Karab Amabo is already 10 pts ahead of Mitt Romney!

When and how did Maher go from being a libertarian to being an obot liberal? Just like when and how did Arianna go from being a conservative to being a liberal? Why do they never explain their epiphanies? And as far as Maher being funny, hyper-partisanship isn’t all that funny; it’s sledgehammer humor.

I always preferred Carlin. He was an equal opportunity basher who had nothing but disdain for politians, no matter their party label. He was a true iconoclast whereas Maher is a shill.

I also have to add that Maher’s segment about the GOP is pretty ugly and over-the-top. He might want to keep in mind that’s he’s insulting about half the population of this country, not good for increasing his viewership. More subtlety would help.

You know, if that caricature he used were any one but a white man, it would be considered highly stereotypical and racist. It’s certainly classist. What he’s saying is that all republicans are fat, stupid hillbillies. There used to be a time when the Dems were on the side of the working class and the rural folk. Remember Woody Guthrie? And they wonder why they’ve lost the white working class vote? This Maher segment is a perfect example of why.

You guys are missing the point. It targets guys like Newt who automatically switch to be opposite the President no matter if they flip flop. It’s not about all Republicans.

CAINtheBULL said:
You guys are missing the point. It targets guys like Newt who automatically switch to be opposite the President no matter if they flip flop. It’s not about all Republicans.

Sort of like the numerous flip-flops of Maher’s messiah, Obama.

Now that I think of it, that’s pretty ironic. Maher, the fervent atheist, has made anti-Republicanism his religion and now worships at the shrine of Obama.

Pure slander. Not funny.

I would say that the anti-Obama is someone like Hermain Cain, Allen West, Paul Ryan, or Chris Christie.

*Herman

Quit yer cryin’ Righties!!!!

This is COMEDY!!!

No need to take it personal just because it hits too close to home!!!

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!

slickerwick said:
He might want to keep in mind that’s he’s insulting about half the population of this country, not good for increasing his viewership

Slicker, my bet is that Dems [who are a pronounced 2-to-1 minority nationwide] probably outnumber Republican subscribers to HBO by perhaps a 2-to-1 margin. Just guessing. Does anyone have any numbers at all?

grafxmail7 said:
Quit yer cryin’ Righties!!!! This is COMEDY!!! No need to take it personal just because it hits too close to home!!! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!

I must say, I’m blinded by the sheer brilliance of your comment. It’s so substantive and insightful. And all the CAPITAL LETTERS and exclamation points add real punch!!!!

I just found an article I think was written with you in mind. “Local Idiot to Post Comment on Internet.”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/local-idiot-to-post-comment-on-internet,2500/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation

WHarropson said:
Pure slander. Not funny.

It’s funny when Lush Limpballs does it though….right? Oh…I forget. He’s normally saying the “truth” LOL.

This was not one of Maher’s funniest bits, despite his trouble avoiding breaking up. Often his sendups are so sharp you can cut yourself on the edge.

And as to whether he’s morphed from a libertarian to a democrat, I’m not sure that’s true. I’d characterize him — consistently — as a classicliberal who’s 1) fed up with the pieties mouthed by politicians on both the left and the right (although mostly on the right) and 2) finds Republicans more preposterous (and hence easier to mock) than Democrats.

Listening to Maher, you need to remember that he’s not really a political commentator, but instead a comic of the “professional vulgarian” variety.

slickerwick said:
When and how did Maher go from being a libertarian to being an obot liberal? Just like when and how did Arianna go from being a conservative to being a liberal? Why do they never explain their epiphanies? And as far as Maher being funny, hyper-partisanship isn’t all that funny; it’s sledgehammer humor.

I always preferred Carlin. He was an equal opportunity basher who had nothing but disdain for politians, no matter their party label. He was a true iconoclast whereas Maher is a shill.

Basically, Maher blames conservatives for the cancellation of Politically Incorrect. It’s hard not to notice that he’s got a huge soft spot for a lot of the left’s most hated people who happened to be frequent guests on the show like Ann Coulter and especially Christine O’Donnell, who is the embodiment of everything that Maher rants and raves about. Everyone else, he’s willing to tar with a brush that’s even huger than his nose. The guy has devolved into an absolute partisan hack, and there is nothing thoughtful that ever comes out of his mouth anymore. I really do think that at this point, HBO could replace Real Time with a 60 minute tape loop of Maher saying “F*ck Republicans, they’re stupid” without losing any significant part of his audience.

I like Susan Boyle you wretch.

Another difference: Karab Amabo always tells the truth.

Don’t forget that Karab is a non-smoker, too, and that he doesn’t FAIL when it comes to his NCAA picks! Let’s be completely clear about the distinctions here!

I am glad that Obamo smokes. Eventually it’ll have the desired effect.

Comedy? From the hater? Please, Maher isn’t funny anymore. He supports war now since hehimself has committed us to Libya….just like Rachel Maddow supports war now. WHat is funny is that mediaite apparently puts this nasty man up on a pedestal, for some odd reason.

Bill is a creep and getting creepier every day. He sees the writing on the wall and doesn’t like it, so he will smear, slander, complain, bitch and moan, groan, and claim comedy.

pathetic human being.

The character that Maher used to portray Karab Amabo looks just like Rush Limbaugh. I had to enlarge my screen resolution just to make sure that it wasn’t. Mr. Limbaugh has been relentlessly critical of Michelle Obama’s “Let’s Move” initiative to reduce childhood obesity in America. The Fast Food Explorer nutritional website has created a “Obesity Wars” blog to cover this tummultuous disagreement. We’ve also created a search function, on the Explorer site, called the “Cardio Search”. Michelle approved fast food items are returned in the “left” label (green), Limbaugh approved fast food items are returned in the “right” label (red).

Republicans might not like our comparitive methodology, but it’s only reflecting the truth about Mr.Limbaugh’s position on childhood obesity. Like it, or not, GOP, 2012 is going to be framed as the battle between the party that believes in a government that wants healthy children, against the party that thinks that children have the constitutional right to be as morbidly obese as they choose to be – without the “nanny state” telling them how many calories are in their Big Mac!

Mr. Limbaugh drew the line in the sand, he should not be surprised when Bill Maher, and the rest of liberal America, kick sand at the “world’s most famous man dumpling”.

Klaatu said:
The character that Maher used to portray Karab Amabo looks just like Rush Limbaugh. I had to enlarge my screen resolution just to make sure that it wasn’t. Mr. Limbaugh has been relentlessly critical of Michelle Obama’s “Let’s Move” initiative to reduce childhood obesity in America. The Fast Food Explorer nutritional website has created a “Obesity Wars” blog to cover this tummultuous disagreement. We’ve also created a search function, on the Explorer site, called the “Cardio Search”. Michelle approved fast food items are returned in the “left” label (green), Limbaugh approved fast food items are returned in the “right” label (red). Republicans might not like our comparitive methodology, but it’s only reflecting the truth about Mr.Limbaugh’s position on childhood obesity. Like it, or not, GOP, 2012 is going to be framed as the battle between the party that believes in a government that wants healthy children, against the party that thinks that children have the constitutional right to be as morbidly obese as they choose to be – without the “nanny state” telling them how many calories are in their Big Mac! Mr. Limbaugh drew the line in the sand, he should not be surprised when Bill Maher, and the rest of liberal America, kick sand at the “world’s most famous man dumpling”.

You mean it wasn’t Hsur Hguabmil?

slickerwick said:
I must say, I’m blinded by the sheer brilliance of your comment. It’s so substantive and insightful. And all the CAPITAL LETTERS and exclamation points add real punch!!!! I just found an article I think was written with you in mind. “Local Idiot to Post Comment on Internet.” http://www.theonion.com/articles/local-idiot-to-post-comment-on-internet,2500/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation

This is not comedy. It’s personal attacks disguised as comedy. Maher is a sick disgusting human being.

Bill Adkins said:
You mean it wasn’t Hsur Hguabmil?

Clever. Can we borrow it? Our next post will be centered on this Maher bit, it would be the perfect icing on the low cal, “Let’s Move” cake.

Dave Richards said:
This is not comedy. It’s personal attacks disguised as comedy. Maher is a sick disgusting human being.

Are you 1) serious; 2) being facetious; or 3) terminally obtuse? Maher is pointedly and surgically dissecting the Republican singlemindedness as Republicans like Haley Barbour, John Boehner and Rush Limbaugh all line up with Farrakhan and against America. Unlikely allies to say the least, it just goes to prove that for Republicans ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend” as they oppose Obama.
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The opposite of Obama is a woman who loves her country .

The “little fella” speaks again.

Bill Adkins said:
Are you 1) serious; 2) being facetious; or 3) terminally obtuse? Maher is pointedly and surgically dissecting the Republican singlemindedness as Republicans like Haley Barbour, John Boehner and Rush Limbaugh all line up with Farrakhan and against America. Unlikely allies to say the least, it just goes to prove that for Republicans ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend” as they oppose Obama..

Why do you even bother to post such ignorant garbage? You’re in way over your head. Find something else to do with your life.

Ah, nothing funnier than a self-loathing liberal.

Maher has given his audience a small glipse behing the curtain, as to how he really feels.

The name he has chosen for his ficticious Chris Christie character really says it all.

Obama’s backward ideology and way of thinking, just like Maher’s, makes them both losers with a capitol L.

Also, just like Obama, Maher unrelentingly projects ( transfers ) his own shortcomings & failings onto others ( Republicans, Tea Party, real Americans ) simply because neither is man enough to accept that the problem lies whithin themselves.

Unfortunately, as a result of their leadership, this cancer like phenomenon has gone viral throughout the liberal minded individuals of this country, seriously threatening to destroy her from within.

Dave Richards said:
Why do you even bother to post such ignorant garbage? You’re in way over your head. Find something else to do with your life.

The greatest problem facing this nation is creeping ignorance — you illustrate that problem.

They aren’t serious at opposing the President at all take a look at the pathetic display that was Newt Gingrich this week. There is no one in the Republican field who will come close to beating Obama and that is pathetic. They have no ideas other than to oppose the President, they got nothing.

