Yeah, yeah, yeah. We’re all shocked. Now you can do 10 more stories about nothing.

He will be gone again when the Comcast deal is done…..

Now the question is what Keith says about this whole ordeal on Tuesday and whether he throws a couple darts towards the Fox News clan ala Media Matters or something. It’ll be good to have him back, and hopefully he’s learned his lesson and/or MSNBC reconsiders their rules for political pundits.

After having died for Fox New’s sins, on the third day he rose from the dead!

The lefty Messiah lives!

BatBoy said:
He will be gone again when the Comcast deal is done…..

Why would he be gone post-Comcast?

They caved after most pundits on both sides thought the story was overplayed i think the people on the right especially the ones on fox new that they couldnt really bash Keith too much since fox has no policy about donating to political campaigns since Fox is one big rightwing political contribution machine so they couldnt really talk and the fact that almost three hundred thousand signed a petition to bring back Keith when i Glenn Beck or any other fox news person would get that many people signing petition to get them back on the air contributed to MSNBC probably deciding to bring Keith back.WHatever made the do it it was the right thing to do.

From Phil Griffin, President of MSNBC:

After several days of deliberation and discussion, I have determined that suspending Keith through and including Monday night’s program is an appropriate punishment for his violation of our policy. We look forward to having him back on the air Tuesday night.

————————————————————————————————————————-

What an utter polecat!

Keith Who?

Keith Olbermann was right when he said;

“Phil (Griffin) THINKS he is my boss”.

Olbermann won’t have to say the mea culpa, and Phil Griffin comes out looking weak.

Hell yes! Phil Griffin didn’t expect this kind of backlash?? What an idiot. But no matter Keith is back and now a lot more popular than he was last week. How you like that teabaggers?

well…i guess they have no intentions of cleaning up their channel.
or did they just lean forward?

Somewhere David Shuster is shaking head….

Oh my God! This is funny as hell!! Basically MAN TAN MAN just took off two nights – God forbid with no pay!! – and will be back on Tuesday! So what else is new? That sure was a harsh suspension!!!

INCREDIBLE!!

clindhartsen said:
Why would he be gone post-Comcast?

Uhhh, because Comcast has customers called “subscribers” they would like to keep and add more of. GE has no customers besides Barack Obama’s initiatives and government contracts. Comcast will expect MSNBC to get ratings and be profitable.

Cecelia said:
After having died for Fox New’s sins, on the third day he rose from the dead!

The lefty Messiah lives!

But the flesh of Oblermann still stinketh.

Pat Quinn said:
Hell yes! Phil Griffin didn’t expect this kind of backlash?? What an idiot. But no matter Keith is back and now a lot more popular than he was last week. How you like that teabaggers?

…and you are the TEABAGGED. Tea baggers are the ones who put their balls into the mouths of the tea bagged…and this last election the tea baggers made the Liberals SUCK IT.

lol

Liberals are the tea BAGGD.

Comcast caved!!!
I guess half a million emails and phone calls isn’t what they expected!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Latin2 said:
Liberals are the tea BAGGD.

They don’t even KNOW when they’ve been played!

After all that supposedly high-minded crap.

What a den of weasels.

Are there ten people on this Planet that didn’t know this was all a ratings
scam? Clever, and it will jack Olbermann up for a week or so when he
returns but it won’t last. Fox will continue to wax his ass.

Was this just a publicity scam? If so it is really bush league.

Even CNN, the View or Joy Beharvision wouldn’t stoop this low.

Well………… maybe.

By God . Our long national nightmare is over !

Thank goodness. Our long national nightmare is over. Now we can all finally sleep.

In other news, Phil Griffin stated that Olbermann is not a journalist, therefore should not be held to the same standards as NBC news personnel. He also stated that Olbermann is not a human being, therefore he is free to rant and rave about Fox news, republicans and the majority of americans. Griffin noted that MSNBC was never in it for the ratings, that the sole purpose of lean forward was to distinguish itself from other programming that actually made sense and had ethics.

Appears that the viewers agree.

murf said:
Somewhere David Shuster is shaking head….

I just catted with Shuster on Facebook and he may be back soon also. Shuster is still getting paid so he is having a nice vacation.

common sense at last. Scarce commodity round these parts.

iris said:
Comcast caved!!!I guess half a million emails and phone calls isn’t what they expected!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I had no idea that one person could make that many phone calls over four days. You should take that show on the road!

iris said:
Comcast caved!!!
I guess half a million emails and phone calls isn’t what they expected!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How could more people call in to protest than actually watch the show? Unless, like Dem voting patterns, they called in more than once.

Cecelia said:
They don’t even KNOW when they’ve been played! After all that supposedly high-minded crap. What a den of weasels.

Congrats!! I knew you would agree that Sean Hannity should have been suspended for giving to Republican campaigns. You’re right on the money.

sarainitaly said:
well…i guess they have no intentions of cleaning up their channel.or did they just lean forward?

Nothing to clean up. We love it just the way it is!!!

Probably NOT wrong said:
Are there ten people on this Planet that didn’t know this was all a ratings
scam? Clever, and it will jack Olbermann up for a week or so when he
returns but it won’t last. Fox will continue to wax his ass.

i really didn’t think it was.

Since I predicted on Friday that Griffin would end up aplogizing to Olbermann and putting him back on the air quickly, I new predict that Olbermann will spend his hour bashing Fox News. He will begin with the racist angle, move to homophobia, then on to islamophobia. He will then blame O’Reilly and Murdoch for everything.

At the end of the day, it will be all Fox News’s fault. That’s all the man knows. Watch Fox, obsess about Fox, stalk O’Reilly, call them names. End of story.

alamo2 said:
Congrats!! I knew you would agree that Sean Hannity should have been suspended for giving to Republican campaigns. You’re right on the money.

See what I mean.

MSNBC announces that Olbermann is suspended “indefinitely” for not following the channel’s ethic-based policy of clearing his contributions with his bosses.

Forty-eight hours later they cave, and THIS Einstein thinks Olbermann and MSNBC are moral colossi….

BlackWidow said:
Nothing to clean up. We love it just the way it is!!!

well, you and a very small number of people do. but most don’t, as you can tell my their ratings. i used to watch them but they turned to crap. i don’t watch them anymore, except for some Morning Joe.

I knew this thing would be short-lived. More than anything, it gave the morons over at Johnny Dollar’s place an opportunity to have a circle jerk–”ladies” in the middle.

Cecelia said:
See what I mean. MSNBC announces that Olbermann is suspended “indefinitely” for not following the channel’s ethic-based policy of clearing his contributions with his bosses. Forty-eight hours later they cave, and THIS Einstein thinks Olbermann and MSNBC are moral colossi….

Nope, I just assumed that you would think that the same thing that happened to Olbermann should happen to Hannity since he did what Olbermann did. Oh, and so did Neil Cavuto. I just know you wouldn’t be hypocritical enought to not condemn Hannity and Cavuto for that, would you????????

Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack said:
”ladies” in the middle.

Jealous?

Phil rightly realized that Keith is a megastar, still.

Glad KO is back.

Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack said:
it gave the morons over at Johnny Dollar’s place an opportunity to have a circle jerk

Yeah and Cecelia was the rotating “lady” in the middle.

Cecelia said:
See what I mean. MSNBC announces that Olbermann is suspended “indefinitely” for not following the channel’s ethic-based policy of clearing his contributions with his bosses. Forty-eight hours later they cave, and THIS Einstein thinks Olbermann and MSNBC are moral colossi….

Actually, I don’t think Olbermann and MSNBC are moral colossi…. I put them in the same category as Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck and Fox. In other words, none of them are good for America.

I believe this was a calculated ploy to help Olbermann try to win back some credibility among Liberals who for years has been losing supporters.

He had just come out of a disastrous fight with Jon Stewart after saying Stewart had jumped the shark…so what was MSNBC to do…make up a phony controversy to fool the simple minded Liberals, and try to resurrect his failing career and ratings.

alamo2 said:
Nope, I just assumed that you would think that the same thing that happened to Olbermann should happen to Hannity since he did what Olbermann did. Oh, and so did Neil Cavuto. I just know you wouldn’t be hypocritical enought to not condemn Hannity and Cavuto for that, would you????????

You have no idea whether or not Hannity or Cavuto cleared their political actions with their bosses — a policy of both MSNBC and FOX.

However, you DO know that Olbermann didn’t ACCORDING to his boss.

No wonder MSNBC can jerk you around like pimp with a whore. You’re dumb as dirt.

timzank said:
Uhhh, because Comcast has customers called “subscribers” they would like to keep and add more of. GE has no customers besides Barack Obama’s initiatives and government contracts. Comcast will expect MSNBC to get ratings and be profitable.

So, you get rid of the ratings head of the network and replace him with a bath of FOX-bots or something? MSNBC has a relatively strong #2 presence, a distance away from FNC, sure, but still a strong #2 showing. And people are going to flee Comcast because of MSNBC? I should have fled Charter Communications cable because I had E!, G4, and twenty other channels, plus FNC which I consider garbage and a joke.

the real john t said:
eah and Cecelia was the rotating “lady” in the middle.

And you’ve been leaned forward so far that you’re on your nose.

Cecelia said:
No wonder MSNBC can jerk you around like pimp with a whore. You’re dumb as dirt.

And you are a very ignorant, foul-mouthed fool. But I respect your lack of education.

alamo2 said:
Nope, I just assumed that you would think that the same thing that happened to Olbermann should happen to Hannity since he did what Olbermann did. Oh, and so did Neil Cavuto. I just know you wouldn’t be hypocritical enought to not condemn Hannity and Cavuto for that, would you????????

You realize that they work for different companies and have different contracts with different rules, right? And you know it was MSNBC and not Fox News that suspended him, right?

maybe KO just went in to have a little work done.

So, if it was just a big publicity stunt, as per Tommy, then I guess they still don’t have any ethics.
it was just a stunt for ratings….huh.

alamo2 said:
Actually, I don’t think Olbermann and MSNBC are moral colossi…. I put them in the same category as Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck and Fox. In other words, none of them are good for America.

Right…

Who cares, pea-brain.

The day will come when Olbermann is fired from MSNBC. But this offense was a joke — as if anyone had any doubts about Olbermann’s political affiliations! His bigger problem is his reputation as a blowhard, the boring predictability of a show in which no one ever disagrees with the host, and his declining ratings (down by more 50% since 2008).

clindhartsen said:
So, you get rid of the ratings head of the network and replace him with a bath of FOX-bots or something? MSNBC has a relatively strong #2 presence, a distance away from FNC, sure, but still a strong #2 showing. And people are going to flee Comcast because of MSNBC? I should have fled Charter Communications cable because I had E!, G4, and twenty other channels, plus FNC which I consider garbage and a joke.

uh…Olbermann was barely getting ratings and even Madcow has been beating him in ratings. His viewership is only 1/3 of what O’Reilly gets at 8pm.

