Good for you, Mr. Christopher.

I hope those who called you a bunch of names in the other threat apologize in kind.

Thanks.

Good for you, Mr. Christopher.

I hope those who called you a bunch of names in the other threat apologize in kind.

Thanks.

But there’s no Liberal media.

But there’s no Liberal media.

Tommy, this is poor journalism, and it is not the first time. If it was the first time I would accept the error but you need to sort yourself out. An internal Mediaite review of what happened here would be in order.

Tommy, this is poor journalism, and it is not the first time. If it was the first time I would accept the error but you need to sort yourself out. An internal Mediaite review of what happened here would be in order.

As far as I’m concerned, every Republican candidate is more unhinged and fantatical than the last, but even I admit that “big black cloud” is an incredibly common phrase and that’s how he meant it.

Can we move on?

As far as I’m concerned, every Republican candidate is more unhinged and fantatical than the last, but even I admit that “big black cloud” is an incredibly common phrase and that’s how he meant it.

Can we move on?

Ya can’t win all Tommy………….

“Rick Perry ‘Big Black Cloud’ Quote Taken Out Of Context By MSNBC And ABC News”

AND TOMMY CHRISTOPHER and April Ryan and every other race hustler out there.

There, fixed it for you.  You have a long history of this bullshit, Tommy.  One correction doesn’t fix that.  

Too bad you did do more research before you hit print. Too bad you took the word of 2 HACKS  with a twitter feed and a blog. I’m sure apologies are coming from the 2 of them.

PS Tommy… Where does someone go to get their reputation back after they are labeled a RACIST?

… And you wonder why conservatives complain about about a liberal bias. Real or not, ABC’s reporting is what they mean. I think most expect this from MSNBC though.

It could get increasingly trivial in details like this until the nomination is announced. I mean this is just silly…

Guess this is just another example of the Tea Party and right wingers “whining”.

Well, I think the fact that MSNBC and ABC – two major news organizations – misreported this is more important than some leftwing commentator/journalist on an obscure website.

Tommy Christopher clearly relied on them. Perhaps he shouldn’t have but you’d think MSNBC and certainly ABC would have better standards.

Nope.  Instead of owning up to the fact that the media, including TC himself, were hasty in their zeal to trash the guy who jumped to a huge lead in GOP polling with predictable accusations of racism, he instead played the typical liberal blame game and placed the responsibility for the ‘error’ on somebody else (ABC).  Until I see Tommy Christopher apologize for immediately taking the Maher/Garafalo route on this story instead of doing what REPORTERS are supposed to do and RESEARCH and FACT CHECK, he deserves no apology from those of us whom he offended.  Just disgraceful.

They become TeaBagger Cult members!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!

By who….Colby ??

The left likes to race-bait as much as possible.. poor guys.. let’s make this a story and continue it..
Seein this is all they have to debate about.. to show how stupid it all sounds..Idiots in reporting again.
 

“big black cloud”

I think every book, movie, paper and sound of the word “black” should be removed from our society.. how racist to use such a thing although it’s as common as white! tisk tisk!
 
From here out “Black” should be replaced with “nothing” !!

“big “nothing” cloud”

there..better..
 
Im strongly considering removing “white” as well! Just to balance the society.

‘big fluffy “nothing” clouds”

There..better.. less meaning and confusing.. but not racist..
 
Obama is one half “nothing” and the other half of “nothing”… now there is some meaning right thar!!
 
Glad we solved this!!

Can we move on now to more “meaningful news?”

Rht Roo Scoooby !  So ABC news stepped on their dic*s big time. No surprise from MSDNC and Mr Ed.
This kinds of stuff drives independent voters and “moderate” voters wild. Where are the issues that we want discussed ! Oh, BHO not talking about them, uh, uh, er he being unfairly questioned by some tea party dude er, er terrorist. 

Oh and Tommy, it is better to be thought a fool than open your mouth (or keyboard) and remove all doubt.

There goes Olby’s entire show for tonight .

If he’s still on .

Thank you Tommy Christopher. Ace.

You mean this wasn’t a racist dog whistle, Tommy?!  Kudos to you for being intellectually honest some of the time. 

C’mon, Steve.  Tommy’s history of playing fast & loose with the race card is pretty extensive.  He’s always quick to throw the charge around.  That’s why he made this huge mistake here.  It’s not because he relied on ABC, it’s because he’s always searching for a way to call a conservative a racist.  This just further exposes him as a race baiter.  Breitbart found the clip and I believe they found it prior to Tommy’s post.  Even if my timing is off, it doesn’t matter.  If they could find it, he could have too…if he had any desire to.  Besides, even using the edited tape, it’s clear that Perry wasn’t talking about Obama.  It’s inexcusable.  

If you think MSNBC and ABC have better standards you apparently have been paying a bit of attention for the last decade.

Well if they can’t taunt his record, what else, use the race card. I often wonder if thats why Reid told Obama to run. Bascically his own party used Obama. If Obama isn’t up to the Job , whick by now we know he isnt, Reid and Dems knew that nobody could touch him because. ” he’s black”! Wow, could it be that the Dems used Obama not because he was ” brilliant” but because he is black!

There are PLENTY of legitimate reasons not to vote for this buffoon without making up exaggerated ones.

Could have been worse…

Like say… Tommy’s handling of the Weiner scandal 

Good, honest reporting here.  Mediaite is in a much better position to challenge Perry and others, if it also reports honestly when they are quoted out of context.   This site is at its best when it is tough on all candidates as well as on the media members who cover them.  

It’s an example of a group of dishonest journalists.

Folks complained that he got it wrong and were demanding an immediate correction.

