Meh. Whatever. Believing that you get your own planet is no crazier than believing that Noah went around collecting male and female mosquitoes, or believing that Jonah lived in the belly of a whale.

Harry Reid is also a Mormon.

……don’t forget the special underwear!

While I agree that many Mormon beliefs are silly, they’re no more silly that denying the existence of God. And both are far, far less troubling in an elected official than the belief that one can lessen a budget deficit by significantly increasing spending.

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perceptorii said:
While I agree that many Mormon beliefs are silly, they’re no more silly that denying the existence of God. And both are far, far less troubling in an elected official than the belief that one can lessen a budget deficit by significantly increasing spending.

Or sitting in the church of a hate-monger for 20+ years.

I think this is a Romney vs SocialCon Repub issue and not something Obama will be able to hurt Mitt with directly. The Dems can still gang up on Romney with this issue in the Primary though.

This line from the interview is the most disturbing IMHO: “[Romney] will talk issues and not religion and that is the ‘best case’ for his candidacy”. That was said like it is a bad thing- I wish all candidates would stick to just issues- I dont care about religion.

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Fact: Here is a Mormon moron.

Mormonism is on par with Scientology in my opinion… odd belief systems that lead me to question the rationality of the follower.

Mormonism may not fit neatly in mainstream Christianity, but Mormons are by far the nicest people on the planet. I remember a Mormon buddy of mine rode along with us down to a strip club in Virginia, a good two hour drive, then stayed in the car when we got there. He just came along because we were his friends. Sweet stand-up guys.

Ex-Mormon here. If you pulled the Book of Mormon out of mormonism, it would be a great thing. As for temple garments, it’s no different then wearing a cross. I couldn’t handle mormonism because of Joseph Smith…he introduced to many zany ideas, like the planet thing, which was a revelation to him. Anyhow, the church is filled with wonderful people who lead very righteous lives. You can mock them all you want…they simply don’t care.

Remember folks, we must tolerate and accept all religious beliefs. The ACLU and other left-wing groups have helped various religions (like Islam) get special “washing stations” install in schools and other areas, as a sign of fairness and respect.

Being open and respectful to all religious beliefs is very important.

Unless you’re a Mormon. The left hates those guys, so normal rules and ethics need not apply.

Having your own planet is largely speculative in Mormonism. We do believe in a concept called eternal progression that basically says that your personal growth does not end after death . I don’t think this is such an outlandish idea. What are we supposed to do just sit up in heaven and praise God? If so that is a pretty narcissistic god. Like any parent wouldn’t God want us to have and develop the same abilities that he has? Nobody knows where the garden of eden is so why is it outlandish to say it is in america? After all Adam and Eve lived there during the existence of Pangea when there was only one supercontinent. Later on in genesis it says the earth was split in the days of peleg. Genesis 10:25 says ” And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.” This is consistent with scientific evidence.

Shouldn’t it be mentioned that the “reporter” is actually a local conservative radio host? This guy Ben Ferguson is a self-proclaimed “young conservative.” Not sure why he’s doing local news, but it does explain the odd tone of the piece. Shouldn’t a site devoted to media coverage be aware of this?

Can you name the president who thinks that there are 57 states, or picked as his NCAA Champion a team that lost right off the bat? Or pronounces the word ‘Corpsmen’ as ‘Corpse-Men?’

Give us a hint.

I’m pretty sure that if I went out of the house every morning with a haircut like Ben Ferguson’s, I’d be pretty careful not to mock anyone.
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ChrisNH said:
Can you name the president who thinks that there are 57 states, or picked as his NCAA Champion a team that lost right off the bat? Or pronounces the word ‘Corpsmen’ as ‘Corpse-Men?’

Hey Chris. You can kvetch all you want, Obama’s still president. And will be for a while. By the way, where were you when Sarah Palin was mangling the English language and history and making flubs every time she opened her mouth?

Bill Cooke said:
Hey Chris. You can kvetch all you want, Obama’s still president. And will be for a while. By the way, where were you when Sarah Palin was mangling the English language and history and making flubs every time she opened her mouth?

I think that was the point. Where was the media for Obama’s mistakes? Yet, for Palin’s, they had extensive commentary.

Does Ben have any good Mohamed or Allah jokes?

perceptorii said:
While I agree that many Mormon beliefs are silly, they’re no more silly that denying the existence of God. And both are far, far less troubling in an elected official than the belief that one can lessen a budget deficit by significantly increasing spending.

