FoxNation.com, directly linked at the very top of Fox News’ homepage.

And here it comes….

Bret Baeir is a liar for stating his is not an opinion show. Special Report’s “all-star” panel is overwhelmingly conservative and takes up a third of the show.
And between the half-hour point and the panel Brett does little hit pieces on the Left.
Even the first half hour is suspect in the stories they choose, always running pieces that make the Right look good, like the latest polls supporting their positions. They rarely run polls when they support the other side.

When people want to talk about fairness and Fox in the same sentence the only person worth mentioning is Shepard Smith.

___________________________________________
Recent FOX lies…

1 – A guy just hit me!!

2 – Wisconsin poll numbers reversed

3 – BECK: They are all Reform Jews

4 – Mislabeled Ron Paul CPAC video

5 – Obama refuses to “enforce” DOMA

6 – BECK: Only FOX and Washington Times covered Pentagon report

7 – Jennifer Griffin: “Earlier I reported that Fox news had not gone to Ghaddafi’s compound while I reported CNN and Reuters had in fact gone.
I’ve have since learned that Fox did indeed go.”

8 – DOOCY: “Obama is on vacation in Brazil.”
His concession, days later: “OK, it’s not a spring break that he’s on down there, it is an important meeting with the leaders down there to drum up jobs.”

BFD said:
Bret Baeir is a liar for stating his is not an opinion show. Special Report’s “all-star” panel is overwhelmingly conservative and takes up a third of the show.
And between the half-hour point and the panel Brett does little hit pieces on the Left.
Even the first half hour is suspect in the stories they choose, always running pieces that make the Right look good, like the latest polls supporting their positions. They rarely run polls when they support the other side.

When people want to talk about fairness and Fox in the same sentence the only person worth mentioning is Shepard Smith.

___________________________________________
Recent FOX lies…

1 – A guy just hit me!!

2 – Wisconsin poll numbers reversed

3 – BECK: They are all Reform Jews

4 – Mislabeled Ron Paul CPAC video

5 – Obama refuses to “enforce” DOMA

6 – BECK: Only FOX and Washington Times covered Pentagon report

7 – Jennifer Griffin: “Earlier I reported that Fox news had not gone to Ghaddafi’s compound while I reported CNN and Reuters had in fact gone.
I’ve have since learned that Fox did indeed go.”

8 – DOOCY: “Obama is on vacation in Brazil.”
His concession, days later: “OK, it’s not a spring break that he’s on down there, it is an important meeting with the leaders down there to drum up jobs.”

And just like EVERY OTHER news agency they release corrections & retractions . Do you really want to go there ? The New York Times alone has more falsehoods and misrepresentations in a year than FOX has been on the air .

Not only was the Rally to Restore Sanity whiter than a Klan rally, it also featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie.

Jon should have called it the Rally to Restore Fatwas, lulz. I’m sure his lemming like audience would have been totally kewl with that.

Stewart was his usual (laugh right now on cue) self.
Bret was good, but not great. He could keep his sense of humor and reflect Jon’s tasteless questions right back at him if he had the skill. Bret is a good anchor, but he’s just average when debating anyone.

Everybody is jealous of Fox News and their unparalled success.

Dem4Ever said:
Everybody is jealous of Fox News and their unparalled success.

Not everyone is jealous of Fox, the quality of people in their audience is pretty low. a bunch of rednecks and dumb middle Americans who are clueless. Fox is all about manipulating the emotions of rather unsophisticated people. Look at Glen Beck’s and Huckabee’s audience. They are a pretty lame group of mediocre people. Yes, there are a lot of people like them. I would not want tobe one of them.

Dem4Ever said:
Everybody is jealous of Fox News and their unparalled success.

Disgusted is more like it. According To Jim was successful, too. The majority of dumbass Americans prefer crap.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Not everyone is jealous of Fox, the quality of people in their audience is pretty low. a bunch of rednecks and dumb middle Americans who are clueless. Fox is all about manipulating the emotions of rather unsophisticated people. Look at Glen Beck’s and Huckabee’s audience. They are a pretty lame group of mediocre people. Yes, there are a lot of people like them. I would not want tobe one of them.

And they is was people who identify themselves as ” liberal ” is at 20% in America . You libs are repugnant.

Was there more to that? Or was it all just Stewart acting like the usual hostile dick that he is?

Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Stewart has put MSNBC on blast for being as biased as Fox. The video is out there if you look for it.

murf said:
And they is was people who identify themselves as ” liberal ” is at 20% in America . You libs are repugnant.

F**k off.

JoeRemi said:
F**k off.

Spoken like a true dumbass American.

slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Having Bret Baier’s opinion on MSNBC would have been nice, but it does make more sense for him to ask about FoxNews’ stance because Bret is supposed to be one of the more reliable voices of FoxNews’ “Hard News” division.

MSNBC would be the easy one though. Stewart doesn’t really hold them to a high regard. John did ask about NPR though. You don’t want to give him credit about that?

What do you think about Stewart throwing NPR out on the table?

I must say, I get a kick out of the comments on this website.

Anyone see this Onion piece?
“Local Idiot To Post Comment on Internet”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/local-idiot-to-post-comment-on-internet,2500/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation

slickerwick said:
I must say, I get a kick out of the comments on this website.

Anyone see this Onion piece?
“Local Idiot To Post Comment on Internet”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/local-idiot-to-post-comment-on-internet,2500/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation

Welcome to 2008

F=Fine
O=Organization
X=Times 10

Bret should have noted that the the thrust of the Daily Show isnt fair treatment towards all guests,and shining an EQUAL light on all of the political silliness. Instead he spends 90% of his time ridiculing Fox, and 10% CNN and MSNBC (and MSNBC far surpasses Fox in assinine political coverage). Not very fair. Yet RAREly does anyone call Stewart out on this. Or when somebody does, Stewart is quick to slap on the clown nose, and run from a discussion that he may get embarrassed in.

Why everyone is so punked out by Jon Stewart is beyond me. I know he is super influential, and his incredible talent for comedy is the biggest reason for that. But people need to stop worrying about incurring his wrath and point out how utterly disingenuous he is.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Not everyone is jealous of Fox, the quality of people in their audience is pretty low. a bunch of rednecks and dumb middle Americans who are clueless.

Hey look- its a real life bigot!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bigot

slickerwick said:
I must say, I get a kick out of the comments on this website. Anyone see this Onion piece?“Local Idiot To Post Comment on Internet” http://www.theonion.com/articles/local-idiot-to-post-comment-on-internet,2500/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation

Yet, here you are, posting. Your ironic detachment isnt so detached after all.

Also, I think Jon has now told Bair, Shep Smith, and Chris Wallace that they are the only quality fair people over at Fox. Has Megan Kelly been on the DS yet? Is this list going to keep growing until its only the Fox opinion guys that are singled out as bias, thus somewhat validating Fox’s claim?

I will admit that Fox and Friends is biased and silly, and so are some of the daytime people over at FBN. But if Stewart focused even a fraction of that attention on MSNBC and the big 3 networks, he would be swimming in a golden sea of great material. Yet that might endanger some of his beloved ideological viewpoints, and we cant have that. So I guess the only real option is to steer your own agenda then bombard those who you disagree with, with claims of having an agenda. Oh and act extremely smug and sarcastic when you do it.

And that is why i dont watch the Daily Show. Which kinda sucks because it is funny and has great guests. But the level of honest introspection among the host and the writers over there is at a level so low that it is clearly circling the drain.

AntiHyperbole said:
But if Stewart focused even a fraction of that attention on MSNBC and the big 3 networks,

The “big 3 networks” have an hour to a half an hour of news on every night where they report the news of the country and the world. Now where is your proof they are as bias as some 24hr news channel?

Stewart, an already teeny, tiny little excuse for a man, through his inability to control his liberal bias, had pretty much disappeared by the end of that interview. He ( Stewart ) is such a slimey little partisan hack he could not even bring himself to look at Bret ( lying weasals never can ). Worse yet, the little creep actually wasn’t going to shake his hand at the end of that display of left wing bomb thrower arrested development in action.

Through that rediculous display, Stewart perfectly epitomized the true nature of the closed minded, juvenile delinquent, establishment liberal of the 21st century. Unable to function outside of his / their myopic view of the world comfort zone, where one is surrounded only by those as disfunctional as oneself………pathetic……..even though he and his minions actually, in their less than simple minds, I / he really set him ( Bret ) straight.

Keep up the great work Jon, Fox ratings just jumped another 15 points and the dems lost another 10 seats thanks to you.

Barack Must Go said:
Stewart, an already teeny, tiny little excuse for a man, through his inability to control his liberal bias, had pretty much disappeared by the end of that interview. He ( Stewart ) is such a slimey little partisan hack he could not even bring himself to look at Bret

Shows how blind you are. Stewart toned it down because Brett was so defenseless he didn’t want to pile on.
Especially, like Jon said, with his Baier’s lovely wife looking on from backstage.

Jon showed mercy.

Fox was born because all other news was heftily left, so even if Stewart was right i’m not really concerned with a need to defend it. F—, Stewart, f— the left, f— the used to be leftwing dominated news and just deal with it! There are other opinions and you cant shut them up. I mean whats the point? Liberals yelling “Fox lies?” WOW! How rich!

I mean holy crap people how about some perspective. We actually finally somehow wound up with a president, surrounded by truthers and commies, that openly wants to “fundamentaly change” our country into the liberal utopian dream world the left has always sought and though could actually exist, but the concern is “Fox lies?”

GTF outta here you liberal scumbag pieces of dung! What a damn joke.

BFD said:
Special Report’s “all-star” panel is overwhelmingly conservative and takes up a third of the show ”

And this is just what I mean, every other panel on every other news show is overwhelmingly far left. So there ya have it.

Steve_27 said:
And this is just what I mean, every other panel on every other news show is overwhelmingly far left. So there ya have it.

ummm…wait…what other “news” shows have panels again?

JoeRemi said:
The majority of dumbass Americans prefer crap.

The last general election proves you right.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Not everyone is jealous of Fox, the quality of people in their audience is pretty low. a bunch of rednecks and dumb middle Americans who are clueless. Fox is all about manipulating the emotions of rather unsophisticated people. Look at Glen Beck’s and Huckabee’s audience. They are a pretty lame group of mediocre people. Yes, there are a lot of people like them. I would not want tobe one of them.

Thanks for sharing your opinion with us. It is good to see who is not even worthy of responses in the future.

slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Good fair question. MAybe because there are not enough people to give a hoot what MSNBC says or does anyway?

JoeRemi said:
F**k off.

Wow, strong come back Joe. LMAO!!

Steve_27 said:
Wow, strong come back Joe. LMAO!!

Yes, he should have been MUCH more civil in his response to this….

“You libs are repugnant.”

Idiot.

They are really serving their purpose of giving relevant news to the world. And they have done it very well.
Pasta Boat

BFD said:
Idiot.

BFD says : …whenever an actor plays a retard they are a shoo-in for the top honors .And Julianne Moore will be going for the ” full retard” .

