They all seem so crazy… however Perry is right in this circumstance..

Who is the government to tell me that my kid can’t give someone else’s the Measles?

GOOGLE:Santorum

They all are crazy.

Man they jump on Perry on immigration. There is no way the tea baggers will elect Perry with his attitude on immigration.

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NO EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT LEGISLATE!!

Perry RIP…

 Of course he’s the most realistic on the issue but why would they want to be realistic lol. Did you see them cheer when Ron Paul basically said let the guy die in a coma without health insurance? Wow that was amazing.

Michele Bachmann is not relavent anymore. She is now at 4% in todays GOP poll . Bat shit crazy just isn’t going to sell in 2012.

Earth to non Rick Perry debate particiants, all vaccines are government mandated in tis country.

Your son or daughter cannot enter school or try out for sports without proof of up todate vaccinations.

The HPV vaccine reducing cervical cancer is a good thing.

Santorum & Bachmann are averse to the sexual aspect of this desease and are not being honest in their actual motives for piling on.

Not to mention Perry is without even breaking a sweat kicking all 2012 hopefuls, including Obama’s ass ” ten ways from Sunday”. 

the establishment is trying to take perry out to leave the door open for romney

Even Wolf Blitzer had to point out the boos received by Perry for an answer on tuition to illegals.

 I know. Perry is gonna have to explain this for the next month.

You words are twisted and make no sense.  You want no executive orders that legislate, yet Obama has done that more than any president.  He is nearly a dictator.  Surely you jest.

There is a decent justification for pretty much any act of tyranny. As some point morals need to come into play. I can’t believe any American would support this kind of policy.

All vaccines are ordered by the government.  You are a fool if you think this is over.

Good luck with that!! Bahahaha

Wow. You prove the old adage that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

you don’t even have a real name, so who cares what you think ?: )

Bachmann refuses to mention that teenage boys and girls are gonna have sex.

Perry did just fine; he admitted he made a mistake…a far cry more than most politicians would ever do.  Obama for example, would never admit a mistake, and his media sychophants would never admit one either.

Your rhetoric clearly indicates your party affiliation.  Using negative connotations for a group of people will not alter that fact that your president’s about as popular as hip-hop at a conservative party.  He was for educating those who already live here, especially at this time since the FEDS (Obama) won’t close the border.  He said clearly that he was for securing the border.  Perhaps a little listening is in order.

So do they all agree that I don’t need car insurance? What a wild west they imagine.

no alcarrie. He made a huge mistake. He’s advocating paying for illegal immigrants college education. Thats going to kill him. The border security thing was him trying to deflect. They are all for border security big deal. So is Obama he’s increased border patrol by 100%. Perry was advocating hiring even more federal workers for border security. Great way to reduce the size of federal government lol

I know did you catch that? Bachman said that no state could make people pay mandatory insurance on anything and that it was unconstitutional!

“morning after abortion pill” are you serious bro?

only 90 year old people are gonna believe that. the rest are gonna giggle.

When did Bachmann ever care about Drug mandates. EVER?

Wow, this stuff is great! These crazy people get crazier when they debate amongst themselves. Perry was obviously pushed by Merck to do something that was way beyond early childhood vaccinations. From all accounts this type of vaccine is not 100% safe and many experts have questioned its validity. Mr. Pro-Life, pro death penalty Perry didn’t mention that over 25% of Texans have no health insurance at all compared to say Massachusetts which has Romneycare and 95% of its population has coverage. Bachmann than goes off about the morning after pill which is safe and effective, but, lordy, all those 2-3 day old fetuses destroyed. And you rightwingers would have these backward people running our country. You must be crazy, too.

He is arguing for IN-STATE tuition- not free.  If an illegal immigrant can be carried accross the border as a kid, learn english, grow up in a low income househould, get good enough grades to get into college, and afford IN-STATE tuition… then by all means let them go to college.  Are we talking about… what… 5 kids a year tops?  God forbid they actually get an education and a job that actually pays income taxes!

