MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

hahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahah

I ‘d love to take a Poll.
Not in your ‘happiest’ of dreams Joe….

I would love to be a fly on the wall of a room of military folk hearing that statement.

I guess you can say all kinds of crazy things on a show that is aired in limited syndication…

As a respected Journolist , Klein only knows what the voices in his head tell him .

Klein appears to do no research , just like Matthews .

Joe Klein To Chris Matthews: Obama’s Relationship With Military Is Better Than Bush’s

The United States Military hates Obama as much, or even more than they hated Osama.

Joe Klien and Chris Matthews are ____holes to even suggest anything different just because the muslim prince happen to be freeloading in OUR White House when the intel of bin Laden’s whereabouts were confirmed.

Big Eddie said:
As a respected Journolist , Klein only knows what the voices in his head tell him .

Klein appears to do no research , just like Matthews .

That’s not true. They run everything by crazy Larry and Rae Rae before they go on the air with any piece of left wing propaganda B/S.

A poll conducted by Military Times, which publishes independent newspapers for each of the services, found that political party affiliation, especially GOP affiliation, is dropping as more military members call themselves independents…

The poll, condcuted among 1800 active duty troops, shows those calling themselves Republicans has dropped by a third since 2004…

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14607

“Much of the shift appears to have occurred only very recently, with the percentage of troops identifying themselves as Republican dropping nine percentage points from 2008 to 2009 and the percentage of those calling themselves independents increasing 10 points over the same period.”

Hahahaha—dropped by a third since 2004! Looks like the military hates anything GOPy.

Everyone knows Obama hates military, Jews, Whites, Asians, Mexicans, American Indians and anyone blacker than he is. If I didn’t see this in Mediaite I never know because no one watches that media anymore.

Barack Must Go said:
That’s not true. They run everything by crazy Larry and Rae Rae before they go on the air with any piece of left wing propaganda B/S.

Bet they don’t mention Weinergate .

homie said:
“Much of the shift appears to have occurred only very recently, with the percentage of troops identifying themselves as Republican dropping nine percentage points from 2008 to 2009 and the percentage of those calling themselves independents increasing 10 points over the same period.”

that figure was similar to the national party ID trends for that time period…
the #’s have shifted across the spectrum since Jan 2009…

And how would Joe Klein’s dumb @SS know this. He’s not exactly “pro-military”. If I were a betting man (and I’m not) I would bet the mortgage that Joe used the term “baby-killer” to describe people like my father when they came home from Vietnam. Just a guess and my opinion.

homie said:
A poll conducted by Military Times, which publishes independent newspapers for each of the services, found that political party affiliation, especially GOP affiliation, is dropping as more military members call themselves independents…

The poll, condcuted among 1800 active duty troops, shows those calling themselves Republicans has dropped by a third since 2004…

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14607

“Much of the shift appears to have occurred only very recently, with the percentage of troops identifying themselves as Republican dropping nine percentage points from 2008 to 2009 and the percentage of those calling themselves independents increasing 10 points over the same period.”

Hahahaha—dropped by a third since 2004! Looks like the military hates anything GOPy.

So the support of Dems is going up??? You didn’t cover the other party. Can to mention that. Or are you covering that up? Hell… I’m an independent…

Somehow I doubt that there are very many liberals in the military.

Normally I don’t find Joe Klein to be much of a reliable source of anything other than what Joe Klein wants to believe. Whenever I read what he has to say or here him spout off, I can’t help noticing that you can’t say “Joe Klein” without saying “joke”.

Joe Klein and Chris Matthews need to get a room together.

Despite the military apparently being enamored with Obama,

The word you wanted here was, “allegedly.” Not “apparently.”

It is only “apparent” to the Liberal columnist, Joe Klein… it is not “apparent” to anyone else.

