Murders that walk into a post office do not do it based on their religion. They do not walk into the place yelling “God is Great” or “jesus is great.” They are motivated by something other than religion such as a perceived wrong, totally separate from their religious beliefs.

Jihadist on the other hand do it our of their distorted view of Islam. The US Army Major that attacked and killed his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood earlier in the year walked around putting bullet after bullet into soldiers while yelling “Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.”

Tavis Smiley is nothing but an apologist. He is simply just ignorant of the facts, or specifically trying to divert/ distort the reality.

Wow, I have no words. Obviously, he doesn’t remember that with Columbine, the students who professed to loved the lord were shot on sight.

It seems unlikely that Columbine, for example, was a “Christian” shooting – both boys referred to themselves as gods (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm), which implies that they did not believe in another god in any form, and as far as the media reports I’ve read, their parents have never referenced any particular method of teaching their boys right from wrong (e.g., they have never cited the boys as violating a firm faith in God or particular religious sect or going to a Church or temple as part of their upbringing), limiting their comments to more general statements of the same point (teaching right from wrong). One parent described themselves as having a “quantitative” outlook. We know the parents were well-educated, but religious? Doesn’t seem to be part of the picture (even if it actually might have been). One of the mothers of the boys did say that they had acted in contradiction to what they were taught, but that doesn’t have anything to do, per se, with religion. So, where Smiley gets off specifically citing Columbine as the result of Christianity (as institutionalized, I would assume, not the actual religion which specifically states, “Thou shalt not kill,” – the problem with arguments over religion is that the institutions established by Man are often equated with the religion itself, an error which is all too common, since it is Man who perverts religion, not religion perverting Man) is a mystery – unless we simply assume that Mr. Smiley is anti-Christian to the point where he blames everything on that religion.

Tavis Smiley is one stupid, stupid motherf**ker

…yet he is considered an intellectual by the left..like Bill Maher

This isn’t the first time a lib has trashed Christianity to defend islam.

Its funny how some seem to forget the generations of Americans and Christians who have killed in the name of God, but lets not go there!

Read Dave Cullen’s Columbine, an incredible and haunting book. No one was killed because of their belief in God. That was a rumor proved untrue that people still ran with to sell books.

I hadn’t heard that paul. I was going by what I recall from eye witness accounts.

Yeah it was a rumor that took on a life of its own, but it’s untrue. The publisher of the book about the girl is partly at fault because they knew the truth but wanted to sell books.

Toshiba2 says:
“Its funny how some seem to forget the generations of Americans and Christians who have killed in the name of God, but lets not go there!”

No one is saying the Christianity hasn’t killed people. We can look to the conquest of the America’s, the Crusades, the Spanish inquisition just to name a few. However, that was then, this is now. The current and on going war is against those extremist organizations with a distorted view of Islam. They justify their attacks on “infidels” and even fellow Muslims as an act of Jihad. They scream “Allah Akbar” as they ram their hijacked airliner into buildings, or as they walk into a crowd full of fellow Muslims. They conduct a ceremonial rituall as prescribed in the Koran about how to clean themselves prior to a “martydom” operation. This is no, not 40 years ago, not 150 or 1500 years ago. This is a current threat against western people.

LRD, and the really scary part is the current administration refuses admit radical islam is a problem.

What do they say radical Islam is? A minor nuisance?

What a complete dick. name the incidents, Tavis , you ass.

The two who shot up Columbine were atheists, you dullard.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:02 am

Its funny how some seem to forget the generations of Americans and Christians who have killed in the name of God, but lets not go there!”

Go there.

Post for me the number of incidents where Christians have “every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools” and killed people in the name of God?

I’ll wait.

Paul, they won’t use the words radical islam, period. Holder was asked point blank if he thought radical islam was a terror concern and he refused to say it was. He was asked like 5 times in a row from a Senator in fact and still wouldn’t say it.

Can someone tell me why Dr. George Tiller was killed? What was his ideology? http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/kansas.abortion.roeder.sentence/index.html

I think it was a church he walked into John!

Paul, here is the video if you want to watch it. It’s quite staggering.

Tishiba2, Tiller’s death was murder plain and simple. Then again, so is abortion. I’ll let God sort it out.

