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Rick Santorum And CNN’s Candy Crowley Battle Over Iran And Definition of “Appeasement”

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Rick Santorum appeared on CNN’s State of the Union earlier today, and he addressed his accusation least week that the Obama administration engages in appeasement. The president responded by suggesting people ask Osama bin Laden and other terrorists he’s killed under his administration if he favors appeasement. When Candy Crowley took issue with how Santorum was accusing Obama of appeasement, Santorum incredulously interrupted to tell Crowley she wasn’t being accurate.

Crowley played the two clips of Santorum’s accusation and Obama’s response, and explained to Santorum that more terrorists have been killed and more drone attacks have been launched under the Obama administration than under the Bush administration, but Santorum denied this was what he meant by appeasement. Santorum claimed to not count the continuance of Bush policies as appeasement, as he was merely referring to “new threats” that have risen under the Obama administration.

Santorum cited Iran as “the biggest threat to Israel and… to our national security.” Crowley interrupted to say that Obama had supported sanctions, but Santorum dismissed the notion Obama has supported any real, “meaningful sanctions.” As president, Santorum pledged to “fund the pro-democracy movement” in Iran, and would insist Iran open up its nuclear facilities to inspectors.

RELATED: Donald Trump Predicts President Obama Will Launch War With Iran To Get Elected

Crowley returned to the issue of sanctions, and tried to explain that President Obama was in favor of imposing sanctions, but Santorum interrupted her and said “that’s just not true.” He patiently explained that Obama has not favored the kind of sanctions on Iran that many others in Congress have called for.

“Ask Robert Menendez and ask all the folks in the United States Senate who want to impose the real sanction that will make a difference on Iran and the president has opposed it. Now that’s just a fact. He also has recognized the state of Syria, called Assad a reformer, has continued to have an embassy there, when in fact this is a real thug that is a real threat to the state of Israel and to the stability of the region.”

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  • Anonymous

    Rick Santorum is a courageous conservative who tells it like it is.  He is a good man.

  • Anonymous

    With the exception of giving money to any Muslim, for anything, I completely agree with Santorum.  

    President Obama will be juxtaposed in history books to Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin.  Furthermore, I am almost certain those same future history books will mention Vidkum Quisling and Benedict Arnold’s name when discussing this administration!   (Who was Vidkum Quisling?) Ouch!

    From inauguration day forward, all the President did was apologize to Nations who us for their very existence, thus weakening our own self image, not just the world view of America.But that was THE PLAN, wasn’t it, to weaken and diminish our homeland and become God knows what kind of country?

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Norman Kelley

    Mr. Santorum either knows nothing or is willfully misleading. Iran has had their nuclear scientists assassinated.

       

    The US has given Israel bunker-busting bombs. See two links below:

    Also, Iran had been plagued by a computer virus that slowed down their nuclear program, which people surmise was the  result of US cyber-warfare. See link below:

    If Obama was merely carrying out Pres. Bush’s former policies, then how does Santorum explain Mr. Bush not following his own policy in Afghanistan, meaning continuing the search for Osama bib Laden?

  • http://twitter.com/ArtfulGeek anthony i.

    Candy Crowley is a joke. Can’t believe she allowed this guy to spit out lies on national TV. 

    1. The US embassy in Syria has been shut down and diplomatic ties have been suspended. Both Obama and Clinton have repeatedly called out Assad and the Syrian government.

    2. Santorum said the US “never engaged in covert operations to stop Iran’s nuclear program”. The USA has obviously been engaging in covert operations for the past few months (see the US drone that crashed in Iran last week, and the virus that damaged the Iranian computer systems last summer, etc). Obama has never admitted to these covert operations, because guess what dummy, there is a reason why they are called “covert.” The president NEVER discloses what him and the CIA are up to, until there is an actual outcome (see Osama bin Laden).

    Again, Candy Crowley couldn’t even push back against his rambling. This is the reason why the media is losing credibility and CNN has become a joke.

    Only Bret Baier, Shep Smith, George Stephanopolous, and a small handful of TV anchors are actually smart enough to conduct decent interviews.

    Oh, and NBC news wants to hire airhead Ryan Seacrest to replace Matt Lauer? They might as well hire Kim Kardashian’s brother.

  • http://twitter.com/ArtfulGeek anthony i.

    Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/ArtfulGeek anthony i.

    Exactly the type of simpleton that Santorum appeals to. *shakes head*

  • http://twitter.com/ArtfulGeek anthony i.

    You believe there is a “PLAN” for Obama to weaken and diminish the homeland?