If Joe Klein truly means what he’s saying about how warm and chummy Obungles, oops, I mean Obama has gotten with the military then he should be going on every MSNBC, CNN and NPR propaganda program and blasting Barry for his conservative and hawkish leanings.  Hey Joe, why aren’t we hearing from you?  Huh?

Obama has certainly sent less of our military to their death than did Bush. So I’d imagine that engenders some favor.

Publius219 said:
Obama has certainly sent less of our military to their death than did Bush. So I’d imagine that engenders some favor.

only about 1200 for obama

Publius219 said:
Obama has certainly sent less of our military to their death than did Bush. So I’d imagine that engenders some favor.

from cowards..

homie said:
A poll conducted by Military Times, which publishes independent newspapers for each of the services, found that political party affiliation, especially GOP affiliation, is dropping as more military members call themselves independents…

The poll, condcuted among 1800 active duty troops, shows those calling themselves Republicans has dropped by a third since 2004…

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14607

“Much of the shift appears to have occurred only very recently, with the percentage of troops identifying themselves as Republican dropping nine percentage points from 2008 to 2009 and the percentage of those calling themselves independents increasing 10 points over the same period.”

Hahahaha—dropped by a third since 2004! Looks like the military hates anything GOPy.

No. The United States Military personel change from Republican to indepenant on paper only.

They do so because they fear retribution against their wives and children, while they’re deployed overses by the pussy freeloading in our White House simply for being a registered Republican.

Welcome to barack obama’s amerika..

I shouldn’t be at all surprised if Klein is correct. Remember in the initial days of the Occupation. Drinking water was running very low. Our troops were actually being shocked in showers. Weaponry and defensive gear were substandard to the point family members and friends were buying items and shipping them over (I actually bought some vests). We tried to do the uccpation on the cheap with too few troops, despite military commanders’ requests for more. When injured troops began coming home, the military hospitals were under-staffed and under-supplied to the extent family members and friends were buying therapeutic tools. I shouldn’t think W or the Republicans were very popular with the troops.

skoorbekim said:
from cowards..

Yes, senseless death is courageous. Remarque established that .

Barack Must Go said:
No. The United States Military personel change from Republican to indepenant on paper only. They do so because they fear retribution against their wives and children, while they’re deployed overses by the pussy freeloading in our White House simply for being a registered Republican. Welcome to barack obama’s amerika..

You’re nothing but a liar who never, never deals in facts. Slander is your game. Youir only game.

Another “Trees Are Made of Wood” headline. Next, Klein will say birds chirp in harmony in DC since Obama got elected.

I can say with fact that the military despises their current CIC from the Privates up to the Generals.

Yeah, I am SURE that the military not being able to vote was VERY helpful to the Democrats.

Especially the route that the Dept of Injustice took to do NOTHING.

YEP, the military is VERY GRATEFUL I AM SURE!

Just repeat it enough, it could become reality!

Royal Dimwit says:

You’re nothing but a liar who never, never deals in facts. Slander is your game. Youir only game.

Dude, you just described yourself to a T.

ps, it’s spelled, your, not youir. Happy to help!

Jerps said:
Another “Trees Are Made of Wood” headline. Next, Klein will say birds chirp in harmony in DC since Obama got elected.

It’s just amazing how the liberal media works to manufacture news that drives the thinking that they want to push on people.

Sometimes I wonder, but I have seen a few more people notice how liberal the media is than in the past.

Obama more in touch with the military than Bush? If you have any doubts that these mainstream media liberals live isolated in their own self-reinforcing world, here is proof positive.

Klein must be one of these liberals who doesn’t know a single person who voted for McCain. He surrounds himself with people who have identical views to his own, and comments such as this one are the inevitable result. Go ahead, Joe, practice your smug elitism. But don’t pretend to speak for the US military. You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, and everyone can see it.

felixw said:
Obama more in touch with the military than Bush? If you have any doubts that these mainstream media liberals live isolated in their own self-reinforcing world, here is proof positive.