I guess we are gonna have to get used to 4 more years of Obama.

Shouldn’t the name be Kcarab?

Color Me Badd said:
I guess we are gonna have to get used to 4 more years of Obama

LOL, next year Obama won’t be able to beat Charlie Sheen. Only clowns like Color Me Dumb will vote for Dumbo.

Maher is clearly on crack.

Why do loberals like Maher act like there is something wrong with being white? They use skin color as an insult.

Because Maher hates himself. And well he should.

Dronetek said:
Why do loberals like Maher act like there is something wrong with being white? They use skin color as an insult.

It’s called white liberal guilt.

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Color Me Badd said:
I guess we are gonna have to get used to 4 more years of Obama

LOL, next year Obama won’t be able to beat Charlie Sheen. Only clowns like Color Me Dumb will vote for Dumbo.

Maher is clearly on crack.
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Color Me Badd said:
They aren’t serious at opposing the President at all take a look at the pathetic display that was Newt Gingrich this week. There is no one in the Republican field who will come close to beating Obama and that is pathetic. They have no ideas other than to oppose the President, they got nothing. I guess we are gonna have to get used to 4 more years of Obama.

” Is That You’re Final Answer “, or would you like to use a life line, make a phone call or ?

It really is amazing that so-called Ive League intellectuals like Maher and Olbermann (OK, not Olbermann) who make a career out of figurative bomb throwing and 24/7 ripping the other guy turn around and do a satirical piece meant to ridicule people that do nothing but rip the other guy. The projection and hypocrisy continues at a staggering rate…..

I’d like to introduce the new female pundit on the scene, Ahras Nilap, who does nothing but ridicule and oppose anything and everything about you-know-who.

Maher’s A Fat, White, Small-Eared Idiot

The American Left is now just buffoonery and clowning. They can’t deal with the real criticisms of Obama’s failed administration — out-of-control deficits, broken budgeting process, incoherent foreign policy — so they prefer to invent a joke opponent.

But the real laughingstock here is the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda of:

Spend money you don’t have
On bills you don’t read
For programs that don’t work

And the Left doesn’t even try to address that huge elephant in the room. Which will lead to an elephant in the White House in 2012.

A skinny 5ft-nothing America hating capitalist

Bill Adkins said:
The greatest problem facing this nation is creeping ignorance

How else to explain liberalism and the rise of 0bama?

writer said:
Ah, nothing funnier than a self-loathing liberal.

Nothing more pathetic, really. Equally pathetic are his followers.

Calvin said:
I would say that the anti-Obama is someone like Hermain Cain, Allen West, Paul Ryan, or Chris Christie.

Sarah Palin is the anti-0bama.

Big Eddie said:
The opposite of Obama is a woman who loves her country .

ndanielson said:
Sarah Palin is the anti-0bama.

A Christian woman who loves her country.

This is the kind of behavior I would expect from a 10 yr old.

Wow. None of you righty-tighties even get the joke.
And continue to predictably and clumsily bash away–thereby illustrating Maher’s point.

Obama is half black half white. Wouldn’t opposite Obama be half white half black?

so, does that make Maher a racist, as well as a fatist?

I wasn’t going to go there, especially since I have a face that no one will call classically handsome, but Maher, the little fella, really shouldn’t knock anyone’s physical appearance with that two-car garage parked on his face where a nose should be.

Yeeks.

Dem4Ever said:
This is the kind of behavior I would expect from a 10 yr old.

That’s what he is in mind and stature. But the lefties need someone on their level to relate to. That’s all the left does is trash talk.

It’s all they ever have to defend their side of any argument. They literally sh!t where they sleep:

spacegod said:
Wow. None of you righty-tighties even get the joke.
And continue to predictably and clumsily bash away–thereby illustrating Maher’s point.

Being against everything Obimbo is for, is wrong? I thought that was just the use of good common sense. The exact opposite of Obimbo would, be a person of integrity, character, knowledge of foreign, and domestic policy, and an innate ability to make decisions. A person who would find it impertinent to be playing basketball, or running out of the country every time a hard decision has to be made. Actually though, if you think about it, the person Maher is describing is more suited for the job than “I don’t need no stinking birth certificate” Obimbo!

This site has become pathetic. It is like the National Enquirer of the internet. It seems that only leftist propaganda is news to this site. No wonder leftist clowns are the most ignorant in this country, they get their news opinions from Stewart Maher, Maddow, Mathews, and the rest of the leftist clowns, never even knowing they are spoon-fed the liberal tripe of the day, everyday. That is why they think they can sh!t where they sleep and still think of themselves as “Americans”.

They are white, Bill?

LOL- look in the mirror , you self-hating (-)

S Chuñdy said:
Karab Amabo is already 10 pts ahead of Mitt Romney!

Hey
I resemble that remark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hYzpGWFPLo

The very country that Michelle 0bama could not be proud of:

When Ayn Rand immigrated to the United States, she embraced the United States whole-heartedly. Ayn Rand was a great admirer of the founding fathers and always said, proudly, that she was not an American by birth, but by choice.

This woman is the anti-liberal, and the anti-Maher, and the ultimate anti-0bama. She wrote:

I can say — not as a patriotic bromide, but with full knowledge of the necessary metaphysical, epistemological, ethical, political and esthetic roots — that the United States of America is the greatest, the noblest and, in its original founding principles, the only moral country in the history of the world.

And sadly:

Toward the end of her later life, however, Ayn Rand became disillusioned with the society and culture in which she was living. She didn’t hear anybody defending America; she didn’t hear anybody fighting for America ‘s ideals — as the country seemed to be slipping deeper into a real version of Atlas Shrugged.

H/T: Theo Willem

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/will_conservatives_defend_atla.html

sarainitaly said:
Obama is half black half white. Wouldn’t opposite Obama be half white half black?

Good point. Karab Amabo should be a fat, half-white, half-black, small-eared genius.

ndanielson:

I agree. Ann Rand warned of a bloated, “big-brother government” that would suck the life out of individual achievement and stagnate the inventiveness of our most ingenious by taking away all the reward their work would have provided them. Remove the reward…means…removing the incentive. We are watching Europe in turmoil today because those governments have relied on the 1% of ultra rich to pay for the overgrowing free ride the citizens of those countries have come to expect. We are not far behind them, and in fact, the bottom-feeders are demanding more.

ndanielson said:
This site has become pathetic. It is like the National Enquirer of the internet. It seems that only leftist propaganda is news to this site. No wonder leftist clowns are the most ignorant in this country, they get their news opinions from Stewart Maher, Maddow, Mathews, and the rest of the leftist clowns, never even knowing they are spoon-fed the liberal tripe of the day, everyday.

I concur. John Stossel did a fabulous show last night on FNC about “Freeloaders”, from panhandlers, Pigford Settlement rip-offs, The GE scam (which was in the NY Times of all places!), Deadbeats who deliberately don’t pay their mortgages, Federal handouts to Indian tribes (except to the one Indian tribe who is not Fed. recognized and is prosperous – the Lumbee tribe), Federal Flood insurance (which Stossel admitted he used- at least he said thanks!) and the biggest welfare queens in America – corporations who find politicians (from both parties) more than willing to cut ‘em a deal.

Why no article on THAT show? But you gleefully regurgitate Maher’s talking points? EVERY WEEK?
C’mon Mediaite, you can do better than this………….

slickerwick said:
When and how did Maher go from being a libertarian to being an obot liberal? Just like when and how did Arianna go from being a conservative to being a liberal? Why do they never explain their epiphanies?

Every whore has a price

slickerwick said:
Now that I think of it, that’s pretty ironic. Maher, the fervent atheist, has made anti-Republicanism his religion and now worships at the shrine of Obama.

Great point

ndanielson said:
The very country that Michelle 0bama could not be proud of:

This woman is the anti-liberal, and the anti-Maher, and the ultimate anti-0bama. She wrote:

And sadly:

H/T: Theo Willem

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/will_conservatives_defend_atla.html

So how does this relate to Karab Amabo?

Jim Treacher said:
Another difference: Karab Amabo always tells the truth.

KA-BOOM!

Dsiscokid said:
Great point

Really? That’s a good point? lol

Snowspot said:
Really? That’s a good point? lol

To quote another thread from a couple of days ago (you and I had this discussion already)
“Humanists have made themselves gods and kings in their own minds”
Mr. Maher would be Exhibit A in this debate

caconservative said:
ndanielson:

I agree. Ann Rand warned of a bloated, “big-brother government” that would suck the life out of individual achievement and stagnate the inventiveness of our most ingenious by taking away all the reward their work would have provided them. Remove the reward…means…removing the incentive. We are watching Europe in turmoil today because those governments have relied on the 1% of ultra rich to pay for the overgrowing free ride the citizens of those countries have come to expect. We are not far behind them, and in fact, the bottom-feeders are demanding more.

An eyeopening article on multiculturalism in the EU: it would make a liberal head explode.

Snowspot said:
So how does this relate to Karab Amabo?

: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/geert_wilders_in_rome_defendin.html

It’s a leftist/rightest thing, snowpet. Far above your pretty little head.

ndanielson said:
Snowspot said:
So how does this relate to Karab Amabo?

It is the anti-0bama doctrine or did you miss that implication???

As is this: : http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/geert_wilders_in_rome_defendin.html

Do yourself a favor, snowpet, read it.

Let us all not forget the time where one of Barack Obama’s supporters was kidnapped and a large A was carved onto his face. The right-wing media REFUSES to discuss the hatred inherent in Karab Amabo supporters, they are thugs! And just like thugs, they attack things they don’t understand. How many more A’s will have to be carved into the cheeks of fat woman before America wakes up to AmaboMB (that’s my clever nickname that I made up all by myself)

ndanielson said:
It’s a leftist/rightest thing

True vs. False
Right vs. Wrong
Good vs. Evil

If anything I’ll always be impressed with the right-wings ability to create nicknames that are offensive in a sort of third grade way, lol.

ndanielson said:
This site has become pathetic. It is like the National Enquirer of the internet. It seems that only leftist propaganda is news to this site. No wonder leftist clowns are the most ignorant in this country, they get their news opinions from Stewart Maher, Maddow, Mathews, and the rest of the leftist clowns, never even knowing they are spoon-fed the liberal tripe of the day, everyday. That is why they think they can sh!t where they sleep and still think of themselves as “Americans”.