In other words he is a failure.

Cecelia said:
Right… Who cares, pea-brain.

Ooh, another brilliant comment from this elitist!

Thank you, Mr. Griffin. May I have another?

Latin2 said:
…and you are the TEABAGGED. Tea baggers are the ones who put their balls into the mouths of the tea bagged…and this last election the tea baggers made the Liberals SUCK IT. lol Liberals are the tea BAGGD.

That brings to mind this clip from Red Eye:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIpcdDXSUso&feature=related (skip to 2:53)

Who gives a shit!

Olbermann’s ratings have always been around 1/3 of what O’Reilly gets every night…so this was probably a ploy to help Olbermann get some sort of ratings bump.

alamo2 said:
And you are a very ignorant, foul-mouthed fool. But I respect your lack of education.

I’m sure you do. Uneducated people are your superiors.

Pablo said:
You realize that they work for different companies and have different contracts with different rules, right? And you know it was MSNBC and not Fox News that suspended him, right?

Of course, but the point is that people who believe that MSNBC did the right thing (suspension) are being hypocritical if they do not think Fox should have suspended Cavuto or Hannity. I personally think Olbermann should have been suspended, but I also believe that those stations that have no boundries, are proving that they are linked to one party or the other.

Well atleast MSNBC can not prtend that KO is the new Murrow…Murrow had real ethical standards and first would have never gave money to a candidate then give that candidate free airtime and if he did would have resigned and took the blame….but this is what it is a cheap ratings stunt and other excuse to attack FOX.

alamo2 said:
And you are a very ignorant, foul-mouthed fool. But I respect your lack of education.

Well see, Cecelia comes from Dollar’s Dump where she wouldn’t dare say the things she does here. She’s a 2 faced ignorant moron.

Cecelia said:
I’m sure you do. Uneducated people are your superiors.

I’m sorry. I should not have said lack of education. I should have said your lack of intelligence.

Calvin said:
That brings to mind this clip from Red Eye:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIpcdDXSUso&feature=related (skip to 2:53)

It’s true…and shows how stupid Liberals are.

Tea Baggers are the ones who place their balls into the mouth of others…so that would mean that the Liberals are the ones who are getting TEA BAGGED…lol

That makes perfect sense..and they can SUCK ‘EM.

Shows how stupid they are for calling the tea party ‘tea baggers” maybe it’s a sub-conscious thing they want…lol

Latin2 said:
uh…Olbermann was barely getting ratings and even Madcow has been beating him in ratings. His viewership is only 1/3 of what O’Reilly gets at 8pm. In other words he is a failure.

He helps MSNBC manage the #2 spot on cable and that’s a failure? Olbermann is one of MSNBC’s strongest assets, and if you look around the other cable networks, MSNBC is managing to overtake to double demographics of CNN and HLN, as well as double total viewers and others on the network near tripple other two’s ratings in total viewers.

Olbermann is a success, the question is whether MSNBC can build their brand a little stronger, add one or two strong personalities, and make it work even better. Comcast wouldn’t destory the network.

Can you say The Power Of The People. 3 petitions over a Million Signatures, NBC switchboard taken down, E-Mail system shut down, Guest Cancelations, Boycott threats. That about covers it.

clindhartsen said:
So, you get rid of the ratings head of the network and replace him with a bath of FOX-bots or something? MSNBC has a relatively strong #2 presence, a distance away from FNC, sure, but still a strong #2 showing. And people are going to flee Comcast because of MSNBC? I should have fled Charter Communications cable because I had E!, G4, and twenty other channels, plus FNC which I consider garbage and a joke.

2nd place is first loser…and they are not even close.

Latin2 said:
2nd place is first loser…and they are not even close.

So, what do you suggest, more FOX-bots and a blanket Republican hawking across cable news?

mlong said:
Well atleast MSNBC can not prtend that KO is the new Murrow…Murrow had real ethical standards and first would have never gave money to a candidate then give that candidate free airtime and if he did would have resigned and took the blame….but this is what it is a cheap ratings stunt and other excuse to attack FOX.

There are not too many Murrows around, on any of the networks.

cmdrgmh said:
Can you say The Power Of The People. 3 petitions over a Million Signatures, NBC switchboard taken down, E-Mail system shut down, Guest Cancelations, Boycott threats. That about covers it.

Can you say, Take a Break From Those Hallucinogenics?

This is/was a publicity stunt to make up for the bad PR they were getting for their horribly bias (beyond anything Fox has ever produced) Tuesday night election coverage. I don’t think any right minded person could deny the impeccable timing and short duration coupled it Rachel Maddow’s speech on why this proves they aren’t the Fox News of the left. Clearly they are, but this will give them room to stretch and get more comfortable with their left leaning production. Comcast isn’t going to change this, so rest assured journalism is still dead.

alamo2 said:
I should have said your lack of intelligence.

Not to worry. You’ve more than made it obvious that you have great respect for a lack of intelligence.

AnonymousFinch said:
Thank you, Mr. Griffin. May I have another?

Actually, I think it was Phil doing the receiving and the thanking.

Latin2 said:
2nd place is first loser…and they are not even close.

You are in denial.

MSNBC is an unqualified sucsess story. AND it makes millions for NBC.

The fact they overtook CNN this past year in primetime is huge.

And YES I KNOW they are not as big as Fox. Still, they are very big and have millions of viewers (and millions in revenue annually).

the real john t said:
Well see, Cecelia comes from Dollar’s Dump where she wouldn’t dare say the things she does here. She’s a 2 faced ignorant moron.

You’re a four legged ignorant moron.

shootfromthehip said:
The fact they overtook CNN this past year in primetime is huge.

So did Red Eye, which is on at 3 am yet beats CNN primetime in the demo.

Hey cece you’re a 2 legged ignorant morAn
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ya know, the copy really should read “some things are best left behind.” That’d be far more appropiate. Too bad he wasn’t left behind. He shoulda been fired. Not last week, but long ago. http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2010/11/as_predicted_ke.php

I still like this memorial tribute from Reason TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVJTaRw6aQ

iris said:
Hey cece you’re a 2 legged ignorant morAn

And you’re The Real Royal King.

Nuff said…

sarainitaly said:
well, you and a very small number of people do. but most don’t, as you can tell my their ratings. i used to watch them but they turned to crap. i don’t watch them anymore, except for some Morning Joe.

That is fine!!! We don’t need you.

My man just needed a long weekend off. Good for him!

Hey anonymous smartypants then why don’t you tell us
how many emails and phone calls of support for keith comcast got?
Whatever the amount COMCAST CAVED because of it!

oops, i meant to paste this comment here, and placed it in the wrong thread:

well, since he is coming back tuesday, i guess it was just a publicity stunt, as tommy said.

but for me, that just makes them worse. it had nothing to do with ethics – just ratings. all those attacks on FOX, all those criticisms and slams…. phooey. they don’t give a rats behind about journalists donating to candidates, and they don’t have any problems campaigning on their network for dems.

a publicity stunt, coupled with this damning video:
http://johnnydollar.us/files/101107fhwir.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0&feature=player_embedded

they don’t come out of this looking good, in my opinion.
they are hypocrites beyond any i have ever seen.

alamo2 said:
Of course, but the point is that people who believe that MSNBC did the right thing (suspension) are being hypocritical if they do not think Fox should have suspended Cavuto or Hannity. I personally think Olbermann should have been suspended, but I also believe that those stations that have no boundries, are proving that they are linked to one party or the other.

Who are you seeing suggesting that suspending Olbermann for making political contributions is a sensible thing to do? The majority of what I’m seeing on the right thinks MSNBC screwed up. Of course, it’s within their rights, as he violated their contract, but mostly I see people who think it’s a dumb thing for them to do. There aren’t many more futile fool’s errands than defending the MSNBC prime time lineup’s impartiality. So, unless Tommy’s right and this was a ratings gambit, it’s dopey. It’s a dopey ratings gambit too.

Look Steve, we realize the “Mediaites” love to report anything, and I mean anything, negative about Olbermann (was he weally dat mean to your follicly challenged boss?) … especially a Fox shill like yourself. Do you get erect when your report on O’Reilly’s “powerful”, “surging”, “thrusting?” “turgid??” ratings (still half that of the average Pawn Stars episode)?? I bet you do. Anyway, Olbie is back on Tuesday at $7.25mil per (unless he gets a raise… or terminated according to your “sources”… is the follicly challenged one your source?)

PS Stop drooling/leering at Megyn Kelly on your occasional appearances on her show… she’s WAY out of your league.

iris said:
Whatever the amount COMCAST CAVED because of it!

Only these people could simultaneously hold the opinion that MSNBC’s policy was both superior to FNC’s AND that it’s good Comcast caved…

iris said:
Hey anonymous smartypants then why don’t you tell us
how many emails and phone calls of support for keith comcast got?
Whatever the amount COMCAST CAVED because of it!

iris said:
Hey anonymous smartypants then why don’t you tell us
how many emails and phone calls of support for keith comcast got?
Whatever the amount COMCAST CAVED because of it!

First of all, the merger hasn’t happened yet, so Comcast had nothing to do with it. Second, since this happened, I’ve been saying that Olbermann would be back within the week, and gone within 2 years. This was nothing more than smacking him and laying the ground work for his eventual departure. Nobody caved to Keith.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe management wants to be a distant second place in a three-way market forever, in which case they’ve found their man.

RunSarahRun said:
Look Steve, we realize the “Mediaites” love to report anything, and I mean anything, negative about Olbermann (was he weally dat mean to your follicly challenged boss?) … especially a Fox shill like yourself. Do you get erect when your report on O’Reilly’s “powerful”, “surging”, “thrusting?” “turgid??” ratings (still half that of the average Pawn Stars episode)?? I bet you do. Anyway, Olbie is back on Tuesday at $7.25mil per (unless he gets a raise… or terminated according to your “sources”… is the follicly challenged one your source?)

PS Stop drooling/leering at Megyn Kelly on your occasional appearances on her show… she’s WAY out of your league.

I see you have the hots for O’Reilly. Do you have a loofah?

Cecelia said:
And you’re The Real Royal King.