Sorry Paul, here is the link:

http://www.breitbart.tv/ag-holder-refuses-to-say-radical-islam-is-a-cause-of-terrorism-committed-by-muslims/

I think we get a little too worked up about terminology, which merely serves as a distraction. Is what we call them really that vital? Everyone agrees that they are terrorists. Who cares what we call them?

As the left so often does, Tavis believes that just tossing comments out there is enough. No need for facts or examples or anything else. He said it, and that makes it so.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:32 am

Can someone tell me why Dr. George Tiller was killed? What was his ideology? http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/kansas.abortion.roeder.sentence/index.html”

As I asked, Post for me the number of incidents where Christians have “every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools” and killed people in the name of God?

Nice try MichelleF, anybody else?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/kansas.abortion.roeder.sentence/index.html

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:32 am

Can someone tell me why Dr. George Tiller was killed? What was his ideology? ”

Yes, he was murdering the unborn.

The ideology of the shooter?

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:49 am

The ideology of the shooter?”

He was against the murdering of the unborn unlike you.

It happens John, but thankfully it doesn’t happen often. Two years ago a man killed two people in a Tennessee church. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,392081,00.html) Also the shooting in the Holocaust Museum that killed one.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:42 am
“I think we get a little too worked up about terminology, which merely serves as a distraction. Is what we call them really that vital? Everyone agrees that they are terrorists. Who cares what we call them?”

You have a reasonable point, l’ll agree. But can we at least call them what they call themselves – Jihadists.

If we can’t even define relevant issues to the problem, because we might upset some people, then this is going to be a very long struggle.

People can call them whatever makes them comfortable. I just think getting worked up about what the administration calls them distracts from bigger, more important issues.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:51 am

It happens John, but thankfully it doesn’t happen often”

No, according to Tavis, it happens everyday- , you and Tosiba have named 2 – name the one that happened yesterday- and the day before- and the day before that.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
-Sir Winston Churchill

Oh, and Tosibe, 46% of criminals in prison in the USA are black- hmmm, can we assume that they are criminals because they are black?

Sounds with your logic, we can!

I never said it happens every day.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:42 am

I think we get a little too worked up about terminology, which merely serves as a distraction. Is what we call them really that vital? Everyone agrees that they are terrorists. Who cares what we call them?

Might I suggest that you read 1984 and let us know afterward if you are of the same opinion. Actually, to my mind, the very fact of BHO et al so consciously changing the terminology (man made natural disaster for God’s sake!) shows just how important terminology is.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:00 am

I never said it happens every day.”

Tavis did and his comments are what the topic is.

OK John. Thanks.

I have read 1984 and I am of the same opinion.

JohnSimpson says:
May 28, 2010 at 9:59 am

paulmdoro, 46% of criminals in prison in the USA are black- hmmm, can we assume that they are criminals because they are black?

Sounds with your logic, we can!

LOL…”Man caused disasters.” Now that was a good term coined by the Secretary of DHS.

Liberty – Not Redistribution says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:04 am

LOL…”Man caused disasters.” Now that was a good term coined by the Secretary of DHS.”

maybe they will call the BP spill a “terrorist act.”

The question is, why do Tavis and so many on the left get so defensive when someone mentions radical Islam?

My logic means that blacks in prison are criminals because they are black?

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:17 am

My logic means that blacks in prison are criminals because they are black?”

Of course. If a christian did someone horrible, you attribute it, like Tavis does, to he’s being a Christian, so it follows that if a black commits a crime, it’s because he is black.

Nice try John, I highlighted an incident that ran counter to your narrative, Christians have and will continue to kill in the name of God!

If you choose to assume that you can, I find it idiotic but whatever!

If you choose to assume that you can, I find it idiotic but whatever!”

Wrong! I stated a fact, so it must be so!

I did not attribute anything to Christianity, the guy in this case did it himself!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/kansas.abortion.roeder.sentence/index.html

Is saying that a Christian committed a crime claiming that their being Christian is why they did it?

And paul, from the link you provided:

“”It appears that what brought him to this horrible event was his lack of being able to obtain a job, his frustration over that, and his stated hatred for the liberal movement,” Knoxville Police Chief Sterling Owen IV said at a press conference Monday.”