And when he issues a correction he is still criticized? I’m applauding him for correcting his error not for getting it wrong. Or for his previous postings. Those are all separate things.

Anyway, he relied on MSNBC and, more important, ABC for the quotes. I think the criticism should be directed at them more than at Tommy Christopher.

In my book if a guy screws up and corrects himself, it should be noted. Again, it doesn’t excuse the screw up.

It must hurt when you step on your own dick like that.

moron…..

The Perry black cloud metaphor by accident or design is a crude metaphor. The black cloud remark strikes a familiar chord- a memory- in an older Americans. Perry’s black cloud is menacing to persons of color who were and still are frequently referenced in dark ugly dehumanizing and demeaning terms. The Perry black cloud is a reminder to many American’s older Americans of an attitude and a mood toward America’s persons of color collectively that once crippled this nation. Perry’s black cloud in the White House spoke to a former time when the darkness of racism hung heavy over the nation.  Dismiss the merit, but I understand why it’s bad energy matters to some Americans.

I understand Perry, but he should have said a big red ink cloud.  Black means you are in a surplus, red means you are in deficit.  

Maybe April Ryan and Tommy Christopher will learn to curb their judgmental, quick on the draw racist bashing. Sorry to easy to pass the buck onto ABC – they made statements so far reaching they hung themselves with their words of hate. ouch. 

Why are you commending him for issuing a correction?  He effed up, big time.  He HAD to issue a correction.  The point is that he has a long history of this type of stuff and if he wasn’t always in such a hurry to label people who don’t agree with him politically, as racists, he wouldn’t make a mistake like this.  

Yeah, great job admitting you made a colossal mistake that’s obvious to everyone with the listening comprehension of a 1st grader.  Kudos, indeed!

Good for you, Tommy, for correcting the record. Bad for you to have jumped on the race baiting bandwagon without fact-checking FIRST. 

As the man said, “Where do I go to get my reputation back?” What the HE double hockey stick do they “teach” at journalism schools these days? How to be “first” no matter whether the information is true or not?

That’s going to leave a mark.

Did ABC and MSNBC assume no one would figure out this obvious smear campaign?.  Honestly, the GOP smears should be from the democrats NOT the media.  

What absolute nonsense by the Left. Liberalism is a mental disorder is looking needs to get alot more attention.

funny how that other thread is still going. i keep checking it for updates…

This is not a question of MSNBC or ABS standards or Dogwhistle Christopher’s standards.  This is only the latest example of the smear campaigns that are in constant action against conservatives. Those who claim there isn’t a bias in the MSM are flat out lying and have zero credibility.  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

This is not a question of MSNBC or ABS standards or Dogwhistle Christopher’s standards.  This is only the latest example of the smear campaigns that are in constant action against conservatives. Those who claim there isn’t a bias in the MSM are flat out lying and have zero credibility.  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

This is not a question of MSNBC or ABC standards or Dogwhistle
Christopher’s standards.  This is only the latest example of the smear
campaigns that are in constant action against conservatives. Those who
claim there isn’t a bias in the MSM are flat out lying and have zero
credibility.  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

None yet…….

Well, Tommy, it’s pretty hard to unring a bell, my friend.  The race baiters are running with the edited clip, and you helped to spread the vile slur against Governor Perry.  At least you have tried to set the record straight.  Why no apology??

The Perry black cloud metaphor by accident or design is a crude metaphor. The black cloud remark strikes a familiar chord- a memory- in an older Americans. Perry’s black cloud is menacing to persons of color who were and still are frequently referenced in dark ugly dehumanizing and demeaning terms. The Perry black cloud is a reminder to many older Americans of an attitude and a mood toward America’s persons of color collectively that once crippled this nation. Perry’s black cloud in the White House spoke to a former time when the darkness of racism hung heavy over the nation.  Dismiss the merit, but I understand why it’s bad energy matters to some Americans.

But that won’t stop the left from doing it. Protect Obama like it’s 2008 and destroy anyone how goes against him.

What?!?  A black cloud, or a dark cloud, is a commonly used metaphor that has nothing to do with race!  I use it fairly frequently to symbolize a negative situation that is bringing me down.  I have never heard anyone use it in a racially disparaging way.  And Perry did not refer to a “black cloud in the White House.”  Writing that is as bad as what that lying, fat blabbermouth, Schultz, tried to pull.  

That was BLATANT and SO damn OBVIOUS !
Fat Ed Schultz should be called before he COMCAST BOD
first thing, reach a CONTRACT Settlement and then have his Fat Ass escorted out of the
building.
This is not the first time, BUT the WORST TIME.!

First off, who is shocked that big Ed did this? All of them over at BSNBC do this all the time. The left laps it up. Second, for shitsake now we can’t even say “black cloud?” Why don’t we just remove the word black from our vocabulary since every time it is used in a sentence the left screams “racist!!!!” How friggin’ stupid do you have to be to tie the words black cloud to Obama? Never mind. I know the type of people that watch Eddie. I mean seriously Libs, at what point do even you all start to say WTF with some of this?

Carter’s tenure was a black cloud as well, and trust me it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. You are reading way too much conjecture into this metaphor. To use another turn of phrase “you need to lighten up”

ABC and MSNBC have a history of misrepresenting the facts and outright lying.  Why they are taken at face value, especially by “journalists,” I just don’t understand.

Typical Left behaviour. They can’t look the bare facts squarely in the face so they lie and cheat to get what they want…disgraceful…simply and utterly disgraceful.

The “update” buried in the original smear pieces read:

“Update: Video of Perry’s remarks shows he was referring explicitly to the debt. Full story here.”

No change to the post’s misleading title?
No clear indication that the media’s attempt to race-bate was exposed?

Bull shit.

