Donald Trump bankrupted 2 casinos CASINOS! Definitely don’t want this guy in charge of anything. ya fired!

Try calling your local newspaper, tell them you want to announce your new baby grandson, they will list your request, for free, just like Barack’s grandparents did way back when. They won’t ask who, what, where or when, just a simple announcemet which proves nothing other than the existence of those two annoucements.

See you in court.

Christ, Mika is a little girl. “I don’t like this”. I’m not kidding here, how old is Mika?

Well she should know, she does work for the most hateful and partisan network on cable. Oh, hey there MSNBC, who is gaining ground in Egypt, let’s see, would it be that hate filed, west hating, “non-religious”, wild and crazy guys called the Muslim Brotherhood.

Color Me Badd said:
Donald Trump bankrupted 2 casinos CASINOS! Definitely don’t want this guy in charge of anything. ya fired!

Barack is three quarters of the way to bankrupting the United States of America, so really what’s your point.

PS: Trump quickly through his business sense and considerable negotiating powers turned his situation around ( the American way ). Obama has to know what damage he is doing to us all, yet he blindly, or worse, deliberately forges ahead toward the abyss, dragging us all along with him.

Between Trump and the chump, I’ll take Trump hands down.

She is such a joke. The Donald was interviewd by Bill O’Reilly last night. Here’s the clip if anyones interested. A good interview BTW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-5u2AiJCY

Mika Brzezinski On Trump’s ‘Mean’ Birther Crusade: ‘This Promotes Hate’

So does GE’s making a $14 billion profit and paying $0 in tax.

BTW, Mika, where did you say Barry’s BC was?

Hey felixw…..what number is this? hahaha

Joe . Tell your Aunt Mika to stop rolling her eyes .

It’s mainly about Obama’s shady past and the many things he is hiding . Shifty Barry has got to come clean at some point .

Mika, how is your book on the Founding Father, Abe Lincoln, coming along?

When in doubt, throw that race card out.

LOL….I personally believe that O-Bomb-a was born in the USA. However, people have the right to question the issue since he refuses to show his original BC. Like I’ve said before, I wish he’d just release the damn thing so we can get past this.

Blondie’s right: We DO have more important things to talk about. Like ‘Jobs and our economy.’ But president Big Ears doesn’t want to talk about that. So, sweetie, Obamo is NOT talking about those ‘more important things’ himself, yet you excuse and coddle him in your own ‘kneepads’ sort of way. We’ve got you pegged, sweetie.

It’s so annoying when idiots like Mika immediately go to race. That has nothing to do with anything. If we all want to think like Mika, it would be just as appropriate to use a two-word description to describe this woman that Bill Maher recently used. But I’ll stick to the first word, which is fine: “Dumb.”

As for Obama, the more he spends $ on legal fees to show us anything but a birth certificate, the more this seemingly insignificant issue begins to seem… significant. It is provocative.

It doesn’t promote hate.

Just stupidity.

I fail to see how the birther issue promotes hate. Now $4.00 a gal for gas and no job, thats enough to ge me fired up.

The people have a right to question their elected leaders regardless of race or political party. If it’s not a big deal, just show the damn BC and lets get past this. But we should not be trying to suppress the questioning of our elected officials.

Good point Hunter. We are bombing a country, spending millions a day, that didn’t not pose a threat to the US – all without approval from the US Congress. Gas prices have sky rocketed, trillions in debt, billion in deficits…..

It’s funny to watch the left go through all of these contortions and name calling fests rather than simply say, Obama, just put it out there.

“Joe Scarborough jokes that anyone who believes Obama was not born in America must strangely also believe that in order for birth announcements to have been placed way back when in the Hawaiian newspaper,”

Joe, if it was done, it wasn’t because anyone thought Barry would become president; it was to give him American citizenship and that alone is reason enough to do so.

jacobjakeu said:
It’s so annoying when idiots like Mika immediately go to race. That has nothing to do with anything. If we all want to think like Mika, it would be just as appropriate to use a two-word description to describe this woman that Bill Maher recently used. But I’ll stick to the first word, which is fine: “Dumb.”

As for Obama, the more he spends $ on legal fees to show us anything but a birth certificate, the more this seemingly insignificant issue begins to seem… significant. It is provocative.

It’s really a fact that the Dem “playbook” is really quite thin. When trying to back up leaders and campaigns that are built on deception and word smithing, what else have they got. They are fully aware of the unpopular nature of their agenda and their true skill is in things like, “playing the race card.” Sad but true. Thanks Rush.

Mika promotes hate towards conservatives and Republicans on a daily basis.

You know, a better Mediaite story would have been on Mika not being able to explain what we’re doing in Libya after Joe asked her to explain it.

notsofast said:
It’s funny to watch the left go through all of these contortions and name calling fests rather than simply say, Obama, just put it out there.

“Joe Scarborough jokes that anyone who believes Obama was not born in America must strangely also believe that in order for birth announcements to have been placed way back when in the Hawaiian newspaper,”

Joe, if it was done, it wasn’t because anyone thought Barry would become president; it was to give him American citizenship and that alone is reason enough to do so.

the blind faith of the libs is really QUITE telling!! They know the truth!

More Liberty5 said:
The people have a right to question their elected leaders regardless of race or political party. If it’s not a big deal, just show the damn BC and lets get past this. But we should not be trying to suppress the questioning of our elected officials.

No, Mika has deemed it hate, or is it racism? Damn, I wish these lemmings would get their hyperbole straight.

Barack Must Go said:
Try calling your local newspaper, tell them you want to announce your new baby grandson, they will list your request, for free, just like Barack’s grandparents did way back when. They won’t ask who, what, where or when, just a simple announcemet which proves nothing other than the existence of those two annoucements. See you in court.

Did anyone call your local newspaper yet? Don’t you want to be the next youtube sensation by exhonorating the president?

screwauger said:
!

Totally unrelated ; Are you in the Grafton Notch area? Really amazing spot.

More Liberty5 said:
Good point Hunter. We are bombing a country, spending millions a day, that didn’t not pose a threat to the US – all without approval from the US Congress. Gas prices have sky rocketed, trillions in debt, billion in deficits…..

continues to raid medical pot shops despite claiming he would not
secret arms deal with Labian rebels
failed to close gitmo
rammed healthcare through against the will of the majority
failed to follow through on promise to give public access to legislation before signing
gas 4.00/gal
Seniors waking up across the nation
students disenchanted with jobs and college loans
gonna have to be a VERY CORRUPT ELECTION for this douche bag to get a second term…..regardless of the result, there will be massive demonstrations and violence based on how deeply he has disenchanted his base. Hang on!!

Barack Must Go said:
Try calling your local newspaper, tell them you want to announce your new baby grandson, they will list your request, for free, just like Barack’s grandparents did way back when. They won’t ask who, what, where or when, just a simple announcemet which proves nothing other than the existence of those two annoucements.

See you in court.

Hahahaha. The court of fvcking stupid birthers and rednecks. Every other court has dismissed it thus far. Including the conservative Supreme Court.

I don’t think Trump is a Birther, he just wants more audience to watch his TV show. Free marketing, free commercials, perfect business execution.

CosmosDan said:
Totally unrelated ; Are you in the Grafton Notch area? Really amazing spot.

Nice Cosmo…you betcha!

Publius219 said:
Hahahaha. The court of fvcking stupid birthers and rednecks. Every other court has dismissed it thus far. Including the conservative Supreme Court.

LOL

But you could not dispute what Barack Must Go said, son.

None of ya can.

Publius219 said:
Publius219 says:
March 31, 2011 at 10:23 am Publius219(Quote)

And when all is said and done, Barry still can’t produce his BC.

Hahahaha

@ screwauger

Don’t forget he re-signed the Patriot Act, and gave Haliburton a no-bid contract, just like Bu$h.

skyfet said:
I don’t think Trump is a Birther, he just wants more audience to watch his TV show. Free marketing, free commercials, perfect business execution.

Birther or not, fame seeking or not….wanna bet he spends bookuuu bucks supporting anyone who can realistically unseat Obowmao? Whatever his motive it’s fueled by a desire to see this Anti-American regime ousted.

Just wait until the Donald finds out that Obama SS# is from Connecticut!!!
Blonde is going to be really upset!

More Liberty5 said:
@ screwauger

Don’t forget he re-signed the Patriot Act, and gave Haliburton a no-bid contract, just like Bu$h.

don’t be a typical Lib and assume I supported Bush or any damn RINO in this country. I happen to reside in the state with the two most infamous RINO’s and “R” behind their names or not I am surprised the CIA has not been to my home given some of the venting to their offices over the past three years. So, bite me!

for F*** sake TV people, stop talking about the rich attention whore Trump and his shout out to birthers. It has the news value of “guess who farted?”

Colorado_Conservative said:
Just wait until the Donald finds out that Obama SS# is from Connecticut!!!

Isn’t Conn. the 58th state?

This woman literally turns my stomach. She’s out of her league and in over her head with her pompous, arrogant, intellectually challenged and uniformed opinion.

CosmosDan said:
for F*** sake TV people, stop talking about the rich attention whore Trump and his shout out to birthers. It has the news value of “guess who farted?”

But Barry still can’t produce a BC, now can he, son?

Birthers are just like Truthers; no amount of concrete evidence will say them. Even if he produced his ‘long form’ birth certificate, they still won’t quiet down. Why? Because it’s a back-handed way to remove him from office.