    You seem like a well educated person, so why are you embarrassing yourself on the internet?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    How is Santorum given a real interview asking about his positions on important issues while Ron Paul is ignored or interviewed with a dismissive attitude?  It makes no sense.

  • Anonymous

    I know it’s a rhetorical question, but why should a reporter be argumentatively defending the current administration — doesn’t exactly sound ‘unbiased’ to me.  One might say the main difference between CNN and FOX NEWS is as simple as Left and Right.

  • Anonymous

    I think you should go back and study some history, and the specifically the word appeasment.

    As a wise man once said, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

    It really is sad how so many people who are FOX followers know so little.

  • Anonymous

    How did this person ever win a Senate seat?  I would think that you would want a more intelligent indivdual to represent people in government.

    I am quite pleased that this yo-yo will never ever ever ever be President.

  • Anonymous

    The turtleneck…

    That’s all I’m gonna say

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    when regime change in Iran was possible in early 2009 Obama refused to even give verbal support to the student protests.  He wanted to try to negotiate with Iran.  3 years later we see how well that worked ;)

  • Anonymous

    “As a wise man once said…”  You’re kidding right?  LOL

    As for the word “appeasement,”  I did not use the word, you simply assumed such based on my phraseology?  Ouch!  Or, was it that you automatically associate “appeasement” with Neville Chamberlin, and/or Barak Obama?  Ergo, that is how I made my point, I let you make it for me.  Ouch!

    Appease, def. “to pacify or placate someone by acceding to their demands, to relieve or satisfy…”

    “Yessiree,” I am quite comfortable with my comment suggesting Obama and Chamberlin belong on the same page in history books.  LOL

    One last note:  I am reasonably sure that my grasp of history is superior to yours… LOL

    Purveyor

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    He won twice in a very Blue state.  So that must mean lots of unintelligent democrats ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    #1 the facts aren’t there for ya..try again.  http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/u-s-ambassador-returns-to-syria/  
    Dec 6, 2011 11:34am

    Ambassador Returns to Syria a Month After Recall Over Safety Concerns.
    Robert Ford, the U.S. ambassador to Syria is returning more than a
    month after he was recalled over concerns for his safety, according to
    State Department Deputy spokesperson Mark Toner.

    Toner said Ford would continue the work he started before leaving
    the country due to safety concerns in October, including “delivering
    the United States’ message to the people of Syria; providing reliable
    reporting on the situation on the ground; and engaging with the full
    spectrum of Syrian society on how to end the bloodshed and achieve a
    peaceful political transition.”

    “We believe his presence in the country is among the most effective
    ways to send the message that the United States stands with the people
    of Syria,” Toner said in a statement.

    At the time Ford was recalled in October, he had spoken out publicly
    against the regime of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and had been a
    target of intimidation from the regime. Ford was attacked by a mob and
    pelted with eggs and tomatoes as he visited a prominent dissident in
    late September.

  • Anonymous

    One more thing:  I dislike Canadians.  Ever since the University of Ottawa threatened Anne Coulter with arrest.

    Yet Canadians still believe they have “freedom of speech.”  How is the benevolent and oh so objective, “Human Rights Commission,” these days?  LOL

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    ANTHONY,

    You are a “boiler plate,” demagogue, hence I will not even send you hugs and kisses as such would be a waste of time.

    However, experience tells me that if, God help us, things go terribly wrong in the near future, you are the type who will run to others for protection, to be fed, assuaged, even give “extreme unction!”  LOL

    If you come to me for help, be assured, you are on your own…

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Ah yes, I am sure that YOU, are a maven of haute couture.  Do you even own a suit and a good pair of shoes?  LOL

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    “Courageous conservative”,… that stuck his foot in his mouth!

  • Anonymous

    Your response is actually sad if it wasn’t so funny.

    Let’s see.

    Chamberlain-  allowed Hitler to run roughshot over Europe.

    Arnold-   a true traitor in every sense of the word.

    Quisling- handed over Norway to the Germans.

    Right, Barack Obama is all of that.

    Too funny.

    The only words that are true in any of your entries are Purveyor of rhetoric.

  • Anonymous

    I do not know any woman named Haute Couture, nor have I ever acted inappropriately with anyone. These are lies spread by liberals and/or the Perry campaign.

  • Anonymous

    The sky is falling and it’s all Obama’s fault, unless it doesn’t and I can’t support the same! You’ll still be passing out sandwiches right?

  • http://twitter.com/Bennybombom Ben

    ………

    Ben

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be silly towards us.  We supply most of your oil.

  • Anonymous

    To give facts after lies, could be unbiased. Which differs from “Fox’s” 100% “bias”!