Then you should leave if you don’t like it.

RowdyHoward said:
Then you should leave if you don’t like it.

I keep telling him the same thing about America.

Snowspot said:
If anything I’ll always be impressed with the right-wings ability to create nicknames that are offensive in a sort of third grade way, lol.

After awhile, it is pointless to talk to them, so who cares what you are called. 1. you missed this:

This woman is the anti-liberal, and the anti-Maher, and the ultimate anti-0bama. She wrote:

and wrote:

So how does this relate to Karab Amabo?

So, snowspot, what is the point in talking to you civilly, or not???

Snowspot said:
I keep telling him the same thing about America.

RowdyHoward said:
Then you should leave if you don’t like it.

We like America the way our Founders intended it to be, not how your boy want so fundamentally transform it. So, why don’t you clowns leave???

ndanielson said:
We like America the way our Founders intended it to be, not how your boy want so fundamentally transform it. So, why don’t you clowns leave???

You don’t have the capacity to understand what the founding father’s meant, none of the Tea Party does. Which is why you’re all a joke.

Snowspot said:
You don’t have the capacity to understand what the founding father’s meant, none of the Tea Party does. Which is why you’re all a joke.

Maybe you should change your screen name to Yellowspot?

I sure won’t want to be around when Maher blows that big nose of his. LOL

Snowspot said:
You don’t have the capacity to understand what the founding father’s meant, none of the Tea Party does. Which is why you’re all a joke.

What would you like to discuss about it, snowspot? You don’t like being called names yet you sit there and tell me what I know and don’t know about the constitution???

ndanielson said:
Snowspot said:
You don’t have the capacity to understand what the founding father’s meant, none of the Tea Party does. Which is why you’re all a joke.

What did Madison mean when he wrote about the tyranny of the majority, and how does that square with federalism, in your opinion?

ndanielson said:
Snowspot said:
You don’t have the capacity to understand what the founding father’s meant, none of the Tea Party does. Which is why you’re all a joke.

What is meant by equal suffrage by the states, and how does that apply, uniquely, to UT in the adoption of the 17th Amendment? Feel free to quote Madison and Hamilton in your reply.

ndanielson said:
What would you like to discuss about it, snowspot? You don’t like being called names yet you sit there and tell me what I know and don’t know about the constitution???

SHUT UP! YOU TEATHUGLICANS DONT KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUTION MEANS! IT IS FULL OF POSITIVE RIGHTS LIKE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARES AND PUBLIC RADIOS!

BadGenome said:
SHUT UP! YOU TEATHUGLICANS DONT KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUTION MEANS! IT IS FULL OF POSITIVE RIGHTS LIKE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARES AND PUBLIC RADIOS!

Free abortion, subsidized tuition, affirmative action (see reverse racism) free cheese, gun-free zones, public sector unions, and a RIGHT to serve in the military.

“Maher’s Anti-Obama GOP Candidate: “Fat, White, Small-Eared Idiot” Karab Amabo”

The lamestream’s #1 SEWER RAT does a funny !!!!!!! Hilarious.

LOL! It’s funny cuz it’s true. Republican politicians and their sheeple have become a joke the world over.

BadGenome said:
SHUT UP! YOU TEATHUGLICANS DONT KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUTION MEANS! IT IS FULL OF POSITIVE RIGHTS LIKE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARES AND PUBLIC RADIOS!

Humans have the right to be treated for their wounds and also to receive credible information over the airwaves. You hate the government because a Democrat’s in charge now. Oh and you have no idea what the other side is thinking if that was your impression of a liberal or Democrat XD

TampopoLoco said:
LOL! It’s funny cuz it’s true. Republican politicians and their sheeple have become a joke the world over.

Your boy is a joke the world over.

Snowspot said:
Humans have the right

Yes, your grasp of the Constitution is stunning. Snowpet.

ndanielson said:
Your boy is a joke the world over.

Yea, sure he is. LOL!

ndanielson said:
Yes, your grasp of the Constitution is stunning. Snowpet.

That’s not in the constitution, it’s a universal human right. Help people in need, it’s also what most religious people base their entire life on.

You’re in the minority on this one and if you think people should be left to die as others, who could help, watch on in indifference, maybe you don’t have humanity’s best interests at heart.

Snowspot said:
That’s not in the constitution, it’s a universal human right. Help people in need, it’s also what most religious people base their entire life on. You’re in the minority on this one and if you think people should be left to die as others, who could help, watch on in indifference, maybe you don’t have humanity’s best interests at heart.

what other rights, how about food, shelter?

Snowspot said:
That’s not in the constitution, it’s a universal human right. Help people in need, it’s also what most religious people base their entire life on.

You’re in the minority on this one and if you think people should be left to die as others, who could help, watch on in indifference, maybe you don’t have humanity’s best interests at heart.

Yes, snowpet, liberals are based on feeeeelings. It’s good that in all of humanity, we now have governments that know how to rule. No need for constitutions. So governments have rights to TAKE what they deem is helpful for the common good, snowpet? Wow, comrade, where have we heard that before?

TampopoLoco said:
ndanielson said:
Your boy is a joke the world over.

Yea, sure he is. LOL!

Even your own clown agrees on something I have said, you are still clueless, snowpet.

Snowspot said:
Humans have the right to be treated for their wounds and also to receive credible information over the airwaves. You hate the government because a Democrat’s in charge now. Oh and you have no idea what the other side is thinking if that was your impression of a liberal or Democrat XD

Humans cannot possibly have a right to avail themselves of someone else’s time, effort, or skills.

And do my eyes deceive me, or did you just confirm my post and then say that’s not what liberals think? You are so incredibly dumb, it actually hurts me.

People as stupid as yourself, snowpet, will have no place in a communistic society except as the useful idiot you are. You have shown quite clearly your ignorance of the whole idea of a Constitution, liberty, free will, and rights that come from GOD, rather than a liberal “benevolent” government that produces NOTHING. Stunning.

Sorry I believe that you shouldn’t let people die from starvation, lack of medical care, because they are a muslim, or because they are an immigrant. I guess I’m at odds with most Republicans these days. It’s incredibely easy to piss you lot of losers off because rationality seems to cause a fear response in your puny little brains. Just go back to the soothing sounds of Fox News, a channel that changes reality so it’s viewers don’t leave.

Snowspot said:
Sorry I believe that you shouldn’t let people die from starvation, lack of medical care, because they are a muslim, or because they are an immigrant. I guess I’m at odds with most Republicans these days. It’s incredibely easy to piss you lot of losers off because rationality seems to cause a fear response in your puny little brains. Just go back to the soothing sounds of Fox News, a channel that changes reality so it’s viewers don’t leave.

well then, i am needing some food and since i have a right to it, i will be over later to raid your refrigerator, since i have a right to it

Snowspot said:
Sorry I believe that you shouldn’t let people die from starvation, lack of medical care, because they are a muslim, or because they are an immigrant. I guess I’m at odds with most Republicans these days. It’s incredibely easy to piss you lot of losers off because rationality seems to cause a fear response in your puny little brains. Just go back to the soothing sounds of Fox News, a channel that changes reality so it’s viewers don’t leave.

That’s all very commendable. I suppose you’re doing something to feed the hungry and heal the sick, then? Besides bleating your ignorance on the internet, I mean.

cjd ohio 1 said:
well then, i am needing some food and since i have a right to it, i will be over later to raid your refrigerator, since i have a right to it

I’d actually offer it if you were starving, just ask, you don’t have to steal. Some people don’t mind sharing their extra stuff if it helps people.

You really think I’m advocating stealing because I think people shouldn’t starve to death? Maybe you’re just really cynical.

Snowspot said:
Sorry I believe that you shouldn’t let people die from starvation, lack of medical care, because they are a muslim, or because they are an immigrant.

That is why our Founders wrote the Constitution, so that we would be equal in our pursuit to seek these things (that you think are owed to you by…government!?), for ourselves AND our fellow man, but you’ve already show your complete ignorance as to how that explicitly applies to your deep concern of plight of the disadvantaged throughout the world. Bummer for you, snowpet.

Snowspot said:
I’d actually offer it if you were starving, just ask, you don’t have to steal. Some people don’t mind sharing their extra stuff if it helps people. You really think I’m advocating stealing because I think people shouldn’t starve to death? Maybe you’re just really cynical.

but you said i have the right, you have no choice but to share , remember

Snowspot said:
I’d actually offer it if you were starving, just ask, you don’t have to steal. Some people don’t mind sharing their extra stuff if it helps people. You really think I’m advocating stealing because I think people shouldn’t starve to death? Maybe you’re just really cynical.

charity is great, and caring for others is great also, but when you mandate things its not sharing anymore

Snowspot said:
cjd ohio 1 said:
well then, i am needing some food and since i have a right to it, i will be over later to raid your refrigerator, since i have a right to it

Snowpet would rather that the GOVERNMENT take it from you to GIVE to someone else. That way it is NOT stealing, because it is a right of the other person. To be fed, clothed, housed, cared for, given free abortions, educated and comforted by someone else. The government. The government creates food, clothing, houses, medicine, education, cars, laptops, iPhones, air conditioning, electricity, gas, etc, all out of pixie dust!

ndanielson said:
Snowpet would rather that the GOVERNMENT take it from you to GIVE to someone else. That way it is NOT stealing, because it is a right of the other person. To be fed, clothed, housed, cared for, given free abortions, educated and comforted by someone else. The government. The government creates food, clothing, houses, medicine, education, cars, laptops, iPhones, air conditioning, electricity, gas, etc, all out of pixie dust!

