Are we really re-hashing this topic again? Apparently these NYT fools never get tired of pushing an idea which clearly NO ONE is buying.

And they wonder why they’re going belley up….RIP nyt’s.

NYT is calling someone biased? You can’t make this stuff up. LOL.

Sounds like someone is jealous. I would love to see the NYT start being a watchdog instead of a cheerleader to the administration. that could be a start!
There is no real true journalist anymore coming out of journalism school… They are do indoctrinated by there loony left professors and the main media they have no mind of there own.

The New York Times has been shilling for the far left for ages. Back in the 1930s, they employed propagandist Walter Duranty, who used the Times to praise and glorify Joseph Stalin, a bloody dictator whom the Times adored. Thirty years later, the Times was assuring us that Castro wasn’t a communist, just a freedom fighter, blah, blah, blah. Along the way, the paper defended traitors Julius Rosenberg and Alger Hiss, while smearing the people who tried to tell the truth about them. And now the Times continues to put bias and spin in every issue, censoring stories they dislike, hiding facts, and publishing hit jobs on ideological enemies. As a result, the paper has lost readers, destroyed its credibility, and been implicated in a serious of scandals, involving everything from plagiarism to out-and-out lies.

And this mastermind of the Times dares to offer some smug assessment of Fox, the one media outlet that allows fresh, vigorous presentation of a wide range of ideas without the manipulative censorship that he has practiced during his career. What a joke!

And Raines didn’t laugh once when he was saying this? What self control.

Ladies and gentlemen, in this corner, representing the leftist liberal elite, please give a round of applause for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Associated Press, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, and CNN.

(silence)

AND NOW (rising applause)
IN THIS CORNER, THE CURRENT AND UNDISPUTED CHAMPION…
(storm of applause)
FOX NEWS!!!!
(a crescendo of applause and screams)

I mean, isn’t that the line-up? Does Mr. Raines seriously believe that Pres. Obama, the Democratic Party, and wealthy wine-sipping liberals like himself can’t get their message out? I was unaware that Fox had a monopoly on the news.

Dear Mr. Raines, you and your kind are faded, tired, worn and old. Now go back to your Long Island estate, sit in your rocking chair, and reminisce about the good old days when someone like you actually mattered.

In Raines’ defense, the NYT crossword puzzle is usually interesting.

The Left’s support for the first affirmative action president is cute. The mongrel cur can’t tie his own shoes but orders Air Force 1 to buzz NY and climbs into it at the slightest excuse for a field trip. He never had a job that let him do anything interesting so now he spends his time flying to golf and any meeting he can get out of the country. Once there, he confirms he is an uneducated buffoon by bowing to every dictator he meets but snubs elected presidents and ministers. He’s a worse clown than Mussolini.

Raines: “For the first time since the yellow journalism of a century ago, the United States has a major news organization devoted to the promotion of one political party.”

Really? The last time the New York Times endorsed a Republican for president was Eisenhower in 1952.

Wow where are the libs on this thread?

HA HA HA …

Pot .. Kettle .. Black!!

These “cocooned” journalists live in a parallel universe of their own.. incredible!

Ahhh…yet another Lefty media elite coming along to ‘declare’ what is and isn’t news. These gray-hairs are quite humorous as they flail away at trying to hold onto their once-tight grasp on ‘media.’ Two words: Poor Them.

Olby Sucks says:
March 12, 2010 at 3:58 pm
And they wonder why they’re going belley up….RIP nyt’s.

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Should we go over that long, long, long list of your errors, again. or will it suffice to say daily circulation is 1M+. Sunday 4M+, millions more on-line and millions and millions more services republication? If that’s belly up, FOX must be looking at the NYT’S derriere resting securely on its face.

Why are rightists so scared of the NYT?

We’re not, (White) Royal. We’re mocking it. It’s circling the drain and we’re wishing it Bon Voyage.

I don’t know what the big deal is; he’s simply stating what has been obvious to most people, but I get the feeling from reading some posts that there are those that actually believe that Fox “New” is a news network. Sorry to burst your bubble but Fox “News” isn’t news and never has been; it’s an entertainment network.

Next, I suppose some of you are going to tell me that Glenn Beck, Shawn Hannity and the three morning stooges are real journalists; not that they aren’t funny, just not journalists.

writer – I see your still obsessed with race.