  • Anonymous

    “You funny guy GI.  Hey, you want boom boom, big riky tik?  Hey GI, I get you baby sista, she numba one virgin, she luv you real good…”  LOL

    That was a fine retort you sent.  Well done!

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    No, Santorum is a hypocrite, who’s wife aborted a child to save her own life. He’s a con man who tried to get ME(Pennsylvania taxpayer, et al) to pay for the cyber-education of his children when they lived in Virginia. If he hadn’t been shown up by a local politician he’d have gotten away with it too. He’s a K Street mainstay, and he provided cover for Vitter and other horny republicans. 

  • Anonymous

    I guess you feel that the US has every right to interfere in every other country’s internal situation, without being asked.

    That really worked out well in Iraq. Trillion dollars down the drain, and over 4500 of your proud military dead, and for what?  WMD. Really.

  • Anonymous

    I remember you.  I thought you were dead, metaphorically, of course?

  • Anonymous

    There’s always a smartest guy in the room. It’s almost NEVER the guy who says “I’m the smartest guy in the room”. Purveyor is so full of himself, I have to wonder: Is your first name Newton?

  • Anonymous

    “Silly?”  I wrote that I “dislike” Canadians, what on earth would give the impression I am being silly?

    In fact, I was quite serious!  I flat out do not like Canada or Canadians!

  • Anonymous

    Your best reply yet.

  • shonangreg

    You’re right about Crowley in this interview. She let Santorum go on and on, and then he did it again and Crowley responded by saying “We could go back and fourth on this” except she didn’t give one decent pushback.

    If there is something to Santorum’s charge, however slight, I’d like to know. His typical right-wing anti-Obama euphoria camouflages anything relevant he might have to say, and his inability to give credit where it is due just marks him out as a un-serious person.

    It is unfortunate Crowley couldn’t do journalism and get to the thoughts behind the sound bites, if there are any. With Santorum, it might just all be mis-informed self-righteous indignation.

  • Anonymous

    Man, you are a miserable human being. It must SUCK to live your life, where everything is scorn and envy. Get a hobby.

  • Anonymous

    Another brilliant response.

  • Anonymous

    GUYOXIM,

    Actually, I will take your comment as a “back handed” compliment.  

    Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/twiddle723 MaryAnn Bova

    Arrest? If it were up to me I’d ship her off to Pakistan. That toxic wench needs to be tossed from the radio, the tv, the bloody country.

    One more thing: I don’t like conservatives.

  • Anonymous

    OK, I concede.  I shouldn’t have said it was silly of you.

    What I should have said is that it was ignorant of you.  Besides, you still depend on us for the majority of your oil.

    Be careful, we just might turn off that valve.

    Oh and by the way, can you even find Canada on a map.

  • Anonymous

    IF, you played “Little League” Base Ball as many athletically inclined youngsters did, (as did I) I bet you played Right Field?  Also, you threw the bat when you struck out, right?  

    Am I right, huh, I’m right aren’t I?  LOL

  • SoThere

    Purveyor, you confused him with your post. He had to go look up the words.

    LOL

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    just when I thought Gloves was the most ignorant poster here, I think we have a new winner.

    Why do I think your IQ is lower than your age.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, you function on an emotional level which is typical of a Liberal/Progressive.

    Conversely, “I” understand the Philosophy and subtleties of the Law.  Meaning I appreciate the profound difference between Canada’s version of “free speech” and that granted to American citizens as a Birth Right!

    In other words, by my conclusion, people such as yourself don’t deserve Freedom of Speech as you are ignorant. (both objectively and disparagingly)  However, despite your limited appreciation for the Law, I am charged with your protecting and maintaing your right to speak.  So too do I guard Ms. Coulters Liberties.

    Such is subtlety that is probably lost on you, but there it is!  

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    SO THERE,

    How nice of you to join in the fun. I was hoping you’d turn up? LOL

    The phrase that encompasses the dialogue within this thread tonight is:

    “If, you can’t take it, don’t dish it out”

    It is appalling how the “Liberal” behaves when their “comfort zone” is threatened!

    Anyway, that was fun!

    Purveyor

  • SoThere

    When we use up all your oil, we’ll sell you oil from our unlimited supply but it’s going to cost ya.  Pipelines are designed to flow in both directions.

    You should turn the valve right now, you’re going to need it later.

    LMFAO

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    Is anyone surprised that Candee Crowley stands up and defends Obama on just about anything?  This is what CNN does – not journalism, not truth, just repeating the talking points they get from the DNC on how wonderful and awesome hehimself is.

    Obama followed up with Bush’s policies, GITMO, OBL, etc.  Bush was a bad guy for all of these policies, and Obama is a hero for all of these same policies.

