My God! we are going to be hearing more 9/11 stories again.

This joker has no shame.

Rudy could be a tough opponent for Obama. He’s moderate enough to entice independents, and charismatic enough to battle Obama’s charm. Additionally, he’s got good experience, and knows what he’s talking about. Team him with a charismatic and youthful VP, and Obama could be in real trouble.

That is… if Rudy decides to run a campaign this time, unlike in ’08, when he gave up before the race began!

ImNotBlue said:
Rudy could be a tough opponent for Obama. He’s moderate enough to entice independents, and charismatic enough to battle Obama’s charm. Additionally, he’s got good experience, and knows what he’s talking about. Team him with a charismatic and youthful VP, and Obama could be in real trouble.

That is… if Rudy decides to run a campaign this time, unlike in ‘08, when he gave up before the race began!

Judging from his 2008 performance, I’d say Rudy! is not likely to be able to survive the Republican nominating process, Kumquat. If we were able to, he’d be the strongest opponent President Obama would have, as you very capably suggest. Of course, he does have a great many skeletons in his closet, including not only his own Tomcattery, but also the Kerik matter.

You’re also correct about the 2008 campaign. Dreadful.

The Real Royal King said:
Judging from his 2008 performance, I’d say Rudy! is not likely to be able to survive the Republican nominating process, Kumquat. If we were able to, he’d be the strongest opponent President Obama would have, as you very capably suggest. Of course, he does have a great many skeletons in his closet, including not only his own Tomcattery, but also the Kerik matter. You’re also correct about the 2008 campaign. Dreadful.

That was a lot of words to simply say, “Yes, INB, I agree with your assessment.”

Did he make it through the interview without mentioning/invoking 9/11? That would be a feat of the highest order!

ImNotBlue said:
That was a lot of words to simply say, “Yes, INB, I agree with your assessment.”

Thank you, Kumquat. I am pleased to learn I have at my call “a lot [sic] of words.” A large working vocabulary is a key predictor of intelligence. Being a polyglot is a sign of genius.

ImNotBlue said:
Rudy could be a tough opponent for Obama. He’s moderate enough to entice independents, and charismatic enough to battle Obama’s charm. Additionally, he’s got good experience, and knows what he’s talking about. Team him with a charismatic and youthful VP, and Obama could be in real trouble. That is… if Rudy decides to run a campaign this time, unlike in ‘08, when he gave up before the race began!

So after all this talk of bringin Obama down in 2012 you are making a case for Rudy Guliani? LOL.

He’s done before he gets started. I doubt he’ll even get a VP nod.

Wanna get the left really frothing at their nasty little mouths?

Palin/Jindal 2012.

skyfet said:
This joker has no shame.

And you- no brain.

I’m still waiting for your answer on how saying someone was born in another country or pals around with terrorists is racist, son.

Harry Flashman said:
Wanna get the left really frothing at their nasty little mouths?

Palin/Jindal 2012.

That would be fucking hysterical! I love it!

I have a question about campaign financing. When someone enters a campaign, and raises millions of dollars , then later when they are not viable and they drop out, what happens to all the money they raised?

I’m wondering if the laws encourage people who really have no chance , to jump in and raise a bunch of money?

notsofast said:
And you- no brain.

I’m still waiting for your answer on how saying someone was born in another country or pals around with terrorists is racist, son.

I didn’t call anyone racist, was just responding to your quote. You said he was complaining about the crowds reaction, I just gave you the substance/context that may have contributed to the crowds behavior. I don’t do race story, it’s not an issue for me, most of you that dwell on it are misguided.

The Real Royal King said:
Being a polyglot is a sign of genius.

So anyone with an iphone then .

skyfet said:
You said he was complaining about the crowds reaction,

Never said that, and the you raised the subject of race-baiting and you said “Well, unless in the case of the GOP/Tea party, who love to race bait,….” and then said to me, “You remember the birthers, palling around with terrorists and the reactions of the crowd. ”

Well, son show me why that is racist or race-baiting.

You said it in regard to race-baiting, a topic YOU injected into the conversation, son.

Stop your lying, son.

The Real Royal King said:
Thank you, Kumquat. I am pleased to learn I have at my call “a lot [sic] of words.” A large working vocabulary is a key predictor of intelligence. Being a polyglot is a sign of genius.

