First they did it for money not for education or the children.

Pull a Republican move talk about everything else but the questions at hand.You know the old righties playbook of SPIN,SPIN,SPIN.

Nice job Megyn! And a great question! Seriously. She cornered the union weasel and did so professionally and appropriately.

Now ask the governor if his “no compromise” stance is really governance.

BlueBunny said:
Pull a Republican move talk about everything else but the questions at hand.You know the old righties playbook of SPIN,SPIN,SPIN.

Both sides spin, lie and deflect. It is a non-partisan reality.

BlueBunny said:
Pull a Republican move talk about everything else but the questions at hand.You know the old righties playbook of SPIN,SPIN,SPIN.

What spin? She asked a question which is her job and he refuses to answer and she asked it again. How is that spin?

It’s odd. Me-Gyn often has to remind her guests who is the anchor….

I wonder if Fox will ask Sarah Palin about all the phony Letters To The Editor she wrote in support of her candidacy for Alaskan Governor.

I know how you teabloggers hate lying so much..

He should have manned up and condemned the action; that he diidn’t tells me he doesn’t care about the fraud.

Wow, this guy is a moron. I feel sorry for the teachers, in the sense that this guy represents them. That being said, If I were a parent in WI, with a child in public school, I would quickly pull them out. This whole charade has really shown us what type of people the WI school districts employs. These people are committing fraud, they are lying and not representing their schools in a respectable manner. Walker wants to have a vote and the people who are elected to vote on these things are hiding. How is that courageous? If the vote isn’t what the union thugs like….tough. That is democracy.

When you cast your vote in November 2012 ask yourself the following:

Do I want to elect a representative that will do what I want, or do I want to elect a representative that will do what union bo$$e$ tell them to do?

Keeva said:
Both sides spin, lie and deflect. It is a non-partisan reality.

So true but this time the spin and deflection is being done by the union leader.

The union goombas are to powerfull, they need to be knocked down a notch.

BFD said:
I wonder if Fox will ask Sarah Palin about all the phony Letters To The Editor she wrote in support of her candidacy for Alaskan Governor.

I know how you teabloggers hate lying so much..

Wow, you moveon/kos readers really are brainwashed.

RRKING recalls . I had a doctour once write me a note for a pound of leeches . I had the prescription filled at the chemist . Of course , this was a few years back .

Who was that other person that was known for busting unions?

Damn that union thug looks like he knows the end is near for him and his gang. You know he can’t stand little old megyn putting him in his place.

espo222…….I think it might be you that is brainwashed.

A survey of American voters by World Public Opinion shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources. One of the most interesting questions was about President Obama’s birthplace. 63 percent of Fox viewers believe Obama was not born in the US (or that it is unclear). In 2003 a similar study about the Iraq war showed that Fox viewers were once again less knowledgeable on the subject than average. Let the flame war begin!

espo222 said:
Wow, you moveon/kos readers really are brainwashed.

McCain too…

“Margriet Oostveen is a freelance journalist who went undercover as a volunteer in the McCain campaign. They hired her to ghost write letters posing as McCain supporters.”

Bunch of frauds and liars, huh?

First they’ll take the Unions out, next comes Medicare, then Medicaid, then Social Security.

All the bankers get bailed out and everyone else gets nothing.

God bless America!

You old farts sure are leaving your grandkids with something to look forward to, eh?

TrollJuice said:
Who was that other person that was known for busting unions?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Hmmmmm……I wonder who it was?

The period from 1933 to around 1937 was characterized by the systematic elimination of non-Nazi organizations that could potentially influence people, such as trade unions and political parties.

SpineCrusher said:
You old farts sure are leaving your grandkids with something to look forward to, eh?

Other than an unsustainable mountain of debt? Yeah.

This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud. First, when fox showed those 2 “teachers” with the doctors notes, they didn’t show the signatures. They were blured out. Why? Also, why didn’t these 2 women tell us the names of these 3 doctors? And why didn’t they take the fox reporter to the street corner where they claimed these doctors were? Finally, if no teacher has presented these phony notes to the school, where is the fraud? Now, aren’t you curious as to why this story wasn’t widely reported? It’s because it’s more Breitbart bullshit and the networks weren’t about to get burned again. See for yourselves!

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/wisconsin-protesters-breitbarted-over-bogus

When the newly elected Reichstag first convened on March 23, 1933, (not including the Communist delegates, since their party had already been banned by that time) it passed the Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz), transferring all legislative powers to the Nazi government and, in effect, abolishing the remainder of the Weimar constitution as a whole. Soon afterwards the government banned the Social Democratic party, which had voted against the Act, while the other parties chose to dissolve themselves to avoid arrests and concentration camp imprisonment.

TrollJuice said:
espo222…….I think it might be you that is brainwashed.

A survey of American voters by World Public Opinion shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources.

No, it’s you. You’ll eat any old bullshit, as long as it’s spoon fed to you. That’s because you’re an unthinking chump.

Watch what you wish for righties! You may get your wish.

roxsteady said:
This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud.

Wrong again, sucker. You’re such a brainwashed chump.

This guy didn’t deviate from his talking points once!

BEWARE!

Th Left Media is deliberately trying to conflate PUBLIC unions with ALL Unions; much the same way they DELIBERATELY conflate Immigration with ILLEGAL Immigration!

Call Them On It!

Hey Mike, how does it feel to get “schooled” by a pregnant lady?!

In the same sentence Megyn said “alot of Fox viewers are on your side, they are in unions” and then asked “do you condone lying”

You can’t make this stuff up, Fox News viewers fall for it Tee Hee.

She should stick to posing half nekkid. Fox is where the truth goes to die.

Lee Harvey said:
She should stick to posing half nekkid. Fox is where the truth goes to die.

Lee Harvey you are a mad man!

Great job again, Fox.

Getting to the bottom of these doctors note is really what’s most important about this story.

Get rid these worthless leeches and start hiring people that want to work for less, trust me the quality won’t be any worse. There are plenty of people that will work without a need to be part of the union racket. They have finally drained the well dry and who do they turn to, the very people they’ve been mooching off of for years. They should start training and hiring immediatly and kick the spoiled gov. workers to the curb. If they go on unemployment, make them work 25-30 hours a week for it helping their local government.

He don’t answer questions very well, do he? No one is surprised by this interview. We all know what the substance of the issue is: It basically is “we have more people standing out protesting than you do so we should win.” Tommy Christopher has been battling out this most cogent point elsewhere. Elections have consequences and RIGHT THINKING is the consequence of the last one, to the left’s dismay. The floudering responses of the Union leader just confirms it.

Pablo said:
Other than an unsustainable mountain of debt? Yeah.

like what?

Name in what way, any way, that you’re leaving a better future for your grandkids?

Remove Unions, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid from your equation. What security is left? You had it all your life and now you want to take it away from future generations?

…and you wonder why the youth hate conservatives.

bunch of flag wavers on obesity scooters, paid for by Medicare…pathetic

TrollJuice said:
Watch what you wish for righties! You may get your wish.

I wish liberals would move to China.

ndanielson said:
I wish liberals would move to China.

Just think….then liberals would own America….

You really have to watch what you wish for.

TrollJuice said:
espo222…….I think it might be you that is brainwashed.

A survey of American voters by World Public Opinion shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources. One of the most interesting questions was about President Obama’s birthplace. 63 percent of Fox viewers believe Obama was not born in the US (or that it is unclear). In 2003 a similar study about the Iraq war showed that Fox viewers were once again less knowledgeable on the subject than average. Let the flame war begin!