Tommy Christopher wrote “But there is no excuse for ABC News’ reporters abridging Perry’s remark
in that fashion. It was their reporting upon which April Ryan, and
others, relied in forming their strong reactions to the quote, and not Schultz’s edited clip.”

Tommy, isn’t this exactly the same thing that Andrew Breitbart did with the edited video presented to him of Shirley Sherrod?  Why weren’t you so quick to absolve Breitbart of any and all fault like you have April Ryan? 

First, Perry is in Iowa, where billowing black clouds can indicate a tornado or a severe thunderstorm.
The cloud analogy is so common, to try and link it to BHO being black and claiming it’s menacing to “people of color” is just a bridge too far. 

Plenty of real things to criticize with Parry… This soundbite a ridonculous choice of emphasis.

I commended him for it because I and others asked for a correction.

If you want to beat him up, fine go ahead.

Well I’ll defer to your expertise on dicks.

Interesting…you said black cloud in the White House when Perry said black cloud hovering over America.  Who has the bad energy?

you need to move back to Cuba. Fidel misses you.

Succinctly and accurately put.  I almost went with your same, abbreviated response to bll01′s identical post, above.

Please tell me you are kidding.

GE still owns 51% of the JV ( I think ) so don’t expect any changes from Comcast.
Now the only way to get Comcast’s notice would be if 50,000+ tea party members cancelled their Comcast service en mass via an organized protest and made it clear to the Roberts family the price for NBC News blatant partisanship. 
But I prefer to let people make their own decisions on value and what is best for them.

Somebody needs to ask Ed Schultz to unseal his divorce records.  Inquiring minds want to know about those restraining orders and black eyes.

I could undertand everyones batshit crazy reaction if Perry had said that there is a black asshole hanging over the country, but alas, he didn’t…LOL. The Left is so predictable…first the race card…then the just like Bush card…then the bumbling Texan card…then finally the religion card. Set your clock to it.

You are actually comparing vaunted ABC News to a (at the time) little known web site dude?  Do you also get your international relations info from Perez Hilton?

“Mama, put my guns in the ground

I can’t shoot them anymore.

That long black cloud is comin’ down

I feel like I’m knockin’ on heaven’s door.”

Holy Shit!!!! Bob Dylan is a racist!!!!!!!

“Mama, put my guns in the ground

I can’t shoot them anymore.

That long black cloud is comin’ down

I feel like I’m knockin’ on heaven’s door.”

Holy Shit!!!! Bob Dylan is a racist!!!!!!!

Well Tommy wouldn’t have to issue a correction if he actually did some investigating reporting  and got the full statement instead of trusting Ed Shultz as a source….but the problem is he wanted this to be true and ran with it and he’ll keep jumping on labeling any GOP candidate as a racist until Nov 2012.

Perry is a racist stop trying to pretend he is not.

Teabaggers like the original misinterpretation better.

I’ll type slowly, try to keep up.

No I’m actually comparing Tommy’s political and racially tinged response to Breitbart’s reporting on edited video to his response Mediaite’s and April Ryan’s reporting on edited video.

well we did stop pretending you are not racist so…………….

So, no more singing about black clouds? No more using black clouds in advertisements? No more black clouds allowed when there is a storm coming? This is going to be tricky getting rid of all the racist black clouds because obviously they are all talking about Obama. 1 black man that all black clouds portray is a pretty nifty trick I must say. What did black clouds portray before Obama? Were they just basic black clouds or were they just biding their time until Obama came on the scene?

What about Schleprock from the Flintstones? He always had a black cloud over his head. I guess he was a Republican making fun of Obama with racial undertones?

See how complicated it all is? (read as: seriously deranged and effed up) 

Of course there’s no excuse. And because they’re leftists, and this is standard operating procedure for them, we’re going to see a lot more of this until Nov 2012. How many more times will this happen before the rest of you start to notice, “hey, these mainstream media types seem to have some sort of bias”. Duh, you think?

Perry should not be taken  out of context.
He is plenty bad enough in context.

Rick puts the goober in gubernatorial.

Kudos to Mediaite for correcting the record.

Too bad the same zeal didn’t apply when Lawrence O’Donnell attacked Reason for not caring about police abuse, and Mediaite let his comment stand as fact.

Wow, and you’re a perfect example of what the problem is.

Aaron… Get some help.

No, D-Baggers keep pretending Tea Party people like the edited version because D-Baggers are racists, and that’s how they think. And they are so simple minded, that that’s all they can come up with for politcal discourse. If they didn’t get away with telling everyone what their opponents think, they wouldn’t have anything to say.

I think you have too much cheese on your nachos.

about as silly as the Elvis thingy, right, cakes?

Ed and MSNBC: the biggest race baiters in America. What’s worse, is he has that racist ME Dyson commenting on this fraud.

Just call Ed and MSNBC “The House of Flatulence.”

Ed why didn’t ya talk about all those “thug mobs” attacking stores throughout the country. Talk about a “big black clouds.”

If the Fargo Fat Ass, aka Big Eddie, says this makes Perry a racist, what is Milos Forman? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM-JLcOr7Pg

Don’t you love these D-Baggers? All they got in their arsenal now is to randomly scream, “he’s a racist!”

Wake up, you’ve overplayed the race card. Now people just laugh when you use it, and it marks you with a giant “D” on your forehead when you do.

sure thing, no commento

stalk much? Rhetorical question

I guess Alan Grayson is now doing Ed’s video editing!

the person that wrote this headline serves and is a special purpose. 

I’ll give credit where credit is do…Tommy did the right thing.

He had no choice. Don’t think for one minute that integrity played a role in the reversal of tune. If it was journalistic integrity he would have questioned the soundbite in the first place – knowing that commonsense would dictate what “a black cloud” could have possibly referred to. 