U.S. Newspaper Circulation Falls More Than 10% – NYTimes.com
Oct 27, 2009 … The New York Times’ weekday circulation fell 7.3 percent. … The ad slowdown pushed papers to raise prices to make up some of the loss, driving down sales, … We’ve taken the circulation down very deliberately.” …
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/business/media/27audit.html

Ted, I don’t believe I mentioned race at all in this thread. I refer to Royal as (White) Royal because that’s the way he likes it done. Look at some of his past posts where he takes extra pains to point out the (White) race of those he’s talking about. Those ( ) are his idea. I’m just humoring him.

The only people dumber than the clowns at fox are the morons who watch it. Tell me, are there any Pulitzer Prize winners at fox? Thanks for all the circulation info but, I’d like to know if they have anyone who has won a journalism award? You don’t win awards for ratings or circulation. Idiots!

It seems the biggest experts about what’s on Fox are the same people who claim they won’t watch it.

TRRK, why are you so scared of Beck.

Quit playing this intellectually dishonest game. We oppose the Times because of its political slant. If you want to debate the integrity of the Times, go ahead and do so. But tossing out these cheap shots is a vacuous game anyone can see through.

It is truly funny/ironic/oblivious that this Raines condemnation comes from the man who nurtured and protected the esteemed journalist, the “honest”, “intellectual”, and “trustworthy” Jason Blair. I wonder why this was in the WaPo instead of the Times. They lost credibility years ago and only continue down a rabbit hole of their own digging. My latest favorite was their patent refusal to publish the EAU emails because they were released illegally — yet they had no compunction in providing readers with access to Sarah Palin’s illegally hacked email account. Way to keep the focus.

If the Mexican billionaire Mr. Helu had not invested $250 million dollars in the NYTimes, the company might already be bankrupt.

Now why Mr. Helu do that? Let me hazard a guess. Because the NYTimes is a reliable shill for unlimited Mexican invasion, sorry, immigration into America.

Sort of like that Arab guy who owns a portion of fox news? Oh, and thanks for confirming that FOX HAS NO PULITZER PRIZE WINNERS. Of course when you repeatedly splice in footage of larger demonstrations to claim they’re the teabaggers you pretty much expect that. What you don’t expect is award winning journalism.

More non-award winning journalism from fox courtesy of media matters:

‘Special Report says “social conservatives” were “successful at reshaping textbook standards” in Texas”

And by reshaping they mean, REMOVED THOMAS JEFFERSON from textbooks and replaced him with John Calvin, a religious icon. I suspect that it was Jefferson’s jungle fever that got him removed. He liked the brown sugar! I wonder who’ll be next? Perhaps Mr. Lincoln who freed my people?

So 4M people line bird cages with NYT once a week. Big deal. They are failing–as journalists, and as a business. So Howell Raines, forced out due to poor journalistic quality control at a failing business, wants to take a shot at Fox News–thereby extending is 15 minutes of fame a bit further. Who the hell is he, and why should anyone with half a brain care!

In October 2008, NYT financial performance:
The New York Times Company reported a 51.4 percent decline in third-quarter profit on Thursday and swung to a loss on continuing operations as deeper-than-expected expense cuts could not keep pace with falling revenue.

In October, 2009:
The New York Times plans to eliminate 100 newsroom jobs — about 8 percent of the total — by year’s end, offering buyouts to union and nonunion employees, and resorting to layoffs if it cannot get enough people to leave voluntarily, the paper announced on Monday. The program mirrors one carried out in the spring of 2008, when the paper erased 100 positions in its newsroom…

In November, 2009:
The New York Times News Service will lay off at least 25 editorial employees next year and will move the editing of the service to a Florida newspaper owned by The New York Times Company, the newspaper and the Newspaper Guild said Thursday.

The Pulitzer Prize does not automatically evaluate all applicable works in the media, but only those that have been entered with a $50 entry fee. It’s also for newspaper journalism. That might explain why a cable TV network doesn’t have one.

Thank you writer. The stipulation is as follows:

“Entries for journalism awards may be made by any individual based on material coming from a text-based United States newspaper or news site that publishes at least weekly during the calendar year and that adheres to the highest journalistic principles. Magazines and broadcast media, and their respective Web sites, are not eligible.”

http://www.pulitzer.org/files/entryforms/2010planofaward.pdf

But Roxsy, I still like you. Even when you call me an idiot. Somehow coming from you, it sounds sexy!

God Bless Howell Raines!!! Fox News Channel is the most intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt news organization in America. Fox News programming is a super sized, putrid, steaming pile of excrement and a bottomless cesspool of lies.