What poll was that? lol. I think that the president, himself, is unclear about where he was born, so it Chris Matthews and everyone who hasn’t seen his birth certificate. I’m not a birther, but just show the birth certificate.

SpineCrusher said:
You old farts sure are leaving your grandkids with something to look forward to, eh?

Only a future free from leftist economic oppression.

The Tea Weasel® said:
It’s odd. Me-Gyn often has to remind her guests who is the anchor….

Why do progressives hate women so much?

Color Me mad said:
In the same sentence Megyn said “alot of Fox viewers are on your side, they are in unions” and then asked “do you condone lying” You can’t make this stuff up, Fox News viewers fall for it Tee Hee.

Do you ever make since? Can’t make it up so it is true so the Fox News viewers are falling for the truth? The Union thug never denied that the behavior was happening as you seem to be and he refused to say he did not condone the illegal behavior. What exactly are Fox News Viewers falling for that is not the truth here?

TeaPartyPatriot said:
When you cast your vote in November 2012 ask yourself the following:

Do I want to elect a representative that will do what I want,

I am still trying to find one that does that. They promise me the moon, the stars, a tax cut, deficit reduction and a balanced budget. I get some guy who goes on corporate junkets to play golf, goes to foreign lands on fact finding tours, eats free at lobbyists “get togethers” spends money like its my gift to him and gives rich people tax breaks. Then they waste the time they spend on the legislative floor with symbolic votes that mean nothing, and finding unique ways to spend money that makes it look like they are not spending money. If they are not doing that then they are finding ways to make the other side of the aisle look bad. Then its off to their home districts to nosh with people who are in total agreement with them and ignore the rest of the electorate.
And thats just the first termers….

For better or for worse, I’m the anchor and you’re the guest. So I’ll come up with the questions and you can answer them or not.”

Typical lib union thug- won’t answer the question-This goon even looks like Hoffa.

SpineCrusher said:
bunch of flag wavers on obesity scooters, paid for by Medicare…pathetic

Yes, medicare is that bank full of liberal pixie dust. That is where teacher’s salaries come from, too.

Badly Spliced DNA said:
Why do progressives hate women so much?

Non sequitur?

I have seen at least three clips where she tells her guest “I am the interviewer here”. Try to stay on topic Geno.

Langyel told Kelly that “whatever happened there, I didn’t see it. I don’t know what it is”

Thug, SHE told ya what happened.

Sprocket said:
I have seen at least three clips where she tells her guest “I am the interviewer here”.

And? And?

She is, son.

Sprocket said:
I am still trying to find one that does that. They promise me the moon, the stars, a tax cut, deficit reduction and a balanced budget. I get some guy who goes on corporate junkets to play golf, goes to foreign lands on fact finding tours, eats free at lobbyists “get togethers” spends money like its my gift to him and gives rich people tax breaks. Then they waste the time they spend on the legislative floor with symbolic votes that mean nothing, and finding unique ways to spend money that makes it look like they are not spending money. If they are not doing that then they are finding ways to make the other side of the aisle look bad. Then its off to their home districts to nosh with people who are in total agreement with them and ignore the rest of the electorate.
And thats just the first termers….

So you bought all the pixie dust lies and bought into Barack Hussein 0bama, hook…line…and sinker, to make your dreams come true. What a fairy tale! Where do TrollJuice and SpineCrusher sign up???

roxsteady said:
It’s because it’s more Breitbart bullshit and the networks weren’t about to get burned again. See for yourselves!

Oh no, you crawled out from under your rock again. It was so pleasant without you. I see you don’t read the news, the doctors have been identified and the U. of W. is investigating their actions.
When are you going to learn not to pay attention to your pals on the loony blogs and phony news networks?

Dodge and weave is a liberal art form.

The Governor needs to have this public union de-certified after the fraud and lies perpetrated by the very people who teach children in WI. Annual cost per pupil in WI exceeds $10,000 per pupil. Their education dollars would buy so much more education at private schools.

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roxsteady said:
This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud.

Wrong again, sucker. You’re such a brainwashed chump.
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A Foxbot calling someone else “brainwashed”…….You got love the down troddin ignorant like Pablo.

TrollJuice said:
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roxsteady said:
This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud.

Wrong again, sucker. You’re such a brainwashed chump.
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A Foxbot calling someone else “brainwashed”…….You got love the down troddin ignorant like Pablo.

And just for giggles, what if it is true about the doctors perpetrating fraud against the taxpayers? Just curious.

Here is what those teachers have given the state of Wisconsin.

Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest Per Pupil Spending in Midwest
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
By Terence P. Jeffrey

CNSNews.com) – Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest.
In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available [2]—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.”

Well let’s say of the two choices, I chose the lesser of two weevils. However, in retrospect, seeing Ms Palin’s highschool pettiness and McCain’s inability to chose a coherent position, I think the Obama weevil is far and away the better choice. Fairy tale or not, with or without the pixie dust garnish, Obama is the reality we have for the next 6 years, unless a star arrives in the eastern sky and shines down on the next GOP messiah. Now maybe you thought McCain was the bees knees, and Palin makes you feel all tingly, and if so, I respect your choice. Unfortunately you are in the minority for now, so you get to winge and complain for 6 more years, as is your right.

But as to my quote and your response, I fail to see the connection. Or are you just bored and trying to get someone to chat with you?

The morons are running from Indiana too. These idiots are hilarious. Now they have to avoid states with Republican governors or they will be arrested and brought back? Is that right? Bawhahahahaha! Oh please keep this up, keep making asses of yourselves, you might outdo Obama. Typical liberal can’t argue their point so they run……….TO ANOTHER STATE!!!!! At some point there will be maybe 10-15 states where the dems have fled. I’m picturing them all hiding out in some boarded up compound like David Koresh, and I think we know how that story ended.

TrollJuice said:

roxsteady said:
This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud.

LOL So it’s a fraud, son?

man o man are you an ignoramus.

Troll and rox: I never once heard the Head Union Thug deny it happened. Don’t you think He would have if it had been made up? Writing those doctors notes constitutes legal fraud and is a criminal offense. They also have the names of some of the doctors and are investigating. I’ll bet not too many of the teachers who got the notes plan to present them now.

TfT said:
He should have manned up and condemned the action; that he diidn’t tells me he doesn’t care about the fraud.

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Or possibly a player in it?

Ajolily said:
Troll and rox: I never once heard the Head Union Thug deny it happened. Don’t you think He would have if it had been made up? Writing those doctors notes constitutes legal fraud and is a criminal offense. They also have the names of some of the doctors and are investigating. I’ll bet not too many of the teachers who got the notes plan to present them now.

Not being a lawyer, and not even playing one on TV, or not even having stayed at a Holiday Inn Express ever, I may be wrong, but doctor-patient privilege may trump any investigation. What a doc determines between himself and his patient is based on his best estimate. Unless of course, one of the notes results in a malpractice lawsuit, which is kinda doubtful. Now they could waste a lot of time and money pursuing some halfassed legal remedy, but I believe the courts would send them packing.

Sprocket said:
Now they could waste a lot of time and money pursuing some halfassed legal remedy, but I believe the courts would send them packing.

Don’t quit your day job. Take the fries out now the buzzer went off.

Unless and until Megyn apologizes to the nation for saying no one on F*x ever made comparisons to nazies, followed by her conversation with Burnout Goldberg, (Thank you, Mr. Stewart) , she has no place questioning anyone. Megyn, dear, tapes are such unfortunate things. Just ask Dick Nixon when you get to where he most surely resides now.