Klein must be one of these liberals who doesn’t know a single person who voted for McCain. He surrounds himself with people who have identical views to his own, and comments such as this one are the inevitable result. Go ahead, Joe, practice your smug elitism. But don’t pretend to speak for the US military. You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, and everyone can see it.

Actually they do, he does and you are a moron.

It helps that we have a president now who is intelligent and knows that military policy is more than a video clip of the commander in chief land on an aircraft carrier its about policy and strategy. Obama is so much smarter than Bush and he understands military strategy. He realized it would take a concerted effort to defeat Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bush let Bin Laden escape and then attacked Iraq. Bush was an imbecile. Now we have a leader. Conservatives will never admit it but they know it is true,

DavidKramer said:
Yeah, I am SURE that the military not being able to vote was VERY helpful to the Democrats.

Especially the route that the Dept of Injustice took to do NOTHING.

YEP, the military is VERY GRATEFUL I AM SURE!

Just repeat it enough, it could become reality!

How dumb can you be? What planet are you living on? Read what you just posted? Geez!

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You’re nothing but a liar who never, never deals in facts. Slander is your game. Youir only game.

Even a true believer in the mess – i – ya Obama cannot deny the bi – partisan outpouring of love and camaraderie for Bi Bi Netanyahu, as opposed to they way they reat Barack proves just what POS even democrats in Washington know he is.

Barack Must Go said:
Even a true believer in the mess – i – ya Obama cannot deny the bi – partisan outpouring of love and camaraderie for Bi Bi Netanyahu, as opposed to they way they reat Barack proves just what POS even democrats in Washington know he is.

Even for a nut you don’t make any sense.

Sure the military does. The military soooo loves the party and President that do everything they can to make sure the military vote does not get counted….

I’m sure the Seals had strict guidelines which allowed the killing of Bin Laden if there was the slightest risk of not being able to capture him for integration. I am OK with it however the Seals assessed the situation.

The one concern I have is that I am sure that if Al Qaida had set up a security provision (with Bin Ladens approval), I sure they had orders to kill Bin Laden to keep him from being captured. My concern is: Did the Seals have the authority to capture him if they had the opportunity, or did they have orders to kill him. My only problem would be, if the latter, were those rules influenced by Obama applying his own military judgment to the mission?

Providential Recognition for Bush

Benjamin Franklin saw convincing proofs that “..God Governs in the Affairs of Men..”.
Providence forestalled Osama’s killing and announcement until the 8th anniversary of Bush’s derided “Mission Accomplished” speech.
President Bush, a man of prayer, ordered bin Laden taken “dead or alive”.
Devine timing is George’s answer, and his deriders’ rebuke.
Obama had do little than be ‘present’.
Wayne Harropson, Fountain Valley

Why are there so many internet pictures of Chris Matthews on his knees in the 60′s, 70′s, 80′s, 90′s, O’s and now 11s?

Sam M. said:
Actually they do, he does and you are a moron.

Why don’t you go back to “brain stem” and all the other inanities you used in previous avatars? You’re only good for a laugh, and not even much of laugh any more.

Well, at least he was able to make sure the troops got their armor they wanted. Bush walked in Walter Reed and told the troops suck it up, look I fell off my bicycle I know how it feels. Plus, you didn’t want to see those C-130s flying in to Dover in the middle of the night. Nothing to see here move along.

Wow him and the military must be the best of friends ever even more than every president combined because he had servicemen kill terrorist omg! Especially this operation that team sure killed a bunch of unarmed men in their nice luxurious home good they only could have possibly done it by being best friends with Obama.

skoorbekim said:
from cowards..

“cowards”? In what way, shape, or form?

here is a poll that refutes JK:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

skoorbekim said:
here is a poll that refutes JK:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

from the above Gallup poll cited (released today actually):

U.S. military veterans and those currently on active military duty are less likely to approve of President Obama’s job performance than are Americans of comparable ages who are not in the military.
…
Thirty-seven percent of all active-duty military personnel and veterans surveyed approved of the job Obama is doing during the January 2010 to April 2011 time frame. That compares with 48% of nonveterans interviewed during the same period.