Who cares what this piece of garbage , the worst of the worst on this website , has to say ?

Steve_27 said:
slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Good fair question. MAybe because there are not enough people to give a hoot what MSNBC says or does anyway?

Fair question? Bullsh*t. Stewart didn’t mention MSNBC because they don’t spend all their time claiming to be “fair and balanced” and tout how amazing they are. Fox News bases almost every few minutes saying how balanced their panels are and how they give voices to both sides. Again, bullsh*t. When was the last time MSNBC said they were “fair” or “balanced”? In fact, they promote how heavily progressive and liberal they are. Weak argument, chief. Try again.

spends almost*

Steve_27 said:
We actually finally somehow wound up with a president, surrounded by truthers and commies…

Wait, so there’s more than one “truther” and “commie” currently working for the Obama administration? Would you like to list them for us, or were you just too lazy to get to it this time?

BFD said:
Shows how blind you are. Stewart toned it down because Brett was so defenseless he didn’t want to pile on.Especially, like Jon said, with his Baier’s lovely wife looking on from backstage. Jon showed mercy.

Stewart is a cowardly piss ant. He is incapable of having a legitimate discussion ( argument ) with a real person ( especially one that works at ” FOX NEWS ” ) such as Bret Baier because he knows from the outset he will lose.

The dolts that worship the ground this teeny, tiny, little excuse for a man walks on are too fat ( headed ) with liberal Kool Aid to even realize what was happening right before their eyes.

Stewart taking that cheap, par for the course in liberal late night punditry, about Bret’s wife’s presence being responsible for his impotency, was not lost on Baier. He was simply showing the true grace and mercy toward the petrified little boy before him that sets us conservatives apart from the riff raff that that permiates the liberal mind among us today.

Jon showed mercy? ……you made a funny BFD. Good one.

Why didn’t Stewart ask Bret MSNBC or CNN instead of NPR? I guess they are so irrelevant, he doesn’t even mention them…? That was an obvious roundabout there. Didn’t want to admit they have a bias to the left, perhaps?

I think the fact that he is acknowledging Shep and Bret are straight news guys proves they are objective. They are a 24 news channel, and they admit they were created as a counter balance to ALLLL the other left leaning media. Also, their day time shows are straight news. America’s News Room, America’s News HQ, FOX news watch, Happening Now, America Live, Special Report, Greta…. The Left is just obsessed with the people who are admittedly Conservative like Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly. Or they go after Doocy.

Again, I will say, the only reason the Left thinks FOX is so biased is because they actually present the Conservative or Republican opinion, without attacking it.

BFD said:
Yes, he should have been MUCH more civil in his response to this…. “You libs are repugnant.” Idiot.

I dont get the quotes? I didn’t write that. And “much civil” wasn’t the point. I was goofing on how he seemed to have nothing else to say.

Stewart and his “hits” are just a cover for avoiding any relevant news or facts since like most Libs, he is UNABLE to debate in an arena of ideas.

Steve_27 said:
I dont get the quotes? I didn’t write that. And “much civil” wasn’t the point. I was goofing on how he seemed to have nothing else to say.

JoeRemi was responding in kind to someone who said ““You libs are repugnant.”

If you don’t like that kind of discourse then call both sides out or better still, stay the f*ck out of it.

sarainitaly said:
Also, their day time shows are straight news……America Live

Megyn Kelly straight news!!!!LOLOL

Why is Jon so obsessed with FOX? It makes me laugh how the lefties are scared to death that another opinion besides theirown is allowed to be aired. Jon doesn’t like Fox because he doesnt think that conservatives should be allowed a voice.

Fox fills the void left by the rest of the media…all of them….abccbsnbcmsnbccnnnytimeshboetc….who don’t allow a conservative voice to be heard fairly. Look at CNN’s idea of a conservative – Kathleen Parker and her Palin bashing; MSNBC thinks Joe S is a conservative, and Katie, Brian, Diane and her co-hort George are all well known lefties.

Jon really hates Beck, which means Jon is just really really jealous of Beck and his ratings.

Megyn does news, and debates, and Kelly’s Court, but yes, when she does news, I believe she covers the news. Her debates and segments ALWAYS include Democrats/Liberals, so her show is always fair and balanced.

ProgLib said:
Fair question? Bullsh*t. Stewart didn’t mention MSNBC because they don’t spend all their time claiming to be “fair and balanced” and tout how amazing they are. Fox News bases almost every few minutes saying how balanced their panels are and how they give voices to both sides. Again, bullsh*t. When was the last time MSNBC said they were “fair” or “balanced”? In fact, they promote how heavily progressive and liberal they are. Weak argument, chief. Try again.

Why would I need to “try again” when you, and them, are proving my point for me? You dont even make sense but at least I give you credit for throwing it out there rite in your very name. “Proglib,” Ok cool, we’ll never see eye to eye and thats it.

Sometimes a guest is on by himself, yes. But the overwhelming majority of the time there is a lefty on one side of the screen and a righty on the other. If you keep missing it because thats when you happen to be masturbating to Micheal Moore movies, then i’m sorry but it’s true. So they are justified to claim “fair and balanced.”

“Tout how amazing they are?” Thats right, they look at the ratings and state the obvious. They are telling the truth and have the right to. (Unless of course you think polls stats and data only apply when it favors libs? Which is heavily possible being though you are a ‘Proglib’. Again, thank you for your openess)

“In fact, they promote how heavily progressive they are.” Awsome! Thanks pal, cause many other libs here (who are gonna be mad at you now) will argue till their blue like a crayola crayon that there is no media bias supporting lefty causes. This kills that so many thanks. Some times I get exasperated so its nice to have a “Proglib” to support my side ;)

The “Chief” wins. Throw yourself in a creek Pochohontos

Africa:
Thousands of Christians Displaced in Ethiopia After Muslim Extremists Torch Churches, Homes
———————————————————————————
Courtesy of “The Peaceful” religion!
LOL!

Let’s see how many of Stewart’s “news” outlets will be carrying this story, or any other that doesn’t conform to liberal orthodoxy!

The cat’s been out of the bag for a long time….Media = Liberal Propaganda.
FOX is just the antidote!

TfT said:
Why is Jon so obsessed with FOX? It makes me laugh how the lefties are scared to death that another opinion besides theirown is allowed to be aired. Jon doesn’t like Fox because he doesnt think that conservatives should be allowed a voice. Fox fills the void left by the rest of the media…all of them….abccbsnbcmsnbccnnnytimeshboetc….who don’t allow a conservative voice to be heard fairly. Look at CNN’s idea of a conservative – Kathleen Parker and her Palin bashing; MSNBC thinks Joe S is a conservative, and Katie, Brian, Diane and her co-hort George are all well known lefties. Jon really hates Beck, which means Jon is just really really jealous of Beck and his ratings.

It’s just natural to be obsessed with the top dog. When the hockey season started, everyone was obsessed with the Blackhawks. When baseball starts all will be obsessed with the Giants. It’s just the way it is.

To a Lib, fawning over Obamo = ‘Objective News Gathering.’

Everyone knows this to be true.

The jig is up on Obamo; you can see Leftist media hacks doing their utmost to coddle & breast-feed him.

It is, at the same time, hilarious and pathetic. But Leftist media hacks are the amoebas of society; nothing more ought to be expected from these trollops.

Barack Must Go said:
Stewart is a cowardly piss ant. He is incapable of having a legitimate discussion ( argument ) with a real person ( especially one that works at ” FOX NEWS ” ) such as Bret Baier because he knows from the outset he will lose.
The dolts that worship the ground this teeny, tiny, little excuse for a man walks on are too fat ( headed ) with liberal Kool Aid to even realize what was happening right before their eyes.

Stewart was Charlie Sheen before Charlie Sheen. The Stewart audience are big Sheen fans.

Ahh..it was nice to Major Garrett on Morning Joe this morning.
He seems so much happier being a real journalist visiting a real news show now that he doesn’t have to carry water for the GOP anymore.

Someday that will be Brett Baier.

BFD said:
JoeRemi was responding in kind to someone who said ““You libs are repugnant.” If you don’t like that kind of discourse then call both sides out or better still, stay the f*ck out of it.

“Stay the f— out of it?” Lol, thats all everyone here does is get into it. If you go back and look it should seem reasonable that I thought you accidently contributed that quote to me. Even if I cared that he was refering to “Libs are repugnant” with “f— off,” I still found it ammusing his retort was so blunt, thats all. It had nothing to do with not liking that kind of discourse. If you haven’t noticed I can be blunt and harsh also. So lighten up cause we’ll have plenty to brawl over anyway, this isn’t it.

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart was Charlie Sheen before Charlie Sheen. The Stewart audience are big Sheen fans.

Maybe you are Jealous because you don’t have enough fans, your only loyal fans are your close friends and families who (have to) tune in to your YouTube channel.

skyfet said:
Maybe you are Jealous because you don’t have enough fans, your only loyal fans are your close friends and families who (have to) tune in to your YouTube channel.

I think you give him too much credit. There are always a few people on the internet willing to sit through an uploaded video for a few minutes.

Steve_27 said:
I still found it ammusing his retort was so blunt, thats all. It had nothing to do with not liking that kind of discourse. If you haven’t noticed I can be blunt and harsh also. So lighten up cause we’ll have plenty to brawl over anyway, this isn’t it.

Fair enough. You seem like a nice guy and I don’t want to turn this into a whole thing.
My main point was I think f*ck off is a fair response to “libs are repugnant”.

I apologize if I came off too harsh. i think I had you confused with Arkansas Steve. lol

BFD said:
Ahh..it was nice to Major Garrett on Morning Joe this morning.He seems so much happier being a real journalist visiting a real news show now that he doesn’t have to carry water for the GOP anymore. Someday that will be Brett Baier.

real news show lol,

“F— off is very appropriate for “Libs are repugnant.” I had not seen it. ;)

I watch Stewart about once every 8 weeks or so, happened to catch this one. It was a trainwreck for Baier, a technicolor trainwreck. Stewart took him apart.

BFD said:
Ahh..it was nice to Major Garrett on Morning Joe this morning.He seems so much happier being a real journalist visiting a real news show now that he doesn’t have to carry water for the GOP anymore. Someday that will be Brett Baier.

I noticed you did not mention that Major was also a guest on ” FOX NETWORK “‘s, RED EYE with Gregg Gutfeld last night. Were you aware and it just didn’t fit in with your liberal ” someday ” fantasy?

By the way Baier spells his first name with only one t at the end.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Not everyone is jealous of Fox, the quality of people in their audience is pretty low. a bunch of rednecks and dumb middle Americans who are clueless. Fox is all about manipulating the emotions of rather unsophisticated people. Look at Glen Beck’s and Huckabee’s audience. They are a pretty lame group of mediocre people. Yes, there are a lot of people like them. I would not want tobe one of them.

So early in the day to call the most inane and idiotic post but definitely in the running. Congrats!
Broad unfounded generalizations, the hallmark of a weak mind.

murf said:
And they is was people who identify themselves as ” liberal ” is at 20% in America . You libs are repugnant.

