UH OHH!!!
5-4-3—

It may have been those “Special little gifts” Obama gave to England, …

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD.

The entire British press is up in arms. Many in Britain are seeing this as entirely gauche and indicative of the low esteem in which the Obama’s hold England.

Worse, no one is 100% sure that Obama was smart enough to know that DVDs made in America don’t play on European DVD players.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/03/07/obamas-british-gift-gaffe-not-reported-u-s-media

Or maybe it was the bust of Winston Churchill he returned….

http://thewesternexperience.com/2009/02/23/president-obama-returns-bust-of-sir-winston-churchill-back-to-britain/

Just saying….

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/03/07/obamas-british-gift-gaffe-not-reported-u-s-media#ixzz1KYzdWppX

LOL i love rush.

Limbaugh is just upset that the drug abusers were left out of the list.

skyfet said:
Limbaugh is just upset that the drug abusers were left out of the list.

not only are you illiterate, you are most definitely not funny.

Obama cultists…
defend your leader!

justanotherconservative said:
not only are you illiterate, you are most definitely not funny.

Granted, he’s not as funny as Limpbow, but he has his moments.
Rush should know that the only drug addicts or paeodophiles invited are members of the Royal Family.

Not only can’t you use capitalization you are also a Limbaugh lapdog.

Maybe Obama is amongst the 94% of Americans who don’t give a crap about the wedding.

justanotherconservative said:
not only are you illiterate, you are most definitely not funny.

Not only can’t you use capitalization you are also a Limbaugh lapdog.

Lard Limbaugh doesn’t really talk about issues anymore, does he?

Who cares about the stupid wedding? You’d be bitching if Obama went too, lol.

Joseph Glackin said:
drug addicts or paeodophiles invited

4.5 Glackins awarded for slander / stupidity .

Snowspot said:
Who cares about the stupid wedding? You’d be bitching if Obama went too, lol.

The last time both him and his wife traveled to Europe together, they were called King and Queen Obama.

skyfet said:
Not only can’t you use capitalization you are also a Limbaugh lapdog.

better that than an obama ass kisser, illiterate.

skyfet said:
The last time both him and his wife traveled to Europe together, they were called King and Queen Obama.

Really? Even though typically Kings and Queens don’t care about the lower/middle class?

Republicans are trying to lower taxes for the rich, so WE, the lower/middle class pay their taxes. Who else will? Then they destroy unions so the average worker makes less money.

If I can figure this out, do you think the smart people aren’t doing this? Republicans have been hood-winked into being corporatists.

justanotherconservative said:
better that than an obama ass kisser, illiterate.

What the hell is that? (that than), is that a stammer?

Snowspot said:

If I can figure this out, do you think the smart people aren’t doing this? Republicans have been hood-winked into being corporatists.

Well, the groups that amazes me the most are the lower middle class to working class that supports the GOP against their own self interest. Maybe they do believe that comes out of the GOP talking points that says maybe, just maybe one day you too might be a millionaire. That would explain why they are crying for lower taxes and less regulations for the Billionaire Koch brothers and co.

skyfet said:
Limbaugh is just upset that the drug abusers were left out of the list.

Anybody in your family or circle of friends ever recover from a substance abuse problem?

Snowspot said:
Republicans are trying to lower taxes for the rich, so WE, the lower/middle class pay their taxes.

My guess is you are in the 47% that pay NO federal taxes. Your leech mentality (as exposed by your many marxist comments) would make you unemployable by anyone, save maybe the state.

skyfet said:
The last time both him and his wife traveled to Europe together, they were called King and Queen Obama.

Yeah, but they figured them out pretty quickly, no?

Snowspot said:
Republicans are trying to lower taxes for the rich, so WE, the lower/middle class pay their taxes.

No, they want lower taxes for everybody. You’ll notice that they just demanded exactly that and Obama signed that into law. The lower class takes far more out of the tax coffers than they put in. That comes from the rich, not the poor. Stop being so greedy and go make some money.

timzank said:
Anybody in your family or circle of friends ever recover from a substance abuse problem?

You can share with us how your family members recovered since you have that experience.

Thanks for sharing.

I do appreciate that Mediaite uses a good picture of Limbaugh… unlike other sites…

Pablo said:
No, they want lower taxes for everybody. You’ll notice that they just demanded exactly that and Obama signed that into law. The lower class takes far more out of the tax coffers than they put in. That comes from the rich, not the poor. Stop being so greedy and go make some money.