Actually, that is a lie.  I can fill out an exemption form that says my kid can’t get vaccinations due to religious or personal reasons–I do it every year.  HPV Vaccines are DANGEROUS—Perry is in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies—that’s all his “executive order” was about–not saving young girls from cancer.  Many of those young girls who were forced to have that vaccine will become sterile or endure major health issues due to gardasil.  There is no way in hell that Perry is going to even come CLOSE to beating Obama.  Are you a shill for Perry, the Tea Party or the pharmaceutical company?

if he’s arguing for that JOHN he’s arguing that they are eligible for  govt grants and govt sponsored low interest loans! You are spinning my friend. What if the kid comes across when he’s 16? Or 17? You guys are back peddling so fast on this its hilarious.

if he’s arguing for that JOHN he’s arguing that they are eligible for  govt grants and govt sponsored low interest loans! You are spinning my friend. What if the kid comes across when he’s 16? Or 17? You guys are back peddling so fast on this its hilarious.

guess you got kicked out of mensa. driving is a privilege and to be granted that privilege you need to carry auto insurance. your analogy only works if you have to carry auto insurance and you don’t own or drive a car, idiot.

driving is a privilege and to be granted that privilege you need to carry auto insurance. your analogy only works if you have to carry auto insurance and you don’t own or drive a car, idiot.

Haha it seems the liberals are obsessed. Look at all the liberal comments in this thread. Wowsa.

Haha it seems the liberals are obsessed. Look at all the liberal comments in this thread. Wowsa.

Its awesome its like watching all of batmans greatest foes on stage at once! 

Thats not what she said check it out dude check it out. And regardless its still the government MANDATING insurance on someone. 

what proof do you have that he would never make a mistake? oh wait. you have none.

LOLZ coward.

you’re afraid to show proof!

a great many women use the morning after pill because it regulates a woman’s cycle fairly straight forward like. wether or not they’re gonna have sex is irrelivant.

why are you a coward with no balls? is it because your balls were shot off by your fellow soldiers?

How many 16 year olds come across the border, get a job, learn english, attend highschool, and get good enough grades to get into college?  That just doesn’t happen.  If they did they would have to be a freaking hardworking genius.  We WANT those kind of people here.

Quite a limited view of freedom you have there Jbubble.  Only a red bellied comuniss’ would proclaim my God given right to operate a motor vehicle as a “privilege”.  What other “privilege’s” should I carefully await for the government to allow?  Well, I refute your effort to create an all expansive state apparatus that controls my private locomotion.  Go back to Russia Jbubble.  I’m an American and we don’t take kindly to folks talkin’ out their butts and claiming it’s the wind.    

Obama’s record is a mistake.

Game.Set.Match.

Instead, its should be It’s…same with the second its…

Batman’s not Batmans….

I have no clue what you’re smoking. I thought the debate was hilarious.

You’ve been reported. I don’t appreciate sexist remarks.

You are the biggest prude on this board lol. I love ya. I will give you 10 minutes before you get mad report someone and get offended, then leave:)

 How much you wanna bet that has happened JOHN? How much you wanna bet?

i dont get the opposition to perry’s vaccine mandate…i seriously don’t.

You call it prude; I call it classy. Difference of opinion.

rights don’t need a license you twat…

John  are you saying you want smart illegal immigrants but not average or dumb ones? Im so confused so its ok to be illegal and break the law if you are smart? But if you are a maid in a hotel then deport their ass? Wow this is an interesting perspective.

i find your cognitive skills severely lacking…

I find your rationalizations humorous:)

Then why you tryin a claim I need a license to practice my rights Jbubble?  Oh I get cha now… you still pretendin to be baby Stalin and put da gubmint tween me and my God given ability to act as God and Adam Smith saw fit.  I need a license to pack my pistol Mr. Lenin?  I know your type… weasel words lead to weasel deeds….me… I prefer to deal with a man… stinkin’ comuniss’ ferret.

I’m saying this hatred for illegal immigrants is just a scapegoat in a bad economy.  Illegals pay sales and property taxes (through rent).  Some are even assigned ESNs by the IRS to pay federal income taxes (I was a tax examiner back in the day and was surprised how common this was).  Most are just hard working people looking for a better life.  And having grown up in Texas I can attest to the values that Mexicans bring to the table and how fast they assimilate to American culture.   

Liberty issue.

but he said you could opt out if you want.

Well thats great! Good luck convincing your tea party friends of that lol

That’s mandated. Hence, the argument of opting-in.

Same philosophy of privatizing SS….personal bank accounts that you opt-into.

Dude – Insideguy apparently doesn’t get the concept that you can take a bus or ride a bike to destinations. Don’t try talking sense with Inside.

your mom made a mistake!

GAME OVER little boy

i guess i see the argument. just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.

he’s one of the biggest cowards on this board. all beak. “in the name of free speech” bawk bavwk bawkawk!

bawk bawk bawkawk! bawk bawk bawkawk!?