No just smart!

Steve_27 said:
It’s just natural to be obsessed with the top dog. When the hockey season started, everyone was obsessed with the Blackhawks. When baseball starts all will be obsessed with the Giants. It’s just the way it is.

Jon is a comedian. Fox News provides a lot of fodder for satire. Look at Glen Beck and O’Reilly. It is hard to watch them without either laughing on wanting to cry. Beck, like Bachmann are both of questionable mental stability. Fox is not the top dog, it is a rabid dog for the common folks who barely read and are to lazy to think.

Who cares if a partisan left winger doesn’t like right leaning news? When does Stewart EVER hold other networks to this level of scrutiny?

Perhaps the headline oft this article should be changed to:

Stewart is NOT objective.

I agree dronetek, Jon never holds anyone else to account…he, like his lib buddies, lives in his little anti-fox bubble and he can’t get out of it….they hate that conservatives have a voice on the airwaves.

Dronetek said:
Who cares if a partisan left winger doesn’t like right leaning news? When does Stewart EVER hold other networks to this level of scrutiny?

Can you honestly say that fox is a news outlet? They gave 1 million dollars to the Republican Govenors Association. At least that’s coming back to haunt them if you’ve checked the polling on Republicans govenors lately. Those of you who try and defend them because of their ratings are delusional. As Jon pointed out, ratings don’t equal quality. The reason their ratings are so high is because they tell the sheep who watch them what they want to hear. Last night Ed Schultz showed a clip of that cockeyed govenor Walker claiming that the majority of the letters he got after his union busting bill was introduced were favorable but, the AP got access to those letter through FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) and by a whopping 5 to 1 they were letters against him. The idiots who watch fox will likely go out and repeat his bullshit claims and be laughed at by anyone who doesn’t watch fox and knows the meaning of the word MAJORITY! Turn the channel.

I’d pay to see Stewart have Hannity in that chair trying to explain that. He’d get laughed right off the stage.

TfT said:
Perhaps the headline oft this article should be changed to: Stewart is NOT objective. I agree dronetek, Jon never holds anyone else to account…he, like his lib buddies, lives in his little anti-fox bubble and he can’t get out of it….they hate that conservatives have a voice on the airwaves.

Another attack on Stewart? Can you honestly be trying to claim that they’re a news outlet? I guess P.T. Barnum was right! You folks refuse to deal with reality. It’s really kind of sad that you can’t defend that nutwork and instead resort to attacking those of us who recognize compost when we see it!

roxsteady said:
Can you honestly say that fox is a news outlet? They gave 1 million dollars to the Republican Govenors Association. At least that’s coming back to haunt them if you’ve checked the polling on Republicans govenors lately. Those of you who try and defend them because of their ratings are delusional.

It’s funny how you seem to think good ratings don’t make for a good news channel, but bad ratings do make for a bad governor.

I’ve always said Fox is the WWF to the rest of the sports world. They get huge audiences, put on a good show and try to make people believe they are for real.

roxsteady said:
Last night Ed Schultz

BWAAAAAAAAA, immediately disqualifing any integrity of post. But that was a short trip wasn’t it?

BadGenome said:
It’s funny how you seem to think good ratings don’t make for a good news channel, but bad ratings do make for a bad governor.

Good ratings don’t equal a good news channel. Do you really not understand why anyone with a brain laughs at fox? It’s right there in your face that they’re not a real news org but, you folks continue to ignore these facts like the one I previously pointed out and just attack. Giving money to one political party? Repeatedly being caught splicing in footage from larger rallies and too many other embarrassing stunts to name and you still defend them? Now that’s comedy!

Penguin60 said:
BWAAAAAAAAA, immediately disqualifing any integrity of post. But that was a short trip wasn’t it?

What about Walker’s claim? Was that funny? Do you have anything to say about that? Neither did that imbecile who conducted the interview on fox. But, thanks for proving my point. Ed didn’t make up those numbers. I don’t blame you for ignoring what I said. It’s indefensible. Better to change the subject. It’s the typical wingnut response to facts.

roxsteady said:
Good ratings don’t equal a good news channel. Do you really not understand why anyone with a brain laughs at fox? It’s right there in your face that they’re not a real news org but, you folks continue to ignore these facts like the one I previously pointed out and just attack. Giving money to one political party? Repeatedly being caught splicing in footage from larger rallies and too many other embarrassing stunts to name and you still defend them? Now that’s comedy!

I didn’t defend them. I just pointed out that you seem to want to have it both ways. Kinda like how you watch MSNBC and so presumably think they’re a good news channel despite the fact that they are not only biased but actively dishonest. Why does Fox’s supposed dishonesty bother you so but MSNBC’s doesn’t?

I remember several weeks ago when FAUX News showed the poll results regarding collective bargaining rights and had the numbers reversed. Another example was when Stewart caught Hannity showing footage from the wrong rally. I have watched the MSM my entire life and I have never seen anything come close to this type of irresponsible and deceptive action. Oh, a please do not say it was a mistake. Their reporters commented on the poll numbers which were shown. Even though they are caught with their pants down, their ignorant viewers simply do not care because they are blind to reality.

BadGenome said:
I didn’t defend them. I just pointed out that you seem to want to have it both ways. Kinda like how you watch MSNBC and so presumably think they’re a good news channel despite the fact that they are not only biased but actively dishonest. Why does Fox’s supposed dishonesty bother you so but MSNBC’s doesn’t?

I’m not sure what dishonesty you’re talking about on MSNBC but, I thought this article was about fox? You’re changing the subject again. What did you think of fox allowing Walker to get away with that bold faced lie? Doesn’t that bother you? Or instead of news, do you prefer the propaganda because as I said, they tell you what you want to hear? Clearly it’s the latter.

I have to go now. This is just embarrassing. Whenever I come to this site I feel like I’m beating up the retarded kids. It’s just not a fair fight! I can’t wait for Obama’s second term. The heads of every wingnut bagger here will explode!

Jon is right =D

Stewart destroyed him with the same exact tactic he uses with every other Fox stooge that comes on his show. Do your homework next time Bret.

roxsteady said:
I have to go now. This is just embarrassing. Whenever I come to this site I feel like I’m beating up the retarded kids. It’s just not a fair fight! I can’t wait for Obama’s second term. The heads of every wingnut bagger here will explode!

You are, and yes when Obama wins a second term, most likely in a landslide and the Repubs lose the House there is going to be a lot of fun to be had the day after the election next year. Can’t wait.

HuskersLoveBo said:
I remember several weeks ago when FAUX News showed the poll results regarding collective bargaining rights and had the numbers reversed. Another example was when Stewart caught Hannity showing footage from the wrong rally. I have watched the MSM my entire life and I have never seen anything come close to this type of irresponsible and deceptive action. Oh, a please do not say it was a mistake. Their reporters commented on the poll numbers which were shown. Even though they are caught with their pants down, their ignorant viewers simply do not care because they are blind to reality.

Fox News Lies and everyone knows this even the teabaggers that watch it, but they don’t care because they are lying for their side. The modern Republican party is probably the most cynical political party in the history of the world, aside from the NDSAP of course.

roxsteady said:
Do you really not understand why anyone with a brain laughs at fox?

So says the “brain” that uses big ed schultz as a reference to quality news casts and the “truth”. ROTFLMAO!

Just a few highlights:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/16/ed-schultz-on-ma-election_n_426068.html

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ed-schultz-threatens-to-burn-down-msnbc-studios-breaks-down-crying/#

ChrisNH said:
To a Lib, fawning over Obamo = ‘Objective News Gathering.’

Everyone knows this to be true.

The jig is up on Obamo; you can see Leftist media hacks doing their utmost to coddle & breast-feed him.

It is, at the same time, hilarious and pathetic. But Leftist media hacks are the amoebas of society; nothing more ought to be expected from these trollops.

I hope you do realize that he is going to win a second term, you should probably learn to get used to Obama for awhile he has 6 years left to torture you and keep you awake at night, tee hee.

I think what I love most is how easily Stewart gets under the right’s skin and makes their defense look stupid.
Baier: Why are we the best-rated news show?
Well, guess what, Bret; Jersey Shore gets 8 million viewers. What does that say about the tastes of the masses?

Barack Must Go said:
I noticed you did not mention that Major was also a guest on ” FOX NETWORK “’s, RED EYE with Gregg Gutfeld last night. Were you aware and it just didn’t fit in with your liberal ” someday ” fantasy?

By the way Baier spells his first name with only one t at the end.

WTF is Red Eye with Gregg Gutfeld?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Jersey Shore gets 8 million viewers

Those are the same “brains’ that watch Stewart. LMAO

BadGenome said:
Not only was the Rally to Restore Sanity whiter than a Klan rally, it also featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie.

Sir, im offended that YOU, a frequent an active card carrying member of the Klan, whos attended numerous rallies would make such a statement.

My regards,
DAVID DUKE

glenn113 said:
I’ve always said Fox is the WWF to the rest of the sports world. They get huge audiences, put on a good show and try to make people believe they are for real.

Which is different from ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NPR and the rest of the left wing echo chamber how?

roxsteady said:
I’m not sure what dishonesty you’re talking about on MSNBC but, I thought this article was about fox? You’re changing the subject again. What did you think of fox allowing Walker to get away with that bold faced lie? Doesn’t that bother you? Or instead of news, do you prefer the propaganda because as I said, they tell you what you want to hear? Clearly it’s the latter.

Oh, I thought this was about media bias. I also thought MSNBC was fair game since you mentioned Ed Schultz. I’m sorry for getting off topic. We now return you to our regularly scheduled content:

FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!
HURRRRRRRRRR!

(“What MSNBC dishonest?” Christ almighty…)

ProObamaAgenda said:
Sir, im offended that YOU, a frequent an active card carrying member of the Klan, whos attended numerous rallies would make such a statement.

My regards,
DAVID DUKE

Shouldn’t you be standing outside of a polling station with a nightstick somewhere, ProO?

BadGenome said:

(“What MSNBC dishonest?” Christ almighty…)

*dishonesty

EDIT BUTTON PL0X

Color Me Badd said:
WTF is Red Eye with Gregg Gutfeld?

Google it.

Barack Must Go said:
Google it.

If you are comparing the Daily Show one of the most popular shows on cable, to a show that I have to go google to find out WTF it is. That is probably a pretty idiotic comparison.

Barack Must Go said:
Color Me Badd said:
WTF is Red Eye with Gregg Gutfeld?
Google it.

All she needs to do is page up. There’s a Mediaite story at the top of this page. Another rocket scientist.

BadGenome said:
I didn’t defend them. I just pointed out that you seem to want to have it both ways. Kinda like how you watch MSNBC and so presumably think they’re a good news channel despite the fact that they are not only biased but actively dishonest. Why does Fox’s supposed dishonesty bother you so but MSNBC’s doesn’t?