Really? do tell us MR. Pablo. Thats why Buffets secretary pay more in taxes than he does. That is why freaking GE, exon and the other big corporation pay less to zero in taxes. Wow, I bet you bought into the mantra that one day, maybe just one day you’d be wealthy like the Koch brothers.

…….or maybe a couple of African war masks from Barack’s boyhood village in Kenya?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Lard Limbaugh doesn’t really talk about issues anymore, does he?

He can’t talk about issues since that would require facts and the only facts Rush has are on the side of his OxyContin bottle.

Pablo said:
No, they want lower taxes for everybody. You’ll notice that they just demanded exactly that and Obama signed that into law.

Actually, the GOP said if the tax breaks for over $250K were not extended, then everyone would get a tax hike because they would not accept anything else. Not quite the same thing. Same effect, but not what their position was.

timzank said:
Anybody in your family or circle of friends ever recover from a substance abuse problem?

I have and I can tell you it is not fun nor is it anything I would wish on anyone else. Of course, I also did not use any influence to have charges reduced or restrictions lifted. I also do not believe that Limbaugh has stopped the pills.

By the way, “recovered from a substance abuse problem,” is way too PC for me. I prefer calling it what it is – addiction. Rush – like me – is an addict and not a victim as he proclaims. Addiction always starts with a conscious choice to use the substance. It is not an illness that just happens as the excuse makers want us to believe.

Rush chose to abuse the drugs. He chose to illegally obtain them and he chose to use multiple doctors to get them. He chose to break the law. He is a convicted felon drug addict. Not a victim and not an object for sympathy.

black and WHITE said:
…….or maybe a couple of African war masks from Barack’s boyhood village in Kenya?

Maybe you could toss in a few Klan robes? Preferably without the blood-splatters.

skyfet said:
You can share with us how your family members recovered since you have that experience. Thanks for sharing.

Seriously, there are very few families that haven’t experienced a member (or a close friend) with an addiction problem. You honestly don’t know anyone that has struggled or recovered from an addiction? It’s just unusual that you haven’t.

Keeva said:
He can’t talk about issues since that would require facts and the only facts Rush has are on the side of his OxyContin bottle. Actually, the GOP said if the tax breaks for over $250K were not extended, then everyone would get a tax hike because they would not accept anything else. Not quite the same thing. Same effect, but not what their position was. I have and I can tell you it is not fun nor is it anything I would wish on anyone else. Of course, I also did not use any influence to have charges reduced or restrictions lifted. I also do not believe that Limbaugh has stopped the pills. By the way, “recovered from a substance abuse problem,” is way too PC for me. I prefer calling it what it is – addiction. Rush – like me – is an addict and not a victim as he proclaims. Addiction always starts with a conscious choice to use the substance. It is not an illness that just happens as the excuse makers want us to believe. Rush chose to abuse the drugs. He chose to illegally obtain them and he chose to use multiple doctors to get them. He chose to break the law. He is a convicted felon drug addict. Not a victim and not an object for sympathy.

I can tell by your tone you are not a recovering anything, at least you’ve never been through any kind of treatment.

timzank said:
I can tell by your tone you are not a recovering anything, at least you’ve never been through any kind of treatment.

But Lard Limpo has, right?

I mean, anyone can tell by his tone.

timzank said:
I can tell by your tone you are not a recovering anything, at least you’ve never been through any kind of treatment.

Really? You can tell that? Amazing!

Skippy said:
But Lard Limpo has, right? I mean, anyone can tell by his tone.

Obfuscation Skippy.

Keeva said:
Really? You can tell that? Amazing!

Yep.

timzank said:
I can tell by your tone you are not a recovering anything, at least you’ve never been through any kind of treatment.

And if you had been through any addiction, you would know that sympathy is the absolute worst thing.

Keeva said:
And if you had been through any addiction, you would know that sympathy is the absolute worst thing.

Sympathy isn’t expected. Nor is condemnation. Awareness and acceptance is.

The reasons the Royal couple didn’t invite the Obama’s?
Answers:
They were afraid of the gift they might receive.
They thought they were on vacation that week.
The Obama’s wanted to go on the honeymoon as well.
They are invited, They’ll send the invite on Friday night through snail mail.
They decided to invited Lady Gaga instead.
There isn’t enough hotel rooms left for Michelle’s Antoinette’s entourage.
The only seats left in Westminster Abbey are in the back row.
All the tee times around London are all booked.
The Royal security is trying to prevent a terrorist attack not invite one.