Grammie said:
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Or possibly a player in it?

You slander as easily as some people use a paper clip.

gordonbloyershow said:
Sprocket said:
Now they could waste a lot of time and money pursuing some halfassed legal remedy, but I believe the courts would send them packing.

Don’t quit your day job. Take the fries out now the buzzer went off.

That’s right Sprocket. Basil, I mean Gordo, spends much of his life in Court, and, despite the orange prison jumpsuit he’s wearing, he’s never lost a case.

Joseph Glackin said:
Unless and until Megyn apologizes to the nation for saying no one on F*x ever made comparisons to nazies,…., she has no place questioning anyone

She never said that child.

She responded to a dim-witted Dim strategist who said, “Every night” on FOX language like this is used. She said she watched FOX every night and that was not true.

Now if YOU can provide the links for the use by FOX of such language EVERY NIGHT, please do so, son.

Otherwise, stop lying on the internet.

Sprocket said:
I may be wrong, but doctor-patient privilege may trump any investigation.

You are wrong! No one would be asking for the patient’s name nor condition. They would ask the doc if the doc had ever examined the person in question and to explain why they are on video writing excuses for people who were not sick.

The Real Royal King said:
That’s right Sprocket. Basil, I mean Gordo, spends much of his life in Court, and, despite the orange prison jumpsuit he’s wearing, he’s never lost a case.

So all day here, you really try to prove that you know how to use a paper clip? You do realize that most of us will never believe that, don’t you?

“I will worry about the childern when they can vote in UNION elections.”

Albert Shanker- president of the American Federation of Teachers 1964 to 1984.

gordonbloyershow said:
Take the fries out now the buzzer went off.

And for gods sake bring those sweet, golden brown lightly salted vessels of grease and goodness to me! Daddy wants them to get in his tummy, now! If only I could sleep in a bed of deep fried delicacies and donuts…

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t quit your day job. Take the fries out now the buzzer went off.

Gordo, your six biggie size orders of fries are ready. Are you going to stand there and eat them, or would you like to have a seat? Sir….Sir! I really think you need to sit in a booth. Our chairs only fit a normal human being and you are definitely….supersized.

Megyn said no one EVER said anything like that to her. Roll tape

Sprocket said:
Not being a lawyer, and not even playing one on TV, or not even having stayed at a Holiday Inn Express ever, I may be wrong, but doctor-patient privilege may trump any investigation. What a doc determines between himself and his patient is based on his best estimate. Unless of course, one of the notes results in a malpractice lawsuit, which is kinda doubtful. Now they could waste a lot of time and money pursuing some halfassed legal remedy, but I believe the courts would send them packing.

I think they wouldn’t need to go into the patient/doctor privilege as they caught them on tape admitting to it. The doctor was trying to be cool and not admit it on camera but the teacher blew it and the doc was caught. Also I saw one interview with a man who got an excuse who really wasn’t looking for one. He seems willing to talk. Don’t be so sure a case can’t be made. How many people got these excuses? Could be possible a few got them who are not on the side of the union. How about if the teachers are dumb enough to present them and the principle has say 30 from the same doctor and that doctor is on camera being at the rally? Pretty good case that no exam was made. I don’t think they would be investigating if they didn’t think they had cause.

nutso said:
You are wrong! No one would be asking for the patient’s name nor condition. They would ask the doc if the doc had ever examined the person in question and to explain why they are on video writing excuses for people who were not sick.

OK sorry I bow to Big Hair Todds intimate knowledge of the situation. I did not know you could tell from video whether or not the patient in question was sick or might have already been a patient of the doctors. Also I did not know you had intimate knowledge of what questions were being asked. I did not make any assumptions past the fact that whatever passes between a doctor and his patient is confidential, regardless of locale.

notsofast said:
You are wrong! No one would be asking for the patient’s name nor condition. They would ask the doc if the doc had ever examined the person in question and to explain why they are on video writing excuses for people who were not sick.

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Does doctor patient exist when the transaction is taking place in the middle of a crowd nad involves nothing except handing out blanket fill – in – the – blanks forms?

Ajolily said:
I think they wouldn’t need to go into the patient/doctor privilege as they caught them on tape admitting to it. The doctor was trying to be cool and not admit it on camera but the teacher blew it and the doc was caught. Also I saw one interview with a man who got an excuse who really wasn’t looking for one. He seems willing to talk. Don’t be so sure a case can’t be made. How many people got these excuses? Could be possible a few got them who are not on the side of the union. How about if the teachers are dumb enough to present them and the principle has say 30 from the same doctor and that doctor is on camera being at the rally? Pretty good case that no exam was made. I don’t think they would be investigating if they didn’t think they had cause.

I am not assuming anything. If someone wants to pursue this legally, that is his right. Making it stick? I’ll leave you to argue that one with the lawyers. I am sure you could probably get enough money put together to get the doc convicted of a misdemeanor. Then you would have to get a peer review board to discipline him. Good luck with that.

But if you are up for a snipe hunt, have at it. I have more important things to do….I need to knit handwarmers for all the squirrels in my yard.

Grammie said:
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Does doctor patient exist when the transaction is taking place in the middle of a crowd nad involves nothing except handing out blanket fill – in – the – blanks forms?

Doctor patient privilege exists from the moment a patient asks a doctor to assist them. If the patient is incapacitated, and the doctor proceeds anyway, doctor patient privilege still exists. Spin that any way you want.

Ajolily said:
I think they wouldn’t need to go into the patient/doctor privilege as they caught them on tape admitting to it. The doctor was trying to be cool and not admit it on camera but the teacher blew it and the doc was caught. Also I saw one interview with a man who got an excuse who really wasn’t looking for one. He seems willing to talk. Don’t be so sure a case can’t be made. How many people got these excuses? Could be possible a few got them who are not on the side of the union. How about if the teachers are dumb enough to present them and the principle has say 30 from the same doctor and that doctor is on camera being at the rally? Pretty good case that no exam was made. I don’t think they would be investigating if they didn’t think they had cause.

Then I don’t know which kind of case they are talking about either. I am not so sure a medical board is barred from any medical evidence in an internal ethics case, are you. I though you were trying to say it was all a fraud that it happened but now you are saying well no one can prove it? Does it make it OK if the fraud happened but it can’t be proven? The end justifies the means is the Marxist mantra and seems now to the teachers. Sure glad my daughter is planning to home school.

The Real Royal King said:
You slander as easily as some people use a paper clip.

The Real Royal King said:
That’s right Sprocket. Basil, I mean Gordo, spends much of his life in Court, and, despite the orange prison jumpsuit he’s wearing, he’s never lost a case.

RRKING , foolishly . Didn’t take long to find an example of what I do , did it ?

Joseph Glackin said:
Megyn said no one EVER said anything like that to her. Roll tape

No, she didn’t. Roll tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqSOFEONdZw

Sprocket said:
I am not assuming anything. If someone wants to pursue this legally, that is his right. Making it stick? I’ll leave you to argue that one with the lawyers. I am sure you could probably get enough money put together to get the doc convicted of a misdemeanor. Then you would have to get a peer review board to discipline him. Good luck with that. But if you are up for a snipe hunt, have at it. I have more important things to do….I need to knit handwarmers for all the squirrels in my yard.

Oh I try not to make snide remarks but in your case I just can’t help it. I can so see you knitting handwarmers for all the squirrels in your yard. The image really fits your comments. Thanks for the laugh.

SpineCrusher said:
Remove Unions, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid from your equation. What security is left? You had it all your life and now you want to take it away from future generations?

