Eric Holder ran the Waco and OK City Cover-ups .  He’s long overdue for prison!
_________________________________________
The Obama Banda Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Badges!

The Obama Banda pretended they didn’t know
That ATF was buyin’ A.K.s at each gun show
But it’s an indisputable fact
They violated the Arms Export Control Act
Selling guns to Drogas Cartell in ol’ Mexico.

The Arma Vendedor knew things were out of sorts
So they called up the ATF to file reports
ATF said “Let the sales go thru”
But in their gut, the sellers knew
ATF would betray, and they’d take it in the shorts!

But a couple of honest ATF agents balked
So Holder had these Desilusionados stalked
‘Cause he knew this EPIC FAIL
Could put the Obama crew in jail
If they went before the Congress and they talked!

Now they pressure the Yankee Prensa to ignore
This pre-meditated, covert act of border war,
But forty thousand dead a year
Is what Americans need to hear
So we can fill Guantanamo with Obama’s Arma Corredor!

Now Holder has a pack of subpoenas he has to gag
‘Cause they no longer have Congress in the bag
So they’ve come up with a plan
To blame the whole thing on Iran
And use it to justify an election year false flag.

It’s time for American peons to gather torch and pike
To hang these traitors, not protest or general strike!
One thing history doesn’t hide
Is Disarmament precedes Genocide
So get the ropes before they establish their Fourth Reich!
______________________
Charles Ulysses Feney

Just for pushing the Rich pardon alone, Holder should never have gotten the job.

Damaged goods that got way worse the more shifty moves that Holder has pulled.

.That’s how you treat them silly republican bastards up on the hill.

Brialliant

Idaho or wherever.  For the liberal elite, they are all just “flyover states.”  Too bad for Eric Holder that those flyover states will determine the November election. 

Right Gloves and I’ll add he’s the racist in charge of the DOJ.  He has a chip on his shoulder that Paul Bunyon couldn’t knock off.  What is with these “educated liberal black men”.  So angry, so hateful and so bold in their attacks on everyone but themselves.

Holder’s ready to Go Postal…they’re getting to him.

Keep it up, Idaho.

Maybe Raul Labrador can tell us how he feels about Republican governor Haley Barber pardoning four vicious killers and many others who had ties to power and wealth in Mississippi.

Mediaite at its finest. They have been ignoring this story for months because it makes Obama look bad. The family of the slain border officer just sued the DOJ 25 million dollars and no mention. No mention of all the proof that Holder lied about when he found out about this murderous scandal, no contempt for all the Friday evening data dumps this administration is famous for. Yet when Holder goes on the offensive (ridiculously I might say) Mediate finally reports it. Surprised Tommy (whats his real name) Christopher didnt report on this its such liberal bias.

This idea of the “liberal elites” sure gets bandied around much more than the Left calling red states “flyover states.” Growing up in the south and living in the northeast, I’ve seen firsthand that there are stupid biases from both sides. But it’s the Right that keeps trying to paint the Obama administration as elitists, when the GOP loves Romney (a rich Mass gov) and the Bushes (a wealthy family originally from Conn who pretend to be ranchers). It’s hard to imagine people more from the “elite” than those groups.

If the “non-elites” decide the election for the GOP, then they’ll be voting for another rich elitist come November.  

If ever there was a incompetent fool that desperately needed firing, it’s Holder. He’s one, of a long list of incompetent appointments by the “incompetent in charge”, that hired this idiot!

I have read a number of articles on fast and furious on this site.  Does every site need to read like Fox Nation in order to be considered objective?

He is a liability.  Get rid of him.

Hopefully, Congress will stay on top of this idiots until he’s forced out. Then they can look at the head of ICE, and Napolitano. Two more morons that need to be fired.

I am glad Holder stood up to this Tea Party hack from Idaho. There are mistakes that have been made by his department, but as long as Congress is not interested in getting the facts out to the public he has every right to  defend his character.

‘Maybe This Is The Way You Do Things In Idaho Or Wherever You’re From’

Raúl Labrador is from Puerto Rico. I’m sure there was no racist intention in Holder’s disparaging comment.

Way to go Mr. Holder.  It was great to see you put that uppity teabagger in his place.

It’s true. Many Republicans abhor classical music.

Even though it’s may not be what he was implying, could you imagine a Republican telling a native-born Puerto-Rican or any other minority to go back to “wherever you’re from”? Oh, the outrage and scandal the racist Republican’s comments would create.

Wellll, Idaho-ian isn’t exactly a race. It really falls more into the category of when you’re trying to yell your kid’s name and every other name, including the dog’s comes out and you finally say, “whatever your name is”. 

Y’know, if we start getting rid of morons, they need to start with the voters who elect and re-elect them. Both parties.

What got Holder so upset?

Raúl Labrador cobbled together testimony from Holder going back ten years to establish
a “pattern” of Holder saying, in effect, “I don’t know” in testimony.

I have the same problem! When you come from a large state on one of the coasts, all those little states in the middle tend to run together! Now I live in NM and have to remind people, especially on the East Coast that we are really part of the US.

Only a liberal like James Crugnale would create a headline like that.

Imagine if a white Republican said to a black Democrat, “Maybe this is the way you do things in Baltimore/Detroit/Birmingham…”

I doubt a liberal like James Crugnale would call that “chewing out” a Democrat.

What a prima donna.  How dare Congress question this hero.  He’s above approach.  If you question his patriotism you are a racist and/or from some part of the country he’s never heard of or cared about before.

To a liberal elitist it may as well be.  I’m surprised he even knew Idaho was a state.  Obama hadn’t even bothered to learn how many states are in the union, and he’s the President!   To elitists only the major mega cities matter.  Everything else is hickville.

