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Keith Olbermann: The Tea Party “Snake Is Perpetually Eating Its Own Tail”

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The backlash against Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown, considered by some to be the first elected Tea Party politician, has Keith Olbermann worried about the state of the movement. After all, if Tea Partiers are “officially defriending” Brown on Facebook over financial regulation, what hope does any other Tea Party politician have, and if the Tea Party is inherently opposed to elected politicians as a whole, then won’t they always be against the people they elect as soon as they are sworn into office?

Olbermann described it as the “snake perpetually eating its own tail,” such that the Tea Party will eventually run out of elected officials to put in office and hastily dispose of. Not to mention, he continued, that he perceives the movement is slowing down, with the unexpected rise in the polls of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada and the Republicans’ inability to win the special election in Pennsylvania last week.

And while his guest, Wall Street Journal columnist Thomas Frank, agreed with the premise that the Tea Party does not stably support its own politicians, he added that, contrary to what might seem the inevitable result of it, the tactic is working. “The conservative movement has this sense of themselves as forever being played… [and] to a certain degree, it’s true,” he noted, giving as an example the rhetoric from politicians supporting the religious right and how little legislative action there is on those matters once they are elected. Wall Street, he added, is a different story– “they always get what they want”–but warned that the backlash against elected Tea Party sympathizers was a product of the way the system worked, and not a symptom of a problem within it. “It seems ridiculous,” he concluded, “but they are very effectively pushing the Republican Party to the right. Look at the situation that were in now– that’s an amazing achievement.”

Video of the segment, from last night’s Countdown, below:

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  • The Real Royal King

    This may be one of those rare occasions Mr. Olbermann is correct, and if the Tea Partiers are eating their own tails, it is no doubt a welcome change from their usual diets of Slim Jims and GooGoo Clusters.

  • felixw

    Keith Olbermann has probably devoted five hundred hours to the tea party on his show. Funny that he has never invited any tea party participants to tell their side of the story. Of course, Keith realizes that he can’t do that. Most people are in complete agreement with the tea party’s call for lower taxes, government accountability and a lessening of bureaucratic intrusion into our lives. So ideologues like Olbermann need to make sure that their attacks on the tea party are never accompanied by any explanation of what the tea party stands for.

    In other words, MSNBC is like Pravda during the Cold War. You can only figure out what is really going on in the world by paying attention to what they are leaving out of their coverage.

  • Liberty – Not Redistribution

    “it is no doubt a welcome change from their usual diets of Slim Jims and GooGoo Clusters.” – King

    Wow…more personal attacks and bigotry huh King.

  • http://politicsofdestruction.com/ Bobomatic

    If KO is so confident he holds the high ground, why can’t he bring a tea partier on air and debate or just question the opposition and perhaps even attempt to understand the other side? He ridicules from afar because he knows he will lose the argument. His intellect is bound by the the bubble and echo chamber in which he lives. Sad.

  • paulmdoro

    Ignoring Olbermann and his show for a moment, isn’t there a possibility that the Tea Party either permanently divides within itself or creates a debilitating fracture in the GOP? In ’64 the GOP was split into Goldwater and Rockefeller factions, and they got hammered in the election. In ’68 the Dems were split between the old guard and the younger, rabidly anti-war crowd. They lost the election. I’m sure there are many more examples. These movements can fatally divide a party. Isn’t it realistic to think this could happen? I mean, Paul didn’t even win the election yet, and not every state is Kentucky. In Wisconsin, for example, a Republican dropped out of the primary race for U.S. Senate because of conservative backlash due to his tenure in the Democratic governor’s administration (he was Commerce Secretary). He was called a RINO and all the usual names. That might work in a state like Kentucky, but Wisconsin is very different, and someone like Rand Paul probably has no chance there in a statewide race.

  • PureFreedom

    Great point Paulmdoro!
    This will split the votes if they are not careful….
    infact I agree with the tea party message with less government… just look at the report out today that we have hit record highs in government handouts in welfare and foodstamps. This needs to be fixed and stopped otherwise we will be a third world country if our sociity depends on handouts.
    This will be passed down to there children and the work ethic in this country will be gone. No more innovation! No more great minds of progress. just another North Kora or worse France.