False. An obnoxious vocabulary is simply the sign that you spend $19.99 on a thesaurus.

Either way, I didn’t comment on your vocabulary… rather, just on your wordiness. To quote Shakespeare, “Brevity is the soul of wit.”

valkyrie101 said:
So after all this talk of bringin Obama down in 2012 you are making a case for Rudy Guliani? LOL.

Huh? I have never said beating Obama in 2012 would be, or will be easy. In fact, I believe the opposite. It’s going to be a tough fight… but not impossible. The candidate has to have a few key features, if they hope to gain any kind of traction.

Rudy, I believe, could do that… but only if he runs a smart campaign. His previous campaign was awful… but with a new management team, it could be very interesting.

Would Rudy be too moderate for the tea party supporters? Won’t he have a difficult time aligning conservative Republicans with more moderate GOPers? And where do people think he went wrong in 2008 and what would have have to do differently to beat Obama in 2012?

ImNotBlue said:
Rudy, I believe, could do that…

The man is a political slug.

paulmdoro said:
Would Rudy be too moderate for the tea party supporters? Won’t he have a difficult time aligning conservative Republicans with more moderate GOPers? And where do people think he went wrong in 2008 and what would have have to do differently to beat Obama in 2012?

I think the more (or most) Conservative members might have a problem with him… but not impossible. Remember, the Tea Party mostly focuses on lower taxes and such, and Rudy would be on board for that. His social moderate stance wouldn’t necessarily hurt his Tea Party cred, but wouldn’t leave him favored by too many far-right groups either. However, at the end of the day, when the pick is between him and Obama (or if the pick is between him and Obama) the choice is easy… and I’d be inclined to believe that even those who didn’t love him, would rather him, than Obama.

As for his 2008 campaign, it never seemed like he was into it. He just didn’t seem to try to hard… almost like he believed he was going to get the nomination, so he didn’t have to work for it. Either that, or he (smartly) saw the future, realized that Obama was going to be near impossible to beat, and would fare better if he waited a little. Either way, the campaign just never seemed to have any momentum.

valkyrie101 said:
The man is a political slug.

Yes yes, anyone on the right is terrible. Just wait a year before ya’ll start calling him (or whomever the nominee is) a “racist.”

Heck, we should all start a calendar pool to see when the first mainstream attack of “racism” comes out. Shouldn’t take very long.

I’m thinking more about his chances of securing the GOP nomination and not his chances of beating Obama in the election. It seems like Rudy’s best chance was in 2008, when he was still very popular nationwide. His time may have passed. The GOP seems like it’s all about Palin and the tea party and fresh faces like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal, and not so much the older guard like Rudy and Romney and even Huckabee.

I think Rudy should just stop his presidential ambitions. He would be a great AG, but I just don’t see him as POTUS.

paulmdoro said:
The GOP seems like it’s all about Palin and the tea party and fresh faces like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal, and not so much the older guard like Rudy and Romney and even Huckabee.

The Dims are wasting too much energy on SP. I like her as a voice that speaks out on Conservative issues but don’t see her as a serious presidential candidate. She would be an interesting RNC chairwoman.

notsofast said:
The Dims are wasting too much energy on SP. I like her as a voice that speaks out on Conservative issues but don’t see her as a serious presidential candidate. She would be an interesting RNC chairwoman.

I was speaking about her place and influence in the GOP and not suggesting that she is running for president. Just for the record. It seems like the GOP has moved on from Rudy and that he isn’t the force he once was in the party. He seems to have peaked.

ImNotBlue said:
Yes yes, anyone on the right is terrible. Just wait a year before ya’ll start calling him (or whomever the nominee is) a “racist.” Heck, we should all start a calendar pool to see when the first mainstream attack of “racism” comes out. Shouldn’t take very long.

No, he is not even on the Republican radar screen. He is not appealing. Even Sarah would eat his lunch.

Tee Hee.

Rudy is a strong regional politician, but has little or no national appeal. Exploiting 9/11 will not win him favor with conservatives and he has no other cards to play.

Much to the chagrin of Mr. Giuliani, and many New Yorkers, this nation does nor revolve around New York–such has been the northeastern elitist point of view for decades. It has been an error on their part. That said, were I in Mr. Giuliani’s shoes, I would pack it in on entertaining any such notions.

Don’t count my vote!