    Go figure.  Reason onemilliononehundredninetynine why no one watches CNN.

  • Anonymous

    As for the world view of the US:

    http://tinyurl.com/ImgUsaPEWSurvey 

  • Anonymous

    The website you proffered is now 2 years old.  IF, President Obama ever had hope reconciling the Muslim world with West, such an opportunity has been squandered.

    My view is that Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity.  Ergo, America and the West live in 2011, while Islam exists in the 14th century with the attendant shortcomings.  Furthermore, are you familiar with Islamic law and the concept of “Taqiiya?”  

    Hence, why would any culture be so foolish as engage Islamic culture which approves of lying and deceiving infidels?  Any agreement is impossible.

    What in God’s name, do you find so compelling about Islam, that you would send me that pathetic screed by Pew?  While at the same time dismissing all the gifts of your own homeland? 

    Finally, I am gracious enough to comment on your Post.  Next time you feel inclined to post a site, have the courtesy to make a point that accompanies the site!  Have some manners 

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your comment and your education on manners.

    The survey was indeed half a year after Obama’s election. 

    You said:
    “From inauguration day forward, all the President did was apologize to Nations who owe us for their very existence, thus weakening our own self image, not just the world view of America.”

    Therefor I think it is adequate to link to a survey to show “the world view of America” from “ inauguration day forward”.

    This (http://tinyurl.com/83z52nl) is the most recent PEW survey from 2010 which shows the global image of US. Note, it again includes the results from Islamic nations, this should not distract from the overall numbers.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Rick looks comfortable mattering little. That’s good for him.

  • barbara clemen

    That was my first thought.

  • barbara clemen

    You think he understood the nuance,purveyor1?

  • barbara clemen

    You lost her at conversely,I believe.

  • Anonymous

    Coming up next on CNN:  A woman yells at a can of corn.

  • barbara clemen

    Santorum accomplished quite abit in his term,against all odds,and obstacles placed in his way.
    He also was involved in many charitible endeavors-none of which he’s ever sought recognition for.
    I believe him to be secure in who he is,where he would like to be,and how to accomplish his goals.

    He may not be the most dynamic fiqure,but he does know how to get things done.
    I’d support him in a heartbeat.

  • Anonymous

    I am a Liberal and I believe CNN is one of if not the fairest news organization in America. MSNBC is to the left what FOX is to the right. CNN tries to be in the middle. Candy Crowley wasn’t just defending Obama because she is a liberal. Frothy was making sh*t up, The only way the USA can stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon is to bomb them and no one is willing to start another war(let the Jews have that one). There is a limit to how far sanctions can go and at some point you will realize that it won’t matter and might make things worse. Sanction them too hard and people will starve and you give the regime legitimacy and support from the Iranian people. The only thing that is more dangerous than a nuclear Iran is a nuclear Iran with “pissed off at the West and Zionist” people. 
    For the record… It doesn’t matter how low the ratings of CNN are here at home but CNN IS THE MOST WATCHED NEWS CHANNEL IN THE WORLD. 

  • barbara clemen

    Your wrong,she never aborted that child,they loved that child,a special needs child.

  • Anonymous

    Google Santorum and you will see what he really is

  • Anonymous

    LaChoy Baby Corn, of course…

  • Anonymous

    You’re right about US covert attacks on Iran’s nuclear program, but — just paste the hyperlinks into your post next time and they should work. Don’t format them.

  • Anonymous

    Having Labor induced early by an infection of the amniotic fluid of the fetus in the mother is not an abortion. It was a natural labor, not induced by drugs.
    http://www.angelfire.com/ca/numberslady/santorum.html

    guyoxim is clearly a moron.

  • Anonymous

    Good memory.

  • barbara clemen

    Yo Todd where ya been?
    And I completely agree-they loved this child and shed alot of tears.
    Santorum is very under rated. He’s a man of principal.

  • Anonymous

    If and when Assad falls, Syrians will unfortunately inevitably elect an Islamic leaning political party most likely an offshoot of Egypt’s muslim brotherhood.

    That’s just been the pattern from Tunisia to Egypt to Libya.. this is all the culmination of US and Israel policies in the region.