  • felixw

    The tea party won’t create a fracture in the GOP. They will take over the GOP. It has already happened, in fact. Any fracture will come from people like Arlen Specter and Charlie Crist — but they will be the ones committing political suicide, and will need to leave the GOP in order to do so. For the Republicans, the tea partiers are the solution, not the problem. They have exactly the right message for the moment, and will have huge support in November despite (or perhaps because) of all the smearing from Washington insiders and elitist media pundits.

  • http://politicsofdestruction.com/ Bobomatic

    I don’t think we’ll see the Ross Perot effect that brought Clinton into power. The Tea Party movement is a whole other animal. It’s not going away and the republican party is going to have to flex with the tide and embrace the movement in order to succeed.

  • paulmdoro

    I don’t know felix. While the tea party will undoubtedly achieve some success, I don’t think they can win everywhere. You might be an ardent supporter, but not all moderates and independents are on board at this point. I think the jury is still out on whether or not the tea party takes over rather than fractures the GOP.

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Trey Grayson was a former member of the Democratic Party, but switched to the Republican Party. He was a Bill Clinton delegate in 1992 and supported and voted for Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential elections.

    Trey Grayson was also the pick of Dick Cheney & McConnell in the primes.

    Arlin Spector tried it, what happened here in PA?

    I guess politicians in Wisconson can do whatever they want and the people will vote for them? No,in the latest ABC poll right now the race for Gov. is a toss-up. While Obey’s seat is just leaning Democrat & not solid.

    Blowing your horn a little early? Your primes are not until Sept. 14.

    Any Questions?

  • felixw

    The tea party is actually the main source of strength for the Republicans right now. The anti-Washington and pro-individual freedom message of the tea party is exactly what most of the electorate wants to hear in 2010. This is clear whether you look at polling data, recent election results, or just talk to taxi drivers and people hanging out at the local barber shop. You can’t judge by the coverage on MSNBC — those people are so deeply into denial that they will be the very last folks to understand what is happening right now in the US. They won’t figure it out until after election day.

  • paulmdoro

    I don’t live in Wisconsin, and I was merely raising questions. I said it’s too early to judge either way. I don’t share the certainty that some have regarding the tea party taking over the GOP. I didn’t say it can’t happen. I said the jury is out.

  • paulmdoro

    I don’t watch MSNBC. Are people on the corner or in the barbershop really talking about “pro-individual freedom?”

  • Munch

    Here is what you said about Brown KO. Do you now embrace him?

    “In short, in Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees. In any other time in our history, this man would have been laughed off the stage as an unqualified and a disaster in the making by the most conservative of conservatives. Instead, the commonwealth of Massachusetts is close to sending this bad joke to the Senate of the United States.”

  • Liberty – Not Redistribution

    There is no other real freedom but INDIVIDUAL freedom.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberty – Not Redistribution says:
    May 25, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    “it is no doubt a welcome change from their usual diets of Slim Jims and GooGoo Clusters.” – King

    Wow…more personal attacks and bigotry huh King.

    With that assessment, I shamefully agree.

  • The Real Royal King

    felixw says:
    May 25, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    The tea party is actually the main source of strength for the Republicans right now.

    And that is the source of great angst for Republicans and abiding joy for Democrats.

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 3:24 pm
    I don’t live in Wisconsin

    Okay,so that would be me talking about how the people of………say…………Idaho, Wouldn’t vote for somebody like Gerald Nadler.
    But I live in PA.

  • paulmdoro

    I am a former resident of Wisconsin, and I follow politics at the state and national level quite closely. Do you have to live in D.C. to speak knowledgeably about Obama? Do I have to live in PA to understand Sestak beating Specter?

  • puck30

    The Real Royal King says:
    May 25, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    And that is the source of great angst for Republicans and abiding joy for Democrats.

    And how did that abiding joy work out for Democrats in New Jersey?

  • notsofast

    …abiding joy for Democrats.”

    yeah, that why Mark Critz in PA. ran on a pro-life, anti -obamacare and pro-gun platform. He ran as far away from obama as he could.

    From his web site:

    “Mark’s conservative Democratic values are representative of the Pennsylvania 12th Congressional District. Mark is Pro Life, a supporter of our 2nd Amendment rights, a fervent believer in a strong national defense and a supporter of creating an atmosphere in which small business can flourish. ”

    “Anti-ObamaCare Dem Critz wins Murtha seat”
    by : Latest News – UPI.com
    Published : Tuesday, May 18 2010 23:07

  • paulmdoro

    Puck, you don’t live in New Jersey, so how would you know anything about what’s going on there?

