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Megyn Kelly Probes Double Standard On Gaffes Of Bachmann And Schumer

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Last Sunday, Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer appeared on CNN to discuss the debt ceiling, but made other headlines when he mistakenly referred to the “three branches of government” as the House, the Senate and the President, but left out the Judicial branch of government. Today on Fox News, Megyn Kelly explored why if Sarah Palin or Congresswoman Michele Bachmann made the same gaffe, it would have been headline news everywhere as opposed to the scant coverage Schumer received.

Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein‘s rationale for the different treatment was that “people think Chuck Schumer is very smart, and they think that for a reason, because he is really smart, so he will get some latitude.” In other words, it seems in Gerstein’s view, that since the jury is out on Palin’s and Bachmann’s intelligence, then jumping on every verbal mistake they make is fair game? Kelly accurately summed up the concern with some fun word choice, wondering “could there be some sexism in saying those two, the pretty ones on the right, they’re the dum-dums, but this guy over here, he’s a smarty-pants?”

Conservative commentator Mike Gallagher attempted to back her up, arguing conservative women are unfairly targeted and claimed that since Schumer is on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and still forgot the Judicial branch, then clearly he’s not that smart. Yet Kelly threw some cold water on his argument by bringing up a quote Gallagher himself said about liberal Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi: “I simply said if you threw a bucket of water on her it would be interesting to see what happens.”

When I wrote about Schumer’s appearance immediately after it occurred, I did not sweep his gaffe under the rug, but I wrongly predicted that “despite some feelings being hurt with the Supreme Court, such little verbal mistakes should not ruffle too many feathers.” Well, given the recent treatment of Bachmann and Palin as of late, and the hysteria that any mistake they make creates, maybe Schumer’s gaffe in fact was deserving of a brighter spotlight. However, it does seem preferable to have members of both political parties feel like they have the freedom to completely express their thoughts, rather than constantly fear being victim of a “gotcha media” eager to exploit any and every verbal mistake.

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  • josecuervoisgood

    Schumer’s gaffe should be treated as just a minor incident and he did correct himself shortly after saying it. What would be more interesting is to compare the treatment Palin and Bachman receive versus the human gaffe machines Harry Reid and Joe Biden.

  • Dem4Ever

    Schumer, hey dude, you’re an idiot…get it..? got it..? good!

  • Cancon2

    The Gotchas, seem to work only one way. R = , We blast the hell out of you and scream , stupid moron conservative from the Media Mountain Tops!!!

    D= Minor Gaffe, becasue Liberals as so darn smart.

    57 States agree.

  • RichS

    Joe Biden should be sent to Egypt to explain to the people that they are not being ruled by a dictator, that should settle things down really fast.

  • tatboy

    At least Chuck didn’t say there are 58 states… I mean really… who would be dumb enough to say something THAT stupid. ;)

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Matty, the problem I had with your piece is that if it had been Palin, Mediaite would have put that in the headline instead of burying it in the article. You can deny that, but there are plenty of examples of past articles that prove me right.

  • CosmosDan

    There’s a difference between a slip of the tongue , and embarrassing gaffe that happens occasionally, and a pattern of speech that displays a lack of depth or intentional distortion.

  • BFD

    “people think Chuck Schumer is very smart, and they think that for a reason, because he is really smart, so he will get some latitude.”

    Good point.
    Children need to be corrected.

    Adults….not so much.

  • Stratdude

    Fox sewer cheesecake fake journalist chick wonders why palin and bachmann are treated as idiots — they all three get today’s “Big Duh” award.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    And BFD just to clarify, would you put yourself in the child or adult category?

  • AngelPeters

    That was a fair and balanced debate. Bravo.

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    And BFD just to clarify, would you put yourself in the child or adult category?

    Now now now chelle, let’s not make this about me.

    That’s all you teabloggers seem to do. lolol

  • tatboy

    CosmosDan said:
    There’s a difference between a slip of the tongue , and embarrassing gaffe that happens occasionally, and a pattern of speech that displays a lack of depth or intentional distortion.

    And liberals get to decide which is which???

  • Jon Bershad

    I think the rush to condemn Sean Hannity over something he didn’t say yesterday proves that it wasn’t a sexism issue. And, no, I don’t think it’s a Right/Left issue. I think that, in this instance, it has to do with the fact that Schumer isn’t as well known with the regular public and his error (while bad) just isn’t as juicy as something involving slavery (Bachmann).

    Gerstein has a point. Once someone is branded as “dumb,” people will look for and seize on examples. Same with other negative qualities public figures are known for. If there was a picture that caught Bill Clinton looking at a pretty girl walking by, it’d go viral. If there was a picture where it appeared Bachmann was looking at a handsome man, there wouldn’t be nearly the same reaction because she’s not known for being lecherous.

  • tatboy

    58 states… corpsman… “I don’t what happend, but the cop acted stupidly”…how many before it become a pattern of stupid and not a gaffe??

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Libs are stuck with that lib gene. It only allows them see things one way, their way. Everyone that posts on this site has proven that they are cowards and liars.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Every one ot them……..Just to make it clear for the libs.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    tatboy said:
    58 states… corpsman… “I don’t what happend, but the cop acted stupidly”…how many before it become a pattern of stupid and not a gaffe??

