Sourdough and onions? A little sliced turkey, lettuce, tomato, mayo and bacon and that sandwich rocks. Unless it’s got government cheese in it. If you’re going to have a Satan Sandwich, government cheese is a must. 

Sourdough and onions? A little sliced turkey, lettuce, tomato, mayo and bacon and that sandwich rocks. Unless it’s got government cheese in it. If you’re going to have a Satan Sandwich, government cheese is a must. 

Sounds good, of course I’d have to add avocado to really top it off.

Government cheese on price managed bread delivered by a government subsidized ethanol burning truck. Slathered in Baconnaise, of course.

Government cheese on price managed bread delivered by a government subsidized ethanol burning truck. Slathered in Baconnaise, of course.

Hey, libs…I have a question for you.

The left howls about separation of church and state whenever someone wants to pray at a high school graduation, or puts a cross up somewhere. Why is it all right to invoke religion in a situation like this? I don’t hear the left hollering about church and state in this case, and Satan is clearly a religious reference, you know, cast down from heaven, ruler of hell and all that? Why the double standard?

Is mentioning Satan any less a statement of religious belief than mentioning Christ?

Just wondering.

Why the big deal about a seitan sandwich?

http://www.mitoku.com/recipes/index/seitansandwich.html

Seitan is a great meat substitute. Low-fat, low-cholesterol and high-protein.

By the way, don’t strain yourselves, libs. I really don’t expect an answer from any of you on the above question.

Just sayin’.

Are you serious?
If so, put down the crack pipe.
Jesus H. Christ!

They are too busy laughing at you to respond.

What a lame straw-man.
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/what-is-a-straw-man-argument.aspx

Cleaver is a racist, so when it comes to Satan, he certainly knows what he is talking about..

Really? Seriously? The hyper-partisan idiocy runs so deep that you reached all the way to this in what is a truly epic leap of metaphysical logic. Dude, step away from the computer and take three deep breaths. make it five.

Fortunately I am not one of those that screams about religious references by politicians. Those that do are seriously wrong.

To be serious, I only care when tax dollars are spent on religious activity. As far as prayer at graduation or a nativity scene (or menorah or whatever) at city hall, as long as private dollars pay and it is evenly open to all religions, I have no problems.

By the way, as a Jew, let me just say that a Satan sandwich is obviously not Kosher.

That’s the best you can come up with to debate this point? Typical.

Like I said, don’t strain yourself on a philisophical point like this. It’s easier to call names, isn’t it?

Seriously, how is invoking one name any less a religious statement than invoking the other. The libs go nuts, sneering and mocking whenever anyone from the right brings up God and Christ. Satan is clearly a religious refernce.

Explain the difference, but, um, don’t hurt yourself thinking too hard.

1.  ”The left howls about separation of church and state”…
The Constitution prohibits the “establishment” of state sponsorship for religion.  The left varies in how they define “establishment”.

2.  ”Why is it all right to invoke religion in a situation like this…” 
Because it in no way rises to the level of state “establishment”.

3.  ”I don’t hear the left hollering about church and state in this case, and Satan is clearly a religious reference”
Even the agnostic make reference to religion.  ”To His care commending you, as I hope in your prayers you will commend me, I bid you an affectionate farewell.”- Lincoln
 

4.  ”Is mentioning Satan any less a statement of religious belief than mentioning Christ?”
Certainly different than an attempt at “establishment”.

5.  Just wondering.
Hope that helps.

“as long as private dollars pay and it is evenly open to all religions, I have no problems”.
I agree. The nativity scene is paid for by a private group in my town. There is also a private group that puts up a menorah. As for the Christmas tree, fake snow and Santa Claus nearby, I find that to be pagan (very winter solstice oriented whether people realize it or not).

“Satan sandwich is obviously not Kosher”
At least there is Kosher seitan.

http://video.adultswim.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force/a-bed-of-evil-and-lettuce.html

http://video.adultswim.com/aqua-teen-hunger-force/a-bed-of-evil-and-lettuce.html

Because it is a silly straw-man argument.
Rep. Cleaver is promoting Satan? He is a Satanist? Is that your point?

BTW, They say if you play “Stairway to Heaven.” backwards, you can here the band’s devotion to Satan.

So Dana Carvey and SNL back in the day was promoting Satan and the dark forces? For the love of God (or Satan).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWHOIowtzXA

As the Liberal Rock band ‘The Rolling Stones’ say, “Satan is a man of style and taste.”  So I’ll have what he’s having.  My guess is that this so called ‘Satan Sandwich’ is going to be delicious!

Weak.

The mere mention of Christ by a conservative politician is enough to give the media and the left the vapors, but a mere mention isn’t an advocacy for the establishment of a state religion any more than the mention of Satan’s name is, is it? 

I’m just wondering where the sneers are that get directed at any conservative who dares mention God or Christianity.

But thanks for playing. You at least made an attempt, albeit a weak one, to engage the point.

Perhaps Iron Maiden can weigh in on this important subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9kT37eIkaY
Or this religious organization.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Living in a country full of Tea Party types makes Nature Freak wonder if he is not already in Hell.

So if you meet Nature Freak,

Have some courtesy

Have some sympathy, have some taste

(woo woo)

Use all your well-learned politesse

Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, mmm yeah

(woo woo, woo woo)

So if you meet Nature Freak,

Have some courtesy

Have some sympathy, have some taste

(woo woo)

Use all your well-learned politesse

Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, mmm yeah

(woo woo, woo woo)

This is ridiculous, and I actually pity you for your inability to answer your own question in a logical and reasoned manner. Or maybe you’re just trolling. There’s still pity involved, though.