Nuff said…

Tru dat.

clindhartsen said:
So, you get rid of the ratings head of the network and replace him with a bath of FOX-bots or something? MSNBC has a relatively strong #2 presence, a distance away from FNC, sure, but still a strong #2 showing. And people are going to flee Comcast because of MSNBC? I should have fled Charter Communications cable because I had E!, G4, and twenty other channels, plus FNC which I consider garbage and a joke.

Idiot, Comcast does business with Fox therefore they are not going to allow the stooges at MSNBC to spend their air time raging against their competition. First of all, it’s bad business, secondly, it is moronic and juvenile. Comcast doesn’t have to satisfy the WH like GE. Comcast doesn’t depend on taxpayer money like GE does. Subscribers will leave if they feel their money is going to support this far left unprofessional organization that calls them racists on a daily basis. Watch and see what Comcast does.

Why does anyone even answer Iris?

He is supposed to bring Bosco home.

Sara, you are too stupid dear. These pricks love you because you care. They don’t , they just have nothing better to do between beat off sessions.

A-MESS-NBC is in a heap-o-trouble just like Obama and the Democrats!

clindhartsen said:
So, what do you suggest, more FOX-bots and a blanket Republican hawking across cable news?

Liberals only make up 20% of the U.S. population and Conservatives make up 40%…so it seems you Liberals kooks are the minority. It’s just you whine more.

Also Glenn Beck who comes on at 5pm Eastern and 2PM IN THE AFTERNOON PACIFIC TIME…and he STILL BEATS OLBERMANN who appears at 8pm prime time daily.

O’Reilly almost every night crushes the whole combined line up of MSNBC with his combined shows. That is the WHOLE line up of MSNBC nightly.

Even the quirky Red Eye, that comes out at 3 AM IN THE MORNING on Fox beats many of the shows on MSNBC’s prime time line up.

lol

I’m going to keep watching Fox News with or without Oberman. MSNBC is the place for progressives, Fox News is for everyone else.
http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/

All these RWers on here rant about how MSNBC and Olbermann is irrelevent and how no one watches them. But they sure do seem concerned if Olbermann is staying on there or not.

the real john t said:
All these RWers on here rant about how MSNBC and Olbermann is irrelevent and how no one watches them. But they sure do seem concerned if Olbermann is staying on there or not.

uh…once again, and even Lawrence O’Donnell noted this…Conservatives make up 40 PERCENT of the U.S. population and you kooks on the Left only make up 20 %.

the real john t said:
All these RWers on here rant about how MSNBC and Olbermann is irrelevent and how no one watches them. But they sure do seem concerned if Olbermann is staying on there or not.

So true!

AnonymousFinch said:
So did Red Eye, which is on at 3 am yet beats CNN primetime in the demo.

I like Red Eye sometimes.

Sure beats Hannity!

I didn’t think he was coming back either. I guess General Electric is content with paying him $7.5 million a year for horrible ratings.

That’ll probably change once Comcast assumes control. If Olbermann’s socks don’t match he’ll be fired by them.

AnonymousFinch said:
Thank you, Mr. Griffin. May I have another?

“For this relief, much thanks”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILIE9gtwoTA

Here is what the real map of the U.S. looks like…why looky here…YOU KOOKS ARE MINORITY…even in California, Washington and Oregon.

http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010

Latin2 said:
Here is what the real map of the U.S. looks like…why looky here…YOU KOOKS ARE MINORITY…even in California, Washington and Oregon.

http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010

Notice the map shows that old white hippies, combined with the un-educated, and high crime and high drop rates are where Liberals rule the roost…lol

Latin2 said:
uh…once again, and even Lawrence O’Donnell noted this…Conservatives make up 40 PERCENT of the U.S. population and you kooks on the Left only make up 20 %.

So what the hell does that have to do with you RWers ranting about MSNBC being irrlevent and worrying about if Olbermann is there or not?

The fact is we don’t really care, we just love watching the car accident. Who in the world cares so much for any of these people?

They do their thing, the world keeps turning, and nobody gives a damn in 24 hours. Shit , a million people die in a flood somewhere and it’s a story for a few days. Do really believe that in the progress of time, that anyone will care. If you do, you are , well, an idiot.

Or are you someone who believes they have a personal relationship with these people? Really?

Chapman thought the same way and we know where that leads.

Hey Cancan2 GTK you can’t ignore me either!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the real john t said:
So what the hell does that have to do with you RWers ranting about MSNBC being irrlevent and worrying about if Olbermann is there or not?

Just that you are TEA BAGGED kooks and scream and whine the most. Like you did with Olbermann and in fact like your idol Olbermann…lol

the real john t said:
All these RWers on here rant about how MSNBC and Olbermann is irrelevent and how no one watches them. But they sure do seem concerned if Olbermann is staying on there or not.

Not concerned a bit, it’s just good fun watching whacked out retards acting like whacked out retards. And face it, Olbermann goes out of his way to paint a target on himself, and it’s always fun throwing crap at him.

Latin2 said:
uh…once again, and even Lawrence O’Donnell noted this…Conservatives make up 40 PERCENT of the U.S. population and you kooks on the Left only make up 20 %.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmCt4ltBTzg (skip to 2:05)

This is why it makes no sense to make MSNBC more liberal, as Keith Olbermann said that Comcast wants to do that.

Latin2 said:
Here is what the real map of the U.S. looks like…why looky here…YOU KOOKS ARE MINORITY…even in California, Washington and Oregon.

http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010

Hey FUCKTARD.

If we are “in the minority” here in California, then why did we just elect Boxer and Jerry Brown over Republicans?

Despite being outspent 4 to 1, might I add.

shootfromthehip said:
Hey FUCKTARD.

If we are “in the minority” here in California, then why did we just elect Boxer and Jerry Brown over Republicans?

You are located in districts that either have the highest drug, and crime, and drop out rates. The areas that are sanctuary cities with anchor babies who are now voting age, CITIES THAT ARE BANKRUPT like L.A., or areas that are filled with drug brain dead white old hippies.

California is now bankrupt.

Latin2 said:
Here is what the real map of the U.S. looks like…why looky here…YOU KOOKS ARE MINORITY…even in California,

Again, remind me what party won the Governorship and the US Senate seat in California.

Olbermann returning Tuesday is a victory for the First Amendment and the power of viewers to have their opinions heard. 

The only thing that could make this better would be if MSNBC found a permanent full-time role for fill-in anchor Thomas Roberts, who was dropped from CNN after refusing to hide the fact that he is gay.

…meanwhile the rest of California voted Republican and is trying to get out of California’s economical crises. San Francisco, San Jose and Los Angeles voted Democratic, yet two of those cities have high unemployment, and all 3 have out of control spending.

Latin2 said:
California is now bankrupt.

Who is the Governor of California now, and what party does he belong to?

Oh hello, “LATIN.”

You really are an odious liar.

You say: “Notice the map shows that old white hippies, combined with the un-educated, and high crime and high drop rates are where Liberals rule the roost.”

Funny how you don’t mention cities such as Seattle, Portland or Boulder, Colorado, which has the best educated workforce in the country and is consistently voted as one of the best places to live in the U.S. Clean, well managed, low dropout rates, low crime and run by liberals.

Well have a look at this map that shows where the REAL uneducated masses live with high dropout rates (hint they are mostly in the south, all RED STATES).

SEE IQ LEVELS BY STATE AS THEY CORRESPOND TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS HERE!

http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2004/05/06/voting-for-bush-and-extreme-stupidity-highly-correlated/

the real john t said:
Who is the Governor of California now, and what party does he belong to?

the real john t said:
Who is the Governor of California now, and what party does he belong to?

He is a Rino, and as you well know…who has been running the State legislature….THE DEMOCRATS who determine how the state spends and what they spend on.

shootfromthehip said:
Hey FUCKTARD. If we are “in the minority” here in California, then why did we just elect Boxer and Jerry Brown over Republicans?

I’d say that you were high, but seeing the results of Prop 19, that can’t be the reason. Have fun drifiting off into the Pacific Ocean.

Phil Griffin obviously doesn’t check the daily ratings for msnbc. Whew, most CEO’s, Presidents, GM’s, etc., would be making positive changes in the lineup because of the way FOX News, the ONLY Serious News Service around anymore just kicks msnbc up one side and back down the other all day and all night long. But, I am glad Phil is keeping the Clown Channel alive and kicking. We need all the laughs we can get these days anyway. And old Olbermann is as funny as they come.

Calvin said:
I’d say that you were high, but seeing the results of Prop 19, that can’t be the reason. Have fun drifiting off into the Pacific Ocean.

You really need to smoke a joint. It might help you guys on the right out. Seriously.

Kind of surprised prop 19 didn’t pass. Trust me, a different version of that will pass out here soon.

shootfromthehip said:
Oh hello, “LATIN.”

You really are an odious liar.

You say: “Notice the map shows that old white hippies, combined with the un-educated, and high crime and high drop rates are where Liberals rule the roost.”

Funny how you don’t mention cities such as Seattle, Portland or Boulder, Colorado, which has the best educated workforce in the country and is consistently voted as one of the best places to live in the U.S. Clean, well managed, low dropout rates, low crime and run by liberals.

Well have a look at this map that shows where the REAL uneducated masses live with high dropout rates (hint they are mostly in the south, all RED STATES).

SEE IQ LEVELS BY STATE AS THEY CORRESPOND TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS HERE!

http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2004/05/06/voting-for-bush-and-extreme-stupidity-highly-correlated/

lol…overall states is not what counts it is who votes Democratic. Southern States have a large poor population who vote Democratic and so does California and Utah.

Go back and look at the map I posted…Los Angeles and Imperial county have the some of the lowest high school test scores, but just because they are in a “blue state” does not mean they are the most intelligent.

Just like the Southern States, there are many patches of blue that drag that state down, and those areas the most crime ridden and have the highest drug and alcohol abuse. Like Eastern Oklahoma, Southern Arizona, and Northern New Mexico.

shootfromthehip said:
Funny how you don’t mention cities such as Seattle, Portland or Boulder, Colorado, which has the best educated workforce in the country and is consistently voted as one of the best places to live in the U.S. Clean, well managed, low dropout rates, low crime and run by liberals.

Well, as a resident of a Seattle suburb, I can tell you that you’re full of shit. The affluent eastern suburbs keep re-electing Republicans, and Seattle itself is broke-dick.

Well I live here in Southern California and love it. Regen an Nixon grew up here, they loved it too.

I just thank God you are far away from here.

Stay in Houston or whatever hellhole you call home and please never set foot in my city. We do not want you here.

