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So The Wall Street Protests Are Super Popular, But Will That Last For Long?

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Apparently America likes their tea to be herbal. At least that’s what a new poll from Time Magazine shows. The country-wide poll finds that Americans have a strongly positive view of the Occupy Wall Street movement, much more so than that of the Tea Party.

I guess people really do like hippie, Marxist, mass-murderers after all. But why?

From Time:

“The survey also revealed that respondents have a better impression of the left-leaning protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street than they do of the Tea Party movement. Fifty-four percent of respondents harbor a positive view of the burgeoning protest movement, well above the 23% with a negative opinion. By contrast, just 27% of those surveyed have favorable views of the Tea Party, while 65% say its impact on U.S. politics since its inception in 2009 has been negative or negligible.

Those results reflect a strain of economic populism common to the new movement’s backers. Among those respondents familiar with Occupy Wall Street, nearly 80% argue the wealth disparity in the U.S. has grown too large and 68% say the rich should pay more taxes. Even so, this cohort is aware of the challenges facing the movement. Fifty-six percent predict Occupy Wall Street will have little impact on American politics, and another 9% say its effect will be negative.”

So what does this mean? Well, in this writer’s admittedly useless opinion, it probably just means that the new protest movement hasn’t been co-opted by a political party yet.

People like populist protest movements. As much as those shouting about “class warfare” might not like it, Americans do think the rich have gotten too rich. As a nation, we like capitalism but we believe in the idea of “fairness” more. Hell, you can boil a lot of the differences between “liberalism” and “conservatism” down to a mere disagreement on the definition of “fair.” So, when it seems like the “successful” people are merely gaming the system, yeah, the country is going to support a movement to stop them.

You know what people don’t like? Political parties. Especially the other political party. Back when the Tea Party first started and was more of an amorphous, vague thing, the national feelings were probably very similar to this. However, once people like Sarah Palin got involved, the movement seemed much more like an arm of the Republican Party to those on the outside. Whether or not you agree that it is is unimportant, that’s what it looks like.

It didn’t help that there was a strong anti-Obama vibe from the beginning. Meanwhile, the OWS movement has the less political bogeyman of “rich bankers.” Sure, the groups in the park are obviously left-leaning but, to people on the street, the phrasing from the Time pollsters, “A GROUP OF PROTESTORS [who have] BEEN GATHERING ON WALL STREET,” doesn’t initially scream out “Democrat” or “Republican.” Therefore, it doesn’t initiate any flash judgement. No one’s worried about going against “their team.”

Right now, conservative media figures are unsurprisingly trying to demonize the Wall Street protesters. However, their accusations that the people are “dirty hippies” or “revolutionaries.” Doesn’t seem to be having much of an effect. In my opinion, the people who will do the most to turn portions of the country against this movement are the left-leaning media figures trying to claim the group as their own. They want this to be the liberal Tea Party, however, every time they say that, it makes it sound like the Democrat Tea Party. Once that happens, you can watch these poll numbers start to drop.

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  • Concerned Citizen

    it means the questions were skewed, lets look:

    Q11. IN THE PAST FEW DAYS, A GROUP OF PROTESTORS HAS BEEN GATHERING ON WALL STREET IN NEW YORK CITY AND SOME OTHER CITIES TO PROTEST POLICIES WHICH THEY SAY FAVOR THE RICH, THE GOVERNMENT’S BANK BAILOUT, AND THE INFLUENCE OF MONEY IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. IS YOUR OPINION OF THESE PROTESTS VERY FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE, VERY UNFAVORABLE, OR DON’T YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROTESTS TO HAVE AN OPINION?

    Q8. ON ANOTHER ISSUE, IS YOUR OPINION OF THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT VERY FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE, SOMEWHAT UNFAVORABLE, VERY UNFAVORABLE, OR DON’T YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE TEA PARTY TO HAVE AN OPINION?