Wait, so a black, hack politician, disrespects an Hispanic politician and I’m supposed to say that the Hispanic politician is wrong and probably racist? Is this one of those situations were liberals compartmentalize people, by their views on abortion, to ensure that their heads don’t explode when trying to decide who to hate?

Nice: Sérgio Mendes, Brasil 66.
Love that Album.

Does this mean someone can tell Holder to go back to Hell, or wherever he’s from? I think so.

Holder,” I think that I’ve done a pretty good job”. Just ask the Terry Family.

If this guy had any shame he’d have resigned months ago.

This guy’s as corrupt as they come!

Remember, he’s the one who arranged for Marc Rich to purchase his freedom with a contribution to the Clinton Library.
ISSA – This guy (like his boss) will LIE about anything!

WHERE IS THE MEDIA?
Can you imagine the negative media coverage if this was Bush’s Administration?

Hold both the Media and Holder in Contempt, because both are contemptible!

WOW — Mediaite is working overtime to really pimp for the DNC today.
They must’ve gotten a big check in the mail to toss up this headline!

LOL — I love that it reads: “AG Eric Holder Chews Out GOP Rep: ‘Maybe This Is The Way You Do Things In Idaho Or Wherever You’re From’” to make it sound like HE was the wrongfully offended party and that HE was the righteous person who then put that darn GOP Rep back in his place…

…when the REAL TRUTH is, at the hearing, Holder got his ass completely handed to him. Not to mention he managed to dig an even deeper grave for his career by stonewalling the release of information yet again. But, hey, why toss up a headline that’s actually accurate when instead you can push the DNC party line to carry water for Obama a little more?

As for Holder, he’s dirty. Or dumb. Or more likely, he’s actually both. But for being the total disaster that he’s been, he’ll be gone soon — otherwise he (and the whole Fast and Furious story) is going to be a big weight around Obama’s neck come November, when more details about JUST how much Holder screwed up and JUST how much he then covered things up are all but guaranteed to get leaked by someone behind the scenes, one way or another.

Holder schooled that slimey knuckle-dragging neanderthal wingnut.

Name one thing that was unfactual about Labrador’s video presentation.

Holder is sweating bullets.  The news that two of his prosecutors accepted bribes in a major corruption investigation is about to explode into the mainstream media:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/01/bribery-compromised-officials-leave-indicted-financial-crime-suspects-free-from-prosecution-under-holders-doj/

ahhh  Holder was just getting pissy with him because being a Puerto Rican he considers him to be an Uncle Tomas…

Knock it off, Francis…Scott Key.

LOL. That was an excellent evisceration. He did it calmly too. No raised voice or anything…haha. 

“You should respect the fact that I hold an office that is deserving of respect.”

– Attorney General Eric Cartman

Cutting together pieces of conversations are not facts ,but commercials.

Ummm…you obviously can not read or understand the English language. He never told him “to go back” wherever he had come from. He said that that (dishonest, distorting presentation) was probably what he did where he hailed from. 

Holder is racist, I knew he hated whites, but i didn’t know he hated Latinos. 

Yeah…such a prima donna he has appeared in front of congress 3X to answer the same f#cking questions and face the same witch-hunt allegations.

He clearly stated he was NOT infallible, Holder has done a good job as AG. Maybe you should look at all he has done to prevent domestic terrorism….for example. 

This was discussed during his confirmation. Only an issue to demagogues. 

I totally agree with you. That swamp needed to drained a long time ago.

It doesn’t sound like the congressman had much respect for the Attorney General.  Don’t be playing the race card now.  

And he has yet to answer those questions.  Its all attacking the messenger, I don’t recall, I can’t tell you…

 You do realize that Fast & Furious  was begun under Bush.

Holder got caught lying to congress and we get aheadline like this?

bwahahaha

Dan must be so proud.

Honestly, I can’t stop laughing that this is mediate’s lead from this story.

bwahahahaha  hohohohoh  hahahahaha hehehehehe

 Right…Those flyover states voted Republican in the last election with the exceptions being Colorado and New Mexico. Even if those two voted Republican this time Obama would still win.

I think that Governor Barber (Republican) should be in jail.  A also think that the attorney general is lying through his teeth and should Democrat Eric Holder. 

Are you in prison somewhere? If you don’t support the laws of this country then you are a fool. Holder has locked the records of the dead border patrol agent killed by his incompetence.  The crappy media doesn’t bother to report that these guns killed an estimated 200 to 300 innocent Mexicans including women and children.

Moron.  Nice try.

People from Idaho are not Holder’s “people”.  Whether he supports Black Panthers with clubs standing outside of polling stations or black people who kill white police officers he has shown to be once again to be the most vile racist.

Holder works for the people of the United States not the other way around.  You need to seriously open your eyes, the media is playing you for a fool.

You need to understand that the idea that liberals are elitist is not based on some myth or misconception. It is based on the obvious fact that liberal politicians work to centralize power in their hands.  It is based on their insistence on running a nanny state in which they dictate to citizens how to run their lives.  It is based on their clear track record of taking power away from the states and centralizing in the hands of the federal government. 

This is all patently obvious.   The liberals aren’t elites because conservatives like to “bandy about” with namecalling, but is a clear reflection of the way the liberal power structure actually acts — and has acted for more than a half-century.

If the Left wants to get rid of its reputation as elites, they need to quit trying to control every bloody decision in this country from their power bases in NY and DC.   And when they do that, I will be the first to applaud the decision and quit calling them out on their elitism.

The only thing Idaho has going for it is that you can get out through the pan-handle in less than an hour.  The only problem is that you end up in Eastern Washington.  Both should be driven through at night.