    These people want democracy but also place priority on not ceding their sovereignty to the IMF or the US and sure as hell don’t want their governments be agents overseeing the ‘safety of Israel’ while they watch on a daily basis their Palestinian brotherens being oppressed, turned into refugees and their properties and lands confiscated

    One thing Santorum was accurate on by accident was Obama’s failure to back Iran’s green revolution in 2009 but, I add, has the audacity to take credit for the Arab spring when all he’s done was invent an anatomical anomaly, ‘leading from behind’

  • Mokhtar Joundi

    Much of Anne coulter’s vitriol falls under what is referred to as ‘hate-speech’ and overt bigotry. There’s no such thing as absolute freedom of speech, there never was and never will be. There are limits which then cross into hate-speech, which can be illegal, and Anne coulter regularly crosses these limits. Sure she can say whatever she wants, but that doesn’t mean UofO is obligated to give her stage to do so and preach her venom. Good on them for not doing so, and giving her the respect she deserves: none. The woman is an absolute nutcase, and anyone who can’t see that is one as well. That includes you, apparently.

  • Anonymous

    How the hell is Iran a threat to US ‘national security’? Unless he means we won’t be able to bully them once they get the nuk. The worst nightmare of this chick hawks is Iran having nukes it doesn’t use, because if Iran is foolish enough to attack the US (try not to laugh), it will get vaporized in about 3 seconds.

  • Anonymous

    A reasonable retort, my compliments.

    “Hate speech” is nascent product of American society and is, effectively, an assumption of what lies in an individuals mind which is VERY dangerous.  Moreover, hate speech creates a special class of victim, thus violating “equal protection, found in the 5th and 14th amendments?”

    I completely agree”, “There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech.”  Schenk v. U.S.,   Lemmon v. Kurzman, Wisconsin v. Yoder, Chaplinsky v. N.H.,  Texas v. Johnson,  are all cases from the last century, that in one way, or another, support your assertion.

    During the OWS protests a month or so past, Symbolic speech and expressive speech were claimed by the Left to be absolute.  However, and simply put, one cannot throw a rock and call it free speech?

    Unfortunately MOKHTAR, you go awry toward the end of your comment.  You allow your bias to overcome reason.  Ms. Coulter was invited to speak to students in the quintessence, of an exchange of ideas.  Coulter was not going to throw a rock, burn a flag or cross, etc.  Furthermore, she most certainly would not have said anythcing objectively hateful.  You just disagree with it!

    Quote:

    “All the winds of doctrine, were let loose to play upon the earth, Truth be in the field.  Let Truth and falsehood grapple, whoever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?”

    John Milton, Areopagitica  (1660)  

  • Anonymous

    Are you really that blinded by Dem ideology, look at how N Korea can get way with anything they’d like just by possessing a nuclear arms program, that country exports nuclear and missile technology to anyone willing to cut a check, But at least they’re not driven by religious ideology, now when Iran gets control of their nuclear ambitions they’ll export it to Hezbollah, Hamas and any other Islamic terror group willing to attack Israel and they’re allies, the Iranians are this planets greatest danger except for doves like you who’d rather bury your head in the sand.
    but realize the rest of your body will be vaporized by Irans Nukes.
    Once they succeed we will ” inevitably ” be drawn into war defending our allies or ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. For the same reason that all the other nuclear countries do not use nukes, “Mutual Assured Destruction” (MAD).

  • Anonymous

    CNN may be the most played, not watched channel worldwide thanks to airports. Also I watch all three and feel that FNC attempts to offer opposing views simultaneously on most subjects compared to the others that have a round table of liberal progressive thought.
    And I disagree that harsh sanctions will make more Iranians hate us, the ones that do, may hate us more, and the others may be motivated to push for a new regime, consequently if targeted bombings take place so be it because” nothing ” is more dangerous than a nuclear armed Iran

  • Anonymous

    I would agree that it is important to protect our allies in the middle east and to keep the pressure on Iran, but you are wrong if you think the Persians, a culture several thousand years old, is going to committ suicide by nuking anyone. The Iranians want nukes to protect themselves from politicians in other countries who are talking about nuking them.

  • Anonymous

    Why should the US have any say in what happens anywhere? I am not blinded by anything, i just don’t think the US has the right to tell anyone anything.

    However, to stick to the point, no one rationally believes Iran is a threat to the US. It is absurd.

  • Anonymous

    BARBARA,

    Nice to see a you. I wrote a reply earlier that is still in “brain lock,” so to speak. The computer won’t send it? If it is not sent soon, I’ll re-write the letter as it is more thoughtful,

    Again, nice to see you…

  • Anonymous

    It is not even MAD. There will be nothing ‘mutual’ about it. Iran will be erased from the face of the earth in about 5 minutes.

  • Anonymous

    For some reason, my earlier reply just went… “out here on the perimeter, where there are no stars”

    Anyway, as you can see, I am having fun toying with the minds of many people here in Mediate?  They NEED it, they DESERVE it!