    So, while the “Occupy Wall Street” question is phrased in a sympathetic manner, the Tea Party question just mentions the name “Tea Party,” which has been associated with partisan fighting for over two years now. Had pollsters approached the Tea Party question in the same way as the Occupy Wall Street one, they may have written something such as: “Do you support the movement that opposes the Wall Street bailouts, thinks Washington has gotten too big and powerful, and wants to lawmakers to respect America’s founding Constitutional principles?” That clearly would have made respondents view the Tea Party more favorably. Given the biased way the questions were phrased in the Time poll, it’s no surprise that 54 percent viewed Occupy Wall Street favorably, compared with just 27 percent who said they viewed the Tea Party favorably. http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/flawed-poll-occupy-wall-st-vs-tea-party

  • Anonymous

    No. These people vote for Obama. Simple as that.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    After the right wing protest movement (Tea) proved insincere in their concern for the economy and then became hostile toward recovery momentum had no choice but to shift to the left.  This generation will no doubt become galvanized by the hostility of the tea’s toward 100 years of shared legislative progress and the experience of watching compromise rejected by political fundamentalism.  

  • Sean

    Just as the Tea Party would vote for a toaster for president if you stamped GOP on the side of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A4OJ2F7ADXSD7OMEUUEQDQDZ2Y Dustin Baker

    Skewed polls results published by a far left magazine and reported by the leftist blog Mediaite.  The Tea Party was largely the catalyst for the biggest wave election of all time in 2010.  The OWS protests are just a bunch of idiot hippies with no discernible agenda. 

  • Jim

    Silly Sean, toasters?  Tea party people are well versed on the U.S. Constitution – Article 2 Section 1, which says in part:  No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    yes, kind of the definition of a poorly worded polling question. No polling firm would find this acceptable standards.  Either the polling firm is subpar or intentionally trying to skew the results. 

  • Anonymous

    right now, the toaster would certainly do less harm to the economy LOL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    “Apparently America likes their tea to be herbal. At least that’s what a new poll from Time Magazine shows. The country-wide poll finds that Americans have a strongly positive view of the Occupy Wall Street movement, much more so than that of the Tea Party.”

    No, it didn’t since the poll never even mentioned Occupy Wall Street. But it’s not like TIME, Mediaite, and the rest of the leftist media isn’t above outright lies to support their agenda.

    And everyone knows these little whiny brats are gonna back it in and move back into their parents basement once it gets cold outside. 6 months from now we’ll be laughing about how the leftist media shot its load over a completely ineffective set of protests, yet again. How’d Wisconsin work out for you? Oh yeah, you dropped coverage of that when your leftist agenda didn’t pan out there, huh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7QVUUCGCP56U2BT5GAK5YO6CUU George

    I think the protest will last a while. They are already moving overseas and people are still protesting on Wall street. If you want to know why they are protesting, check out this article.

    http://explainlikeakid.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-people-are-protesting-on-wall.html

  • Anonymous

    This is news only to a news media who believes its own BS. Polls have been showing for decades that Americans are to the left of both parties in almost all issues.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody can tell by this point how long OWS will last. The article fails to name the fundamental difference between the Tea Party and the OWS-movement. The Tea Party has never had  an agenda based in reality. It´s just propaganda by the people who founded the astroturf. Death panel? A lie. Goverment take over? A lie. Obama was born outside the U.S.? Delusions, lies and money is what the the Tea Party is based on.

    OWS articulates two simple demands: “End the wars, tax the rich.”

    Both is widely supported by the majority of Americans. And who besides the rich, the arms industry and big oil can be against that?

    You want a change politics? You don´t like how things are going? End the wars, tax the rich is a good start and it´s def high time to put an end to the perversion of a representative democracy by making corporations first class citizens.

  • Redleaf

    OWS will be popular until corporations finally take back their power.
    Corporations should be unregulated and not have to pay taxes. This creates an atmosphere for them to be job creators. Libitards think the government should help individuals. Not true. The government should help out corporations because they need help more than people. 

  • Anonymous

    Of course Occupy Wall Street is popular.  We are standing up for America.

    In stark contrast to the Teabaggers and other Republicans, we support and defend the Constitution.