Wow, snowpet, that gets us right back to the age old question, why not just ALL work for government? From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs. Wow, comrade! Why not just make everybody a GOVERNMENT WORKER! Why has no one EVER thought of that before!? Quick, someone tell 0bama! Snowpet, you genius! Hey, snowpet, pretty soon we will all be working for government! Cool, huh?

It’s great that Snowspot is such a big advocate of sharing. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have anything to share besides his shitty comics. But at least he is willing to heroically take other people’s belongings at gunpoint and redistribute them however a government that can’t find its own ass with both hands and a map sees fit.

BadGenome said:
It’s great that Snowspot is such a big advocate of sharing. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have anything to share besides his shitty comics. But at least he is willing to heroically take other people’s belongings at gunpoint and redistribute them however a government that can’t find its own ass with both hands and a map sees fit.

But, 0bama’s entire cabinet are liberal geniuses with elite pedigrees from elite colleges who know how to run anything and everything. Right? They’ll distribute the wealth properly this time. Right? They’ve all had real jobs before. Right? They KNOW how a country of happy citizens should be ruled this time. Right?

BadGenome said:
It’s great that Snowspot is such a big advocate of sharing. It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have anything to share besides his shitty comics. But at least he is willing to heroically take other people’s belongings at gunpoint and redistribute them however a government that can’t find its own ass with both hands and a map sees fit.

lol where did you hear about my shitty comics, I just started my first, I take it this isn’t an endorsement?

ndanielson said:
Wow, snowpet, that gets us right back to the age old question, why not just ALL work for government? From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs. Wow, comrade! Why not just make everybody a GOVERNMENT WORKER! Why has no one EVER thought of that before!? Quick, someone tell 0bama! Snowpet, you genius! Hey, snowpet, pretty soon we will all be working for government! Cool, huh?

This sounds a lot like what the old man was yelling at me from his cardboard box the other day.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP WITH THE TARA SHOW POP UPS…. it is making this site unreadable

Does this mean we get a first lady who is HOT and doesn look like a shemale with a size 44 azz and a underbite?

Snowspot said:
This sounds a lot like what the old man was yelling at me from his cardboard box the other day.

Well we all know what a waste of time it is then, huh?

Snowpet’s utopia:

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularized by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.[1] The phrase summarizes the principles that, in a communist society, every person should contribute to society to the best of his or her ability and consume from society in proportion to his or her needs. In the Marxist view, such an arrangement will be made possible by the abundance of goods and services that a developed communist society will produce; the idea is that there will be enough to satisfy everyone’s needs.

Is it any wonder liberals are dangerous?

Snowspot said:
lol where did you hear about my shitty comics, I just started my first, I take it this isn’t an endorsement?

Snowspot said:
This sounds a lot like what the old man was yelling at me from his cardboard box the other day.

just trying to change the subject, seems you opinions backed you into a corner now and you can’t defend them

cjd ohio 1 said:
just trying to change the subject, seems you opinions backed you into a corner now and you can’t defend them

I didn’t bring up my comics, that sounds like changing the subject if you ask me…. what can I say to your “goverment jobs” rant, you’re a radical. We’ve had “goverment jobs” since the country started, it’s not a new concept, and we never devolved into socialist bottom-feeders. Most of the country is hard-working people, even these “government workers” you seem to think are trying to ruin America. There’s no debating with it, just have to point out it’s bizarre and weird that you say those things.

Snowspot said:
I didn’t bring up my comics, that sounds like changing the subject if you ask me…. what can I say to your “goverment jobs” rant, you’re a radical. We’ve had “goverment jobs” since the country started, it’s not a new concept, and we never devolved into socialist bottom-feeders. Most of the country is hard-working people, even these “government workers” you seem to think are trying to ruin America. There’s no debating with it, just have to point out it’s bizarre and weird that you say those things.

re-read, it was not me

BadGenome said:
It’s unfortunate he doesn’t have anything to share besides his shitty comics. But at least he is willing to heroically take other people’s belongings at gunpoint and redistribute them however a government that can’t find its own ass with both hands and a map sees fit.

Yep, pretty much decided to bail on his government should care for everyone point of view, and run with the cop out if you ask me.

cjd ohio 1 said:
just trying to change the subject, seems you opinions backed you into a corner now and you can’t defend them

But that is the liberal way. Obfuscate, dodge, deceit, lie. Not necessarily in that order.

Hey snowpet, after everything is “free” you can never take it back:

After blitz of the Ritz, it’s the siege of Fortnum & Mason: Anarchists hijack the anti-cuts demo and go on rampage in central London.

Nice…Isn’t socialism great???

Earlier, around 500,000 activists and campaigners descended on London this morning to protest at the Government’s drastic cuts programme.

But while the main march and rally in Hyde Park, which was addressed by Labour leader Ed Miliband, remained peaceful, splinter groups of anarchists went wild.

Hundreds of activists – many wearing masks and hoods – disrupted traffic, set off fireworks and flares in the busiest areas of the city including Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Street and Regent Street.

Lightbulbs filled with ammonia and paintbombs were thrown at police as they desperately tried to keep the peace.

Topshop and HSBC had their windows smashed, while paint and glass bottles were thrown at a Royal Bank of Scotland branch. The marauders also attacked The Ritz near Green Park, where they smashed windows with bins and road signs.

UK Uncut, an anti-cuts direct action group, later occupied the Fortnum & Mason store in Piccadilly, claiming the firm had ‘dodged’ paying taxes.

Nine arrests were made and some police officers were injured.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370053/Anti-cuts-demo-Protesters-occupy-Fortnum–Mason-half-million-march-London.html#ixzz1HkLSBoJ3

Half a million showed up to not only demand free cheese, but MORE free cheese. It’s never enough in a socialistic society. Then the money runs out…

This satire by Maher is nothing short of brilliant. If it wasn’t, there would be no need for conservatives to be in here trying to convince everyone that it isn’t.

Here’s why it’s brilliant. The coming 2012 election is about the ideological divide in America by two groups that think that they love “their” country. One side, thinks that gluttony and sloth is a bad thing, and that the gap between the rich and poor should be reasonable. The other side, thinks that gluttony and sloth, and a tremendous (read that infinite) gap, between the rich and the poor, is a God given right that is also guaranteed by the Constitution.

Maher has brilliantly nailed the 2012 argument. The conservative, Ayn Rand bots, want the right to be obese, unhealthy, and tremendously/infinitely rich. What makes it all so tragically funny, is the absurdity ot its consequences.

If conservatives win, America ends up becoming the “United States of Gluttony and Sloth”, the nation of rich, and poor, human dumplings.

How cool will that be, America?

Klaatu said:
How cool will that be, America?

Not as cool as socialism, and mob rule, huh, dumpling?

Bill Maher described the primary challenger of Barak Hussain Obama.

It was another beached whale – eerily similar to Maher’s vision – who challenged the first Obama, commonly known as Jimmy Carter in 1976.

This Klaatu guy cracks me the hell up. He’s gotta be a spoof account, right? I mean, no one could seriously think the defining issue of the 2012 election is Michelle Obama’s Let’s Move! bullshit.

Yukon Jack said:
Bill Maher described the primary challenger of Barak Hussain Obama.

It was another beached whale – eerily similar to Maher’s vision – who challenged the first Obama, commonly known as Jimmy Carter in 1976.

As I recall, it wasn’t a beached whale but a swimming rabbit that challenged Jimmy Carter.

That is a totally unnecessary shot at Rush Limbaugh.

Oh, and has anyone noticed that right now we have a black, skinny, big-eared, idiot?

Klatuu opined:

“The character that Maher used to portray Karab Amabo looks just like Rush Limbaugh. ”

Actually, Karab Amabo looks just like Teddy Kennedy.

Yukon Jack said:
Klatuu opined:

“The character that Maher used to portray Karab Amabo looks just like Rush Limbaugh. ”

Actually, Karab Amabo looks just like Teddy Kennedy.

With your eyes closed maybe.

Bill Adkins said:

“The greatest problem facing this nation is creeping ignorance.”

True enough, started, practiced and promulgated by unionized indoctrinators… eh.. teachers.

Yukon Jack said:
Bill Adkins said:

“The greatest problem facing this nation is creeping ignorance.”

True enough, started, practiced and promulgated by unionized indoctrinators… eh.. teachers.

Obviously that’s true with regard to your teachers.

ndanielson said:
Not as cool as socialism, and mob rule, huh, dumpling?

What an incredibly insightful and powerful refutation of my argument. You’re a graduate of the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced Man Dumpling Studies, I take it?

caconservative said:
Being against everything Obimbo is for, is wrong? I thought that was just the use of good common sense. The exact opposite of Obimbo would, be a person of integrity, character, knowledge of foreign, and domestic policy, and an innate ability to make decisions. A person who would find it impertinent to be playing basketball, or running out of the country every time a hard decision has to be made. Actually though, if you think about it, the person Maher is describing is more suited for the job than “I don’t need no stinking birth certificate” Obimbo!

Liberals judge Obama by the color of his skin. Conservatives Judge Obama by the content of his character.

Yukon Jack said:
Liberals judge Obama by the color of his skin. Conservatives Judge Obama by the content of his character.

Bravo Yukon Jack, bravo!! You’re making me misty. LMAO!!

BadGenome said:
This Klaatu guy cracks me the hell up. He’s gotta be a spoof account, right? I mean, no one could seriously think the defining issue of the 2012 election is Michelle Obama’s Let’s Move! bullshit.

That isn’t what I’m suggesting. I’m suggesting that “Let’s Move” vs “Karab Amabo” is a microcosm of Liberalism vs Conservatism. The question will be decided in 2012. You could hear the defeat in Limbaugh’s voice yesterday. Go listen to the tapes.

Yukon Jack said:
Liberals judge Obama by the color of his skin. Conservatives Judge Obama by the content of his character.

Sorry old chap, you have it exactly backasswards. They call it “projection”. See Freud.

Klaatu said:
What an incredibly insightful and powerful refutation of my argument. You’re a graduate of the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced Man Dumpling Studies, I take it?

