Zero, you windbags. Like most of the country, we want the White House vacated by the current occupier.

“Interestingly enough, Marlantes noted, the group least likely to vote for a Mormon president isn’t conservative evangelicals, but in fact, liberal Democrats. She claimed many people in this group just dismiss Mormonism as a “cult.”

The lefty whackjobs are the bigots. We’ve seen it here.

Who cares about his faith? It’s his policies that suck.  While I don’t want him back in MA, I sure don’t want him inflicted on the country.

Calm down your yelling won’t help.

BTW my sister married into that faith and I think his magic underwear are too tight.  They are like clones and I never would have believed it or I wouldn’t have campaigned for him back when he was the other guy.

Chris Matthews listeners and followers are a cult. I don’t like Romney because he is Obama-Lite, his religious beliefs are not a concern of mine. What concerns me is the National GOP is forcing this RINO down our throats, and come November if Mitt is the GOP candidate, it will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Matthews spins, lies and spews DNC talking points, and his only political clain to fame was he was a speachwriter for Jimmy Carter, the second worst president in our nations’ history. Somebody debate this point.

Every religion is basically a cult.  Look at the pope…biggest cult leader in the world.

Not realistic to say that “every religion is basically a cult”.

cult/kəlt/
Noun:A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

This is another example of Chris Matthews own intolerant bigotry and his continual slander against others.

Average is 3%, but in some states, up to 7%. Alas, most Americans want a Christian in the White House. Sorry, Big Petty. Thousands of Blightphart’s talking points ain’t a gonna change that.

Except, Mormonism is a cult ….

Sure.
Many who listen and follow Chris Matthews disagree with him vehemently. Are they part of this cult?
Which GOP candidate would you prefer?
Matthews credentials are no better or worse than any other talking head.
Which president is worst is highly subjective. But since you’re of the opinion that Carter was second worse a complete listing is in order. Take your time.

I a fundamentalist Christian have no problem with Romney being a Mormon. I have never heard of him attempting to push any Mormon doctrine on anyone. I don’t think it is an issue. I don’t like his liberal politics and his flip flopping but I like Obamas adherence to socialist doctrine even less. I will vote Romney if he is the Republican candidate. Would prefer one of the others but I will vote for Romney.

Yes, at your fingertips is a keyboard which can be used to obtain the google first definition of ‘cult’… which is verbatim what you stated above.

Google’s second definition is: “A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.”

You might want to reconsider your use of the term ‘cult’ in the way you used it since the second Google definition even implies that use should be questioned.

Using Google as a dictionary is on the same level as using Wiki as a non-partisan factual source – neither have earned respect yet.

For a ‘charged’ word such as ‘cult’, consider referencing any of the dozens of religion and theology dictionaries for research – also available via the keyboard at your fingertips.

Actually my uncle, who is fairly right wing, wont support a mormon in office. He was originally going for Perry at first until he learned about the Vaccine program

I was going to say much the same thing. I don’t think Matthews is a bigot per se, but he works very hard to fit almost everything into a bigotry/racist/sexist frame which is both poor journalism and just plain stupidly incendiary.

If Matthews would spend 10 seconds looking at the actual candidates and what they are saying, he would see that it is because conservatives (I regard myself as a moderate) do not think Romney shares their values (too liberal) and liberals think he does not share their values (too conservative).

This is strictly candidate Romney’s fault for trying to play to both sides of the political spectrum.

I am sure there are those who have issues with his faith, but they are
about as common (not at all common) as those who dislike Obama for his
race. Obama is disliked for his policies by and large and so is Mitt. Calling it race or religion based is a disservice to the public, the preponderant majority of whom are looking at issues.

Matthews is the real problem with his obvious struggles to maintain his lazy view that it is all about race, religion and gender. He does this because it is all he knows. Which is why he is at MSNBC. Irrelevant people belong at irrelevant jobs.

accidental double post. I am in Vegas, as if that is an excuse.

deleted as irrelevant by me.