George W. Bush was a fool – he made Neville Chamberlain, in comparison, seem like a military genius. As for Goober W’s popularity – http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/01/poll-bush-most-unpopular-in-modern-history/ “”No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president’s disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.” Using nitish’s scale, it’s likely Goober W.’s disapproval rating with the military is about 80%.

Wow, I don’t know who is having more trouble with reality, the dope in New York or the lefties on this blog. I will take a guess here, I would bet that Klein closest brush with real military personnel comes from interviews with Colonels or Generals as he is trying to entrap them, maybe a few privates just to show “balance”. My next guess is that most of you east coast lefties could not name ten people you know, not just in a bar, who have served or who are currently serving at this time. I would also bet that the majority of you, Klein included, did not have the balls to actually join a branch of our Armed Forces when you were of age to do so, even after the attacks on 9/11. In fact I would go so far as to speculate that in the deep corners of you basements, you think think those of us who have where stupid for doing so in the first place. (Note: I did not say all of you.)

So, as a former Army Officer, from a family that has served for generations, I think the odds that Klein has his finger on the pulse of the military are about as oh the second coming happening in the next few hours. Klein, like his fellow media cheerleaders is trying to bend reality to put El Presidente in the right light. They would make Joseph Goebbels proud.

Our military loves Obama because he is smarter or has not got as many of our troops killed (yet, his term is not over) or because he identifies better with us little solders than “W”, give me a frakin break!

nitish said:
from the above Gallup poll cited (released today actually):

The only groups squarely behind obama are blacks, muslims and morons.

The rest of us ” real ” Americans would prefer to see him in prison or in one of those ‘ man on the streets of ____ ‘, the muslim country of his own choosing in the Middle East or North Africa.

Sidhekitten said:
So, as a former Army Officer, from a family that has served for generations, I think the odds that Klein has his finger on the pulse of the military are about as oh the second coming happening in the next few hours

So, as a former Army Officer, from a family that has served for generations, I think the odds that Klein has his finger on the pulse of the military are about GOOD as oh the second coming happening in the next few hours.

Is that Joe Klein, the admitted liar? Pulling more data out of his ass is he? What a great match for Mathews.

Thanks to Mediaite for covering this story, one that would otherwise be unknown to normal people. Also, check out the following from Gallup…the right wing pollster…Sorry Joe, I know you hate facts.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

Barack Must Go said:
The only groups squarely behind obama are …morons

Obviously, by your own standards, you support Obama.

Phocus2 said:
Is that Joe Klein, the admitted liar? Pulling more data out of his ass is he? What a great match for Mathews. Thanks to Mediaite for covering this story, one that would otherwise be unknown to normal people. Also, check out the following from Gallup…the right wing pollster…Sorry Joe, I know you hate facts. http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

The link cited by you says, “U.S. military veterans and those currently on active military duty are less likely to approve of President Obama’s job performance than are Americans of comparable ages who are not in the military.” That does not refute Klein. Klein says that Obama has a better relationship with the military than Bush. English not your first language?

Hey, here is blast from the past, how about “Klein lies and soldiers die”. Seems I have heard a variation of that somewhere, now where and from who could that have been, oh wait, the left.

Sidhekitten said:
Hey, here is blast from the past, how about “Klein lies and soldiers die”. Seems I have heard a variation of that somewhere, now where and from who could that have been, oh wait, the left.

I like “If Goober W. Bush had been president when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor he’d have responded by declaring war on Guyana.” For indeed, no greater dumbass has been elected president than Goober W Bush.