I love L.A. along with the 8 million or so who also call it home.

Oh, and I hate you.

Have a great night!

:)

http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010

Here look for yourself…Northern New Mexico, Eastern Utah, Southern Arizona, Imperial County in California, Los Angeles, Eastern Oaklahoma, parts of Georgia, Tacoma, Washington…are some of the worst areas of those states…with the highest drop out rates, crime and drug abuse.

Just because a state is blue doesn’t mean they are the smartest…It’s the blue spots that count. they are also the most broke, the most corrupt, the most crime ridden and the ones who are segregated with white Liberals and old hippies.

Latin2 said:
…and you are the TEABAGGED. Tea baggers are the ones who put their balls into the mouths of the tea bagged…and this last election the tea baggers made the Liberals SUCK IT.

lol

Liberals are the tea BAGGD.

yummy tastes good.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Well, as a resident of a Seattle suburb, I can tell you that you’re full of shit. The affluent eastern suburbs keep re-electing Republicans, and Seattle itself is broke-dick.

I spent a year in Seattle.

Great city. The suburbs and the city itself.

Run by liberals. Bike lanes everywhere. A Rethugs worst nightmare!

Bill Gates is the wealthiest biggest liberal in America. He lives in Seattle and represents the best that we are.

Generous, smart and compassionate.

PROGRESSIVE.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Well, as a resident of a Seattle suburb

i’m from the east side. where do you live? i love finding fellow seattlites. :O)

Calvin said:
I’d say that you were high, but seeing the results of Prop 19, that can’t be the reason. Have fun drifiting off into the Pacific Ocean.

Hey I am high, but really that is the only way I can deal with the teabagger idiocy on the Mediaite comments.

Latin2 said:
http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010
Just because a state is blue doesn’t mean they are the smartest

Yes, retard, it does.

The fact that you keep using the word “hippies” suggest to me you are a sad old man.

It’s 2010.

Wake the fuck up.

.

shootfromthehip said:
Well I live here in Southern California and love it. Regen an Nixon grew up here, they loved it too.

I just thank God you are far away from here.

Stay in Houston or whatever hellhole you call home and please never set foot in my city. We do not want you here.

I love L.A. along with the 8 million or so who also call it home.

Oh, and I hate you.

Have a great night!

:)

lol

YOU BETTER LOOK AT YOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AGAIN;

http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010/CA

It is mostly red…meanwhile heavily populated Los Angeles, the tip along the border like National City and all of Imperial County are in blue…you know the HEAVILY ILLEGAL ALIEN dominated areas with high drop out rates.

shootfromthehip said:
Yes, retard, it does.

The fact that you keep using the word “hippies” suggest to me you are a sad old man.

It’s 2010.

Wake the fuck up.

lol…I am not an OLD MAN…I am not even a guy.

shootfromthehip said:
Stay in Houston or whatever hellhole you call home and please never set foot in my city. We do not want you here.

Don’t worry, latin cou’dn’t afford to travel there anyway on his welfare check. And he’s probably too dumb to read a road map also.

This is still too damned funny! Hardly anyone knows who the hell this fat liar is and even this publicity stunt didn’t get him over. Looks like Comcast will dump him at the end of the year and find someone who can actually (God forbid!) draw something called RATINGS!!

shootfromthehip said:
Bill Gates is the wealthiest biggest liberal in America. He lives in Seattle and represents the best that we are.

Bill Gates does not live in Seattle. He lives in the affluent eastern suburbs with the rest of the billionaires. It’s pretty easy to be a liberal when money is no object. For most of us, doing our taxes each year is pretty instructive.

Go to Mississippi.

Mississippi is filled with redneck rethugs. It’s also one of the dumbest states in the nation that consistently votes “R” in every election.

It’s also the fattest state in the nation.

Filled with fat greedy Republicans running a FAILED state.

Lowest education scores.

Fattest people.

RUN BY RETHUGS.

http://www.governorbarbour.com/

#FAIL

Mr.Papshmer said:
Bill Gates does not live in Seattle. He lives in the affluent eastern suburbs with the rest of the billionaires. It’s pretty easy to be a liberal when money is no object. For most of us, doing our taxes each year is pretty instructive.

Bill Gates has always been generous, as opposed to Republican billionaires, such as the Waltons.

Just face it, liberals are not selfish and you guys (mostly) are.

shootfromthehip said:
Go to Mississippi.

Mississippi is filled with redneck rethugs. It’s also one of the dumbest states in the nation that consistently votes “R” in every election.

It’s also the fattest state in the nation.

Filled with fat greedy Republicans running a FAILED state.

Lowest education scores.

Fattest people.

RUN BY RETHUGS.

http://www.governorbarbour.com/

#FAIL

Meanwhile here is YOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA…why it looks as RED as Mississippi…but you said that red states are the dumbest…lol

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

Of course the blue areas are some of the poorest in California and full of drugs and crime and high drop out rates

Latin2 said:
lol…I am not an OLD MAN…I am not even a guy.

You are old if you use the word “hippie.”

And i shudder to think what kind of woman you are.

Surely one I want to be nowhere NEAR.

Did Laughin2 just say he’s a gay old man? figures
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sarainitaly said:
i’m from the east side. where do you live? i love finding fellow seattlites. :O)

Southeast of Tacoma. Tacoma, the crime ridden dump run by liberals. I refuse to set foot in Tacoma without being packed out.

The big BLUE area in your Southern California is Imperial county, chalked full of crime, drugs, drop outs, illegal aliens, meth labs, anchor babies…LOL

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

Latin2 said:
Meanwhile here is YOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA…why it looks as RED as Mississippi…but you said that red states are the dumbest…lol

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

Of course the blue areas are some of the poorest in California and full of drugs and crime and high drop out rates

WAAAAAH!

“Drugs and crime!

WAAAAAAAH!

I’m a SCARED PUSSY REPUBLICAN!

WWWAAAAAAAAHHHHH.

Who fucking cares if arrest records reflect that people here get arrested for weed.

Not me.

Proves nothing.

Shoot,
It’s a well known fact that conservatives are more generous with their OWN money. You should do some research on John Huntsman.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Well, as a resident of a Seattle suburb

Sara says:
i’m from the east side. where do you live? i love finding fellow seattlites. :O)

Me too! Born in Edmonds, raised in Federal Way/Auburn. Beautiful place but WAY too liberal so I had to get out!

shootfromthehip said:
You are old if you use the word “hippie.”

And i shudder to think what kind of woman you are.

Surely one I want to be nowhere NEAR.

Sorry i am not old…well what else are you? Neo-Communists?

Which is what you really are.

Latin2 said:
The big BLUE area in your Southern California is Imperial county, chalked full of crime, drugs, drop outs, illegal aliens, meth labs, anchor babies…LOL

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

I swear to fucking God you are annoying.

We are done.

“Anchor babies?” Get the fuck out of here.

And I got news for you: there are meth labs all over America, from Oklahoma to Georgia.

Latin2 said:
The big BLUE area in your Southern California is Imperial county, chalked full of crime, drugs, drop outs, illegal aliens, meth labs, anchor babies…LOL

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

Well shootfromthemetalhip…did you see your “SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA”…and how RED it is?

LOL

shootfromthehip said:
I swear to fucking God you are annoying.

We are done.

“Anchor babies?” Get the fuck out of here.

And I got news for you: there are meth labs all over America, from Oklahoma to Georgia.

Eastern Oklahoma? You mean the BLUE Eastern Oklahoma…lol

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Shoot,
It’s a well known fact that conservatives are more generous with their OWN money

Only if you get your “facts” from Fox “news.”

So why don’t the Waltons sign up here and give away half of their money to help save LITERALLY millions of lives, as liberal billionaires such as Bill Gates have done?

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation wants to make American kids among the best educated on Earth, and while they’re doing that the Gates also intend to save millions of lives worldwide. The foundation has been running for ten years, and several Liberals and even a few Republican billiionaries have signed up to give away up to half of what they made.

But not the Waltons.

Because they are greedy Republicans.

They have been asked, they are not stepping up.

Latin2 said:
Well shootfromthemetalhip…did you see your “SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA”…and how RED it is?

LOL

Yes, it’s called Orange County.

Have fun looking at colors on a map.

Meanwhile, Republicans Meg Whitman and Carly Fionarina just got their asses BEAT while Democrats won here in Cali.

Shoot, you don’t know what the Walton’s do with their money. Maybe they give it away anonymously. But it doesn’t really matter, because it’s THEIR $$. They can do whatever they want with it. That doesn’t change the FACT that conservatives give more of THEIR OWN $$ to charity than libs.

From Newsbusters…

Update: Something that has bothered me about this story from the beginning was that I couldn’t find anything at the FEC website about Olbermann’s contributions. Go here, type in “Olbermann, Keith,” and nothing shows.

Yet Politico in its article on this subject Friday reported:

POLITICO discovered the Olbermann donation to Grijalva in a Federal Election Commission filing, and when MSNBC was asked for a comment, it forwarded a statement from Olbermann:

“One week ago, on the night of Thursday October 28 2010, after a discussion with a friend about the state of politics in Arizona, I donated $2,400 each to the reelection campaigns of Democratic Representatives Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords,” Olbermann said. “I also donated the same amount to the campaign of Democratic Senatorial candidate Jack Conway in Kentucky.”

Under FEC rules, an individual donor may give only $2,400 to a candidate per general election campaign. The FEC filings for Olbermann’s contributions list an address that is a Mailboxes Etc. storefront in New York, and it also lists his occupation as a newscaster for NBC Television.

Where is that filing?

FEC checks of the candidates Olbermann gave money to also produced no results.

Here are individual contributors with last names beginning with the letters K through O for Jack Conway, Raul Grijalva, and last names beginning with O for Gabrielle Giffords.

No Keith Olbermann.

I sure would like to know what FEC files Politico discovered.

shootfromthehip said:
If we are “in the minority” here in California, then why did we just elect Boxer and Jerry Brown over Republicans?

shootfromthehip said:
Despite being outspent 4 to 1, might I add.

I have no idea if you’re right about the 4 to 1 outspending. With all of Whitman’s own money being poured into the Governor’s race, that wouldn’t be surprising. All races combined, 4 to 1 seems a little harder to believe but I suppose still possible. All this proves is that campaign ads don’t buy elections.

Here are the numbers nationally, from http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/us/politics/02donate.html-
In Senate races, Republican candidates and their allies outspent Democrats, $159 million to $120 million.
In House races, Democratic candidates and their allies outspent Republicans, $142 million to $119 million.