Liberals don’t hate religion; they hate the unfair imposition
or endorsement of particular religious beliefs on a secular democratic
society. If liberals en masse hated religion, there would be
no American Jew electorate that conservatives constantly malign for
voting Democratic, and there would be no progressive defense against
attacks of non-Judeo-Christian practices.

Christians, Jews, Hindus, Shintos, Bahais, atheists, agnostics and yes,
even Muslims, can co-habituate and cooperate in America because (more
often than not) we’re a secular society grounded on basic moralistic
principles and tenets that everyone accepts as for the greater good.

When government starts assigning intrusive and doctrinaire religious
standards to secular lives, that’s what angers liberals. It’s a shame if
alleged small government-minded conservatives wouldn’t be upset by it
too.

Sounds like you have had your fair share of governement cheese, Pablo. Stop being a free loading mooch on society and buy your own cheese instead of the rest of us providing your cheese for you. (This is sarcastic, irony for those of you who don’t know, Pablo is a blithering Tea Idiot.)

Do “Satan Fries” taste like “Freedom Fries’?

1.  ”The mere mention of Christ by a conservative politician is enough to give the media and the left the vapors”
If this is true then please document with evidence.

2.  ”I’m just wondering where the sneers are that get directed at any conservative who dares mention God or Christianity.”
Again…

3.  ”But thanks for playing. You at least made an attempt, albeit a weak one, to engage the point.”
To this point you have offered only assertion without evidence while demonstrating little to no understanding of the legal or political dimensions of the debate.  Your dismissive response is a clear concomitant of you partial understanding.

This is so typical of MSNBC – a debate on whether Republicans are in league with Satan.  I guess the race card dog won’t hunt no more.  So now the Left has launched the “devil card.”

Well you’ve convinced me!

That truly is an substantive, fact filled, clever, incisive response that goes directly to the argument at hand! Do you do this for a living?

A bit more Belgian actually. 

I’m not going to answer your question. It’s rather obviously a feeble rhetorical one the purpose of which is  to further your troll adventures, but I will say that our governor, Tollbooth Perry, had a week of prayers, Christian prayers, Fundamentalist Christian prayers, not a saint to be found, no invocation of the Trinity, in April for rain. Not a drop. The drought is worse than ever. That seems to me to be a very good reason to keep government and religion rather separate.

And, another reason: I’m a huge high school football fan. Almost all of the schools in Texas pray before football games. Horrendous. Most of the prayers have some sort of Christian heresy in them. Some of them are blasphemous. All of them seem to invoke a cooking oil (“O, Lard, we pra-a-a-a-y ….”). Many are simply silly. When government and religion mix, religion always suffers.

 The current rage in Austin is fries cooked in duck fat, with coarse sea salt and aiole mayonaise or chipotle ketchup. I seldom eat such things, but these are quite nice and not in the least oily. Have you tried them?

 The current rage in Austin is fries cooked in duck fat, with coarse sea salt and aiole mayonaise or chipotle ketchup. I seldom eat such things, but these are quite nice and not in the least oily. Have you tried them?

One should use “a” instead of “an” in front of substantive in that sentence, Pablo.

Cleaver, “the public actually votes to send people to Washington after having heard them campaign in some of the most nasty ways possible.”

I agree with Cleaver, Democrats vote in Democrats, don’t they?

Pretty sure that the religious and conservative movement over the years have employed the same card at one point or another against liberals, feminists, gays, ethnic minorities and maybe a few others. People going to hell for whatever reason, marking the beginning of the rapture, that kind of thing.

Cleaver? This is the liar who claimed he was spat upon by a teabagger–an accusation the media bought whole and circulated far and wide–but then, oops, video was produced showing he was, at worst, a victim of some guy yelling and a mild case of perhaps spraying-it-not-saying-it. But if you watch the video, you see Cleaver’s reaction. It’s priceless–the delayed histrionics. You can see the moment when he decides: hey, I can make something out of this.

The first sentence of your comment could have written for Ignatius Riley, the main character from John Kennedy Toole’s A Confederacy of Dunces. It comes across with the same bombastic arrogance.

The entire second paragraph is just, well, stupid. Thank God (the one you just mocked) that you’re on the other side.

I’d suggest that you try to elevate the level of your discourse (see Greg’s well worded – but wrong – response above) but based on past comments I’ve read I think you’ve probably peaked out.

Hey at least you can refute something in his post…even it is his grammar and not his point.

No I have not. Sounds yummy.
I do like dipping french fries in mayonnaise or vegenaise (great product, and I am not even vegan).
The one thing I miss about living in a city are the food options. Small town Florida has little variety culinary wise.

I apologize for the crack pipe comment.
I doubt Emanuel Cleaver is a Satanist. He was making a point, a good one at that.
Cleaver was not making a deep theological statement.
As for me, I do not even believe there is a Satan or literal eternal hell.
We create our own living Hell.
But it is not eternal.

I’m dying for a Satan sandwich! Do they have them at Subway yet?

Where can I get a Satan sandwich? Subway?

well, Harry…

A “Satan Sandwich” is an analogy/representation.  Praying/putting a cross up is an actual action. 

Comparing something to a “Satan Sandwich” is not equivalent to needing special-wecial time to pray aloud or putting up the thing that someone’s lord and savior was killed upon.

But, since a lot of the people in Congress are simpleton Jeebus Freaks, gotta work with words they can understand.

Really lame and stupid question, Harry.  No internal logic, no concept of equivalence.

Satan/Christ.  Who cares?  Neither are real.