Perry called the big black cloud OUR DEBT not Obama.

Now that the quote has been sorted out and everyone has weighed-in on the issue of sensitivity, I’d like to take a moment to address another issue raised by this post.

In his reporting, Tommy referred to Ed Schultz’ role as “an oversell by a zealous partisan commentator” and MSNBC has acknowledged that they often come at issues from a progressive perspective. This is especially true and a widely accepted aspect of their primetime lineup. 

Yet, the post headline says “Big Black Cloud Quote Taken Out of Context by MSNBC” and a lot of commenters to this post and the one prior are painting the network with a wide brush, plus some are trying to fault NBC News for the situation.

Admittedly, I didn’t see the clip prior to this post, but unless it was shown during dayside or maybe on other shows, the more accurate description is that the Ed Show misleadingly edited the tape. After all, the stuff said by Sean Hannity isn’t supposed to reflect on all of Fox News, so why Ed Shultz be treated any differently?

I know it’s all semantics and an esoteric distinction, but if a news network is going to have opinion programming and try to maintain some kind of wall between it and news, then those who perpetuate them should own their mistakes and it shouldn’t necessarily be held against the larger network or the division from which they buy news content.

So is Obama – so stop trying to pretend he is not.

These are the same people in the media who constantly tell us that the racism on the right is inherent, the list of grievances are so extensive that it is a known fact.

Then why is there a need to fabricate the racist instances?

That ABC and Schultz stoop to this level of character slur explains so much of what is wrong; tellingly these are the same sources who lecture the loudest about the need to tone down the hateful rhetoric.

Hey Christopher:  Enough.  Enough of the bullshit about Perry having to “watch what he says”, blah blah blah.  Obama’s election supposedly ushered us into this post-racial society (and there’s nothing wrong with that). 

But then we have media types — like you — who want to find racial references everywhere, even in common expressions.  Please, cut the shit, dude.  Unless and until people like you stop trying to find racial innuendo every time someone mentions the word black, how the hell are we supposed to get to this “post-racial” era?  Shame on you and your ilk. 

LOL Perry is a racist.  President Obama is not going around calling people anything but Americans.  Unfortunately, the white supremacy GOP Tea Party has brought out the white sheets and people will not stand for the bs.

I am racist for calling out racism, LOl u are not that smart are u?

Do you think we should get some coffee and talk it over?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tommy Christopher has NO credibility – NONE.   The Obama-worshipping Leftist fools literally will start a race war in this country – and they don’t care.  I am so disgusted.   Over & over & over you prove yourself unworthy of the title “journalist”. 

Call yourself what you are – media whore, PR hack, disseminator of propaganda.  But NOT a journalist.

to call out racism, you have to point out examples dummy. but you just feel it right lol 

The Democrat party media lied in order to smear a Republican as racist? NO WAY!

“Now, Schultz could have aired the entire clip, and still tried to make the case that Perry’s remark was poorly chosen.”

Really TC? So now because we have a black president, it is now wrong for politicians to use the word “black?”

LMAO

So when the Dow fell  600 points last Wednesday, we can’t say it was “Black Wednesday”?

You and your libs pals really have to get over your obsession with skin color. You really look so, so foolish.

I guess we can no long sing “Black Magic Woman?” Black Widow is now out? Black Eyed Peas must change their name? Blackberry is now a racist phone? Black Holes are now People of Color Holes?

Black & Decker must change its name?

hahaha

Perry, like all Americans bears responsibility for what he says. As a candidate for the presidency, he will be under increased scrutiny. To blame liberal media for racial disharmony ignores the influence of partisians who have employed race based criticism. Tommy is engaged in clarification you should celebrate… Instead you engage in attack. The shame should be self reserved.

Yeah- it’s another so called “code word” right?

Stuff it clown.

No, “big black cloud” is not common.  The correct metaphor is “dark cloud”.  Perry chose the word deliberately and anyone who follows the rhetoric of tea-partiers on blogs knows who he is trying to appeal to with that phrase.   

You are a racist and a mighty dumb one.

I can’t believe you are defending Ed, and agreeing with Joan frickin Walsh.

Yeah, now you are a mind-reader.

Please STFU!

Please don’t judge me, but after I read, made a joke in comments and tweeted a political statement about the previous post, “Bad Luck Schleprock” also popped into my mind. So I went looking for a clip to see how they referred to his black cloud. Unfortunately though, I could only find one obvious segment in the few seconds it took me to conduct a search and though I watched the full ten minutes, I was surprised that a dark cloud couldn’t be found.

Stories like these are why the media should not be viewed as a complete and accurate source of political information especially information that voters might use to make important choices,like the president of this country.

Shame on them for distorting the truth to suit an agenda.even if that was not their intent,like ABC maybe,then it shows a complete lack of professionalism and that they can’t do their jobs well.

Prospective voters should not base their choices on any partisan show or channel’s version of truth.If they do they are being manipulated by people with an agenda.

For those who are praising Tommy Christopher for coming clean here, don’t fool yourselves.  He closes this article by showing Joan Walsh supporting Ed Schultz for playing the sound bite in proper context, and then Tommy supports her:
–”Walsh has a point, though, that Ed can make the case that he left in sufficient context, and that critics’ real problem is with the opinion he offered.”

But what of that opinion, Tommy? Schultz followed the clip with this quote:
–”That black cloud that Perry is talking about is Barack Obama.”

So that completely obliterates context, does it not?  Regardless of what Ed plays, when he verbally interprets the clip in this fashion it is indefensible.  Yet Joan and TC defend the guy. 