Total spending on all campaign ads –
Republican candidates and their allies – $278 million
Democratic candidates and their allies – $262 million

Nationally, the ratio was 1.06 to 1, pretty much a dead heat. And the Republicans routed the Dems. I know you were specifically talking about California, but the national numbers blow holes in the idea that the GOP greatly outspent Dems this year.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Shoot, you don’t know what the Walton’s do with their money. Maybe they give it away anonymously. But it doesn’t really matter, because it’s THEIR $$. They can do whatever they want with it. That doesn’t change the FACT that conservatives give more of THEIR OWN $$ to charity than libs.

Actually it was their Daddy’s money.

But we do know that they don’t give it away.

The Walton Family Foundation must disclose its annual donations in forms filed with the Internal Revenue Service, Every year, it is a PALTRY sum considering the billiions they are worth.

You are correct, it is none of my business and they are free to keep it or buy gold with it or whatever they want.

And I am free to call them greedy Republicans based on what I have seen of their “giving.”

cant wait to teabag the sexiest politician John McCain, mmmm hurts so good.

Andy, I was only talking about Cali, no idea nationally and don’t really care.

But 1.6 to 1 is hardly even.

That .6 amounts to a lot, no?

California is an interesting case. Republicans flipped 680 state legislature seats and NONE of them were in California. There was an enormous wave that swept across the country, but California was immune to it. In perhaps unrelated news, California will continue to be on the cutting edge by becoming the first bankrupt, failed American state.

How y’all elected Jerry Brown but didn’t legalize weed is beyond me.

Oh sorry, 1.06.

But still not sure about those numbers.

I find that hard to believe that Dems could match the GOP in this election cycle regarding special interest cash and regular door cash.

The excitement level was not there for Dems as it was for the GOP so I highly doubt those stats, yet I am inclined to believe the NY Times’ reporting.

Shoot,
And I am free to call them greedy Republicans based on what I have seen of their “giving.”

So to be clear, you have no comment on that fact that average everday conservatives are more generous with their money than you libs? You’re just upset the Walton’s aren’t doing what YOU think they should with there’s. As I said, look into John Huntsman. He’s vowed to die broke.

shootfromthehip said:
That .6 amounts to a lot, no?

You bet, a lot more than the .06 that he was commenting on.

shootfromthehip said:
But 1.6 to 1 is hardly even.

That .6 amounts to a lot, no?

That’s 1.06, shoot. .06 isn’t much.

lmao. Now we know why MESSNBC’s ratings are always in the toilet. This station is run by LUNATICS. I don’t think Comcast will sit still for some of the juvenile crap that goes on in Dim City, MESSNBC.

shootfromthehip said:
Just face it, liberals are not selfish and you guys (mostly) are.

This link provides a great deal of data that says the exact opposite –

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=159_1211924035

The main difference is that conservatives are more generous with their own money, liberals are more generous with other people’s money.

Pablo says:

In perhaps unrelated news, California will continue to be on the cutting edge by becoming the first bankrupt, failed American state.

Right Pablo. In today’s news, CA borrows $40 million A DAY to pay unemployment bennies. Yep, keep electing those DEM’s.

I dont understand why everyone says Dick Armey started the teabaggers cause everyone knows it was Larry Craig, Dennis Hastert, Ed Schrock and Mark Foley, duh.

Pat, you should meet Iris. I have a feeling you two would really hit it off!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Right Pablo. In today’s news, CA borrows $40 million A DAY to pay unemployment bennies. Yep, keep electing those DEM’s.

And there’s going to be a showdown soon… Californians are counting on a bailout, but to do so would almost certainly spark civil war, and rightly so. There’s simply nothing legal about my tax dollars paying for California’s projects. Talk about taxation without representation!

shootfromthehip said:
Andy, I was only talking about Cali, no idea nationally and don’t really care. But 1.6 to 1 is hardly even. That .6 amounts to a lot, no?

I know, and I see that you caught the 1.06 in your next post. I only pointed out that the national numbers were almost even because of all of the bitching (other threads, not you) about all of this outside money going to the GOP this year. Its bullshit. Campaign ads don’t buy elections anyway. SEIU and AFSCME spent sick amounts of money on ads in Ohio and all of the Dems running for reelection got hammered, as Whitman did in California pouring all of her own cash into her campaign.

Andy Lamb said:
This link provides a great deal of data that says the exact opposite –

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=159_1211924035

The main difference is that conservatives are more generous with their own money, liberals are more generous with other people’s money.

That is simply based on one Syracuse professors survey and not the gospel.

I can find a study that says the opposite on Google if i want.

All i know is that I see liberals giving there own money (see Bill Gates, see Warren Buffet) in a big way Up to HALF of their fortunes will be given to help save others.

And all I see are liberals such as Clinton and Carter selflessly giving their time and money away to help others.

I’d love to see GW Bush and his father step it up on that front (Bush 1 has been doing a little with Bill but could do more).

their own money, I meant.

shootfromthehip said:
I can find a study that says the opposite on Google if i want.

Will you be providing the link?

Hey Shoot, why don’t you worry about how much $$ you’re giving, instead of worrying about others.

Hey Papshmeer ( or whatever you are)…

I like Tacoma and it’s become a very cool waterfront destination, good food, museums, really a fun place to go.

You bitch about something that’s actually an okay thing….what up with that? Hmmmm?

In keeping with White House tradition, the president and vice president publicly released their returns on Thursday for national Tax Day. It turns out Republican George Bush opened his wallet substantially wider than Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden while residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

In 2009, the Barack and Michelle Obama donated 5.9 percent of their income to charity and Joe Biden gave away 1.4 percent of his. While in office, Bush routinely donated more than 10 percent of his income each year.

In2007, the giving broke down on party lines like this:

Cheney: 5.5 %

Bush: 17.6%

McCain: 27 %

Obama: 5.6 %

Clinton 14.7 %

Biden: 0.3 %

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/04/16/on-tax-day-returns-show-obama-and-biden-fall-short-of-bush-on-charitable-giving/#ixzz14fCs4udS

Conservatives More Liberal Givers
– Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

– Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

– Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

– Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

– In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
That doesn’t change the FACT that conservatives give more of THEIR OWN $$ to charity than libs.

That is based on a study by Arthur Brooks of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. His study has been disputed on several criteria, mainly the regression model that he used to determine the incomes of liberal and conservative households and the percentage given to charity. The dispute is that Brooks did not weight the model to reflect that conservatives are 40% of the pop while liberals are under 30% nor did he include moderates. Also, in dispute is that Brooks included contributions to local churches. Like contributions to a local neighborhood watch or block association or PTA, contributions to local churches are typically not included because they are considered investments in your own community where you yourself or family reap the benefits.

JamesA1102 said:
His study has been disputed on several criteria, mainly the regression model that he used to determine the incomes of liberal and conservative households and the percentage given to charity.

Link?

Michael Charles said:
Hey Papshmeer ( or whatever you are)…

I like Tacoma and it’s become a very cool waterfront destination, good food, museums, really a fun place to go.

You bitch about something that’s actually an okay thing….what up with that? Hmmmm?

Every cruise through the east side or hilltop? If my wife goes shopping, she’ll go to the South Hill Mall which is twice as far away as the Tacoma Mall. Every been in there? Used to be a great place, I remember when they built it, we lived very close, and it was a great place to go. These days it’s nothing but gangland central.

Yes, the Tacoma waterfront is very nice, and I assume that there are some nice areas of Detroit, as well.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Cheney: 5.5 %

And do you know where that came from? His profits from his Haliburton stocks. So suck on that.

Latin2 said:
Liberals only make up 20% of the U.S. population and Conservatives make up 40%…so it seems you Liberals kooks are the minority. It’s just you whine more. Also Glenn Beck who comes on at 5pm Eastern and 2PM IN THE AFTERNOON PACIFIC TIME…and he STILL BEATS OLBERMANN who appears at 8pm prime time daily.O’Reilly almost every night crushes the whole combined line up of MSNBC with his combined shows. That is the WHOLE line up of MSNBC nightly. Even the quirky Red Eye, that comes out at 3 AM IN THE MORNING on Fox beats many of the shows on MSNBC’s prime time line up. lol

Liberals whine more? Really?

Anyway, this doesn’t answer my question. If there’s already something there to meet the needs of the FOX followers, why would MSNBC follow suit with more of the same? Double saturation doesn’t really help either side, I would think, and FNC’s already angling FBN to meet that need as well.

MSNBC is fine as it is, it just needs to refine format, build up presence, and try to get viewers in. Truth be told, maybe ‘liberals’ don’t have the time to sit and watch hours upon hours of cable news like ‘republicans’ do.

the real john t said:
And do you know where that came from? His profits from his Haliburton stocks. So suck on that.

?? You have a problem with people making money?

Mr.Papshmer said:
?? You have a problem with people making money?

Sometimes people don’t care for people who make money off of government contracts from the government those same people want to cut spending from, as well as from companies which have had a fair share of questionable deals thanks for politians as well.

Mr.Papshmer said:
?? You have a problem with people making money?

Yes I do. Especially when they are Vice President and helps start a war and gives no bid contracts to the company they own stock in and was CEO of said company before he became VP.

uunngh.

The Tacoma “over-all look of the place” seems quite prosperous, a model of small outfits doing pretty well for themselves. Just my observation…

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Conservatives More Liberal Givers
– Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

– Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

– Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

– Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

– In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

OKay first off 2012 (if that is ur real name) there is nothing worng with what i do in my bedroom I like teabagging my partner and you like doing other things I understand that. Leave me a lone

Why u people got to be so against homosexuals.

Steve, perhaps you like many were guilty of having the wish being father to the thought [that KO would languish in Siberia forever vis-a-vis MessNBC].

I want him back for the sheer entertainment of a highly-skilled clown exercising his craft while being totally unaware that he’s the circus’s chief drawing card [until Rachel and Larry OverDose outflanked him on the zany Ultra Left...!]

“I dont understand why everyone says Dick Armey started the teabaggers cause everyone knows it was Larry Craig, Dennis Hastert, Ed Schrock and Mark Foley, duh.”

The ultra-left socialite socialists persist in trying to spread the BIG LIE so perfected by their hero Josef Stalin that the Taxed Enough Already Party was started by GOP insiders. If anything, the TEA are independents and non-affiliated Dems and Repubs who can’t stand BOTH parties’ big spending attitudes. In their [my] eyes, GWB was as big a dolt as Obama because of the spending of money that we didn’t have. Although Obama has tripled the rate of GWB’s profligate spending, George started this trend—-Clinton avoided it because he had a GOP Congress, but when GWB was elected in 2000, DeLay and Hastert & Armey thought that the piggy bank was theirs to empty. Ditto for Pelosi/Reid in ’06 & ’08. Cut back on ALL non-essential spending, including defense bonanzas that are over the top.

