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Democratic Rep. Cleaver: Debt Deal Is ‘A Satan Sandwich’ Antithetical To Religion

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Ladies and gentleman of Congress start your engines, because the clock is ticking and there isn’t much time to waste for anyone to voice their opposition to the tentative debt deal announced last night by President Obama. Democratic Congressman, chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus and United Methodist minister, Emanuel Cleaver, appeared on MSNBC last night and vented his strong disapproval of what he sees, concluding “if I were a Republican, this is a night to party.”

Cleaver also described for MSNBC host Chris Jansing just how much he truly despised this “deal”:

“If you lift the bun, what you see is antithetical to everything the great religions of the world teach. Which is take care of the poor, take of the aged. . . . I am concerned about this because we don’t know the details. And until we see the details, we’re going to be extremely non-committed, but on the surface it looks like a Satan sandwich.”

Besides putting a colorful description on the table, Cleaver highlights a potentially significant problem for Obama. Might liberal idealists now be the ones resistant to saying “yes” to compromise?

Watch the clip from MSNBC below:

(h/t Politico)

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  • Anonymous

    Ah yes, the Satan Sandwich.  

    ‘Forged in darkness from wheat harvested in hell’s half acre. Baked by Beelzebub. Slathered with mayonnaise beaten from the evil eggs of dark chicken force-fed to dogs by the hands of a one eyed mad man. Cheese boiled from the rancid teat of fanged cow. Layered with 666 separate meats from an animal, which has maggots for blood.’

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a big fan of this deal but I think it’s a little extreme to call it a Satan sandwich.

    More like a shit taco.

  • Latin2

    Oh-oh someone is worried that the “Obama money” might not flow.

  • Latin2

    I wonder if the good Reverend Cleaver preached this in his church yesterday?

    Watch out for that SATAN SANDWICH.

  • Moderate

    The internet is great, you can learn something new, even on a blog. To get more than 5 seconds in the media, you must be an extremist.

  • Anonymous

    I believe they are the evil ‘deviled’ eggs of dark chicken force-fed to dogs……

  • Anonymous

    More like a Godless Grinder from Lucifer’s Lunchbox with a thermos full of Beelzebub’s Brew and a Mephistopheles Moon Pie for dessert .

  • Hugo Daun

    MMMMMMMMMMMMM….SATAN!

  • Anonymous

    This is just more political drama. Cleaver is right about one thing, we don’t know how bad this will all look in the end. However, the Republicans have no cause to “party” since they compromised out meaningful cuts and substantial fiscal responsibility. This is a continuation of the debt debacle more than a debt deal.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Listen to Mr Cleaver closely in the video clip, Mr Cleaver wanted a balanced deal that would have preserved all the entitlements, make no cuts. Mr Cleaver would have made no spending cuts, instead made a balanced approach to lower debt by raising taxes alone. Mr Cleaver is an idiot, he does not understand that the main problem is exploding expenditures.
    Obama is perhaps the most liberal president on par with Johnson and FDR. He was able to pass the Obamacare, a dream of progressives since Truman. Obama is also pragmatic like Clinton in making compromises with conservatives so he can govern.
    My only problem with the compromises is what happened in 1982 and 1990, these two big compromises included cuts in the spendings that never materialized.  

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t it amazing that a lib is now talking about religion? Oh, just stuff it!

    And , when did they elect Richard Pryor to Congress? I thought he died years ago.

    BTW, the CBC is run by Satan.

  • Republicans are Liars

    YOu’ll see what compromise is all about when we vote your Republican a-holes out of office in 2012. You are not going to balance the budget on the backs of the old and middle class. What do you want? Do you want to USA to become like India?

  • Anonymous

    Either way, the bacon is extra.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Only liberal progressives like to profile the conservatives on the basis of their color religion and national origin, like you just did. Sir! you are the racist. I am proud citizen of USA. Thanks for reminding me of my Indian roots. I am not ashamed of my roots like progressives are ashamed of Obama’s Kenya and muslim roots. This mentality served you well in 2010 elections, it will serve you well in 2012.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Damn this is all making me hungry, how much extra for the bacon?

  • Anonymous

    You sound like a 3 year old child. “You just wait!” Just wait!”