Is that all you’ve got? Is that your security, the government teat? That’s your plan? That’s your life?

Spine Crusher, my ass. Unless you crushed yours.

In other news, Indiana democrats have employed the same tactic as those in Wisconsin and the governor has proposed dropping the bill. How does it feel to have your tactics turned back on you, guys?

BTW, the only benefit I’ve received from unions, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is the glorious opportunity of giving them my money. I would love to take what I’ve had all my life from my kids and grandkids; negative cash flow. Why, I’d teach ‘em what to do with the money!

Sprocket said:
Doctor patient privilege exists from the moment a patient asks a doctor to assist them.

Like hell it does. You think you can walk up to any doctor on the street, ask him to help you, and obligate him to a doctor patient relationship with you? Of course you can’t. Don’t be ridiculous.

Anybody else notice there hasn’t been a sarah palin article in a while?

Whoops, misspoke, it appears mediaite still has a slight Palin woody.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Whoops, misspoke, it appears mediaite still has a slight Palin woody.

As do you, apparently.

BadGenome said:
As do you, apparently.

Actually I was quite tired of them and was happy that the site went a while without one. I don’t find Palin attractive either.

Since writing notes, by doctors, has nothing to do with the union, or the issues, the question was a red herring and Megyn was just being a bitch. The man was nice enough to come on her show, and she could have mediated by getting to the crux of the issues instead of pandering to a side issue.

valkyrie101 said:
Since writing notes, by doctors, has nothing to do with the union, or the issues, the question was a red herring and Megyn was just being a bitch.

It has to do with union members stealing sick days so they could protest on the taxpayer’s dime. It has everything to do with the union.

Also in other news the majority are against reducing and eliminated government programs as well as stripping collective bargaining rights. I also wonder or if fox will mention protesters being locked out of the statehouse building in Ohio.

Pablo says:
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valkyrie101 said:
Since writing notes, by doctors, has nothing to do with the union, or the issues, the question was a red herring and Megyn was just being a bitch.

It has to do with union members stealing sick days so they could protest on the taxpayer’s dime. It has everything to do with the union.

Unions aren’t the problem, stupid right-wing nut Governors bought and paid for the scummy Koch brothers are. Stop hating America, conservatives!

Pablo says:
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BTW, the only benefit I’ve received from unions, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is the glorious opportunity of giving them my money. I would love to take what I’ve had all my life from my kids and grandkids; negative cash flow. Why, I’d teach ‘em what to do with the money!

Thank unions your crummy, ungrateful kids and grandkids have basic rights, moron.

Leftist radical union hacks used to be able to ‘hide’ behind the supposed ‘affluence’ of the private sector when they embezzled money from honest taxpayers to pay for their Cadillac Escalades, vacations to Switzerland, and other ‘necessities.’ But now these hacks are the affluent ones, and they’re asking–no, demanding–that the people just getting by in life help keep them that way. Asking them to pay not only for their current Escalade, but also for their next two. I’m pleased to see Leftist union hacks on parade now; we’ve been waiting for this ‘reality show’ from them for awhile now.

valkyrie101 said:
Since writing notes, by doctors, has nothing to do with the union, or the issues, the question was a red herring and Megyn was just being a bitch. The man was nice enough to come on her show, and she could have mediated by getting to the crux of the issues instead of pandering to a side issue.

The doctors were writing notes for the teachers who were protesting on behalf of their union so how does it have noting to do with the union? I think the union leader was the one throwing out the red herrings to avoid a legitimate question.

Pablo said:
It has to do with union members stealing sick days so they could protest on the taxpayer’s dime. It has everything to do with the union.

Yes, like the governer, it sounds like you have animosity toward unions. Which is different than budgetary considerations. What responsible government spends more than it takes in? By law, taxes should meet needs. But they want to cut the teachers pay instead of taxing the trillions that are being accumulated by the rich.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, like the governer, it sounds like you have animosity toward unions. Which is different than budgetary considerations. What responsible government spends more than it takes in? By law, taxes should meet needs. But they want to cut the teachers pay instead of taxing the trillions that are being accumulated by the rich.

No- Pay salary isn’t touched. Now, if you non-WI people that are Pro-Union would just stay out our politics, that would be greatly appreciated. :)

WCinWI said:
No- Pay salary isn’t touched. Now, if you non-WI people that are Pro-Union would just stay out our politics, that would be greatly appreciated. :)

At $10,000+ per year, per student, shouldn’t they be the brightest kids in the, pardon the pun, union? Man, aren’t unions good for kids, AND taxpayers???

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g

SpineCrusher said:
like what? Name in what way, any way, that you’re leaving a better future for your grandkids? Remove Unions, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid from your equation. What security is left? You had it all your life and now you want to take it away from future generations? …and you wonder why the youth hate conservatives.

Remove public unions and the world will be a better place. FDR and George Meany opposed them. I wouldn’t call either on of them right wing radicals, would you?

Public education unions today, Governor Walker, Fire, and Police unions tomorrow! Seems the unions really don’t care much for honesty, integrity or taxpayers.

ndanielson said:
Public education unions today, Governor Walker, Fire, and Police unions tomorrow! Seems the unions really don’t care much for honesty, integrity or taxpayers.

Oh, and they turn out a lousy product, at exorbitant prices.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/two-thirds-wisconsin-public-school-8th-g

Pablo said:
Like hell it does. You think you can walk up to any doctor on the street, ask him to help you, and obligate him to a doctor patient relationship with you? Of course you can’t. Don’t be ridiculous.

As soon as the doctor consents to treat, a bona fide relationship exists. As long as the patient has sought aid without coercion, and the doctor consents, both confidentiality and privilege exists. A casual relationship, such as you asking your golf partner who is a doctor about your erectile dysfunction, does not qualify.

Ajolily said:
Troll and rox: I never once heard the Head Union Thug deny it happened. Don’t you think He would have if it had been made up? Writing those doctors notes constitutes legal fraud and is a criminal offense. They also have the names of some of the doctors and are investigating. I’ll bet not too many of the teachers who got the notes plan to present them now.

It can’t be fraud cause the real racist king says its not fraud and he is a lawyer cause he watched “A Few Good Men” hundreds of times and never misses NCIS.

Sprocket said:
As soon as the doctor consents to treat, a bona fide relationship exists. As long as the patient has sought aid without coercion, and the doctor consents, both confidentiality and privilege exists. A casual relationship, such as you asking your golf partner who is a doctor about your erectile dysfunction, does not qualify.

Up is down, down is up in liberal land. Lies are okay as long as the ends justify the means. No wonder they have no problem with the peaceful teachings of Mohammed:

Taqiyya: Conditions to lie set by Muhammad
In his Sira, Muhammad authorized lying to improve the chances of successful assassinations, for example in the case of Shaaban Ibn Khalid al-Hazly and Bin Kaab.
Muhammad said: “Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people” [Ahmad, 6.459. H]

Wow, so Muhammad, who can’t you lie to? What if you hate your boss??? He’s your enemy then, no? Your neighbor? Americans? Christians?

TrollJuice said:
Hmmmmm……I wonder who it was? The period from 1933 to around 1937 was characterized by the systematic elimination of non-Nazi organizations that could potentially influence people, such as trade unions and political parties.

Ummmmm…………Franklin Roosevelt?

TrollJuice said:
When the newly elected Reichstag first convened on March 23, 1933, (not including the Communist delegates, since their party had already been banned by that time) it passed the Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz), transferring all legislative powers to the Nazi government and, in effect, abolishing the remainder of the Weimar constitution as a whole. Soon afterwards the government banned the Social Democratic party, which had voted against the Act, while the other parties chose to dissolve themselves to avoid arrests and concentration camp imprisonment.