    Somewhere above, I am accused of being a creepy mean old man with no hobbies!  Ouch

    Be assured, I am fun to hang out with.  In fact, I am going to the Gun Range this morning to shoot my Colt 1911, .45.  Were it warmer, I’d ride my Triumph Motorcycle!  LOL

    By the way, I posted another poem about my first love.  Is long, but…

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    What a despicable, shameful, hate-filled tactic!!! 

    Can you imagine the bullying that Santorum’s young children’s must suffer because of your vicious attack on their family name that people like you have perpetrated on the internet? Is this the Democrats call for “civil discourse” they like to talk about?

    I guess its only “bullying” if you’re that  special class of homosexual teenagers you call “Gay”.

    Shame on you! You’re despicabe, but people like you generally have little sense of morality anyway.

  • Anonymous

    They may not launch a nuclear missile traceable back to their country, instead they’ll distribute many versions of suitcase bombs or just the technology to our enemies. I’m not aware of any countries that are aggressive towards Iran except for defensive purposes because of Irans outward and declared aggression towards countries like Saudi arabia, Israel and the US as examples.
    And quite frankly I’m tired of toothless sanctions that owebama and the UN advocate.

  • Anonymous

    You are in fact blind if you don’t see that Iran is the greatest threat to not only the US but to the world as well, if you mean that it’s unlikely that they can nuke us with a missile I agree, but they can destroy our economy with such things as a blockade of straits of Hormuz that at the moment our navy and air force could combat but once they have a viable nuke program then that changes everything ( see N Korea ) and if you believe that they won’t ramp up their exportation of terrorism
    ( Hezbollah, Hamas, other proxies etc. ) because of this nuke trump card they’ll possess then again you are in fact blinded by Dem ideology.

  • Anonymous

    The US is infinitely more of a threat than Iran. We will have to leave is there.

    Your understanding of American politics is luaghable. You seem to imagine there is something called ‘Dem ideology’ in foreign policy. You need to check out the history of US military adventurism. Dems do wars as much anyone else, if not more.

     

  • Anonymous

    Barabu, what? The US is more of a threat to who? Can you name our version of Hamas, Hezbollah etc. Many of the conflicts in the world can be traced back to Iran including difficulties in afganistan and Iraq either thru hands on involvement or just advice and financing, my knowledge of our countries ” military adventureism ” is either in defense of our country ( pearl harbor ) or defense of our allies under attack. The only laughable thing is your perception of world affairs.
    PS. Turn on your spell check.

  • sweetdog

    Rick Santorum is a bigot. His chances for becoming POTUS are zero. Obviously you have never Googled “santorum” … Good man? Not so much.

  • Anonymous

    Rick Santorum is a moron.  If there is one thing the people of Iran agree on, it is the pursuit of a nuclear weapon.  For them, it is a matter of national pride. 

    So, by some nonsensical twist of logic, Rick Santorum is going to prevent Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon by empowering the people of Iran, who overwhelmingly support just that?

  • Anonymous

    These people are a joke.  Not only did President Bush not deal with Iran any differently than Obama, he actually empowered Iran exponentially by taking out its two main rivals in the region – Saddam Hussein and the Taliban.  Talk about appeasement – we took out their enemies for them.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    Ah
    Purveyor of hate.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    But that was THE PLAN, wasn’t it, to weaken and diminish our homeland and become God knows what kind of country?

    Opinion?

    Fact?

  • Hout Bosques

    All true – except for the “courageous” part, where the correct term is “monumentally ignorance” -

    and except for the “conservative” part, where the correct term is “reactionary nut” -

    and also except for the “tells it like it is” part, where the correct term is “tells it like he wants us to think it is, when it just ain’t”

    and oh yeah in addition except for the “good man” part, where the correct term is “demagoguing fool”.

    But otherwise that those, yeah – all true.

  • Hout Bosques

    Who cares how many tears where shed when the foetus – foetus, not child, folks – is dead?

    And do you think that women who get abortions don’t cry over their decisions and the outcomes? Do you think it’s just all easy peasy for them, no difficulties at all? Do you actually KNOW anyone who’s gone through an abortion – and since they number in the TENS of millions, I’m quite sure you do, so the real point is, why is it you don’t recognize these actual social facts? Are you in denial?

    I’ll only deal with the last question: yes, of course you are.

  • Hout Bosques

    Nonsense: that’s like saying, Oh noes, we can’t say bad things about that Mister Hilter guy, it’ll hurt his chillen’s fee-fees!

    Horse crap. This guy is an ignorant demagoguing busybody freedom-hating fool and he deserves far far worse than going down in history as the guy with the Google entry. His children will be just fine, just as soon as they get away from this creep & get on with their own lives.