    Teabaggers supported the repeal of habeas and attacked the Constitution at every turn.  Teabaggers supported wars of imperialism that killed American troops and hundreds of thousands of innocent people for no reason whatsoever.  Teabaggers supported torture and other war crimes. Teabaggers supported the government spying on the people.  Teabaggers supported the re-writing of history.  Teabaggers supported corporatism at the cost of freedom.  Teabaggers supported a massive transfer of wealth to the top 1%.

    Teabaggers basically supported EVERYTHING that HItler and Stalin agreed on.

    Occupy Wall Street, on the other hand, is defending the Constitution and standing up for real American values. Join us, won’t you?

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    LOL

    Time magazine, worth a dollar, creates a poll where they say the OWS is popular and that is what the MSM is running with.

    What a frelling joke.

  • Frod

    It’s not a competition you flaming morons.

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    Being popular doesn’t make you right.

    See: Obama Administration circa 2009. Totally wrong in every way, but lots of people falling all over themselves to explain it away.

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    That’s some seriously historically ignorant Obamacrat DERP right there. You appear to be laboring under the impression that the American people are not only 8 years old, but also amnesiacs.

    Carry on.

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    *citation needed

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    Which article of the Constitution is the one that tells you to crap on police cars?

    And which article of the Constitution says that you must pay for a stranger’s college education?

    Cite them for us.

    Oh, and you’ve violated Godwin’s law and have already lost the argument, so take your time.

  • Michelle

    A Tale of Two Protests: Media Cheer Wall Street Occupiers But Jeered Tea Partiers

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2011/10/13/tale-two-protests-media-cheer-wall-street-occupiers-jeered-tea-par

    What liberal media bias?

  • Anonymous

    Actually, nobody crapped on a police car. A guy adjusted something in his pants, and Republicans convinced you that he crapped on a car. Republicans know you’re a moron, so they can make you believe anything.

    You don’t seem to understand the Constitution. Just because the Constitution doesn’t say you are not a moron doesn’t mean you are not a moron. You’ve been trained to use this line of false logic because Republicans know you are a moron.

    Please try to understand that intelligent people can spot stupid people right off.

  • MIKE

    As long as these protesters allow the unions to march with them they will have no credibility with me..
    You could make the argument that with the automotive bailout and how stimulus funds were doled out that the unions got a bigger bailout than the banks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    It probably helps that the media isn’t united in smearing them nightly for several years.

  • Anonymous

    The country-wide poll finds that Americans have a strongly positive view
    of the Occupy Wall Street movement, much more so than that of the Tea
    Party.

    Wait! What? That can’t be true! 

    No all the posters who quote every poll that supports their position will be denouncing this one. Ya gots ta chuckle.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    You add so very little.

  • Anonymous

    Awwwww.
    Do you feel smeared?
    Too bad.

  • Anonymous

    Who said anything about unions?

  • Anonymous

    Meida did not start out attacking the Tea Party folks. Did see a whole lot of racist at the first T rallies, but they disappeared.
    One media outlet, Fox, praised TP so much that it was sickening. Hannity almost lost his job over promoting TP instead of Fox.

  • Anonymous

    The Hitler and Stalin thing went too far, but otherwise, your comments are as valid as any conservative claim to patriotism.

  • Anonymous

    No, people have been trained to resist the Stalin and Hitler comparisons. But history is there for a reason. When the evil people start the torture, the Hitler comparisons have to be made. Always, always, always.

  • Anonymous

    Every state in the nation takes some of the taxes you pay and gives some money directly to college students who have proven they are smart enough to graduate, AND every state college gets money that pays professors and admin from guess where.
    Take it a step further. Do you agree that education through the 12th grade should be free?
    How do you think that gets paid for?
    Do you benefit from my college degree? You sure do!
    Our nation got to be so great economically because college grads make the big business decisions and do the science stuff.