I’d be more concerned about the people he filled his Treasury Department with. Or the continuation of absurd corporate welfare.

not a trusting citizen here. Wouldn’t surprise me if the donald was a closet lib and helping Obowmao by wildly waving the left hand so O-Bomb-A can destroy the nation with his right hand.

Bobomatic said:
This woman literally turns my stomach. She’s out of her league and in over her head with her pompous, arrogant, intellectually challenged and uniformed opinion.

Some women turn heads; Mika turns stomachs.

Stephen Hogan said:
no amount of concrete evidence will say them

Supposed to say ‘no amount of concrete evidence will sate them’.

screwauger said:
Nice Cosmo…you betcha!

That’s a wicked nice area. Been there many times.

screwauger said:
Obowmao

lol Silly names.

Stephen Hogan said:
Supposed to say ‘no amount of concrete evidence will sate them’.

Ahhhhh, such as a BC?

That would be concrete evidence but he can’t produce just a simple, ordinary, everyday BC.

Other than about two dozen people on this
Mediaite comment board, insulting each other,, who knows what they
were discussing on Morning Goober??
No one watches the damn show!

notsofast said:
But Barry still can’t produce a BC, now can he, son?

You still can’t provide your High School Diploma.

Even if he produced his ‘long form’ birth certificate, they still won’t quiet down.
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Say what?

notsofast said:
But Barry still can’t produce a BC, now can he, son?

IMO, the more noise that is made about this foolishness the more it helps Obama, by making the right look more and more like conspiracy nuts. So, keep up the good work.

screwauger said:
don’t be a typical Lib and assume I supported Bush or any damn RINO in this country. I happen to reside in the state with the two most infamous RINO’s and “R” behind their names or not I am surprised the CIA has not been to my home given some of the venting to their offices over the past three years. So, bite me!

Sorry you took that as my intention. I was just adding to your list no harmful intent. I’m no liberal – just an independent with Libertarian leanings. Actually, I agree with some of what you say although I put liberals and neocons in the same category.

notsofast said:
Ahhhhh, such as a BC?

That would be concrete evidence but he can’t produce just a simple, ordinary, everyday BC.

Actually, he did. But then people started clamoring for his ‘long form’.

But, there’s no use in arguing. As I said, birthers will never be satisfied.

CosmosDan said:
IMO, the more noise that is made about this foolishness the more it helps Obama, by making the right look more and more like conspiracy nuts. So, keep up the good work.

Bottom line he went way out of his way to hide his past. Something is rotten in Chicago.

President Obama finally and quietly accepted his “transparency” award from the open government community this week — in a closed, undisclosed meeting at the White House on Monday.

The secret presentation happened almost two weeks after the White House inexplicably postponed the ceremony, which was expected to be open to the press pool.

WTF??????????????????????

jdubbleu said:
imo trump is making the correct attack by asking what is on the birth certificate that he is so anxious to hide?

Which is making the assumption that he is hiding something, even though there is no evidence that he is.

Publius219 said:
Hahahaha. The court of fvcking stupid birthers and rednecks. Every other court has dismissed it thus far. Including the conservative Supreme Court.

You might want to get got up with the facts…..No Court has “dismissed” the case….you make it sound as though Obama has won the court cases…which is simply not true.

The judges, so far, have refused to hear the case saying the person or persons making the accusations do not have “standing”.
This wimpy method is used by judges who don’t have the kahunas to make a decision and stand behind it.

It’s the same method used by wimpy Senators who don’t want their names attached to controversial votes…..instead they vote “present”…..and our wimpy community organizer used this wimpy method more than any other!!!

Thelonious Funk said:
It doesn’t promote hate.

Just stupidity.

as do your posts.

Stephen Hogan said:
Actually, he did. But then people started clamoring for his ‘long form’.

But, there’s no use in arguing. As I said, birthers will never be satisfied.

when if he submits a bogus long form guess what, the call for his legitimacy to be proven will not go away. Now, he could decide to be proud of his “heritage” and Nation and uphold the Constitution and all this might go by the wayside. Whaddaya think?

Stephen Hogan said:
Which is making the assumption that he is hiding something, even though there is no evidence that he is.

The whole point of producing the BC is to find the evidence….thats why Obama is spending millions to keep it hidden.

Here is a list of a few documents our transparent President is hiding:
1. Occidental College records
2. Columbia College records
3. Columbia Thesis paper
4. Harvard College records
5. Selective Service Registration
6. Medical records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth
11. Harvard Law Review articles published
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles
13. Record of baptism
14. Illinois State Senate records

IMHO, if President Obama’s was truly a transparent administration, and if he had been up front about who he is and what he believes during the campaign, the “birther” thing would have never come up. Instead, whenever something is brought up about President Obama, everybody around him throws up a smokescreen.
Long form birth certificate, which shows in what hospital he was born, at what time, delivered by what doctor, that has a foot print? No answer. No documentation. As I understand it, all anyone has seen is a record of live birth, a registration with the state that a baby was born to what parents, not where.
Education records? As far as I’ve read, nothing has been released. It is known that he had no money to speak of, but attended expensive schools. Who paid?
He traveled to Pakistan during the period when travel by US citizens was prohibited, by his own claim. What passport did he use? No Answer.
If he answers some questions, provides some documentation, the questions will go away. Until then, nobody who thinks about such things as his legal qualifications to be president will be satisfied exceptt his apologists and partisans.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
as do your posts.

I’m actually a huge fan of Mr. Funk. He tends to be quite witty.

screwauger said:
when if he submits a bogus long form guess what, the call for his legitimacy to be proven will not go away.

This is what I’m talking about. You are already assuming that any ‘long form’ he submits will be bogus. Thus, birthers are never satisfied.

Ok, I am going to put this into REAL simple language.

How can a person be born under the Biritsh Nationality Act of 1948 and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?

Answer: It is impossible.

Natural Born Citizenship does not and NEVER has meant being born in the United States.

It means being born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. The two are NOT the same.

Natural Born Citizen = Two citizen parents + born on our soil = Sole Jurisdiction

There is NO other nation involved with that is there?
Exactly. Sole Jurisdiction.

Now, Obama admits that he was born under the Britiah Nationality Act of 1948. He had to, his books openly admitted his father’s British Citizenship. He couldn’t very well hide that now could he?

No, he is relying on waving an irrelevant Birth Certificate – It doesn’t matter where he was born, his father was British, he was born British.

Is he also American? Most likely.

That still does not change the fact that Barack Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States and is not, was not, and never could have been a Natural Born Citizen born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States. He is now counting on Americans remaining IGNORANT of this knowledge.

The cretin is not a Natural Born Citizen.

Stephen Hogan said:
I’m actually a huge fan of Mr. Funk. He tends to be quite witty.

This is what I’m talking about. You are already assuming that any ‘long form’ he submits will be bogus. Thus, birthers are never satisfied.

Dude. I was brought up to think for myself and I do have the ability to make my own decisions. I have assumed nothing however, I have posed a hypothesis based on an educated guess. Should the document satisfy the experts and found to be “authentic” then I will begin to make my own informed decisions. You can bet I won’t repeat the caucus talking points blindly regardless of the merit or truth or motivation behind them.

Danae77 said:
Ok, I am going to put this into REAL simple language.

How can a person be born under the Biritsh Nationality Act of 1948 and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?

Answer: It is impossible.

Natural Born Citizenship does not and NEVER has meant being born in the United States.

It means being born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. The two are NOT the same.

Natural Born Citizen = Two citizen parents + born on our soil = Sole Jurisdiction

There is NO other nation involved with that is there?
Exactly. Sole Jurisdiction.

Now, Obama admits that he was born under the Britiah Nationality Act of 1948. He had to, his books openly admitted his father’s British Citizenship. He couldn’t very well hide that now could he?

No, he is relying on waving an irrelevant Birth Certificate – It doesn’t matter where he was born, his father was British, he was born British.

Is he also American? Most likely.

That still does not change the fact that Barack Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States and is not, was not, and never could have been a Natural Born Citizen born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States. He is now counting on Americans remaining IGNORANT of this knowledge.

The cretin is not a Natural Born Citizen.

And any American Citizen or elected official that blindly accepts his citizenship is simply Race-ophobic!

Colorado_Conservative said:
The whole point of producing the BC is to find the evidence….thats why Obama is spending millions to keep it hidden.

Here is a list of a few documents our transparent President is hiding:

1. Occidental College records – Not sure why this is important to determine eligibility for being President
2. Columbia College records – Not sure why this is important to determine eligibility for being President
3. Columbia Thesis paper – As with all dissertations, It’s owned by the academic institution, Columbia. You should talk to them if you want it to be released.
4. Harvard College records – Not sure why this is important to determine eligibility for being President
5. Selective Service Registration – I don’t even have a copy of that, even though I signed up.
6. Medical records – He did during the election
7. Illinois State Senate schedule – That’s a matter of public record
8. Law practice client list – I’d bring it up with his former firm, since those were technically their clients
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – I don’t even have that. It was lost in a move years ago.
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth – I don’t even have that. It was also lost in a move.
11. Harvard Law Review articles published – Look up the Law Review archives. Back-issues can be ordered from https://www.wshein.com/

12. University of Chicago scholarly articles – If he wrote some, then they still exist in academic journals. You should be able to find it with a LexisNexus or EBSCO search.

13. Record of baptism – Implying an assumption that he was baptized, which he might not have been. I wasn’t.

14. Illinois State Senate records – Matter of public record. Look it up yourself.

Danae77 said:
Ok, I am going to put this into REAL simple language.