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    True enough, but once the food police start taxing calories, the price of the cheese boiled from the rancid teat of fanged cow will skyrocket.

  • Anonymous

    You are right about Cleaver being and idiot, I just didn’t want to beat that dead horse. He says these nonsensical things so often, I consider it a given.

  • Anonymous

    I could really go for a Satan sandwich about right now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_eYnp6IwSQ

  • Anonymous

    I know you didn’t consciously make an ATHF ref, but you made me think of the Broodwich episode.

  • ImNotBlue

    ‘I tasted mustard.’

  • Republicans are Liars

    Just answer the question of why do you hate the old and middle class. Those are the policies you are defending that want to put this debt crisis on their backs. Just tell me why? BTW… I usually use Mexico as a great example of a country with no middle class but I thought you might give a little more introspection if I mentioned India. There is no disparaging Indian people in ANYTHING I said. But don’t dwell on this, just answer the question, “Why do you want to putthe burden on the weakest people in our society to draw down the debt?”

  • Anonymous

    Wait, the government is supporting the middle class? When did that happen? Where do I go to get mine?

  • Republicans are Liars

    Oh we don’t have to wait… Like throwing Scott Walker out of office in Wisconsin and those other idiot Republicans in their state legislature. It’s going to happen very quickly in a lot of different ways. You right wingers on this board are so stupid you don’t even know you are fighting against your own self interest. It is really funny if it wasn’t so pathetic. Lose your house, your insurance, your pension – this is what your are defending – policies that will make you more vulnerable. You people are idiots or masochists.  

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Any time a demarodent speaks on religion, God
    or morals just know he is showing Antithetical behavior.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you just hate it when fundamentalist religious nuts try to shove their religion down everyone’s throat. Can’t people realize that this is a secular nation and that the Bible mostly tells individuals how to live their lives and doesn’t demand one particular governmental policy?

    (Boy, that was fun to say!)

  • Anonymous

    Rev. Emanuel ‘Beaver’ Cleaver what happened to your rock solid stance for the separation of church and state…you and your good buddy Jeremiah Wright are hypocrites and everybody knows it.  Oh, BTW, you lost big time so it’s not surprising that you’d play the Satan Sandwich race card…you’re so predictable…lol…and soft headed…lol.

  • Anonymous

    Democratic Rep. Cleaver: Debt Deal Is ‘A Satan Sandwich’ 

    Tastes like pulled pork to me sparky…mmm…mmm…mmm…good.

  • Anonymous

    You might have seen a stunning demonstration of political condescension on the health care front. In remarks at the 2010 Legislative Conference for the National Association of Counties, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

    Satan Sandwich, uuhhmmm, reverend? Look how horrible this last Satan Sandwich was. Fog and controversy. A liberal politicians best technique…

  • Anonymous

    Anyone want to know how such an unbiased, non-hate-filled poster declaring that republicans are liars, while democrats must be truth telling in every venture, unless you get confused by what the meaning of the word “is” actually IS…

    Define the middle class so we can all be on the same page. Middle class sucks. Lower class really sucks. First and Upper class rules. Strive for it. And stop Mr Truth Teller, attacking posters with your uninformed personal attacks on anyone here that you disagree with. Your liberal racist tendencies show, and they speak volumes about you.

  • Anonymous

    Masochists? Good point…

    http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/08/23/poorest-us-cities-are-democrat-controlled/

    You are the only brilliant poster to this board.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Wrangle and I quote, “What would Jesus do?” when railing against the TEA Party cutting spending!

    Hey Wrangle… Abortion. WWJD? Not paying your taxes? WWJD?

  • Republicans are Liars

    Some reason I couldn’t reply to the Jughead below… ( I know it’s jarhead for Marines but in this case the shoe fits better with Jughead.) this is really directed to USMC. I have read your posts on other threads and you are the most racists, bigoted white extremists I have ever read on these threads. Rest assured it is a shame we tax payers have to pay your salary. I think we should reduce the budget starting with your salary.

  • Republicans are Liars

    A real smart statement from a guy who has the VA to fall back on for healthcare. I guess socialized medicine is only good for a certain group of people. Again your faulty logic shines right through.

  • Anonymous

    “GOD DAMN AMERICA! It’s in the Bible!!” Right there between Satan Sandwich and “America’s chickens are coming home… to roooosse!”