Why are you a coward? why should anyone believe what you say to be anything close to truth when you won’t even put your real name beside it?

bawk bawk bawkawk! bawk bawk bawkawk!

your ebonics is perfect, hope sickle cell doesn’t get ya…

I believe both Ron Paul and Rick Perry share my views on illegal immigration.  They are the two highest polling Tea Party candidates.

Inside is so dumb… He don’t need no car when he can get him a big turtle… What with a saddle and all. He don’t need no gun, just a big stick with some of them web worms on the end. The gubmint can even tell him not to spawn no little kin cause he can always rustle up a muskrat to raise up.

WCinWI  dude i get it apparently your boy Romney and Bachman don’t. Listen to what they say then get back to me.

i believe that this was a tea party debate, and they booed the crap out of Perrys argument.

That ain’t no bionics jbubble… That there southern gentlmen.

yet the applaude state funded executions, that’s odd don’t you think?

they must have read the posts by me and fed up in fla last week.

My god!!! Government cannot tell you to vaccinate!!!  That is up to the individual!!  Boy Government is bad! 

Unless your gay, then the government can tell you that you can’t marry.

Also we applaud executions.  Because liberty means state sponsored executions.  And we know that no innocent man (or woman) ever gets executed because the courts don’t make mistakes.  I will go on record and say that no innocent man has ever been executed. Why? Cause I believe in Jesus. 

 Whats crazy is they wont LISTEN to what Bachman said its right there on tape.

I want me some mumps I miss my mumps

It’s a Ponzi scheme.

and wall street isn’t?

huh? vaccines are ponzi schemes? i think you used your copy and paste right wing talking points on the wrong comment.

huh? vaccines are ponzi schemes? i think you used your copy and paste right wing talking points on the wrong comment.

this vaccination is utterly essential……and again……the people in that crowd
are f*cking crazy!!!!!

i actually agree with perry on this matter. wow. 

not a single contender mentioned that HPV can cause cervical cancer in women

in fact, it’s one of the most common forms of cancer in women

Another Big Govt guy. 

good point

How is morning after an abortion pill, shouldn’t be there a fetus before you an call it an abortion. And the morons there were hearing her on, these guys reveling in their ignorance is just shameful. 

A hand full of people booing at a “CNN Tea Party Debate” does not trump all the current scientific polling that says the Tea Party supports Rick Perry and Ron Paul the most.  You do believe in science?

I don’t believe you. Please supply the name of your state here along with the county health department phone number.

The vaccine isn’t just to pretect your child, it protects everyone else also. 

I live in New Jersey and years back you could pass on one vaccine due to the raging mercury/autism debate, but that changed and my daughter was not permitted to start the next school year without it.that was 6 years ago.

Oh, that’s BS.  He had no choice but to admit he made a mistake.  What’s more telling is he says he “always errs on the side of life”, yet he erred on a vaccine that could actually kill young girls, or render them sterile.  His motives are NOT about protecting children, it’s about cold hard cash as it always is with Perry.  What…promote abstinence out of one side of his mouth, and promote a STD-related vaccine on the other?

Errs on the side of life, my A$$.  How many executions so far? How many innocent people executed?

Amazing, yes. Appalling? Good Lord! What a cold, vile, vicious group of people are these Teapublicans! What a terrible reflection on our nation they are!

True, but she sure came closer to nailing Tollbooth than Willard has.

That is the key. Tollbooth is a wholly owned subsidiary of the same medical establishment that has given us the highest health care costs in the world.

Marriage does.

If you’re keeping your kids from being protected from disease — and thereby exposing their classmates to the same — you’re insane. You prove why the world would be so much better off without religion. It poisons everything.

Keep thinking that. And please nominate Perry. And just for good measure, pair him up with Palin or Bachmann or Santorum. It’s a dream ticket — for anyone who wants the president reelected.

Keep thinking that. And please nominate Perry. And just for good measure, pair him up with Palin or Bachmann or Santorum. It’s a dream ticket — for anyone who wants the president reelected.

They almost had an affair? Willard goes both ways? Who knew?

 Wcinwi is a female. Not a lady. She has no class.

Conservatives are not any better.

Someone forgets a apostrophe and you jump on them because you don’t agree with their point of view. Pretty weak!

You have no class. How would you know?

You made plenty of stupid remarks yourself!

Sharpo was the unknown Marx Brother.

I think Monty Python said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

they don’t care, darla.  This is, as you know, a way to score points with a base that is run by ministers who tell them this makes their kids more promiscuous.  This isn’t about cancer and the fact that Rick Perry runs away from one of the few intelligent policy decisions he has made is amazing. 