So believing you can have infinite wives on your own planet near the physical personification of god which takes the form of a large blue cloud is just as silly as saying there is no evidence of god?

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I’m a Massachusetts Democrat, so not a Romney supporter, but to portray him as some kind of religious zealot/nutcase is over the top and completely uncalled for. Typical behavior shown by people who are ignorant and afraid–disgusting and un-American.

kvon said:
So believing you can have infinite wives on your own planet near the physical personification of god which takes the form of a large blue cloud is just as silly as saying there is no evidence of god?

Does it matter? At what point did the left decide there was a religious test people needed to pass before they could run for office?

Oh, that’s right… it was when Romney entered. Funny how they’ve ignored Reid’s beliefs.

artemisia60 said:
I’m a Massachusetts Democrat, so not a Romney supporter, but to portray him as some kind of religious zealot/nutcase is over the top and completely uncalled for. Typical behavior shown by people who are ignorant and afraid–disgusting and un-American.

Fact: You had to of voted for him at some point because he is the closest thing to a democrat there is other than calling himself a democrat.

Here’s how the media is going to use Romney’s religion against him to help reelect Obama. If you think the media lost all credibility in 2008, you haven’t seen anything yet.

During the primary, the media is going to try to damage Romney by making Mormonism into an “other” by claiming that the Christians in the Republican party won’t support a Mormon like Romney.

Then should Romney win the nomination, the media will indirectly paint Romney as a bigot by using his religion to ask him questions about the Mormon’s past stances on Blacks and Gays. Keep in mind how the media treated Obama’s 20+ years with Rev Wright’s anti-White bigot church. Juxtapose how the media handled that with they way they are going to attack Romney’s religion.

How ridiculous is the “religious test” the right routinely uses to choose acceptable candidates? Johnson, Carter and Clinton were members of acceptable religions and passed. How’d that work out for ya?

Brian Skinner said:
Having your own planet is largely speculative in Mormonism. We do believe in a concept called eternal progression that basically says that your personal growth does not end after death . I don’t think this is such an outlandish idea. What are we supposed to do just sit up in heaven and praise God? If so that is a pretty narcissistic god. Like any parent wouldn’t God want us to have and develop the same abilities that he has? Nobody knows where the garden of eden is so why is it outlandish to say it is in america? After all Adam and Eve lived there during the existence of Pangea when there was only one supercontinent. Later on in genesis it says the earth was split in the days of peleg. Genesis 10:25 says ” And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.” This is consistent with scientific evidence.

That’s interesting, Brian. I’ve often wondered about Mormon beliefs.

No, an agenda where we praised God for an eternity would not be narcissistic of God.

After all, He is the source of all goodness and perfection and the source of all SOURCE…

In praisin HIM, we praise everything that is lovely, true, honest, loving, good, mature, giving, etc. In praising HIM we declare goodness to be GOOD.

Understand too, that parents don’t want their children to look up to them, follow them, and trust them, simply because they have overweening egos. Parents wish their children to do all that FOR the good of their children.

WHO has the best interest of your children at heart? YOU. To the point of giving your life for them. Unless, you’re Casey Anthony, YOU wish your children to follow you BECAUSE you will protect and cherish them like NO one else.

God knows, it’s in the interest of His children to recognize His goodness. He knows that He’s the only source of anything in the universe and the thing by which all things obtain their reality.

God isn’t egoist. He’s a realist.

Wingo said:
How ridiculous is the “religious test” the right routinely uses to choose acceptable candidates? Johnson, Carter and Clinton were members of acceptable religions and passed. How’d that work out for ya?

Not perfectly, but just fine.

We do have our Constitution. We are America. We are Americans.

Fox really needs to take a bath going into the future. Before they know it, angry, white people will be outnumbered by tolerant minorities, the great bulk of whom are solid Democrats.

WillP said:
Fox really needs to take a bath going into the future. Before they know it, angry, white people will be outnumbered by tolerant minorities, the great bulk of whom are solid Democrats.

What in the hell are you talking about?

WillP said:
Before they know it, angry, white people will be outnumbered by tolerant minorities, the great bulk of whom are solid Democrats.