I agree with your stance here, save one detail. The original editing of Perry’s comment came from ABC News, not a bloviating talking-head.  That is a touch more egregious.

The Big Fat Cloud–Schultz–needs to be eliminated.

That would be true!

DYLAN DISAGREES,
Mama put my guns in the ground, I cant shoot them any more That dark black cloud is coming down,feels like I m knocking on heavens door

Maybe you need to google “big black cloud” then come back and apologize.

Hahahahahaha….

I just want to read the sealed divorce records for Ed Schultz, get the answers on the restraining orders his ex wife had, and what happened to her face.

Idiot!!

This is the same Joan Walsh who found Newt’s generic food stamp comment as racist, but not this blatant manipulation of video. Of course she needs to be defended.

“This is surely good news for the president, but the poll also reveals the continuing presence of a black cloud, asevaluations of his handling of the economy sank to a new low.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20060419-503544.html

There goes the band Black Sabbath.  Can’t say that anymore.

No, defer to your boyfriend.

No, defer to your boyfriend.

It’s a fair point to say that Ed does not represent all of MSNBC.

However, I saw earlier today this quote used with both Matthews and Sharpton.  So there is ample cause to talk about Ed as part of the MSNBC whole.

There goes the band Black Crowes.  Can’t say that anymore.

“Those numbers lurk like a black cloud over negotiations,” Ethan Siegal of the Washington Exchange, a private firm that tracks Congress and the White House for investors, said of the bloc that includes many Tea Party movement-backed Republicans who have resisted compromise on the debt ceiling.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43695878/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/freshman-senator-gives-obama-debt-limit-fits/

“Those numbers lurk like a black cloud over negotiations,” Ethan Siegal of the Washington Exchange, a private firm that tracks Congress and the White House for investors, said of the bloc that includes many Tea Party movement-backed Republicans who have resisted compromise on the debt ceiling.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43695878/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/freshman-senator-gives-obama-debt-limit-fits/

“If people are reading every day about how bad the housing market is and how many people are losing their homes to foreclosure, it creates a huge black cloud over the whole housing market, which weighs heavily on attitudes,” said New York real estate expert Barbara Corcoran. 
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/01/13/Foreclosures-at-All-Time-High-May-Rise-in-2011.aspx#page1

Update: Salin’s Joan Walsh points out that The Ed Show didn’t completely edit out Perry’s comments about the debt.

Ed explicitly said that Perry called Obama a big black cloud when he very clearly did not. That’s injecting race knowing full well that race did not exist in Perry’s comments. You don’t drop that edit where it is by accident. And Joan Walsh got it wrong…again? Shocka!

It’s amazing how quickly the Progressive Hate Machine gears up against the new Emmanuel Goldstein of the day. It’s not very subtle, though.

Get rid of your racist phone; the Blackberry!

Who can forget this classic RACIST! smear?

http://tinyurl.com/ntgazj

Who can forget this classic RACIST! smear?

http://tinyurl.com/ntgazj

Joy Behar claimed Black Friday was racist.

Nobody cut Shirley off in mid-sentence.

Next thing ya know, Ed will have a edited video showing Perry saying “Resist We Much!”

“Salin’s [sic] Joan Walsh points out that The Ed Show didn’t completely edit out Perry’s comments about the debt. They play his lead-in comment, ‘Being able to pay off 14 and a half, 16 trillion dollars worth of debt. That big black cloud that hangs over America.’”

Tommy Teabag caught in another lie. Go back to playing with Betty and Veronica, Tommy.

President Obama is not going around calling people anything but Americans.”

LOL

Except troll, when Barry is calling Americans “his enemies.”

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/4993-obama-calls-his-critics-qenemiesq

LOL

She is a total bigot!

Based on what?

Yes it is. http://tinyurl.com/43syy3l

Don’t be silly.

Well Ed. I’ve always thought you were a blowhard. Now it’s apparent you’re a dishonest blowhard as well. This kind of media crap needs to be rejected no matter who does it. The problem is it seems completely forgivable or just a little innocent mistake when your favorite network does it, and the work of lying scum when a network you don’t like does it.

Funny huh? 

Good one.

“You protest too much.” I said, “I get it.” By intent or design referencing a “black cloud” just didn’t turn out well for Perry. If that weren’t true no one would be writing about the black cloud. The point of view expressed has to do with a lens of observation and experience. By the way, could it be helpful to listen or seek to understand someone else’s point of view. I can read and understand the literal “black cloud” characterization as expressed here, but I happen to believe politicians prepare their speeches. It was likely not an accident. Perry should have known if he didn’t that his words could be misunderstood. I think he said this on purpose. I’m OK with being wrong about this. My understanding is born of observation and experience of the political disregard republicans seem to have for average working people, and the US government, and the President. After all, the disrespect for this President is unprecedented if not dangerous. “You protest too much.” I understand the republican world view, by their actions, and it’s not good for America. Perry’s views are toxic. His implied and actual personalized attacks on this President- are extreme and distasteful. I meant here to a raise possible understanding, that seems missing here, how these otherwise benign words “black cloud” would evoke such a real and not contrived emotional public response.

This is the guy who recently got thrown off the air for calling Laura Ingraham a slut, right? Boy, they sure know how to pick ‘em over there at MSLSD.

Left wing censorship is the most sincere form of political flattery. 

Texas cant call oil “Black Gold”

You point about Tommy’s clarification is somewhat valid but even Tommy could not resist to give Schultz some reprive in the fact he points out that the clip included the leadin about the debt, somehow lessening the scandal of big Ed’s attack on Perry.  The whole slant on this article is off base, it would have been more honest of Tommy if he placed stronger emphasis in not only his headline, but also throughout the article of Ed Schultz’s dishonest attempt at smearing Perry with his disengenous charge of racism.  What Perry said to me is the lessor story as it really is a non-story, Ed is the story and deserved a stronger critic than Tommy gave him.