Obama#1,Carter#2,Hoover#3,LBJ#4,Wilson#5: I am torn on number 6,James Buchanan for failing to stop the the comming civil war, or Harry Truman, for losing Nationalist China, and a tie for the war in Korea. In Truman’s defense the spy Richard Philby leaked to the Soviets,and Red China, that the US would not use the Bomb in the Korean conflict, but Trumans waffleing on the Bomb caused China’s entry into the conflict.  A good comparison to current day Obama/Iran relationship and his percieved weakness in taking action. The world sees Hiliary Clinton as the agressor in Libya, not Obama who likes to ‘lead from behind’.

The reason some Dems globally say NO to Mormonism is the Church’s history re women, civil rights, homosexuality, etc. Their social POV is antithetical to those types of values. Add

Romney belongs to Racist faith for 31 years without saying anytthing.  He says it was the truth.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RckqB2u9r3k

Lily1957 :I don’t like his liberal politics and his flip flopping but I like Obamas adherence to socialist doctrine even less

ROTFLMAO!! Watch Faux News much?

BTW could you name some of Obama’s policies that follow this so-called socialist doctine? LOL

ROTFLMAO?  Faux News?  How old are you?

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” was going to say much the
same thing. I don’t think Matthews is a bigot per se, but he works very hard to
fit almost everything into a bigotry/racist/sexist frame which is both poor
journalism and just plain stupidly incendiary.”

Are you honestly denying that
Romney’s Mormonism was actually not an issue for some Evangelical Christians as
far back as the 2008 campaign?

You just won’t admit that bigotry
exists inside the Republican party even against each other.

What I find interesting is if
Evangelicals ultimately support Romney that would mean that they are
sacrificing their religious principals for electoral gain. They would be
supporting a man whose religion explicitly considers their Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ to be the offspring of God and one of his many Heavenly wives and is not
unique from humans but is just the first offspring.  

“If Matthews would spend 10 seconds looking at the actual candidates and
what they are saying, he would see that it is because conservatives (I regard
myself as a moderate) do not think Romney shares their values (too liberal) and
liberals think he does not share their values (too conservative).’

You’re denying that there is a
religious litmus test among many Republican primary voters. All Matthews is
wondering is how much of a factor will religious play in the the nomination
process.

“I am sure there are those who have issues with his faith, but they are
about as common (not at all common) as those who dislike Obama for his
race. Obama is disliked for his policies by and large and so is Mitt. Calling
it race or religion based is a disservice to the public, the preponderant
majority of whom are looking at issues.”

I guess you weren’t on earth when
Republicans especially Faux News played that edited clip of Obama’s minister ad
nauseum. That played on both race and religion and guilt by association. Then
you had the Bill Ayers crap and the right wing using Obama’s middle name
Hussein as a curse word. And let us not forget the birth certificate issue
which was a way of saying he wasn’t like other Americans without explicitly
playing up race.

“Matthews is the real problem with his obvious struggles to maintain his
lazy view that it is all about race, religion and gender. He does this because
it is all he knows. Which is why he is at MSNBC. Irrelevant people belong at
irrelevant jobs. ”

About as lazy as Newt Gingrich
claiming that black people would rather collect food stamps than a job or Rick
Santorum inferring that black oh I meant ‘blah people’  need him to help us with our work ethic

. I guess  I need call in sick tomorrow so I can collect
my benefits.

I will be 40 later this year.Was that the only thing that you could find to attack about my post?

Why not help Lily out and point out some of Obama’s policies which are based upon socialist doctorine.

And the Mormons only allowed blacks in after Carter threatened the Church’s tax exempt status.

Orthodox christianity has a definition that all missionary (evangelical) movements take to the field (all countries of   the world. The definition is in 1st John: Anyone who does not confess that Jesus is God. 1st John is a letter written to Christians about the very thing your talking about. John warns about what christians call ( christian cults) 1st John says that they belong to antichrist. The 4 things christian cults reject are the “deity of Christ” the triune God” Father, Son, Holy Spirit” The bodily resurrection of Christ” and they reject the truth that Mary was virgin when she bore Jesus the Christ

In case you missed it I did say that there were those for whom his religion is an issue.