How can a person be born under the Biritsh Nationality Act of 1948 and be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?

Answer: It is impossible.

Natural Born Citizenship does not and NEVER has meant being born in the United States.

It means being born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. The two are NOT the same.

Natural Born Citizen = Two citizen parents + born on our soil = Sole Jurisdiction

There is NO other nation involved with that is there?
Exactly. Sole Jurisdiction.

Now, Obama admits that he was born under the Britiah Nationality Act of 1948. He had to, his books openly admitted his father’s British Citizenship. He couldn’t very well hide that now could he?

No, he is relying on waving an irrelevant Birth Certificate – It doesn’t matter where he was born, his father was British, he was born British.

Is he also American? Most likely.

That still does not change the fact that Barack Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States and is not, was not, and never could have been a Natural Born Citizen born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States. He is now counting on Americans remaining IGNORANT of this knowledge.

The cretin is not a Natural Born Citizen.

Only one parent has to be an American citizen. My wife was born in the Netherlands, daughter of an American mother and a Dutch father, and she’s still a natural born citizen.

jdubbleu said:
imo trump is making the correct attack by asking what is on the birth certificate that he is so anxious to hide?

IMO, he’s just a loud mouth seeking attention for something he’s promoting or will be promoting. He learned it from Vince McMahon. Tom Pawlenty was smart enough to put this issue behind him right up front. Then moves on to talk plainly and intelligently about the real serious issues facing this country. IMO, that kind of talk is far more appealing to the independents needing to win an election than this nonsense.

jdubbleu said:
many people have asked for his birth certificate, he hasn’t produced it. i found something that may help you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hide

And yet, you failed to read the definition yourself. Do you have evidence that he’s actively trying to conceal the document? If not, then you’re assuming that he’s hiding something.

Many people can ask for my driver’s license and I can refuse to produce it. That does not mean that I’m hiding it.

Stephen Hogan said:
Only one parent has to be an American citizen. My wife was born in the Netherlands, daughter of an American mother and a Dutch father, and she’s still a natural born citizen.

I’m not sure that’s true. Citizen for sure, but I think natural born means born within the US, unless your parent is an ambassador, or in the military.

CosmosDan said:
I’m not sure that’s true. Citizen for sure, but I think natural born means born within the US, unless your parent is an ambassador, or in the military.

Fair enough. I’ll look into it. But, she does have natural born status, one way or another.

As if MSNBC didn’t know anything about hate. Then again, in MSNBC’s upside world telling the truth is hateful while telling lies and calling people names isn’t.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Danae77 said:
Natural Born Citizen = Two citizen parents + born on our soil = Sole Jurisdiction

Can you explain and/or link to the legal foundation for this assertion? I believe you are mistaken.

A good reason might be why he does not release his birth certificate is because it says Muslim under religion.
He was born here but there is something else he is hiding.

jdubbleu said:
are you really this retarded or are you just trolling?

Interesting that you should ask that. Tell me, what do you think?

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ~ Obama

Stephen Hogan said:
Only one parent has to be an American citizen. My wife was born in the Netherlands, daughter of an American mother and a Dutch father, and she’s still a natural born citizen.

No Stephan, she isn’t.

IS she a citizen, YES.

Is she a Natural Born Citizen born under the sole jurisdiction of the United States? No, she isn’t. Not only was she NOT born on our soil, she did not have two parents who were citizens at the time of her birth.

She was born under more than one jurisdiction. Sorry bub, but that is precisely how its determined, your ignorance of this fact is not relevant. This is precisely how the State Department would view it as well.

If you and she had children born in the United States, your Children ARE Natural Born Citizens. However your wife is NOT. She IS a Citizen, but not a Natural Born Citizen.

CosmosDan said:
Can you explain and/or link to the legal foundation for this assertion? I believe you are mistaken.

Sure I can. Here is the publication of the actual research and the link to it:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/the-state-department-has-always-recognized-and-abided-by-foreign-laws-concerning-us-citizens-born-with-dual-nationality/

The State Department Has “Always” Recognized And Abided By Foreign Laws Concerning US Citizens Born With Dual Nationality.

Those who argue that the United States has no obligation to recognize and respect dual nationality – as to American citizens – have been unequivocally proved wrong by official correspondence between former Secretary of State Robert Lansing (who served from 1905-1920) and former Senator Henry Cabot Lodge. 
The opinion of the State department was published in The American Journal of International Law, Volume 9.  We shall begin with the factual background to this official inquiry:

“MY DEAR SENATOR LODGE:  I have received your letter of June 5, 1915, in reply to my letter of June 2, concerning the detention in Italy for military service of Ugo Da Prato, who was born in Boston, August 25, 1895, and went to Italy in 1912 to study architecture, and whose father, Antonio Da Prato, a native of Italy, obtained naturalization, as a citizen of this country in the District Court of the United States at Boston, March 19, 1892; that is, before the son’s birth…
As Ugo Da Prato was born in this country after his father had obtained naturalization as a citizen of the United States, it does not appear that he can be considered an Italian subject under Italian law, and I have no doubt he will be released.”

Please take notice of two crucial facts.  First, the State Department was particularly concerned that the father had naturalized before the son was born.  Second, the State Department also took official notice of the nationality laws of Italy as a determining factor.  Such recognition is necessary for many reasons, the least of which is the avoidance of diplomatic conflicts.

The correspondence between Lansing and Lodge provides a textbook example perfectly tailored to educate our nation on this issue.
In that correspondence (which I encourage you to read in full), Lansing refers to Article 11 of the Italian Civil Code.  Article 11 stated that Italian subjects who naturalize in a foreign nation forfeit Italian citizenship.
Lansing’s correspondence also considers Article 12 which demanded that all former Italian citizens – who forfeited citizenship under Article 11 – were still required to serve in the Italian military.
As to Article 12, Lansing informed Lodge it would not be applicable to the son, since the son had been born after the father had naturalized in America.  Therefore, according to Italian law, the son had never been an Italian citizen, so Italy could not claim him.

Lansing stressed that the son had been born after the father naturalized as a US citizen.  Had the son been born before the father was naturalized, Italian law would have required the son to serve in the military.  But since the son was born to a US Citizen in the US, Lansing assured Lodge of the son’s eventual release from custody.
Lansing’s confidence that the son would be released from custody is based upon his undeniable status as a natural born citizen of the US, whereas persons born to alien fathers in the US are susceptible to such custody by foreign nations.  In my opinion, which I believe to be the same as the framers, no person deemed by the US State Department to owe direct allegiance to another nation should ever be eligible to the office of President.
As Secretary Lansing’s letter clearly indicates, had the son been born before his father naturalized, Italy could require him to serve in the military (and bear arms against the US).   And there would have been nothing the US could do about it.  This is a perfect example of why the US Commander In Chief should never have possessed dual allegiance.  Such a state of affairs is completely unnatural to allegiance and to the oath of office.

Chester Arthur’s father was naturalized fourteen years after Chester was born.  Therefore, Arthur would have been officially recognized as a British subject by the State Department had they known of this fact.
Obama’s father never became, or even applied for, US citizenship.  Furthermore, Obama has admitted that his birth status was “governed by” the laws of the United Kingdom.  Therefore, both Obama and Arthur, at the time of their births, according to the State Department, owed dual allegiance to the US and to the British monarch.
THE DISEASE OF DUAL ALLEGIANCE
Both Obama and Arthur owed allegiance to the British monarchy at the time of their births.  Recognition and respect for that allegiance has always been the official policy of the US State Department.  But Senator Lodge was not aware of that policy.  He was in a misguided state of disbelief that any person could have dual nationality.  Here is what Lodge wrote to Secretary Lansing:

“I note what you say in regard to the Italian law which obviously does not apply to young Da Prato, but, speaking generally I can not assent for a moment to the proposition that such a thing as dual citizenship is possible.  As you well know, we constituted ourselves as champions against the doctrine of indefeasible allegiance and have succeeded in compelling the acceptance of our view by all the nations with the exception, I think, of Russia and Turkey.  The abandonment of indefeasible allegiance is in itself the establishment of the principle that there can be no such thing as dual citizenship, either in whole or in part, and to attempt to retain the right over a boy, born in this country of parents not naturalized– which is not the case with Da Prato– for military service in the country of origin of the parents is absurd on its face and is something to which we should never assent for a moment…
Italy *  *  *  has no possible claim on the children of Italian parents, not naturalized, born in this country, especially if they have exercised all the rights of citizenship as they are entitled to do under the 14th amendment to the Constitution.  Such a child has never been an Italian subject for one minute.  Italy has no more claim on him than she has on one of my children or one of yours…”

Secretary Lansing then clearly and cogently explained that Senator Lodge’s thoughts were legally misguided:

“As this general subject has been the cause of considerable comment I venture to discuss the matter at some length.
Dual nationality is not a theory or doctrine promulgated by the Department, but is the unavoidable result of the conflicting laws of different countries… The status of a person who is born a citizen of one country under the jus soli and a citizen of another country under the jus sanguinis is commonly termed dual nationality.  Whether or not this term is considered apt, the fact remains that many persons are born citizens or subjects of two countries under their respective laws…

…Also, a person born in the United States of Italian parents is born a citizen of the United States under the law of this country, and a subject of Italy under the law of Italy.  The fact of dual nationality has been recognized by the Department for many years.  Secretary of State Fish in a report to the President dated August 25, 1875, said:
‘…Such children are born to a double character.  The citizenship of the father is that of the child so far as the laws of the country of which the father is a citizen are concerned and within the jurisdiction of that country; but the child, from the circumstances of his birth, may acquire rights and owes another fealty besides that which attaches to the father.  (Moore’s International Law Digest, Volume III, page 520.)’