I hadn’t realized the ABC report came first and when I clicked on it from the prior post, I didn’t read it as particularly damning. Yes, the “black cloud” thing was there, but “The Note” didn’t really expand upon it, editorialize about it and they mostly left it hanging among other quotes about economic issues.

To me, the only way to get a bad connotation from the ABC treatment was if you were looking for it, while Shultz abruptly cut it off and went directly to his interpretation.(The old ABC post has now been updated to say that he was talking about debt and when I started typing this comment the old post was still in Google’s cache, but when I tested my link, it too had been updated)

How racist is Black Dog?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2M6yV6mueg

Now, Schultz could have aired the entire clip, and still tried to make the case that Perry’s remark was poorly chosen.”

TC and Mediaite are starting a petition calling for the “White House” to be renamed because it is a racist house.

In November, they will also support a move to refer to people who dream of a white Christmas as racists.

“Big black cloud” is not allowed in our vocab anymore?

OMG – this has got to stop.

Obama needs to tell his little media sychophants that not everything said is racist; and the media needs to cease and decist in the race card throwing.

BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD
BIG BLACK CLOUD

Say it again and again and again and again.

what a bunch of morons in the media; sick bastards.

Because it was a blatant lie…..  if that is all we should expect from MSNBC then fine, but no one should ever hold them out as having any credibility whatsoever…  Hannity is no doubt partisan, and no doubt he sometimes pushes things to the limits, but never will you see him do anything so dishonest as this..  even if he did he does a much better job of balancing his guests (right/left), so even if he did do something like this chances are that there one of the two guest that were invited to speak on the show would have called him out at some point.

Democrats think republicans “righty’s” are confused by their erroneous news sources, too.

I call BULLHOCKEY!

I’d have to see the video and their treatment to judge Matthews’ and Sharpton’s use, if they really used it or made reference to the point, but they too are opinion programming. If I may go back to go back to my FNC example: if Hannity, O’Reilly and Doocey were to all use a bad fact would that mean that Fox News was misreporting?

Oh and for the record, I’m not asking as some kind of slam against Fox or to make excuses for the MSNBC hosts. Instead, I believe it’s a legitimate question raised by supposed wall and viewer distinctions between opinion and news.

D’uh, get the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth! Did you even make an attempt to LISTEN to Perry’s comment? Apparently not!

I chickened out and said “BULLHOCKEY”

I wish the RNC would get off its dead rear end and demand an apology from MSNBC, ABC AND Tommy.

It is time to quit being such wusses and demand that this sort of b.s. is stopped.

Actually Breitbart left the part in the Sherrod video about Sherrod eventually having her change of heart and helping the farmer…  Breitbart was unfairly judged on that video not much unlike what Ed tried to do here with Perry…  and if you watch the entire NAACP speech, there remained issues with the way that Ms Sherrod approached her job..  Given her family history, one can understand her resentment, as what happened to her father is horrible and unthinkable, but as Ms. Sherrod tells her own story a big change occurs, the Shirley Sherrod at the end of her story is much different than the Shirley Sherrod that sent that farmer off to seek the help of “one of his own”. 

All this tells me is that the Left is SCARED SH!#LESS about Rick Perry. 

It was terrible when posters here jumped to conclusions about the shooter in Norway, but here you have PROFESSIONAL journalists doing just that with Gov. Perry.

They went from 0 to charging that the term “black cloud” was code for black president in about a nanosecond.

A few commenters on a blogboard may jump to conclusions about Muslims, but media professionals do it when it comes to conservatives, folks.

THIS illustrates precisely how they truly feel about us.

Terrorists. Hostage-takers. Enemies we have to punish.

Our fellow Americans. I suspect things are going to get particularly ugly after the next election. I’m glad I don’t live in the city. 

Well, if professional journalists ever jump to the erroneous conclusion that you’re using racist code language on such execrably tenuous grounds, then you can be magnanimous towards them when they later correct themselves. 

After all, there are racists partisans in the world, so they’re perfectly justified in instantly assuming that you’re one…

Talking about Norway, did you listen to the interview on CNN with Obama and Papa Smurf. Wolf asks the president if he’s worried about another 9/11 attack. Obama answers that he’s more concerned about a lone gun attack on this country. His example is Norway and he throws the politics of the gunman into this. Strange he didn’t use Ft. hood which happened on U.S soil.
So what he was saying is that he’s more worried about a lone gun domestic attack from a U.S. citizen( Tea Party)  than a lone gun attack from a foreign terrorist. 
It’s hard to believe him when he says want’s civility when you listen to his devisive BS

“That’s an important bit of context, and contrary to Walsh’s tweet, BreitbartTV’s clip did include the full Ed Show lead-in. Walsh has a point, though, that Ed can make the case that he left in sufficient context, and that critics’ real problem is with the opinion he offered”

Isn’t that precisely what Brietbart argued with the Sherrod video?

“That’s an important bit of context, and contrary to Walsh’s tweet, BreitbartTV’s clip did include the full Ed Show lead-in. Walsh has a point, though, that Ed can make the case that he left in sufficient context, and that critics’ real problem is with the opinion he offered”

Isn’t that precisely what Brietbart argued with the Sherrod video?

Completely fair.

Yea, I think Tommy updated his article to say he eventually reached ABC and they stood by their initial report.  They must have added their clarification.