    He can’t be stupid, he is black and a liberal. If he was black and conservative then it is okay to call him stupid.
    Obama CLAIMS to be an expert on the Constituion. He doesn’t have a clue what the Constitution says or means.

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    “Megyn Kelly Probes Media’s Double Standard On Gaffes Of Bachmann And Schumer”

    WEAK ! Why not expose the MASSIVE lamestream socialist fake-news DOUBLE STANDARD on statements by bush vs. those by “You Lie!” hussein, who they protect at all costs.

    Some examples of the DOUBLE STANDARD between bush and “You Lie!”:

    If George Bush had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse – as “You LIe!” did – would you think him an idiot?
    If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a TelePrompTer installed to be able to get through a press conference,would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
    If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?
    If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
    If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?
    If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, the ruler of Japan, the President of China, etc, etc, etc, would you have approved?
    If George W.. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent “Austrian language,” would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?
    If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , would you have said that he is clueless.
    If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in Texas , would you have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.
    If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to “Cinco de Cuatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?
    If George W. Bush had misspelled the word “advice” would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoes as proof of what a dunce he is?

    So, tell me again, what is it about “You Lie!” hussein that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can’t think of anything? Don’t worry. He’s done all this in 21 months — so you’ll have two years to come up with an answer.
    Every bumble by “You Lie!” hussein is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    And, no, I don’t think it’s a Right/Left issue

    Bullcrap Jon!

  • Calvin

    tatboy said:
    58 states… corpsman… “I don’t what happend, but the cop acted stupidly”…how many before it become a pattern of stupid and not a gaffe??

    Clearly, you are in need of a lobotomy. I’ll get the inhalator. I don’t want you punished with a baby. It’d be like the special olympics or something.

  • Arkansas Steve

    Great post TeaPartyPatriot.
    Now if you will just learn to control your anger a bit, people might pay more attention to what you say & less to your screaming anger.
    It’s not easy, but work on it.

  • timcajun

    Kelly never spends one sec. defending a liberal, but they are the “tea network”! When you speak of Palins and Bachmann mistakes, there are not enough hours in the day! A liberal makes a corrected mistake, rare or not, and the teas love it! There is a big difference between a slip and continual dis-proven, wild theories and history changing lies! Keep reporting one side “Fox” the teas love it!

  • TfT

    Shumer got a pass becuase he is a lefty – lefties always protect other lefties, and all media personalities (well, most of them) are lefties.

    Katie, Brian, Dianne, and everyone else would have had a hissy fit, headlines would have been blasting anywhere/everywhere had Palin said this. She is a conservative, pro-life woman and the lefties hate her for it.

    Schumer got a pass because he is a lefty. Simple…lefties get away with it, righties don’t. Look what Couric did to Palin and what she didn’t do to Biden, even though his gaffes were gaffetastic. He is a dem, Palin not…therefore Palin got shit on, Biden got smiled on.

    Duh

  • CosmosDan

    tatboy said:
    And liberals get to decide which is which???

    No. reasonable and intelligent people ought to be able to tell the difference rather than making judgments based solely along partisan lines.

    I honestly can’t stand the rush to criticize in the sound bite focused media. Constantly calling people stupid for a mere slip of the tongue is nonsense. Name calling over something like that doesn’t impress me and it comes from both sides.
    If someone is in the public eye a lot they’re going to have more of those, but the content of planned speeches, continued distortions of facts etc. matters.

  • BFD

    Arkansas Steve said:
    Great post TeaPartyPatriot.

    I’m not sure a wall of copypasta is ever a great post except for the person who originally posted it.

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    And, no, I don’t think it’s a Right/Left issue Bullcrap Jon!

    My dear tormented Michelle-in-Utah, have you ever considered trying a role other than the perpetual victim? I think you under utilize your talents. For example, I think you might do very well in the role of the German widow who reports her nighbors to the police for listening to the BBC or as the understudy who breaks the actress’ leg to get her chance on the stage. I know I am using far too many tissues hearing from you and Megyn about how all rightist women are forever victimized.

  • tatboy

    Calvin said:
    Clearly, you are in need of a lobotomy. I’ll get the inhalator. I don’t want you punished with a baby. It’d be like the special olympics or something.

    What???

  • tatboy

    BFD said:
    I’m not sure a wall of copypasta is ever a great post except for the person who originally posted it.

    Tell that to Color Me Badd…

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Matty, the problem I had with your piece is that if it had been Palin, Mediaite would have put that in the headline instead of burying it in the article. You can deny that, but there are plenty of examples of past articles that prove me right.

    Plus, we have your constant pronouncements of your infallibility. You and the Holy Father seem to have that market cornered.

  • The Real Royal King

    tatboy said:
    Tell that to Color Me Badd…

    True.

  • CosmosDan

    Jon Bershad said:
    Gerstein has a point. Once someone is branded as “dumb,” people will look for and seize on examples. Same with other negative qualities public figures are known for. If there was a picture that caught Bill Clinton looking at a pretty girl walking by, it’d go viral. If there was a picture where it appeared Bachmann was looking at a handsome man, there wouldn’t be nearly the same reaction because she’s not known for being lecherous.