Really, the MSM does it all the time. Please give specific times and dates where any MSM has reversed poll numbers or has shown footage from a different rally. I will be waiting for a long time.

This last statement was greeted with audience laughter, and Stewart himself attacks the point.

They were probably all high at the time.

Color me Ignorant says:

If you are comparing the Daily Show one of the most popular shows on cable, to a show that I have to go google to find out WTF it is. That is probably a pretty idiotic comparison.

Stop playing ignorant, you know exactly what it is.

Color Me Badd said:
I hope you do realize that he is going to win a second term, you should probably learn to get used to Obama for awhile he has 6 years left to torture you and keep you awake at night, tee hee.

So, he’s going to be that really mediocre two-term president he declared he wouldn’t be? I hope you realize that Mrs. Butter-Drenched Lobster will convince big-ears to give it up. His thin skin is peeling off right before her eyes; Obamo doesn’t have the manliness to withstand more of the bludgeoning he so richly deserves.

Okay, Jon. We’ve established the left doesn’t think Fox is a real news channel. Now what?

ChrisNH said:
So, he’s going to be that really mediocre two-term president he declared he wouldn’t be? I hope you realize that Mrs. Butter-Drenched Lobster will convince big-ears to give it up. His thin skin is peeling off right before her eyes; Obamo doesn’t have the manliness to withstand more of the bludgeoning he so richly deserves.

I know you hate his guts and he gets you all angry (tee hee), but don’t do anything stupid okay and tell your teabagger friends to keep their guns at home when they go protest.

I love it when these white pseudo-liberals like Stewart, harp on Fox News. I’m glad I wasn’t raised on a steady diet of political correctness. It has to leave a bad taste in the mouth. LOL.

newzmaker said:
I love it when these white pseudo-liberals like Stewart, harp on Fox News. I’m glad I wasn’t raised on a steady diet of political correctness. It has to leave a bad taste in the mouth. LOL.

So does your boyfriend’s penis, brush your teeth.

Color Me Badd said:
If you are comparing the Daily Show one of the most popular shows on cable, to a show that I have to go google to find out WTF it is. That is probably a pretty idiotic comparison.

So now popularity is a good thing. Except when it isn’t.

Color me Ignorant, you are embarrassing yourself more than usual this morning. teehee

Stewart is a comedian, liberal saps, not a journalist. Learn the difference. Educate yourselves.

Color Me Badd said:
So does your boyfriend’s penis, brush your teeth.

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! Stay classy. You must make the rest of the lemmings jealous with your command of the English language. Tee Hee.

Color Me Badd said:
So does your boyfriend’s penis, brush your teeth.

Deranged AND homophobic! You are the total package, girl.

newzmaker said:
Stewart is a comedian, liberal saps, not a journalist. Learn the difference. Educate yourselves.

He’s not a comedian, he’s a liberal pundit hiding behind a clown nose as evidenced by the fact that he gets more applause than laughs.

Color Me Badd said:
tell your teabagger friends to keep their guns at home when they go protest.

OK. We’ll use the pitchforks that we wrested out of Obamo’s limp wrists. You know…the ones he thought he had a ‘firm grip’ on. Tee hee.

BadGenome said:
He’s not a comedian, he’s a liberal pundit hiding behind a clown nose as evidenced by the fact that he gets more applause than laughs.

I won’t disagree. I seldom laugh when I read Stewart material here.

writer said:
Okay, Jon. We’ve established the left doesn’t think Fox is a real news channel. Now what?

Let’s establish that the left thinks Comedy Central is a news network.

newzmaker said:
I won’t disagree. I seldom laugh when I read Stewart material here.

That’s okay. He laughs at own jokes. (Is there anything more unbecoming than a 50 year old man giggling like a stoned teenager?)

Pablo said:
Let’s establish that the left thinks Comedy Central is a news network.

And the Mediaite teabags think I am serious, tee hee.

Color Me Dumbb said:
I know you hate his guts and he gets you all angry (tee hee), but don’t do anything stupid okay and tell your teabagger friends to keep their guns at home when they go protest.

Oh, no. We’re supposed to bring the guns. The One said so.

Color Me Badd said:
And the Mediaite teabags think I am serious, tee hee.

No, I would think most conservatives think you have a disability, and don’t take you serious. But you seem like an excellent spokesperson for most of the lemmings. Tee Hee.

90% of the voting bloc of the so-called ‘liberal elites’ in DC, are uneducated/illiterates. As witnessed by the chicken scratch they post here constantly.

Pablo said:
Oh, no. We’re supposed to bring the guns. The One said so.

Color Me Dumbb how long did it take you think that one up? I bet you have been working on that bit of genius for weeks.

BadGenome said:
That’s okay. He laughs at own jokes. (Is there anything more unbecoming than a 50 year old man giggling like a stoned teenager?)

LOL.

newzmaker said:
90% of the voting bloc of the so-called ‘liberal elites’ in DC, are uneducated/illiterates. As witnessed by the chicken scratch they post here constantly.

You’re just sad that I pwned you about your boyfriend.

Penguin60 said:
So early in the day to call the most inane and idiotic post but definitely in the running. Congrats!
Broad unfounded generalizations, the hallmark of a weak mind.

Yep, you’re jealous, alright! Get a life…LOL

Penguin60 said:
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! Stay classy. You must make the rest of the lemmings jealous with your command of the English language. Tee Hee.

I have to say as someone who rarely ever posts in here but reads the comments all the time. Color Me Badd makes you people look really foolish all the time, she is hilarious. Tee Hee, indeed.

You people?

Bad Genome says:

Deranged AND homophobic! You are the total package, girl.

But on the plus side, she looks just like Megyn Kelly. Just ask, her.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Bad Genome says:

Deranged AND homophobic! You are the total package, girl.

But on the plus side, she looks just like Megyn Kelly. Just ask, her.

Wow, she really got to you.

I have a low tolerance for stupid, Night Nurse. We probably won’t get along.

Tormentor, that’s because you’re one of ‘those’ people.

Night Nurse said:
Color Me Badd makes you people look really foolish all the time, she is hilarious.

Color Me Badd said:
So does your boyfriend’s penis, brush your teeth.

Yep, she really got us on that one, that is hilarious. Glad you condone it homophobe. Tee Hee.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I have a low tolerance for stupid, Night Nurse. We probably won’t get along.

I don’t get in your little partisan arguments I am just making an observation. CMB gets to you and a lot of other people in here and it is entertaining to watch. I know I appreciate it.

Night Nurse said:
I have to say as someone who rarely ever posts in here but reads the comments all the time. Color Me Badd makes you people look really foolish all the time, she is hilarious. Tee Hee, indeed.

Can you go back to lurking, please? One delusional psychotic shrew is enough, thanks.

Dem4Ever said:
Yep, you’re jealous, alright! Get a life…LOL

With a name like yours, you really should take your own advice. LMAO

Liberal Tormentor said:
Bad Genome says:

Deranged AND homophobic! You are the total package, girl.

But on the plus side, she looks just like Megyn Kelly. Just ask, her.

Going by the pictures on her website, I’d say she looks more like a struggling, mentally ill anti-folk singer. Which is exactly what I’d have guessed from her posts here.

BFD said:
Ahh..it was nice to Major Garrett on Morning Joe this morning.He seems so much happier being a real journalist visiting a real news show now that he doesn’t have to carry water for the GOP anymore. Someday that will be Brett Baier.

LOL, I didn’t see the interview. So let me guess, I bet he never said that. You are just making up stuff again aren’t you?

BadGenome said:
Going by the pictures on her website

Website? Oy!

Dem4Ever said:
Yep, you’re jealous, alright! Get a life…LOL

Penguin – Please ignore this post. I hadn’t had my coffee yet…sorry.

Dem4Ever said:
Penguin – Please ignore this post. I hadn’t had my coffee yet…sorry.

Apology accepted.

gordonbloyershow said:
BFD said:
Ahh..it was nice to Major Garrett on Morning Joe this morning.He seems so much happier being a real journalist visiting a real news show now that he doesn’t have to carry water for the GOP anymore. Someday that will be Brett Baier.

LOL, I didn’t see the interview. So let me guess, I bet he never said that. You are just making up stuff again aren’t you?

I have to admit, Major does seem to have arrived at a place in which he no longer has to defend an employer who constantly embarrassed and humiliated him.

Michelle-in-Utah, you must be feeling so much more at ease now that Lard Limbaugh has selected the candidate for whom you will vote.

roxsteady said:
I’m not sure what dishonesty you’re talking about on MSNBC but, I thought this article was about fox? You’re changing the subject again. What did you think of fox allowing Walker to get away with that bold faced lie? Doesn’t that bother you? Or instead of news, do you prefer the propaganda because as I said, they tell you what you want to hear? Clearly it’s the latter.

Box of Rocks you have been laughed off this site sooooo many times. You are a proven liar. Go back under your bed.

roxsteady said:
I have to go now. This is just embarrassing. Whenever I come to this site I feel like I’m beating up the retarded kids. It’s just not a fair fight! I can’t wait for Obama’s second term. The heads of every wingnut bagger here will explode!

Hey everybody. Copy this post and save it. We will see if Box of Rocks shows up after Obama loses.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I have to admit, Major does seem to have arrived at a place in which he no longer has to defend an employer who constantly embarrassed and humiliated him.

In other words, YOU LIED. Why did I know that?

OxyCon said:
Was there more to that? Or was it all just Stewart acting like the usual hostile dick that he is?

Hostile? Stewart? He’s actually pretty tame.

BadGenome said:
Can you go back to lurking, please? One delusional psychotic shrew is enough, thanks.

I’d prefer that she just stick to using one account. Nobody else is dumb enough to think that Color Me Dumbb is impressing anyone.

BadGenome said:
Not only was the Rally to Restore Sanity whiter than a Klan rally, it also featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie.

Total bullshit. I was there, and the audience was very mixed. Just from my spot I could turn in a circle and see wide variety of ethnic backgrounds. People also predicted that it would be a bunch of kids, which was also bullshit.

Dem4Ever said:
Everybody is jealous of Fox News and their unparalled success.

Same with those truth tellers at South Park, and the Simpsons.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I think what I love most is how easily Stewart gets under the right’s skin and makes their defense look stupid.Baier: Why are we the best-rated news show?Well, guess what, Bret; Jersey Shore gets 8 million viewers. What does that say about the tastes of the masses?

I think if Napolean had not waited 17 hours to dispatch grouchy to chase after Blucher, that he may have won Waterloo.

CosmosDan said:
Same with those truth tellers at South Park, and the Simpsons.

It’s confirmed that your an idiot. South Park is the best.

This just in: Fox still refers to Myanmar as Burma!

FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!

slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Because his guest was from Fox and that was the topic?

OxyCon said:
Was there more to that? Or was it all just Stewart acting like the usual hostile dick that he is?

So expressing his honest opinion on his own show is being a hostile dick? I hope you judge others by that same standard.

The left is constantly defending Glenn Beck for expressing his opinions.