Joe is brief and to the point, rarely does he beat around the bush. In his state there may be a rattlesnake in the bush.

lol@ u wingnuts prancin andrew brietbart out to complain about edited video…..lolololol……you assholes are just tooooo funny…..you hobbits have been blowing your racist ass dog whistles since the the day Obama announced he was running for president……so dont go patting yourselves on the back and claim youve been vindicated….YOU HAVENT !!!!!!!………you crossburning tbaggistanis will never get off the hook……dont run from your racism,,,,EMBRACE IT SUCKERS………put on your Sunday best…you know the clean white sheets and pillowcases with the eyeholes in em and march your stupid asses right up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and take ya gawd damn white house back…..Parry  is just gonna go out like Trump and miserable tbagging racist and a birther……better get yaself another hero this one took 2 steps out of the starting blocks and fell down right on his face………HES DONE ALREADY

Nothing silly about it.  The correct phrase (and the one Obama used in 2009) is ‘dark cloud’, as in ‘dark cloud of uncertainty’, which has been around for 100 years. 

Rick Perry has only just begun to self-destruct with his Texas KKK-style hooliganism.  He will be completely disgraced by year’s end. 

The media sees Perry as the biggest threat to getting their candidate Barack Obama re-elected. They will stop at nothing to try and damage him. Fortunately, Rick Perry knows how to play rough politics as well as anyone. If the media thinks they’re going to Palinize Perry they are in for a rude awakening.

Down vote

So their lies are your proof. Brilliance!

Sherrod was not Breitbart’s target, Breitbart’s target was the NAACP crowd that cheered Sherrod’s actions when she mistreated the white farmer.   The point Andrew was making was that the NAACP was just as “racist” as the Tea Party.
The whole Sherrod ordeal was just a distraction from the fact that the NAACP crowd did cheer on the mistreatment of whites.  The crowd of course does not equal the NAACP as a whole, nor do the actions of a few crazies equal the actions of the Dems, Repubs, or Tea Party. 

Imbecilic comment by – what seems to be – the best the left has to offer.

And…not…worth…further…comment…

That’s a great idea, except that one of the most viable options to Comcast is Verizon, and they’re kinda busy with an IBEW strike.

http://tinyurl.com/3ftfe2v

I saw a Verizon guy striking today in a red T-shirt with “Scab Hunter” overlaid on a set of crosshairs. Civility now?

Here is another clip that the media will never show you on when a reporter wanted to ask a Democrat a question that the other liberal media didn’t like…Watch how dismiss him as not one of there own! How can you trust the MSM.  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=188_1313363924

BULLETIN — BULLETIN — BULLETIN

President Obama is a racist!
“And we must make it clear to every man, woman and child around the world who lives under the dark cloud of tyranny that America will speak out on behalf of their human rights”
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/flashbackin-09obama-used-dark-cloud-metaphor#.TksYAhJFzzc.twitter

Hey Tommy, now you know how I felt with the Norway incident, sometimes you open your mouth and put both feet in. Of course I am not a “White House mouthpiece” erm “White House reporter” like you.

The media is gearing up to protect obama and again work hard to get him re elected.  The stunt by ABC is just the beginning of another round of dishonest, partisan reports by the media in order to elevate Obama back to god status.  I only hope that the country realizes it was had in 2008 and not allow the media to re elect the most incompetent president we have ever had.

Your’s is probably one of the best posts I’ve seen in months! LOL. Well done!

Obviously you are wrong. “black” cloud has been used extensively, as proven in many posts here. You must be a racist to think that the word “black” is always used with racial intent. Grow up.

Thank  you, Monty, for lending some perspective!!  Wish that had occurred to me.

ABC mess up too. Wow I guess you can’t blame Ed for all of it.

“Salon’s Joan Walsh points out that The Ed Show didn’t completely edit out Perry’s comments about the debt. They play his lead-in comment, “Being able to pay off 14 and a half, 16 trillion dollars worth of debt. That big black cloud that hangs over America.”

That makes it even worse.  And, Tommy dares to defend Ed because he was simply offering an “opinion” that Ed believes he was talking about Obama and is therefore a racist.  That may be the dumbest thing Tommy has ever uttered, and that’s saying something.  

Good Gawd, Tommy, put the kool-aid down & stop bending over backwards to find ways to defend indefensible remarks just because they come from a guy that thinks like you do.  

Sent as a separate comment in case you get notifications, but here’s my take on the references clipped by Frances from Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews.

(If for some reason the links don’t go direct, Ctrl-F on my name)

“Papa Smurf?”  Laugh out loud!

“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.”

John Stuart Mill

BARACK,

That is very profound.  I wrote that in my journal.  Well done.

You’ve read my use of the phrase: “until your Ox is gored?”

“Funny huh?”  (Thats part of “neutral principle,” recognizing inconsistency and trying to remedy such)

Well done…

Also loss was the bigger story of the fraud Sherrod was involved in by giving loans to so called Black farmers whose farms are just flower pots sitting on a kitchen sink.

But there is JurNOlist!

“even I admit that “big black
cloud” is an incredibly common phrase and that’s how he meant
it”.

So is the Red Phone at 3AM, remember
that was “code” for the KKK?

If the Dem’s think America wants 4 more
years of this BS they are seriously wrong.

The incompetent boob is gone Nov. 2012!

BTW incompetent boob is code for
incompetent moron.

I think every book, movie, paper and
sound of the word “black” should be removed.

removing “white” as well!
Just to balance the society.

Noooooooooooo think what that would do
to Andrea “Black ink on white paper” Mitchell
stellar moniker!

If Perry had said “black cloud in the
White House” you would have a point. He didn’t so you don’t.

“black cloud” “Red Phone”
anything can be twisted into a racist “thing” if all ya got is
the “race card”.

Sounds as if he was using a metaphor that has relevance given the Indiana State Fair stage collapse.