His immigration policies are also rather enlightened

Public health issue or are you unaware that children of non-crazy people have to have vaccinations to attend public school in the first place?

They are not in any possible way similar

Yeah, but come on, that was ridiculous.

Says a guy apparently named Sharpo?

Uh, did you hear them cheer at the idea that people should be left to die if they don’t buy health insurance?  Providing access to insurance in your state is NO way to get ahead in a loony debate of loons

Really?  Get a bunch of your friends together to yell Tea party slogans in the middle of what you call downtown and, when the cops are arresting for disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace, you tell them you didn’t need a government permit.

Better yet, start a radio station to broadcast your free speech rights and discover you need a license to broadcast.

Although we all appreciate your contribution of non sequitors and frothing rage, I would appreciate if you knew anything.

Greg, the difference between driving and health insurance is that one is being done at the State level and the other is being done at the Federal level.  In the end, since insurance markets affect us all, mandating health insurance will pass a Commerce Clause test, but it is not akin to driving with car insurance 

God, that JW is a racist

I had no problem with Perry’s Gardisil position when he signed it, but MY OWN PEDIATRICIAN advocated that my daughters have it, and she is practically a Christian Scientist when it comes to what she considers unnecessary medications. I don’t like that Perry did it by executive order, but that’s not a fatal flaw since he acknowledges that he was wrong (what a refreshing thing for a politician to admit). 

The immigration issue is the most difficult one. Perry’s right that you cannot simply put up a fence- the border is too long and the land mass is too big- we need a multi-pronged approach that includes boots on the ground, drones, an ENFORCED E-verify program, and a coordination between Homeland Security and Immigration. The problems of border security MUST be solved before you can even address illegal aliens who are ALREADY in the country. Reagan’s mistake when he got an amnesty program was to believe that the Democrats actually wanted to solve the problem rather than add “new Democrat voters” to the entitlement rolls.

Love your user name.

Gardasil is a 3-dose (injection) vaccine. As of 1 September 2009 (2009 -09-01)[update] there have been more than 26 million doses distributed in the United States, and there have been 15,037 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reports following the vaccination. Ninety-two percent were reports of events considered to be non-serious (e.g., fainting, pain and swelling at the injection site (arm), headache nausea and fever.As of 1 September 2009 (2009 -09-01)[update], there have been 44 U.S. reports of death among females who have received the vaccine.[ None of the 27 confirmed deaths of women and girls who had taken the vaccine were linked to the vaccine.Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS), a rare disorder that causes muscle weakness, has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil. There is no evidence suggesting that Gardasil causes or raises the risk of GBS. Additionally, there have been rare reports of blood clots forming in the heart, lungs and legs.As of 5 November 2009 (2009 -11-05)[update] the CDC continues to recommend Gardasil vaccination for the prevention of four types of HPV. Merck, the manufacturer of Gardasil, will continue to test women who have received the vaccine to determine the vaccine’s efficacy over a lifetim

And, weirdly, enough, as Perry pointed out, you could have filled out that form here too.

Because who doesn’t want their daughter to get cervical cancer.

As far as the danger of the vaccine goes, Jenny McCarthy, if that were true then trial lawyers would already own Merck

Uh, it will if it claims secession is cool and SS is a Ponzi scheme.  In other words, in the authoritarian party, they like their crazy from men

Wow, you start so well and then fall into gibberish. The President who can’t get Republicans to pass anything is a dictator?

The DREAM act at the Federal level makes their xenophobic heads explode.  All one of these people needs to do to Perry is point out that under his plan Juan Antonio Vargas could go to college and not be sent to the Philippines and their heads will explode

Yeah, weird, we tried at the Federal level and you folks went insane.  It’s nice someone can lean ya; too bad it’s too late

Ummm, ‘NO!”….as of last cout, it was 95…..under the prvious POTUS….291 according to the National Archives!

I was with a friend when her daughter, who has Downs, had a seizure after having a DPT. The baby’s grandfather was her pediatrician. I drove like a NASCAR driver to the hospital, with my friend holding the baby.Why did it happen? We never found out. My friend did not sue her father.

So I guess the illegals only starting coming here in 2008, when Obama took over eh? Arguing about illegals is futile anyway because in about 20 years non-whites and their children will run this country and there aint a damn thing white people can do about it…except maybe stop being so racist and xenophobic.

I don’t believe you either. Please supply the name of your state here along with the county health department phone number where they can confirm its against the law to not innoculate your child… 

Um, where’s the story about how the audience actually cheered the notion of letting the uninsured DIE from perfectly treatable conditions?  