Ok I got 9 reasons. But this website has 24 real reasons.
http://gratewire.com/topic/10-reasons-why-the-british-hate-the-obamas
Each “reason” is explained in more detail on the site.

1. Does NOT consult the British Government Before Dumping GITMO Prisoners onto Bermuda
2. Gave the Queen an Ipod filled with his speeches
3. DVDs for the Prime Minister (and a couple of toy helicopters of Marine One – Thanks for stopping by )
4. Prime Minister Denied a White House Rose GardenPress Conference
5. Prime Minister Denied the traditional Oval Office photo Op with the American president
6. The Obamas failed to have Mr. Brown and his wife Sarah over for a White House dinner.
7. Getting the Queen of England’s Birth Date Wrong
8. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
9. Throwing Churchill bust out of the Oval Office
10. Obama Ignores US/Britain Special Relationship: ‘We Don’t Have Stronger Friend Than France’
11. Insulting words from the State Department
12. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press
13. Obama’s disastrous handling of the BP issue.
14. US refuses to endorse British sovereignty in Falklands oil dispute
15. Undermining of British influence in NATO
16. Support for a federal Europe
17. Refusal to Recognize Britain’s Sacrifice in Afghanistan
18. Michelle Obama Broke Palace Protocol and Touched the Queen
19. Barack Obama Grasps the Queens hand with 2 hands
20. Barack Obama at the same G-20 summit doesn’t bow to Queen Elizabeth but a few days later bows deeply to the the Saudi King
21. Obama despises England – Widely reported (and even a book on the subject) It explains his behavior
22. Rumored Prince William believes Michelle Obama called Princess Diana an “Over-sexed clothes-horse” and that “she, Michelle, was more popular than Diana ever was.”
23. Sources reveal that William states, “She (Michelle Obama) may run Obama, but she doesn’t run him or England”.
24. It is said that he also “did not want Michelle Obama trying to pull her center of attention ploy trying to upstage Kate on Kate’s wedding day”

Some of these reason are superficial but most are not especially number 21.

Keeva said:
Really? You can tell that? Amazing!

Oh. yeah! He will also tell you what you meant, what you WOULD have said that he could rebut, and probably what color shorts you have on.
timzank is a real whiz.
Funnier than hell, especially when he takes himself so seriously.
His avatar says it all.

Joseph Glackin said:
Oh. yeah! He will also tell you what you meant, what you WOULD have said that he could rebut, and probably what color shorts you have on.timzank is a real whiz.Funnier than hell, especially when he takes himself so seriously.His avatar says it all.

Recovering addicts learn it’s not about lack of will power, or of weakness, but of chemistry. If Keeva went through some sort of rehab, she/he must have slept through it.

To hate someones politics is fine, to denigrate them as an addict though, especially from someone who claims to have the same affliction is not only cold hearted, it’s anathema to your own recovery. In short, she/he lied about “recovering” from anything.

Joseph Glackin said:
Oh. yeah! He will also tell you what you meant, what you WOULD have said that he could rebut, and probably what color shorts you have on.timzank is a real whiz.Funnier than hell, especially when he takes himself so seriously.His avatar says it all.

And what’s wrong with my avatar? You got a problem with leader of the free world tokin’ on a fatty?

timzank said:
Recovering addicts learn it’s not about lack of will power, or of weakness, but of chemistry. If Keeva went through some sort of rehab, she/he must have slept through it.

To hate someones politics is fine, to denigrate them as an addict though, especially from someone who claims to have the same affliction is not only cold hearted, it’s anathema to your own recovery. In short, she/he lied about “recovering” from anything.

In my experience, the addict is entitled to nothing from society. First they must be honest with themselves. Then they must be honest with society about who and what they are. Then they may expect some consideration.
The Lush-man hasn’t taken Step One, in my view. He deserves nothing.

timzank said:
And what’s wrong with my avatar? You got a problem with leader of the free world tokin’ on a fatty?

Hell, I thought that was the bad guy frrom “Crocodile Dundee, II”
Maybe I was confusing the picture with the words.

timzank said:
Seriously, there are very few families that haven’t experienced a member (or a close friend) with an addiction problem. You honestly don’t know anyone that has struggled or recovered from an addiction? It’s just unusual that you haven’t.

Won’t you agree with me that its irresponsible to put a recovering drug addict on air?