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    I am a former resident of Wisconsin,

    OH! So now you are a former resident, but you still follow politics at the state and national level. Okay, so then that gets back to…………”Blowing your horn a little early”. And I use to live in New Jersey & Florida. I live now in PA.
    I follow my state & local races. BTW: National is National, no matter where you live.

    Don’t understand why you would want to be more informed about some other states voting more then where you live.

    But since now you have come out and said you know everything about everything when it comes to the Mid-terms it seems.

    Why don’t you tell us how the folks in North Dakota are going to vote. Or Nevada? Georgia?

  • paulmdoro

    I lived in WI for 28 years, and my family still lives there, so I am extremely interested in the politics of the state (and the state in general). Is that unusual?

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    Puck, you don’t live in New Jersey, so how would you know anything about what’s going on there?

    Born there, raised there. Still have tons of family there. And I live in PA where the Jersey News bleeds over to PA and visa-versa.

    So what are you going to tell me now? You just moved to Iowa?

  • paulmdoro

    No, I don’t live in Iowa. Like I said, WI resident for 28 years with family there. I still follow WI news and politics closely. Doesn’t seem all that unusual to me.

  • PureFreedom

    TRRK do you really think the Tea Party movement is bad for this country?
    Do you understand what they are saying? They are NOT trying to be Republican or Democrat. They are trying to say less government involvement.

  • paulmdoro

    PF, does the Tea Party have a cohesive, national platform? Or is that still a work in progress?

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    PF, does the Tea Party have a cohesive, national platform? Or is that still a work in progress?

    Well the next time you go home to visit family in WI, why don’t you find out where the local ‘Tea Party’ group meets and ask them? It would seem since you state that you follow WI politics so closely you would know where to find the group.

    It’s soo easy a guy from PA could find them.

    http://www.wisconsinteaparty.org/

  • paulmdoro

    Ask the WI tea party about national cohesion? Thanks for the advice Puck, though I’m not exactly sure why you’re so worked up about me caring about the politics in the state in which I was born and raised.

  • The Real Royal King

    PureFreedom says:
    May 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    TRRK do you really think the Tea Party movement is bad for this country?
    Do you understand what they are saying? They are NOT trying to be Republican or Democrat. They are trying to say less government involvement.

    No, I don’t. I disagree with your statement of the mission of the Tea Partiers, although you are only restating them. I tend to view the Tea Party as merely a front for rightist radicalism, but even that would be legitimate in our democracy, wouldn’t it?

  • puck30

    Not worked up but surprised since you know everything about your ex-state, but didn’t know that. And why not ask them about national cohesion. They are the Tea Party, I’m sure they will do their best to find out for you. Don’t you think?

    Again, just send them an e-mail or how about calling them? You can do that from just about anywhere in the world.

  • paulmdoro

    Something I said seems to have really bothered you Puck. I never said I knew everything about Wisconsin. I merely commented on a candidate for the GOP in the race for a U.S. Senate seat and why he says he dropped out. Since I was born in and lived there for so long, I follow news and politics there as much as I can. I still care about the state. If that bothers you, I’m not sure what to tell you.

  • writer

    Hey, Keith. I’ve got something you can eat. LOL

  • puck30

    paulmdoro says:
    May 25, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Huh? I thought you asked about the ‘National Cohesion’ of the Tea Party, I directed you to where could find the answer.
    Now you are back to this defending your state.

    Did you not call or e-mail them. Do you want me to get the number? What’s so hard here? I’m trying to give you information. I was just surprised you were asking a question since I’m sure you would know how to get in touch with the WI Tea Party.

    You said you follow WI politics closely, should’nt you know where the local ‘Tea Party’ is?

    I can tell you where the local Democrat office & Republican office & the local Tea Party office is. 9/12 does’nt have an office they just meet somewhere.

    I’m proud to say where I live now, but you don’t? Interesting.

  • puck30

    Have to go folks. Everybody have a nice rest of the day.

  • MDT

    To “The Real Royal King”

    Perhaps your highness is a bit chafed about the mere commoners exercising their rights..?

    How dare they express their opinion..? They must be branded radicals and controlled if not just by monarch-a-cal chatter.

    By the way…I just want to say, your royalness…I’m a big fan…I mean you were just great in Robin Hood as the third archer on the left.

  • Nachi

    There are currently 44M “functionally illiterate” people in the USA. Wonder what percentage of the Tea Partiers are drawn from this group. Primates in our midst. People with unkempt minds.

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