  • Hout Bosques

    Iran is half a planet away from us, largely surrounded by impassable mountains, with 165 million people who actually have very sound reasons for thinking the US is crazy:

    - 1953 US CIA takedown of the elected legitimate Iranian SECULAR government, and the imposition of dictatorship under the Shah; and

    - 1980-89 US funding of Sadam Hussein & Iraq in the decade-long Iraq-Iran War, in which millions of Iranians lost their lives.

    When the biggest, most powerful, most nuke-empowered, most nuke-happy, most militaristic nation on the planet – being us – continually threatens another nation, that ain’t paranoia.

  • Hout Bosques

    “Obama will be juxtaposed in history books to Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin”
    It’s “Chamberlain”, you moron. You know less about actual history than can be crammed into a thimble.

  • Hout Bosques

    This is part of a “meme” war. Frank Luntz types ran a bunch of Republican focus groups who have routinely displayed a predisposition against the word “appeasement”, so that word, and a big pile of other words and terms they are predisposed against, just get sent around to Republican candidates and their campaigns and wingnut websites and “news” outlets to just insert in relation to Obama’s name whenever they can.

    It’s happened before, time and time again. It happened with FDR of all people, as he was trying to overcome Congressional resistance to the Lend Lease program before the US entered WWII. It happened to Truman. It was aimed at Adlai Stevenson continuously. They used it to attack JFK, despite the Cuban Missile Crisis, which showed the exact OPPOSITE of appeasement. They used it to attack LBJ – go back and look at the stuff Goldwater and the Birchers used to attack him, despite his increased commitment to Viet Nam, which apparently is the paradigm for right wing completely pointless stupid wars (Iran Contra by Reagan and the older Bush, Iraq by the younger Bush). They used it against Carter every day. They used it continuously against Bill Clinton. They LOVE this word.

    Well guess what folks: we can’t afford completely pointless stupid wars. We are now a banana republic, with Great Depression level hardship and unemployment, with the collapse of our social systems, with democracy turned into a farce in places as unlikely as Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. We are now a failed empire, with no energy security and complete capitulation to the rich.

    You want to know what appeasement is? Appeasement is Republican nullification of the Consumer Protection Act.

  • Hout Bosques

    Nonsense. The student protests were in support of a specific set of political actors, and almost completely confined to the northern Iranian large urban centers. 

    There was just a ton of coverage of that election to determine how widespread the vote fraud was, particularly on Nate Silver’s blog 538.com (before it went to the NY Times), and while Silver found an awful lot of reasons to suspect election fraud by the government side, he also found that in the end there was very little support for the notion that the Ahmadinejad forces “stole” the election. 

    You show your extreme ignorance of what’s actually going on in Iran. The Ahmadinejad “Basiji” movement is authoritarian and paranoid, but that appears to be because for the most part the Iranian people are authoritarian and paranoid, as one might expect from decades of international sanctions and continual attacks on their homeland sponsored by the US. The so-called Reform movement was popular in certain Northern urban centers, but never captured any serious support from the rest of the country, yet refused to accept that. If you want to point to a pre-cursor to the Arab Spring movement demonstrations in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yeman, Syria, Bahrain etc, it’s easy to take that from the demonstrations in Tehran – and it’s easy to take from both the rise of the Occupy movement in the US and the UK and in many other western democracies. It’s about DEMOCRACY VERSUS POWER, particularly money-fueled power.

    But besides everything else, you have no clue at all as to what Obama possibly could have done in early 2009 different from what he did. The US is a signatory to the UN, and the UN charter respects established political borders. Even if Obama had tried to use force, Congress would have stopped him by defunding – besides that we HAD NO MONEY to do anything there in the first place. And it would have led to war with China and Russia, both of whom are supporters of Iran as is. Neither could we have expected any support from Europe, because France in particular and almost all our other western European allies are at least partially dependent on Iranian oil. 

  • Anonymous

    Or it means that he’s a very accomplished liar and/or flip-flopper. Or that the conservatives “got out the vote” and the liberals got complacent about their state not electing reactionary psychos and didn’t bother to vote.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Kirkland/100000195274498 Brian Kirkland

    I love the way Trump says “Take the oil.” Santorum says I’ll Support a democracy movement in Iran. First of all, the same problem pertains there as it did in Egypt and Libya. These people are not looking for an American style democracy and there’s no telling what you’ll get,but you’ll most certainly be stuck with it.

    Secondly, these ARE sovereign nations. It’s bad policy to proclaim one’s intention to undermine a sovereign government, no matter how vile you think it is. Presidents, good ones, don’t do such things.