Oh, you mean the tolerant black minorities who almost killed a white transvestite while another black guy was telling them to run instead of helping the white girl because the Po-Po was on the way? Or, the tolerant black minorities who were threatening voters in 2008? Or, the tolerant black minorities who turn on their own race if they happen to be Conservative and not Liberal as they think they should be? Or, the tolerant Mexican minorities who demand “rights” in our country even if they are here illegally? The list goes on and on so spare us all with the “tolerant” crap.

kvon said:
So believing you can have infinite wives on your own planet near the physical personification of god which takes the form of a large blue cloud is just as silly as saying there is no evidence of god?

Also, do you save money changing your brakes pads today for $100 or waiting till the rotors are gone in 3 months and paying $500?

1.) Yes.

2.) I don’t save any money when I pay for someone else to fix the brakes in their own car, especially if I need to use a credit card to do it.

2012freedom said:
Oh, you mean the tolerant black minorities who almost killed a white transvestite while another black guy was telling them to run instead of helping the white girl because the Po-Po was on the way? Or, the tolerant black minorities who were threatening voters in 2008? Or, the tolerant black minorities who turn on their own race if they happen to be Conservative and not Liberal as they think they should be? Or, the tolerant Mexican minorities who demand “rights” in our country even if they are here illegally? The list goes on and on so spare us all with the “tolerant” crap.

Wow! someone has it in for Blacks. But, if you had the time to check data, a simple one, not too complex. You’d realize that the minority group poised to take over are the Latinos. Recent research suggests that Black and White population are not increasing in the same pace as the Latinos, Blacks due to abortion, whites due to not having kids to begin with.

Gash, wonder how you fell about your Black colleagues, chill out man. lol

OxyCon said:
Here’s how the media is going to use Romney’s religion against him to help reelect Obama. If you think the media lost all credibility in 2008, you haven’t seen anything yet.

During the primary, the media is going to try to damage Romney by making Mormonism into an “other” by claiming that the Christians in the Republican party won’t support a Mormon like Romney.

Then should Romney win the nomination, the media will indirectly paint Romney as a bigot by using his religion to ask him questions about the Mormon’s past stances on Blacks and Gays. Keep in mind how the media treated Obama’s 20+ years with Rev Wright’s anti-White bigot church. Juxtapose how the media handled that with they way they are going to attack Romney’s religion.

You’re right, OxyCon. My three very LIBERAL young adult offspring, grew up knowing and being friends with Mormons, Jews, Catholics, Hindus, Catholics, Christian Scientists, Evangelicals, Buddhists, Protestants and even one Zorastrian- their school had a broad range of students. They were good friends with several Mormon girls, and religion simply was not an issue.

However, when Romney began to run in 2007, they ALL said very prejudiced things about Mormons- behavior that really surprised me. They kept saying, “Mom, you just don’t know about Mormonism.” (I will admit that I do not know much about the religion, but the Mormons I know personally are some of the best, most admirable people I’ve encountered.) None of my children would even consider Romney simply because he’s Mormon.

I’ve been perplexed by their attitude, until I realized that the television shows that the “young people” so like- South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Jon Stewart, Colbert, etc.- are the source of the prejudice against Mormons amongst the “young people.” How pathetic that a CARTOON show, like South Park, is the source of such illogical prejudice. The MSM has done a good job of ignoring Rev. Wright and Black Liberation Theology and pretending that Obama never heard a word over twenty years in that hate-filled environment, while they bash Romney for being Mormon.

Reminds me of a scene from Cheers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25PGOODs99o

skyfet said:
Wow! someone has it in for Blacks. But, if you had the time to check data, a simple one, not too complex. You’d realize that the minority group poised to take over are the Latinos. Recent research suggests that Black and White population are not increasing in the same pace as the Latinos, Blacks due to abortion, whites due to not having kids to begin with.
Gash, wonder how you fell about your Black colleagues, chill out man. lol

Gee…I am SOOOO surprised you were able to link it all back to having it in for the blacks. After all, that is the only fall back position that Liberals have.

What a waste of airtime and a disservice to their viewers. This too shall pass.

That network going to tell watermelon jokes about Herman Cain next?

Maybe ask if they think Michelle Bachmann will hit the nuclear button cuz she’s on her period?

Maybe talk about Newt Gingrich plans to start burning at the stake Americans by the hundreds? Har har!

Nothing new, just more “tolerant” Liberals doing what they do best – degrading everyone not like them.

The “Garden of Eden” may be in Missouri, but Hell is the RNC headquarters. And the “Devil” is Karl Rove. Hey nobody’s “demonizing” here. It’s just that the truth hurts.