No where does it say he did it because he was a Christian.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:29 am

Is saying that a Christian committed a crime claiming that their being Christian is why they did it?”

That’s what Tavis and Tosiba are saying.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:28 am

I did not attribute anything to Christianity, the guy in this case did it himself!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/01/kansas.abortion.roeder.sentence/index.html”

makes no difference- You say Christians do things like this because they are Christians- it only follows that blacks are incarcerated at nearly 4x their percent of population because they are black. I’m using your reasoning.

The fact that 46% of criminals in prison, maybe right, but your assumption that they are criminals because they are black is idiotic!

Simply reasoning tosiba- black = criminal. That’s what your reasoning leads to.

oshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:33 am

The fact that 46% of criminals in prison, maybe right, but your assumption that they are criminals because they are black is idiotic!”

No more than your argument that a person kills because he is a Christian.

John that is what I have been saying, that a Christian committed a crime. I never said the reason they did it is because they’re Christian.

And list the one who killed yesterday and the day before because he was a Christian.

I already said that Christians in America don’t kill people everyday.

BTW, I have read some of Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s writing, including Infidel, and seen/listened to a few interviews with her. I think she is an extremely compelling individual.

Toshiba, at least you can bitch at how “Christianity is oh-so evil” and Christians wont attack you. But if you say how most terrorists are Muslims or show what Theo Van Gogh did, you’ll end how Theo Van Gogh did, dead. D E A D. So go bitching on Christians Toshiba, you are only doing it because you are such a coward, because you know if you talk badly about Muslims, you know you will be attacked.

Speaking of Theo Van Gogh, I highly recommend Ian Buruma’s fascinating book about the killing, Murder in Amsterdam. Great book. http://www.ianburuma.com/

paulmdoro says:”

I hve no beef with you- it’s with Tosiba who likes to have her logic run one way- in the direction of her beliefs only.

IIf I remember well , I think the IRA were classified as Terrorist, FARC , NAZIs etc. And I also remember Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist. So at a point in time a label is put on a group of people. Whoever terrorise civilians is a terrorist plain and simple. Don’t pick and choose.

Tavis needs a class on statistics. Christians out-number Muslims in the US by 100-to-1. So of course there are more Christians doing all sorts of things, good and bad, than Muslims. But when it comes to terrorists killings and suicide bombings on a global basis, about half of the perpetrators have been young men named Mohammed. Does Tavis think that is a coincidence?

John, George Tiller is dead because his practices were seen as ungodly in the eyes of a radical christian, I know that there are many christians who condemn actions such as this, and that Christianity is not the problem, but it is those who use it for their own purposes!

I am sure that if you counted them up, the number of crazy people that kill for religious reasons, because “God told them too”, stuff like that, there are certainly at least thousands of cases where a Christian killed for religious reasons in this country. We do not hold it against all Christians when a Christian does that, or if a Christian committs suicide, nor do we condemn the entire Catholic Church when disobedient priests molest children. So a blanket condemnation of Islam because a few Islamics believe in killing for the sake of their religion, is unfair and unjustified.

Good point Paul,

If you try and draw a picture of the Islamic prophet, such as maybe some cartoons, you will have some decent riots, possibly killing on your hands. The intimidation works. Just look at Comedy Central, the edited South Parks episode where they had Mohammad. They even freakin edited a part where one of the characters talks about free speech and how we should not bow to intimidation. Although, I will admit that as a private company, CC has a right to edit whatever they feel like. I just think it emboldens the jihadist when they know their threats work.

I have trouble getting Tavis’ outrage. It’s like if someone said “Ted Bundy was a bad guy.” Then someone else jumps in and says, “Oh, yeah? Well, my neighbor cheats on his taxes!” I don’t understand this knee jerk defense of radical Islam.

The killing and terrorizing of abortion doctors is a good example of this. The killing happens because of Christian faith, but nevertheless, those actions do not represent Christianity as a whole.

To take a page from the leftist play book, Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 10:56 am

John, George Tiller is dead because his practices were seen as ungodly in the eyes of a radical christian,”

LOL

So the entire Catholic faith is radical in your view? All 1.14 billion?
Now that is radical!