David Mangan said:
I want him back for the sheer entertainment of a highly-skilled clown exercising his craft while being totally unaware that he’s the circus’s chief drawing card

I doubt anyone could pass Glenn Beck in that catigory.

clindhartsen said:
Liberals whine more? Really?

Yes.

Alz said:
Yes.

Who whines about goverment spending?

Who whines about big goverment?

Who whines about taxes?

Who whines about Obama’s trip to India, Idonisia, Japan and South Korea?

Should I go on Alz, or do you get it?

the real john t said:
Who whines about goverment spending?

Who whines about big goverment?

Who whines about taxes?

Normal people , good God you are stupid.

murf said:
Normal people , good God you are stupid.

AHHHHHH! Poor little fake Marine Murf just doesn’t get it. Not to be unexpected.

the real john t said:
AHHHHHH! Poor little fake Marine Murf just doesn’t get it. Not to be unexpected.

Go to bed t ,your sister is waiting.

Goodnight t from Ohio ( R )

murf said:
Goodnight t from Ohio

What are your jammies tonight, a Green Brete or a Navy SEAL. You know the SEALs had to go rescue the Marines that got lost in the jungles of Vietnam don’t you?

murf said:
Go to bed t ,your sister is waiting.

Why do RWers always bring peoples family into the conversation? I guess they’re use to incest. That’s the only reason I can figure out.

murf said:
Go to bed t ,your sister is waiting.

Goodnight t from Ohio ( R )

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It was always silly to suggest that KO would be forced out over this minor issue.

It just goes to show that when Kieth said “Griffin thinks he is my boss” he was 100% accurate. It matters not really, Olbermann will be allowed back on air, he will continue his hate speech, and MSNBC will continue to be a distant second in the cable ratings war.

Their election night coverage was disgraceful, they will never live that down. So KO gets to come back and he will probably get a small ratings bump as a result of this story. He will blame it all on Bush and FNC….yawn.

gawd, i can’t believe i didn’t believe the publicity stunt angle…. it just dawned on me that it wasn’t so much a publicity stunt, but a diversion.

a diversion to get us off the topic of how bad the MSNBC coverage of election night was, and onto KO being suspended for breaking ethics rules. it worked. *SQUIRREL!*

i can’t believe i fell for it, and that i actually thought they might care about actual ethics….

TfT – I didn’t see your comment before I wrote mine! that’s what it was, wasn’t it? a big flipping shiny object to get us off the topic of their disastrous coverage….

shootfromthehip said:
Yes, it’s called Orange County.
.

uh….shootfromthehip

If you are from Orange County, you know that Orange County is a small county, and here it is;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Orange_County_California_Incorporated_and_Unincorporated_areas_Anaheim_Highlighted.svg/800px-Orange_County_California_Incorporated_and_Unincorporated_areas_Anaheim_Highlighted.svg.png

…and here is the 2010 midterm election map from Politico showing California again;

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4023/californiamap.jpg

that whole red area in Southern California IS NOT Orange County, but several counties, and note the large red part of eastern and central California. It just that Los Angeles and San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose have large DEPENDENT voters.

Phil is a whimp.

I mean to write you are FROM CALIFORNIA, yet you don’t know that Orange County is a small county compared to the rest of the ALL THAT RED.

lol…look at Nevada next door. See that blue spot? That’s Las Vegas in a sea of red Nevada for the House seat.

LOL@ those who think this was all done purposely, for whatever reason.

You idiots see conspiracies everywhere.

“HEY EVERYBODY, JUAN WILLIAMS WAS FIRED AND HE BECAME A FOLK HERO LETS DO THE SAME THING TO ELEVATE KEITH OLBERMANN! DERF!!! DERF!!!!”

*rollseyes*

Predictable, and sensible. Sooner than I thought, though. It also gave MSNBC a chance to really put a spotlight on Faux News and the core difference between Fox and everyone else.

Anything to keep MSNBC front and center, even if just momentarily. Knowing their audience, MSNBC was comfortable with creating a situation that would make news. Unfortunately, they don’t realize that content and personality trumps juvenile antics and stupidity.

No Fox journolists give campaign donations; opinionators do and with permission.

The problem is that MSNBC refers to Keith as a “journolist” when he clearly isn’t. The spotlight will stay on MSNBC, where it belongs.

MSNBC will continue to point the finger at Fox, all the while, three fingers will be pointing right back at them.

MSNBC=meltdown. The will never recover from their outrageous behavior on election night, despite all their attempts to blame others. They are just like hehimself – always blaming someone else for his own problems.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
LOL@ those who think this was all done purposely, for whatever reason.

what do you think it was then? do you think it was just a straight up slap on the wrist? it seems like a whole lotta hoopla for a two day suspension.

it obviously wasn’t over ethics, since that video from J$ highlights all of their on air campaigning and hypocrisy.
a publicity stunt for ratings just doesn’t really make sense, and was a huge risk… but a big ol’ diversion because of election night seems much more obvious to me.

Unfortunately the firing of Keith would have meant very little. I have the same dream that Jon Stewart stated last week, that MSNBC needs to become a straight news organization. That is the only thing that would make Fox stick out like a sore thumb. But now it is very hard to ridicule Fox’s brand of partisan journalism when MSNBC is doing the same thing and even doing it a little worse lately (election night coverage).

So it would take more than Keith’s absence to accomplish that. They would have to get rid of most of their people and the ones left would have to change significantly. I don’t really see that happening while they are still beating CNN and HLN but my last hope is Comcast will come in and do a major overhaul.

I am embarrassed of a network representing me (and the Laft) in such a manner and sometimes I really dont under stand how foxbaggers don’t feel the same way about their network.
I don’t understand why they don’t get aggravated when Fox reports the India trip lies endlessly or the Muslim crescent bullshit or whatever else. No sense of shame?
Oh well, that’s not my concern, my concern is the Left and I deplore how MSNBC represents it.

I have been watching less MSNBC lately and more CNN. It might be boring but it’s respectable.

“much more obvious” now.

sarainitaly said:
what do you think it was then? do you think it was just a straight up slap on the wrist? it seems like a whole lotta hoopla for a two day suspension.

I think it was real incident and a real suspension. But the amount of journalists and fans (300,000 signatures!?!) who came to Keith’s defense was overwhelming and MSNBC blinked.

Unfortunately this will only make Keith’s head bigger.

TfT said:
MSNBC=meltdown

You have been saying that for a year. They would have melted by now, but they remain squarely in second place out of four.

This is unfortunate. MSNBC had a real opportunity to make a stand for journalistic ethics. Now, all it has proven is that it has as little concern for ethics as FOX “News”. I won’t be watching Olbermann. Of course, I never watched him much to begin with. MSNBC and FOX “News” need to call the sewer suckers. Now.

Also I am really pissed (and surprised) at those 300,000 people who rushed to Keith’s defense. Those people are so blinded by their politics that they can’t see what an immature, arrogant, nasty fool Olbermann is. They are no better in my eyes than people who would rush to Limbaugh’s defense and I hate them equally even though they are on my side of the fence.

Fucking ridiculous.

sarainitaly said:
it obviously wasn’t over ethics, since that video from J$ highlights all of their on air campaigning and hypocrisy.

I would appreciate your not dumping trash here.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
TfT said:
MSNBC=meltdown

You have been saying that for a year. They would have melted by now, but they remain squarely in second place out of four.

In fairness, he has so few tired cliches in his “arsenal” that if we take this from him he is defenseless.

i agree with most of what you said – and there are things that some people on FOX might focus on that I don’t agree with. but as FOX has said in the past, they are an alternative to the liberal controlled MSM. To hear liberal bias interjected into every medium is obnoxious. it is nice to have FOX as an alternative. and they really do offer both sides of stories. they were created as an answer to the already existing (liberal) bias in the media… And when that’s all *you’ve got* and it is under attack 24/7, people get defensive of it.

one of the reasons they seem, to some, to be very right wing is because the message heard on FOX is NOT that of all the liberal MSM – it is actually balanced or right of center. where as the networks and other cable channels come at their stories from the left, FOX news is balanced, and a couple of their commentators are Repub or conservative. (Couric, Williams, Lauer, King, Gibson, Sawyer, etc….all those major voices are solidly liberal, and you can tell when you watch them. their bias is obvious, it is reflected in their questioning, in their comments, in the difference in how they treat liberal or conservative interviewees.)

Megyn, as an example, was criticized and smeared for covering the black panther story – a story she had the scoop on – a perfectly legitimate story that no one else was covering. For that she was accused of promoting the *scary black man* image. Attacked for carrying a story, just because no one on the Left would dare to cover a story like that? Ridiculous. There was nothing wrong with covering it – but it was used as some proof of far right wing hate or something…

and as some people like to point out, FOX really doesn’t have the reach that 3 networks plus all the other cable channels combined, but yet there is a 24/7 barrage of attacks to try and shut them down. Why is that? They actually reflect the views of the majority of the country – they deserve to have a voice, or an outlet, or whatever, no?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I think it was real incident and a real suspension. But the amount of journalists and fans (300,000 signatures!?!) who came to Keith’s defense was overwhelming and MSNBC blinked.

Unfortunately this will only make Keith’s head bigger.

yea…that could be true too.
they just leaned forward!

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Also I am really pissed (and surprised) at those 300,000 people who rushed to Keith’s defense. Those people are so blinded by their politics that they can’t see what an immature, arrogant, nasty fool Olbermann is.

wow, Big Deal – we are agreeing on a lot lately. ;O)

you’re probably right that it was a suspension and they caved….
it just seemed so obvious to me though (now), that it was a big huge distraction, but i’m probably giving them too much credit. haha

thanks for your civil discussion.

sarainitaly said:
i agree with most of what you said – and there are things that some people on FOX might focus on that I don’t agree with. but as FOX has said in the past, they are an alternative to the liberal controlled MSM. To hear liberal bias interjected into every medium is obnoxious. it is nice to have FOX as an alternative. and they really do offer both sides of stories. they were created as an answer to the already existing (liberal) bias in the media… And when that’s all *you’ve got* and it is under attack 24/7, people get defensive of it.

one of the reasons they seem, to some, to be very right wing is because the message heard on FOX is NOT that of all the liberal MSM – it is actually balanced or right of center. where as the networks and other cable channels come at their stories from the left, FOX news is balanced, and a couple of their commentators are Repub or conservative. (Couric, Williams, Lauer, King, Gibson, Sawyer, etc….all those major voices are solidly liberal, and you can tell when you watch them. their bias is obvious, it is reflected in their questioning, in their comments, in the difference in how they treat liberal or conservative interviewees.)