ImNotBlue said:
Unless you’re a Mormon. The left hates those guys, so normal rules and ethics need not apply.

How are you completely ignoring that it is a right wingnut FoxNews regular that is the one giving Romney a hard time for being a Mormon?

I think every comment you’ve made here is spinning it on the left.

I also can’t believe how the media didn’t cover Obamoa’s failed NCAA picks, leftest communist agenda media!

So, with CONS: it’s ok to pick on the Muslim religion and print shirts that “joke” “Everything I learned about Muslim I learned on 9/11″, but asking about interplanetary rapture is FORBIDDEN.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TYPICAL CON HYPOCRISY

I just wanna know how JESUS BROUGHT THE HORSIES TO NORTH AMERICA

I am continually stunned at how little people know or understand. Of course it is relevant that there are two Mormons running for President. These people thinking they get there own planet etc is but the tip of the iceberg of stupidity.

The book of Mormon is provable nonsense, with countless items included that could not possibly in the USA in the timeframe under discussions.Massive civilization with massive battles with not one shred of archeoligical evidence. Horses, Chariots, metals, fruits – whilst in the Middle east – were not in North America at that time. (horse being introduced by the Spanish around 1500. Joseph Smith was a convicted fraud. Further, he at the time “translated” Egyptian Brass rubbings – but only around 1950 when people learned the true tranlations – was it once again proved that Joseph Smith was a fraud.

The word from God on those disappearing golf tablets? – well how come the word God needs to be constantly changed to be politically acceptable – you see around 1990 Mormons figured that perhaps Balck people were not evil – how come God got that one wrong?

If you are a Mormon or are happy to vote for a Mormon – it is simply a vote for Stupidity. The wonderfull thing about Mormonis is that it is about the only Religion that is provablly false.

All voters are responsible for understanding what they are voting for.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
You’re right, OxyCon. My three very LIBERAL young adult offspring, grew up knowing and being friends with Mormons, Jews, Catholics, Hindus, Catholics, Christian Scientists, Evangelicals, Buddhists, Protestants and even one Zorastrian- their school had a broad range of students. They were good friends with several Mormon girls, and religion simply was not an issue.

However, when Romney began to run in 2007, they ALL said very prejudiced things about Mormons- behavior that really surprised me. They kept saying, “Mom, you just don’t know about Mormonism.” (I will admit that I do not know much about the religion, but the Mormons I know personally are some of the best, most admirable people I’ve encountered.) None of my children would even consider Romney simply because he’s Mormon.

I’ve been perplexed by their attitude, until I realized that the television shows that the “young people” so like- South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Jon Stewart, Colbert, etc.- are the source of the prejudice against Mormons amongst the “young people.” How pathetic that a CARTOON show, like South Park, is the source of such illogical prejudice. The MSM has done a good job of ignoring Rev. Wright and Black Liberation Theology and pretending that Obama never heard a word over twenty years in that hate-filled environment, while they bash Romney for being Mormon.

Clearly you’ve never watched South Park, don’t know those guys’ political views (which you’d be surprised how similar to a real libertarian they are, instead of this Bagger nonsense) nor are you familiar with the message of their hit musical The Book Of Mormon.

Like most of the commenters here; you should probably do your homework before you make generalizations that make you look uninformed.

I was making the point a couple weeks ago that it will most likely not be the democrats who give Romney a hard time about his religion, but one or more of the many republicans candidates that will try to take down the frontrunner. And as far as religion being on the table for candidates: It certainly was for Obama, who among other things had to quit his church, repudiate his minister, and confirm that he was not Islamic to boot.

IMHO Mormonism is most closely akin to Scientology… both are distinctly American creations that demand an elevated level of credulity. The human element is so clearly smeared across the divine supposition.

“In 1856, hundreds of Saints starved and froze to death on their way from the Midwest to Utah because Young was economizing on oxen, leaving the migrants to act as their own pack animals. The next year saw the Mountain Meadow massacre, where, in a fantastic act of savagery, Mormons slaughtered 120 wealthy Arkansas emigrants — men, women and children — and blamed the Paiute Indians. Through the nineteenth century (and still today in some fringe sects) 12- and 13-year-old girls were “married” or “sealed” to men 40 years their senior, following the example of leaders Smith and Young. Today’s squeaky-clean, no-caffeine-drinking, family-loving Mormon seems at least partly compensational for this dark history. ”

http://lareviewofbooks.org/post/7114122761/magicland

Hey are there any “Great Moments In Journalism: Local News Segment Mocks Keith Ellison’s Islamic Faith?