Attorney General Eric Holder told the House Oversight Committee today that rather than being asked to resign, “Perhaps I deserve some credit,” for Fast and Furious. .http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WLeLYRp4g2o

It must be reassuring to OTHER armed, cop-killing pedophiles with Messiah complexes that the conservatives on “Mediaite” will rally to their support as Charles Ulysses Feney did for Dave Koresh.

–Cobra

cartoonist, illustrator, singer, songwriter, i.e. LOSER.

And your post proved that you are…?

LOL

POT MEET KETTLE

He has. You not liking the answers does not mean he has not answered them. 

Sure. That’s what Judge Napolitano (or one of his friends) told you but it is in no way based on empirical evidence. Take the Rio Grande Valley in Texas, which is something like 90 percent Hispanic and roughly the size of the United Arab Emirates. It’s solidly Left, and yet one of the poorest parts of the nation. Is that “elitist”? Have you ever been to a working class New England town? People there work blue collar jobs and yet vote Democrat down the line. They don’t do it because they are trying to “control every bloody decision in this country.” That’s just what their political opponents tell you is happening. They’re supporting the party that they think will give them a fairer shake through regulations meant to level the already drastically tilted playing field. 

And just so you know where I’m coming from, I absolutely agree some regulations are overly burdensome and stupid. I absolutely think many in the Democratic Party are corrupt. I’ve grown up working class and I’ve also been among the wealthy in NY and DC and I’m not rich at all. The “elitist” Liberal is more caricature than real, although I know a few who could fit that description. I understand frustration against the Democrats. I just think (1) most of what the Republican talking heads say is a lie (2) you can’t solve the problem by deregulating everything and (3) Limbaugh & co have every incentive to scare you or try to piss you off because they want you to vote in an uneducated fashion. 

To back up the third point, I can say this. If Limbaugh & the other talking heads had more legitimate complaints about the president, they wouldn’t have to keep going back to these ultimately petty and ridiculous snipes about him being an elitist Muslim Black Panther Kenyan, etc. Why can’t they actually discuss his policies in detail rather than demagogue? Because they’re not interested in being factually correct. They have an agenda.

Yes, that’s why he appeared in front of a partisan panel ANYWAY. Yawn. 

That’s actually interesting.  It’s a slow news month, so maybe it will make a splash, but I’m not crossing my fingers.

Message to Eric Holder:

Start indicting former members of the Bush Administration for War Crimes and give those stupid, ignorant, thumb up their ass Republicans a real reason to hate you!!

I didn’t say that poor Democrat voters are elitist.  But people like Eric Holder, who want to concentrate power in their own hands, at the expense of the states and individuals are clearly elitist. 

I repeat, if Democrat politicans don’t want to be called elitist, they need to stop trying to centralize power in their hands, and restrict decision-making in the 50 states.  They need to stop running a nanny-state.  They need to stop trampling on individual rights.  Until then, they have earned the label, and won’t be able to avoid it.

I don’t think he’s gay or necessarily uppity.

Just how many civilians have to die at the hands of “The Justice Dept.” before you are concerned.
Those 81 people would not have been murdered if they just stopped clinging to their guns and bibles right….?
As far as the pedophilia thing goes we will have to take your word for it as all of the 25 children died in the horrible fire.
I did not include the babies of two women who were pregnant because I’m sure you don’t think they matter.

Cheney…first up

Big time!!

Holder is gay. 

Andy m_mayem is gay as well.  He has written is several times.

Halliburton as co-conspirators.

Actually I have been in prison…Funny you would ask that.

Also this senator is out of line, he went to Honduras trying to uphold a regimen that took out a legal president of this nation, he is also a racist like you, I am a white southern red neck and Tim you are full of it 

you all writers are a bunch of racist, bigots 

Troy is a guilt ridden liberal.

That’s exactly what it was.  He thought he was from Idaho but wasn’t sure what state he represented.

sure Tim we are so liberal that we are active supporters of Ron Paul, that is stupidity to the max

And you have almost no grasp of how to construct a sentence.

So maybe you aren’t aware, but typing out laughs like that makes you come across as an idiot.

love how you try and flip the responsibility onto the govt., and off of David Koresh.. real clever! What happen to personal responsibility? 

Hey mediaite, why dont you balance this biased article out with an article about Mrs. Terry;s opinion of Holder ie; 
THIS IS FOR YOU SON,” Mrs. Terry posted on Facebook at about 3:30 p.m. “Mr. Holder. How come you can never say my sons name. You never have. All i ever hear you say is ‘i didnt find out or I cant say’ Im actually tired of hearing your double talk in answering questions. What a joke you are. You know my son was a real AMERICAN, a WARRIOR, and a HERO, who was also protecting COWARD POLITICANS like you.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/02/brian-terrys-mother-to-holder-youre-a-joke-and-a-coward/#ixzz1lI231mMX

yes indeed! Thats where they f’d up! They didn’t do it off the bat, when they came in and got taken for suckers! Now they are stepping all over them with these trumped up BS investigations on Holder, Acorn, Planned Parenthood and all the rest of their witch hunts. I clearly remember how AG Alberto Gonzalez used to deal with the congress HA! . Dems need more balls IMO! 

WORD!

Halliburton, Kellogg, Brown & Root and the rest of the Cheney connection and misc. scum bags that profited from the deaths of tens of thousands . That’s what burns me up the most, that half of these fake ass “patriots” nowadays, (AKA baggers) are the ones that were calling people “anti” american for not supporting the prez with the wars, and not supporting his corruptions and out of control spending. But… viola, add a democrat. in the white house and they magically become anti govt. budget hawks..  Its so cute! like GOPGremlins. 

“I‘m proud of the work that I’ve done as attorney general of the United
States, and looked at fairly, I think that I’ve done a pretty good job.”