Gee, tell us more, Mr. Whoopee!

Are you going to pull out the 3D BB?

Sprocket said:
As soon as the doctor consents to treat, a bona fide relationship exists. As long as the patient has sought aid without coercion, and the doctor consents, both confidentiality and privilege exists. A casual relationship, such as you asking your golf partner who is a doctor about your erectile dysfunction, does not qualify.

ha ha. You told your golf partner about your erectile dysfunction? What an idiot. You gotta keep that shit to yourself, bro!

notsofast said:
You are wrong! No one would be asking for the patient’s name nor condition. They would ask the doc if the doc had ever examined the person in question and to explain why they are on video writing excuses for people who were not sick.

And the priviledge isn’t inviolable. If it were insurance fraud would never be uncovered. Of course, the real racist king is the legal authority here cause he can lipsynch every word of “A Few Good Men” right along with the cast, without missing a beat. He is so smart that his IQ is nearly in double digits.

Sprocket said:
As soon as the doctor consents to treat, a bona fide relationship exists.

Which is different from asking one for help, huh? Which is what you said.

The doctors are being investigated for ethic violations by the medical review board not being sued in court for malpractice. I don’t think Doctor/patient privilege is an issue for the medical review board.

Grammie said:
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Does doctor patient exist when the transaction is taking place in the middle of a crowd nad involves nothing except handing out blanket fill – in – the – blanks forms?

There’s a fraud exception to the physician-patient privilege, which means that the privilege doesn’t attach when fraud is being committed.

BFD said:
McCain too… “Margriet Oostveen is a freelance journalist who went undercover as a volunteer in the McCain campaign. They hired her to ghost write letters posing as McCain supporters.” Bunch of frauds and liars, huh?

Who cares except you.

roxsteady said:
This whole phony doctors note bullshit which was drummed up by fox is a complete fraud.

So sad to see people like you and others on here so mislead and misinformed yourself.
Instead of really listening and thinking and not seeing the union bosses are using the teachers and putting them at risk of losing there jobs. Those doctors will lose there license also for being mislead by emotions instead of facts…

The Unions dont care if the Governor layoffs 10,000 teachers as long as they have bargain rights they will see the teachers as casualty’s of war.

ndanielson said:
I wish liberals would move to China.

I wish Liberals would simply practice what they preach. Namely, abortion.

Judge Mental said:
There’s a fraud exception to the physician-patient privilege, which means that the privilege doesn’t attach when fraud is being committed.

Thank ou.

My JD is from Law and order so I wanted a second opinion. :)

I’m betting that the “doctors and workers” are Koch Bros/Fox News plants that are there to discredit the protesters and fire up the Tea Party loonies.

Judge Mental said:
There’s a fraud exception to the physician-patient privilege, which means that the privilege doesn’t attach when fraud is being committed.

And there is no liberalism clause???

WCinWI said:
No- Pay salary isn’t touched. Now, if you non-WI people that are Pro-Union would just stay out our politics, that would be greatly appreciated. :)

Benefits, pay, same thing.

Ajolily said:
The doctors were writing notes for the teachers who were protesting on behalf of their union so how does it have noting to do with the union? I think the union leader was the one throwing out the red herrings to avoid a legitimate question.

If a doctor writes a phony note isn’t that a doctor’s ethics issue? I wonder how many phony notes the teachers get each year from parents covering for their kids.

valkyrie101 said:
If a doctor writes a phony note isn’t that a doctor’s ethics issue? I wonder how many phony notes the teachers get each year from parents covering for their kids.

It’s always better to have lying and cheating at home and at school, and the teachers lies don’t, a) count, b) are much better for the kid anyway…After all they all have Masters and PhD’s…Too. From liberal colleges and universities…the are smaaaaaaaaaaaart.

Always the moral relativism. So old. So cheap, so easy. So lazy. So liberal. You guys really haven’t “progressed” at all, have you?

How do you wake up with yourself?

valkyrie101 said:
If a doctor writes a phony note isn’t that a doctor’s ethics issue? I wonder how many phony notes the teachers get each year from parents covering for their kids.

I don’t recall parents being licensed by the state.

ImNotBlue said:
I don’t recall parents being licensed by the state.

And don’t forget, the good parents will get the same treatment. You know, spread the wealth?

The Unions are trying to negotiate with the governor, but his way or no way is not working. When Reagan fire the air traffic controllers they were on strike, these people are not on strike but are willing to give back some of what they already have to help the state save money. The governor is misguided on how to deal with the people’s needs, ($50,000 per year times 8% equals $4,000 divide by 12 equals $333 per month just might not fit the families budget)maybe he needs more training from the Koch brothers on just what to do next. The source of the problem is the cost of benefits, which was brought on by the health care system and health care insurance which has double since the year 2000. (Wake up follow the money trail). If he would negotiate with the health care and health insurance companies on their profits this would help all. Let them move out of state if they do not want to help out the cause, others will replace them, greed has no loyalty. Does not anyone have the backbone to address this problem, the root cause of the benefits is the ever increasing cost, and this adds cost to every company in the state? If the governor would do this then it would make him a hero to all except the health care system, health care insurance and their share holders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sarah Palin is the best! She rocks!! You betcha!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/22/wisconsin-senate-committee-passes-new-rule-senators-must-collect-their-paychecks-in-person/

Awesome. The video is priceless.

Lou Sarah said:
Sarah Palin is the best! She rocks!! You betcha!!

You’re SarahP, if you’re anyone.

ndanielson said:
Up is down, (whole bunch of crazy shit here) Christians?

Obviously someone needs their medication adjusted, or to lay off the ayahuasca

Pablo said:
Which is different from asking one for help, huh? Which is what you said.

Gosh no, you just read it that way. However, when you get run over by a car, YOU probably want to make sure you phrase it correctly, so that the doctor could be clear in your intent. We wouldn’t want you to bleed to death waiting for the doc to establish a patient-doctor relationship with you. In this case, since we are splitting hypothetical hairs, I took the time to ask my cousin, who has trauma medicine in her resume and she opined that “doctors treat patients as they present themselves”.
Again spin that any way you want to. That is what this is about anyway.

I guess if doctors were perfect, then Rush would have never had access to synthetic heroin without hitting the corner.

ndanielson said:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/22/wisconsin-senate-committee-passes-new-rule-senators-must-collect-their-paychecks-in-person/

Awesome. The video is priceless.

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I can’t stop laughing.

Priceless is right. Have they even heard a faint rumor in their lives that choices made have real world consequences? Doesn’t seem so to me.

Thank you for that link. I absolutely loved it.

valkyrie101 said:
Since writing notes, by doctors, has nothing to do with the union, or the issues, the question was a red herring and Megyn was just being a bitch. The man was nice enough to come on her show, and she could have mediated by getting to the crux of the issues instead of pandering to a side issue.

Ajolily said:
The doctors were writing notes for the teachers who were protesting on behalf of their union so how does it have noting to do with the union? I think the union leader was the one throwing out the red herrings to avoid a legitimate question.

valkyrie101 said:
If a doctor writes a phony note isn’t that a doctor’s ethics issue? I wonder how many phony notes the teachers get each year from parents covering for their kids.

Why did you change the subject. You said it had nothing to do with unions and I showed it did so now you want to talk about the ethics of the doctors. Yes it is an ethics issue and that makes it important. It is also about the ethics of the teachers. The Union Rep should have condemned it. Bringing up the parents is a red herring. Red herrings are your specialty as well as deflection.