  • Anonymous

    We are nowhere near that bad a situation.
    I know some otherwise sane people who only support weatherboarding because they don’t know that there are many much more effective ways of getting information. They think it is the only way that works. They are not cruel or paranoid or dictatorial. They are simply ignorant.

  • Anonymous

    No pic of the crap. Only a suggestion that it is what the guy was doing.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you think that was the case with all Good Germans? I do. I think they were just regular people who never bothered to do the right thing because it was much easier to fall in line.

  • Exgoper

    Michelle, come on — we had an agreement. From now on every time you’re going to post a tired, hackneyed, cliched talking point, you’re just going to use the numbering system.

    Just say, “Talking Point #24″ and we’ll know exactly what you’re telling us for the umpteenth time!

  • Exgoper

    Time is now a “far left magazine.”

    Oy, you folks really have gone off the deep end.

  • Roger_Fails

    …than Bush did. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Malone/100002475802402 Tim Malone

    98% of the 99% hate the people claiming to be the 99%. 

  • Anonymous

    You think the poll would have been less skewered if the question about the Tea Party had never mentioned the words “Tea Party”?  In all fairness, that seems skewered too.

    BTW, I do see your point about how the questions are asked.  The question pertaining to OWS never mentions its name directly.  However, once any group developes an ideology and history it becomes anchored to them.  Past behavior is the best indicator of what future behavior might be.  So, the Tea Party will have to take the good with the bad, just as OWS will one day have to answer for it’s actions.

  • Jason

    BOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!

    *DRINK*

  • Jason

    This is so stupid, I can’t dignify it with a response, beyond calling it “stupid”. Holy sh!t son, you’re beyond help.

  • Jason

    Yes, Time is extremely far-left. The only people reading that useless rag are fringe kooks getting the tires replaced on their prius or waiting for a colonoscopy.  You idiots are 18% of the population. No idiotic leftwing belief you tards come up with is shared by more than a fringe base of miscreants, drug addled hipsters,  marxist professors and prisoners. The only way you ever get anything your way is by lying about your intentions… sort of the way Time did with this fraud of a poll.

  • Anonymous

    Fecal fufillment is not recognised, only implied.  However, the photographer might have a whole roll of film that we (mercilfully) have’nt seen.  We should’nt judge the whole group for the deeds of a few.

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, that’s human nature.  We can rise above our baser selves.  Some do, some don’t, some never even realise.

  • Jason

    Your first mistake is in buying this poll. If the results were true, Romney, Perry & Cain wouldn’t be leading Obama in most nationwide polls. Romney in all of them.

    Secondly, the Tea Party was popular for quite awhile too. This stuff was explained to you by the lefty who wrote the piece. My guess is you just read the headlines, leave an uninformed, childish retort to impress your fellow libtard posters, before returning to your normal daily activities of masturbation marathons and chain swallowing twinkies.  

  • Anonymous

    I am in complete agreement on both counts.

    BTW, I only saw one pic that looked to me like the guy was going to sit on the car. But, even if he did do that nasty thing, he is  just one guy and if it had been a Tea party gathering, the conservatives would all swear he was an agent provocateur, a plant.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously, the Tea Party has angered a significant number of Americans.  Which is more likely? Their own actions caused the backlash or liberal media bias?  I guess it depends who you ask.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll tell you how I felt. The Tea Party and the Republicans, I now call them Teapublicans, acted like they were the ONLY True Patriots and Americans, and everybody else was a traitor and a socialist, at minimum. They talked and acted like they had 100% support, and I know I’m not the only one who got pissed off at that.

    They really did bring it on themselves because they were so damn smug about it.
    They cannot blame the “lamestream” media, even if the popular media does tend to be liberal. There are plenty of conservative newspapers, magazines, books, radio shows, and TV shows, but when you add it all up, liberal media dominate in just about every category because Americans want their media to be liberal.

    I know Fox will deny that with the claim that they have more viewers than all other 24 hr. news channels, but if Fox does dominate, why is Fox among those who are loudest ins saying “the media” is biased?

    How can Fox have that both ways?

  • Anonymous

    Do tell that to Fox and Friends.