Really great, eh DemoKKKrats?

Cecelia said:
That’s interesting, Brian. I’ve often wondered about Mormon beliefs.

No, an agenda where we praised God for an eternity would not be narcissistic of God.

After all, He is the source of all goodness and perfection and the source of all SOURCE…

In praisin HIM, we praise everything that is lovely, true, honest, loving, good, mature, giving, etc. In praising HIM we declare goodness to be GOOD.

Understand too, that parents don’t want their children to look up to them, follow them, and trust them, simply because they have overweening egos. Parents wish their children to do all that FOR the good of their children.

WHO has the best interest of your children at heart? YOU. To the point of giving your life for them. Unless, you’re Casey Anthony, YOU wish your children to follow you BECAUSE you will protect and cherish them like NO one else.

God knows, it’s in the interest of His children to recognize His goodness. He knows that He’s the only source of anything in the universe and the thing by which all things obtain their reality.

God isn’t egoist. He’s a realist.

And God is one more thing: imaginary.

Nacho said:
How are you completely ignoring that it is a right wingnut FoxNews regular that is the one giving Romney a hard time for being a Mormon?

Because (1) he’s not a regular, (2) it doesn’t matter because I can criticize FNC and not feel bad about it, (3) my greater point was how the left has demonized Mormonism for a while now, especially as a way to attack Beck.

I think every comment you’ve made here is spinning it on the left.

Well, my point was about the intolerant attitude of the left towards Mormons… so… yes?

I also can’t believe how the media didn’t cover Obamoa’s failed NCAA picks, leftest communist agenda media!

You know that if a Republican had made the same picks, there would have been more than a few commentators who said, “Can’t they get anything right?” Personally, I don’t care one way or another.

Bill Huggins said:
So, with CONS: it’s ok to pick on the Muslim religion and print shirts that “joke” “Everything I learned about Muslim I learned on 9/11″, but asking about interplanetary rapture is FORBIDDEN.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TYPICAL CON HYPOCRISY

I just wanna know how JESUS BROUGHT THE HORSIES TO NORTH AMERICA

You realize that you could reverse what you just said, right? With Liberals it’s okay to pick on Mormons, and insult their religion… but you’re a bigot if you say anything about Islam or Muslims.

How do you defend that hypocrisy?

ImNotBlue said:
How do you defend that hypocrisy?

Wright? Obama is a Muslim? Hypocrisy? Sure.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
How pathetic that a CARTOON show, like South Park, is the source of such illogical prejudice.

for over a decade now, “south park” has been a consistently stellar source of social commentary, sparing no particular ideologies in their scathing satire… no one is more spot on in their targeting of those deserving ridicule than parker and stone, the creators, and the last few seasons have been nothing short of supurb… there’s even a book available called “south park conservatism”, which is helpful for people who can’t see the forest for the trees, or in their case, the commentary for the profanity…

frank zappa had a similar dilemma, as most people dismissed him as profane and juvenile… but the fact is zappa was one of the best guitarists ever, and quite simply the greatest american composer in the history of ever…

Mormonism is to Raëlism what Raëlism is to Scientology what Scientology is to Christianity etc….

There is no non-corporeal state, so stop deluding yourselves.

I’m not a big fan of Mormonism but this Ferguson guy is a shmuck.

I would much rather the subject of religion never came up at all. When we require politicians to stand up and declare a camping buddy close relationship with Jesus, there are two possible outcomes. They either lie about it, which is disturbing, or they actually do believe it, which is equally disturbing.

And when you consider what politics actually is (compromises, backstabbing, taking credit for stuff you had nothing to do with, torpedoing the legislation of somebody because he beat you at golf five months ago, grubbing around ceaselessly for money so you can run again,) it’s about the least Christian activity going.

christianity makes so much more sense than mormonism:

believing a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
for over a decade now, “south park” has been a consistently stellar source of social commentary, sparing no particular ideologies in their scathing satire… no one is more spot on in their targeting of those deserving ridicule than parker and stone, the creators, and the last few seasons have been nothing short of supurb… there’s even a book available called “south park conservatism”, which is helpful for people who can’t see the forest for the trees, or in their case, the commentary for the profanity…

frank zappa had a similar dilemma, as most people dismissed him as profane and juvenile… but the fact is zappa was one of the best guitarists ever, and quite simply the greatest american composer in the history of ever…

MMM, I don’t watch “South Park”- or the Simpsons or Colbert or Jon Stewart, etc.- and I AM from back in the day when Johnny Carson did not have to say a word, but merely lift his eyebrows, to make everyone roar with laughter about Ed Ames’ tomahawk throw. I DO find most of what the kids like to be crude, so I elect not to watch.