And you’re a proud drop out who needs government level the playing field enough for you to wipe your own a$$ right, sweetpea?

Garth said:
Bravo Yukon Jack, bravo!! You’re making me misty. LMAO!!

Watch it Klaatu, he’s breaking out the kneepads.

Yukon Jack said:
Liberals judge Obama by the color of his skin. Conservatives Judge Obama by the content of his character.

Conservatives attack the socialist programs, liberals attack the person threatening their free cheese.

Klaatu is probably GlennBunnyClown. We know it ain’t BlueBonnet, cuz BB hasn’t figured out that caps thingy yet…

ndanielson said:
And you’re a proud drop out who needs government level the playing field enough for you to wipe your own a$$ right, sweetpea?

Another insightful rebuttal. The poopy pants ploy. Oh my, you’re such a clever GOP strategist, what are Democrats to do?

Again, thankfully, the Republican party is being hijacked by the far-right wing weirdos like Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Gingrich, Bachmann, Huckabee… God, there’s too many to mention. None of these fools and their archaic views have ANY chance of forging a Republican victory in 2012. I hope they keep trotting them out there – the more America sees, the more they realize the Republican party is a stereotype of itself. Great for us Democrats. Keep vomiting them up on us please!!! The more the merrier!

Newsjunky said:
Again, thankfully, the Republican party is being hijacked by the far-right wing weirdos like Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Gingrich, Bachmann, Huckabee… God, there’s too many to mention. [...] The more the merrier!

I could not agree more. Wise you are.

Maher has said that Obama should act like a ‘real’ black man and carry a gun in his pants. I guess he forgot that Obama is half white. I guess the black half could still carry the gun. Maybe just a .22.

Real men don’t need to carry guns especially if they have the secret service working for them. That being said, I think Karab Amabo looks an awful lot like Haley Barbour.

Glenn, just how much is Maher paying you to keep his ugly mug in circulation? Are you in love with this gutwrench, or what?

There’s a good reason why the official symbol of Liberalism and the DEMOCRAT party is a JACKASS.

ChrisNH said:
There’s a good reason why the official symbol of Liberalism and the DEMOCRAT party is a JACKASS.

Walking around Walmart tonight I have a good idea why the Republicans are elephants then.

It is surely a bother to come up with some line of patter day after day.

It’s funny how liberals always take the low road – name calling, personal attacks, character assassination, etc.. Plus, Maher is profiling. i thought liberals hated profiling!

Klaatu said:
That isn’t what I’m suggesting. I’m suggesting that “Let’s Move” vs “Karab Amabo” is a microcosm of Liberalism vs Conservatism. The question will be decided in 2012. You could hear the defeat in Limbaugh’s voice yesterday. Go listen to the tapes.

Well, this isn’t the first time you’ve brought up this whole “Democrats are svelte, Republicans want to eat as much as they want!” business. Maybe it’s just because I’ve only seen one other post by you and it was the same shit, but it makes it seem like you’re fixated on it. (For the record, have you seen Michael Moore? Or how about Mediaite’s own Tommy Christopher, who is the most profoundly unhealthy looking 40 year old I’ve ever laid eyes on?) Leftists believe a lot of stupid shit, but this is too much. I’m sorry, but I refuse to believe you are not a joke account.

BadGenome said:
Well, this isn’t the first time you’ve brought up this whole “Democrats are svelte, Republicans want to eat as much as they want!” business.

Gee, strawman much? We’ve never implied such a thing, at either the Fast Food Explorer nutrition site, or the Obesity Wars blog.

As a population, obesity levels are probably (just guessing) equally split down party lines. What we are implying, and this is FACT, is that ideologically, the two great political parties, of America, have a different strategy for dealing with childhood obesity in this country. Michelle Obama and the Democratic party have a sane strategy. Rush Limbaugh and his GOP have a strategy that is, well . . .

Let’s face it, Triple Whoppers with Cheese in every school cafeteria, a “Let’s Not Move” message to the youth of America, and a 400lb President to lead by example, seems a bit on the insane side to us. “Hey Billy, let’s grow up to be like the President!” Good plan.

And, as far as most of our comments being related to the subject of the GOP meme that obesity and unhealthiness are a “freedom” for all Americans, it’s called “staying on topic”. It’s one of the predominant themes of Maher’s brilliantly satirical monologue. Add to that, that the Fast Food Explorer is designed to help America’s youth avoid obesity, and it’s also our “business”.

Klaatu said:
Let’s face it, Triple Whoppers with Cheese in every school cafeteria, a “Let’s Not Move” message to the youth of America, and a 400lb President to lead by example, seems a bit on the insane side to us. “Hey Billy, let’s grow up to be like the President!” Good plan.

Gee, strawman much?

I’d really appreciate it if you wouldn’t use your responses to my posts to promote your lame blogs, by the way.

BadGenome said:
Gee, strawman much? I’d really appreciate it if you wouldn’t use your responses to my posts to promote your lame blogs, by the way.

Actually, there’s only one blog, and it’s only been live about two weeks. And, for being so “lame”, the Obesity Wars blog sure got under Mr.Limbaugh’s skin in a hurry.

As for the Fast Food Explorer, it’s not a blog, it’s a nutritional database designed to help America’s children make informed decisions when ordering fast food. If, that is, they would like to avoid obesity and the medical complications associated with it. We need no promotion. Our traffic taxes our host’s server, as it is. Any more, and we’d just have to move it to a dedicated server.

We will, when commenting on articles like this, continue to use our new Cardio Search to point out the divide between Michelle Obama and the Democratic Party’s strategy to reduce childhood obesity in America, and Rush Limbaugh and the Republican Party’s strategy to reduce childhood obesity in America, because, quite frankly, it rocks! And, additionally, it’s the perfect, precise, laser-like way to demonstrate the absurdity of Mr. Limbaugh and the GOP’s position.

Klaatu said:
Actually, there’s only one blog, and it’s only been live about two weeks. And, for being so “lame”, the Obesity Wars blog sure got under Mr.Limbaugh’s skin in a hurry.

As for the Fast Food Explorer, it’s not a blog, it’s a nutritional database designed to help America’s children make informed decisions when ordering fast food. If, that is, they would like to avoid obesity and the medical complications associated with it. We need no promotion. Our traffic taxes our host’s server, as it is. Any more, and we’d just have to move it to a dedicated server.

We will, when commenting on articles like this, continue to use our new Cardio Search to point out the divide between Michelle Obama and the Democratic Party’s strategy to reduce childhood obesity in America, and Rush Limbaugh and the Republican Party’s strategy to reduce childhood obesity in America, because, quite frankly, it rocks! And, additionally, it’s the perfect, precise, laser-like way to demonstrate the absurdity of Mr. Limbaugh and the GOP’s position.

I think I remember playing Obesity Wars on the Atari 2600.

Anyway, what’s with all this “we” stuff? Is it like the royal “we”, or is your account used by more than one person? I was going to accuse you of lying earlier, but it seems you’re unaware that someone posting under your name made the risible assertion in a previous post that the 2012 election will be decided on the basis of food policy. You might want to consider changing the password to lock that individual out, as he/she makes all of “you” look silly.

BadGenome said:
Gee, strawman much?

If you’re going to call that paragraph a “strawman” argument, as it relates to the subject of an obese presidential candidate, promoting unbound, unregulated, unsafe, uninformed consummerism, it would be just peachy if you would try to explain why. Otherwise, it just comes off precisely as Maher suggests at the start of the video.

“If the Republicans idea of governing is just being against everything the President is for, then they have to change their name to ‘The I know you are but what am I’ Party.

BadGenome said:
I think I remember playing Obesity Wars on the Atari 2600. Anyway, what’s with all this “we” stuff? Is it like the royal “we”, or is your account used by more than one person? I was going to accuse you of lying earlier, but it seems you’re unaware that someone posting under your name made the risible assertion in a previous post that the 2012 election will be decided on the basis of food policy. You might want to consider changing the password to lock that individual out, as he/she makes all of “you” look silly.

They call it the editorial “we”. One of the perks of signing the checks. It allows me to speak for everyone at the Explorer. WE, are going to guess that you’re referring to this earlier statement.

“Like it, or not, GOP, 2012 is going to be framed as the battle between the party that believes in a government that wants healthy children, against the party that thinks that children have the constitutional right to be as morbidly obese as they choose to be – without the “nanny state” telling them how many calories are in their Big Mac!”

Nowhere in that statement does it infer that “the 2012 election will be decided on the basis of food policy”. It infers, correctly so, that food policy is a microcosm of the Liberal vs Conservative political ideology, and that it will be a major component in the framing of the 2012 election. WE stand by it.

How can a rotund, sturdy, heavy-set … hey let’s call a spade a spade (no pun intended) … FAT and thunder-thigh lady come and lecture about dieting and nutrition.

And another thing: Let Obama quit smoking. In no time he will be just as rotund, sturdy, heavy-set … yeah, FAT as Michelle.

Klaatu said:
If you’re going to call that paragraph a “strawman” argument, as it relates to the subject of an obese presidential candidate, promoting unbound, unregulated, unsafe, uninformed consummerism, it would be just peachy if you would try to explain why. Otherwise, it just comes off precisely as Maher suggests at the start of the video.

“If the Republicans idea of governing is just being against everything the President is for, then they have to change their name to ‘The I know you are but what am I’ Party.

Er… you do know Karab Amabo isn’t a real person, right?

I’m not a Republican, but if they ever change their name to the “Leave me the f*ck alone, you do-gooder shithead” Party, I might just become one.

Klaatu said:
They call it the editorial “we”. One of the perks of signing the checks. It allows me to speak for everyone at the Explorer. WE, are going to guess that you’re referring to this earlier statement.

“Like it, or not, GOP, 2012 is going to be framed as the battle between the party that believes in a government that wants healthy children, against the party that thinks that children have the constitutional right to be as morbidly obese as they choose to be – without the “nanny state” telling them how many calories are in their Big Mac!”