…I desire further to call your attention to the following statement in the report of the citizenship board which was appointed during the administration of President Roosevelt… which report was forwarded to the Speaker of the House of Representatives by Secretary of State Elihu Root, with a letter of approval and commendation dated December 18 1906:

‘Inasmuch as our Government declares that all persons born in the United States are citizens of the United States, and also recognizes, as well as adopts, on its own part, the rule that children of citizens resident abroad are citizens of the country to which the parents owe allegiance there arises as will be seen a conflict of citizenship spoken of usually as dual allegiance.  House Document No. 326, 59th Congress, 2d session, page 74.’ “

Lansing slams the point home – which is agreed upon by the three former Secretaries of State – that the true problem is dual allegiance (aka “dual fealty”).
For such a condition to exist as to the Commander In Chief of the US Armed Forces is total blasphemy to the oath of office required of the President.  Such a condition is certainly not natural to the concept of allegiance.
But most important in quashing the favored argument of Obama ineligibility denialists is the statement by Secretary Root which confirms that – not only does the US recognize dual nationality – we have “adopted” it as the law of our own country.

Furthermore, Lansing felt it necessary to stress again the crucial importance of whether the child was born after naturalization of the father:

“For the reasons mentioned above, it is obviously important for the Department in dealing with the case of a person who was born in this country and had a father of Italian birth, to ascertain whether his father had previously acquired naturalization as a citizen of the United States.  This is especially important when it is a case, such as that which you have presented, of a person who has not yet reached his majority.”

Because the United States has adopted the position that we shall abide by foreign nationality laws as to persons born with dual allegiance, such a person may be apprehended in a foreign country and forced to bear arms against the US.  And there is nothing the US can do, from a diplomatic stand point, to force that person’s release.
Furthermore, no such person should ever desire to be President, especially if that person is a Constitutional scholar.  It should be obvious to such a person that they would be submitting the nation to a Constitutional crisis.  A true statesman would spare the nation such a debacle and perhaps be happy to serve his country as a Senator.

In conclusion, I shall reiterate that the US State Department has “always” recognized dual allegiance and has “adopted” it under law.  Anyone who argues otherwise is either ignorant or lying.
 
by Leo Donofrio, Esq.  (…with a big hat tip to my research team on this one.)
Pidgeon & Donofrio GP

jdubbleu said:
hmmm let’s just say, in your case “downy” doesn’t mean fabric softener…

You are a real piece of work, jdubbleu.

Screwauger said:
“don’t be a typical Lib and assume I supported Bush or any damn RINO in this country. I happen to reside in the state with the two most infamous RINO’s and “R” behind their names or not I am surprised the CIA has not been to my home given some of the venting to their offices over the past three years. So, bite me!”

Not my intention. I was just adding to the list. Oh and I am a far cry from a liberal. I’m an independent/ Libertarian so i usually put liberals and neocons in the same category. Actually, I agree with what you say many times.

Hate? This Mika is dumb as a stump. It could prove Trupm a fool, or BO a lying scumbag, but hate? I just dont see it.

So now it’s “mean” in Liberal land to provide the proper documents required by the Constitution to be POTUS…good grief…liberalism and political correctness is destroying this Country!!

Mika is a member of an elite traitorous insurgency. She has no response to why Obama has spent millions keeping his birth certificate hidden. She ignores the uselessness of the COLB as even useful in attaining a drivers license, a entry onto a soccer team, to receive a security clearance, or to become an American soldier…let alone attain a certified birth certificate, and become President of the United States. She, and her fellow intelligencia purposely deny the American people as answer regarding O’s Connecticut SS#, his confirmed fraud over his Columbia years, his passport mystery leading to the death of a young “black” Naval officer. No explanation to the people why dozens of articles domestically, and overseas identified Obama as being from “Kenya,” prior to the 08′ election, and since. She insults tens of millions of Americans who know how to read, to think, and have spent untold hours analyizing the information available. Mika, and her gonadless co-hosts are moral, and intellectual cowards who have done everything they could before the election, and since then to scam the American voter. She and her fellow traitors are in denial. Everyone knows now what has been done in the name of their utopianistic, irrational, progressive, socialist coup.. Every one in the country, and in the world who has seriously investigated this “conspiracy” vomit moral indigation when she, and the likes of her even open their mouths. Jouralistic cowards. Prison is not sufficient.

Stephen Hogan said:
Actually, he did. But then people started clamoring for his ‘long form’.

Ahhhhhh, the “long form” would be his BC.

Nice try- but the Harvard educated barry, can’t produce that simple document, nor can he explain why he has a SS# registered to the state of Connecticut, nor did he produce his medical records, instead having his doctor release a one page summary of his health.

Ha!

skyfet said:
You still can’t provide your High School Diploma.

You can’t prove you are a human being, son, nor that you have a brain stem.

Stephen Hogan said:
Which is making the assumption that he is hiding something, even though there is no evidence that he is.

And OJ Simpson wasn’t trying to get away…just going to the 7-11 for a Pepsi.

LibertySister said:
A good reason might be why he does not release his birth certificate is because it says Muslim under religion.
He was born here but there is something else he is hiding.

It lists his sex as female.

More Liberty5 said:
Sorry you took that as my intention. I was just adding to your list no harmful intent. I’m no liberal – just an independent with Libertarian leanings. Actually, I agree with some of what you say although I put liberals and neocons in the same category.

My mistake. Misunderstood. Seems like a sensible place to be. Good day!

Steve_27 said:
Hate? This Mika is dumb as a stump. It could prove Trupm a fool, or BO a lying scumbag, but hate? I just dont see it.

She probably just meant racist.

ndanielson said:
It lists his sex as female.

Caucasian with odd skin coloration.

Yes, it does, Mika, and it’s basically the Nixon/Raygun Southern Strategy G4. If those in the media demonize African American leaders, people will become comfortable with their own prejudices. And, you can’t argue with the effectiveness, to which witness the Tea Party.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Yes, it does, Mika, and it’s basically the Nixon/Raygun Southern Strategy G4. If those in the media demonize African American leaders, people will become comfortable with their own prejudices. And, you can’t argue with the effectiveness, to which witness the Tea Party.

Witness the rabid Sarah Palin bashers, TexasTroll.

Mika does a great job of mouthing the talking points she’s been instructed to say.

Jim Treacher said:
Mika does a great job of mouthing the talking points she’s been instructed to say.

She must have missed Schumer’s extremist memo.

Don’t you just love the hypocrisy and inconsistency of the MSNBC panel discussing Trump? They spend months ignoring the real economy-driven issues of the Tea Party reducing its members to a bunch of birthers and racists… then, when Trump (foolishly or not) brings up the birh issue, they look on with disgust and say “why can’t we get to the real issues like the economy?”

Trump believes that he has hair.

· An Email sent to Bill O’Reilly after the Trump interview on March 30th:
TO BILL O’REILLY:

This will be the last time we email you and the last night that we watch your show, Mr. O’Reilly. (We have watched you for many, many years).

Your unbelievably smug, arrogant and wildly disrespectful treatment of Donald Trump was DESPICABLE. Who the HELL do you think you are??? You not only INSULTED Trump but you insult us too — the listeners!!! We are highly educated people — more educated than you are!! This is NOT Journalism!! The more you IGNORE the birth certificate issue, the more foolish and laughable you become. You also look JEALOUS of Mr. Trump – but that is understandable – you being a fading commentator who is having a tough time keeping up with the likes of Beck and Hannity. You have NO PROOF, NO FACTS and NO UNDERSTANDING of the U.S. CONSTITUTION!!! If you did, you would know that Obama is INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. Just so you know something: Obama put a forged Certification of Live Birth online. It was proven to be forged. It was NOT certified, not verified, not real. He has NEVER produced his U.S. Long Form Birth Certificate, like Mr. Trump produced.

Obama will ultimately pay for all his lies. Just wait for it…….Congress has been alerted to this matter and each member was mailed a copy of Obama’s KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE, that was obtained and certified at the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya last year. They are working on it. So, you will look like the real FOOL when this breaks…..

If you place SO much importance on two, 50 year old suspicious newspaper ads, (what a JOKE) then why not turn your limited attention to the Texas based Newspaper ARTICLES on Obama BEFORE the 2008 Election — only a FEW YEARS ago — that definitively state that Obama was “KENYAN BORN” in their HEADLINES!!! I believe the newspaper in question is called “The Observer” — an African newspaper based in Dallas, Texas. ( By the way Mr. Trump is CORRECT in saying that NOBODY places baby postings in newspapers — and you were WRONG to say that people do this — they do not!) In addition, the KENYA NATIONAL ASSEMBLY stated in their minutes (this is like their Congress or Parliament) that Obama was “BORN IN KENYA”. They should know. Even the Kenyan Ambassador stated for the record that Obama’s birth place in Kenya is a “national attraction”. How can you be so ignorant on this subject???????????????????? It is baffling — or you are just worrying about your fading ratings………….

You are not a real journalist — you have no respect for others — you constantly interrupt — you should be off the air.