Megyn, as an example, was criticized and smeared for covering the black panther story – a story she had the scoop on – a perfectly legitimate story that no one else was covering. For that she was accused of promoting the *scary black man* image. Attacked for carrying a story, just because no one on the Left would dare to cover a story like that? Ridiculous. There was nothing wrong with covering it – but it was used as some proof of far right wing hate or something…

and as some people like to point out, FOX really doesn’t have the reach that 3 networks plus all the other cable channels combined, but yet there is a 24/7 barrage of attacks to try and shut them down. Why is that? They actually reflect the views of the majority of the country – they deserve to have a voice, or an outlet, or whatever, no?

Another Kart ‘o Krap. The NBPP matter was never a story. Kelly was willing to stake out a story, manufacture a “scoop” and if racial tension and divisiveness were the result, well, it’s all about Kelly, isn’t it?

And, what are these “views” FOX “News” has. Is news suppose to be about “views”? Are “views” and “facts” synonymous? When did that happen? Before or after the Republicans and FOX changed the laws of physics and math? Give us all these views. Be very specific. Break them down by each barking seal at FOX “News”. Stick to the primary source. No extraneous information from disreputable and discredited sources. No stale-dated sources. No comparisons to other networks. Just a simple listing of these views.

sarainitaly said:
To hear liberal bias interjected into every medium is obnoxious. it is nice to have FOX as an alternative. and they really do offer both sides of stories.

The offer both sides but they mostly push one side as being the right side.
And the so-called “liberal media” has been hard on Obama for a half a year now. The Oil Spill, the War, the Economy and now especially the “shellacking” on election night. They smell blood in the water and they are in a feeding frenzy like all journalists get. Sure Obama got a long honeymoon because he broke a glass ceiling, but now he is being treated like any other president (except on MSNBC). Journalists love to build you up and then delight in tearing you down. That sells.
The liberal media is a myth. The right has a stronger voice through all their many publications, talk radio and the number one cable network. By far. The balance has shifted to you guys a decade or two ago but that hasn’t stopped you guys from playing the poor little victims.

CBS, NBC and ABC do 20 minutes of news 5 times a week and most of that is straight news. They do 3 to 5 minutes of politics a day against the 24/7 right-wing media onslaught.

Liberal media indeed.

The Real Royal King said:
The NBPP matter was never a story.

How was the Black Panthers story not a story? DOH filed a complaint in federal court alleging that these thugs committed numerous violations of the Voting Right Act. The defendants defaulted, and the court entered a default judgment. Then when the Obama/Holder administration came in, the DOJ reversed course and unilaterally agreed to lift the default and dismiss the lawsuit. The career DOJ lawyers who handled the case later testified before Congress that they were pressured to do so by political appointees who do not believe in race neutral application of the civil rights laws (which is unto itself a violation of the 14th Amendment).

That’s not a story? It’s wrong for Fox to report those facts? That information shouldn’t even be permitted into the public sphere? Why? What’s wrong with having those facts known to the public so that those of us who actually believe in the 14th Amendment can judged whether this administration does too?

The Real Royal King said:
Megyn, as an example, was criticized and smeared for covering the black panther story

She didn’t cover that story, she pushed and advocated it during their so-called ‘News” hour. And they endlessly ran the “kill cracker babies” clip, during her show, during many other shows, and as promos (lol) even though it had nothing to do with the voter fraud case. AS A FUCKING PROMO!!
Hey, I’m not going to rehash that , if you’re ok with that kind of journalism that’s fine. It disgusts me.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
She didn’t cover that story, she pushed and advocated it during their so-called ‘News” hour. And they endlessly ran the “kill cracker babies” clip, during her show, during many other shows, and as promos (lol) even though it had nothing to do with the voter fraud case. AS A FUCKING PROMO!!
Hey, I’m not going to rehash that , if you’re ok with that kind of journalism that’s fine. It disgusts me.

And having someone publicly advocate the murder of babies on the basis of race isn’t newsworthy?

You’re problem is that the story interferes with the liberal narrative that racism is solely a function of white southern conservatives.

Jonathan Scott said:
Hell yes! Phil Griffin didn’t expect this kind of backlash?? What an idiot. But no matter Keith is back and now a lot more popular than he was last week. How you like that teabaggers?

Anyone who thought he wouldn’t be back was wrong. He will continue to be the smug asshole he has always been. His ratings will jump for a short time and then hit the slides again. Comcast most likely will let his contract run out and let him go. He’s a loser. Always has been.

iris said:
Comcast caved!!!I guess half a million emails and phone calls isn’t what they expected!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Comcast did nothing of the sort. Try educating yourself.

http://www.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/05/burke-comcast-msnbc

TRRK – the meltdown started Tuesday night – between Chris, Rachel, Olby, Larry and Gene……if you didn’t see it you really missed it. What a bunch of children behaving badly. It will forever be a meltdown moment for NBC.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
She didn’t cover that story, she pushed and advocated it during their so-called ‘News” hour. And they endlessly ran the “kill cracker babies” clip, during her show, during many other shows, and as promos (lol) even though it had nothing to do with the voter fraud case. AS A FUCKING PROMO!!

Isn’t it more shocking that someone can publicly advocate the murder of babies on the basis of race and it be deemed “not news” by some networks? Seriously, that’s now news?

AnonymousFinch said:
And having someone publicly advocate the murder of babies on the basis of race isn’t newsworthy?

If it was news then it should have been reported when he said it a year before. But Fox reported it after the fact because it became part of their PROSECUTION of the voter fraud case. Yes, they gave up reporting the story and instead started prosecuting the defendant on the “news”. And I hardly find running it repeatedly all weekend long as a promo newsworthy. There is something else going on there but “news” it’s not.

Anyway, like I said…not going to rehash. You know how I feel and you have to live with how you feel so there isn’t anything more to say about that.

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Big_F-ing_Deal said:
If it was news then it should have been reported when he said it a year before. But Fox reported it after the fact because it became part of their PROSECUTION of the voter fraud case. Yes, they gave up reporting the story and instead started prosecuting the defendant on the “news”. And I hardly find running it repeatedly all weekend long as a promo newsworthy. There is something else going on there but “news” it’s not.

They reported it when they did because it coincided with the Congressional testimony. Fox had no control over that.

What’s wrong with running it as a promo? It is news. People were rightfully shocked by it

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
And they endlessly ran the “kill cracker babies” clip, during her show, during many other shows, and as promos (lol) even though it had nothing to do with the voter fraud case.

It did have to do with the voter fraud case because THAT was the guy who Holder/Obama let off the hook. He obviously wasn’t repentant about what he had done. That’s relevant to whether or not you let the guy off after you’ve won a default against him.

AnonymousFinch said:
It did have to do with the voter fraud case because THAT was the guy who Holder/Obama let off the hook. He obviously wasn’t repentant about what he had done. That’s relevant to whether or not you let the guy off after you’ve won a default against him.

that’s nice, dear

AnonymousFinch said:
It did have to do with the voter fraud case because THAT was the guy who Holder/Obama let off the hook. He obviously wasn’t repentant about what he had done. That’s relevant to whether or not you let the guy off after you’ve won a default against him.

Ok, honey.

AnonymousFinch said:
They reported it when they did because it coincided with the Congressional testimony. Fox had no control over that.

What’s wrong with running it as a promo? It is news. People were rightfully shocked by it

Don’t forget to pick up a gallon of milk on your way home tonight.

The Real Rabid Kook said:
Another Kart ‘o Krap. The NBPP matter was never a story. Kelly was willing to stake out a story, manufacture a “scoop” and if racial tension and divisiveness were the result, well, it’s all about Kelly, isn’t it?

I see you missed the Commission on Civil Rights report, which states that the Coivil Rights Deaprtment is “at war with its core mission of guaranteeing equal protection (under) the laws for all Americans” and the ongoing IG investigation into them. Not only is it a story, but it’s not nearly over.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I am embarrassed of a network representing me (and the Laft) in such a manner and sometimes I really dont under stand how foxbaggers don’t feel the same way about their network.

Well, if you are, then I’d bet that a lot of MSNBC jounalist fans are too. In fact, I know they are, judging from the bad press MSNBC took over their election night coverage.

No matter how much these journalists want Olbermann around to yell “shut the hell up” to John Boehner and company….to do all the things they wished that they could do….to continue to be the great media hope of hyping lefty polemics and still maintaining a competitive audience…. THIS thing between Olbermann and MSNBC has GOT to have left a very bitter taste in their mouths.

I don’t think MSNBC can cave to Olbermann again. I think he’s up his eighth life now, and he’s essentially brought Phil Griffin to that point with him.

I doubt that during the next election that MSNBC can have the sort of dorm room liberal bull-session coverage that it last had.

Olbermann may still have the Daily Kos readers, but he’s losing the support among his own.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Don’t forget to pick up a gallon of milk on your way home tonight.

AnonymousFinch said:
How was the Black Panthers story not a story? DOH filed a complaint in federal court alleging that these thugs committed numerous violations of the Voting Right Act. The defendants defaulted, and the court entered a default judgment. Then when the Obama/Holder administration came in, the DOJ reversed course and unilaterally agreed to lift the default and dismiss the lawsuit. The career DOJ lawyers who handled the case later testified before Congress that they were pressured to do so by political appointees who do not believe in race neutral application of the civil rights laws (which is unto itself a violation of the 14th Amendment).

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
that’s nice, dear

Now, you’re just embarrassing yourself, BFD.

TfT said:
TRRK – the meltdown started Tuesday night – between Chris, Rachel, Olby, Larry and Gene……if you didn’t see it you really missed it. What a bunch of children behaving badly. It will forever be a meltdown moment for NBC.

Yeah, whatever. Don’t want to deal with your angry, oft-spewed cliches today. Have a nice day.

AnonymousFinch said:
How was the Black Panthers story not a story? DOH filed a complaint in federal court alleging that these thugs committed numerous violations of the Voting Right Act. The defendants defaulted, and the court entered a default judgment. Then when the Obama/Holder administration came in, the DOJ reversed course and unilaterally agreed to lift the default and dismiss the lawsuit. The career DOJ lawyers who handled the case later testified before Congress that they were pressured to do so by political appointees who do not believe in race neutral application of the civil rights laws (which is unto itself a violation of the 14th Amendment).