BadGenome said:
Not only was the Rally to Restore Sanity whiter than a Klan rally, it also featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/24/krauthammer-suggests-jon-stewart-rally-is-the-new-standard-for-lack-of-racial-diversity/

CosmosDan said:
Total bullshit. I was there, and the audience was very mixed. Just from my spot I could turn in a circle and see wide variety of ethnic backgrounds. People also predicted that it would be a bunch of kids, which was also bullshit.

You’re right. Just LOOK at this incredibly diverse crowd!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Rally_to_Restore_Sanity_and_or_Fear_-_2010-10-30_-_Panora_of_Crowd.jpg

You’ll agree, at least, that there was an Islamist who lusts for the blood of Salman Rushdie on stage?

AntiHyperbole said:
Or when somebody does, Stewart is quick to slap on the clown nose, and run from a discussion that he may get embarrassed in.

I’ve seen this argument several times. It’s pretty bogus IMO. Satire and news are two different forms of media and you can’t judge them equally. If someone has real stats as they do for Fox showing how many buts Jon does mocking the left, vs the right I’d love to see them. I think it’s more like 65/35 or 70/30 but I like the show so I perhaps I’m being to generous.

AntiHyperbole said:
But people need to stop worrying about incurring his wrath and point out how utterly disingenuous he is.

How do you see him as being disingenuous? The reality is that his job description as news satire is very different than that of a journalist. He’s not that influential. He’s just good at what he does, and he’s smart and knowledgeable. The problem people have with going after him is that he actually researches his material, not for the news sake, but for the sake of satire. Satire works best when it’s based on facts. You can make up jokes , and often the jokes are stupid and juvenile, but just as often the point being driven home through satire is right on. Jon is able to call out the bullshit that exists in politics and now in the media, on a regular basis. He says he was amazed when he first started at how often actual reporters told him they wished they could say what he gets to say.
I’ve seen people go after him and it doesn’t work because his material is fact based. He corrects minor details they complained about only to drive the original point home again with the corrected details.

CosmosDan said:
So expressing his honest opinion on his own show is being a hostile dick? I hope you judge others by that same standard.

Just as Bill O’Reilly is a hostile dick for habitually shouting down his guests, Stewart is a hostile dick for throwing out applause lines to try and shut down Baier. (Maybe he’s more of a passive aggressive dick, but trying to put too fine a point on a dick does no one any good.)

BadGenome said:
You’re right. Just LOOK at this incredibly diverse crowd!

As I said, I was there, so I don’t give a rats ass about select photos. Believe the bias hype if you want.

BadGenome said:
You’ll agree, at least, that there was an Islamist who lusts for the blood of Salman Rushdie on stage?

I also don’t care much about sound bites uttered years ago. It’s a ridiculous standard of judgment.

We get it the opinion shows are just that and are 100% tea, so why have the nerve to claim “Fake Fair and Balanced”, with all the bias crap? Fox and Fiends are no longer a news show and at one time they were about 60/40 to the news side. In the stories that are “not” tea hate, but standard news, they do just fine. When Douce vomits the tea hate, with those grade school faces and eye rolls, it’s no longer news,…. its Fox bias crap!

BadGenome said:
Just as Bill O’Reilly is a hostile dick for habitually shouting down his guests, Stewart is a hostile dick for throwing out applause lines to try and shut down Baier. (Maybe he’s more of a passive aggressive dick, but trying to put too fine a point on a dick does no one any good.)

Actually, Jon’s conservative guests have complimented him for the exact opposite. He allows them to voice their opinion without hostility, even though he’s not shy about disagreeing. He did nothing to shut down Baier. If Baier failed to defend his network adequately it’s not because of anything Jon did. The whole ratings thing has always been a lame argument in defense of News or fair and balanced. Jon is exactly right, one does not equate with the other. Popular, financially successful, does not mean quality or good.

CosmosDan said:
I also don’t care much about sound bites uttered years ago. It’s a ridiculous standard of judgment.

I don’t think that repeatedly describing – calmly and at great length – why he thinks Salman Rushdie deserves to die for writing a book is a “sound bite”. I do, however, think it’s hilarious that such a person was a performer at a rally which was intended to restore sanity. (Although as perverse as it was, I guess I can’t really complain since it’s about goddamn time the Daily Show did something funny.)

CosmosDan said:
Total bullshit. I was there, and the audience was very mixed. Just from my spot I could turn in a circle and see wide variety of ethnic backgrounds. People also predicted that it would be a bunch of kids, which was also bullshit.

I’m sure, that like Matt Taibbi said about Glenn’s Restoring Honor event, there was “a few scattered minorities” there, but it was pretty dang white. Actually, I’m sure both events had diverse races present, but both of them were also overwhelmingly white, which doesn’t mean a thing except whenever somebody points out how “white” the tea parties are, we can also point out how “white” the Stewart/Colbert Rally was.

It;s total BS that the Stewart/Colbert Rally featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie?

Steve_27 said:
This just in: Fox still refers to Myanmar as Burma!

FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!
FOX LIES!

very irrelevant. perhaps they have a non-paying ‘fellowship’ for you at media matters..

cheers!

Calvin said:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/24/krauthammer-suggests-jon-stewart-rally-is-the-new-standard-for-lack-of-racial-diversity/

Did Krauthammer back this up with anything other than his opinion?

Was it , predominantly white? Yes, as is our nation. It took little effort to glance around and see people in the crowd of various ethnic backgrounds, and race. Just as you would walking down any major city street. I don’t know Krauthammer at all, but he pulled this out of his ass and he’s dead wrong.
Want to compare that to the % at Beck’s rally?

BadGenome said:
I don’t think that repeatedly describing – calmly and at great length – why he thinks Salman Rushdie deserves to die for writing a book is a “sound bite”. I do, however, think it’s hilarious that such a person was a performer at a rally which was intended to restore sanity. (Although as perverse as it was, I guess I can’t really complain since it’s about goddamn time the Daily Show did something funny.)

This, and it doesn’t really seem like he’s changed.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sean-hannity-and-panel-rail-on-the-rally-to-restore-cat-stevensyusuf-islam/comment-page-8/#comment-197467

Calvin said:
I’m sure, that like Matt Taibbi said about Glenn’s Restoring Honor event, there was “a few scattered minorities” there, but it was pretty dang white. Actually, I’m sure both events had diverse races present, but both of them were also overwhelmingly white, which doesn’t mean a thing except whenever somebody points out how “white” the tea parties are, we can also point out how “white” the Stewart/Colbert Rally was.

It;s total BS that the Stewart/Colbert Rally featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie?

I think he’s saying that there were tons of minorities at the Viacom rally, but you just can’t see them in any pictures because they were segregated from the larger crowd. I wonder if they were given their own water fountains and restrooms, too?

Calvin said:
I’m sure, that like Matt Taibbi said about Glenn’s Restoring Honor event, there was “a few scattered minorities” there, but it was pretty dang white. Actually, I’m sure both events had diverse races present, but both of them were also overwhelmingly white, which doesn’t mean a thing except whenever somebody points out how “white” the tea parties are, we can also point out how “white” the Stewart/Colbert Rally was.

Honestly Calvin, I don’t think there’s any realistic comparison between Beck’s rally and Jon’s for diversity. Stewart wins by a mile IMO. Then again, I don’t think you’ve seen me criticize Beck’s rally for that reason much if ever. Different causes attract different groups.

Calvin said:

It;s total BS that the Stewart/Colbert Rally featured a guy who called for the death of Salman Rushdie?

That’s not what I said. I think it’s foolish criticism to dig around someone’s past, find something they did or said years ago, and keep repeating it as if it somehow disqualifies them from ever doing anything positive again. It happens all the time and it’s just a foolish pattern based on ignorant shit stirring IMO.

CosmosDan said:
I’ve seen this argument several times. It’s pretty bogus IMO. Satire and news are two different forms of media and you can’t judge them equally. If someone has real stats as they do for Fox showing how many buts Jon does mocking the left, vs the right I’d love to see them. I think it’s more like 65/35 or 70/30 but I like the show so I perhaps I’m being to generous.

How do you see him as being disingenuous? The reality is that his job description as news satire is very different than that of a journalist. He’s not that influential. He’s just good at what he does, and he’s smart and knowledgeable. The problem people have with going after him is that he actually researches his material, not for the news sake, but for the sake of satire. Satire works best when it’s based on facts. You can make up jokes , and often the jokes are stupid and juvenile, but just as often the point being driven home through satire is right on. Jon is able to call out the bullshit that exists in politics and now in the media, on a regular basis. He says he was amazed when he first started at how often actual reporters told him they wished they could say what he gets to say.
I’ve seen people go after him and it doesn’t work because his material is fact based. He corrects minor details they complained about only to drive the original point home again with the corrected details.

Exactly. Well said.

Calvin said:
This, and it doesn’t really seem like he’s changed.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sean-hannity-and-panel-rail-on-the-rally-to-restore-cat-stevensyusuf-islam/comment-page-8/#comment-197467

I don’t think he’s changed because if you spend your foolish youth (in Cat’s case, his 40s) baying for a fellow’s blood, the least you can do is apologize to him.

This is hilarious! Here’s an audience, watching a comedian do a show for the comedy channel, they’re mocking a journalist with many high profile interviews under his belt, former chief White House correspondent, and respected anchor, while believing that they’re getting the straight scoop from a guy whose job it is to present things out of context for a laugh! Good thing most of them don’t vote. :)

CosmosDan said:
Honestly Calvin, I don’t think there’s any realistic comparison between Beck’s rally and Jon’s for diversity. Stewart wins by a mile IMO.

“It’s very white,” said Tahir Messam, a 25-year-old computer expert from Brooklyn, who is African American and came with Pakistani and Chinese friends. “But most of America is white.”

Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/31/its-not-liberal-its-rational-wapo-casts-sanity-rally-meeting-middle#ixzz1Hd6xUixY

Maybe that was part of Stewart’s comedy. Have a rally to restore sanity, then have a speaker who said someone should be killed for writing a book. Come on. That’s kinda funny.

When your ratings dominate in regular news cycles, your entertaining and informative. When they are tops during a news crisis (now, Giffords shooting, etc), then you are the most trusted news sources as well.

Stewart’s politics and persuasions are well known. I just wish he’d tone down the rudeness a bit. Not just against FNC, but against news viewers. If you can’t differentiate between real news and opinion, even within the same hour, then cable news is NOT your biggest issue.

Bret Baier and Shepherd Smith are tow of the reasonable voices on Fox News. Other than that it serves as a right wing political operation aggressively promoting the Tea Party movement and now the Republican presidential candidates with many of them currently or formerly employed by the network.

roxsteady said:
Can you honestly say that fox is a news outlet? They gave 1 million dollars to the Republican Govenors Association. At least that’s coming back to haunt them if you’ve checked the polling on Republicans govenors lately. Those of you who try and defend them because of their ratings are delusional. As Jon pointed out, ratings don’t equal quality. The reason their ratings are so high is because they tell the sheep who watch them what they want to hear. Last night Ed Schultz showed a clip of that cockeyed govenor Walker claiming that the majority of the letters he got after his union busting bill was introduced were favorable but, the AP got access to those letter through FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) and by a whopping 5 to 1 they were letters against him. The idiots who watch fox will likely go out and repeat his bullshit claims and be laughed at by anyone who doesn’t watch fox and knows the meaning of the word MAJORITY! Turn the channel.