Trump just wants the facts on the birth certificate — everyone does!! Just go look at the voting on the FOX news web site — 75% of people AGREE that Trump was RIGHT to bring it up!! We ALL want the Truth — apparently you don’t.

I could go on and on — why don’t you read a book SPECIFICALLY on this subject — by experienced attorneys — “Obama – Ineligible To Serve – Lies, Crimes and Deadly Ambition” at Amazon. THEN see what you think you believe…………………………………….

good bye O’Reilly

P.S. WE WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP IN A HEARTBEAT FOR PRESIDENT.

You looney moonbats with your nonsense about Obama’s birthcertificate , are examples of what is wrong with this country today. TOOO MANY idiots.

First of all—WHERE do yu get off saying Obama did not release his birthcertificate??? He most CERTAINLY did. Plus, Factcheck.org has a great number of pictures of the sealed certificate on their website !!!
And if you freaks are talking about that little souvenir that some Hospitals still give out, with the cutie little feetie, etc on it—-that is not even legal ! You cannot use that to get your passport, or apply for anything!!!

Are you really all this dumb, or does your racist hatred just make your mind go mental?

Trump should just save his money ! WHO wants a President of this country, leader of the Free World, who has a comb-over? Does he not realize how stupid looking that is?

God must love stupid people—he made so many of you !

PBerg said:
God must love stupid people—he made so many of you !

0bama loves stupid people. He relies on so many of you.

Danae77 said:
In conclusion, I shall reiterate that the US State Department has “always” recognized dual allegiance and has “adopted” it under law.  Anyone who argues otherwise is either ignorant or lying.

It’s at least an interesting and reasonable argument. Ultimately it is an opinion that has no legally binding precedent, which is technically what I asked for.

The idea that Obama owes some foreign allegiance to great Britain because of his father’s citizenship {the father he barely knew} is a technical one at best. Not very realistic that his allegiance is actually torn in any way , but far more of a reasonable argument than any I’ve read to date. Just not one that is legally binding.

It’s a complete waste of time and effort to continue to make ineligibly arguments two years into his presidency other than as an mildly interesting exercise. He will be reelected or not , period.

Trump needs to put his money where his mouth is: send a team of expert investigators to kenya to find the mud hut where “You Lie!” hussein’s original birth certificate is hidden. Of course, there will need to be considerably money used for bribes to track down the right hut. Trump can certainly afford such an undertaking, so just do it. All America will benefit from having that document exposed.

Always great to see Mika & Joe whine about hate while completely ignoring their own network.

Danae77 says:
March 31, 2011 at 11:43 am

You are kidding, right? Don O. Fritos? You want to hang your hat on him? The Poster Boy for Mental Disease or Defect? You’re aware oh his complete meltdown? Correct?

The promotion of ignorance and hate is an MSNBC speciality.

Stephen Hogan said:
Many people can ask for my driver’s license and I can refuse to produce it. That does not mean that I’m hiding it.

? What happens if Police ask for identification and you refuse?

And Mika promotes stupidity big time!

PBerg said:
WHO wants a President of this country, leader of the Free World, who has a comb-over?

Yep, God must love stupid people. LMAO!

PBerg said:
He most CERTAINLY did.

Not all your lying will make that true, son and you know it.

PBerg said:
WHO wants a President of this country, leader of the Free World, who has a comb-over?

Better than the foreigner we have now, son.

Tell you what. Go apply for a U.S. Passport and see what they will and won’t accept in the way of a birth certificate or a certificate of live birth. Let’ just say Joe Schlump has to prove more than the guy sitting in the White House. Just saying.

Stupidity, thy name is Mika.

Isn’t America grand? Nowhere else can you be gainfully employed simply for being a piece of ass.

If Mika’s last name were Smith or Jones, she would not be there.

Uh oh, I read that Donald is now dropping the M word…..he is gonna drive the lefty media right off the cliff.

it is just too funny to watch them defend hehimself, after years of hounding W for non-existent documents to the point where Dan Rather made them up, falsifieid government documents, and then defended his own actions.

But for he himself, the one and only Obamasiah, if he says it is so, it is and that is the end of the story.

So funny to watch.

Penguin60 said:
? What happens if Police ask for identification and you refuse?

You’re taking my analogy too literally.

And I can absolutely refuse to show my identification, unless I’m driving or am a suspect in a crime.

Stephen Hogan said:
You’re taking my analogy too literally.

And I can absolutely refuse to show my identification, unless I’m driving or am a suspect in a crime.

And what better people to have in office, MAKING LAWS? Ones with hidden pasts. Yes, liberals know how to pick ‘em.

PBerg said:
You looney moonbats with your nonsense about Obama’s birthcertificate , are examples of what is wrong with this country today. TOOO MANY idiots. First of all—WHERE do yu get off saying Obama did not release his birthcertificate??? He most CERTAINLY did. Plus, Factcheck.org has a great number of pictures of the sealed certificate on their website !!!And if you freaks are talking about that little souvenir that some Hospitals still give out, with the cutie little feetie, etc on it—-that is not even legal ! You cannot use that to get your passport, or apply for anything!!! Are you really all this dumb, or does your racist hatred just make your mind go mental? Trump should just save his money ! WHO wants a President of this country, leader of the Free World, who has a comb-over? Does he not realize how stupid looking that is? God must love stupid people—he made so many of you !

You are going to have to include yourself in the stupid category.

It isn’t about race.

It isn’t even about Obama’s birth certificate. You see, it is irrelevant.

Obama was born most likely in Hawaii. He was born here an American citizen. AT THE SAME TIME he was born the son of a British Subject. He was therefore ALSO born a British Subject. Children get their parents citizenship. No one says that isn’t true, only a complete idiot would say that.

So, Obama was born American, and he was born British. He admits this. He published the fact himself in his books and on the internet.

Obama was born under the jurisdiction of the United States, and at the same time, IN EQUAL MEASURE he was born subject to the British Nationality act of 1948 – a British Subject. This is not my accusation. This is what Obama says. He was born an American, and a British subject. Obama was born under TWO Jurisdictions. That doesn’t make him any less an American. Nor does it make him any less a Brit. He is both.

A Natural Born Citizen is one who is born under ONE Jurisdiction. That is the meaning of the term Natural Born. This is determined at birth, and is a description OF birth. This child was born with brown eyes, curly hair, THIS footprint, to an American Mother and a British father in Honolulu Hawaii on Aug. 4th, 1961. This child was born under two jurisdictions, that of America and Great Britain. This child is a citizen of both nations at his birth. This child is not a Natural Born Citizen, subject to the sole jurisdiction of only the United States because this child was born a British Subject inheriting the citizenship of his father.

Natural Born Citizenship is a description – it is a condition of birth.

People are confusing the description of a person’s birth with being a Citizen of the United States. They are two VERY different things. Obama IS a citizen. but he was NOT a citizen of ONLY the United States when he was born, and furthermore he could not KEEP that status all his life by virtue of the fact he never had it. You see, you must STAY a Natural Born Citizen ALL YOUR LIFE in order to qualify for POTUS at the age of 35 after having lived in the USA for at least 14 years previous to running for the office.

Natural Born Citizen of the United States means being born with ONLY the citizenship of the United States. If born in a foreign country, then you can claim that Nation’s citizenship just like Mexican Anchor Babies do every day. If your father is a German and you were born in New York to an American Mom, you can claim German citizenship anytime in your lifetime. That doesn’t mean you are any less than an American, you just have more than one OPTION. A Natural Born Citizen HAS NO OTHER OPTIONS.

Obama is waving his birth certificate around like a matador waves a red cape to a bull, to keep your attention focused on IT, and not the sword held in the other hand.

The sword in this case is the MEANING of Natural Born Citizen – and once that is commonly KNOWN about Obama, he will either resign, or be arrested. The man is an Usurper, he was NEVER qualified for the office he occupies.

It isn’[t rocket science people. It is very simple.

Natural Born Citizen = Person born under the sold jurisdiction of only one Nation = two citizen parents + born on the soil of their nation.

Obama was born under the jurisdiction of TWO nations. He is not, never was, never could have been a Natural Born Citizen.

Seeking a truthful answer/proof promotes hate? Yeah, from those who know how high the stakes may be…

Scarborough states “there are more important things to talk about” yes! I agree there is, so if Obama had the best interest of the nation at heart and wanted to, you know, Move On… then why not release all his transcripts, verify is real IQ, give us the long from birth certificate, etc etc show us editorials from the Harvard Review or for that matter any documents, maybe some legislation he wrote as a Senator (not one he added his name to, or accidentally shredded) after all he was, is (?) an expert in Constitutional Law right????

Journalist from all types of publications (conservatives, liberal, foreign) have asked for, sued, and sought this basic information applying the Freedom of Information Act among other things, and yet Obama employees lawyers to fight all attempts to release the ANY documentation. If he wants the dialogue to end, then stop blocking the path to transparency.

ndanielson said:
And what better people to have in office, MAKING LAWS? Ones with hidden pasts. Yes, liberals know how to pick ‘em.

Obama is the President. He doesn’t make laws; he enforces them.

Stephen Hogan said:
Obama is the President. He doesn’t make laws; he enforces them.

well some laws he will enforce

mlb said:
If he wants the dialogue to end, then stop blocking the path to transparency.