So by you analogy all Irish people are terrorists (IRA) or all black south Africans (Nelson Mandela) or Colombians (FARC) were terrorist. If you can’t take that, then don’t give me this crap about ”Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim.” or anything similar. Before them it was the Soviets that were the big badies, there’s always a bad group to point at.

huh? How reading the whole statement? “a radical christian” doesn’t equal 1.14 billion Catholics

This guy is so stupid. No real need to comment. He speaks for himself…..

So IRA is a party of one. Do you even know what the IRA stand for! I’m just wasting my time, you sound uninformed.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:18 am

huh? How reading the whole statement? “a radical christian” doesn’t equal 1.14 billion Catholics”

George Tiller is dead because his practices were seen as ungodly in the eyes of a radical christian,”

Catholics are against abortion-

”
May 15, 2009
More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice” for First Time
Also, fewer think abortion should be legal “under any circumstances”
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ — A new Gallup Poll, conducted May 7-10, finds 51% of Americans calling themselves “pro-life” on the issue of abortion and 42% “pro-choice.” This is the first time a majority of U.S. adults have identified themselves as pro-life since Gallup began asking this question in 1995.”

I guess the majority of Americans are now “radicals.”

Kam Fet says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:29 am

So IRA is a party of one. Do you even know what the IRA stand for! I’m just wasting my time, you sound uninformed.”

Yes, IRA- Indiviual retirement Account!

bawaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Dispute the claim that most terrorists are Muslims.

All Catholics do not believe in killing those who different in opinion?

@JohnSimpson
Proved my point. Its easy to point fingers cause everyone seems to be saying it. Open your big mouth and call people Muslims. But when it comes close to you, you are dumbfounded and cant articulate yourself.

differ

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

All Catholics do not believe in killing those who different in opinion?”

That’s NOT what you said!

You said :”George Tiller is dead because his practices were seen as ungodly in the eyes of a radical christian,”

His practice was ABORTION- and the majority of Americans and the Catholic faith are against abortion.

Next!!

Kam Fet says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

@JohnSimpson
Proved my point. Its easy to point fingers cause everyone seems to be saying it. Open your big mouth and call people Muslims. But when it comes close to you, you are dumbfounded and cant articulate yourself.”

LOL

You can’t prove most terrorist attacks are NOT by muslims- you resort to lib name calling!

hahahahha

…I know that there are many christians who condemn actions such as this, and that Christianity is not the problem, but it is those who use it for their own purposes!

Islam is a religion of murder!

Actually there is a difference between the percentage of people who call themselves pro-life and the percentage who want abortion to be illegal. A recent Gallup poll states that 53% of Americans want abortion to be legal in at least some instances.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:40 am

Actually there is a difference between the percentage of people who call themselves pro-life and the percentage who want abortion to be illegal.”

And actually that is not what I posted.

Toshiba2 says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:40 am

…I know that there are many christians who condemn actions such as this, and that Christianity is not the problem, but it is those who use it for their own purposes!”

Oh, no- We are in agreement!

That was the rest of my quote you seemed to overlook!

@JohnSimpson. calling Islam a religion is a slander I know you whatever state of mind you are cannot simply believe. If we were to use the same analogy, then probably Christianity is a religion of Slavery. I don’t know about you, I’d rather be dead rather than to be enslaved.

Kam Fet says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:14 am
“So by you analogy all Irish people are terrorists (IRA) or all black south Africans (Nelson Mandela) or Colombians (FARC) were terrorist. If you can’t take that, then don’t give me this crap about ”Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim.” or anything similar. Before them it was the Soviets that were the big badies, there’s always a bad group to point at.”

LOL…did you read what I wrote? I never said all Muslims were terrorists, far from it. I simply said “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.” At least try and read the comment.

paulmdoro says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:40 am
“Actually there is a difference between the percentage of people who call themselves pro-life and the percentage who want abortion to be illegal. A recent Gallup poll states that 53% of Americans want abortion to be legal in at least some instances.”

The key phrase in that comment/ poll is “…at least in some instances.” Those instances are when the mothers life is in jeopardy. That’s a far cry from believing that terminating the life of an unborn child is the answer to the results of a night of jello shots and apple martinis.

And rape and incest.

