Senator, you could have made your point just as well without mentioning Hitler or Stalin.

But it was very Glenn Beck like logic you used in your argument. Congratulations.

Tell me, friends….Why does Mathews seems so old and rancid? It is not reside on his grey, is it?

…on his grey HAIR,…I meant.

I guess Brown thought he was on MSNBC.

Alex you lied!
There wasn’t any Gargamel in that clip! Give me my 56 seconds back!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilyeGG2JKLc

What strikes me is that Sherrod doesn’t seem to have a grasp on what role unions played in helping Hitler to power.

Weimar Germany was in turmoil and part of that turmoil came from the Stalinist backed and supported unions.

Both the Nazis and the Communists were subversive elements trying to overthrow the fledging Weimar democracy. Hitler.won. We know the horrors of that victory but can we be sure that a Stalinist victory would have been better. After all, Stalin is the only man responsible for more deaths than Hitler, with the possible exception of Mao Tse Tung, another Communist.

Considering what was going on in the USSR at that time thru the demise of the Stalinist regimes I fail to see any legitimate connection with Unions as being the salvation of mankind.

Grammie said:
What strikes me is that Sherrod doesn’t seem to have a grasp on what role unions played in helping Hitler to power.

Weimar Germany was in turmoil and part of that turmoil came from the Stalinist backed and supported unions.

Both the Nazis and the Communists were subversive elements trying to overthrow the fledging Weimar democracy. Hitler.won. We know the horrors of that victory but can we be sure that a Stalinist victory would have been better. After all, Stalin is the only man responsible for more deaths than Hitler, with the possible exception of Mao Tse Tung, another Communist.

Considering what was going on in the USSR at that time thru the demise of the Stalinist regimes I fail to see any legitimate connection with Unions as being the salvation of mankind.

Yeah and don’t forget that Hitler used his Brownshirts to storm government buildings and intimidate elected officials the exact same way the unions and far-leftists are now doing in Madison on behalf of Obama..

Nazi talkers…………get some new material……………Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Chris Matthews is correct…..he understands it’s more effective to call an opponent a car bomber….

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-newt-gingrich-looks-like-a-car-bomber-and-loves-torturing/

Chris Matthews actually making sense? I guess he took Huckabee’s advice and got back on his meds.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/mike-huckabee-to-chris-matthews-youre-out-of-control-youre-off-your-meds/

Like all other things, the demand that Hitler never be mentioned has gone too far.

It is wrong to compare a present day American politician to Hitler specifically, but to list the most powerful (and terrible) dictators of modern history and not mention Hitler would be way too much political correctness. We must not try to erase Hitler from history entirely.

“Never, ever, ever talk about him again!” Really? Isn’t that the same as denying the holocaust by erasing it from history?

As for the unions having a connection with either Hitler or Stalin, that connection is weak at best, and far less significant than the fact that both Hitler and Stalin banned unions as a potential threat to them after they got power.

Final point: As a cynical liberal, I think Chris Mathews is the worst possible example of liberalism. He is so egotistical that he won’t let anybody else get a word in edgewise, even if they are trying to agree with him. He is no better than Rush Limbaugh in personality and intensity of misguided passion.

Gotta add a little. Hitler never won an election. He never had even 30% support of the population when it was “legal” to take a poll by holding elections. Also, the communists were never in the majority in Russia, and Lenin told people not to give power to Stalin! Of course Stalin was able to hide that from the Russian populous, and he had Lenin’s chosen successor driven out of Russia and murdered in Mexico.

If there is a lesson to be learned from this, it is that it should be just as wrong to mention Stalin, but that hasn’t become popular yet.

And, I would still fire Chris Matthews if I could.

Geroge L. Actually the NSDAP had 39% of the vote in 1932. Hitler did outlaw labor unions as well as “freethinkers” ( atheists organizations) and socialist political parties and communist political parties the SPD and the KPD. The reason why the NSDAP won in 1932 was because of the parlimentary system they had under the Weimar republic. Multiple parties is very weak system.

The tacitcs of the recent TEA party governors and Republican legislators ARE very similar to those of the NSDAP in the 1920′s and 30′s. I say if the Shoe fits, wear it.

To Heidi, I stand corrected. 39%. I take it you agree with me that unions are not necessarily evil and do not always lead to dictatorships.
To all, I reiterate that there is a difference between mentioning Hitler, Stalin, and/or others as example of evil and directly stating that an individual is “Just like Hitler.”
I know that Hitler’s name in particular has been way overused lately. I do not condone using it lightly or often.
I only say that banning them with “never, ever, ever” is just as wrong.
All Matthews had to say was “Man, that is way overused.”

You know what’s worse than Hitler references? Concern trolls who clutch the pearls and get the vapors every time his name is mentioned. If you don’t want to be likened to Adolf Hitler then don’t act like him, whether it’s in big matters (genocide, wars of aggression, war crimes, torture) or smaller ones (union busting, race-baiting, liking Carl Orff’s music). If the jackboot fits, wear it.

I think Mouthewes was angry with Brown for stealing his lines.

Just another sad example of partisan rancor. Even when Chris Matthews does something fair and balanced, the trolls ignore it and slam him.

I recently praised BillO for his charity work with Obama, offering to pay the Snyder family’s legal costs AND his calling out Rumsfeld for not being honest with the American people.

It doesn’t change the fact that Bill can be arrogant, rude and make up facts as he goes (as commented on by Megyn Kelly recently), but it shows he, like almost every human being has a combination of good and bad in his character.

If we as a people could get away from this lunacy of seeing everything in black and white, us versus them, projecting all our shadow qualities on the other guy, maybe we could move forward as a country.

Never mention Hitler? Was the phrase “Always forget” or “Never forget”?

People mention Hitler because the specter of that time still hangs over us like an unresolved riddle. We don’t quite know what caused it, and therefor worry that we are incapable of preventing it from happening again. I think it’s time we looked it square in the face rather than shut our eyes and mouths.

All the pearl-clutching about the use of Hitler’s name and any mention of the Nazis is not only smarmy, it’s a dishonest way of ducking the issue: namely, is it true?

Is it true that Adolf Hitler eradicated unions in the Third Reich? Yes it is. Is it true that communist countries turned unions into arms of the state where the government ran them? Yes it is. Is it true that Chris Matthews is an ignorant gasbag who gets the vapors over the mention of Hitler because he’s too goddamned stupid to discuss the substance of any issue? Yes it is!

Mark Stouffer said:
Never mention Hitler? Was the phrase “Always forget” or “Never forget”?

What’s truly funny is how all the people getting their panties in a bunch over the mention of Hitler or the Nazis are smugly stupid hacks who are a generation or two removed from World War Two. People who were alive during the war and remember it have no qualms about bringing up the Nazis:

LINK

Thanks to posters who brought a historical perspective to the discussion. Too bad our Bush-bashed educational system no longer seems interested in offering such perspectives to our schoolkids. They’re too busy learning “creationism.”

“If the jackboot fits, wear it.”

They seem to fit quite well on Gov. Wanker’s Palace Guard. Seig Heel!

Okay, maybe THAT was a little over-the-top. Maybe.

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