He just received an award. For transparency. Behind closed doors. Wow. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/obama-finally-accepts-his-transparency-award-behind-closed-doors/2011/03/31/AFRplO9B_blog.html

And did you hear that 0bama’s justice dept. just cleared 0bama’s justice dept. of any wrong doing in the voter intimidation case?

cjd ohio 1 said:
well some laws he will enforce

And what laws doesn’t he enforce?

Stephen Hogan said:
Obama is the President. He doesn’t make laws; he enforces them.

Our legislators make laws. At least they are SUPPOSED TO, as opposed to JUDGES. We should know a little about them, don’t you think?

Stephen Hogan said:
And what laws doesn’t he enforce?

DOMA

Stephen Hogan said:
And what laws doesn’t he enforce?

A FL judge ordered him to lift a drilling moratorium months ago. How about that one? How about the voter intimidation laws in this country? DOMA, federal immigration laws?

Mika promotes stupidity.

Danae77 said:

Natural Born Citizenship is a description – it is a condition of birth.

People are confusing the description of a person’s birth with being a Citizen of the United States. They are two VERY different things. Obama IS a citizen. but he was NOT a citizen of ONLY the United States when he was born, and furthermore he could not KEEP that status all his life by virtue of the fact he never had it. You see, you must STAY a Natural Born Citizen ALL YOUR LIFE in order to qualify for POTUS at the age of 35 after having lived in the USA for at least 14 years previous to running for the office.

It isn’[t rocket science people. It is very simple.

Natural Born Citizen = Person born under the sold jurisdiction of only one Nation = two citizen parents + born on the soil of their nation.

Well then, according to your simple/non-rocket-science logic: 1) Ronald Reagan was also an illegitimate president, since his father was born in Ireland; and 2) Trump can’t run, since his mother was born in Scotland. Now, I realize that Ireland and Scotland are not scary countries like deepest, darkest Africa, still, they aren’t the good ol’ U.S. of A.!

Speaking of Reagan, you do know that he was born in Ireland. (I know this for a fact because I received several breathless emails that said so.) If Trump were even half as bright as he constantly tells us, he would have studied this issue carefully before mouthing off. (Of course, mouthing off is pretty much what Trump does!)

Among the many stupid things the man has recently said in support of his birther claim are:
a) The Hawaiʻi newspaper postings about the president’s birth may be fakes.

b) How could poor people like M/M Obama afford to have the birth announcements placed in the Hawaii newspapers?

c) The governor of Hawaii (Neil Abercrombie) should be investigated for lying when he said that he knew the Obamas personally and that he recalls very vividly them bringing their new baby boy to certain events. Trump said that the governor is a Democrat and is only saying those things to protect the president and his party.

Well, I was born and raised in Honolulu, and here are some facts:

1. Back then (1961) there were two prominent daily newspapers on Oʻahu: The Honolulu Advertiser (morning), and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin (evening). Like many newspapers around the country, ALL births, deaths, etc. were published in both papers. You did not have to pay to have them published. They were a matter of public record, and the newspapers published them as a public service.

2. Before Governor Abercrombie went into politics, he received both his masters and doctorate at the University of Hawaiʻi – Manoa, the very same university that M/M Obama attended. That’s how the governor knew them.

3. When this whole stupid issue started to heat up during the presidential election, Linda Lingle, the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaiʻi at the time, went to the state health department herself to view the presidentʻs original birth certificate, and stated publicly that it was authentic.

4. Here’s a good summary of all this nonsense from FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, Trump’s own alma mater (well, at least he claims that he went to Wharton): http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/the-obama-birth-chronicles-chapter-ccxcviii/
(Although Trump, like most conspiracy nuts, will probably dismiss this organization as well, and question its stated non-partisanship.)

5. My own State of Hawaiʻi Certificate of Live Birth is similar to the presidentʻs in all respects, except, of course, for the vitals (name, DOB, etc.).

One final point. Trump is a buffoon, we all know that. But why do people like Gingrich, Huckabee, and others who claim to want to be taken seriously, indulge in all of that other birther related nonsense about Obama’s “Kenyan worldview”? What Kenyan worldview? His father, who was born in Kenya, divorced his Kansas born wife and left his son when the prez was only two. He only returned years later, when the boy was ten, and then visited him only once. How much “Kenyan influence” was that supposed to have imparted on the child? It seems to me that the most influential person in the prezʻs life was probably his white grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, with whom he lived for several years. My father knew her, and by all accounts she was a very strong, determined woman who started her career at First Hawaiian Bank as a secretary, and rose up through the ranks to eventually become a VP, the first female bank VP in the state.

The GOP used to call themselves the party of ideas. William F. Buckley must be turning over in his grave.

ChrisNH said:
Blondie’s right: We DO have more important things to talk about. Like ‘Jobs and our economy.’ But president Big Ears doesn’t want to talk about that. So, sweetie, Obamo is NOT talking about those ‘more important things’ himself, yet you excuse and coddle him in your own ‘kneepads’ sort of way. We’ve got you pegged, sweetie.

I don’t think Obama would be interested in Mika in kneepads. Donnie Deutsch? Perhaps more his speed.

First, I am not a “birther. I don’t know WHY Obama goes to such extraneous lengths to keep his Long Form Birth Certificate (LFBC) out of the public eye. But I do know when someone is trying to hide something.

When someone is trying to hide something, usually it’s not a fact that myself and others have to dig up from research. The “hider” will tell us he’s trying to hide something. This is most often way of things.

Neither do I understand why he goes to such extraordinary lengths to keep so many other documents hidden. We do realize, yes, that many of these other documents that he has locked away are relevant and should be open to the work of presidential and other historians?

But let’s just put these other documents aside for a moment and concentrate on his LFBC…

A man spends a fortune in legal fees because he does not want his LFBC disclosed. Then his supporters say he has nothing to hide and people like me are all loony tunes.

This is logic?

Again, I am not a “birther.” I tend to think he was born in Hawaii. But he is hiding something that he doesn’t want anyone to see and this is an indisputable reality that Obama’s own ongoing actions are resolutely demonstrating.

As for all of the many other documents, many related to his scholastic records, why is he hiding them from the public eye? Again, his defenders will say that he has nothing to hide. This is their defense.

I want to share a very simple, undisputable piece of logic with everyone: when a person puts out an effort to hide something – that means that they have something to hide.

See, that wasn’t too hard.

Or was it?

cjd ohio 1 said:
DOMA

He said that his administration wouldn’t ‘defend’ DOMA, which means something completely different than ‘enforce’. When he says that he will not ‘defend’ a law, it means that his administration will not defend it from legal challenges. They will still enforce it, it’s just much easier to strike the law down judicially.

It’s an easy thing to confused.

Stephen Hogan said:
He said that his administration wouldn’t ‘defend’ DOMA, which means something completely different than ‘enforce’. When he says that he will not ‘defend’ a law, it means that his administration will not defend it from legal challenges. They will still enforce it, it’s just much easier to strike the law down judicially. It’s an easy thing to confused.

word play, that is all it is, twist it how you want to………..and myself i am not in favor of DOMA, but it is the law of the land

ndanielson said:
A FL judge ordered him to lift a drilling moratorium months ago. How about that one? How about the voter intimidation laws in this country? DOMA, federal immigration laws?

I won’t defend the Black Panther case because I do see some political involvement, and he does need to follow that court order in regards to the moratorium, but Obama has enforced federal immigration law. In fact, he has more boots on the border than any president before him. Just because he can’t keep illegal immigrants out does not mean he’s not enforcing the laws. And he’s continuing to enforce DOMA, he just won’t defend it.

cjd ohio 1 said:
word play, that is all it is, twist it how you want to………..and myself i am not in favor of DOMA, but it is the law of the land

That’s not word play. That’s the difference in the legal definition between ‘defend’ and ‘enforce’. Seriously, look it up.

Stephen Hogan said:
Obama is the President. He doesn’t make laws; he enforces them.

Wrong, the POTUS signs laws into effect. In essence the laws do not exist until the POTUS signs them. Obama is an usurper and thus everything he has signed is illegal, does not have the force of law.

According to the consititution, when a POTUS has been shown to have failed to qualify, that man should be removed immediately and replaced with the sitting Vice President. This should be done immediately.