Second time in less than a week that a GOP crowd has burst out into cheers about letting innocent people die.  How very Christian of them.

Why did it happen? We never found out….. No proof.There you go.

I call it “trying to eliminate people who make me look bad” (of which there are many of us).

It’s funny that your “class” never applies to racist, sexist, and R-rated language used by fellow conservatives…

MANDATING a vaccine for a non-contagious disease is a far different thing than making it available for those who want it but can’t afford it….

That’s because everybody already knows that HPV can cause cervical cancer.  It would be like saying the sky is blue. The issue is coercion — not whether vaccinating a teenager girl is a wise “choice.”

You know — choice. It’s my body — and all that….

Republicans don’t believe the government should be making their health care or spending decisions.

Democrats who believe in choice and “it’s my body” should also have concerns about civil liberties being violated.

Non-contagious disease….

Um, how exactly do you think HPV is contracted?  Demon possession? 

Did I really hear those words coming out of her mouth?  Did she even realize what she was saying?  Apparently Michele Bachman is “Pro-Choice” and against the government putting its “hands” on her daughters and telling them what they can or can’t do with their own bodies!

  What part of “mandatory” or “opt-out” do idiots like Bachmann not understand?  If a vaccination requirement has an “opt-out” provision, then it inherently CANNOT be legitimately described as “mandatory”.  No, I am NOT for Perry, but Bachmann deserves the low standing she has in the polls..

then how do you get it, hon? Hint, it’s a virus passed on by someone else

marriage isn’t a right. like when they kept you from marrying your 1st cousin…

did you forget the pain that caused you?

wow you don’t even have a clue what rights are…

you can exercise your 1st amendment rights without disturbing the peace.
i cant seem to find the “right to the airwaves” amendment, can you link it?

try again dipshit

The deliberate “ignorance” of some people never ceases to amaze me. Are some of you incapable of searching the internet for FACTS before making claims? www.thinktwice.com/laws.htm  The true facts on vaccination “requirements”. Very simple to look up.

Actually Tina_Tampa, President Obama has admitted to making mistakes in the past. Once again, someone who is apparently incapable of researching something before making false claims. 
http://www.abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/04/president-barack-obama-exclusive-concedes-senate-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-political/

You can’t assemble without a permit (generally) or were unaware part of the First Amendment is freedom of assembly?

Secondly, I pretty explicitly noted that would be an attempt to broadcast your thoughts. Never said it was in the Constitution; said it was a way to broadcast your exercising of those rights.

Though, being called a “dipshit” by a jackass who wouldn’t know what the Constitution said if it came up and showed him it commerce clause has been the most ironic part of my day

“You can’t assemble without a permit (generally)”

prove it.

man you are twisting so bad to try and make your arguments fit, i bet you could lick your own ass. typical libpussy…

Please try it and find out

HPV vaccine should not be mandatory. Isn’t there a better way to prevent HPV ?  It is not like other diseases such as polio, mums or measles. Making it mandatory, especially, at such a very young age does not make any sense, it is wrong. There is no religion playing here, just common sense.  This is scarier than the disease itself ! Please do not support such act in future. It is wrong. 

Your ignorance amazes and disgusts ME.  Do you just believe anything you read on the internet?  Try reading the disclaimer on the “thinktwice” website that you reference.
DISCLAIMER

* The
information contained within the Thinktwice Global Vaccine
Institute website is for educational and informational purposes only, and
is not to be construed as medical advice. Licensed health practitioners are
available for this purpose.
* The Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute has
endeavored to provide accurate and credible information. However, errors can
occur. Therefore, readers are urged to verify all of the data on this website.
* Some of the information presented on the Thinktwice
Global Vaccine Institute website may conflict with data presented
elsewhere. Therefore, readers are encouraged to remain circumspect and use
discretion when interpreting contradictory, complex or confusing concepts.
* The Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute is not
endorsed by pharmaceutical companies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the
FDA, CDC or any other federal, state or “official” organization. For official
information about vaccines, contact vaccine manufacturers, the FDA, CDC or World
Health Organization.Now, since you must not be too bright, let me explain it to you in simple words that you might be able to understand.  They are basically saying that they are not to be held responsible for anything on their website, and they are not approved by any the the nefarious (it means “bad”) official organizations like the World Health Organization. 

http://www.naturalnews.com/032997_mandatory_vaccines_public_schools.html  This is all documented and an easy read for those of you who get headaches doing so.