Nowhere in that statement does it infer that “the 2012 election will be decided on the basis of food policy”. It infers, correctly so, that food policy is a microcosm of the Liberal vs Conservative political ideology, and that it will be a major component in the framing of the 2012 election. WE stand by it.

Well, we hope that you (however many of you there are) are right about that. We also hope that people make the right choice, but we must admit that our faith in humanity is somewhat shaken by the fact that you are signing anyone’s checks.

BadGenome said:
Er… you do know Karab Amabo isn’t a real person, right?

Yes indeed, indeed we do. Karab Amabo is a characture of the GOP”s “United States of Gluttony and Sloth” ideology.

You’re not a “Republican”, but you consider the Democratic Party the “do-gooder shithead” Party? Sure, that’s believable.

Klaatu said:
Yes indeed, indeed we do. Karab Amabo is a characture of the GOP”s “United States of Gluttony and Sloth” ideology.

You’re not a “Republican”, but you consider the Democratic Party the “do-gooder shithead” Party? Sure, that’s believable.

“Consummerism”… “characature”… are you _sure_ you’re an editor? At any rate, I think the Democrats’ welfarism has contributed far more to sloth and gluttony than whatever it is the GOP did to put such a bee in your bonnet. Something about wanting to force feed triple cheeseburgers to infants, I gather… it’s a little hard to suss out.

I’m not sure what’s so unbelievable about that. Lots of libertarians hate the Democrats even more than they do the Republicans. While the Republican Party has more than their fair share of busybodies, the Dems take the low sodium, transfat free cake.

BadGenome said:
We also hope that people make the right choice…

“Hope” doesn’t get you very far when it comes to avoiding obesity. Governor Christie almost certainly hopes that his friend, Rush Limbaugh, is right, and that the parents of America will, all of a sudden, get their act together, without the aid of the “frickin’ nanny state”, and cure childhood obesity in America. Well, Mr. Christie, Mr. Romney, Mr. Pawlenty, Mrs. Palin, et al, can hope all they want. Those parents, without a “push” from a governed society, will never in a million years, steer children into making the “right choices”. The First Lady’s “Let’s Move” initiative is the only path that will ever make a dent in this crisis.

And it is a “crisis”.

Where is America’s military going to get recruits, 30 years from now, if they, the military, are already calling the obesity problem, with potential recruits, a “crisis” now?

BadGenome said:
“Consummerism”… “characature”… are you _sure_ you’re an editor? At any rate, I think the Democrats’ welfarism has contributed far more to sloth and gluttony than whatever it is the GOP did to put such a bee in your bonnet. Something about wanting to force feed triple cheeseburgers to infants, I gather… it’s a little hard to suss out. I’m not sure what’s so unbelievable about that. Lots of libertarians hate the Democrats even more than they do the Republicans. While the Republican Party has more than their fair share of busybodies, the Dems take the low sodium, transfat free cake.

A spelling nazi, eh? Consummerism was a typo, characature was just a bad self edit. I started to phrase it “characterization”, backed up, to change it to caricature, and flubbed it. Busted, I’m so ashamed. And, just for the sake of clarity, I never said I was an editor, I said that I was using the editorial “we”.

Well, since we know that even the Founding Fathers misspelled words, ocassionally, and that Einstein said this about the English language, “I cannot write in english, because of the treacherous spelling . . .”, I’ll consider myself in good company.

“Something about wanting to force feed triple cheeseburgers to infants, I gather… it’s a little hard to suss out.” – BadGenome

Again with the strawman. We never said one thing about “force feeding”. But if Limbaugh’s GOP gets its way, those Triple Cheeseburgers, with super sized fries, and a super sized Coke, would be available in every school room cafeteria, in America, super sizing our children. And yes, we do have a “bee in our bonnet” trying to suss that concept.

Seriously, why does anyone listen to Maher? He’s rude, vindictive, ugly and he’s not funny! Seriously folks.

Klaatu said:
Well, since we know that even the Founding Fathers misspelled words, ocassionally, and that Einstein said this about the English language, “I cannot write in english, because of the treacherous spelling . . .”, I’ll consider myself in good company.

Since Einstein was a genius and spoke English as a second language, we’ll give him a pass. At least the Founding Fathers only ocassionally (sic) misspelled words, instead of constantly.

Why is it you think “Rush Limbaugh” is a GOP policy, now? I mean, I take it that he referenced your little blog and in so doing made your day or life or whatever, but if you want to be taken seriously it’s probably best to not reference him in every single post. You seem to me to be obsessed with the guy.

I agree that parenting is a big part of the issue, but as I said before, welfarism plays a huge role here. As the welfare state flourished, so did the number of single-parent and no-parent homes, which should be no surprise to anyone since if you subsidize something, you’ll only get more of it. Now in many communities the very culture of the family has been utterly destroyed. Poverty and broken homes go hand in hand, and obesity is nowadays a trait of the poor, not the wealthy as it was in the past, so you do the math. Nannying got us in the mess, so you’ll have to excuse my skepticism toward the idea that more nannying will get us out of it.

remoriah said:
Seriously, why does anyone listen to Maher? He’s rude, vindictive, ugly and he’s not funny! Seriously folks.

For just those reasons: he’s exactly like them.

Obesity isn’t just about will power. It’s economics. A block of Velveeta the size of a car battery is cheaper than a small pack of non-fat cheese. One tomato costs as much as a bag of candy. A Lean Cuisine frozen dinner costs three times as much as a cheap, fat-loaded TV dinner. If you’re really going to attack obesity, you need to start with that.

Klaatu said:
But if Limbaugh’s GOP gets its way, those Triple Cheeseburgers, with super sized fries, and a super sized Coke, would be available in every school room cafeteria, in America, super sizing our children. And yes, we do have a “bee in our bonnet” trying to suss that concept.

That could only happen because of the un-Constitutional federal take-over of the education system that the anti-American Left perpetrated against this nation.

remoriah said:
Seriously, why does anyone listen to Maher? He’s rude, vindictive, ugly and he’s not funny! Seriously folks.

Is it just me, or does Maher’s face really look like a foot?

Davo said:
Is it just me, or does Maher’s face really look like a foot?

More like something you’d slather an ointment on to remove it from your foot.

Palin’s mosquito comparison was spot on. Something tiny with a large proboscis.

writer said:
Obesity isn’t just about will power. It’s economics. A block of Velveeta the size of a car battery is cheaper than a small pack of non-fat cheese. One tomato costs as much as a bag of candy. A Lean Cuisine frozen dinner costs three times as much as a cheap, fat-loaded TV dinner. If you’re really going to attack obesity, you need to start with that.

Agreed, but can’t people just understand and learn that maybe they should choose an apple or banana over a bag of chips and soda. Eating off the dollar menu at fast food joints can be cheap, but somewhere in your head you ought to understand how bad it is.
I think I read somewhere that our taste buds actually get programed a little too, for salt, sweet, and fat. We need to reprogram. and on that note, I’ll haul my fat butt away from the computer ……

True, Cosmos. But when getting a week’s worth of groceries, the car battery sized block of Velveeta stretches much further than the six slices of non-fat cheese. Rich people like Maher can afford to buy the higher priced healthy foods. Which is fortunate, since just keeping his nose nourished must cost a fortune.

blockquote cite=”comment-382831″>BadGenome said:
Since Einstein was a genius and spoke English as a second language, we’ll give him a pass. At least the Founding Fathers only ocassionally (sic) misspelled words, instead of constantly.So far, you’ve caught three out of thousands of words, so I think your “constantly” spin, is just that, spin. Everyone must certainly be impressed with your ability to cut and past from Word.

BadGenome said:
Why is it you think “Rush Limbaugh” is a GOP policy, now?

Because . . . someone in the GOP seems to be aplologising to him almost every day, maybe?

BadGenome said:
I mean, I take it that he referenced your little blog and in so doing made your day or life or whatever, but if you want to be taken seriously it’s probably best to not reference him in every single post. You seem to me to be obsessed with the guy.

Actually, it was a Freudian slip, by Mr. Limbaugh, that let us know that a specific post had gotten under his skin. And then, it was his not responding to it that indicates how deeply under the skin that post gets. Rush always mocks his mockers, until now that is. Limbaugh will have to address it at some point, but he will lose that argument when the time comes. The evidence that his diet was a hoax, though circumstantial, is too powerful, and there’s a mountain of it. Concerning an “obsession”, we’ve created a blog, and a search function on the Explorer, specifically to address the opposing strategies of the First Lady, and Rush Limbaugh, on how to best reduce childhood obesity in America. So, it really wouldn’t make a lot of sense for us to come in here and start posting comments about Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, or any of the spokespersons for the GOP, now would it? Your “obsession” strawman will go nowhere with us.

BadGenome said:
I agree that parenting is a big part of the issue, but as I said before, welfarism plays a huge role here. As the welfare state flourished, so did the number of single-parent and no-parent homes, which should be no surprise to anyone since if you subsidize something, you’ll only get more of it. Now in many communities the very culture of the family has been utterly destroyed. Poverty and broken homes go hand in hand, and obesity is nowadays a trait of the poor, not the wealthy as it was in the past, so you do the math. Nannying got us in the mess, so you’ll have to excuse my skepticism toward the idea that more nannying will get us out of it.

Fast food is cheap, processed food is cheap, so it’s perfectly understandable that “the poor” make up the largest portion of its consumer base. But, your blaming that, on the “nanny state” is straight out of Limbaugh’s playbook. “Let’s Move” and the President’s Hunger-free Kids Act is designed to reduce the consumption of subsidized foods by school children, and the First Lady isn’t telling anyone what they can or can’t eat. “Let’s Move” is about what foods are being made available to children, during the school day, and educating those children about what makes a human morbidly obese. So, basically, your argument has more holes than subsidized swiss cheese.

Lost one of those rascally less than markup symbols. Yo, Mediaite! Can’t let us have a preview functiion? The first section, above, should have looked like this:

BadGenome said:
Since Einstein was a genius and spoke English as a second language, we’ll give him a pass. At least the Founding Fathers only ocassionally (sic) misspelled words, instead of constantly.