Bill Adkins said:
The link cited by you says, “U.S. military veterans and those currently on active military duty are less likely to approve of President Obama’s job performance than are Americans of comparable ages who are not in the military.” That does not refute Klein. Klein says that Obama has a better relationship with the military than Bush. English not your first language?

the military times released results towards the end of Bush43′s term in Dec 2008 @ http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/12/122908_military_poll_bush/

Bush’s job approval rating as president remained unchanged among respondents at 48 percent, down from a high of 71 percent in 2004. That compares to 29 percent of the general public, according to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll.

So, Bush had a higher approval rating on an absolute basis, and, contrary to Obama, his approval amongst the military was higher than the general public.
as far as i can determine, Joe Klein made a statement he believes / wishes / hopes were true, but it’s his burden of proof to back up his statements–and the data available thus far refutes him.
as a prebuttal, please don’t bring up some pathetic variation of a loathsome ‘military is racist’ argument, unless it’s for pure comedy purposes…

What a bunch of BS.

U.S. military veterans and those currently on active military duty are less likely to approve of President Obama’s job performance than are Americans of comparable ages who are not in the military.;h/t hotair

Never forget those who died for us, those who serve for us.

“It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.” (Zell Miller quote,from the soldier’s poem)

Really?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/30/day-after-joe-klein-says-obama-closer-military-bush-poll-finds-milita

Bill Adkins said:
George W. Bush was a fool – he made Neville Chamberlain, in comparison, seem like a military genius. As for Goober W’s popularity – http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/01/poll-bush-most-unpopular-in-modern-history/ “”No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president’s disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.” Using nitish’s scale, it’s likely Goober W.’s disapproval rating with the military is about 80%.

Still hating on vets on this great day…

Wasn’t that long ago that the left was calling General Petraeus General Betray Us. But now they’re all warm and fuzzy towards the military.

tatboy said:
Still hating on vets on this great day…

Hating vets? Not at all. But I don’t suffer fools and I hate it worse when the nation suffers casualties and damage because of fools like goober w.

Bill Adkins said:
like “If Goober W. Bush had been president when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor he’d have responded by declaring war on Guyana.” For indeed, no greater dumbass has been elected president than Goober W Bush.

Actually, we have had worse, start with “Mister Fix it” from Georgia, LBJ, Woodrow “I’m a Racist” Wilson, Andrew Johnson, Andrew Jackson. Here is the point, this is the same Joe Klein who could not wait to hate all over the military any way he could. And, whatever happened to General “Betrayus” (thanks MM), oh now that El Presidente is in charge, he is OK? So do you think that the Military gives a shit what this East Coast Hack thinks, don’t bet on it.

Oh, and for a further slap in our guys face, some in congress and I am sure a bunch of people in Obama’s circles want to cut the pay of the very same people that Joe Klein says love El Presidente. Now the right is jumping on this as Secretary Gates saying we should do so, when he warned against such a measure. Can you say trial balloon? Windmills yea! Soldiers, boo!

Tell you what you decadent filth of politicians who want to cut the pay of already underpaid people, the very same people who risk their lives so you can steal from the rest of us, you first. You cut 20% of everyone else in the federal government first, including every congressman, senator, staffer, cabinet member, political appointee and for you El Presidente, you lead from the front and take a 50% pay cut. Until then, don’t even go there.

Happy Memorial Day, try to remember why we celebrate it in between the hot dogs and beer.

For your entertainment, and yes I did use a New York site to be “balanced”.

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Just to show how out of touch Klein is with regard to military approval of Obama, Gallop has a poll to prove him wrong today.
Then again, Klein is out of touch with the reality that we are familiar with most of the time.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