    Right. It’s unfair and pointless to constantly single out minor mistakes and ignore the larger content,
    It does seem reasonable to point out a pattern of mistakes and evaluate the content of those who seek the public eye and media attention specifically for commenting on policy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    See, Megyn, the difference is that Schumer made an honest mistake and knows the difference. Bachmann or Palin? They wouldn’t know the difference. There’s a difference between a mistake and being a dumba$$. And Bachmann is a dumba$$ without equal – well, one – Palin.

  • The Real Royal King

    There actually is something to this. If the stupidest kid in the class fails a test, the teacher says, “Well, he is the most stupid kid in the class.” If the brightest kid in the class fails a test, the teacher says, “I must not have covered that topic as well as I thought.”

    Everryone makes mistakes.

    Schumer is bright, articulate. When he makes a gaffe, people assume it is just a gaffe.

    Mad Michelle is a tongue-tied but rabid ideologue. When she makes a gaffe, people assume that she is making up stuff again or that she was multi-tasking poorly, merrily dreaming about kicking children out of kindergarten or the elderly out of assisted living centers whilst trying to make a serious policy statement.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    RRKING taking care of Army’s relationship gaffes.

    RRKING on cooking . I was sitting home yesterday afternoon feeling bad about my spat with Armando . I tuned into a television show about cooking Italian . Well , I enjoy everything Italian , from Fabio to fettuccine ! The young chef , Giada something , seemed attractive for a female , although she looked to have too many teeth ! Arms will never eat Italian food , so I decided to pamper myself and prepare a feast of just that ! I browned some ground beef , boiled some vermicelli and added some tomato sauce . Magia ! I call it Spaghetti Bobbi ! I put a plate of SB on the coffee table , fetched a bottle of Sagrantino and my favorite Flintstones ‘ glass ( Wilma ) and I was ready . I settled in to watch the young newsman Chris Matthews on TV fill us all in on what that Glenn Beck said yesterday . Una notte perfetta ! ©

  • Obeezy

    Bill Adkins said:
    See, Megyn, the difference is that Schumer made an honest mistake and knows the difference. Bachmann or Palin? They wouldn’t know the difference. There’s a difference between a mistake and being a dumba$$. And Bachmann is a dumba$$ without equal – well, one – Palin.

    How do you know he knows the difference? How do you know Palin doesnt? Please tell me Mr Science what is Obama thinking now and how much will oranges cost in the summer?

  • Obeezy

    The Real Royal King said:
    There actually is something to this. If the stupidest kid in the class fails a test, the teacher says, “Well, he is the most stupid kid in the class.” If the brightest kid in the class fails a test, the teacher says, “I must not have covered that topic as well as I thought.”

    Everryone makes mistakes.

    Schumer is bright, articulate. When he makes a gaffe, people assume it is just a gaffe.

    Mad Michelle is a tongue-tied but rabid ideologue. When she makes a gaffe, people assume that she is making up stuff again or that she was multi-tasking poorly, merrily dreaming about kicking children out of kindergarten or the elderly out of assisted living centers whilst trying to make a serious policy statement.

    People assume? No liberals assume and we all know how liberals ASS sume

  • NORBIT

    LOL!

    Schumer’s TOO SMART?

    Gerstein inadvertently provided his own anecdote to the whole problem — The PETRIFIED Liberal Mindset!
    It’s THEIR life-views, and anyone disagreeing with them must be stupid (and, of course, a RACIST!).

    This supercilious, almost Cult-like self-righteousness on the Progressive Left precludes any openeness to reason.

    Hence, my admonition:
    You can’t reason with Progressive Liberals, you must defeat them at the polls.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Liberals honestly think that anyone who disagrees with their views is a stupid moron. The American people are sick of being told that. As evidence, I site the last election. Keep it up, please!! You’ve already lost alot of the Independents due to your arrogance, but a few are still sticking around.

  • turk281

    You mostly hear about dumb stuff being said by conservatives because most in the media lean left.

    What about Democratic congressman Henry Waxman? He is not only dumb, but uninformed. He held hearings on steroids in Baseball, and he doesn’t even know if steroids are legal!! On top of that he didn’t know the legal drinking age!! He is a lawmaker. That’s frightening.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1IeBlnLrY

    Sheila Jackson Lee has said an insane amount of dumb crap like “Today, we have two Vietnams, side by side, North and South, exchanging and working.”

    And who was the congresswoman who suggested that the Taliban did great things for women in Afghanistan before we invaded?

    Unfortunately if you’re not knocked by Stewart, Letterman, SNL, Colbert, Maher, it’s not really talked about much.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    great minds think alike, I see Norbit.

  • CosmosDan

    BFD said:
    I’m not sure a wall of copypasta is ever a great post except for the person who originally posted it.

    It’s not even an impressive list. I mean holy crap, were they not around for the ongoing parade of Bushisms ?

    http://www.slate.com/id/76886/

  • NORBIT

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    great minds think alike, I see Norbit.

    MEGADITTOS! – That should put anyone hanging around from the KOS in a tizzy! lol

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Turk, one of my personal faves is DEM Hank Johnson, who is worried that Guam might tip over!