Am I INCORRECT that Parker and Stone have continually mocked Mormons? If so, I am happy to withdraw my criticism of that show. I cannot explain where three different young adults, educated at colleges as far removed from one another as Princeton/Boston to Palo Alto came to the same conclusion regarding Mormons, unless it was the influence of television or NPR (which all three listen to). If not “South Park” (and certainly, no discussion of Mormonism from the home, one way or another), then where does the unreasonable dislike of Mormonism come from?

NyQuill said:
I would much rather the subject of religion never came up at all. When we require politicians to stand up and declare a camping buddy close relationship with Jesus, there are two possible outcomes. They either lie about it, which is disturbing, or they actually do believe it, which is equally disturbing. And when you consider what politics actually is (compromises, backstabbing, taking credit for stuff you had nothing to do with, torpedoing the legislation of somebody because he beat you at golf five months ago, grubbing around ceaselessly for money so you can run again,) it’s about the least Christian activity going.

So you are OK if the President of the United States Insisted on worshipping a Lamp post because he was amazed that it gave out light. (Even though this lampost was connected to the grid.) Of course Religion matters – especially when such Religion is provable crap, invented by a bigoted fraud. For Gods sake do your research before electing delusional idiots a s President.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
I AM from back in the day when Johnny Carson did not have to say a word, but merely lift his eyebrows, to make everyone roar with laughter about Ed Ames’ tomahawk throw. I DO find most of what the kids like to be crude, so I elect not to watch.

i don’t think it was carson’s eyebrow lift so much as the placement of the tomahawk that elicited the roar of laughter… some might still find a tomahawk to the nads somewhat crude…

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Am I INCORRECT that Parker and Stone have continually mocked Mormons?

probably not… i’ve never seen a broadway play, therefor i have not seen “the book of mormon”… as for “south park”, i can’t recall them ever mocking mormons, but i would be surprised if they managed to go over the decade they’ve been on the air without mocking mormons at least once… but they are equal opportunity mockers and there’s no reason religious entities should get a pass…

TillieGlockenspiel said:
I cannot explain where three different young adults, educated at colleges as far removed from one another as Princeton/Boston to Palo Alto came to the same conclusion regarding Mormons, unless it was the influence of television or NPR (which all three listen to). If not “South Park” (and certainly, no discussion of Mormonism from the home, one way or another), then where does the unreasonable dislike of Mormonism come from?

i think dr phil or dr laura probably ought to field this one… i’m not qualified to explain your failing as a parent…

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
christianity makes so much more sense than mormonism:

believing a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…

This is coming from a person who is not a Mormon, but knows many of them. I think that the post above illustrates an important point. Many Christians learn about Mormonism from literature or presentations that are specifically designed to make it seem like a strange, evil, cult-like religion. The reality of the situation is that almost any religion can be lampooned in this fashion as the poster above has shown. There is nothing more powerful than a well crafted word designed to make people feel a certain way.

I would advise all who think they understand the Mormon faith – especially the Conservative Christian crowd (I have seen at least 10 fallacious statements in these comments) to simply think of how somebody with a little imagination could describe your religion and make it sound strange. This is coming from somebody who is not a Mormon, but knows many of them.

It is very easy to disregard something by trying to make it seem scary, un-human etc, This is the art of Propaganda. I can tell you from a solid study of mainstream Christianity, and Mormonism there are far, far more things in common than different. I would venture to say that Mormons who live by their teachings would easily apply for all the requirements to be saved in a “Christian” Church.

As for the Southpark and BOM on broadway things; I haven’t seen the Broadway show yet (I do have tickets!) But while the southpark guys obviously think that Mormons have some strange beliefs, they seem to show a certain respect for the actual people.