@Liberty – Not Redistribution
“Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.” At least try and read the comment”
That is just misleading, if you go to Colombia, they don’t even know what a Muslim is yet they have Terrorist. You sound like those easily mislead by Bush and Cheney. There are almost 1.5 billion Muslims around the world. 99.9% of them are not what you called terrorists. I bet you only got this from W. If 9/11 didn’t happen, what would you have called them. Your claim is so irrational and no fact or statistics can prove it. Your data is pull out from where many of us won’t go.

Kam frothed:
“If 9/11 didn’t happen, what would you have called them. Your claim is so irrational and no fact or statistics can prove it.”

Um….not sure if you know this, but terrorists attacks have happened prior to 9/11. You obviously have had your head up where the rest of us won’t go.

“There are almost 1.5 billion Muslims around the world. 99.9%”

I never said all muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are muslims.

Here is a list of just some of the more major terrorist incidents. Lets see if we can find a common denominator.

March 2002, Israel
Three bombs, independently planned but all timed to coincide with the Passover festival. One hits a Passover dinner at a hotel in Netanya, killing 20 people. Another in Tel Aviv kills 29 and a suicide bomber attacks an Arab-owned restaurant in Haifa and kills 14.

October 12 2002, Bali, Indonesia
Car bombs outside nightclubs popular with foreign tourists kill 202 people, 91 of them Australians. An Indonesian ISLAMIST GROUP with Al-Qaida links is blamed.

October 23 2002, Moscow
Chechen jihadists take over a theatre and hold everyone inside hostage. They later shoot dead several of the hostages. Russian troops use gas to subdue the hostage takers, and kill 50 of them. However, the gas also kills 179 of the hostages.

May 16 2003, Casablanca, Morocco
Five bombs targeted at Jewish and western people in the city kill 41, mostly Moroccans. Six Europeans also die.

May 12 2003, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Suicide bomber attacks on residential compounds inhabited by westerners kills 34 people. AL-QUAEDA blamed.

November 20 2003, Istanbul, Turkey
Truck bomb attacks on the British Consulate and the HSBC bank kill over 60 people, including the British consul general in the city.

March 11 2004, Madrid
Explosions aboard four commuter trains arriving at Atocha station during the morning rush hour. Bombs were in backpacks, and detonated using a mobile phone, killing191 people and injuring 1,800. Spanish government of Jose Maria Aznar at first suggests the Basque separatist group Eta is to blame, but later concedes the attacks were the work of JIHADISTs. Popular anger at being “misled” leads to victory of the opposition at a general election a few days later.

September 1 – 3 2004, Beslan, Russia
ISLAMIST gunmen take over 1,000 hostages, mostly children, at a school in North Ossetia. After a three-day siege many of the hostages are killed in an explosion in the school gym, after which Russian troops storm the building. The final death toll is over 330, many of them children. 800 more are injured.

This is just up to 2004. I haven’t even delved into the 7/7 bombing in London by domestic terrorists…who just so happen to be Muslim, or the Mubai attacks, …..

How many people were killed by the founder of Christianity? Or Bhuddism? Or Islam?

The answer to the first and second questions are the same. The answer to the third is very different

I would love to see leaders of Islam come out strongly and often against terrorism.

I’ve lived and worked among moslems and, like everyone else who isn’t psychotic, they were normal except that they lived in a country that was ruled by a religion. Unless I’m the person being worshiped, I do not ever want to be living in a country ruled by a religion.

“Unless I’m the person being worshiped.”

That is funny. Made me laugh. I love it.

Tavis Smiley is an anti-Christian bigot! None of the violence and crimes he claims were committed by Christians were committed in the name of Christianity. The criminals never quoted Jesus or the New Testament to justify their crimes. Crimes committed by Moslems are committed in the name of Islam, and the Moslem terrorists always quote the Koran and Muhammad to justify the violent, murderous acts.

Kam Fet says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:53 am

@JohnSimpson. calling Islam a religion is a slander I know you whatever state of mind you are cannot simply believe.”

You are one dumb lib.