Megyn is great. She’ll take on anybody and take em down.I wish FOX would give her a prime time slot after she has her baby. Maybe Shep’s 2nd time slot right after Bret since that is the weakest show of the FOX lineup..

ndanielson said:
You’re SarahP, if you’re anyone.

So?

She is great and a fantastic debater.

I wonder how much the Teacher’s Union president makes? Meanwhile the students of Wisconsin are not making the grade.

Ajolily said:
Why did you change the subject. You said it had nothing to do with unions and I showed it did so now you want to talk about the ethics of the doctors. Yes it is an ethics issue and that makes it important. It is also about the ethics of the teachers. The Union Rep should have condemned it. Bringing up the parents is a red herring. Red herrings are your specialty as well as deflection.

The subject has to do with budgetary issues, right?

Latin2 said:
I wonder how much the Teacher’s Union president makes? Meanwhile the students of Wisconsin are not making the grade.

Yes, I will agree with you in that regard. Union officials make more than they should. But compare the salaries of the corporate officials who have been bankrolling the “we will go out of business if you raise our taxes” movement. A chief executive officer of a Standard & Poor’s (S&P) 500 index company was paid, on average, $9.25 million in total compensation in 2009.

anderson100 said:
The Unions are trying to negotiate with the governor, but his way or no way is not working. When Reagan fire the air traffic controllers they were on strike, these people are not on strike but are willing to give back some of what they already have to help the state save money. The governor is misguided on how to deal with the people’s needs, ($50,000 per year times 8% equals $4,000 divide by 12 equals $333 per month just might not fit the families budget)maybe he needs more training from the Koch brothers on just what to do next. The source of the problem is the cost of benefits, which was brought on by the health care system and health care insurance which has double since the year 2000. (Wake up follow the money trail). If he would negotiate with the health care and health insurance companies on their profits this would help all. Let them move out of state if they do not want to help out the cause, others will replace them, greed has no loyalty. Does not anyone have the backbone to address this problem, the root cause of the benefits is the ever increasing cost, and this adds cost to every company in the state? If the governor would do this then it would make him a hero to all except the health care system, health care insurance and their share holders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, let companies move out of state if they don’t do everything they can to give public workers what they want! After all, public workers deserve every penny of tax money they demand for pay and benefits and if those paying those taxes want to move out of the state, then the state should just let them. Above all, the state shouldn’t worry about keeping businesses because they can just raise taxes on the businesses that stay in the state. The preceeding was liberal logic.

Mike Langyel… have you been hypnotised??? Has someone hypnotised you???

Next time ask the union guy why FDR said this about public employee unions?

“All government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people.”

“The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters. Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees.”

“Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable.”

Barracuda: 7 Union Head: 0

Not even close….

This is the left, ladies and gents. The left that the liberal media desperately tries to hide.

SEIU Protester Harasses Black Tea Partier: “Do You Have Any Children… That You Claim?” (Video)

A pro-public union SEIU rally turned ugly Tuesday outside the Colorado Capitol in Denver.
The Colorado union supporters started out the day chanting, “Tax the rich!”

During the rally several of the pro-union protesters took turns harassing a gay black conservative tea partyer who was participating in the counter-rally.

The SEIU supporters called him stupid, uneducated. They called him “son.” They harassed him. They asked him how he could vote against “his own best interest.”

In this clip the SEIU supporters asked the black tea partyer,
“Do you have any children that you claim?” **

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/02/seiu-protester-harasses-black-tea-partier-do-you-have-any-children-that-you-claim-video/

Hi, everyone!  I’m a teacher and I educate your stupid kids 8 mos. a year.  I want everything I can get and you had better give it to me or I’ll teach your little darlings that 1+1=3…lol…Wisconsin is the best…lol…let’s all take a vacation and go to WISCONSIN!…lol

Its blatant fraud and theft of taxpayer dollars. This is what the teachers have been doing for decades along with indoctrinating your children rather than educating them. Millions have been stolen from Wisconsin because of this and it is downright disgusting. There are people starving in our streets, STARVING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and these scumsucking p.o.s. can care less about nothing but their worthless pathetic hides.

If you have to remind people that you are in charge, something tells me you’ve already lost that battle.

A perfect example of a union that condones fraudulent behavior. The ends always justify the means in the world of a union leader. Sad, that there are those that support teachers and doctors lying and cheating. The same teachers that are teaching your children essentially that this is A-OK. Sickening that they will constantly use the children as pawns, to get their way – while claiming what they are doing – is for the children. Ya right.

Fire Every last one these criminals. The last thing children need is an example set by a so-called ‘teacher’; that if you cry and holler loud enough, cheating and lying in the process, you to can get your way.

These union criminals have more money at their disposal than almost all of the big, evil corporations that they constantly crow on about. Yet, they have managed to convince a whole lot of people, they are just in it to protect the ‘working man’ or the ‘little guy’.

Tell me another fairy tale.

Nuktubian said:
These union criminals have more money at their disposal than almost all of the big, evil corporations that they constantly crow on about. Yet, they have managed to convince a whole lot of people, they are just in it to protect the ‘working man’ or the ‘little guy’.
Tell me another fairy tale.

Really? Here is the yearly income for the chief spokespeople opposing unions: Bill O’Reilly 30 million per year; Glenn Beck 40 million per year; Hannity 20 million per year. How much does the union chiefs in Wisconsin earn?

valkyrie101 said:
Really? Here is the yearly income for the chief spokespeople opposing unions: Bill O’Reilly 30 million per year; Glenn Beck 40 million per year; Hannity 20 million per year. How much does the union chiefs in Wisconsin earn?

And the Fox boys are worth every penny. Unlike the union thugs.

valkyrie101 said:
Really? Here is the yearly income for the chief spokespeople opposing unions: Bill O’Reilly 30 million per year; Glenn Beck 40 million per year; Hannity 20 million per year. How much does the union chiefs in Wisconsin earn?

The individual union leaders do not make the money directly.

The combined money in their coffers, and the amount spent on elections (2008 Election), is greater than that spent by the corporations. Do they ever consult with the people whose union dues they are siphoning from on who they should support? Does a conservative union member paying the same dues as his progressive counter-part have a say?

Some corporation CEO’s (Jobs, Gates and Buffet for example) supported Barack Obumbler. How many unions supported GOP candidates? I will let your left-wing mind think about that for a minute. The aforementioned billionaires have, and make more money – than a thousand Beck’s, O’Reilly’s and Hannity’s.

Do you support this criminality going in Wisconsin? Or, do you only support criminality when it is the people with a similar ideology to yours, is doing it?

Here is something you won’t see on Fox:

WALKER: You’ve got a few of the radical ones — unfortunately, one of them’s the minority leader — but most of the rest of them are just looking for a way to get out of this. They’re scared out of their minds. They don’t know what it means. There’s a bunch of recalls up against them. They’d really like to just get back up here and get it over with. So the paycheck thing, some of the other things threatening them, I think collectively there’s enough going on, and as long as they don’t think I’m going to cave, which again we have no interest in. An interesting idea that was brought up to me by my chief of staff, we won’t do it until tomorrow, is putting out an appeal to the Democratic leader. I would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly Democrat leader, plus the other two Republican leaders–talk, not negotiate and listen to what they have to say if they will in turn–but I’ll only do it if all 14 of them will come back and sit down in the state assembly. They can recess it… the reason for that, we’re verifying it this afternoon, legally, we believe, once they’ve gone into session, they don’t physically have to be there. If they’re actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they’d have quorum because it’s turned out that way. So we’re double checking that. If you heard I was going to talk to them that’s the only reason why. We’d only do it if they came back to the capitol with all 14 of them. My sense is, hell. I’ll talk. If they want to yell at me for an hour, I’m used to that. I can deal with that. But I’m not negotiating.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

In Sweden (old socialist state) they’re at least allowed to protest without having to fake illness, suppose socialism has its good sides after all.

ndanielson said:
And the Fox boys are worth every penny. Unlike the union thugs.