    What’s up with these “religious”, bigoted, zealots anyway? How do they get away with this? Oh yeah, liberal democrat CBC.

  • ImNotBlue

    ‘There are simply no swine evil enough to sacrifice upon the bed of evil… and lettuce… bed of evil and lettuce.’

  • ImNotBlue

    So did Thelonious…

    Excellent reference!

  • ImNotBlue

    Great point… if some people get something, then EVERYONE should get it.  Yes, that is how the world works.

  • Anonymous

    When you have to perform a service to qualify for it, it isn’t socialized. Your facts are faulty.

  • Anonymous

    Satan? I’m not surprised befcause these leftists know Satan, their patron saint:Saul Alinsky dedicated Obama’s bible -Rules for Radicals to Lucifer.

    I think they get green stamps or something for every baby killed, marriage broken, porno movie made, teen pregnancy, welfare addiction, and church converted from saving souls to secular social justice for Caesar and the great god-state.

    Satan and the left are well related -which is why the left spends all its efforts trying to remove God from the public view.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    I am glad you were not being a racist. If you want to quote India, first you must learn about India. After independence India economy model was based on five priciples of socialism ‘Panchsheel’, called ‘socialistic pattern’ by Nehru. India wanted to be a ‘democratic-USSR’. The results: India could not defend its borders against China, for food it had to depend on hand-outs by USA called PL480 (wheat giveaway at subsidized by US taxpayers). I am giving you buzzwords so you can Google. Finally, India decided to abandon the ‘socialist pattern’ and follow ‘free economy’ model of another democarcy USA. The results speak for themselves: China and India have become thriving economies, India has become a nuclear power and need not be threatened by its neighbors. Instead of depending on hand-outs, it has become a leading exporter of food. In essence, India has becoming a thriving economy (#5 world-wide) following the conservative principles of free-economy in USA, while USA is trying to make fundamental-transformation by redistributing wealth.
    By the way, I am not a Republican, I am a conservative-independent.
    I will discuss Walker next.
    Walker is right, ‘public-employee-unions’ have selfishly manipulated the political system to extract dues and enrich themselves. Their agenda is at cross-purpose to public interest. However, Walker fumbled the fix and went too far. Even if Walker is reacalled, at least he has brought the issue to the public forefront. As far as the approval ratings go, they are low for both Obama and Walker.

  • Harry Flashman

    Dear Liberal Progressives,

    U mad?

    Just wondering. It wasn’t too long ago you were sneering at us and calling us some sort of far right lunatic fringe group with no political stroke or future. Now you’re saying this debt ceiling compromise was our doing and that everyone involved is kow-towing to us.

    We’ve gone from insignificant punch lines to Satan.

    Just wondering if you were mad.

    Hugs and Kisses,

    The Tea Party

  • GoNavy

    No faulty logic here. Jammed, bribed and cajoled is how healthcare was passed.  Unconstitutional is the best you can say about it.

  • GoNavy

    No faulty logic here. Jammed, bribed and cajoled is how healthcare was passed.  Unconstitutional is the best you can say about it.

  • Anonymous

    Just what we need  -  more religion.  Praise Geesussah!

  • Anonymous

    That’s right.  Geesussah died to erase your sins  -  not your brains!

  • Arkansas Steve

    Good post Harry.

    The progressive caucus & progressive black caucus must be the stupidest people in Washington.
    They are fighting to minimize any cuts, and if they get their way, it will INCREASE the chances of reducing the credit rating of the US.
    When that happens, people who OWE money (not me) will be the big losers.  People who have SAVED money (me) will get higher interest rates.
    The stupidity (sorry,I just can’t find a better word) of the progressives can only be explained by their personal greed and desire to hold onto their political power  Truly disgusting & hypocritical people.

  • Rob

    The Tea Party, 
    We’re not mad, we’re just… disappointed. Time after time bash our social programs, and then use them. We still maintain many of you are fear-mongering bigots, and epitomize ignorance and sensationalism.

    We miss your father’s GOP. They had so much professionalism and were a lot more classy. 

    You guys are just… not.