Limbaugh: Why Wasn’t Obama Invited To The Royal Wedding With All The Other Dictators?

When Obama gave P.M. Gordon Brown a couple of DVD’s ( that couldn’t even be played in European DVD players) when he first became president, he unknowingly not just insulted the P.M., but he insulted the British people.

Joseph Glackin said:
In my experience, the addict is entitled to nothing from society. First they must be honest with themselves. Then they must be honest with society about who and what they are. Then they may expect some consideration.The Lush-man hasn’t taken Step One, in my view. He deserves nothing.

What you fail to know is, from other addicts he deserves NOT to be denigrated for his addiction. You guys can bash his addiction all you want, my point is Keeva is not an addict, recovered or otherwise. Another addict would never do that. Keeva is a liar.

Let’s see….6% of Americans give a damn about the wedding, but Rush is all over it. Obama not invited, Rush makes a big deal about it. Maybe Rush is the one pissed that no invite was proffered to HIM.

Rushbo is playing to his geriatric audience….they love gossip.

skyfet said:
Won’t you agree with me that its irresponsible to put a recovering drug addict on air?

Of course I would NOT agree with you. Chris Matthews is a recovering alcoholic, you want him off the air? If you were you take the recovering addicts off the air you’d probably lose 1/3 of the on air talent. Recovering means “not using” sky.

If he’s recovering from any other disease would that be reason to keep him off the air? Dick Clark is recovering from a stroke, you want him off the air? You libs are all about forgiveness & recovery unless it’s somebody you don’t agree with?

illusive man said:
Limbaugh: Why Wasn’t Obama Invited To The Royal Wedding With All The Other Dictators?

When Obama gave P.M. Gordon Brown a couple of DVD’s ( that couldn’t even be played in European DVD players) when he first became president, he unknowingly not just insulted the P.M., but he insulted the British people.

I wonder if illusive man knows how few DVD players are regionalized these days…most are region free….but that does not fit the narrative now, does it?

Joseph Glackin said:
Hell, I thought that was the bad guy frrom “Crocodile Dundee, II”Maybe I was confusing the picture with the words.

Nope, it’s a really clear picture of The President Of The United States smoking dope.

timzank said:
Sympathy isn’t expected. Nor is condemnation. Awareness and acceptance is.

I have no problem with acceptance. I accept that Rush is an addict. I also accept that he is a convicted felon, whi9ch he apparently does not. He also does not accept other’s addictions or issues. His defense has been and remains that he was a “victim” of the drugs. Not the case for any addict. In fact, it is the same pathetic excuse the Lohans of the world use. Addiction is self-inflicted. Not a disease or illness.

timzank said:
Recovering addicts learn it’s not about lack of will power, or of weakness, but of chemistry. If Keeva went through some sort of rehab, she/he must have slept through it.

To hate someones politics is fine, to denigrate them as an addict though, especially from someone who claims to have the same affliction is not only cold hearted, it’s anathema to your own recovery. In short, she/he lied about “recovering” from anything.

Really. So the addiction was imagined? I am so relieved to hear that. Rehab is mostly nonsense unless the person wants to quit the drugs. It is not all chemistry. That plays right back into the victim card. Nobody forces an addict to take that first drink or pill or do that first line. It is a conscious choice. Rehab tends to minimize that and go with the poor victim lie. I walked away from all of that and quit the drugs on my own without overpaid counselors and therapists telling me it wasn’t my fault. It was my fault and nobody else’s. Modern rehab is mostly a scam that preys on the weak and becomes as addictive as the drugs themselves.

I am not denigrating Rush for being an addict. I am denigrating him for being a mindless blowhard ex-con who is a drug addict yet pretends to not be one nor ever have been one. I am also denigrating him for lying about his addiction by blaming the drugs.

Joseph Glackin said:
In my experience, the addict is entitled to nothing from society. First they must be honest with themselves. Then they must be honest with society about who and what they are. Then they may expect some consideration.
The Lush-man hasn’t taken Step One, in my view. He deserves nothing.

Yep.

timzank said:
What you fail to know is, from other addicts he deserves NOT to be denigrated for his addiction. You guys can bash his addiction all you want, my point is Keeva is not an addict, recovered or otherwise. Another addict would never do that. Keeva is a liar.