The only possible explanations for Holder’s statement are serious dementia or deliberate prevarication.

What Holder said was….. “maybe this is the way you do things in Idaho or wherever you’re from”

But somehow in your head that gets turned around into Holder telling a MINORITY “to go back to wherever you”re from”, and making it a racial incident the republicans would have suffered outrage and scandal over.

How exactly does that happen?  It’s amazing how you CVS sufferers can take anything and turn it into a situation where conservatives are victims.

In this case you lie about what Holder said, then imagine a republican saying it, then “voila!” instant conservative victim.

First of all, keep him out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it’ll kill him. Second, don’t give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. Gremlins 1984

It wasn’t about Fast & Furious.  What does  Bill Clinton  have to do with that ?

 Funny…I don’t see what you are referring to….Is is the usual “racist” charge?
I guess you have to be one to see one.

Raul should have presented facts about Fast & Furious.  He doesn’t have any.  If you don’t have any facts, you don’t have any evidence and you are wasting everyones time.  You also look stupid.

Nice defense of Holder!

Well, yah, everything is hicksville! What’s your point?

I really do know where Idaho is, it’s that state up by Canada that is home to all the “unabomber” wannabes.

Wanna bet ?

Rich wasn’t a murderer or anything, and your outrage is apparent, so you must be really really mad at Haley Barbour for his pardoning of several convicted murderers. Do you call for Barbour to step down as Gov of Mississippi?

Gee, where’s the outrage about the dead soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Shame that Fast’n'Furious style programs were started under George Bush, or your little rap song might make even the slightest sense.

I’m sorry…what was he charged with…?

wow … it takes a really obsessed person to write a poem about Holder.

RAAAcists. Holder hates Cubans and Puerto Ricans, or where ever they’re from. If G W Bush had said this, or one of his flunkies, the Media would have screamed for impeachment!  At least Watergate had no body count, unlike the Clinton and Obama body counts. [Ruby Ridge, Waco], and now Gunwalker.

 Read it again, Moron.

  BarryHu is an Idiot.

 the good ole days
Gonzales aide to invoke Fifth Amendment

 like this guy?
Gonzales aide to invoke Fifth Amendment

 Imagine if you had a clue.

 nice comeback
full of facts

 Moron

wow
You guys (and I) are old

 Republicans know these things

  cartoonist, illustrator, singer, songwriter, I am a LOSER.

FIFY

Too late.  Too many lead paint chips as a child.  That is why she is incapable of pointing out why she is laughing about this lede:

During a hearing Thursday over the Fast and Furious scandal, Attorney General Eric Holder lit into GOP Congressman Raul Labrador, after hedisplayed slides depicting statements Holder made about President Bill Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich. 

I blame global warming for her not having to have had her mittens pinned to her vest this winter.

Don’t talk so loose!

I do like your avatar.

However, “BS investigations?”  You know perfectly well every one of those investigations were legitimate and still are.  Even the birther issue was “legitimate” as there was/is just enough credence to make the investigation necessary.

Anytime, an elected or appointed public official stonewalls an investigation, meaning deception by omission, only brings on more suspicion.  Except, of course, for demagogic supporters.

LONGKNIVE, are YOU a “demagogic supporter?”

As for Gonzalez, “two wrongs don’t make a right.”  Pointing to someone else’s misdeeds as an excuse, is a poor excuse.

I’ll be keeping an eye on you. Ouch!

Purveyor 

At least that read well and had a point.

I THINK, you are suggesting that America’s current problems come from corruption, on both sides of the aisle?  The word “corruption” in this instance can mean official, duplicitous “corruption” as well as the plain ole, lazy, “we’ve always done it that way,” “corruption.”

Either way, I agree with such an assessment.  However, since Obama took office America’s fiscal condition worsened, to put it mildly, and his foreign policy is one of passivity in a violent land scape.  (Yes, he did get Bin Laden)  Meaning he is a man of appeasement surrounded by enemies who view such as weakness.

Purveyor

A man who can quote from the movie “Gremlins?”  

I’ll bet you go to “Star Trek” conventions, and dress up as Worf?

It will nevr happen Jeff – this is a very newsy part of the story – tht and the fact that Holder has been caught lling – and mediaite puts up a headline about how Holder cornered a republican representative and took him down.  Nothing about Holder’s lies, nothing about Holder’s and the DOJ illegal acts – just that Holder stood up to a republican.

This makes Holder the hero to the left; to hell with the agent – it is clear the author of this piece could care less about the dead agent – nope, Holder is the hero the dead guy is just a second thought (or third, or fourth….).  This is what the media has become today – news gets shoved aside if it reflects poorly on Obama and his team.

Sad, so sad.

Have you ever been to Idaho?  Or Eastern Washington, for that matter?

The Coeur d’ Alene area ia a National Treasure.  But, you aren’t at home in the outland, are you?  You’ve probably never swung an axe, plowed snow, actually needed a stout knife or fired a weapon, have you?  But, people who have done these things are anathema to you, correct?

Anyway, the “pan handle” is about 90 miles and the roads are circuitous.  Most people would find the scenery beautiful, except you, of course.  If you do decide to go for a ride, head East, maybe Amsterdam would be be your cup-o-tea.  Ouch!

Purveyor

What a pompous, arrogant thing to say by Holder, the Soro’s Soldier of Socialist Schemes.  A true Marxist Elitist and member of the Ruling Class.  Time for you to go Eric, back to the island nation from where you came. 

Your above comment is another fine example of your intellect.

Question:

If, all A’s are B’s and C is an A, then C is…

Go ahead, solve the syllogism, redeem yourself and your intellect.

Oh, and you win a cookie if you can tell us whether this is inductive or deductive reasoning?