    Respectfully your fellow Americans,

    Liberals

  • Anonymous

    “ I am concerned about this because we don’t know the details. And until we see the details, we’re going to be extremely non-committed, but on the surface it looks like a Satan sandwich.”
    So you don’t know what’s in it, you are extremely non-committed – that about sums up the Democrats policy. Pelosi – “We have to pass it before we know what’s in it”.  Alcee hastings- “We make up the rules as we go along” 

    Throwing in the “anti-ethical to everything the great religions of the world teach” is the icing on the cake – since when is it the governments job to take up the cause/legislate for religion?  

  • Anonymous

    Satan gave me a sandwich and it made me really sick,
    The chicken was all raw and the grease was mighty thick.

  • Anonymous

    Check my screen name. I’m still sneering. :-) By the way, I don’t like the fact that a Baptist minister is in either party, and I know that Huckabee is one who takes the opposite side to whatever Cleaver says.

    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken

    That is my attitude toward the TEA party. You have a solution that does not consider the complexities of life and government. A re-look at everything a government does is appropriate. You do have one thing right. Many “socialist” ideas and programs were promoted and even put into effect by what you guys call RINOs. Bush was the ultimate RINO..

  • Anonymous

    Remind me. Who was that right wing preacher who said hurricane Katrina was God’s judgment on us?

  • dave

    Yes because the “great religions” do such a wonderful job when they are in power (Dark Ages, Middle-East today, witch hunts, inquisitions, holy wars, crusades/jihads). Yes, their track record is splendid. 

  • dave

    Honestly, did he spend his summers at Jonestown sleepaway camp?

  • Anonymous

    “It’s the broodwich Shake, you’ve been chosen.” Im so ashamed that this guy is from my home state. I think Representative Cleaver needs that free brain surgery that comes with the sandwich.

  • Harry Flashman

    Menken also said:

    “The best way to negotiate with an adversary is with your knee on his chest and your knife at his throat.”

    Heh.

  • Hagen619dj

    Oh Bush this, Bush that!  Don’t you ever live in the present. Your wonderful pres has put us into a deep hole. It only took him 2 years to do it.  Can’t you see he is out to distroy America as we know it. All you can do is complain about Bush and the Tea Party.  So sad you can’t figure out what is happening in this world. Your will to be right is so pathetic. Knocking religion isn’t necessary either. We all believe in something. That’s the way of the world. One religion isn’t any better than the other. Thank God we have religion.  If we didn’t there wouldn’t be punishments for murders, rapists,thieves etc. etc. but then if your a Devils Spawn….it shows where your coming from too. Sorry there is no help for you.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! You are a serious person!
    Chill a little, please.
    I chose this screen name because someone suggested that guys like you would consider me a devil’s spawn, and you just proved it.
    Am I blaming Bush for everything? Well, I’m not saying he is the saint you seem to think he is. He was a RINO, and I challenge anyone to deny it with facts. Remember his vice president famously said “Deficits don’t matter,” and Bush didn’t budget for the wars or social programs that he proposed.
    The current situation IS a result of that and reduced taxes that Republicans still refuse to consider.

    Did Democrats not yet get a budget through after more than 800 days? Blame Republicans who made it impossible by blocking essential revenue increases.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s another one. “In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.”
    H. L. Mencken

  • Anonymous

    All hyperbole aside, yes there are crazy people on the left as well as the right.

  • RDD
  • RDD

    http://youtu.be/ZvUIsbksNEo
    MSM: ‘Satan Sandwich’ v. Real Econ.
    The media has been all over the “sugar-coated Satan Sandwich”. Who
    cares!? What they should be talking about instead of sandwiches and
    Grover Norquist tweets, is the way the debt deal will change America.
    We’ll take a look and then tell you about a new poll from the Hill that
    finds one third of likely voters think America’s best days are over.

  • Republicans are Liars

    Can’t wait for the day you lose your house when you or a family member has a catastrophic illness or someone in your family can’t get insurance for a pre-exsisting condition. That is the only way you will ever see the light of day for what is trying to be done here for lower middle class people like yourself. Wake TF up.  Oh wait… that won’t happen to you for you already have VA socialized medicien. Well maybe it will happen to a friend of yours

  • Republicans are Liars

    Wrong again… this is socialized medicine. It’s governement provided healthcare. I guess you just like seeing 44k people die every year for because they do not have insurance.

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