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
i don’t think it was carson’s eyebrow lift so much as the placement of the tomahawk that elicited the roar of laughter… some might still find a tomahawk to the nads somewhat crude…

probably not… i’ve never seen a broadway play, therefor i have not seen “the book of mormon”… as for “south park”, i can’t recall them ever mocking mormons, but i would be surprised if they managed to go over the decade they’ve been on the air without mocking mormons at least once… but they are equal opportunity mockers and there’s no reason religious entities should get a pass…

i think dr phil or dr laura probably ought to field this one… i’m not qualified to explain your failing as a parent…

I was asking a serious question, since I am not a devotee of the Parker/Stone/Stewart/Colbert brand of humor. And, actually, it was Carson’s deadpan that made the Ed Ames tomahawk throw so hilarious- humor used to leave much more to the imagination. Even Carlin was not the vicious asshat that “comedians” think they are today. Cruel, crude and vicious “humor” seems to be the norm- which tells me society has reached new lows.

Obviously, you are a nasty piece of work. I hope you aren’t a parent and if you are or become one, will remember that “what goes around, comes around.”

End of conversation. Libs are just such angry, small-minded people, but pretend to be just the opposite.

All I can say is that if I was a jeernalist, I’d rather commit ritual suicide than look in the mirror every morning confronted yet again with what I do for a living.

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TillieGlockenspiel said:
Cruel, crude and vicious “humor” seems to be the norm- which tells me society has reached new lows.

yeah, don rickles, lenny bruce, redd foxx and slappy white were such wholesome, family oriented entertainment back in the 60′s… and, my god, wtf was up with moms mabley?…

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Obviously, you are a nasty piece of work. I hope you aren’t a parent and if you are or become one, will remember that “what goes around, comes around.”

i’m the proud parent of a 25 year old IT professional, already much more accomplished than i’ll ever be… i apologize for the parenting skills remark, i was just kidding and should have qualified it as such…

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Libs are just such angry, small-minded people, but pretend to be just the opposite.

yes, they are and do… i think we’ve achieved common ground here… but i hope you’re not confusing a fellow houstonian for a liberal because i like to consider myself a reagan conservative, minus the antiquated social baggage hang-ups…

dtcomposer said:
It is very easy to disregard something by trying to make it seem scary, un-human etc, This is the art of Propaganda. I can tell you from a solid study of mainstream Christianity, and Mormonism there are far, far more things in common than different. I would venture to say that Mormons who live by their teachings would easily apply for all the requirements to be saved in a “Christian” Church.

“christianity is stupid”
negativland

dbeall said:
I am continually stunned at how little people know or understand. Of course it is relevant that there are two Mormons running for President. These people thinking they get there own planet etc is but the tip of the iceberg of stupidity.

The book of Mormon is provable nonsense, with countless items included that could not possibly in the USA in the timeframe under discussions.Massive civilization with massive battles with not one shred of archeoligical evidence. Horses, Chariots, metals, fruits – whilst in the Middle east – were not in North America at that time. (horse being introduced by the Spanish around 1500. Joseph Smith was a convicted fraud. Further, he at the time “translated” Egyptian Brass rubbings – but only around 1950 when people learned the true tranlations – was it once again proved that Joseph Smith was a fraud.

The word from God on those disappearing golf tablets? – well how come the word God needs to be constantly changed to be politically acceptable – you see around 1990 Mormons figured that perhaps Balck people were not evil – how come God got that one wrong?

If you are a Mormon or are happy to vote for a Mormon – it is simply a vote for Stupidity. The wonderfull thing about Mormonis is that it is about the only Religion that is provablly false.

All voters are responsible for understanding what they are voting for.

This is, hands down, the most ignorant comment I’ve seen in this thread. I’m at a loss for words to describe how pathetic this is.

Where do you get the idea that Joseph Smith had “Egyptian brass rubbings”? And what “true translations” did people discover in 1950? You’re making this stuff up! Joseph Smith found metal plates that “had the appearance of gold” which were engraved with characters which were described as “reformed Egyptian” (apparently Hebrew written in a type of cursive, perhaps demotic, Egyptian characters). I have no idea what you are referring to with your “true translations” comment.

Regarding your statements about “archaeological evidence” — these issues are more complicated than you make them out to be. A simple Google search can show you evidence that there were horses native to the Americas thousands of years before the Spanish came. There is very little known about the ancient history of the Americas and there has been great research done supporting the plausibility of the cultural/historical claims of the Book of Mormon. No evidence for massive civilizations and massive battles? Ever heard of the Mayans, Aztecs, Incas? The descriptions in the Book of Mormon of ancient peoples in the Americas fits what we know about these ancient Mesoamerican cultures in many ways.