Sidhekitten said:
Actually, we have had worse, start with “Mister Fix it” from Georgia, LBJ, Woodrow “I’m a Racist” Wilson, Andrew Johnson, Andrew Jackson. Here is the point, this is the same Joe Klein who could not wait to hate all over the military any way he could. And, whatever happened to General “Betrayus” (thanks MM), oh now that El Presidente is in charge, he is OK? So do you think that the Military gives a shit what this East Coast Hack thinks, don’t bet on it. Oh, and for a further slap in our guys face, some in congress and I am sure a bunch of people in Obama’s circles want to cut the pay of the very same people that Joe Klein says love El Presidente. Now the right is jumping on this as Secretary Gates saying we should do so, when he warned against such a measure. Can you say trial balloon? Windmills yea! Soldiers, boo! Tell you what you decadent filth of politicians who want to cut the pay of already underpaid people, the very same people who risk their lives so you can steal from the rest of us, you first. You cut 20% of everyone else in the federal government first, including every congressman, senator, staffer, cabinet member, political appointee and for you El Presidente, you lead from the front and take a 50% pay cut. Until then, don’t even go there. Happy Memorial Day, try to remember why we celebrate it in between the hot dogs and beer. For your entertainment, and yes I did use a New York site to be “balanced”. http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/news/gates-warns-against-military-pay-cuts-dpgonc-20110524-ch_13358307

Destroyed the economy; added $6.5 trillion to the national debt; blundered into Iraq; screwed the pooch at Tora Bora; Mission Creep in Afghanistan; — I don’t know what standard you use, bud, but that short list which is not exhaustive proves that Goober W. Bush is the once and forever worst in history and the biggest dumbass to ever find himself in a position he was not competent to fill. As to military acumen, Goober had none and it was demonstrated for 8 years, our long national nightmare.

I’d like to see Joe Klein walk into our American Legion and start spouting his crap about the military. That would be fun to watch them dismantle him. I also have three friends who are serving now who can’t tolerate Obama’s policies. However, they have enormous respect for the office of President.

Bill Adkins said:
The link cited by you says, “U.S. military veterans and those currently on active military duty are less likely to approve of President Obama’s job performance than are Americans of comparable ages who are not in the military.” That does not refute Klein. Klein says that Obama has a better relationship with the military than Bush. English not your first language?

Im sure you mean well Bill, but Klein sorta backed into saying Obama MIGHT have a better relationship. Either way, its just an opinion and you know what they say about those. Maybe they are dissapointed in the Bush plan in Iraq, maybe not, but the real issue will always be, Liberals always dismantle the Military, ALWAYS. That out weighs any other thought the military might have one way or the other. AND Folks, Obama is as Liberal as you can get. They actually may have to invent another label for him being so far out left like he is. But NO, the Military will never choose a Liberal over a Conservative.

skoorbekim said:
here is a poll that refutes JK:http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

UUUMMM, no. No it doesn’t. You might want to read what you link to before providing it.

If you want to live in fantasy land with Joe and Chris, stay tuned to MSNBC. But if you want to know how Obama is really perceived by people with military backgrounds, check out this Gallup survey of veterans.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147839/Military-Personnel-Veterans-Give-Obama-Lower-Marks.aspx

As you will see, Obama’s approval rating among veterans has fallen sharply since he came into office. And veterans have always given him a lower approval rating than those who haven’t served.

Of course, MSNBC viewers won’t want to read this, since their whole world view is built on ignoring reality. That’s MSNBC’s most important role: hiding reality from liberals. That’s why you never hear Chris Matthews talk about unemployment, the national debt, the stagnant economy, falling home prices, rising casualties in Afghanistan (seven more Americans killed this weekend — but you didn’t hear that on MSNBC), rising gas prices, or any other real issues of real importance to real people.

Bush was just a plain old necrophile looking for young bodies for his orgies. No wonder the military didn’t like him.

nitish said:
the military times released results towards the end of Bush43’s term in Dec 2008 @ http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/12/122908_military_poll_bush/ So, Bush had a higher approval rating on an absolute basis, and, contrary to Obama, his approval amongst the military was higher than the general public.as far as i can determine, Joe Klein made a statement he believes / wishes / hopes were true, but it’s his burden of proof to back up his statements–and the data available thus far refutes him.as a prebuttal, please don’t bring up some pathetic variation of a loathsome ‘military is racist’ argument, unless it’s for pure comedy purposes…

Well presented, thank you. Aside from this military thing Klein as achieved some pretty low lows in lying about Bush in order to bash him. It seems anything is far game. He’s still campaigning against Bush to defend Obama’s inadequacies.