Mr. Raines, would you like some cheese with that whine??? Several of your statements in the Washington post come off as self-serving, or distorting the facts. You mention that FN is “conducting a propaganda campaign against the Obama administration” with FN reporting while failing to mention the propaganda campaign FOR the administration conducted by your newspaper(NYT) and ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN. Your paper carries only token, lapdog, muzzled, excuse for a RINO conservatives as columnists(Brooks, et al.). Your paper chooses to cover stories that put conservatives in a bad light, while choosing not to cover stories such as Climategate(and mention Andrew Rifkin, mentioned in the emails) or ACORN embezzlement(the NYT knew about it a year before most everyone else) that might put the left wing in a bad light or question it’s sacred cows. You stifle debate rather than encourage an open exchange of viewpoints and philosophies. The criticisms you level at Fox News, “a style of journalism that is dishonest….untrustworthy….biased…” can be also leveled at your paper as well. Perhaps your readership is down because people are smarter than you think and do not like the content.

to roxsteady
I wonder who is on the board of the Pulitzer Prize. I bet its close to the same people who gave Obama the Nobel Peace prize… That was a well deserved award for nothing.
Pulitzer has become an elitist loony left ego massage award like all the other ones that would never give it to anyone at Fox even if they deserved it.

People who go around and call people who demonstrate free speech (our given American right ) teabaggers and stupied for no reason shows your intelligennce.
I dont care if the far left protest anything, I think it is great to see both sides.
Why are you guys so scared?

daily circulation is 1M+. Sunday 4M+,

by faux rk

More people read Playboy. Did you have a point?

PureFreedom says:
March 12, 2010 at 9:01 pm

Roger Ailes once said in a C-Span Interview that he tells anybody he hires don’t expect to get any awards because we don’t get awards from the rest of the media.

So what does that tell you? And what does that say for the rest of the industry?

This story is nothing but just another rerun. It’s just this week it’s Howell Raines. The Beck protest? Haven’t they tried that before? What’s next week? Falafal reruns about O’Reilly? Hannity hangs with KKK guys?

Like I’ve said before, again & again. Instead of complaining Fox “News” isn’t news and never has been; or they are Idiots! Or the viewers that watch them are morons. etc. etc. etc.

Why can’t the know-it-alls at these higher elite places of media, put on programing that will blow FNC out of the water?

If all they have been able to do is complain and let a bunch of “stooges” beat them in the ratings night after night. Well, who’s the moron? Or Idiot?

There are shows I don’t like on FNC, do I…..Jump up and down and complain? Do I go into fits of wild rage? Do I make statements that aren’t true on blogs? Do I make tired old arguments about the ratings?

Nope.

I just change the channel.

Wow, poor Mr. Raines really got blasted in these comments. Of course it has been the mantra of the right for years now that the media is biased to the left. That was probably true many years ago, but these days the right totally dominates talk radio, and with FOX, they also have a major say on TV. But few of you probably know when the tide began to change for the right, and who its first true sugar daddy was. That would be Reverend Sun Myung Moon, the founder of the Washington Times (the paper that Ronald Reagan said he read, first thing, every day), who has spent, according to him, two billion dollars on right wing causes. The Times has had some hard times lately, but that is where the conservative media revolution began. FOX came on the right wing media scene much later. So all you right wing media lovers, give it up for your daddy.

BTW valkyrie101, the Washington Times continues to break good stories, particularly regarding national security and military affairs. Bill Sammon and Bill Gertz are two excellent reporters who have worked for the Washington Times.

Oh. You meant your reference to be an insult. Sorry I didn’t take it that way.

Not necessarily an insult, azark. I kind of like Reverend Moon.

In 1981 or so, when Moon began the Times, there really was a great imbalance in the media. It is totally true that the NY Times, and most of the national media was far too skewed to the left during that time. Moon did a great service by empowering the right, such that now, as I said, there is much more balance. I consider that a good thing. And as for FOX, if it was just an objective but right leaning news organization I would be quite pleased by that. The problem is, it is not objective. Rather, ala Pat Buchanan, it sees itself as fighting a culture war with no holds barred. As for the NY Times, it deserves what it is getting because it also has been quite unobjective, even mean, for a very long time. An ideal dynamic in news is balance. IMHO.

Olby Sucks says:
March 12, 2010 at 9:46 pm

daily circulation is 1M+. Sunday 4M+,

by faux rk

More people read Playboy. Did you have a point?