Islam

Islam (Arabic: الإسلام‎ al-’islām, pronounced [ʔislæːm] ( listen)[note 1]) is the Abrahamic religion articulated by the Qur’an, a text considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of the one, incomparable God (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh), and by the Prophet of Islam Muhammad’s habits and usual practises (in Arabic called the Sunnah, demonstrated in collections of Hadith). Islam literally means “submission (to God).”[1] Muslim, the word for an adherent of Islam, is the active participle of the same verb of which Islām is the infinitive (see Islam (term)).[2][3]

Muslims regard their religion as the completed and universal version of a primordial, monotheistic faith revealed at many times and places before, including, notably, to the prophets Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Islamic tradition holds that previous messages and revelations have been changed and distorted over time.[4

Kam Fet says:
May 28, 2010 at 11:53 am

@JohnSimpson. calling Islam a religion is a slander I know you whatever state of mind you are cannot simply believe. If we were to use the same analogy, then probably Christianity is a religion of Slavery. I don’t know about you, I’d rather be dead rather than to be enslaved.
——————————–

If Christianity is the religion of slavery, which it isn’t, then Islam is also a religion of slavery. Muslims were transporting African slaves back to the Arab states for nearly 1,000 years before Europeans began shipping them to the North and South America. Also, you would also have to say that all religions in sub-Saharan Africa are slave religions as well. They were the ones selling them to Arabs and Europeans. Also, slavery still exists in Africa. So whatever religions those people are currently exposing, mostly Islam, are slave religions.

Tavis Smiley is a tool. He poses as a Christian, which I’m not, I consider myself Agnostic, and uses the language of Christianity to further his own agenda. That agenda being “Progressive” in nature. So, he tries to make some moral equivalency between Christians in our country and the crazed, savage Muslims we are fighting, and who Ayaan has fled to the US to escape.

Are there crazed Christians in our country? Absolutely. But through decades of mocking and ridicule we’ve managed to keep them at the fringes of our society. There has been no similar mocking of Islam. Any attempts to treat Islam the same as Christianity in this country is met with cries of racism and xenophobia by the American left. And that is a shame.

Liberty,
Most Islamics are terrorists? Incorrect. Out of the 1.6 billion Islamics, a tiny fraction support terrorism.

Jabbar,
Of course to suggest that Christians have not killed, fully in the name of their religion, throughout history, is historically inaccurate. Has that been happening recently? Ask the Bosnians.

C’mon, you know that is a ridiculous statement. White does not equal Christian. Smiley’s being kinda racist as well as anti-Christian on this one. Commiting murder or any sin is anathema to Christianity. That’s like a drunk going to rehab, drinking contraband Scotch and then you claiming that rehab endorses getting drunk. “Most Islamics are terrorists? Incorrect. Out of the 1.6 billion Islamics, a tiny fraction support terrorism.” So, say 1% of Muslims, that’s a tiny fraction right? are radical jihadists, so only 16 million people throughout the world want to kill me because I’m not like them. Whew, makes me feel better.

Tony,
The number of Islamics that support terrorism, and killing in the name of Islam is a tiny fraction of the overall Islamic population, otherwise, there would be far more than just the few thousand terrorist attacks we have seen.

Question: Who has killed more people in the last 30 years, Islam or America? America, by far. What do you think the Islamics feel when a drone bomber kills 15 or 20 innocent people?

Tavis is a well know racist and Obama supporter. That explains it all.

Somehow this gives me no comfort or assurance. Presumably Smiley would consider it discriminatory to impede Muslims’ attempts to catch up with Christians in the number of Americans killed.

Suffice it to say that both sides, American and Islamic, have engaged in killing and terror. We assume the other is a monster and therefore do not consider peace. That is the problem.

“They were not only angry at athletes that made fun of them, or Christians, or blacks, as some people have reported; they basically hated everyone except for a handful of people. On the front page of Harris’s journal, he wrote: “I hate the fucking world.” Harris also wrote that he hates racists, martial arts experts, and people who brag about their cars.”

http://history1900s.about.com/od/famouscrimesscandals/a/columbine.htm

Bingo Smiley! You Sir are a Scholar and a Legend in your Own Mind! A Frickin’ Genius!

So Eric Harris hated Blacks AND Racists? Hmm. He Did envoke Jesus and Mother Mary’s name though! Once. Ergo, Harris and Klebold were Obviously Church Goin’ Christian Terrorist Folk.