“Disappearing golf tablets” — that just made me laugh. I suppose you meant “gold tablets”, but the typo just added to the ridiculousness of your comment.

Mormon 1990 discovery that Black people aren’t evil — again, in your eagerness to slander, you’re incredibly inaccurate. In 1978, the Mormon church extended the right to hold the Priesthood to all male members, regardless of race or color.

My final remark: where do you get off claiming that Mormonism is about the only religion that’s “provablly false” [sic]? How is it more so than any other religion? It’s claims are not necessarily more unbelievable than those of any other religion. Can you prove that Jesus was resurrected, that Moses talked to God on Sinai or that Mohammed received visitations from the angel Gabriel? No, these things are accepted by believers as a matter of faith. Why is it more difficult to believe that Joseph Smith had visions similar to those recorded in the Bible? For millions of people throughout the world, Joseph Smith was a modern prophet and taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a way that leads to happiness in this life and the next.

kvon said:
So believing you can have infinite wives on your own planet near the physical personification of god which takes the form of a large blue cloud is just as silly as saying there is no evidence of god?

Also, do you save money changing your brakes pads today for $100 or waiting till the rotors are gone in 3 months and paying $500?

Large blue cloud? where did that come from?

Can anyone on the left tell me why it’s okay to mock Mormons, but not Muslims?

What’s the difference?

ImNotBlue said:
Can anyone on the left tell me why it’s okay to mock Mormons, but not Muslims? What’s the difference?

Um, yes, or vice versa.

@ Val

I’m good with either. Mock them all, or mock none.

MASSMURDERMEDIA says:
christianity makes so much more sense than mormonism:

believing a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…

that’s funny right there, I don’t cae who ya are…….{well if you’re a Christian you may not think it’s funny}

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
christianity makes so much more sense than mormonism:

believing a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree…

You’re a piece of work now aren’t you? Perhaps you being an atheist has made your moral code disappear also. The nasty things you say indicate that perhaps a short course in etiquette might be in order – since we can’t ask you abide by the ten commandments.

Ben Ferguson Should be on CNN not FOX Can you imagine if he asked detailed questions about the catholic church such as transubstantiation on the street?. do you think that he would still have job ?, no he wouldn’t.! So if this Evangelist thinks that a Mormon president is not a good idea then vote for President Obama again and keep us where we are !

DavidL
1978 is the year Mormons accepted blacks?ow what a forward thinking bunch of morons. 13 years after the passage of Civil Rights bills- over 100 years after the civil war?ormons are even bigger bigots than republicans.
How many black football players at BYU?

CosmosDan said:
that’s funny right there, I don’t cae who ya are…….{well if you’re a Christian you may not think it’s funny}

you can google “christianity motivational poster” to see the source of this…

seek said:
You’re a piece of work now aren’t you? Perhaps you being an atheist has made your moral code disappear also. The nasty things you say indicate that perhaps a short course in etiquette might be in order – since we can’t ask you abide by the ten commandments.

i was rude and apologized to tillie, but i’m hard pressed to recall anything nasty… not that i’m incapable of such…

i must take issue with your holier than thou assessment that atheists have no moral code… are you effing kidding me?… do i have to go thru the list of religious scandals, name any denomination, that have rocked churches, pastors and entire ministries?… ask a choirboy who got plooked by a priest what he thinks about the catholic church’s “moral code” of sweeping it all under the rug and constantly transferring these pedophiles from church to church… then there’s ted haggard and jimmy swaggart, just to name two, ask them about their moral codes…

i’ll tell you another thing about this atheist’s moral code… as a conservative, i’m of the firm opinion that the so called “separation of church and state” is a complete myth fabricated by the aclu and other like-minded entities… a lot of these ignoramuses actually think that term is in the constitution… but the establishment clause of the first amendment clearly states that “congress shall make NO law”… no law means “against” as well as “for”… therefor i’m of the opinion that a judge who wants to display your precious ten commandments in his courtroom should be able to do so without some whiny ass atheist or overly sensitive muslim complaining they are constitutionally protected from being offended… a city hall putting up a nativity scene or a high school coach leading his team in prayer does not constitute the establishment of a national religion…

However, parents want their children to become as they are, good upstanding citizens who can fend for themselves, and continue the heritage. Not mindless sychopants who do nothing but “PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!” all the time.