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Twit! Playboy comes out monthly. NYT’s figures adjusted for the month would be 30 x the daily. Goodness, vacuousness has found a happy home in California!

Don’t kid yourself. The NY Times is much more influencial than whatever its circulation is. Its still a major icon.

Valkyrie, talk radio is opinion. Not newscasts. NBC’s chairman is Jeffrey Immelt, a liberal Democrat. CBS’ chairman is Robert Iger, a liberal Democrat. ABC’s chairman is Jeffrey Bewkes, a liberal Democrat. I could go on, but Rupert Murdoch of Fox is the only media mogul who is conservative. The majority of the media is still firmly on the left.

Talk radio, which you dismiss, is very significant with tens of millions of listeners per day. Opinion? Mostly yes, but also primarily right wing opinion, to wit: Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage, to name only a few. Rush claims 30 million daily listeners by himself.

And regardless what the political affiliation is of the chairmen ot the networks (you forgot to mention Roger’s affiliation), what counts is what is actually presented on TV. There is no question that FOX is much more blatantly partisan than the other networks. Of course you might disagree. Fine. My original point still holds, however, there is indeed much more balance than in 1981, the year Reverend Moon began the Washington Times, when there was verty few national right wing media outlets.

You mean like when Dan Rather went with that story about Bush in the Air Guard before all the facts were in? As for talk radio, the market place decides. That’s why Air America went down the drain. And it’s odd that the left thinks Rupert Murdoch’s conservatism infects his network, yet somehow the liberals running the others are above all that, and would never let their political views creep into their broadcasts.

Yes, like Dan Rather. Good example. Or like recently when FOX began reporting that Obama intends to put people in internment camps, or that he intends to ban sport fishing, or that Obama is a communist – I mean fascist – I mean socialist, or Beck scheduling a whole hour with Massa before looking into it, or too many other examples to mention.

As for radio, yes, the market does decide. But that is not the issue we were discussing. The right continues to argue that media is dominated by liberals and I was pointing out that talk radio, with tens of millions of daily listeners, is in fact dominated by conservatives. Radio is media, significant media.

Talk radio is dominated by conservatives because the liberals had their own shows and no one was listening.
Advertisers aren’t going to sponsor a dead horse. The MSM…CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the New York Times, the L.A. Times, and so on, are left wing. And again, Beck is an opinion show, not a newscast, in the same way that the far left rantings of Keith Olbermann are opinion, not news.

The liberals, who are mostly younger people, do not usually listen to radio, other than their local rock and roll or oldies station. Most liberals, or as we like to be called now “progressives” do not get their news from the radio, or even too much from TV, rather, they get it from the Huffington Post or otherwise on-line. Yes, my 80 year aunt loves Rush, but my forty something brother listens to Howard Stern.

The fact remains, conservatives have significant media outlets for their news or commentary. The notion that the media is dominated by liberals is a myth.

Rubbish. You’re lying to yourself. Please stop!!! It’s NOT healthy. Use LOGIC. Don’t force your mind to believe such irrational pollution. It clouds the mind! Walk towards the light, also known as, TRUTH

Could you be more specific? Lying that talk radio (listened to by tens of millions of people) is mostly conservative? Lying that liberals, as a class, tend to be younger than conservatives and mostly do not listen to talk radio of any kind? Lying that young people tend to get their news from the internet? Lying that the notion of liberal media dominance is a myth?

If you go back to the beginning on this, I pointed out that in 1981 when the Washington Times came on the scene, the liberals DID dominate media. Clearly you will admit that the situation has dramatically improved for conservatives since then. Right? I mean even on the internet there are numerous conservative news sites, e.g. Drudge, Newsmax, etc. It seems to suit the conservatives to tell themselves, and everyone else that the media is dominated by liberals, but objectively speaking, that is not the case. And Rush with his 30 million daily listeners, or Drudge, who maintains the most popular news site on the internet (not to mention Fox News, the most popular cable news network) would have to agree.

Valk, you get your news from the Huff Post and you worry about conservative bias? Ooooookkaaaayyyy.

Actually I am fond of Drudge too. Does that meet with your approval? And i love reading the Washington Times. It is impossible to get a full perspective of any issue without balancing sources.

Not up to me to grant approval. Just sayin’, Huff Po isn’t known as a bastion of fairness.

I have eight news sources that I go to, and Huff is one of them. Mediate another, etc. Is Huff Post progressive? Yep. Is Drudge conservative? Yep. I would say that Drudge is less righteous, less objective than Huff Post, however. IMHO