Balls of solid rock, gotta give her that 

Many times worse than what had been happening in Libya prior to Obama having his little war, yet just like the slaughter in Sudan these acts of evil are all but ignored.  Where’s all the liberals who were championing the action in Libya?  Why aren’t they demanding he do the same in Syria?

 1. Syria actually has an Air Force.
 2. Syria can actually fight back.
3.  Yet ANOTHER war in the middle-east, with Israel threatening to start another one separately, that would drag us in
4. We spent a billion in Libya and didn’t have ONE casualty. What do you think the cost and
casualties will be in Syria?

 Or Chuck, do you actually CARE about the facts?

–Cobra

 Why not have your own opinion on the matter instead of basing your comments exclusively on what “the other side” does?

FYI  Women don’t have balls

 Good question and one that is easy to answer. I wondered why George W. Bush did nothing about the genocide of Christians in Iraq during his Presidency. A genocide he helped create and a genocide against his own religion. But everyone knows why our government picks “winners and losers” as far as genocides go.

Compare it to the 91′ war in Iraq through 2002 if you like.  So you are saying as a liberal, the cost of saving a human life is more important than the number of human lives?   That the reason we went in to Libya was because we could do it on the cheap?   By the way, you seem to overestimate Syria’s military, Iraq was something like the 6th most powerful in the world when we pushed them out of Kuwait – how many lives were lost then?

We’ve been given a sneak peek & was given a taste of what a corrupt country or two can facilitate in damage to human life & full and willful participation in bloodshed by the mere fact that they happen to have UN veto power

It happens to be Russia and China in this case who chose to wield their UN-bestowed veto power to cover for and protect an ‘ally’ of theirs who happens to be psychopath and a mass murderer.

This is exactly what the US does when it vetoes any and all condemnation of Israel when it engages in similar acts of reprehensible mass murder and collective punishment to an unarmed population whose property it has confiscated and its population it has displaced and murdered.

Glad to know we’re in good company with China and Russia with veto-blood on our hands

As one of the last reporters there, I wonder if she was targeted? Especially after this report.. 

Sad. At least her final report brought truth to light.

You’re looking for a one-size-fits-all policy for the middle east. That’s just plain dumb. You have to take into consideration a whole range of factors, including the strength of the popular uprising, the cohesiveness of the government, the existence of WMDs, the scale of the human tragedy, our ability to actually affect the outcome, the cost of such involvement, the weapons and manpower available and, of course, whether we have a real national interest there.

Why is this too difficult for those who are still jealous of Obama’s success in Libya to grasp?

Actually the libtards seem to favor intervention here, they only oppose the war with iran, havent quite got there lies figured out yet

romney/west

hmm, using this story as an excuse to attack W. can we at least bury her first?

would you prefer the metaphor “boobs of solid rock” to feel better? 

Where’s all the liberals who were championing the action in Libya?  Why aren’t they demanding he do the same in Syria?

Republicans wanted intervention in Libya more than Democrats, so your point becomes moot (not that you had one anyway, other than to air your nonsensical ideological ramblings.) 

Recent polls suggest Republicans support the war more than Democrats, but independents oppose the military intervention, the command of which the administration is now beginning to hand over to

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-speech-gadhafi-conservatives/2011/03/28/id/390960

Try using nuance sometime, it’s a much better look than broadsweeping generalizations that have no factual basis.

That’s an extremely narrow view, but I give up, need to get to work.  I’ll check back later to see if there’s signs of sanity on this thread.   One size fits all is certainly naive, if you look at the history of all our responses to similar situations in the past there’s many options that are available, yet just like the uprising in Iran our current government has had a hands off approach, whereas in Libya they were unusually aggressive and responding to arguably less of a need.   I’m not advocating anything specifically, I’m questioning why those who were insistent Iraq and Afghanistan were wrong and Libya (& Egypt) was right believe Sudan and Syria are to be ignored.  My opinion is it has less to do with the facts on the ground and more to do with the political parties involved, and I think that is regrettable.

I think you’re agreeing with me that there’s no way to apply the same approach in each instance. I don’t see how that’s a “narrow view.” To the contrary, I’m saying that at least a hundred different factors come into play — and, yes, political considerations are among them. I’ve never said that Iraq and Afghanistan were both entirely wrong — there were some reasonable cases to be made for those invasions — but there was also a lot that the administration ignored and at the end of the day they wound up being bigger headaches for the US than we were lead to believe they would be. Obama has learned from those mistakes and so far his policy in the middle east of “leading from behind” has been proven sound.

I hate what’s happening in Syria. It’s been a dictatorship for a very long time, through both Republican and Democratic administrations.  A civil war has been going on for a year, and it reeks of being an East-West proxy war.  In Libya, we were able to help overthrow one dictator without too much American money or blood.  We don’t seem to have found a way to help the Syrian revolutionaries yet.  All we can do now is to pay attention to it and figure out a way to help.

Jesse Jackson wanted to cut-off Obama’s balls… no need, they shriveled-up and dropped-off all by themselves.

 The problem with helping “revolutionaries”, is you don’t know what they may turn out to be.
The US certainly funded and armed the resistance in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union, but the groups they turned into after we left came back to bite us.

–Cobra

I wondered that myself when the actual report was airing, if she wasn’t putting herself in harms way.

It is truly sad and I commend her and other reporters who risk their lives to spotlight the atrocitites that are being commited by these ruthless a**holes.

His day is coming, just like the other a**holes got what was coming to them.  

 Libya had an Air Force. What about Responsibility to Protect? How did it apply in Libya but not in Syria? http://blackquillandink.com/?page_id=9117

The answer is simple: Oil. Europe’s oil.