Purveyor

Quote:

“Chews out holder?”  

As far as “chewing out” goes that was fairly tepid, then again that is Holder’s demeanor.  I also considered the “insipid” to describe Holder, but, I would be venturing into ad hominem and I’d rather not.

Two salient cases regarding Holder that EVERY American should agree on that were mishandled, are the Black Panthers in front of the polling place in Philadelphia.  Also, the Fast and Furious, gun sale case we are currently discussing.

Both of these cases are an affront to every American and demonstrates gross malfeasance, not just incompetence, on Holder’s part.  Every one of us should demand he resign.  That issues as blatantly un-American as these, and we citizens cannot agree upon, is chilling.

By way of neutral principles, I can usually assess situations like this with objectivity, regardless, Holder has, in front of God and Country, offended all our sensibilities as Americans.

Purveyor

 its kinda amusing the Iran-Contra party is upset about the fast and furious thing.  thats irony at its finest.

conservatives sure don’t like it when a black man like holder gets “uppity.”  there’s more GOP butthurt than the last time rick santorum and his kids visited jerry sandusky’s basement.

Right, the correct term is elitists, not elites. The only thing elite about these people is their perception of themselves.

Maybe when Barbour is in front of the House Oversight committee he will.

BUSH MADE HOLDER GET ALL THOSE PEOPLE KILLED!!!!

Genius.

The fact is that Holder keeps insisting he didn’t know anything about Fast and Furious.

If you don’t like it you should move to Idaho and run against him.

He has? OK, then. Who authorized Fast and Furious?

Committees are bipartisan.

Like?

Hey, how’s that Khalid Sheik Mohammed trial going?

That would be false. He didn’t know about the TACTICS being used. No evidence has been presented to disabuse those claims. 

You have a problem with the Constitution and the Supreme Court of Honduras?

Yes….but the chairman controls the agenda, therefore, partisanship comes to play. 

F&F was not a national operation. The AG only gets informed (briefly) of operations underway across the field offices. He does not get briefed on the minutiae of each and every operation in the country. He has underlings who do that.

It’s interesting that you’re defending Fast and Furious.

So, what were you doing in Sandusky’s basement?

The top law enforcement official in the land obeys and enforces the law according to a racial and Leftist agenda – this is a fail.

Yes Cajun is a
Beatiful language. Always 2 is better than 1. You ignorant jack ass

Bullshit

He heads Justice, not only was it his responsibility to interest himself about the “TACTICS” that led to the death of the border patrol agent, the hundreds of dead Mexican nationals should have also inspired him to get to the bottom of it.  Also, there’s still a couple thousand high powered weapons on the loose and to date, no one has been disciplined for this.  He didn’t even have the decency to contact the agent’s family.

Yeah, those good old days, only in today’s situation, people died.

Look at this, sigh:

Official to plead Fifth in Fast, Furious probe:

http://www.usatoday.com/USCP/PNI/NEWS/2012-01-21-PNI0121met-fast-and-furious-prosecutorPNIBrd_ST_U.htm

Like, how’s that three year CIA torture investigation going? 

 ”D’uh, we’re dropping that.”

The “birther” issue was legitimate?? Based on what??

Furthermore,  Republicans in Congress defended Gonzalez’s failures and are now going after Holder in retaliation for Democrats exposing Gonzalez’s incompetence!!

They seemed to have forgotten their beloved Reagan negotiated with terrorists!!

What are you implying?? Get to the point!!

Now that the Terry’s filed suit against the government…..and one of the gunshops involved, someone is going to save their butt and talk.

The real story is that they’ve kept this covered up because they didn’t want bad publicity.  Didn’t even fire the perps, they are still getting paychecks.Pattern?

It was about a pattern that Holder exhibits…he never “knows”..he can’t recall.  It shows a consistant pattern of dodging questions asked.  They know he’s lying because they have the memos that prove that he did know and was informed. 

Perhaps it was Clinton that taught him to lie.

The committee knows his office was briefed on the gunrunning in April 2010, Agent Terry died in December of 2010.  What’s wrong with this picture.

The partisan part of the panel alreay exhonerated Holder in writing, guess the chairman doesn’t control what the opposition writes, questions or states….after all, eh?
 
 
 
 

Holder already threw that card:
The attorney general cited race in explaining why a “more extreme segment” of his critics were going after him. “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him, both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American,” Holder said in an interview with The New York Times.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/21/holder-cites-race-in-explaining-scrutiny-justice-department-actions/#ixzz1kicnaFVb
 
 
 
 

First of all, Labrador is not a senator, he’s a representative.  Second, Manual Zelaya took up with Hugo Chavez, Castro, etc.. and at the end if his one and only allowed term he attempted to hold an election to run for another term.  That silly act was against the Honduran Constitution.  On the eve of the election he was ousted by the Honduran militay and that action was upheld by the Honduran Supreme Court.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8123134.stm

Worst crock of s….I ever hear a coup
Is a coup

Let’s do the same to Obama. Ha?

We are talking about the Senator from SC

He violated the constitution, Honduras is allowed to enforce their law as they see fit.  It would be interesting to see, should Obama decide to ignore our Constitution, our Congress and the courts and take it upon himself to hold an unauthorized election to change our presidential term limits.  Wonder if that would create much of a stink.

If they know he’s lying, they should bring forth their evidence and stop playing games. Everyone lies at some time or another. Sometimes it is not expedient to tell the truth. Sometimes we lie to sheild others. Other times there are things going on that can not be revealed at the present time. Even Issa has lied at times. No one is exempt. Before you say someone is lying, you need all the facts. I look at the basic integrity of that person both past and present. No one is perfect. I look at what comes out of their mouth because it reveals the condition of the heart. If what they say is akin to what I believe then I am on their side. Let the facts come out.

