do that.

HAhahaHAHAHhahahAHAHA!!1 It continues to AMUSE ME how PETRIFIED the LIBS are of this SEXY, smart, HOT, intelligent, PRETTY, strong, BEAUTIFUL woman!!1 They are so OBSESSED that they must be SCARED – it’s the ONLY explanation!!1 Go ahead and keep WHINING, libs … you’ll be doing a LOT MORE of it in 2012 when she is RUNNING our Once Proud Republic!!1 GO SARAH!!1

Palin is an attention whore, a nutjob, a lunatic, an uneducated uninformed seeker of fame.

Nothing more – she’s a fart in the wind. stinks while it’s hear but will disappear soon enough.

hear being ‘here’ of course -

Karl,

No one seriously, no one is afraid of her. We are simply dumbfounded at her fame when she has no intelligence, no depth whatsoever. I promise you, there is no fear. Please.. PLEASE run her for president in 2012.

Listen, whenever you LIBS criticize SARAH, we are OBLIGATED to say either that you are “OBSESSED” with her or “SCARED” of her … preferably BOTH!!1 That’s just how it’s DONE, deal with it!!1

Thumbs up to Sarah. Someone has to tell the truth, and we know it isn’t the media. CBO announced last night that Obamacare does NOT decrease the deficit, it increases it, and Harry misrepresented the facts! No surprise there, Harry does that all the time.

Obama says he is going to put health care aside and work on a jobs bill instead. So why the rush to pass a bill when the “goodies” don’t take effect until two years after Obama has left office.

Sarah Palin should have been person of the year.

So the fact that we have to pay into this UHC system for years before it begins to be put into effect, and adding 30 million patients to the Federal healthcare rolls is going to save money is a smaller lie than parsing Sarah’s words?

TFT
Even Karl Spensen had the integrity to keep his same name from TVNewser. You were hiding your identity intentionally when you switched boards and you were caught by JunkJunk in the process. You now have the gall to whine about someone else using your old name.

Sarah is The One who will lead us out of this quagmire! Under President Palin, the evil evil DEATH PANELS will go away forever, and we’ll go back to the current system of death panels who work for the insurance companies to ration care! They’ll be even MORE efficient at rationing care and killing people, because they’re run by the private sector, and we know that government screws everything up.

Polifact needs to “quit makin’ stuff up” and be as nonpartisan as FOX NEWS before we give them any credence.

PALIN! PALIN! PALIN!

Hey @same2u

Isn’t your comment to TfT off topic? You know like how you frequently call other commenters. I think it’s something like “ass hat(s)” for doing? It’s a Sarah Palin story!

What’s up with that, you know being off topic?

I’m beginning to think you have a fetish for TVNewser. You reference that site frequently in your posts. In case you got lost, This is Mediaite.

What’s cool, is that you already stated you would ignore my posts or respond to them. So I’m pretty sure you won’t read this post or know it existed.

MartiniShark:

So the fact that we have to pay into this UHC system for years before it begins to be put into effect, and adding 30 million patients to the Federal healthcare rolls is going to save money is a smaller lie than parsing Sarah’s words?

When I saw Harry Reid talk mumbling his nonsense about the apocryphal individuals that were dying that day, that hour, and as he spoke because they didn’t have health insurance as if the dying would stop once the bill was signed into law, I was thankful for the sake of the owner of the television I was watching there wasn’t a sledgehammer nearby.

In other words, no one will die ever again, therefoe UHC actually has LIFE panels. That IS a relief!

Same2u: I left and changed my screen name because of the personal attacks, off-topic commentary, foul language and stalking that are permitted at TVNewser. It is my hope that this board will not encourage the same level of discourse. So, I recommend that if you want to post off-topic comments, go do it at TVNewser.

Merry Christmas.

Matters of comment section etiquette and protocol, including those related to poor name selection, are always on-topic.

Talk about STALKING!!1 That weirdo IMNOTBLUE knows more about my ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER than I do, not to mention the fact that he’s apparently STALKING my cousin Christian!!1 Sounds like SOMEBODY got laid off from their job at the PENNYSAVER and has way too much TIME on their HANDS!!1

Karl Spensen – Could not have said it better.

The usual “This-blog-is my-full-time-life” blogsters are out in force here today? Whatsa matter? No NACAR?? No football?? They are deeply alienated from the American Dream – having failed in all aspects. Here they can find a weensy bit of empowerment – a tad of “social standing.” (As it were.). They simply chatter onward – monkey like – that which they hear & have been told to say. The tiniest “offense” to them can provoke a murdrous rage. Incognizants. Group goonery & thuggery. Bringing in Christmas with their usual bitterness, irrationality, and civil incoherence. It is good!!! Yup.

Nachi sputtered:

They simply chatter onward – monkey like – that which they hear & have been told to say.

That’s hilarious, Nachi, considering I’m the only one on this thread who has actually done any research (and that includes Editor Glynnis). The rest of you just swallow whatever MacNicocchio feeds you in your high chair without question.

And Ted, if you are sitting down, it must be on one of those foam rings after I so thoroughly kicked your figurative hindquarters on this thread. You’re on the clock along with Editor Glynnis — when are you going to admit I am right, and Glenn Beck NEVER said the government put sterilants in the water supply? It’s Day 2.

Oh, by the way, Nachi, I am a black man. By Glynnis’ standards, you’re a racist since you said I “chatter onward — monkey like.” Good thing my standards are higher, and I don’t jump to conclusions like that.

I don’t think you’re a racist. Just a jerk.

Lawrence O’Donnell doesn’t really have the right to comment on any topic, as he has never apologized for his own transgressions.

As for the death panels, I suppose eventually we will find out for sure what is in the bill that the Senate is in such a hurry to pass. Or maybe they will find their way back in, in the conference report. How else will Medicare spending be cut by $500 billion, if not by some kind of rationing scheme that some panel will have to administer?