So far, you’ve caught three out of thousands of words, so I think your “constantly” spin, is just that, spin. Everyone must certainly be impressed with your ability to cut and past from Word.

Bill Maher is absolutely the best. He gets the teabaggers so mad because of his satire. And they know that there is truth in satire. Matter of fact, that’s what satire is.. Bill, you are # 1!

Klaatu said:
blockquote cite=”comment-382831″>BadGenome said:Since Einstein was a genius and spoke English as a second language, we’ll give him a pass. At least the Founding Fathers only ocassionally (sic) misspelled words, instead of constantly.So far, you’ve caught three out of thousands of words, so I think your “constantly” spin, is just that, spin. Everyone must certainly be impressed with your ability to cut and past from Word. Because . . . someone in the GOP seems to be aplologising to him almost every day, maybe? Actually, it was a Freudian slip, by Mr. Limbaugh, that let us know that a specific post had gotten under his skin. And then, it was his not responding to it that indicates how deeply under the skin that post gets. Rush always mocks his mockers, until now that is. Limbaugh will have to address it at some point, but he will lose that argument when the time comes. The evidence that his diet was a hoax, though circumstantial, is too powerful, and there’s a mountain of it. Concerning an “obsession”, we’ve created a blog, and a search function on the Explorer, specifically to address the opposing strategies of the First Lady, and Rush Limbaugh, on how to best reduce childhood obesity in America. So, it really wouldn’t make a lot of sense for us to come in here and start posting comments about Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, or any of the spokespersons for the GOP, now would it? Your “obsession” strawman will go nowhere with us. Fast food is cheap, processed food is cheap, so it’s perfectly understandable that “the poor” make up the largest portion of its consumer base. But, your blaming that, on the “nanny state” is straight out of Limbaugh’s playbook. “Let’s Move” and the President’s Hunger-free Kids Act is designed to reduce the consumption of subsidized foods by school children, and the First Lady isn’t telling anyone what they can or can’t eat. “Let’s Move” is about what foods are being made available to children, during the school day, and educating those children about what makes a human morbidly obese. So, basically, your argument has more holes than subsidized swiss cheese.

Being a personal trainer there is absolutely no-way Limbaugh could lose 90 lbs in 3 months! And not even working out to boot that he claimed he didn’t. I mean if that was the case every person overweight would go on Rush’s diet.I know that to be impossible to lose that kind of weight in that amount of time by any normal means.

Klaatu said:
blockquote cite=”comment-382831″>BadGenome said:Since Einstein was a genius and spoke English as a second language, we’ll give him a pass. At least the Founding Fathers only ocassionally (sic) misspelled words, instead of constantly.So far, you’ve caught three out of thousands of words, so I think your “constantly” spin, is just that, spin. Everyone must certainly be impressed with your ability to cut and past from Word. Because . . . someone in the GOP seems to be aplologising to him almost every day, maybe? Actually, it was a Freudian slip, by Mr. Limbaugh, that let us know that a specific post had gotten under his skin. And then, it was his not responding to it that indicates how deeply under the skin that post gets. Rush always mocks his mockers, until now that is. Limbaugh will have to address it at some point, but he will lose that argument when the time comes. The evidence that his diet was a hoax, though circumstantial, is too powerful, and there’s a mountain of it. Concerning an “obsession”, we’ve created a blog, and a search function on the Explorer, specifically to address the opposing strategies of the First Lady, and Rush Limbaugh, on how to best reduce childhood obesity in America. So, it really wouldn’t make a lot of sense for us to come in here and start posting comments about Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, or any of the spokespersons for the GOP, now would it? Your “obsession” strawman will go nowhere with us. Fast food is cheap, processed food is cheap, so it’s perfectly understandable that “the poor” make up the largest portion of its consumer base. But, your blaming that, on the “nanny state” is straight out of Limbaugh’s playbook. “Let’s Move” and the President’s Hunger-free Kids Act is designed to reduce the consumption of subsidized foods by school children, and the First Lady isn’t telling anyone what they can or can’t eat. “Let’s Move” is about what foods are being made available to children, during the school day, and educating those children about what makes a human morbidly obese. So, basically, your argument has more holes than subsidized swiss cheese.

Let me in on that blog if you would please. Thanks.

glenn113 said:
Bill Maher is absolutely the best. He gets the teabaggers so mad because of his satire. And they know that there is truth in satire. Matter of fact, that’s what satire is.. Bill, you are # 1!

It’s amazing that conservatives can’t quite get their arms around that concept. Don’t they get it? Don’t they wonder why there are no successful conservative satirists with a live audience? They don’t have enough “truth”, in their material, to make good satire. It almost always falls short. Listen to Beck’s “comedy” attempt at satire on TV. You’ll hear plenty of applause from his audience, but not much laughter. When you do, it seems forced and feigned.

glenn113 said:
Let me in on that blog if you would please. Thanks.

Click on “Klaatu says:” at the top of one my comments. Make sure that you try a few “Cardio Searches” on the parent site, The Fast Food Explorer. That search helps illustrate, numerically, the difference in the philosophical argument between the First Lady and Mr. Limbaugh, about the solution to childhood obesity,.

Klaatu said:
Click on “Klaatu says:” at the top of one my comments. Make sure that you try a few “Cardio Searches” on the parent site, The Fast Food Explorer. That search helps illustrate, numerically, the difference in the philosophical argument between the First Lady and Mr. Limbaugh, about the solution to childhood obesity,.

I tried but didn’t find the answer…well, anyway I know it is definately some type of surgery. When I first heard all the weight he lost that was the first thing that came to mind. There is nobody that can lose that kind of weight, that fast, at his age and without working out. I know being a personal trainer. And then all his mysterious abscenses from polluting the airwaves. So, I can’t figure out by the hints you gave me but I know it’s not natural.

glenn113 said:
Being a personal trainer there is absolutely no-way Limbaugh could lose 90 lbs in 3 months! And not even working out to boot that he claimed he didn’t. I mean if that was the case every person overweight would go on Rush’s diet.I know that to be impossible to lose that kind of weight in that amount of time by any normal means.

Actually, the claim was 80 pounds in 21 weeks, which is almost five months. But that’s still, according to science, impossible without drugs or exercise, on a 1500 calorie per day diet. When Mr. Limbaugh eventually announced that the weight loss was taking place (it was starting to be obvious) he tried to cover the tracks of what he had really done, by moving the “start date” of his weight loss, He goofed by pushing that date forward instead of backwards. His being “science challenged”, came back to bite him on the butt.

And who would even care about hurting Limbaugh’s feelings. Hell, he does that full time to poor people who are poor, less fortunate and everything else. I always thought Rush was kinda funny but what really turned me on him was when he encouraged his listeners to call up food banks for the poor and play crank phone calls on their staff. And I heard the whole thing. What type of sick s.o.b. would even think of that. Entertainment, comedy whatever is one thing. That is total crap because you know all his dittohead sheep will do that for real… man I was pissed.

Klaatu said:
Actually, the claim was 80 pounds in 21 weeks, which is almost five months. But that’s still, according to science, impossible without drugs or exercise, on a 1500 calorie per day diet. When Mr. Limbaugh eventually announced that the weight loss was taking place (it was starting to be obvious) he tried to cover the tracks of what he had really done, by moving the “start date” of his weight loss, He goofed by pushing that date forward instead of backwards. His being “science challenged”, came back to bite him on the butt.

I will give Limbaugh credit for one thing which was kicking his Oxy addiction if he indeed did. I would never make fun of him about that because I know what that can be like so he has my support on the only thing ever. While we are on a roll about blasting Limbaugh, have you ever seen this 4 page Official Dept. of Homeland Security Document I dug up a while back when he went to the Dominican Republic with somebody else rx of Viagra? Check it out. There are four pages to it. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/rush-limbaughs-dominican-stag-party?page=2

glenn113 said:
I tried but didn’t find the answer…well, anyway I know it is definately some type of surgery. When I first heard all the weight he lost that was the first thing that came to mind. There is nobody that can lose that kind of weight, that fast, at his age and without working out. I know being a personal trainer. And then all his mysterious abscenses from polluting the airwaves. So, I can’t figure out by the hints you gave me but I know it’s not natural.

Glenn, if the answer was a snake, it would bite you. If you want the absolute, definitive answer, you’ll have to do a little more research on rapid weight loss solutions, and what can be accomplished, and covered up, with only a week long absense from work. It’s really a piece of cake, and obvious, with some research. Gastric-bipass is out, because the recovery time is more than a week. Think about it, the answer is a few Google searches away.

Klaatu said:
Glenn, if the answer was a snake, it would bite you. If you want the absolute, definitive answer, you’ll have to do a little more research on rapid weight loss solutions, and what can be accomplished, and covered up, with only a week long absense from work. It’s really a piece of cake, and obvious, with some research. Gastric-bipass is out, because the recovery time is more than a week. Think about it, the answer is a few Google searches away.

Sorry Klaatu. You got me.. I thought it was some type of Gastric-bypass. The only other thing I found were meds to help you lose weight. Donno?

I didn’t want a definitive answer. Just an answer for my own curiousity.

glenn113 said:
While we are on a roll about blasting Limbaugh, have you ever seen this 4 page Official Dept. of Homeland Security Document I dug up a while back when he went to the Dominican Republic with somebody else rx of Viagra? Check it out.

That whole viagra episode is a little too speculative for us. Plus, it’s a little too far removed from anything presented in the Maher monologue. We’re trying to stay on topic. Limbaugh’s Dominican Republic Adventures, no matter how debaucherous they may have been, will have zero impact on the 2012 election. Not so, with his “It’s not a ruse!” phony baloney obesity solution. A solution to childhood obesity is on the front burner of American politics, and the expertise, of the “sheppard” of the GOP, must be examined closely. Is Limbaugh’s criticism of the First Lady’s “Let’s Move” initiative, and his suggesting that Michelle is too overweight to lead that initiative, coming from a “credible” expert? The answer is an obvious, no!

glenn113 said:
I didn’t want a definitive answer. Just an answer for my own curiousity.