So what. Should he say he did just to appease you? I think Holder and the President are decent, honest, responsible men and America is well served to have them. Before I judge others, I look at their basic integrity both past and present. I look at the present crop of Republican nominees and I see much to be desired. Even their own party rejects them. I also look at those who are accusing them and their motives and they come up lacking. I will vote for the decent honorable men.

It’s generally a good idea, I think, not to go insulting others in a language you don’t speak very well.

If I listed “conservative” at the end you’d name your kids after me.

–Cobra

Holder is THE WORST…his comments were deluded and deflected the issue…he needs to go immediately

My God what business is our Honduras

YOU are deluded.  This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.  You may not like the current administration but they were fairly elected and deserve respect.  I am sick of your ‘he’s not MY President’.  Then you stand in defiance of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.  You know, that document you pretend to read.

they also don’t like to be reminded that ‘fast and furious’ started under George W. Bush…oh that’s right.  They don’t like to be reminded of GWB or the first 8 years of the decade either.

we need to drop this guy like a box of broken bricks.

Mr Teaspoon I am too old to care about your opinion

Teaspoon come here to the bayou my alligators love to taste you

I am bilingual and proud of it
This is my State and my Country
You do not like it go somewhere else
I live in US for more than 80 years
So frankly I do not give a s… If you do not like us

English is my first language Cajun my second. Do not give a flip of they do not like it. This is the Great USA Proud to be a bayou Cajun and a Red Neck
If you do not like it just do not read it
That is OK with us

Well so far we do not see our President doing any law braking. Congress can take him out of office As an elderly person I have never seen such a mess in our GOP. They are re electing this president

“Federal agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF)
and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) tried to execute a warrant
for Koresh on February 28, 1993, part of an investigation into
allegations of illegal weapons and child abuse….

…A shoot-out ensued that left ten dead: four BATF agents and six Branch
Davidians. Koresh and his followers holed up in their compound and a
confused state of negotiations went on for 51 days, ending on April 19,
1993 when the compound burned to the ground, killing Koresh and 74
followers, including 21 children.”Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/david-koresh#ixzz1lLWIx9sa
 
 So, NeoKong, I guess your advice to American citizens is to  resist arrest, shoot to kill any law enforcement officer who attempts to execute a warrant or summons and to use children as human shields while dying in a messianic blaze of infamy because THEN, you will log on to a popular media blog and declare that the dead arrest-resisting, cop-killing pedophile “wasn’t really charged with any crime.”

  C’mon boss. Roll with that strategy.  I double dog dare you.

–Cobra

Well now you’re just a crazy person.

You are a completely irrational and biased fool – I never said anything about Obama “not being my President” or anything even remotely like that or anything about the Constitution.

In fact, I am a registered Democrat, and have been since my first election back in 1988.  I wish I could vote for Bill Clinton another 10 times, and I voted for Hilary for NYS Senator. 

What I said was that Holder’s comments were delusional and that he had to go.  I think he is lying about F&F, and that he has turned the DOJ into a political organization.  He is a bad AG, and I think he is doing a disservice to the country by how he runs the DOJ.

Are not we all? Ha? This is my last response to you. Once again I just do not care. Good by

You are right and I apologize.  I am sick of this blog and the constant comments of how stupid the Obama administration is.  I personally like Holder.  I do not think he is a liar.  Fast and Furious began under GWB but we never hear that.  I think the AGs office has done a tremendous amount of cleanup.  But I am sorry I jumped you.

LOL  Barbour pardoned far too many people when he LEFT OFFICE, so while there was no need to call for him to step down, there was a HUGE outcry over his pardons.  Even now there are lawsuits going on that we hope will result in some of his pardons being revoked.  But to answer your question..yes, many conservatives were REALLY REALLY mad at Barbour for his foolish pardons!  But his actions do not come close to garbage that Holder has pulled!

Yes, under Bush there was a SIMILAR program, but when they realized immediately after the first sale, that they could not track the weapons the program was cancelled.  Someone under the Obama administration stumbled upon the failed Bush program and started it up again and did not care if they could track the weapons because their goal was NOT following up, it was creating chaos so they had a reason to crack down on gun ownership and gun sales.  Remember when Obama told one of his supporters that they were working on something “behind the scenes” when she questioned him about ending gun ownership?  He was no doubt talking about their “fast and furious” program.  Now it just needs to be proven in court.

Yes, a similar program WAS begun under Bush and was also CANCELED under Bush after the first transaction, when they realized they would not be able to track the weapons after they crossed the border.  Then when Obama took office they saw the failed and closed program of the Bush administration and decided to use the program as a means of creating chaos on the border so that they could call for more gun control measures.  Reopening the program, knowing they would not be able to track the weapons, was a deliberate attempt to force American’s into demanding new gun control and sales laws.  They got busted and now a lot of people are dead, because the Obama administration put their ideology above American and Mexican citizens lives.

Since Holder has refused to turn over the documents they have asked for, they cannot yet prove his was involved.  But eventually the facts will come out and Holder will hopefully end up in jail for his part in this crime.  It has become very obvious to anyone watching that Holder is lying about his part in this and since Obama has refused to demand the whole truth come out, I suspect the whole truth will point directly to his office!

Showing quotes from Holder’s past is somehow disrespectful?  Perhaps Holder didn’t like what he heard coming out of his own mouth?

Holder is nothing but a water carrier for Obama. What ever his agenda is holder will support it good bad or indifferent.

If you didn’t hear about that phase you haven’t been listening. The bush administration looked at it and determined it was wrong and dropped it.