  • CosmosDan

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Liberals honestly think that anyone who disagrees with their views is a stupid moron.

    That’s just stupid and not at all true.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Nancy Pelosi on the economy: “every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Barack Obama on a tornado that killed twelve people: “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died – an entire town destroyed”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    I think you’re wrong and I’m right, sorry Dan. I’m not saying ALL, but alot.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Joe Biden on the economy: “The number one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Henry Waxman on Environmentalism: “We’re seeing the reality of a lot of the North Pole starting to evaporate, and we could get to a tipping point. Because if it evaporates to a certain point – they have lanes now where ships can go that couldn’t ever sail through before. And if it gets to a point where it evaporates too much, there’s a lot of tundra that’s being held down by that ice cap.”

  • The Real Royal King

    Obeezy said:
    People assume? No liberals assume and we all know how liberals ASS sume

    Did you make that up? Do you mind if I use it some time? I’m thinking of paintng it on a bowl and serving a big helping of tepid pablum in it?

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Liberals honestly think that anyone who disagrees with their views is a stupid moron. The American people are sick of being told that. As evidence, I site the last election. Keep it up, please!! You’ve already lost alot of the Independents due to your arrogance, but a few are still sticking around.

    I’m pretty sure that’s why Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid lost.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    California Senator Barbara Boxer: “Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, ‘Thank God, I’m still alive.’ But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again.”

  • Nacho

    It’s because she so pretty.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, DC: “If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Senator Chris Dodd, while on the campaign trail: “Eight more days and I can start telling the truth again” Sen. Chris Dodd, on the campaign trail.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Jerry Brown, governor of California: “The conventional viewpoint says we need a jobs program and we need to cut welfare. Just the opposite! We need more welfare and fewer jobs.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, DC: “I am clearly more popular than Reagan. I am in my third term. Where’s Reagan? Gone after two! Defeated by George Bush and Michael Dukakis no less.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Joe Biden, on the mother of Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen, who is, in fact, still alive: “His mom lived in Long Island for ten years or so. God rest her soul. And- although, she’s- wait- your mom’s still- your mom’s still alive. Your dad passed. God bless her soul.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on the newly passed health care law: “We actually have not required in this law that you carry health insurance.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Congressman John Dingell on freedom: “The harsh fact of the matter is when you’re passing legislation that will cover 300 million American people in different ways, it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.”

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    John Kerry on health care: “I’m going to be honest with you — I don’t know a lot about Cuba’s healthcare system. Is it a government-run system?”

  • turk281

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Turk, one of my personal faves is DEM Hank Johnson, who is worried that Guam might tip over!

    Haha. I forgot about that gem. That’s just frightening.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Nancy Pelosi on legislation: “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”

    That was fun.

  • The Real Royal King

    I’m sure we all want to thank Mediaite for giving the Tormented Michelle-in-Utah the opportunity to regurgitate every gaffe ever made by any Democratic politician, thereby affording her some meaning in life. There’s is nothing as sad as a picker with an empty cotton bag.

  • Calvin
  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    John Kerry on health care: “I’m going to be honest with you — I don’t know a lot about Cuba’s healthcare system. Is it a government-run system?”

    So how do you classify your hysterical rant about the Mexican invasion of the ranches in South Texas. Never happened, as we’ve previously demonstrated. Does that put you in league with Schumer or Bachmann?

    Or, the remarkable claim that your income taxes, but no one else’s had been increased? Kerry or Palin?

  • notsofast

    Well, I think an incredible stupid gaffe like the one Schumer made is completely understandable.

    I mean after all, he is a Harvard Law grad and we have already seen what kind of dullards it produces.

  • The Real Royal King

    I’m not sure I’ve ever seen as grand a mental breakdown is we are now witnessing with the Tormented Michelle-in-Utah. I expect her to fling herself onto the floor and begin eating the carpet any moment now.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    Well, I think an incredible stupid gaffe like the one Schumer made is completely understandable. I mean after all, he is a Harvard Law grad and we have already seen what kind of dullards it produces.

    Can you rush over to the Tormented Michelle-in-Utah’s house and hold her tongue down with a spoon before she causes serious damage to herself and the drywall?

  • darrell

    Everybody makes mistakes, but when you do it all the time, then its a problem. Lets be really Ms Bachmann
    states so crazy all the dam time.

  • Calvin

    CosmosDan said:
    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Liberals honestly think that anyone who disagrees with their views is a stupid moron.
    That’s just stupid and not at all true.

    http://www.blip.tv/file/4114470?utm_source=player_embedded

    You’re right. They don’t think that anyone who disagrees with their views is a stupid moron. We all have a little Homer Simpson in us. It’s not just people who disagree with their views that our stupid, it’s everybody. Yea.

  • turk281

    One could write an epic novel on the stupidity of Nancy Pelosi. It would be hard to pick a favorite, but I love her claim that unemployment “creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name”.

    She’s just one of a number of economic geniuses in California.

  • notsofast

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Joe Biden, on the mother of Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen, who is, in fact, still alive: “His mom lived in Long Island for ten years or so. God rest her soul. And- although, she’s- wait- your mom’s still- your mom’s still alive. Your dad passed. God bless her soul.”