If you believe what that clown know-nothing blowhard sergeant Shultz say, yopu are truly beyond hope.

Roger ailes is the main with the objective news plan. So objective is he that he called the president a socialist and npr nazis. It shouldn’t effect his judgement or anything though

writer said:
Maybe that was part of Stewart’s comedy. Have a rally to restore sanity, then have a speaker who said someone should be killed for writing a book. Come on. That’s kinda funny.

Almost as funny as the fact that Yusuf Islam was actively promoted as sane in contrast to the insanity of Ozzy Osbourne. Even more hysterically, the guy who bit the head off a bat, drank Nikki Sixx’s urine, and fried his brain with drugs turns out to have been the sanest person in attendance. Oh, those kids and their irony!

WillP said:
Bret Baier and Shepherd Smith are tow of the reasonable voices on Fox News. Other than that it serves as a right wing political operation aggressively promoting the Tea Party movement ..

And .. ? For decades, the left had the entire thing, and now you want to boob about a network that actually has opinion guys promoting conservatism? BFD, man, get a life.

BadGenome said:
I don’t think that repeatedly describing – calmly and at great length – why he thinks Salman Rushdie deserves to die for writing a book is a “sound bite”. I do, however, think it’s hilarious that such a person was a performer at a rally which was intended to restore sanity. (Although as perverse as it was, I guess I can’t really complain since it’s about goddamn time the Daily Show did something funny.)

Right, because a bad judgment call made 20 years ago, means you can never ever accomplish anything good again. That’s how all people should be judged.

Calvin said:
This, and it doesn’t really seem like he’s changed.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sean-hannity-and-panel-rail-on-the-rally-to-restore-cat-stevensyusuf-islam/comment-page-8/#comment-197467

Hannity? Really? we an change the subject now.

Steve_27 said:
It’s confirmed that your an idiot. South Park is the best.

Never pass up a chance for name calling. I didn’t slam South Park.

Mr.Papshmer said:
And .. ? For decades, the left had the entire thing, and now you want to boob about a network that actually has opinion guys promoting conservatism? BFD, man, get a life.

no personally I’d just like some objective reporting. People criticize jon stewart all the time for crossing over into the world of news from entertainment, but it’s not him that’s doing the overlap between entertainment and news, it’s the media outlets who are trying to make news into entertainment which means not covering hard stories and not doing actual reporting. Part of the reason I personally like anderson cooper is that he’s actually on the ground with people, he actually interviews live subjects. That’s news! not sitting around in some echo chamber, shouting over someone in a debate or cutting off their mic. It’s despicable.

lane said:
When your ratings dominate in regular news cycles, your entertaining and informative. When they are tops during a news crisis (now, Giffords shooting, etc), then you are the most trusted news sources as well. Stewart’s politics and persuasions are well known. I just wish he’d tone down the rudeness a bit. Not just against FNC, but against news viewers. If you can’t differentiate between real news and opinion, even within the same hour, then cable news is NOT your biggest issue.

it’s hard to differentiate when the news casters straight up lie as in the case about obama spending a billion dollars a day in india.

CosmosDan said:
Right, because a bad judgment call made 20 years ago, means you can never ever accomplish anything good again. That’s how all people should be judged.

I’d agree, except that repeatedly calling for someone’s death isn’t a bad judgment call or even a series of bad judgment calls. He really did want Rushdie to die for insulting his religion. And as I said before, if Cat has had a change of heart, the very least he could do is apologize. But he hasn’t; all he’s done is dissembled a bit and lamely claimed that he was either joking or merely stating what Islamic law prescribes without advocating violence. Even now, he wants Rushdie to be tried for blasphemy.

Interesting how, after all that decidedly illiberal shit, and he was received very warmly by the supposedly liberal crowd. I can only imagine how they would have reacted to Glenn Beck. Personally, I’m torn between “rudely” and “violently”. But since you actually attended this staggeringly white rally, and I deeply value your opinion, what say you?

Nationman said:
That’s news! not sitting around in some echo chamber, shouting over someone in a debate or cutting off their mic. It’s despicable.

Ahhh, you’re one of the people he’s talking about, who has difficulty differentiating between news and opinion shows.

And at least Fox does differentiate. Back in the days of network-only news, they _always_ worked opinion into their reporting. Hell, I remember Walter Cronkite (the king of news, right?) doing a story from Vietnam which was basically a five minute op-ed into why the war was a lost cause while two GI’s were doing power hits through a shotgun barrel.

AntiHyperbole said:
Also, I think Jon has now told Bair, Shep Smith, and Chris Wallace that they are the only quality fair people over at Fox. Has Megan Kelly been on the DS yet? Is this list going to keep growing until its only the Fox opinion guys that are singled out as bias, thus somewhat validating Fox’s claim?

Maybe this will help.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/10/30/jon-stewart-explains-fox-news/

It is a shame that Stewart didn’t tear him a new hole. This is why I despise Jon Stewart. Imagine if a liberal had gone on Glenn Beck’s program? He would need a bullet proof vest. Liberals are always the 1st to play nice with teabagger/GOP pigs. It is a crying shame.

Right. Bret and Shep are the only two are the only two reasonable voices? Oh, how about Bill Hemmer, Martha MacCallum, John Scott, and Jenna Lee? Then there are the reporters, Greg Palcot, Steve Harrigan, Ainsley Earhardt, Kimberly Gilfoyle, Heather Nauert, Mike Tobin, I could go on and on. No one can give me ONE example of bias reporting from any of these people. I have no idea what their political leanings are because they are PROFESSIONALS. So you can believe that Fox News hard news is biased, but you would be wrong.

You guys kill me. Fox News is no more represented by Glenn Beck or Hannity as the others are by Chris Matthews, Lawrence O’Donnell, and Keith Olbermann. They get to have opinion shows and Fox doesn’t? Give me a freakin break.

BadGenome said:
You’re right. Just LOOK at this incredibly diverse crowd!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Rally_to_Restore_Sanity_and_or_Fear_-_2010-10-30_-_Panora_of_Crowd.jpg

that’s a whole lotta white.

No Stewart, Foxnews is not completely objective, that’s why they call it, “news and commentary”. If you want completely objective news reporting I suggest you go to CNN, or better yet, MSNBC…(just kidding about that last part).

BadGenome said:
I’d agree, except that repeatedly calling for someone’s death isn’t a bad judgment call or even a series of bad judgment calls.

You say repeatedly, It was twice within a period of just a few months right? I’m not a fan of any religious fundamentalism , and certainly not anything that extreme. That said, It was over 20 years ago, and he had a small part in a musical bit at the rally that culminated with Love Train. It’s ridiculous to keep harping on it as if it’s relevant.

BadGenome said:

BadGenome said:
Interesting how, after all that decidedly illiberal shit, and he was received very warmly by the supposedly liberal crowd. I can only imagine how they would have reacted to Glenn Beck. Personally, I’m torn between “rudely” and “violently”. But since you actually attended this staggeringly white rally, and I deeply value your opinion, what say you?

I’m not interested in pointless speculation about things that aren’t comparable anyway. I think if Ted Nugent had a Train song, he’d have been welcome, but ultimately it’s minor nonsense. There are nice people, and hateful assholes in both camps, as posts here demonstrate daily.

James, Al Sharpton was on Beck’s program. He a conservative?

James Randal said:
It is a shame that Stewart didn’t tear him a new hole. This is why I despise Jon Stewart. Imagine if a liberal had gone on Glenn Beck’s program? He would need a bullet proof vest. Liberals are always the 1st to play nice with teabagger/GOP pigs. It is a crying shame.

Here, here…See, sometimes the mask comes off and the real Democrats show their faces. Thanks for confirming what we all truly believe.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Ahhh, you’re one of the people he’s talking about, who has difficulty differentiating between news and opinion shows. And at least Fox does differentiate. Back in the days of network-only news, they _always_ worked opinion into their reporting. Hell, I remember Walter Cronkite (the king of news, right?) doing a story from Vietnam which was basically a five minute op-ed into why the war was a lost cause while two GI’s were doing power hits through a shotgun barrel.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904130006 That’s during the portion labeled as news on fox’s own site btw.

James Randal said:
Imagine if a liberal had gone on Glenn Beck’s program? He would need a bullet proof vest. Liberals are always the 1st to play nice with teabagger/GOP pigs. It is a crying shame.

What a douche. I can’t watch Beck, as he comes on at two in the afternoon, but I do catch O’Reilly often, and he _always_ has liberals on, and unless they get stupid to him, he’s very professional. I do catch Hannity, not often, but he also has liberals on every single day, and while he’s more prone to get into arguments with them, they do have the opportunity to state their case. You’re nothing but a whiny little know-nothing who has never watched Fox News and simply repeats what your handlers tell you to.

CosmosDan said:
There are nice people, and hateful assholes in both camps, as posts here demonstrate daily.

Isn’t that the truth!

Nationman said:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904130006 That’s during the portion labeled as news on fox’s own site btw.

Media Matters! Shit homes, I just blew milk out of my nose! What a frikkin’ douche!

Mr.Papshmer said:
What a douche. I can’t watch Beck, as he comes on at two in the afternoon, but I do catch O’Reilly often, and he _always_ has liberals on, and unless they get stupid to him, he’s very professional. I do catch Hannity, not often, but he also has liberals on every single day, and while he’s more prone to get into arguments with them, they do have the opportunity to state their case. You’re nothing but a whiny little know-nothing who has never watched Fox News and simply repeats what your handlers tell you to.

beck rarely has anyone on his show that disagree with him and if they do he never lets them voice their different opinion.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Media Matters! Shit homes, I just blew milk out of my nose! What a frikkin’ douche!

did you watch the clip at all? About how fox is hosting a virtual tea party on it’s website? Stated by Bill hemmer, the supposed “news” caster.

CosmosDan said:
Right, because a bad judgment call made 20 years ago, means you can never ever accomplish anything good again. That’s how all people should be judged.

I found myself wondering why John Hinckley wasn’t there Restoring Sanity. He would have been perfect.

Calvin said:
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/31/its-not-liberal-its-rational-wapo-casts-sanity-rally-meeting-middle#ixzz1Hd6xUixY

What do you think that means, other than it’s a fact that the US of A is predominantly white? I noticed they tried to imply that interviewing people of various races was some kind of stunt. When Jon cam on stage and made the 10 million joke he said he thought the mix was close to what America is. Mostly white, about 13% black, and a smaller % of others. I don’t have any real numbers for either Jon’s rally of Beck’s. I can tell you from my vantage point there I could easily see people from various backgrounds in my one area and walking by. Lots of different skin tones and dress. So ,…back to my original point, Krauthammer is full of crap.