I am not a Republican or Democrat.I think both parties are pointlessly corrupt and inept. I am No Party Affiliation.

There is some bigotry in both parties just as there is in the general society. However, I do not believe it is nearly as widespread as some make it out to be.

Do some voters have a religious litmus test? Absolutely. Are they more likely to be Republican than Democrat? Yep, because there are more Evangelical Christians in the GOP. However, that is not all Republicans or Democrats.

The Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers stuff is just the newest generation of this kind of trash. It has been part of politics since John Adams was accused of frequenting prostitutes.

I do agree that the birther thing took root because of Obama’s name. Trust me. My name is Keeva. I do not need to be told about the consequences of an unusual foreign sounding name. But, again, politics.

What is new and most troubling is the level of the rancor and anger. The purely nasty tone that is now the new normal. And that is a very bad thing.

1.The Exploitation of the working class by the greedy bankers.
2.Social Justice brings about Social Equality.
3.A Redistribution of wealth based on ones contribution to society.
4.State owned industries:ie GM, Chrysler
5.Restricting Private Ownership, states rights, promotes common
   ownership for the good of all.
6.Forgivness of student debt,voiding debt contracts for education.
7.Resource Allocation from the haves, USA, to the 3rd world.

These are just 7 examples of Obama’s Marxist teachings being put into practice in the 3 years he’s been in office. Another 5 years and we would have a planned economy as the Marxist model.

The Cherokee tribe kicked out of their Nation’s blacks in 2010, decendents of slaves the Cherokee once owned. Who says the government has the right to determine who is Native and who is not? 

Religion is bad (I have no dog in this fight) if it isn’t Islam, though?

Have you once EVER considered that hypocrisy? 

Wouldn’t the real down to earth question be how many people who make up the NEW GOP have an issue with religious freedom and people of other faiths? The follow up question being “and do these people really feel they represent America in any true manner?” but that wouldn’t be an honest question because it’s much better to simply say that it’s a “Romney issue” than a pretty scary American NEW GOP issue.

Most of the country? We will see gloves, come Noverber 2.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-1

Dunb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb

Once again revealing the stupidity of the rancid Murcuhn masses.  Bring back BushDrunk!

[Thanks Josh. Guess what I ran across on the web not long ago. This little goodie!]

         Mormonism’s DIRTY Little Secret

                   by Aaronita Smith

     
Non-Mormon scholars as well as Mormon ones are aware of a hard-core
pornographic drawing in the “Book of Abraham” which is Mormon-approved
scripture.
     This Book is part of the “Pearl of Great Price”
which, along with the “Book of Mormon” and the “Doctrine and Covenants,”
make up the LDS church’s “triple combination” in one volume.
    
The porn is found in Fig. 7 of Facsimile 2 in the “Book of Abraham”
which shows two beings facing each other, which were described by Joseph
Smith as representing the “Holy Ghost” and “God sitting upon his
throne,” the latter clearly showing an aroused male sex organ.
    
After Smith published this sketch in his newspaper in 1842, which
offended Mormon sensibilities, the phallic portion was whited out for
more than a century until the “restored” LDS church decided in 1981 to
restore what had long been censored!
     Equally shocking was the
discovery that the “Book of Abraham” had nothing to do with Abraham or
his God but was actually based on ancient Egyptian funeral documents
depicting occultic obscene practices – and the original sketches showed
an erotic phallus on both beings including the one Smith blasphemously
claimed was the Holy Ghost!
     For further information see “Book
of Abraham” (Wikipedia). Also see Jerald and Sandra Tanner’s “Mormonism -
Shadow or Reality?” which on 76 pages reproduces the original Egyptian
X-rated drawings and shows how Smith altered them and created one of his
many frauds. Highlights in the classic Tanner work can be seen by
typing “Facts From Mormons (By a Utah Resident)” and “What LDS Leaders
Say” on Yahoo.

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