Exactly.

Nuktubian said:
The individual union leaders do not make the money directly. The combined money in their coffers, and the amount spent on elections (2008 Election), is greater than that spent by the corporations. Do they ever consult with the people whose union dues they are siphoning from on who they should support? Does a conservative union member paying the same dues as his progressive counter-part have a say? Some corporation CEO’s (Jobs, Gates and Buffet for example) supported Barack Obumbler. How many unions supported GOP candidates? I will let your left-wing mind think about that for a minute. The aforementioned billionaires have, and make more money – than a thousand Beck’s, O’Reilly’s and Hannity’s. Do you support this criminality going in Wisconsin? Or, do you only support criminality when it is the people with a similar ideology to yours, is doing it?

Not much in there that is too accurate and in no way responsive to the grim reality that Bill, Glenn, Shawn, and Ayers combined salaries are more than the budget deficit in the whole State of Wisconsin.

Nuktubian said:
A perfect example of a union that condones fraudulent behavior. The ends always justify the means in the world of a union leader. Sad, that there are those that support teachers and doctors lying and cheating. The same teachers that are teaching your children essentially that this is A-OK. Sickening that they will constantly use the children as pawns, to get their way – while claiming what they are doing – is for the children. Ya right. Fire Every last one these criminals. The last thing children need is an example set by a so-called ‘teacher’; that if you cry and holler loud enough, cheating and lying in the process, you to can get your way. These union criminals have more money at their disposal than almost all of the big, evil corporations that they constantly crow on about. Yet, they have managed to convince a whole lot of people, they are just in it to protect the ‘working man’ or the ‘little guy’. Tell me another fairy tale.

Good post!

Nuktubian said:
The individual union leaders do not make the money directly. The combined money in their coffers, and the amount spent on elections (2008 Election), is greater than that spent by the corporations. Do they ever consult with the people whose union dues they are siphoning from on who they should support? Does a conservative union member paying the same dues as his progressive counter-part have a say? Some corporation CEO’s (Jobs, Gates and Buffet for example) supported Barack Obumbler. How many unions supported GOP candidates? I will let your left-wing mind think about that for a minute. The aforementioned billionaires have, and make more money – than a thousand Beck’s, O’Reilly’s and Hannity’s. Do you support this criminality going in Wisconsin? Or, do you only support criminality when it is the people with a similar ideology to yours, is doing it?

valkyrie101 said:
Not much in there that is too accurate and in no way responsive to the grim reality that Bill, Glenn, Shawn, and Ayers combined salaries are more than the budget deficit in the whole State of Wisconsin.

Bill, Glenn, Shawn, and Ayers use their money how they see fit to promote the candidates they like while the union goons use dues that are forced on the people to promote candidates the people the money came from don’t support. What does their combined income have to do with the size of the budget of WI? Are you suggesting that Bill Ayers send his money to support the state of WI?

Ajolily said:
valkyrie101 said:
Not much in there that is too accurate and in no way responsive to the grim reality that Bill, Glenn, Shawn, and Ayers combined salaries are more than the budget deficit in the whole State of Wisconsin.

Bill, Glenn, Shawn, and Ayers use their money how they see fit to promote the candidates they like while the union goons use dues that are forced on the people to promote candidates the people the money came from don’t support. What does their combined income have to do with the size of the budget of WI? Are you suggesting that Bill Ayers send his money to support the state of WI?

Well, Jesus did say something about giving away money to the poor.

Ajolily said:
First they did it for money not for education or the children.

Yeah, you get into teaching because of all the riches. Don’t prove your moronic by posting.

Fox is doing their part of course for the Koch Bros. As are the teabaggers on stipend posting the same BS.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

Nuktubian said:
The individual union leaders do not make the money directly.

The combined money in their coffers, and the amount spent on elections (2008 Election), is greater than that spent by the corporations. Do they ever consult with the people whose union dues they are siphoning from on who they should support? Does a conservative union member paying the same dues as his progressive counter-part have a say?

Some corporation CEO’s (Jobs, Gates and Buffet for example) supported Barack Obumbler. How many unions supported GOP candidates? I will let your left-wing mind think about that for a minute. The aforementioned billionaires have, and make more money – than a thousand Beck’s, O’Reilly’s and Hannity’s.

Do you support this criminality going in Wisconsin? Or, do you only support criminality when it is the people with a similar ideology to yours, is doing it?

You’re owned by the non-tax paying Murdoch’s and Koch Bros. You’re not for democracy – you’re supporting plutocracy and the Corporate master you work for is EVIL.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

ndanielson said:
And don’t forget, the good parents will get the same treatment. You know, spread the wealth?

Yeah, you get into teaching because of all the riches. Don’t prove your moronic by posting.

Fox is doing their part of course for the Koch Bros. As are the teabaggers on stipend posting the same BS.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

ndanielson said:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/22/wisconsin-senate-committee-passes-new-rule-senators-must-collect-their-paychecks-in-person/

Awesome. The video is priceless.

The Republicans can get their pay directly from the Koch Brothers and Health Insurance Mafia, delivered to their homes via prostitutes and lobbiests –

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

Grammie said:
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I can’t stop laughing.

Priceless is right. Have they even heard a faint rumor in their lives that choices made have real world consequences? Doesn’t seem so to me.

Thank you for that link. I absolutely loved it.

Laugh it up comrade!

The Republicans can get their pay directly from the Koch Brothers and Health Insurance Mafia, delivered to their homes via prostitutes and lobbiests –

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

ndanielson said:
Up is down, down is up in liberal land. Lies are okay as long as the ends justify the means. No wonder they have no problem with the peaceful teachings of Mohammed:

Taqiyya: Conditions to lie set by Muhammad
In his Sira, Muhammad authorized lying to improve the chances of successful assassinations, for example in the case of Shaaban Ibn Khalid al-Hazly and Bin Kaab.
Muhammad said: “Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people” [Ahmad, 6.459. H]

Wow, so Muhammad, who can’t you lie to? What if you hate your boss??? He’s your enemy then, no? Your neighbor? Americans? Christians?

SOROS!! Boo Chicken Hawks!!! LOL.

The Republicans can get their pay directly from the Koch Brothers and Health Insurance Mafia, delivered to their homes via prostitutes and lobbiests –

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

valkyrie101 said:
Really? Here is the yearly income for the chief spokespeople opposing unions: Bill O’Reilly 30 million per year; Glenn Beck 40 million per year; Hannity 20 million per year. How much does the union chiefs in Wisconsin earn?

You’re right. Where is Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Palin and Boehner’s “Sacrifice”?

The Republicans have NEVER asked the Corporate Citizen whom they work for to sacrifice. As matter of fact, they just gave themselves another Trillion US Tax Dollars to do – NOTHING; then turn on the tax paying American middle-class and poor and ask them TO PICK UP THE TAB.