writernotabene said:
Well then, according to your simple/non-rocket-science logic: 1) Ronald Reagan was also an illegitimate president, since his father was born in Ireland; and 2) Trump can’t run, since his mother was born in Scotland. Now, I realize that Ireland and Scotland are not scary countries like deepest, darkest Africa, still, they aren’t the good ol’ U.S. of A.! Speaking of Reagan, you do know that he was born in Ireland. (I know this for a fact because I received several breathless emails that said so.) If Trump were even half as bright as he constantly tells us, he would have studied this issue carefully before mouthing off. (Of course, mouthing off is pretty much what Trump does!) Among the many stupid things the man has recently said in support of his birther claim are:a) The Hawaiʻi newspaper postings about the president’s birth may be fakes.
b) How could poor people like M/M Obama afford to have the birth announcements placed in the Hawaii newspapers?
c) The governor of Hawaii (Neil Abercrombie) should be investigated for lying when he said that he knew the Obamas personally and that he recalls very vividly them bringing their new baby boy to certain events. Trump said that the governor is a Democrat and is only saying those things to protect the president and his party. Well, I was born and raised in Honolulu, and here are some facts: 1. Back then (1961) there were two prominent daily newspapers on Oʻahu: The Honolulu Advertiser (morning), and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin (evening). Like many newspapers around the country, ALL births, deaths, etc. were published in both papers. You did not have to pay to have them published. They were a matter of public record, and the newspapers published them as a public service. 2. Before Governor Abercrombie went into politics, he received both his masters and doctorate at the University of Hawaiʻi – Manoa, the very same university that M/M Obama attended. That’s how the governor knew them. 3. When this whole stupid issue started to heat up during the presidential election, Linda Lingle, the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaiʻi at the time, went to the state health department herself to view the presidentʻs original birth certificate, and stated publicly that it was authentic. 4. Here’s a good summary of all this nonsense from FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, Trump’s own alma mater (well, at least he claims that he went to Wharton): http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/the-obama-birth-chronicles-chapter-ccxcviii/(Although Trump, like most conspiracy nuts, will probably dismiss this organization as well, and question its stated non-partisanship.) 5. My own State of Hawaiʻi Certificate of Live Birth is similar to the presidentʻs in all respects, except, of course, for the vitals (name, DOB, etc.). One final point. Trump is a buffoon, we all know that. But why do people like Gingrich, Huckabee, and others who claim to want to be taken seriously, indulge in all of that other birther related nonsense about Obama’s “Kenyan worldview”? What Kenyan worldview? His father, who was born in Kenya, divorced his Kansas born wife and left his son when the prez was only two. He only returned years later, when the boy was ten, and then visited him only once. How much “Kenyan influence” was that supposed to have imparted on the child? It seems to me that the most influential person in the prezʻs life was probably his white grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, with whom he lived for several years. My father knew her, and by all accounts she was a very strong, determined woman who started her career at First Hawaiian Bank as a secretary, and rose up through the ranks to eventually become a VP, the first female bank VP in the state. The GOP used to call themselves the party of ideas. William F. Buckley must be turning over in his grave.

Not too smart are you? The parents of those men were Naturalized Citizens of the United States before the birth of their children. This means they were citizens of the United States when their children were born, which means their children are of course Natural Born Citizens. Sorry, I know how mortifying it can be get so completely owned in public. You will get over it.

This basic and deliberate misinterpretation literally invalidates the entirty of your post, so I feel for ya. that was a lot of wasted writing.

“I really do, and I don’t care how serious he feels about it, there are more important things we need to be talking about.”
~ Mika Brzezinski

This is called “wanting to change the subject.”

This is what people do when they can’t think of any logical defense to offer against an argument being made.

Obama needs to come clean and bring this uproar to an end.

Danae77 said:
Wrong, the POTUS signs laws into effect. In essence the laws do not exist until the POTUS signs them. Obama is an usurper and thus everything he has signed is illegal, does not have the force of law.

According to the consititution, when a POTUS has been shown to have failed to qualify, that man should be removed immediately and replaced with the sitting Vice President. This should be done immediately.

You might want to retake Civics. Obama does not make the laws, Congress does. Yes, he signs them into effect, but he does not ‘make’ them, and he certainly is not needed to pass a law. If he signs a bill, that means that he approves of it. If he does not approve of the bill, he vetoes it and it is sent back to Congress.

Danae77 said:
Wrong, the POTUS signs laws into effect. In essence the laws do not exist until the POTUS signs them. Obama is an usurper and thus everything he has signed is illegal, does not have the force of law.

According to the consititution, when a POTUS has been shown to have failed to qualify, that man should be removed immediately and replaced with the sitting Vice President. This should be done immediately.

Heck, they don’t even need his signature to make a law go into effect. A law passed by Congress will become a law after ten days, so long as the President does not veto it.

Stephen Hogan said:
You might want to retake Civics. Obama does not make the laws, Congress does. Yes, he signs them into effect, but he does not ‘make’ them, and he certainly is not needed to pass a law. If he signs a bill, that means that he approves of it. If he does not approve of the bill, he vetoes it and it is sent back to Congress.

Sonny, laws do not EXIST until he signs them into effect. Until he signs them they are BILLS. Hello, you might want to take your own advise there Zippy.

Stephen Hogan said:
Heck, they don’t even need his signature to make a law go into effect. A law passed by Congress will become a law after ten days, so long as the President does not veto it.

They are BILLS for those 10 days, NOT laws. Get a freakin brain dude. Stop talking about stuff that is obviously out of your mental capacity to understand. At best you are only getting PART of any given issue. You do not get the whole picture of anything, and you prove it over and over. Go back to school and develop some critical thinking skills.

Stephen Hogan said:
He said that his administration wouldn’t ‘defend’ DOMA, which means something completely different than ‘enforce’.

Semantics, word games. Popular amongst liberal clowns.

ndanielson said:
He just received an award. For transparency. Behind closed doors. Wow. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/obama-finally-accepts-his-transparency-award-behind-closed-doors/2011/03/31/AFRplO9B_blog.html

And did you hear that 0bama’s justice dept. just cleared 0bama’s justice dept. of any wrong doing in the voter intimidation case?

Obama’s hypocrisy : the gift that just keeps giving…

Danae77 said:
Sonny, laws do not EXIST until he signs them into effect. Until he signs them they are BILLS. Hello, you might want to take your own advise there Zippy.

A bill, which has been passed by Congress, will become a law in 10 days, provided the President does not veto it. That means he doesn’t need to sign it. The President DOES NOT MAKE LAWS.

Save your condescension.

Danae77 said:
They are BILLS for those 10 days, NOT laws. Get a freakin brain dude.

Yes, they are bills for that 10 days, but they become law REGARDLESS if the President signs them or not. They will become law in 10 days, provided that the President does not veto.

Please, look it up. Or save yourself the embarrassment and don’t. It doesn’t matter to me.

ndanielson said:
Semantics, word games. Popular amongst liberal clowns.

No, it’s not ‘semantics’; it’s a difference in legal definition. ‘Defend’ means something completely different than ‘Enforce’.

Stephen Hogan said:
Yes, they are bills for that 10 days, but they become law REGARDLESS if the President signs them or not. They will become law in 10 days, provided that the President does not veto.

Please, look it up. Or save yourself the embarrassment and don’t. It doesn’t matter to me.

He is good at voting present, too.

Stephen Hogan said:
No, it’s not ’semantics’; it’s a difference in legal definition. ‘Defend’ means something completely different than ‘Enforce’.

Yes, he’s voting present. What a guy!

On August 28, 2008, Representative Nancy Pelosi signed an official Certification of Nomination verifying that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as President of the United States under the provisions of the United States Constitution.

What evidence was provided by Obama to Pelosi to make this determination?

After all is said and done, it’s Nancy Pelosi we are all being asked to trust.

All of you conservatives who trust Nancy Pelosi please raise your hands.

“We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it.”
~ Nancy Pelosi

Stephen Hogan said:
A bill, which has been passed by Congress, will become a law in 10 days, provided the President does not veto it. That means he doesn’t need to sign it. The President DOES NOT MAKE LAWS. Save your condescension.

It is a bill until that 10 days has passed, or has been signed by POTUS. You deserve the condesention. Your knowledge of the legislative process is poor at best.

Stephen Hogan said:
The President DOES NOT MAKE LAWS.

Theoretically you are correct. But as a practical matter you are dead wrong. Presidents abuse the powers of their office without blinking, and Obama does so with a smile.

Obama is just getting warmed up. He will abuse his Executive Powered pen and illegally bypass Congress by interfering in the congressionally set rules & regulations of government agencies. A small demonstration of this is his installation of C02 as a dangerous gas at EPA.

As I said, Obama is just warming up.

Trump is an ignorant, elitist ass.

My birth, and the birth of all my sisters, were announced in the local papers when we were born. My father was a sharecropper then.

All three of my children’s births were announced in the local papers when they were born, and i never made more than $23,000 in my best year.

I’ve read over FIFTY YEARS of ‘poor’ people’s births and deaths in newspapers including those of the homeless.

Trump insults everyone who is poor by his statements.

I’d love to see Tribble-top dig a few ditches or pick cotton like i did. Might shut him up about patronizing people.

okami said:
Trump is an ignorant, elitist ass.

My birth, and the birth of all my sisters, were announced in the local papers when we were born. My father was a sharecropper then.

All three of my children’s births were announced in the local papers when they were born, and i never made more than $23,000 in my best year.

I’ve read over FIFTY YEARS of ‘poor’ people’s births and deaths in newspapers including those of the homeless.

Trump insults everyone who is poor by his statements.

I’d love to see Tribble-top dig a few ditches or pick cotton like i did. Might shut him up about patronizing people.

Pity you didn’t have time to read a newspaper or go to school. A ‘long’ birth certificate is required by law. What is so hard about understanding that.Are you simple ?????

Danae77 said:
Natural Born Citizen of the United States means being born with ONLY the citizenship of the United States

That’s a fair argument you’re making, but it’s not the law. It’s basically an opinion, based on valid points, but it does not have legal precedent in our system of laws.

Danae77 said:
It is a bill until that 10 days has passed, or has been signed by POTUS. You deserve the condesention. Your knowledge of the legislative process is poor at best.

Condescension? Possibly. “Condesention”, not likely Einstein. Maybe it’s the condensation that’s causing your ignorance.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/31/excellent-bill-whittle-on-eating-the-rich/

Watch the cameo with the fat capitalist pig and leftist hero Michael Moore.

Danae77 said:
It is a bill until that 10 days has passed, or has been signed by POTUS. You deserve the condesention. Your knowledge of the legislative process is poor at best.