We don’t mean to make this so difficult, but because there’s no hard evidense, we’re not going to put anything in print that states the obvous and could lead to litigation. Let’s try this, with a little dose of obtuseness. Rush has been researching weight loss and attempting weight loss all his life, right? So, he should know pretty much all there is to know about everything “weight loss”, right?

One time, just after the weight loss was over, a caller, discussing the obesity epidemic, brought up bariatric surgeries and, eventually, mentioned the Lap-band procedure. Interjecting, Rush says, “How do those things work, anyways? They just make it so you don’t want to eat as much?” If you believe that Limbaugh is that ignorant of the Lap-band surgical process, I’ve got a bridge . . .

Lol, I remember that exact conversation too between him and the listener. By that time I already knew is was something like that. Thanks… Did you check out the Dept. of Homeland Security report on elRushbo?

And as we speak we can thank ElRushbo for the “operation chaos” thing he started in 2008. MoveOn.org is in the works of doing the same operation chaos for Michele Bachman. Thanks Rush.

You know what though. Limbaugh’s dittoheads are going to believe him no matter what and we won’t change their vote. 99% of everyone else knows he is a gasbag. So he honestly has no influence on an election except for his “Operation Chaos”. haha

glenn113 said:
You know what though. Limbaugh’s dittoheads are going to believe him no matter what and we won’t change their vote. 99% of everyone else knows he is a gasbag. So he honestly has no influence on an election except for his “Operation Chaos”. haha

Unfortunately, what he does have, is the sheppard’s staff that herds the sheepish GOP legislators. If Rush says that the government should not be involved in rediucing childhood obesity, because it’s bad for Mr. Big, then the GOPsters will unite and say “Yes, Maha Rushie. Your wish, is our command.”

Otherwise, they might have to apologise to Rush the next day.

They also might have to “apologize”. I spotted it as I was hitting the comment button. Just trying to stay one step ahead of the you-know-who spelling Nazi, folks. It’s his favorite, and strongest argument..

Funny how you lefty’s get into your vortex of hate over conservatives. Well,, I guess it isn’t that funny, but rather pathetic.

Alz said:
Funny how you lefty’s get into your vortex of hate over conservatives. Well,, I guess it isn’t that funny, but rather pathetic.

And, the Rush Limbaugh led GOP shows nothing but “love” for liberal American patriots? Is that about right, Alz? Oh, wait, doesn’t your Maha Rushie refers to patriotic liberal Americans as “libs”, that also just happen to be “evil”, “godless”, “cockroaches” and “parasites”, for 15 hours a week, 52 weeks per year? It would seem that you have things exactly reversed, Alz. Do you see “lefties” making “cons” a dirty ephithet? You’re doing exactly what your Pied Piper does. It’s called Freudian projection.

@ Klaatu,

I see what you mean. I just perused the entire thread, and you’re absolutely right. The hook is baited. Can you spot it?

Gort said:
@ Klaatu, I see what you mean. I just perused the entire thread, and you’re absolutely right. The hook is baited. Can you spot it?

It took a couple of reads, but yeah, that ought to work. Now remember what I said Gort, play nice, and don’t do anything silly, like destroying the Earth, unless I give the word.

Sarah Palin said this back on Thursday…

“Upon my return from an outstanding and productive trip to India and Israel, I’ve been inundated with requests to respond to petty comments made in the media the past few days, including one little fella’s comment which decent people would find degrading. (I won’t bother responding to it though, because it was made by he who reminds me of an annoying little mosquito found zipped up in your tent; he can’t do any harm, but buzzes around annoyingly until it’s time to give him the proverbial slap.)”

The title of Sarah’s Facebook piece was “Lamestream Media: Reload or White Flag?” That has to be one of the most confusing arguments about responding to media criticism, that I have ever read. Read in toto, it’s as if she was saying, “I’m reloading against the ‘lamestream media’ with a white flag!” Say what?

I think a good patriotic, liberal American, Jeffersonian prayer is in order.

Dear Gaia (nature’s god), Could you please provide some weather events that would cause Sarah Palin to want to move to Washington D.C., so she can live in the White House? We would be most grateful if you could help us get her on the Republican ticket again. Amen

Gort said:
And, the Rush Limbaugh led GOP shows nothing but “love” for liberal American patriots? Is that about right, Alz? Oh, wait, doesn’t your Maha Rushie refers to patriotic liberal Americans as “libs”, that also just happen to be “evil”, “godless”, “cockroaches” and “parasites”, for 15 hours a week, 52 weeks per year? It would seem that you have things exactly reversed, Alz. Do you see “lefties” making “cons” a dirty ephithet? You’re doing exactly what your Pied Piper does. It’s called Freudian projection.

“liberal American patriots”. That’s an interesting combination of words these days. Today’s “liberal”, which I refer to as Modern Liberal/Progressive” hates Western Civilization and normal American values.

People NEED to point this out.

Alz said:
“liberal American patriots”. That’s an interesting combination of words these days. Today’s “liberal”, which I refer to as Modern Liberal/Progressive” hates Western Civilization and normal American values. People NEED to point this out.

I am a proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American, and I LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values”. And, all of my proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American friends LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values” too. So, I just have to ask. Where in the world did you come up with such a silly and ridiculous notion?

New Rule:

No more white guys using “white” as a disparaging epithet.

Gort said:
I am a proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American, and I LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values”. And, all of my proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American friends LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values” too. So, I just have to ask. Where in the world did you come up with such a silly and ridiculous notion?

Then maybe start subscribing to Western values – which I call “Democratic Capitalism based on a Moral Foundation.” When you start supporting all of the components with vigor, then you can say you love our system.

You sound like Obama who says he wants to change everything. If one loves something so much, under what circumstances would they push for fundamental change? The answer is they really don’t love it.

Gort said:
I am a proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American, and I LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values”. And, all of my proud, patriotic, “Modern Liberal/Progressive” American friends LOVE “Western Civilization and normal American values” too. So, I just have to ask. Where in the world did you come up with such a silly and ridiculous notion?

Not that you were addressing me, but do you think that the United States and the Europe of 2100 will hold Western Civilization in such high esteem? I don’t. Their preferred philosopher will be Frantz Fannon and Malcolm X, not Thomas Jefferson and Voltaire.

Alz said:
Then maybe start subscribing to Western values – which I call “Democratic Capitalism based on a Moral Foundation.” When you start supporting all of the components with vigor, then you can say you love our system. You sound like Obama who says he wants to change everything. If one loves something so much, under what circumstances would they push for fundamental change? The answer is they really don’t love it.

The primary Founding Fathers were Deists. They knew that the Constitution was imperfect, and that it would need to be changed and improved over time. At times, they knew, those changes would even have to be “fundamental” – like the abolishment of slavery. Does that mean that they lacked a moral foundation?

Sean68 said:
Not that you were addressing me, but do you think that the United States and the Europe of 2100 will hold Western Civilization in such high esteem? I don’t. Their preferred philosopher will be Frantz Fannon and Malcolm X, not Thomas Jefferson and Voltaire.

Thomas Jefferson and Voltaire are two of my favorite heroes. I would like to see more coverage of Jefferson and Voltaire in America’s educational history books. The Republicans, on the other hand, are doing their darndest to get those two out of the history books (see the Texas Board of Education run amok). Fannon was a Maxist, and Malcolm X was an Islamist. Most liberal/progressive Americans, like myself, are not big believers in either of those two philosophies. Your argument doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The logic seems extremely flawed.

Gort said:
Thomas Jefferson and Voltaire are two of my favorite heroes. I would like to see more coverage of Jefferson and Voltaire in America’s educational history books. The Republicans, on the other hand, are doing their darndest to get those two out of the history books (see the Texas Board of Education run amok). Fannon was a Maxist, and Malcolm X was an Islamist. Most liberal/progressive Americans, like myself, are not big believers in either of those two philosophies. Your argument doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. The logic seems extremely flawed.

Listen, we’re in agreement about Voltaire and Jefferson. However, if you are familiar with much of the ideology that has gained currency among the intellectual elite of the left–marxists historians, anti-colonialists, third-world studies, black liberation theologians et al.–then you have to be aware of how they think about Western Civilization. To quote Jesse Jackson in a protest at Standford University: “Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho! Western Culture’s Got to Go!” (repeat)

Sean68 said:
Listen, we’re in agreement about Voltaire and Jefferson. However, if you are familiar with much of the ideology that has gained currency among the intellectual elite of the left–marxists historians, anti-colonialists, third-world studies, black liberation theologians et al.–then you have to be aware of how they think about Western Civilization. To quote Jesse Jackson in a protest at Standford University: “Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho! Western Culture’s Got to Go!” (repeat)

My point is that this is the trend. The heroes of Western Civilization are seen, for the most part, by the left as villains and hypocrites.

Sean68 said:
My point is that this is the trend. The heroes of Western Civilization are seen, for the most part, by the left as villains and hypocrites.

There are certainly some that would argue that some of the Founders were hypocritical for signing a document that said “all men are created equal” and then continued to own slaves. You don’t think that that’s a fair argument, that they were at least a tad hypocritical on that particular issue? “Villains”? Nah, can’t buy it. I don’t think that the average patriotic, liberal American thinks of the Founders as villains. That would imply that they, liberal/progressives, wish that the Founders had not won the American Revolution, and that the British had prevailed. It’s a ridiculous assertion when you think about it in those terms. I don’t like tea and crumpets, the Founders are my heroes, flaws and all. Paine, Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, are you kidding? I get goose bumps when I read their brilliant words. The Federalist Papers were some of the most clever and brilliant writing ever put to paper. We would not be a “United States of America” without those four. Remove any one of them from our history, and Americans would likely be speaking with a British accent.

Tooooo Funnyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And..sad but true.

Man, Maher can get conservatives foaming at the mouth in less time than you can say “Palin is a twat”.