CosmosDan said:
You say repeatedly, It was twice within a period of just a few months right? I’m not a fan of any religious fundamentalism , and certainly not anything that extreme. That said, It was over 20 years ago, and he had a small part in a musical bit at the rally that culminated with Love Train. It’s ridiculous to keep harping on it as if it’s relevant.

He made his original comments some 20 years ago, sure, but like I said, his more recent stance is that Rushdie should stand trial for blasphemy. Hey, I wonder what kind of penalty that carries under Islamic law…

murf said:
they release corrections & retractions .

FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL FOR THE REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICAN PARTY! THE PLACE TO GO FOR “HEY WE JUST REPORT WHAT WE WANT PROVE US WRONG” !

Fox News Lies

“Liberals” really love there comedians/decision makers.
There entire “philosophy” is one big joke so no suprises there.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Fox News Lies

That’s awesome! It’s like that media matters robot on “Red Eye” the other night! :)

Penguin60 said:
Here, here…See, sometimes the mask comes off and the real Democrats show their faces. Thanks for confirming what we all truly believe.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of liberals fall under the “upper westside” category. They are motivated by a misplaced sense of self-righteousness. It is a crying shame. As teabagger/GOP pigs continue to KILL progressives, weak liberals like Jon Stewart bend over backwards and try to play nice. He went out of his way to bash liberals during his rally in order to prove that he was a moderate. A teabagger/GOP pig would never do that. Main difference between Jon Stewart liberals and Bill Ayers liberals: one group bends over, while the other one fights back. I wish your prophecy was true. I wish more liberals would leave Jon Stewart’s camp.

I love how all da tards on this “web’page” can agree that a comedian makes more sense than they do. John Stewart isn’t saying anything that a normal person with normal facilities can either understand or surmount for himself/herself.

Arguing something for that lack of a news source isn’t news.. It’s a fact. FOX, CNN, MSNBC… all have leanings to one side or the other. Saying FOX news belongs to a ultra-conservative right, is a fact! Why would anyone with a1/2 a brain want to argue that point? This is something all can a agree on isn’t it? Or is da “Teabaggers” to dim to agree with this easy assessment?

Strident Right = Limbaugh, O’Reilly
Strident Left = Olberman, Maddow
Right = Baier
Left = Matthews
Center Right = Scarborough
Center Left = (doesn’t exist)

James Randal said:
Unfortunately, the vast majority of liberals fall under the “upper westside” category. They are motivated by a misplaced sense of self-righteousness. It is a crying shame. As teabagger/GOP pigs continue to KILL progressives, weak liberals like Jon Stewart bend over backwards and try to play nice. He went out of his way to bash liberals during his rally in order to prove that he was a moderate. A teabagger/GOP pig would never do that. Main difference between Jon Stewart liberals and Bill Ayers liberals: one group bends over, while the other one fights back. I wish your prophecy was true. I wish more liberals would leave Jon Stewart’s camp.

To bad your ilk don’t believe in gun rights, huh.
But seriouly, If your kind started a civil war in this country do you think you ilk would win?
Your spicies of drone makes up only 20% of the US population.
Conservatives + Libertarians make up about 50-55% of America.
If you start a war make no mistake, You will lose.
But I truly hope it will not come to that, We can talk things out.
As much as I hate “liberalism” I don’t want to see it go extinct.

James Randal said:
Main difference between Jon Stewart liberals and Bill Ayers liberals: one group bends over, while the other one fights back.

Wow, just amazing. We could use more Liberals/Patriots like Mr. Ayers, those that fight back for what they believe in.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2169

political satire is just that, satire. Will Rogers was the quintessential political satirist. Stewart is very good. Colbert really isn’t (too corny, schmarmy, sophmoric). FOX is conservative. MSNBC is liberal. etc etc. On a related note npr is intelligent programming that only requires an always-on-filter in order to offset their liberal bias. Nothing wrong here. Take from it what you can. My Dad — a staunch conservative — years ago said about Hubert Humphrey (look him up kids) “He’s got some good ideas, don’t discount everything he says”.

The only problem I have with Fox is its wink-and-a-nod “fair and balanced” claim. It’s no different from MSNBC, save for perhaps Fox permits more opposing viewss (and they do, folks). Of course the opposing views get steamrolled but that’s life, liberals. You can’t dominate every news source. Let the righties at least have Fox and talk radio.

Penguin60 said:
Wow, just amazing. We could use more Liberals/Patriots like Mr. Ayers, those that fight back for what they believe in. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2169

And Bill Ayers aint that tough. Unless one considers planting bombs and running away tough. That’s hardly fighting back. That’s called terrorism. Though nothing is more horrific than the fact that some teacher credentialing programs make you spend $40 for one of his propaganda-pamphlet-sized textbooks.

Stewart: “I wasn’t aware that news ratings equals quality. But now that I know that, I’m going to reassess my opinion of Three’s Company.”

STEE-R-R-RIKE!!! Stewart puts another one right over the plate. Such truths can be painfully funny . . . or funnily painful, I guess.

It’s one thing to broadcast “opinions” and quite another to broadcast lies, distortions and mischaracterizations.

Nationman said:
Mr.Papshmer said:
Media Matters! Shit homes, I just blew milk out of my nose! What a frikkin’ douche!

did you watch the clip at all?

All Media Matters did was post a FOX source. Get the douche out of your eyes.

Disprove any Media Matters story. Request #31.

illusive man said:
“Liberals” really love there comedians/decision makers.
There entire “philosophy” is one big joke so no suprises there.

They hope the righties will laugh themselves to death. They’ve already got plenty of “jokers” like Scott StreetWalker and John Ka-sick. Those guys CAN’T be serious!

It won’t be very funny when the ultra-rich plunge the country into another full-blown Republican/Tea Party Depression – then take off for Switzerland. (The current Republican recession is just a warm-up act.)

jrcmi said:
Stewart: “I wasn’t aware that news ratings equals quality. But now that I know that, I’m going to reassess my opinion of Three’s Company.”

Only small brains would think this makes any sense, it appeals to the most non-thinking partisan viewers. Glad you enjoyed it. LMAO

Sean68 said:
That’s hardly fighting back. That’s called terrorism

That’s why I posted the link.
“Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country.”

the real john t said:
The “big 3 networks” have an hour to a half an hour of news on every night where they report the news of the country and the world. Now where is your proof they are as bias as some 24hr news channel?

Do you also look up at the sky on a clear day and demand proof that it is blue?

Right, because Stewart is such an objective commentator, fair and balanced humorist, and just a great lover of humanity (unless you happen to be libertarian or conservative).

Earth Hour: Hating Humanity’s Progress.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/03/earth-hour-hating-humanitys-progress.html

Penguin60 said:
Only small brains would think this makes any sense, it appeals to the most non-thinking partisan viewers. Glad you enjoyed it. LMAO That’s why I posted the link.“Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country.”

I knew that. Didn’t mean to seem like I was explaining that to you. I got your point.

I would like to know which corporate news outlet Jon Stewart thinks is the epiphany of quality and objective coverage. Of course he’s not alone with being upset with what disagrees with him. There are tons of sheep who watch liberal pundits and participate in online festering group think that hate it while they indulge in it on the other side. He is mad fox has opinion shows? They are most certainly not the only one.

joe7 said:
I would like to know which corporate news outlet Jon Stewart thinks is the epiphany of quality and objective coverage. Of course he’s not alone with being upset with what disagrees with him. There are tons of sheep who watch liberal pundits and participate in online festering group think that hate it while they indulge in it on the other side. He is mad fox has opinion shows? They are most certainly not the only one.

What makes you think he believes there is one?
What makes YOU believe it?

Joseph Glackin said:
What makes you think he believes there is one?What makes YOU believe it?

I was commenting on his quality remark. Using that seems to implies quality exists. Its low quality compared to what? Does he go after the network in every interview with a reporter from them? There is little point in someone like Baier or Wallace going on since he is just going to spout left wing criticism. It was more of an interrogation of Baier over something he has no control regarding. His main criticism was about opinion shows which are by no means rare in corporate news, and online outlets alike.

I’m not sure what you mean by your second question

Penguin60 said:

jrcmi said:
Stewart: “I wasn’t aware that news ratings equals quality. But now that I know that, I’m going to reassess my opinion of Three’s Company.”

Only small brains would think this makes any sense

You demonstrate your obliviousness by failing to comprehend the meaning of this comment – and even MORE obliviousness by claiming others are as dense as YOU are.

Stewart tweaks people of all political stripes. He only comes across as liberal because truth has a liberal bias. I kid . . . sort of.

joe7 said:
I was commenting on his quality remark. Using that seems to implies quality exists. Its low quality compared to what? Does he go after the network in every interview with a reporter from them?

I’m not sure what you mean by your second question

1). He sure seemed to give the right’s bete noirs; NBC & MSNBC, a good twisting in his bit about their ownership by GE. I wouldn’t call what I saw last night “going after”, unless your skin is as thin as a Palindrone. I have seen him question AND challenge people from all sides of most debates.
2). What makes YOU believe there is a network, a channel, a station that is the “epiphany” (I think you mean epitome) of quality and objective coverage? If it is created by humans, it will have human bias. If you don’t believe that, you should climb back on your wagon and take your turnips home.

Joseph Glackin said:
1). He sure seemed to give the right’s bete noirs; NBC & MSNBC, a good twisting in his bit about their ownership by GE. I wouldn’t call what I saw last night “going after”, unless your skin is as thin as a Palindrone. I have seen him question AND challenge people from all sides of most debates.2). What makes YOU believe there is a network, a channel, a station that is the “epiphany” (I think you mean epitome) of quality and objective coverage? If it is created by humans, it will have human bias. If you don’t believe that, you should climb back on your wagon and take your turnips home.

1.What does ownership of GE have to do with interrogating newsman about something out of their control that is evident across the board? Me trying to be less controlled by the partisan nonsense that you seem to subscribe to finds your comment to be childish. Palin does have thin skin but so does our President. What is the relevance? Are you just trying to make a plug? Most of the interview was about critiques of the network. Did you even watch? I would call that going after.

This has nothing to do with a sketch about a company. He didn’t call them biased and interrogate a guest in that segment. You are comparing two completely different things. Something more comparable would him interviewing a host from another network…

2.I thought it was quite clear in my post. In regards to impartial reporting; non of them. Or all of them if the standard is the current state of the media. What you stated was essentially my point. There really isn’t much difference in corporate news today. Or a lot news outlets in that matter. That is why the assertion of “quality” led me to wonder what is quality anyway? Production values seem to be there at least. Like there ‘its not quality compared to what’ is kind of what I was trying to say.

Penguin60 said:
Only small brains would think this makes any sense, it appeals to the most non-thinking partisan viewers. Glad you enjoyed it. LMAO

You seriously don’t get the point or see the truth in that remark?

ratings only means something is popular with a certain group. It’s not at all the same as measuring quality.