    You forgot about Joe’s “Mediumship.”

    “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”

    There are, of course, a few historical inaccuracies there. First, Herbert Hoover was president when the stock market crashed, in 1929. Roosevelt did not take office until March of 1933. When he did, Roosevelt communicated to the people over radio — not television.

  • valkyrie101

    Yea, she’s right. Palin/Bachman 2012

  • The Real Royal King

    We appear to be in the midst of some sort of non-forcible non-rape orgasmic frenzy starring the Tormented Michelle-in-Utah with special cameos by Nutso and Kalvin. I think the gentlemanly thing for me to do will be to cover my eyes, indeed to depart this thread, and so shall I do. I will send Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower over with a mop.

  • RichS

    darrell said:
    Everybody makes mistakes, but when you do it all the time, then its a problem. Lets be really Ms Bachmannstates so crazy all the dam time.

    When you are critizing another for mistakes in expressing themselves you should try to write a sentence that can be clearly understood. Or even understood. Or closely guessed at!

  • tws258

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tormented Michelle-in-Utah

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tormented Michelle-in-Utah’s

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tormented Michelle-in-Utah

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tormented Michelle-in-Utah

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tormented Michelle-in-Utah

    You’re so pwned !

  • CosmosDan

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I think you’re wrong and I’m right, sorry Dan. I’m not saying ALL, but alot.

    Well I was making a joke but calling people stupid just for disagreeing is….stupid. Just like the assumption that the opposition lies all the time while the home team doesn’t. It’s just ludicrous and childish and frankly my dear, you participate all the time.
    What’s the point of criticizing others for their distorted partisan view while constantly displaying your own.
    How many times does the term stupid lib, libtard, etc appear just on this site?

  • nice_thought

    Lady’s beautiful face in the middle is distracting me from the important discussion they are having.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Come on Dan, sometimes libs ARE being stupid here! Can’t I call them stupid then? I don’t mean all of them are.

  • Gasket

    There is a very good reason why those 2 women’s comments (or gaffes) generate a lot of attention. They are attention whores and they are demagogues. Some obscure Republican backbencher in the house would not elicit the same amount of attention for gaffes. If there’s any double standard, it’s one of political media stars and one of non-media stars.

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Come on Dan, sometimes libs ARE being stupid here! Can’t I call them stupid then? I don’t mean all of them are.

    You make a lot of stupid comments yourself….like Liberals wanting a tragedy involving the death of Americans to boost the President’s poll numbers.

  • CosmosDan

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Come on Dan, sometimes libs ARE being stupid here! Can’t I call them stupid then? I don’t mean all of them are.

    I was referring to your assertion that liberals consider people stupid for simple disagreement. Plenty of conservative posters seem to react exactly that way.
    but now that you mention it.
    There is a way to call out a specific argument without insulting the individual. Let the topic and the discussion be the thing , not the person
    as in

    that argument is nonsense , or ridiculous is one thing
    making it personal as in :you are an idiot , is another.

  • huntingtonboy

    To begin with Mike Gallagher is a lightweight who will say anything to get on TV. So, what it comes down to this. Would you trust a failed VP candidate who turned out to be a half term Governor with a bad reality TV show who has trouble with English to be POTUS and control the Nation’s Nuclear weapons. Megyn Kelly is very smart and I bet you should wouldn’t trust Sarah with that kind of responsibility.

  • screwauger

    Gasket said:
    There is a very good reason why those 2 women’s comments (or gaffes) generate a lot of attention. They are attention whores and they are demagogues. Some obscure Republican backbencher in the house would not elicit the same amount of attention for gaffes. If there’s any double standard, it’s one of political media stars and one of non-media stars.

    You make a lot of stupid comments yourself….like Liberals wanting a tragedy involving the death of Americans to boost the President’s poll numbers.

    why wouldn’t we all think that about the libs. Everything they say and do is to spin the truth because they are unable own up to their own agenda. Take Obowmao care for one. If it was SO WONDERFUL, then why could no one see it or debate it.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Gaskey says:

    You make a lot of stupid comments yourself….like Liberals wanting a tragedy involving the death of Americans to boost the President’s poll numbers.

    Um I was quoting a DEM Mark Penn, that said Obama needed his own OK City to improve his approval. Now I realize that breaks the 11th commandment, Thou shalt not use a liberals OWN words against him, but I don’t subscribe to that so it’s ok.

    And Dan, I actually believe that alot of libs do think that are intellectually superior to those on the other side. I stand by that opinion.

  • screwauger

    IMO anyone on this site trying to defend the fact that there is no double standard in politics (be that men/women, right/left, etc) is simply not credible and has a closed mind.

  • timzank

    Gasket said:
    You make a lot of stupid comments yourself….like Liberals wanting a tragedy involving the death of Americans to boost the President’s poll numbers.

    Uhhh, I don’t know where you were after tucson, but the rest of us here on this planet watched as the left sucked every little bit of poll building mileage out of that tragedy possible. What famous liberal once said “Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste”????

    T-shirts on the chairs at Tucson?

    You people have no soul.

  • Grammie

    Calvin said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc

    .
    That is so bad on more than one level. He obviously doesn’t have a clue about asthma so why pick that to try to make a point.