That’s your take on it. Let the facts come out.

uh no…the Bush Administration called it ‘Wide Receiver’ and ATF Phoenix did 3 of them.  They didn’t work either.  They began in 2006.  It’s in the Congressional Record.

It sounds as if Holder doesn’t realize respect is something that must be earned. Based on his job performance, he simply has not earned my respect. Of course, what he did was use a common debate strategy. Rather than identify which parts of the slide show he felt had taken his quotes out of context, he redirected the conversation by launching a personal attack on his accuser in a sad attempt to draw sympathy. 

Shalom sy. I can’t debate you on your answer to my post since I’m not sure of its accuracy and don’t have the time to do a Nexis/lexis. However I will say ifit is in the record that speaks volumes for bush because all your going to get from Holder in the record is obsfucation.

It’s not in the Congressional Record because the Bush Administration disclosed it.  It’s in the record because Issa and Burton brought it up when they were yelling at Holder.  This was before they decided to blame it all on this administration.  They were truly concerned that this was becoming some policy in government.

Sy let’s not be a putz you said it was in the record.

I try REALLY hard not to be a ‘putz’…it’s in the Congressional Record…that is where all minutes of hearings reside.  It is also where papers and policies can be inserted.  The papers that were inserted were by the whistleblower John Dodson and the hearings were of course, between the House Committee and Holder.  Did you not think that was what the Congressional Record was?

Oh…so the D are being partisan but the R are not? Can you be any more disingenuous?

YOU EVER HEAR OF THE ‘NEW WORLD ORDER’? 
Those are the folks that are trying to centralize POWER in their hands, and they sure are’nt DEMOCRATS!

How totally Teabagger cool…full of chicken-little fear-mongering, bigoted generalizations, and mommy/daddy/lil brother issues. congrats!
PS Come and try to “pitchfork” or “torch” me or mine, fool. Ill seal you and your little keyboard warriors fate.

I always thought that trying to centralize power in their own hands kinda fits the Bush-Cheney dual.
Secondly if the elites are trampling on individual rights,
why is it that the conservatives want to trample on my 
individual rights by trying to control what goes on in the bedrooms of america. Also what about contraception
and abortion. Thees are individual rights  that the far right
or teaparty have no problem trampling. 
Using these criteria I guess you will have to assume the
title of ‘elite’. 

Why don’t you immediately contact Congressman Issa and give him all the proof you
have on Holders lies. In the USA anybody can sue anybody for whatever amount 
they wish. All this issue has been on mediate and all other stations for weeks.You may 
need to broaden your horizons and listen to more stations in stead of the unfair and
unbalanced network. There really is a world out there.

If the dummies know he is lying then what are they doing. 
Present the facts are stop the performances.Issa may not be he sharpest knife in the drawer but he should know what is in his own hand. Lay it out.!!!

How do twist “”or wherever you’re from “”into “”go back to”". When you add your words
it has a different meaning. There might be a little bit of projection here.

Is there any other kind of republican than a white republican ? Where are you hiding them
if there are.

You don’t know squat !

You’re NUTS!

Good luck proving that in court and oh, also good luck finding that leprechaun so you can get his gold.

That Labrador looked like Holder smacked him in the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

And they care about them way too much.

LEEDOG,

I thought I was clear as I was referring too, “legitimate investigations.”  What those investigations uncover is another matter: truth, falsehood, or denial?

President Obama, has obfuscated many aspects of his personal life, educational and professional/political history.  Certainly there was enough vagary to merit an investigation for his birth certificate, college enrollment, friendships and associations, college and law school transcripts, etc…

Even the most obtuse minded person should find it curious as to why we can’t read Obama’s college and law school papers?  I am VERY proud of mine, especially my various philosophical treatises such as “Neutral Principle” as well as my 3.76 GPA.

As for comparing Gonzalez and Holder, first, such is poor argumentation form, to rationalize one mistake with another.  That being said, Eric Holder is indirectly responsible for at least two deaths of American Border Patrol Agents.  Furthermore, it appears he is now lying about it, or, at least guilty of “guilt by omission.”

Also, Holder failed to act with regard to the two Black Panthers standing in front of a Polling Station in Philly.  (But white Klansmen did that in 1962, in Birmingham, so its OK?)

Holder, is predisposed to inserting a political ideology into the United States Department of Justice.  That is despicable!

You want to talk about Gonzalez, first admit to Holder’s incompetence, then we’ll talk some more.

Purveyor

I’m getting out of here before we bring Herb Alpert into the issue…

Eric Holder has spent a lifetime defending terrorists, by choice. Isn’t that so?
I am sure I read where could not have gotten even a low level security clearance
for his ties to terrorists.

Have you heard of this , Gloves Fingers Donahue? 

You know,

You are respectful and curious when you talk with me and I appreciate that.  I try to return the favor, however, I think what bothers me the most though, respectfully, is why you and others are pulled in a particular direction? (Left)

I am pro choice, want marijuana (drugs?) legalized, think euthanasia should be voluntary and legal, want prayer out of schools, and I am very concerned about the environment. etc.

Those are generally considered left of center positions, but, I can tell you by way of neutral principle, (reason and logic, not emotion) why I hold these positions!  That makes me a Conservative/Libertarian.

As for you and your compatriots it seems as if you are dismissing the most egalitarian Constitution in history and are desirous of replacing such with something Socialist?

Socialism has been an abject failure anywhere it has reared its ugly head.  Whether it was Lenin, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Hugo Chavez, eventually the workers paradise becomes a despotic, murderous regime.  Obama is a Socialist, surrounded by Socialists and he has slowly, inexorably been consolidating power in the Executive branch and attempting to diminish power from the Legislative, thus minimizing the Constitution?  

(Do I need to provide specifics such as, his Czars and his “executive orders” that circumvent Congress?)