Nice work GOP. Screwing the people after 8 years of Bush is no small feat. Of course, you didn’t explain to them this when you lied running for office – just that “tough decisions” had to be made – then of course you made them at the expense of the country. The Koch Bros. are very happy with your work. You are truly Koch Whores.

The Republicans can get their pay directly from the Koch Brothers and Health Insurance Mafia, delivered to their homes via prostitutes and lobbyists.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

Pablo said:
It has to do with union members stealing sick days so they could protest on the taxpayer’s dime. It has everything to do with the union.

You sound like you would like to see a communist rule, comrade. Are you too a Koch Whore?

ChrisNH said:
I wish Liberals would simply practice what they preach. Namely, abortion.

And somehow we missed you. Our bad. Wish we could rectify it here, but now your just another Koch Whore.

Ajolily said:
First they did it for money not for education or the children.

JazzyJim said:
Yeah, you get into teaching because of all the riches. Don’t prove your moronic by posting.

How is what they are doing for education or their students? It is a battle about their compensation and that is about money. I never said it was a lot of riches. It sure isn’t about the students as they keep saying.

JazzyJim said:
You’re owned by the non-tax paying Murdoch’s and Koch Bros. You’re not for democracy – you’re supporting plutocracy and the Corporate master you work for is EVIL.

Hey Koch loving Republicans – you’re boy Scott Walker just screwed the POOCH!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

I wonder if conspiracy Beck will have anything to say? Fox is in a full emergency containment mode on how to spin this – AND I can guarantee you – just like BECK – that they’ll all have the same story and support for Koch Bros. and Scott Walker! I didn’t even have to go to Glenn Beck University for that!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Palin, Fox, AM Hate Talk Radio – will all have a Republican spin on Walker’s screw up today – you betcha!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html

The more I see who hates the Koch Bros the more I like them.

JazzyJim said:
You sound like you would like to see a communist rule, comrade. Are you too a Koch Whore?

Better than a socialist, 0bama loving whore any day. That is your communist whore, by the way. Socialism has led to all kinds of despotic leaders who firmly believed in socialism…until the money ran out. Then, bullets were so much cheaper.

Koch Bros, Koch Bros! Is this the new liberal tool to replace “Your just a racist”? I never heard of the Koch Bros before and had to look them up. Interesting what is going on. Won’t wash, what ever Koch bros have going on has no part in my wanting the Public Unions brought down a notch. But the enemy of my enemy they say.

Ajolily said:
Koch Bros, Koch Bros! Is this the new liberal tool to replace “Your just a racist”? I never heard of the Koch Bros before and had to look them up. Interesting what is going on. Won’t wash, what ever Koch bros have going on has no part in my wanting the Public Unions brought down a notch. But the enemy of my enemy they say.

Koch is the new Halliburton.

Wow it is too bad the the Democrats aren’t chanting about the Democrats that are super rich. You know George Soros, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet. If they don’t think these people run the White House they should do some real research. Soros has Obama on strings and will pull them at will.

valkyrie101 said:
Really? Here is the yearly income for the chief spokespeople opposing unions: Bill O’Reilly 30 million per year; Glenn Beck 40 million per year; Hannity 20 million per year. How much does the union chiefs in Wisconsin earn?

None of the people you name collect money directly or indirectly from the taxpayers. In fact they all pay a lot of taxes. In Wisconsin, taxpayers’ money goes to the government, which pays the teachers and other public workers. Then $700-1000 a year is deducted from the public worker’s pay that goes directly to the unions, to pay the union bosses and to help elect more Democrats who will approve more pay and benefits for the union members. so they can pay more union dues, so the union bosses get more money and can elect more Democrats, then they can raise the pay of the union members, so that more dues go into the slush funds of the union bosses and help to elect more Democrats, and so on, and so forth.

J Baustian said:
None of the people you name collect money directly or indirectly from the taxpayers. In fact they all pay a lot of taxes.

Of course they do, since in order to recoup that kind of investment Fox charges an inflated rate for providing its programming. O’Reilly earns about 100K per show, and make no mistake about it, you are paying part of it.

J Baustian said:
None of the people you name collect money directly or indirectly from the taxpayers.

valkyrie101 said:
Of course they do, since in order to recoup that kind of investment Fox charges an inflated rate for providing its programming. O’Reilly earns about 100K per show, and make no mistake about it, you are paying part of it.

Yet the market seems to be willing to pay that price. Did you know that no tax payers dollars go to Fox. Are you mixing them up with public broadcasting? None of the people you name collect money directly or indirectly from the taxpayers. I think maybe you can read but you need to take some classes on comprehension. You never answer the comments directed at you. You only disseminate.

Ajolily said:
Yet the market seems to be willing to pay that price. Did you know that no tax payers dollars go to Fox. Are you mixing them up with public broadcasting? None of the people you name collect money directly or indirectly from the taxpayers. I think maybe you can read but you need to take some classes on comprehension. You never answer the comments directed at you. You only disseminate.

I suppose it should matter to me if the money I must pay goes for taxes or an inflated cost for medical care, or cable programming, but it doesn’t. Either way, its out of my pocket. You pay O’Reilly everytime you pay a cable bill.

valkyrie101 said:
I suppose it should matter to me if the money I must pay goes for taxes or an inflated cost for medical care, or cable programming, but it doesn’t. Either way, its out of my pocket. You pay O’Reilly everytime you pay a cable bill.

I don’t pay a cable bill and the last time I looked into using one the plan I looked into had to pay extra for Fox and that is one reason I choose to not get the plan. Difference is you don’t have to buy cable, it is your choice. If I felt I could afford it I would have it and pay the extra for Fox. I often don’t buy something I want because a part of it supports something I don’t want to support. Seems like your plan did offer fox and you don’t want it too but you choose to buy it anyway.

Look at that photo of Megyn, she looks hot and trashy.

Ajolily said:
I don’t pay a cable bill and the last time I looked into using one the plan I looked into had to pay extra for Fox and that is one reason I choose to not get the plan. Difference is you don’t have to buy cable, it is your choice. If I felt I could afford it I would have it and pay the extra for Fox. I often don’t buy something I want because a part of it supports something I don’t want to support. Seems like your plan did offer fox and you don’t want it too but you choose to buy it anyway.

“Choose” not to pay Fox? Impossible unless you do not care for sports and American culture.

Oh, its just a few dollars. And then watching all those Fox comercials. What does it do to your mind and wallet?

valkyrie101 said:
“Choose” not to pay Fox? Impossible unless you do not care for sports and American culture.

Still your choice.

Not really, for the stated reason. And I suppose it is a choice to go for that necessary medical care?

Fox News: Unfair and Mentally Unbalanced(atleast their viewers are).

The three people you mentioned probably employ more people at a good wage than any of your union buddies. If they don’t do their job , they get fired.NOT made superintendent of schools.

Hey Butchbarb, did you miss the statements from Gates and Buffet ? They both publicly stated that they thought they should pay a bigger per cent of their income in taxes as they have much more than the rest of us have. How dare they think in such a way that may help those less fortunate than they are. Geez, they must be big time socialist, ya think?

When asked a direct question, Mr.Langyel deflects it. That should be your first clue that this clown is not going to be upfront with the truth. When asked a second time, more deflection. When asked about the implication of fraud, more deflection. And then this clown actually suggest that her question is not the real question? Unbelievable! This clown couldn’t shake a talking point if the truth sounded better!

Yes,, that is how they do it over there at Faux News, Megan asks questions to spin the story she wants Faux Noise lemmings to see and hear. Then she cuts them off before they have a chance to make a cogent argument. Yup, that’s how it’s done at the Fox.