Like I said, Klein doesn’t live in our reality.

murphy0071 said:
Bush was just a plain old necrophile looking for young bodies for his orgies. No wonder the military didn’t like him.

proof please

Nice piece of Memorial Day propaganda.

Why doesn’t Mediaite take the time to actually talk about the military in terms of the sacrifice and service they have made over the centuries to ensure the freedoms we enjoy everyday – rather than push it into a political tug-of-war on who they like best: Obama vs. Bush.

If they want to continually hold the bar to what Bush accomplished I am sure the Democrats are not doing themselves any favors – no matter what end of the political spectrum you view it from.
Klein is that last person who could and should, make a judgement call on the feelings and opinions of the military.

Better relationship? Not according to the soldiers I’ve talked to.

Well, Obama is the one that GOT Bin Laden. Obama being a democratic president, and the republicans CAN’T accept it that it was UNDER Obama’s WATCH… *Mission ACCOMPLISHED*. The republicans even had the GAUL to suggest that it was bush that started it.. Well, he startedit, alright, the Iraq war. Actually, WHY did we INVADE that country anyway? What did they do to the United States, and don’t say for our SECURITY cuz that is not holding any MERIT at all. Our security SUCKED and *911* proves it. We were watching those 12 terrorists for atleast 2 years, and bush did NOTHING.. Obama inherited a TON of trouble, and he can only do so much. This is the same thing that when Bill Clinton was president, when he fired those Air Missiles at the Afghanistan rebels… the republicans kept REPEATING, we don’t want another VIETNAM WAR, cuz they knew that the voters were SICK/TIRED of war. So, Bill Clinton brought our soldiers home.. Knock him for the SEXUAL stuff, be it was the FIRST YEAR of Bill Clinton’s SECOND term, that he brought this country OUT OF DEBT… and no one EVER talks about that. We were in DEBT because of George Sr. & Ronald Reagan, whom I voted for myself…I think that Bill Clinton would this day, have some darn good ideas on how to FIX our hugh DEFECEIT now… DOES anyone give that a thought, or are we just PARALIZED on the Monica Lewinsky CRAP.

How in the f*ck would a leftist like Joe Klein know how the military feels about Obama? I bet he doesn’t have a single contact in the Pentagon or at any other military base.

The superiority of Democrats in military affairs is demonstrated. The inferiority of Republicans in military affairs is illustrated best by Goober W Bush.

Mahala4 said:
Our security SUCKED and *911* proves it. We were watching those 12 terrorists for atleast 2 years, and bush did NOTHING..

Yeah… so why didn’t Clinton take the clean shot of Osama when he had it? No Osama, No 9-11, No 9-11 no Iraq war, No Afghanistan war…. We can speculate our way through the history but 9-11 did happen. You could even sya Bush “inherited” Bin Laden from Clinton. Our security here and our relationships abroad made the capture of Osama possible. That is not something Obama can take credit for without recognizing the efforts and groundwork laid from the previous administration.

You seem to really miss Clinton, so don’t forget that he had a Republican Congress.

Love it how you cut the clip right in the middle of the conversation.

Hey Joe, remember the old saying, “everybody’s entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts? But then again, why would anyone expect facts from Joe Klein on a Chris “tingles” Matthews’ show?

From a news report today from Gallup, 30 May 2011

Approval for Barack Obama’s job performance as president is lower among veterans and active US military than it is among non-military, according to a poll released Monday by Gallup.

The results, which came from data from Gallup’s daily tracking poll of Obama’s job approval, are based on interviews with over 238,000 respondents between January 2010 and April 2011.