    Yes, Mr President, people do bring their kids to the hospital for asthma, a treatable illness, b/c that is often the only place to get the treatment needed to save their lives. Without hospital level care some astma attacks can be fatal.

  • RunSarahRun

    Oh I don’t know… maybe it has something to do with Bachmann’s proven track record of saying stupid things???

  • timzank

    RunSarahRun said:
    Oh I don’t know… maybe it has something to do with Bachmann’s proven track record of saying stupid things???

    57 states, corpse-man, shall I go on? There are many many more, probably just as many as Bachmann.

    OR

    We could go with Greasy Joe, stand up! clean articulate, etc etc etc…

    Don’t EVEN go there, we have waaaaay more ammunition…

  • ndanielson

    sparsum cockroaches sparsum!

    Garth. said:
    This from a a guy who sells meth from his double-wide?

    Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. If only liberals would learn what the Greeks knew so many years ago.

  • Grammie

    The Real Royal King said:
    There’s is nothing as sad as a picker with an empty cotton bag.

    .
    Except the pathetic obsessed little twerp who counts every boll that goes in that sack.

    That goes beyond sad to truly pitiful!

  • screwauger

    timzank said:
    57 states, corpse-man, shall I go on? There are many many more, probably just as many as Bachmann.

    OR

    We could go with Greasy Joe, stand up! clean articulate, etc etc etc…

    Don’t EVEN go there, we have waaaaay more ammunition…

    agreed. There is no argument to make when one has been paying attention to this administration. Look at the replays Bush got trying to open the wrong door in Asia. How many times have we seen the vid of Obowmao trying to get his umbrella under the trellis? Crickets. F off to anyone trying to defend this. Even if O/T slightly, the major network media and the overwhelming majority of cable media news is in the Tank for the Left and they refuse to report anything they perceive as damaging to the lefts cause. Why aren’t we hearing about the gas prices now. When a righty is in the WH OMG it’s gas price super headlines in all the above noted media outlets.

  • timzank

    Garth. said:
    From one morn to another. Very good gentlemen. You set a new low for combined IQ’s.

    Uh, what is a morn?

  • ndanielson

    Garth. said:
    From one morn to another. Very good gentlemen. You set a new low for combined IQ’s.

    timzank said:
    Uh, what is a morn?

    A morn is a moron to the nth degree. I guess that would mean that he is a moron x2 to the nth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Jon Bershad said:
    And, no, I don’t think it’s a Right/Left issue.

    You’ve got to be kidding me? Can you name a single Democrat that gets the “dumb” treatment from the media that we see with EVERY SINGLE prominent Republican/right leaning figure?

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    A morn is a moron to the nth degree. I guess that would mean that he is a moron x2 to the nth.

    After further examination he is in fact a moron+moron to the nth.

  • CosmosDan

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    And Dan, I actually believe that alot of libs do think that are intellectually superior to those on the other side. I stand by that opinion.

    I don’t completely disagree with that because I’ve seen it but generalizations don’t help much.
    Conservatives can be condescending and superior as well. Deal with the individual. A degree from a fancy school or financial success doesn’t make people’s opinions more correct. Facts and sound reasoning is also required, a decent moral compass and maybe some common sense. Even smart informed people can think too highly of their own opinion regardless of ideology.

  • ndanielson

    Grammie said:
    The Real Royal King said:
    There’s is nothing as sad as a picker with an empty cotton bag.

    Well you are a sad empty nutbag who tries to be a picker. That is, a nit picker about anything except your momma’s hill country peaches, or anything your fellow sheep have to say.

  • Powerslave

    Jon Bershad said:
    I I think that, in this instance, it has to do with the fact that Schumer isn’t as well known with the regular public..

    Well, whose fault is that? The man is a veteran U.S. Senator (elected 1998) and is the third ranking Democrat in the Senate. Bachmann is a rooky Congresswoman.

  • ndanielson

    Sparsum, cockroaches, sparsum! As much as I hate the term, LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    If Megan Kelly was ugly you would never post her work. Whoever the 13 year prepubescent who keeps posting her really bad stories please give it a rest. YOu can play that fantasy out at home.

  • Gasket

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Gaskey says:

    You make a lot of stupid comments yourself….like Liberals wanting a tragedy involving the death of Americans to boost the President’s poll numbers.

    Um I was quoting a DEM Mark Penn, that said Obama needed his own OK City to improve his approval. Now I realize that breaks the 11th commandment, Thou shalt not use a liberals OWN words against him, but I don’t subscribe to that so it’s ok.

    And Dan, I actually believe that alot of libs do think that are intellectually superior to those on the other side. I stand by that opinion.

    No you did not not. In that specific thread — you said them as if they were your own thoughts. Don’t back-pedal because those words were indefensible. It’s called taking responsibility.

    Dronetek said:
    You’ve got to be kidding me? Can you name a single Democrat that gets the “dumb” treatment from the media that we see with EVERY SINGLE prominent Republican/right leaning figure?

    Nancy Pelosi.

  • Gasket

    Dave Noland said:
    If Megan Kelly was ugly you would never post her work. Whoever the 13 year prepubescent who keeps posting her really bad stories please give it a rest. YOu can play that fantasy out at home.