A 24 hour news network that happens to have the better ratings of several news networks shows only that they are more popular and does not equate to the quality of their news AT ALL. In fact it could very well mean the exact opposite , that said network attracts more viewers because they use and emotional appeal to conform their viewers bias. I’ll note that there’s no factual indication either way unless you believe the polls that claim Fox viewers are more prone to believe things that aren’t true.

joe7—:
So, on #2), we agree. No one is, or maybe can be, impartial. ‘Scool.

We keep running into the straw. I do not like partisan BS, in my news or my politics. I referred not to Ms. Palin, (Who I personally think has the hide of a rhino, as must ALL politicians), but her fans and defenders who swarm on you like drone bees when they feel the Queen is threatened.

joe7 said:
I would like to know which corporate news outlet Jon Stewart thinks is the epiphany of quality and objective coverage.

Why, Comedy Central, of course.

Joseph Glackin said:
We keep running into the straw. I do not like partisan BS, in my news or my politics.

That’s weird, because you spew an awful lot of it.

Stewart seems to disagree his audience is capable of discerning opinion programming from straight reporting. I agree with him on that point.

Pablo said:
That’s weird, because you spew an awful lot of it.

At least, he doesn’t speak Austrian.

joe7 said:

2.I thought it was quite clear in my post. In regards to impartial reporting; non of them. Or all of them if the standard is the current state of the media. What you stated was essentially my point. There really isn’t much difference in corporate news today. Or a lot news outlets in that matter. That is why the assertion of “quality” led me to wonder what is quality anyway? Production values seem to be there at least. Like there ‘its not quality compared to what’ is kind of what I was trying to say.

I agree when you briefly state over the lack of impartial reporting in the news media. Neither Fox, MSNBC, CNN, or any other news media approaches and delivers the news through an unbiased perspective. Jon Stewart’ s points are well-taken. Fox News is a political operation that is not interested in objective news gathering. It is run by former renown GOP operatives such as Roger Ailes, the senior executive. It is perfectly fine for Fox News to cover the news through a right wing filter just as it is perfectly fine for MSNBC to cover the news through a left wing filter. However, Fox News deserves just criticism for attempting to masquerade behind the esteemed label of impartiality and fairness. Every time Fox News refers to itself as “fair and balanced” it is perpetuating a lie that is perfectly clear to anybody who has spent time watching any of the programs.

Mr. Stewart remains uniquely ignorant…oh well, at least he’s blissful.

Jon’s not ignorant. Neither is Bill O’Reilly. They’re both fairly smart gentlemen who believe strongly in what they believe in. They do their research and argue points fairly well. They are also both entertainers (different types, but just barely). When they’re on each other’s show, it’s interesting and entertaining.

Throughout history comedy has played an important roll in forming the opinion of the general public. From ancient Greeks to Will Rogers, Mark Twain to All in the Family and Saturday Night Live. It gets to the heart of the matter. It makes us realize what is absurd and often makes us laugh at it and sometimes laugh at ourselves. People laughed at Archie Bunker, the bigot, but it may have shown many Americans what they were really made of and helped America forge ahead.

I’m sorry to read this (can’t stand to watch the video). Bret Baier’s a straight-up guy and a good newscaster. it’s distasteful to think of this quiet, intelligent man being laughed at by Stewart’s trained-seal audience. but what can you say about a crowd that also laughed at Charles Krauthammer being called brilliant, which he most certainly is?

the next time Jon Stewart does his fake-humble “hey, I’m just a comedian, man,” somebody ought to say “that’s right, Jon, you are just a comedian, so STFU and let the grownups talk.”

Ruth Gretzinger said:
I’m sorry to read this (can’t stand to watch the video). Bret Baier’s a straight-up guy and a good newscaster. it’s distasteful to think of this quiet, intelligent man being laughed at by Stewart’s trained-seal audience. but what can you say about a crowd that also laughed at Charles Krauthammer being called brilliant, which he most certainly is? ”

So, dear lady, are you trying to tell us that Bret is “so” handsome and Sauerkraut Charlie is “so” brilliant that they should NOT be asked to defend what they say? And, of course, you couldn’t STAND to actually WATCH the conversation, but you can prejudge not only the outcome, but the audience?
You, madam, are a closed-minded fool. I hope you are comfortable in your willful ignorance.

Is Bret Baier really such a naive dope?

Does anyone know why Bret Baier decided to make an ill-advised appearance on Jon Stewart’s show? He didn’t have a book to sell.

Perhaps he was hoping to win over some new fans in the viewing audience as opposed to the studio audience. He does come across as polite, affable and open minded.

Maybe he doesn’t care if he gave Stewart the opportunity to cease the moment by saying, “The conservative political narrative weaves its way into almost everything you guys do.” I didn’t think Bret’s rebuttal was particularly strong. But he was across enemy lines.

After all, some will insist that Stewart’s attempt to reinforce the left-wing’s view (stereotype) of Fox News is only being paid attention to by the choir.

I just think it was a mistake and nothing good came of it. In fact it gave Jon Stewart yet another opportunity to poke fun at FNC and even Baier’s interview with President Bush by remarking, “The two of you (Baier and Bush) were literally sitting on a love seat together.”

I wonder if Bret realizes it was a mistake. Perhaps he dismisses the criticism of Fox News as only appealing to the Fox haters and he may think he attracted a few new viewers with his non-contentious style. It’s hard not to like the guy.

slickerwick said:
Stewart could have said the same thing about MSNBC—but, of course, he didn’t. Why do you suppose?

Perhaps b/c even right-leaning sites like NewsBusters rarely (perhaps never) cite example of topics on MSNBC opinion shows bleeding into their daytime programming.

I’m not saying it never happens, but no one (and I mean no one) does it nearly as much as Fox News.

Michael_T said:
Does anyone know why Bret Baier decided to make an ill-advised appearance on Jon Stewart’s show? He didn’t have a book to sell.

Perhaps he was hoping to win over some new fans in the viewing audience as opposed to the studio audience. He does come across as polite, affable and open minded.

Maybe he doesn’t care if he gave Stewart the opportunity to cease the moment by saying,

Maybe some fans of Fox should get passed the fifth grade in their native language, since they are so damned determined to have everyone speak it.

Joseph Glackin said:
Maybe some fans of Fox should get passed the fifth grade in their native language, since they are so damned determined to have everyone speak it.

Michael_T is a liberal, genius, and though I rarely agree with him, he’s one of the more thoughtful and less caustic ones around here. At least, he didn’t invite me to copulate with his pig. How is your wife, by the wife?

Not sure which is my favorite part:

1.When Jon Stewart refuses to admit Charles Krauthammer is a genius.
2.When Jon Stewart has to use the KKK to defend the Caucasian-ality of his anti-Beck rally.
3.When Bret Baier calmly explains to him the necessary difference required in interview styles when one president (Bush) give you three hours and another (Obama) gives you fifteen minutes.
4.When Baier says to Stewart, “At least I didn’t call the president ‘dude.’”
5.Stewart’s playing intentionally dumb so he can pretend he, and therefore we (the great ignorant unwashed), can’t tell the difference between straight news and opinion news.
6.Baier getting Stewart to admit there is hard new on FOX.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2011/03/25/bret-baier-gets-jon-stewart-to-admit-fox-does-hard-news/#more-460356

Even the Lefties must cringe when Jon Stewart is their spokesman on objective journalism. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

Stewart is a biased, unfunny asshat with good writers.

Joseph Glackin said:
Maybe some fans of Fox should get passed the fifth grade in their native language, since they are so damned determined to have everyone speak it.

Past, not passed. They “should get past the fifth grade,” or “should have passed the fifth grade.” A for effort, though.

It’s fitting that Baier should venture over to Comedy Central to defend the merits of the FOX News Network since the two networks are part of the same genre.

CosmosDan said:
You seriously don’t get the point or see the truth in that remark?
ratings only means something is popular with a certain group. It’s not at all the same as measuring quality.

No, I get Stewart or any of the other Fox bashers point. Sitcom vs news- 2 totally different types of programs, but so be it.

I believe that the premise by Stewart and correct me if I’m wrong is that since the program is popular, that doesn’t make it a quality product, correct? So with that premise, the people watching it, that make the ratings high, don’t know shit from shineola. Or am I reading too much into this?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Not sure which is my favorite part:

1.When Jon Stewart refuses to admit Charles Krauthammer is a genius.
2.When Jon Stewart has to use the KKK to defend the Caucasian-ality of his anti-Beck rally.
3.When Bret Baier calmly explains to him the necessary difference required in interview styles when one president (Bush) give you three hours and another (Obama) gives you fifteen minutes.
4.When Baier says to Stewart, “At least I didn’t call the president ‘dude.’”
5.Stewart’s playing intentionally dumb so he can pretend he, and therefore we (the great ignorant unwashed), can’t tell the difference between straight news and opinion news.
6.Baier getting Stewart to admit there is hard new on FOX.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2011/03/25/bret-baier-gets-jon-stewart-to-admit-fox-does-hard-news/#more-460356

1. Isn’t it obvious. Regardless of KrautHammer’s IQ, he made a profoundly ignorant statement directed pretty much directly at Jon. That’s why. There was really no discussion of CK beyond that. What your gifts are, and how you apply them are two different things.
2. False, he did no such thing. He merely pointed out the ridiculous hyperbole of Kruathammer’s remark. Was his rally mostly white. Sure, as is America. Was there racial diversity there? Absolutely.
5. Actually any fan of Jon’s and the show’s knows how he feels about Fox and how they intentionally blur the lines between news and opinion. He’s explained it several times. He explained it plainly to Baier as well when he stated that the primary function of Fox is not to gather hard news. Agree or not, he didn’t play dumb. He laid his opinion on the table.
6. Not a first by a long shot , and waaay short of the point.

Penguin60 said:
I believe that the premise by Stewart and correct me if I’m wrong is that since the program is popular, that doesn’t make it a quality product, correct? So with that premise, the people watching it, that make the ratings high, don’t know shit from shineola. Or am I reading too much into this?

The difference IMO, is that Fox purposely presents itself as a 24 hour NEWS channel and chose it’s own slogan of Fair and Balanced. Having done that on their own, perhaps there is some inclination to live up to it. Instead they offer a much lower % of real hard informative factual news, and a lot more opinion politically motivated slant.

here’s one of my favorite clips of Jon explaining it.
http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/10/30/jon-stewart-explains-fox-news/

You tell me. Does Fox feature it’s opinion shows in it’s ads much more than it’s hard news shows, along with their Fox, Fair and Balanced slogan?

Fox, and other networks have largely abandoned taking the time and expense to offer fact filled research pieces that really inform and educate the public, and instead go for cheap exaggerated superficial controversy and opinion that elicits an emotional response rather than informs.

Like it or not there have been a couple of studies showing Fox viewers tend to be less informed. I think informed citizens have to rely on using a variety of sources to get the proper information.

I think as far as ratings go Jon is just making a simple accurate statement that ratings do not measure quality. People will tune in to hear what they like to hear, whether it’s factual, fair and balanced or not..
The quality of news has to be measured differently.