I’m getting sick of the use of that word on the site. Until you demonstrate the ability to read minds, you are not qualified to declare another’s words untrue.
You are entitled to disagree with the words. You are in no position to define the person.
I could as easily argue that only an enabler would defend an unrepentant junkie.

timzank said:
Keeva is a liar.

You say that so easily considering you know nothing about me or my life. This makes you as bad as Rush – a blowhard ready to label anyone that dares disagree with them.

I used to think you were fairly reasonable. Now I see you are another blind ideologue reaching desperately to defend the indefensible Rush.

So, by your rules, ALL addicts must speak and think a certain way and can never insult another addict or they are liars? Seriously? Shows how little you really know and how far you are willing to go to find a way to protect the sad waste of flesh that is Limbaugh.

And you have now made my “No Need to Respond List,” since you are bout as open minded as a statue.

illusive man said:
Limbaugh: Why Wasn’t Obama Invited To The Royal Wedding With All The Other Dictators?

When Obama gave P.M. Gordon Brown a couple of DVD’s ( that couldn’t even be played in European DVD players) when he first became president, he unknowingly not just insulted the P.M., but he insulted the British people.

How much do they pay you to trot out that old nag? She quit running two years ago.
If I mail you a buck, will you promise to but some new talking points?

Damn Keeva, the old “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” cure to addictions, eh? If only more people knew you could use the “Hey, Snap Out Of It” technique. Bravo!

So using your belief system that means you are an ex-con (you said above you didn’t cop a plea or use the system to get off like rush) that isn’t worthy of being paid attention to, you are a dirtbag because you didn’t admit you had a problem, you had to be arrested and convicted.

Good to know you too are a degenerate weak willed ex-con that can’t stay out of the sauce/lines/pills. That would make you and Rush BOTH worthless human beings then, I got it. Thanks for helping us understand.

Keeva said:
I used to think you were fairly reasonable. Now I see you are another blind ideologue reaching desperately to defend the indefensible Rush.

I’m not defending Rush personally, I’m defending any addict that has to suffer being made fun of by people like you. As I said, hate his politics and his opinions all you want, just don’t tie in the addiction part to make fun of him or anyone else. His (or anyones) addiction problems have nothing to do his political comments. All I’m saying is berate him for what would be considered the correct reasons.

Are you offended when people make fun of Ted Kennedy’s addiction escapades or his sons??

Joseph Glackin said:
In my experience, the addict is entitled to nothing from society. First they must be honest with themselves. Then they must be honest with society about who and what they are. Then they may expect some consideration.
The Lush-man hasn’t taken Step One, in my view. He deserves nothing.

Then according to you the entire underbelly of society ( your peeps ) are not entitle to one more red cent of my money, right?

Do you EVER think before you type, or does it just run out like day old Taco Bell?

timzank said:
My guess is you are in the 47% that pay NO federal taxes. Your leech mentality (as exposed by your many marxist comments) would make you unemployable by anyone, save maybe the state.

I wish I didn’t pay taxes :(

but is this the only response for my argument? How do you respond to what I say? If we lower corporate taxes, it is WE the American taxpayers that end up having to take up the slack. Same with the rich, if we lower their taxes, the poorer Americans have to pay, making our recovery longer. So besides saying I don’t work, what is your response?

Joseph Glackin said:
How much do they pay you to trot out that old nag? She quit running two years ago.If I mail you a buck, will you promise to but some new talking points?

Thanks to your guy in the white house, a buck is a lot less valuable then it used to be. And let us not forget the inflation caused by the last two years of Dem control. You will need to send in a least 50$.

Snowspot said:
I wish I didn’t pay taxes :( but is this the only response for my argument? How do you respond to what I say? If we lower corporate taxes, it is WE the American taxpayers that end up having to take up the slack. Same with the rich, if we lower their taxes, the poorer Americans have to pay, making our recovery longer. So besides saying I don’t work, what is your response?

If taxes are raised on corporations, the products they make become more expensive and YOU pay it. It’s effectively taxing yourself, when costs for companies go up they pass them along to the consumer.

If you lower the tax on the “rich” they spend that money, either on expansion or goods. You guys seem to think all rich people do is stuff pillowcases full of $100 bills and stuff them under their bed.

Since the beginning of recorded time there have been rich people, when will you guys get over it? Does a poor guy sign your paycheck?? Seriously answer that, who signs your paycheck?????

Garth said:
The day old Taco Bell has a bigger brain than you do. Probably. I’m just saying.