    That’s kinda true although there was no need for the name calling. I don’t think I have seen as many segments by specific “straight news” anchors from CNN or MSNBC than those done on Megyn Kelly. It seems like a “double standard” of attention to me.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Dave Noland said:
    If Megan Kelly was ugly you would never post her work. Whoever the 13 year prepubescent who keeps posting her really bad stories please give it a rest. YOu can play that fantasy out at home.

    Jesus, if there was ever a super-whine about the “other side” with no substance whatsoever, that’s it, homes, you won the biggest douchebag in the universe award. Be sure and wash your hands when your mom calls you to dinner, they’re a bit sticky.

  • Gasket

    Powerslave said:
    Well, whose fault is that? The man is a veteran U.S. Senator (elected 1998) and is the third ranking Democrat in the Senate. Bachmann is a rooky Congresswoman.

    Rookiness or seniority doesn’t matter. It’s just like Sen. DeMint. He has not been in the Senate even for 10 years but gets way more attention than veterans (like Patrick Leahy or even Inuoye) because of his bombast and mini-controversies than any other thing. Hell…let’s compare Demint to another Republican Senator, Thune. One gets waaaay more attention than the other despite both being elected to the US Senate in the same year. If Thune says something dumb or has a gaffe, it will not get the same glaring media spotlight like DeMint would. .

    Bachmann’s statements and comments are widely parsed because she loves the spotlight and actively seeks it. Same with Palin. These two women have no equivalents on the left. It’s disingenuous to establish equivalency.

  • Powerslave

    CosmosDan said:
    I don’t completely disagree with that because I’ve seen it but generalizations don’t help much.Conservatives can be condescending and superior as well. Deal with the individual. A degree from a fancy school or financial success doesn’t make people’s opinions more correct. Facts and sound reasoning is also required, a decent moral compass and maybe some common sense. Even smart informed people can think too highly of their own opinion regardless of ideology.

    Well said.

  • Powerslave

    Gasket said:
    Rookiness or seniority doesn’t matter. It’s just like Sen. DeMint. He has not been in the Senate even for 10 years but gets way more attention than veterans (like Patrick Leahy or even Inuoye) because of his bombast and mini-controversies than any other thing. Hell…let’s compare Demint to another Republican Senator, Thune. One gets waaaay more attention than the other despite both being elected to the US Senate in the same year. If Thune says something dumb or has a gaffe, it will not get the same glaring media spotlight like DeMint would. . Bachmann’s statements and comments are widely parsed because she loves the spotlight and actively seeks it. Same with Palin. These two women have no equivalents on the left. It’s disingenuous to establish equivalency.

    I disagree. The spotlight is determined by those who shine it’s light. They make the ultimate decision.

  • ndanielson

    السيد Gasket كنت كافرا ، وخداع. وآمل أن يعامل الإخوان لكم التوفيق.

    Gasket said:
    Rookiness or seniority doesn’t matter. It’s just like Sen. DeMint. He has not been in the Senate even for 10 years but gets way more attention than veterans (like Patrick Leahy or even Inuoye) because of his bombast and mini-controversies than any other thing. Hell…let’s compare Demint to another Republican Senator, Thune. One gets waaaay more attention than the other despite both being elected to the US Senate in the same year. If Thune says something dumb or has a gaffe, it will not get the same glaring media spotlight like DeMint would. .

    Bachmann’s statements and comments are widely parsed because she loves the spotlight and actively seeks it. Same with Palin. These two women have no equivalents on the left. It’s disingenuous to establish equivalency.

  • josecuervoisgood

    Gasket said:

    Bachmann’s statements and comments are widely parsed because she loves the spotlight and actively seeks it. Same with Palin. These two women have no equivalents on the left. It’s disingenuous to establish equivalency.

    You obviously have never seen Sen Schumer in action. He is a media hog of the first order. When he is not giving an interview or making some pronouncement of his own he is conveniently located behind whoever is speaking so he gets face time on camera. That said I would prefer him as leader of the Democrats in the Senate. While he is as partisan as they come, he is very intelligent unlike the current idiot leader Harry Reid.

  • Powerslave

    Powerslave said:
    I disagree. The spotlight is determined by those who shine it’s light. They make the ultimate decision.

    I’m no Palin or Bachmann fan and I’m tired of hearing about every god damned time they sneeze. A more responsible and informative media and a less sensationalized one is needed.

  • Gasket

    Powerslave said:
    I disagree. The spotlight is determined by those who shine it’s light. They make the ultimate decision.

    Media gets ratings from spotlighting conflict and highlighting outrageous demagogues and iconoclasts. I’m sorry, you will get heartier soundbites from Bachmann than Schumer. This can not be argued.

    Powerslave said:
    I’m no Palin or Bachmann fan and I’m tired of hearing about every god damned time they sneeze. A more responsible and informative media and a less sensationalized one is needed.

    Unfortunately, that’s not how media works in America. It’s about ratings — not responsibility. The more outrageous something is the more views and clicks it will get.

  • ndanielson

    Powerslave said:
    I’m no Palin or Bachmann fan and I’m tired of hearing about every god damned time they sneeze. A more responsible and informative media and a less sensationalized one is needed.