On average, 48 percent of non-military personnel surveyed over that time period approved of the job Obama was doing, while just 37 percent of active military or veterans approved.

That trend persists among all age groups, the analysis found. The spread is most pronounced among 18 to 29 year olds, a group that tends to have a highly favorable view of this president’s performance. 58 percent of non-military in that age group approves of the job Obama is doing, but just 44 percent of veterans or active military felt that way.

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Somebody needs to cue Klein and Matthews!

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/30/active-military-and-veterans-hold-less-favorable-view-of-obamas-performance-as-president/#ixzz1Nqb5xghe

mlb said:
Yeah… so why didn’t Clinton take the clean shot of Osama when he had it? No Osama, No 9-11, No 9-11 no Iraq war, No Afghanistan war…. We can speculate our way through the history but 9-11 did happen. You could even sya Bush “inherited” Bin Laden from Clinton. Our security here and our relationships abroad made the capture of Osama possible. That is not something Obama can take credit for without recognizing the efforts and groundwork laid from the previous administration. You seem to really miss Clinton, so don’t forget that he had a Republican Congress.

Yes, he did have a Republican congress — and when he tried to take bin Laden out in the Sudan they accused him of ‘wag the dog’ and hitting an aspirin factory. Having Republicans on America’s side is like having a rattlesnake in the baby’s crib.

TucsonTerpFan said:
Approval for Barack Obama’s job performance as president is lower among veterans and active US military

Read the sentence – read it again.. Break it down. Now, read Klein’s assertion. Get back to me.

Bill Adkins said:
Destroyed the economy; added $6.5 trillion to the national debt; blundered into Iraq; screwed the pooch at Tora Bora; Mission Creep in Afghanistan; — I don’t know what standard you use, bud, but that short list which is not exhaustive proves that Goober W. Bush is the once and forever worst in history and the biggest dumbass to ever find himself in a position he was not competent to fill. As to military acumen, Goober had none and it was demonstrated for 8 years, our long national nightmare.

Do you really want to go there? Not a fan of “W”, but in case you had not noticed we are now in a THIRD war. Oh, pardon me, “kinetic military action”. I guess that means since we still use slug throwers and not energy weapons it is kinetic. When a bullet flies by your head, its a war, not matter which guy is at 1600. But I digress, did you forget North Korea, Iran, or Hugo down in Venezuela? How about at our southern border, the car bombs are consistent with Hezbollah/Hamas style detonations. All of these places could be come wars four, five and six. As for Libya, please don’t give the NATO crap, we are NATO. Make no mistake, if this President follows down the path of progressives before him, in five years we will still be there, just like “W”. For the love of all that is holy, 18 year old’s getting blown to hell is not a political issue. Quit making it so.

Pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and read some frakin history, I mean real history with primary sources not what they taught you in high school for Christ’s Sake. Better yet, how about you and the other progressives on this site that support “O”‘s new war volunteer to write the next “Your son/daughter died a hero letter”. How about that?

Now a good commander will never let you take that responsibility, so here is a better one. Take some time out of your busy busy schedule and find the home of the parents or wife/husband and see if there is anything you can do, really do, to comfort them in their pain and loss. You see, if a solider dies, its over for him/her, but for his/her family, it goes on a lifetime. They are the silent hero’s kids.

Dumb and dumber inaction.

God save us from these lame brained twits and their narcissism.
These two characters are oafish fools; intellectually myopic and they probably urinate together as they sing hosannas to the greatest egotist; our unsteemed lying-addicted current president.

THANKYOU SIDHEKITTEN VERY WELL SAID… I hope that everyone takes the time to read your words… As for Joe Klein… isn’t his bus leaving for Middle America soon? It will be interesting to see who he spends his time with on his so called journey… I am sure that he will find the elite in each community to pass his time with so that he will feel somewhat at home…. never really taking the time to savor the true flavor and character of the cities and towns through which he passes.