  • Anonymous

    The entire world was in a Great Depression, but Germany was the first to come out of it because of what Hitler and his party did. Sure, he totally destroyed the good that he did because he was a megalomaniac as well as paranoid and delusional (all fits together in one package), but right up until he started the war (in Europe) Germany was economically stronger than any other country.
    As for “the Jewish Problem,” France and other parts of Europe were quite anti-Semitic. and quite a large number of famous Americans were, too.
    Germany did not look any more dangerous to a Jew than Italy did. You really ought to include Mussolini with Hitler. Don’t even get me started on how Russia treated Jews for centuries, but at least Stalin didn’t just kill Jews. He killed anybody who he suspected, and he suspected everybody.
    The bottom line is we don’t have dictators and we never will have a dictator.
    Don’t let your otherwise logical comments turn into paranoia. If you do that, you will be no better than Glenn Beck.

  • Anonymous

    Who are you again?
    I forget.

  • Tigerprez

    Given the way those questions are phrased, it’s amazing that only 54% of those polled viewed OWS favorably. That doesn’t bode well for them as a movement and suggests that the more people are finding out that they’re basically a far left “smash capitalism” movement, the less they like them. I mean, this is a country where at least 54% still is deeply suspicious of Obamacare. Do you think those same people are going to embrace a movement that wants to rewrite the Constitution, end capitalism, and establish a quasi-communist state? These people are the biggest gift to the Republican party since Alvin Greene. I wish them a long and loudmouthed presence on the national stage for the next year.

  • Anonymous

    OK. I hereby cite you for reckless endangerment of common sense. 

  • Anonymous

    Well let’s see the Liberal MSM has been touting that these people are just like everyday Americans, yet many are holding signs attacking Capitalism and hyping Socialism and Communism.

    The Majority MSM has not shown the REAL signs that many were holding up. When the Tea Party was in the News, the majority of the MSM was trying to find ANY ‘racist’ sign or LaRouche nazi mustache signs. The MSM was giving out the narrative that the Tea Party were extremists while portraying Occupy Wall Street bunch as everyday Americans when many of them are Marxists, Communists, Anti-Capitalists, Socialists, and Anarchists.

    My local “Occupy” was retweeting messages from this group;

    http://twitter.com/#!/norcalsocialism

    The InternationalSOCIALIST.org twitter account.

    From their website;

    “A world free of exploitation–socialism–is not only possible but worth fighting for. The ISO stands in the tradition of revolutionary socialists Karl Marx, V.I. Lenin and Leon Trotsky…”

  • Anonymous

    So, you’re using polls to disprove this poll?  Questionable choice. Nothing in my post indicates I bought into the poll, so you jumped the gun a little there. 2ndly, you’re reasoning is off. polls indicating Romney and others lead Obama would not mean this poll can;t be true.

    Other than that your post is darn clever ,{for a 7th grader}

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Thank you for your bold and insightful contribution to the public dialogue.  

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Thank you for your bold and insightful contribution to the public dialogue.  

  • Anonymous

    or clinton.  The lowering of the rates started back then.  But as anyone will tell you, you have to work with the cards you’ve been handed, NOT what you wish.  Real leaders do their best work when times are tough.   

  • caconservative

    Their more fun to watch. Kinda like watching a train wreck. People acting like adults (Tea-Party) and actually knowing what their demonstrating for doesn’t have that, it could explode at any moment, feel to it.

  • CarmanK

    The Tparty Nationalists serving inn Congress have cause great harm to the country since 2010. The candidates ran on job creation and have done nothing to change the country for the better. They have had several chances to put america first ad have chosen ideology over principle. The TPARTY  movemet was subsidized by the KORCHROACHES AND PROMOTED BY MURDOGS WITH counterfeit lies. The town hall disruptions were staged for the next FOX HEADLINE. Now the TPARTY has been exposed and the true goals of their movement was to empower the repugs to make OBAMA fail. NO poll would have changed the results. The TPARTY has been exposed to the sunlight and the dark side revealed.

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