 This is success?
Amnesty International report brands Libya’s militias ‘out of control’

 Try using consistency sometime instead of R vs D.

You wouldn’t be happy whatever the Obama administration does.  You would find fault no matter the outcome and you would bleat for the opposite.

And, possibly, Egypt. 

The Syrian government is not allowing humanitarian aid in, and is deliberately shelling hospitals.

Hillary Clinton’s handling of the Middle East is an abject mess.  The area is blowing in her face and when a country stabilizes what happens is bigger wackos take over from the dictators that were done away with.

 What are you talking about? What…people are uprising on Hillary’s command?

–Cobra

FROTH SAD TO HEAR THIS STORY BUT FROTH HAVE TO ASK, WHY PATCH OVER EYE? WHEN YOU WEAR PATCH OVER EYE PEOPLE THINK YOU’RE TOUGH WHEN THEY THINK YOU’RE TOUGH THEY WANT KNOW HOW TOUGH. SOMEONE TELL FROTH WHY PATCH OVER EYE.

“When you get an eye patch, people think you’re tough. When people think
you’re tough, people want to see how tough. When people want to see how
tough, you shelled in a Syria roadside ditch. Don’t get shelled in a Syria in a roadside
ditch. Get the hell out of Syria and watch  Al Jazeera from the safety of your home”

It’s going to be interesting to see how Russia, China and Iran get involved when Barry starts to send weapons to the Syrian rebels. Remember what Iran said about supporting any country that will attack the west or what they would do if the U.S. got involved in Syria like we did in Libya?

I can’t wait to see all those stolen Heckler & Koch guns from Libya ending up in war zone around Africa, the Middle East and Mexico drug cartels.

guns in Libya
http://www.shabablibya.org/news/german-rifles-in-gaddafi-compound

Guns in Mexico that are much better weapons system than U.S. made AR-15s (not M4s) that end up in Mexico. AR-15 is a M4 clone. The M4 is the real deal U.S. military issued assault rifle

http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/news/

Terrible.

http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/world/journalists-remi-ochlik-and-marie-colvin-killed-in-syria.html

She looks like a pirate with that eye patch. Rest in pieces, dear. LOL
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

There’s an interview of Anthony Shadid by Terry Gross of the Fresh Air show on NPR, obviously from some time before he went off on his most recent trip (where he had the asthma attack that killed him) where he Shadid described how his getting into  Syria was more unsettling by an order of magnitude than anything he’d experienced in covering events in Libya, Eqypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Yemen, Lebanon, anywhere else under the Arab Spring definition. Among other things, Shadid made the point that had his presence in Syria become known to government security forces, he knew he’d be killed; but the other thing was in discussing the situation in Homs, which the Bashad regime, father & son, have both used as a whipping boy, starving the residents in the manner of siege, then bombarding them, to the point where one is reminded of the level of devastation identified with the repeated attacks on the M.E. by the Khan dynasty, where entire cities were completely obliterated. Colvin would have to have known about all this, so her being there represented something beyond ‘normal’ reporter risk. 

I disagree with your characterization of the situation on several levels; I think you’re being facile & lazy. Firstly, there’s no meaning to your “through both R… and D… administrations”. The U.S. has no authority over that area, and no responsibility either. Go back & read your ancient history; the Assyssid-Assyrian (Syria plus Persia) Empire was the dominant force in the M.E., & the Levant & eastern Mediterranean & southern arc of the Black Sea, for hundreds & hundreds of years going back to before 1000 B.C.E., to well before any of the empires of Rome, Carthage, Greece, Sicily or Phoenicia. 

I don’t understand on what bases you think you can justify this as any sort of proxy war, at all. Some wars are proxy wars: the Iraq-Iran decade long war in the 1980s was US versus China, as we supplied Saddam Hussein with all manner of nasty weaponry, including land mines & gas; but Libya wasn’t any sort of proxy action, & I think it may be the better analogy with Syria, where the US & UK involvement until recently was out of convenience, for access to Iraq in the invasion (much as with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, & to some extent Iran – yes, Iran cooperated with us in the run-up to & early stages of our 2003 invasion) – & in providing a peculiarly nasty & disgusting menu of torture services that our other allies in Jordan & Egypt didn’t have the stomach for. But Poppy Bashad was a bad bad bastard before & independent of any ‘relationship’ with the US, & the Baby Bashad certainly hasn’t needed US support for being just as bad bad a bastard. 

Now consider what happened in Libya last year: it wasn’t the US that won that, or that was even pivotal; we were in a support role, an important & effective one, but nonetheless a support role, to NATO & other regional interests, our allies, in THEY having picked to go with the rebels. Once our allies made that choice, that put us to the choice, & put the US in an awkward situation, one which Obama handled about as well as one can imagine (I haven’t seen any compelling alternative, with GOP candidates being all over the map on this, from none of our business RoPaul to should have invaded Bachmann.).

If you really want to keep up on all this stuff: 

http://www.juancole.com/ 

Check the avatar name; methinks we’ve received a visit from a wee concern troll. 

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Very brave woman, very brave.
Sometimes when I see those images provided by these brave men and women, I feel ashamed. Ashamed that I am a merely a voyeur in the room witnessing some of the most horrible montrosities that I have ever seen and there is nothing I can do about it but weep for their souls. These reporters and these citizens are more brave than I can ever hope to be.
I sit at home behind my keyboard ranting and raving at others on here, criticizing the politicians and their policies and the media who reports on them and anyone else who happens to be unfortunate enough to get caught up in the 24 hour news cycle.
But, I can tell you this, I have never been more proud to be a citizen in the United States of America and it truly is the greatest nation on earth.

The makeshift media center where Marie Colvin died was indeed targeted. 11 (eleven) missiles hit the building. That doesn’t happen by accident.