That’s not a story? It’s wrong for Fox to report those facts? That information shouldn’t even be permitted into the public sphere? Why? What’s wrong with having those facts known to the public so that those of us who actually believe in the 14th Amendment can judged whether this administration does too?

Yeah, whatever. Don’t want to deal with your angry, oft-spewed cliches today. Have a nice day.

AnonymousFinch said:
It did have to do with the voter fraud case because THAT was the guy who Holder/Obama let off the hook. He obviously wasn’t repentant about what he had done. That’s relevant to whether or not you let the guy off after you’ve won a default against him.

Then there was Jerry Jackson, the guy who was completely let off the hook (along with Malik Shabazz and the NBPP itself) after the default judgment. Guess what he was doing on Election Day.

The Real Rabid Kook said:
Yeah, whatever. Don’t want to deal with your angry, oft-spewed cliches today. Have a nice day.

Shorter Kook: I’ve got nothing.

Cecelia said:
Well, if you are, then I’d bet that a lot of MSNBC jounalist fans are too. In fact, I know they are, judging from the bad press MSNBC took over their election night coverage.

No matter how much these journalists want Olbermann around to yell “shut the hell up” to John Boehner and company….to do all the things they wished that they could do….to continue to be the great media hope of hyping lefty polemics and still maintaining a competitive audience…. THIS thing between Olbermann and MSNBC has GOT to have left a very bitter taste in their mouths.

I don’t think MSNBC can cave to Olbermann again. I think he’s up his eighth life now, and he’s essentially brought Phil Griffin to that point with him.

I doubt that during the next election that MSNBC can have the sort of dorm room liberal bull-session coverage that it last had.

Olbermann may still have the Daily Kos readers, but he’s losing the support among his own.

I don’t disagree with anything you said, Cecelia, but you have to remember that the unfortunate Kristol was one of the first to come running to Olbermann’s aid, and he was joined by scores of other journalists. This was pure self-absorption and self-interest. The real tragedy here is that MSNBC has an ethical standard that FOX “News” lacks, and had MSNBC stuck to its guns, it would have framed the issue in a way that put FOX “News” in a very, very bad light indeed. That opportunity was blown. But, you are very wrong to frame this as some liberal crusade and triumph.

The Real Royal King said:
Yeah, whatever. Don’t want to deal with your angry, oft-spewed cliches today. Have a nice day.

Not to worry, folks. The Real Royal King has a slew of aliases here who WILL come in to “deal” with things by issuing a load of sophomoric insults.

Cue Iris…10…9…8…7…6…

Pablo said:
Shorter Kook: I’ve got nothing.

Uh huh.

Cecelia said:
Not to worry, folks. The Real Royal King has a slew of aliases here who WILL come in to “deal” with things by issuing a load of sophomoric insults.

Cue Iris…10…9…8…7…6…

I am surprised you have become such a damn liar. A loss for all of us.

AnonymousFinch said:
How was the Black Panthers story not a story? DOH filed a complaint in federal court alleging that these thugs committed numerous violations of the Voting Right Act. The defendants defaulted, and the court entered a default judgment. Then when the Obama/Holder administration came in, the DOJ reversed course and unilaterally agreed to lift the default and dismiss the lawsuit. The career DOJ lawyers who handled the case later testified before Congress that they were pressured to do so by political appointees who do not believe in race neutral application of the civil rights laws (which is unto itself a violation of the 14th Amendment).

That’s not a story? It’s wrong for Fox to report those facts? That information shouldn’t even be permitted into the public sphere? Why? What’s wrong with having those facts known to the public so that those of us who actually believe in the 14th Amendment can judged whether this administration does too?

If they don’t like it, it isn’t news. If it’s on MSNBC, even if it’s flying out of Fat Ed’s putrid piehole, it’s news. If Fox runs it, it isn’t news. La la la la la la la, I can’t heeeeear yoooou!

I chalk it up to a lack of maturity.

Cecelia said:
Now, you’re just embarrassing yourself, BFD.

I was going to say that you’d have to admit that it’s all become cliche now with AF and TfT, but given your new lack of veracity, I suppose that’s no longer correct. A shame.

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The Real Royal King said:
don’t disagree with anything you said, Cecelia, but you have to remember that the unfortunate Kristol was one of the first to come running to Olbermann’s aid, and he was joined by scores of other journalists. This was pure self-absorption and self-interest. The real tragedy here is that MSNBC has an ethical standard that FOX “News” lacks, and had MSNBC stuck to its guns, it would have framed the issue in a way that put FOX “News” in a very, very bad light indeed. That opportunity was blown. But, you are very wrong to frame this as some liberal crusade and triumph.

Actually, TRRK, Fox News has a policy that isn’t different from some other mediaa outlets.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19178161/

The Real Royal King said:
I am surprised you have become such a damn liar. A loss for all of us.

TRRK, I’m afraid that you’re not going to be able to sell that I’m lying about you, under ANY of your aliases.

Some_Dude said:
Predictable, and sensible. Sooner than I thought, though. It also gave MSNBC a chance to really put a spotlight on Faux News and the core difference between Fox and everyone else.

Oh, yes. MSNBC has rules, dammit, and if you break them, you get a long weekend. It’s important to show how seriously they take their journalistic impartiality. Integrity, FTW!!

Cecelia said:
Now, you’re just embarrassing yourself, BFD.

Well, it’s just that Finchie is talking about the BPP case and it being newsworthy and I am talking about the WAY Fox covered it by taking sides during their news hour. Two different things. How Megyn started prosecuting the case instead of reporting it. Oh hey, wasn’t Megyn a prosecutor before she joined Fox? Old habits are hard to break. I also said I believe there was race-baiting going on by blowing up a legitimate story all out of proportion with “KILL CRACKER BABIES promos.

Again, two different things.

Finally I stated that I knew Finch’s opinion and he knew mine so I didn’t really want to discuss this old news in an endless loop anymore. I stated all this very nicely. No teaturd (lol) or name calling or anything.

So when Finch kept asking questions after I twice said I was done I coyly dismissed him with pet names and housewife cliches.

This is a large improvement from the ol’ trolling BFD.

But somehow I am still embarrassing myself.

THERE JUST IS NO PLEASING SOME PEOPLE!!!lolol!!!

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
This is a large improvement from the ol’ trolling BFD.

But somehow I am still embarrassing myself.

THERE JUST IS NO PLEASING SOME PEOPLE!!!lolol!!!

Well, you just did, Mister!

Good answer!

Cecelia said:
Actually, TRRK, Fox News has a policy that isn’t different from some other mediaa outlets.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19178161/

Cecelia said:
TRRK, I’m afraid that you’re not going to be able to sell that I’m lying about you, under ANY of your aliases.

Yeah, whatever, Cecelia. Tired of you constant bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining. Coupled with your lying, no patience for you today. I will repeat: I have never, not once, used any UserName other than the Real Royal King at Mediate.

Now stick that in your blow hole and have a nice day.

Although I support Olbermann, MSNBC has shown their integrity by not allowing their commentators to donate or even contribute to donating to a political party. Unlike Fox who openly, even on their shows actively campaign for a political party by (one example) of letting their GOP candidates put on the shows the website of where to contribute. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/oct/04/fox-news-inaccuracy-class-itself/

clindhartsen said:
Why would he be gone post-Comcast?

Have you never been through a merger?

Buddy, it is house cleaning time….Buyers always want to make a new start…the market MSNBC has cut out for themselves is topped out now and the next few years.

In short…it just makes good business sense to dump him and his writers and many of the other personalities on MSNBC.

glenn113 said:
Although I support Olbermann, MSNBC has shown their integrity by not allowing their commentators to donate or even contribute to donating to a political party

Wrong. MSNBC employees are allowed to make political donations as long as they play Mother, May I? with Phil first.

Pablo said:
Oh, yes. MSNBC has rules, dammit, and if you break them, you get a long weekend. It’s important to show how seriously they take their journalistic impartiality. Integrity, FTW!!

MSNBC showed that they do take it seriously. There are degrees in such matters, but even from a binary perspective this highlights the core agenda of Fox. Regardless of your leaning, you would be intellectually dishonest to suggest otherwise.

Some_Dude said:
MSNBC showed that they do take it seriously. There are degrees in such matters, but even from a binary perspective this highlights the core agenda of Fox. Regardless of your leaning, you would be intellectually dishonest to suggest otherwise.

Dude, this is an MSNBC story, not a Fox story. Read and learn.

The Real Royal King said:
Yeah, whatever, Cecelia. Tired of you constant bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining. Coupled with your lying, no patience for you today. I will repeat: I have never, not once, used any UserName other than the Real Royal King at Mediate.

Now stick that in your blow hole and have a nice day.

TRRK, I understand that you were “outed” on Olby Watch as posting under as many as 20 different aliases per day. Any comment on that?

glenn113 said:
Unlike Fox who openly, even on their shows actively campaign for a political party by (one example) of letting their GOP candidates put on the shows the website of where to contribute.

Oh, that’s wrong too. By a lot.

King, your constant use of the terms bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining, when you’re bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining, is growing stale.

The Real Royal King said:
Now stick that in your blow hole and have a nice day.

Mmmm. that sounds fun.

Steve writes “an amazingly short amount of time for what was called an ‘indefinite’ suspension”. I couldn’t agree more.

Any other read of the situation is intellectually dishonest. I’m glad to see you remain a voice of sanity.

Yes, Mr. Olbermann (and PMSDNC’s) little publicity stunt played well. I suppose they all felt if “Mr. Ego” couldn’t get ratings being ON the air, PMSDNC would ginn up a non-story to get Olbermann noticed by being OFF the air. It worked. Olbermann is a powerful tool in the Republican arsenal. All the flatulent gas-bag needs to do is open his mouth.

felixw said:
The day will come when Olbermann is fired from MSNBC. But this offense was a joke — as if anyone had any doubts about Olbermann’s political affiliations! His bigger problem is his reputation as a blowhard, the boring predictability of a show in which no one ever disagrees with the host, and his declining ratings (down by more 50% since 2008).

Yes, those declining ratings are a wonderful thing to behold ! Sends a message to the 15 people who watch MSNBC…. maybe they will pick up 2 more people who MIGHT want to “Lean Forward”.
BTW–what is that supposed to mean anyway? Very silly !!

clindhartsen said:
Why would he be gone post-Comcast?

He’ll be gone either then or when his contract is up. Even the dimwits at NBC know they can’t collect revenues without ratings.

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