Oh good, now the “I know you are but what am I” contingent has arrived.

timzank said:
If taxes are raised on corporations, the products they make become more expensive and YOU pay it. It’s effectively taxing yourself, when costs for companies go up they pass them along to the consumer.

If you lower the tax on the “rich” they spend that money, either on expansion or goods. You guys seem to think all rich people do is stuff pillowcases full of $100 bills and stuff them under their bed.

Since the beginning of recorded time there have been rich people, when will you guys get over it? Does a poor guy sign your paycheck?? Seriously answer that, who signs your paycheck?????

You know what? I’d rather take my chances and let corporations charge me more than hand them my money. You’re really naive. Why would I tell you who signs my paycheck? lol, so pathetic.

timzank said:
Of course I would NOT agree with you. Chris Matthews is a recovering alcoholic, you want him off the air? If you were you take the recovering addicts off the air you’d probably lose 1/3 of the on air talent. Recovering means “not using” sky.

If he’s recovering from any other disease would that be reason to keep him off the air? Dick Clark is recovering from a stroke, you want him off the air? You libs are all about forgiveness & recovery unless it’s somebody you don’t agree with?

I’m disappointed you choose not to agree with me. I think if the addict is a danger to himself and to the public, why would you want to put hi/her on air to speak to a larger public.

illusive man said:
Thanks to your guy in the white house, a buck is a lot less valuable then it used to be. And let us not forget the inflation caused by the last two years of Dem control. You will need to send in a least 50$.

Lol, you think our debt was accumulated in 2 years? XD

black and WHITE said:
Joseph Glackin said:
In my experience, the addict is entitled to nothing from society. First they must be honest with themselves. Then they must be honest with society about who and what they are. Then they may expect some consideration.
The Lush-man hasn’t taken Step One, in my view. He deserves nothing.

Then according to you the entire underbelly of society ( your peeps ) are not entitle to one more red cent of my money, right?

Do you EVER think before you type, or does it just run out like day old Taco Bell?

Your words. Keep them. I said no such thing. If you stop putting words in my mouth, I’ll stop think of you as a hypocrite as well as a buffoon.

illusive man said:
Thanks to your guy in the white house, a buck is a lot less valuable then it used to be. And let us not forget the inflation caused by the last two years of Dem control. You will need to send in a least 50$.

Considering the worth of your talking points now, like the Medicare “blueprint”, I should only offer a quarter.
The ideas are dime a dozen clap-trap, anyway.

Snowspot said:
You know what? I’d rather take my chances and let corporations charge me more than hand them my money. You’re really naive. Why would I tell you who signs my paycheck? lol, so pathetic.

I don’t want the guys name, I want to now if it’s a corporation you work for. So is it? Or are you on the government payroll.

Joseph Glackin said:
Your words. Keep them. I said no such thing. If you stop putting words in my mouth, I’ll stop think of you as a hypocrite as well as a buffoon.

Went right over your head,heh. Again.

Garth said:
Is there any question what you are? I thought that issue was cleared up some time ago. Let me know and I’ll remind you.

Yeah, of the two of us, I’m the one with the job and I’m the one that pays the government (taxes) unlike you who only “receive” the “free” money….

Keeva said:
Actually, the GOP said if the tax breaks for over $250K were not extended, then everyone would get a tax hike because they would not accept anything else. Not quite the same thing. Same effect, but not what their position was.

There were Democrat proposals and Republican proposals. The primary effect of failing to reach an agreement would have been a government shutdown. The Democrats wanted to raise taxes, the Republicans wanted not to raise taxes. The Republicans prevailed and no one gets a tax hike. It’s that simple. And snowspot’s comment to which I was responding remains demonstrably false.

That problem should have been taken care of long before December. Unfortunately for the Democrats, and fortunately for the country, they didn’t have the guts to pass their budget before the election, when it was due.

Snowspot said:
Lol, you think our debt was accumulated in 2 years? XD

No, but the debt did get much higher in the last 2 years thanks to Obama and the Dems. And that is a fact.
Where have you been the last two years? Getting ready to positively spin Obama’s 3rd war in Libya or something?

timzank said:
So using your belief system that means you are an ex-con (you said above you didn’t cop a plea or use the system to get off like rush) that isn’t worthy of being paid attention to, you are a dirtbag because you didn’t admit you had a problem, you had to be arrested and convicted.