    Realizing that is half the battle.

  • Gasket

    Powerslave said:
    I’m no Palin or Bachmann fan and I’m tired of hearing about every god damned time they sneeze. A more responsible and informative media and a less sensationalized one is needed.

    BTW, I do agree with this statement.

  • ndanielson

    Gasket said:
    BTW, I do agree with this statement.

    As long as Fox News isn’t a news source, Gasket?

  • Gasket

    ndanielson said:
    As long as Fox News isn’t a news source, Gasket?

    Not at all. No problem with FNC reportage as long as they embrace and acknowledge their biases and not disabuse it’s existence.

  • Powerslave

    Gasket said:
    BTW, I do agree with this statement.

    Then you may agree with my assertion that it’s the media who decides who and what we hear about. Chuck Schumer should be a household name based on his position and importance as a legistaor. Yet as Jon Bershad claims, he isn’t as well known as Michelle Bachmann who is a relative newcomer.

  • Powerslave

    Powerslave said:
    Then you may agree with my assertion that it’s the media who decides who and what we hear about. Chuck Schumer should be a household name based on his position and importance as a legistaor. Yet as Jon Bershad claims, he isn’t as well known as Michelle Bachmann who is a relative newcomer.

    Why is this so?

  • Gasket

    Powerslave said:
    Then you may agree with my assertion that it’s the media who decides who and what we hear about. Chuck Schumer should be a household name based on his position and importance as a legistaor. Yet as Jon Bershad claims, he isn’t as well known as Michelle Bachmann who is a relative newcomer.

    I disagree with the premise. The media infrastructure is simply REACTING to it’s audience since media is fueled by ratings = money from advertising. The viewers determine. the extent of content covered. Politicians will generally get coverage since it’s the media’s JOB to report what they are doing. The antics of said politicians is what amplifies their profiles and people generally follow the most dramatic and controversial of the bunch. This is the big difference between BBC and USA media networks. Just my opinion why some politicians are “popular” than others.

  • moriarty70

    I know I’m coming in late, but what the hey. I think it all comes down to how the person reacts, Schumer corrected himself and admited to making a mistake. When Palin said “refudiate” she could have earned respect from the general public by admitting she tripped over her tongue (a common thing to happen to people). Instead she tried to tie herself to The Bard and acting like everyone was trying to trap her.

    One ends the story quick and lets it go, the other keeps fueling the story for days by acting like a victim and blaming everyone else.

  • M Colins

    moriarty70 said:
    know I’m coming in late, but what the hey. I think it all comes down to how the person reacts, Schumer corrected himself and admited to making a mistake. When Palin said “refudiate” she could have earned respect from the general public by admitting she tripped over her tongue (a common thing to happen to people). Instead she tried to tie herself to The Bard and acting like everyone was trying to trap her.

    There is a narrative that the Left follows. Happenings which appear to support it are seized upon while those which don’t are ignored. In general the Left views all conservatives as one of three things, stupid, evil or crazy. In Palin’s and Bachmann’s cases the fact they are strong accomplished women means they are targeted with extra venom. So a Palin or Bachmann misspeak is immediately taken as further proof of their imbecility and trumpeted with self congratulatory satisfaction by every Democrat, be they themselves self evidently intelligent or moronic.

    Democrats who make similar or often even identical errors are generally given a free pass because of course they are braniacs who simply have made an unimportant dismissable bobble.

    Personally I am of the opinion that Forrest Gump was right , “stupid is as stupid does”. and while I am not a Scripture guy, I do believe Matthew had it right as well “ye shall know them by their deeds”. All of these people who are supposed to be geniuses are the ones who who brought our country to bankruptcy. And the fact is both parties are up to their Adams Apples in blame for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    Where’s Tweety-Bird Matthews bellowing “balloon-head” when you really need him. Schumer’s head, however, is the size of a dirigible…!

  • X-3

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    “Megyn Kelly Probes Media’s Double Standard On Gaffes Of Bachmann And Schumer” WEAK ! Why not expose the MASSIVE lamestream socialist fake-news DOUBLE STANDARD on statements by bush vs. those by “You Lie!” hussein, who they protect at all costs. Some examples of the DOUBLE STANDARD between bush and “You Lie!”: If George Bush had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse – as “You LIe!” did – would you think him an idiot?If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a TelePrompTer installed to be able to get through a press conference,would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, the ruler of Japan, the President of China, etc, etc, etc, would you have approved?If George W.. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent “Austrian language,” would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , would you have said that he is clueless.If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in Texas , would you have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk.If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to “Cinco de Cuatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?If George W. Bush had misspelled the word “advice” would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoes as proof of what a dunce he is? So, tell me again, what is it about “You Lie!” hussein that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can’t think of anything? Don’t worry. He’s done all this in 21 months — so you’ll have two years to come up with an answer.Every bumble by “You Lie!” hussein is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

    Hell of a great post. 0bama is the only president in US history that carries photos of himself in his wallet.

  • puck30

    Gasket said:
    These two women have no equivalents on the left. It’s disingenuous to establish equivalency.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

    Don’t want to equate those two with those smarty Dems.

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