Maybe, the Republicans are just as bad and fouled things up too, but  America’s Constitution is a sound platform with which to return too for guidance?  

              “You don’t cut off your nose to spite your face”

Respectfully
Purveyor

Moosenuts is walking down the street and sees a Police Officer having difficulty arresting a bad guy, who had just assaulted and stolen the purse of a woman…

1.) Mossenuts stops to watch?

2.) Continues on his way to the Socialist Rally?

3.) Takes picture of alleged Police Brutality?

4.) Maintains a safe distance while calling the Police Officer, a fascist pig?

(Notice the absence of option #5 as that would require Moosenuts overcoming his natural propensity for cowardice.)

Purveyor

I do so enjoy this!  LOL

Never before, in one place have so many gathered in need of a verbal spanking.  (Didn’t Churchill say something like this?)  Ouch!

Holder is as arrogant as his boss, Obama!  I pray Holder finds his way to a prison cell in the near future.  He is not a trustworthy person and will do whatever has to be done to please his pathetic boss, Obama.  Both really need to see the inside of a prison cell for many, many years!  Lets rid ourselves of this untrustworthy disaster we call an Administration and vote in Real American Loving Patriots in November!  The Oval Office and Congress need to have Leaders who Love America, not want to destroy it, like the current ones!

You discussed many topics, but of course, we agree on some of them and disagree on others!!

Based on what you said, you do sound like a Libertarian, you probably like Ron Paul?? I agree with Ron on more issues than I thought I would!!

We do have some forms of Socialism already being implemented in our society, example: You taxes go to the fire department to put out someone else’s fire!! Same with the police department and national defense!! Imagine if everyone had to pay for those services by having their own personal fire and police departments, they wouldn’t make sense!! Or if everyone on the coast had to pay for defense in case of an invasion!!

Some things we all need to contribute for the common good!!

As far as the executive branch having too much power, the Czar thing is kind of stupid, but really felt there was an over reach with the Patriot Act!!

I respect the Constitution and feel most Americans do, but also feel the Republicans aren’t concerned about strengthening the middle-class as much as they are for defending the wealthy in this country!!

I feel the Republican Party has shifted too far right!!

If Obama’s school record is not made public, yes it would possible look like there is something to hide!! However, his records or GPA really don’t hold too much relevance unless he lied about going to College in the first place… which he didn’t!!

As for his birth certificate, when you had the McCain camp, the Clinton camp during the 2008 elections and not to mention news outlets like Fox not finding out he wasn’t born in this country… then there was nothing to find!!

There was the birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper!! Obama used the issue to make the birthers look foolish once he released the certificate!!

In “Fast and Furious”, the program was flawed from the start and should have never been put in place!! Someone should be fired, but not Holder, the person directly in charge should be the one!!

If it is proven Holder intentional mislead Congress, then he should be fired!!

Many feel the Bush Administration used the Justice Department for his own agenda and Gonzalez allowed that to happen and embarrassed the department!!

A busy Saturday, sorry.

The termis “deceit by omission.” As I mentioned in my earlier post, there is a history of “omissions,” that no other Presidential candidate, that I know of, let pass. As far as transcripts and writing, they say volumes about a man and his intellect. You’re rationalizing, which is easy to do when we believe in something.

The Birth certificate, papers combined with Obamas unsavory associations were only made worse by keeping such hidden. Conversely, I find it strange that despite all of these social and political faux pas, a plurality of Americans (you included, let such slide) Respectfully, that tells me about you? (again, respectfully)

As for Holder, when something goes wrong on a ship, no matter what, it’s ultimately the Captains fault. Traditionally, in the highest levels of Government that same standard applies. Anyway, The “stonewalling” alone is enough to make we citizens question Holder’s competence.

LEE, you and I have talked about “neutral principle,” no matter how hard it hurts, try applying it to your personal and professional life, also your political inclinations. Doing the right thing, applying equal protection is all about the truth. I think the most painful part is when YOU or I try to live by principle, but others do not. Breaks your heart!

Purveyor

LEE,

No, I am not a Ron Paul fan, actually, I think his mind addled. I don’t say that flippantly, or as pejorative.

However, like you I see wisdom in some of views, the Federal Reserve and Treasury certainly need to watched more carefully, at least!

Your argument about fire departments, snow plows and Police being part of a Socialist Government is a convenient, hackneyed as well as fallacious argument. There are certain tasks that virtually Governments perform regardless of political inclination. Both East and West Germany had fire men and fire trucks?

The Czar issue, scares the hell out of me! In latin: “delagata non delagata,” meaning one cannot grant power to another, that one does not themselves posses. It all started with a Drug Czar and now look what we’ve got.

The Patriot Act was a necessary idea given the threat, however, within the borders of our Nation, there is always enough time to seek out a proper warrant so as to have a second opinion, so to speak.

Regarding the last two paragraphs: therein lies the rub? Remember my talking about economic treason? I believe that allowing jobs to leave the country and lower paid workers to come in, is a form of economic treason. Conversely, I think Unions have occasionally run amok forcing business to leave? Whether Conservative or Liberal, they both have contributed to the economic problems.

As any recovering alcoholic/addict will tell you, “the first step is admitting you’ve got a problem.” We’ve got a problem.

Good stuff, nice chat. Watch those demagogues? Ouch!

What does Justice Ginsberg’s interview with Egyptian TV tell you about her?

Apply neutral principle? The Supreme Court should be the last bastion of principle!

Purveyor

In a more sane world, former Attorney General Eric Holder would be the one being lectured — on how group showering is conducted in federal detention facilities.

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Blah blah liberals, blah blah Obama, blah blah Holder.
Not smart, not funny, not interesting.

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