Never said I had been arrested or convicted of anything. As far as the rest – yes. Pull yourself up. It is the only way that really works. Playing victim by calling addiction a disease as if it is communicable or excusing it by weeping for the addicts helps nobody. What helps is the realization that you are ruining your life and the conscious decision – without the motivation of jail – to stop the drugs/alcohol.

Question – do you think Rush would have stopped the pills if he had not been arrested? Would Lohan have sobered up without being arrested? Ted Kennedy never got arrested so he had no motivation to stop until later in life when his wife really pushed. And no, I am not offended when Kennedy’s addictions come up. They are facts.

I am offended when someone who does not know me calls me a liar and decides my personal history for me.

Well, I did stop the drugs without being arrested. And I know others that have as well. Without rehab, without cloying therapists and enablers, without the threat of jail and without the glare of publicity.

timzank said:
I’m not defending Rush personally, I’m defending any addict that has to suffer being made fun of by people like you.

I do not believe I made fun of his addiction. It is a part of his reality. I made fun of the fact that he is a blowhard gasbag who has never once been honest about it and actually painted himself the victim. And I am fairly sure Limbaugh has no idea what suffering is.

He is entitled to his opinions and such and the radio stations have every right to broadcast him. But, in the same light that he gets to call anyone anything he wants, so do I. He wants to call Obama a dictator – fine. I want to call Limbaugh a convicted felon. See how that works? Free speech applies to everyone and not just bloated copwardly blowhards.

Tell you what – I will lay off his addiction (but not his criminal record) if you lay off the instant judgment thing. You know, calling people who disagree liar. Stuff like that.

Snowspot said:
You know what? I’d rather take my chances and let corporations charge me more than hand them my money. You’re really naive.

snowspot, could we a get a little warning when you’re about to deliver a logical Salchow like that, please? I think I sprained my frontal lobe reading that.

Pablo said:
There were Democrat proposals and Republican proposals. The primary effect of failing to reach an agreement would have been a government shutdown. The Democrats wanted to raise taxes, the Republicans wanted not to raise taxes.

Basically accurate. The Dem proposal called for only the over $250K rate to go up. The GOP proposal which did prevail called for the rates to stay as they were. However, that would not have shut down the government. Had nothing been done, everyone’s taxes would have gone up when the “Bush Tax Cuts” expired. (I put the name in quotes since it was not the actual name of the bill, but the media slang for it.)

The Congress had already passed a continuing resolution to keep the government open before the December tax deal.

I also agree that the Democrats largely put it off and put it off because they were too cowardly and too corrupt to actually do what they said they would do and chose to delay until they could blame someone else. If it is fair to put the blame where it belongs historically, then this mess rest squarely on Pelosi and Reid who could not get their own members – let alone Republicans – in Congress to pass any budget. Keep in mind that Obama sent the budget in February 2010 as required. Pelosi and Reid simply ignored it and hoped it would go away rather than actually try to pass something. In that regard, they exhibited a historical level of cowardice.

I am hoping that Boehner can be more assertive and force the Senate to enact an actual budget of some kind. They now have Ryan’s and Obama’s to work with so the only excuse they have is none.

Garth said:
If you had a frontal lobe. Serious doubts here. I’m thinking simple limbic system; makes sense.

Planaria?

timzank said:
Went right over your head,heh. Again.

Wasn’t talking to you. I’ve used up all my pity pads. Go cry on your sponsor’s shoulder.

Osama…oops…I mean Obama didn’t get invited because he’s Chicago trash.

Keeva said:
I have and I can tell you it is not fun nor is it anything I would wish on anyone else. Of course, I also did not use any influence to have charges reduced or restrictions lifted.

This is part of what lead me to believe you were lying.

timzank said:
This is part of what lead me to believe you were lying.

That was a reference to the use of influence in Florida by Limbaugh to get a way better deal than most. Perhaps it would have been clearer if I had said, “Of course since I have no arrests or convictions,…….”

See, a reasonable exchange between apparently reasonable people. If only more people could get there.

You misquoted Rush, he called Obama a “Dicktaster”, not a “Dictator”. Can you feel the Reggie Love, baby?

Limabauger Cheese

I had to register just so that I could finally say (in this case), you truly are an ass. Although I am a Democrat, it’s pea brains like you that actually give Republicans a bad name!

At the very end of the clip ‘ Rush-bo ‘ says he has a spring fling Golf thing. If you watch him waving his hands around it Looks to me like it could be Code for a Circle Jerk weekend with other Republican Knobs.