That’s exactly what I said. Please re-read my previous statements. I said that a bill passed by Congress WILL become a law after 10 days, regardless of presidential signature, so long as the president does not veto it. Therefore, the President is not needed to make a law, and thus does not MAKE LAW.

Maybe if you spent more time reading and comprehending the comments that you are arguing with, rather than making juvenile insults, you’d have figured that out.

Klaatu said:
Condescension? Possibly. “Condesention”, not likely Einstein. Maybe it’s the condensation that’s causing your ignorance.

Sorry, didn’t know the spelling police were here. My bad, I am sure someone like you has never mispelled anything ever.

Stephen Hogan said:
That’s exactly what I said. Please re-read my previous statements. I said that a bill passed by Congress WILL become a law after 10 days, regardless of presidential signature, so long as the president does not veto it. Therefore, the President is not needed to make a law, and thus does not MAKE LAW. Maybe if you spent more time reading and comprehending the comments that you are arguing with, rather than making juvenile insults, you’d have figured that out.

How about you try to shoot down the argument we are actually discussing. Oh right, you can’t so you have resorted to changing the subject.

FAIL.

HostileLogic said:
Obama is just getting warmed up. He will abuse his Executive Powered pen and illegally bypass Congress by interfering in the congressionally set rules & regulations of government agencies. A small demonstration of this is his installation of C02 as a dangerous gas at EPA.

How is that illegal? The EPA is part of the Executive Branch, the Branch of Government Obama is in charge of. He does not need Congressional approval to label CO2 a dangerous gas, just like he doesn’t need Congressional approval to add a species to the Endangered Species list.

Danae77 said:
How about you try to shoot down the argument we are actually discussing. Oh right, you can’t so you have resorted to changing the subject.

FAIL.

What? I did not change the subject. I stated, numerous times, that the president does not make law. He is not needed to make a bill into a law. My above statement is not only in the same subject of discussion, it reiterates everything I’ve said.

Danae77 said:
Sorry, didn’t know the spelling police were here. My bad, I am sure someone like you has never mispelled anything ever.

Au contraire. They jump in my ___ regulary for it. It’s only fair that I respond in kind.

The “Birther” crusade is, indeed, rooted in hate. Brzezinski is spot-on, focused like a laser, on the truth.

Stephen Hogan said:
What? I did not change the subject. I stated, numerous times, that the president does not make law. He is not needed to make a bill into a law. My above statement is not only in the same subject of discussion, it reiterates everything I’ve said.

We were discussing the meaning of Natural Born Citizen.

I was kicking your butt.

But don’t worry, I have to go now.

Tata.

Danae77 said:
We were discussing the meaning of Natural Born Citizen.

I was kicking your butt.

But don’t worry, I have to go now.

Tata.

Yes, we were earlier. However, you proved me wrong. If I remember correctly (and a quick look through the comment section tells me I am), I did not continue the argument.

Strange, though, that you would call me out for ‘changing the discussion’ after a considerable back-and-forth on a new subject. I take it that you only brought that up after you realized that, in your effort to ‘win’ an argument, you ended up inadvertently agreeing with me. However, I was not making an argument; I was stating a constitutional fact. The President does not make law, nor is he needed to pass a bill.

I was unaware that you are incapable of having two separate discussions with the same person.

Danae77 said:
We were discussing the meaning of Natural Born Citizen.

I was kicking your butt.

But don’t worry, I have to go now.

Tata.

In actuality, it was you who engaged me on a different subject. I was having a conversation with another person and you decided to join in. So, you can hardly accuse me of changing the subject.

Danae77 said:
Wrong, the POTUS signs laws into effect. In essence the laws do not exist until the POTUS signs them. Obama is an usurper and thus everything he has signed is illegal, does not have the force of law.

According to the consititution, when a POTUS has been shown to have failed to qualify, that man should be removed immediately and replaced with the sitting Vice President. This should be done immediately.

Stephen Hogan said:
You’re taking my analogy too literally. And I can absolutely refuse to show my identification, unless I’m driving or am a suspect in a crime.

Typical lefty comment….It’s OK for me but not OK for you. LOL Very funny!

Jay Ray finished with this:
You are not a real journalist — you have no respect for others — you constantly interrupt — you should be off the air. Trump just wants the facts on the birth certificate — everyone does!! Just go look at the voting on the FOX news web site — 75% of people AGREE that Trump was RIGHT to bring it up!! We ALL want the Truth — apparently you don’t. I could go on and on — why don’t you read a book SPECIFICALLY on this subject — by experienced attorneys — “Obama – Ineligible To Serve – Lies, Crimes and Deadly Ambition” at Amazon. THEN see what you think you believe……………………………………. good bye O’Reilly P.S. WE WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP IN A HEARTBEAT FOR PRESIDENT.

Wow, Jay Ray, interesting take on O’Reilly. I agree, he is a bit full of himself…..a so-called journalist putting down a successful, respected businessman. I think O’Reilly was playing the devil’s advocate, all the while thinking he really is more intelligent.

Klaatu said:
Condescension? Possibly. “Condesention”, not likely Einstein. Maybe it’s the condensation that’s causing your ignorance.

Ha! God, this is so funny coming from you.

WHY DOESN’T HE JUST PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATE?

Forget the SMEAR Campaign by the DEMOCRATIC MEDIA…ask yourself:

WHY DOESN’T HE JUST PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATE?

NORBIT Jr. said:
WHY DOESN’T HE JUST PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATE?

Nobody is obligated in any way to engage and justify conspiracy nuts. Also, I think this continued nonsense helps his reelection chances far more than it hurts them, so blather away.

Donald Trump is nothing but a rich whore trying to get media attention and votes among the dumb red neck vote. How pathetic. The worthless scum who believe this garbage deserve what they get, garbage in, garbage out.

Here’s a nice take down of birther Trump.

http://tinyurl.com/4xcytmo

Barack Must Go said:
Try calling your local newspaper, tell them you want to announce your new baby grandson, they will list your request, for free, just like Barack’s grandparents did way back when. They won’t ask who, what, where or when, just a simple announcemet which proves nothing other than the existence of those two annoucements.

Here watch this video and learn something. The part you are addressing is about 3:10 in.

http://tinyurl.com/4xcytmo

I agree with Karl Rove on this one. “The Donald” is harming the issues at hand. Even if BHO was found illegitimate what then Joe Biden becomes POTUS? God forbid! This topic is long dead and serves nothing!

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Here watch this video and learn something. The part you are addressing is about 3:10 in.

http://tinyurl.com/4xcytmo

Some you thing it is a conspiracy also, ha ha. Get over it, You have a black president in the White House who won the presidency in a race that was not close. Get a life. He is more of an american that you. He was born here and believes in American values, the constitution and the American court system. Obviously you don’t. Why don’t you find another country that suits bigoted, conspiratorial views. Good luck.

captaingrumpy said:
Pity you didn’t have time to read a newspaper or go to school. A ‘long’ birth certificate is required by law. What is so hard about understanding that.Are you simple ?????

You are the ignorant one. This is all state law. In America each state decides its procedures. Hawaii official record is readily available on the net. Your dumb racist views are blinding you to the fact that the American courts have said that the Hawaii records are official. Why don’t you leave the United Staes and find another country to live in which reflects your bigoted, narrow minded views since you have no respect for our system.

Aren’t you a little curious? At first I ignored birthcertificate requests as nonsensical conspiricy theory. As time passed, though, I am having second thoughts.

Consider the hypocrisy of a President who is insistent that every American must show proof of having an Insurance policy but doesn’t need to show proof of citizenship before acquiring the benefits of being an American.

Also, I had to show proof of citizenship when I was getting a Top Secret clearance as a rocket scientist. My father and mother and three brothers all had to show the same documents, plus others.

I learned more about Palin in 4 days than I’ve learned about Obama in 4 years.

He could show the documents and settle the questions. Not only the birth certificate, but what passports did he do all his traveling on to Africa, the Middle East and Russia? What does he show as his birth place and date and citizenship affiliation on his applications to American Colleges? Where did the money come from for his tuition?

Obama restricts that information. He has spent millions of dollars hiding that information. Why? Such effort to suppress such innocent documentation just generates more interest in just what he is hiding. Simple to solve, if you are innocent.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Some you thing it is a conspiracy also, ha ha. Get over it, You have a black president in the White House who won the presidency in a race that was not close. Get a life. He is more of an american that you. He was born here and believes in American values, the constitution and the American court system. Obviously you don’t. Why don’t you find another country that suits bigoted, conspiratorial views. Good luck.

Are you having a break down or something? Did you even watch the clip? O’Donnell completely rips apart the whole birther nonsense and exposes is for the foolishness it is. That’s why I posted it. Now get a grip!

dahni said:
Also, I had to show proof of citizenship when I was getting a Top Secret clearance as a rocket scientist. My father and mother and three brothers all had to show the same documents, plus others.

So let me see if I’ve got this straight. You had to show proof of citizenship to get top secret clearance as did your whole family but you think the President of the United States doesn’t? They should have given you an IQ test instead.

Watch this genius. http://tinyurl.com/4xcytmo

Funny, isn’t it, that a sitting president was not vetted prior to his candidacy? One of the most important jobs in this country, and this interloper didn’t have to prove citizenship? He’s been in office over two years and still refuses to produce a valid birth-certificate, why? A notification in a news paper is NOT legal evidence of a valid birth-certificate. Not producing a birth-certificate when legal proof of citizenship is required, should be grounds for dismissal. So much for Bimbo’s “transparent” presidency!