Calling attention to the race of your opponent is usually done in local races where the black candidate has a good ballot name.  A black candidate will begin polling well against a white in white areas, and then the white guy says he will not make race an issue.  That alerts people to the presence of a minority.  Most everyone already knows Obama is black.

Whats the issue with this quote? why is saying a black cloud hangs over america a problem?

He got caught.  A real “journalist” would have done their verificatiomn, not being reliant upon another biased source.  This article does nothing to erase Mr. Christopher’s incompetance.  He should be fired.

When most people, liberal or conservative, read ProObamaAgenda’s  trope laden tripe, they automatically dismiss this as coming from some Ordinary Joe or Jill with a over abundance of partisan hatred towards opponents and a dearth of reasoning abilities.

What’s significant about ProObamaAgenda’s words are that they also represent precisely how April Ryan (a professional journalist and board member of the WH Correspondents Association), feels about conservatives.  What other reason would she have to immediately accuse Gov. Perry of using racial code language, based upon NOTHING more than his reference to a “black cloud” (ie storm cloud) hanging over the country?  How in the world could she have used such a tenuous example as fodder for saying that Perry was willfully sending out code speak…in order to appeal to the nation’s racists? 

She (and Tommy Christopher) did it because the words of our less than rational friend, ProObamaAgenda, are precisely THEIR heartfelt sentiments too.

As a contrast, let’s remember that  were posters here who wrongly jumped to the conclusion that the Norway shooter was Muslim.  This was an unfair and kneejerk reaction, but at the VERY LEAST, these people can say that a Muslim group had taken credit for it, and that past blomb blasts in Europe (England, Spain) had been tied to Muslim extremists.

What evidence is there for the labels and charges so thoughtfully expressed by ProObamaAgenda and so obviously ascribed to by many media member?:  Well, there’s the profound fact that there are racists in the world…there is the profundity too that there are  rightwing extremists…there’s the fact that some Tea Party members had racists signs…there’s the truism the prominent Republicans like Karl Rove are behind all dirty campaign tricks for Republican candidates.. there are other  oft referred to abstractions  about code language coming from other conservatives (as made by blue bloggers and liberal pundits).

Now there’s no denying that people …candidates have used racist code language in order to appeal to a certain voters.   There’s no denying that you can’t assume that any politician is above such a tactic in order to garner more votes, whether it be actual racists or race card tactics to incite voter mistrust and paranoia of such. However, each charge of this ought to be carefully considered and even afterward,  still viewed as an abstraction, as something ARGUABLE….

We didn’t get any thing like that here and we rarely do from the professional media.
To them Gov. Perry may not be guilty in this instance, but he is guilty of harboring an ideology and of belonging to a political party that is, in their heart of hearts, everything that was articulated by the the very ordinary and the very unprofessional ProObamaAgenda.

The correction isn’t impressive, so much as it is a compilation of others’ observations that a mistake was made by this reporter and others.  Not all writers jumped to the erroneous conclusion that this comment concerned race in the least.

What is still misleading was this: “On his program tonight, Ed Schultz apologized for taking the clip out of context and played it in full”

Schultz actuallysaid: “We did not present the full context of those clips …”
It was a mistake and we regret the error … we should not have included it in our coverage of his overheated rhetoric. That’s our mistake.”  He did not apologize for his accusation of racism and white country club remarks that opened his segment and he did not apologize for accusing Perry of making a racist statement.  He never mentioned it.  He only said he shouldn’t have included the clip at all.What is overheated about rhetoric that describes a $16 trillion debt being a black cloud hanging over our country?  Sounds pretty daunting to me.Where is Christopher’s acknowledgement of same?

MSNBC and the mainstream liberal media taking a conservatives words out of context to make them appear racist and out of touch?  Who woulda thunk it??  They pulled the same crap with the Tea Party attendees; they’re all old, white racists who hate Obama; they’re astroturf.  Now all of a sudden they’re so powerful that Obama claims he can’t do anything because some Tea Party types are in Congress.

President Obama takes a “listening tour” in a:

Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus

Please, somebody tell MSNBC (especially the Rev. Al and Mr. Ed) and ABC news to tell us what it all means.  Why a black bus?  What message is the president trying to convey?  Was the black bus slected for some “real” reason?  Why not a multi-colored bus (Oh, sorry for using the word “colored”)?

But really, does America need a

Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus
Big Black Bus

taking the president around America to listen to selected crowds of mostly white Americas? 

MSNBC and ABC will be looking deeper into its subliminal meaning! 

I just hope there were no big black clouds hovering over the president’s big black bus!

[Pooh:]
Why it may be that. You never can tell with bees.
Oh, I’m just a little black rain cloud hovering under the honeytree

A A Milne is racist! He picks the black cloud to be a thief.

If you have a commiecast subscription, which owns NBC, you are paying for this propaganda. Cancel now – talk with your wallet.

On his program, Schultz specifically said that when Perry made the ‘big black cloud’ remark, he was referring to Obama.  Once the unedited video was shown, it was clear that he was talking about the national debt.
The real question is:  How many other politicians (nearly all Republican, I’ll bet) has MSNBC employed this type of yellow journalism against?  And will they have the integrity to seriously reprimand (or fire) Schultz for this.  His on-air apology was tepid at best.  To me, it sounds like he was sorry that he got caught.

Why does Schultz do this crap? Is he so stupid that he thinks he won’t get caught? Or does he figure there are only a handful of rabid fans that watch him and they wouldn’t say anything.

Maybe the “Big Black Cloud” Perry was referring to was the one in Texas from all the raging wildfires that they cant put out because Perry approved a 75% cut in fire department services and funding?