Get Off The Pipe, Tavis.

@notsofast
You sound smart(not) by your analysing of Islam. Surely if you manage to remove your blond afro and scroll up you would have seen the exchanges between me and Johnson, you would have seen that my error was a typo and a missing word. How can I be debating about Islam and not know what it is. You must really think you are smart yeah! right. Next you would get a black board like MR.Beck and get a show on Fox.

valkyrie101, you seem like a nice guy (or girl), but again, you are substituting a religion with a country. America, though founded on Judeo-Christian values, has no mandated religion, in fact, we go out of our way to remove Christianity from everything government related (e.g the WWI cross memorial) and even infringing upon the private sector. Islamic countries, however, are theocracies. There is no separation between law and religion. You go against Allah, you are breaking the law, and usually death is the punishment. Also, as far as who killed more people, don’t confuse murder with casualties of war. America is in a lot of wars, because we are the only country that has true military might, and we’ve sort of been deemed the World Police. Look up the stats, they’re available anywhere, the biggest threat to moderate Muslims are radical Muslims. If a Christian kills a bunch of people, he is going against the teachings of Jesus who said to love your enemies, and other Christians consider him lost, a murderer now in Hell. When a Muslim kills a bunch of people, he is considered uber-Muslim, pious, a martyr hero now in paradise. I always see that COEXIST bumper sticker where the letters are religious symbols. But Baptists don’t kill Mormons, Epicopalians don’t kill Hindus. Jews and Buddists get along fine. Add Islam to the mix, I’m sad to say, and you get a different dynamic. Also if Christians are doing these terrorist activities, then every single newspaper, network, blog, and news outlet both domestic and abroad are neglecting their duty on reporting it. But, you can’t report on something that doesn’t happen. Cheers.

Maybe you should run for Congress, Tavis. You are as bat-*hit crazy as any of the DemocRATS in the House or the Senate! Complete effing nutcase!!

Dear Tavis Smiley Employees;

I am writing with hope that you will send this letter on to Mr. Smiley. Several weeks ago, he spoke with the author of “Nomad.”

During this conversation, Mr. Smiley said, ““Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is – I could do this all day long. There are so many more examples of Christians – and I happen to be a Christian. That’s back to this notion of your idealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many more examples, Ayaan, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of Muslims who have done that inside this country, where you live and work.”

I would like Mr. Smiley to state his facts. He will not be able to do so because there are no facts to support this statement. It is an incorrect statement. Mr. Smiley is in error. He was wrong. He should apologize and he also should brush up on the Christian faith which he professes to follow.

Mr. Smiley should know that Christianity is _not a birthright – as it is in the Jewish and Muslim communities.

You are _not a Christian by pedigree.

I doubt seriously if the boy who killed people at Columbine High School, the man who blew up the government building in Oklahoma, the rioting thugs in Los Angles, the young girl who murdered her step father, or the young man who recently killed the girl in Peru are professed Christians. Shame on you Mr. Smiley. You really should know better than to make such an irresponsible statement. Christianity has done more good in this world than any other religion in the world because it is based on Love.

Mr. Smiley, don’t you know that to be a Christian, you must profess your faith to believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and recognize that Jesus Christ died for your sins. His message is Love. Not violence. Just because someone is a human being born of human beings that can trace their family pedigrees back to practicing Christians does not mean that the child itself is a Christian. When did you become a Christian, Mr. Smiley? You will remember the day, won’t you? You can not be a Christian and not remember the day. That is because to become a Christian, you have to profess your faith.

When I volunteered in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, I met hundreds of Christians. Maybe there were Muslims helping. I did not see any. Now, as this new gulf coast tragedy unfolds, I see that Christians are the leading groups, helping with their hands, feet and pocketbooks. How many Muslim groups are helping? How many does Mr. Smiley, know about?

I believe Mr. Smiley should take a year off and spend more time exploring his faith and boning up on world history. Obviously, he is out of touch with both.

I have always loved Tavis Smiley but now, I am no longer able to pay attention to him. If he knows so little about the faith he professes to follow, how can I believe him on any other topic?

Mr. Smiley has proven to lack integrity. Alas, another fallen hero.

Best Regards,
Kerrin Winter-Churchill