  • Anonymous

    NO COMMENT

  • Anonymous

    (Note: Judging from behavior and response to my comments by YOU and your compatriots, it occurs to me that you should all be “WIDDLE BABIE somethings… The tantrums that you and your ilk exhibited in the last 24 hours is shameless. Every one of you would make a fine Masters Thesis for Psychology student. Certainly “cognitive dissonance, quite possibly a pathology)?

    Anyway, I very seldom proffer “opinion.” If and when I do I make sure the reader knows such.

    Rather, I proffer, “conclusions,” based on observation, study and earnest deliberation. “Fact(s)” are a component of my arrival at a conclusion, ergo, facts are a means to an end, NOT necessarily the end itself.

    After all is said and done, I come to a “conclusion” and will argue and support my position. Effectively!

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that typical? I have a differing viewpoint and effectively support that view by way of learned and skilled argumentation techniques, thus causing you and others, discomfort. Ergo, you assert I am hateful. LOL

    I bet you throw the bat when you strike out too? LOL

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, we only watch out for DEMOCRATS kids, right????  A conservative’s kids are fair game for the left, huh?  

    You’re a scumbag.  

  • Anonymous

    Go ROOSTER!!!  The very idea that you might have even a remote chance to be president drives the Left Wing INSANE.

    You’re obviously doing something RIGHT!!! 

  • Anonymous

    You claim to be a Liberal?  Then you no longer count as you are genetically predisposed to self destruction, usually by way of cowardice.  Meaning, you cannot recognize threats much less defend yourself.

    Therefore, you and your sub-species are doomed as in nature, only the strong survive.  You are a proponent of Darwin, correct?

    So long!  LOL

  • Anonymous

    Read the headline!!! He feared for his life, so he FLED!  There was no “breach in diplomatic relations” to sanction Syria.  THE EMBASSY IS STILL THERE!!!!  You can google it and find it operating

    The Stuxnet virus is a Mossad creation, according to Der Spiegel, the German news magazine. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,778912,00.html

    The Bunker Busters supplied Israel were DELIVERED by Obama, but PROMISED by Bush.  AND OBAMA HAS NOT GIVEN ISRAEL OUR BRAND-NEW MOP, THE 30,000 LB BUNKER BUSTER THAT WAS DELIVERED TO THE US ONLY IN NOVEMBER. 

    LET’S SEE IF OBAMA GIVES ISRAEL THE MOB  

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2011/sep/27/iran-nuclear-weapons

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4148906,00.html

    If Obama had any REAL guts, he’d lend Israel five B-2 bombers until Iran abandoned its nuclear program.

  • Anonymous

    Though it’s patriotic heresy to admit it, I completely agree.  Given the history of US involvement in the region over the past 50 years, Iranians would be crazy not to want a nuclear weapon.

  • Anonymous

    As soon as you said,”I am a Liberal and I believe CNN is one of if not the fairest news organization in America.” you ruined any possibility that anybody would listen to you, even another liberal.

  • Anonymous

    U have got to be kidding me. Both sides on FNC? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA even  MSNBC does a better job  offering both side of the story. CNN isnt just watched in airports… I lived in 3 European countries and most people watched CNN for news

  • Anonymous

    No wonder Europe loves Obama and the Dem party only watching CNN, if they had another perspective on this countries problems without a left leaning spin they’d understand what the American people are dealing with. And your ridiculous laughing only shows your limited knowledge, list any show other than scareborogh that has opposing views, chris ( tingle up his leg ) Mathews ,
    Ralph Maddow, Larry odonnell, big Ed etc. Puleeese. I’ll be waiting for your answer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    It really pisses the right wing off that once Bush was safely installed in his ranch, Obama poured oil on the international waters (if you will) to sooth tensions between the US and pretty much every single country on the planet.

    It’s no longer as dangerous to travel as an American and we are no longer as reviled when we do it. Much of that has to do with the fact that Obama has been able to acknowledge that the USA isn’t always right on everything and has been willing to listen to multiple sides of issues before determining where the US will stand on them. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Why is it that American Christians know more about how Israel feels about Obama than Israel does? 

    I mean… Israel isn’t the one complaining that he’s not supporting it. 
    People who want all the Jews to go to Israel so the Rapture can take place are the only ones making that claim.

  • Anonymous

    Are you fricking nuts? A teenager just escaped from Muslim captivity today in the Philippines.

    And, I am quite certain people just pour into Egypt to see the last remaining wonders of the world. That is until some kook Muslim Mullah declares the pyramids blasphemy, and demand their destruction! (You do recall the Buddhist Statues the Muslims blew up in Afghanistan?)

    Furthermore, ask Anne Coulter about visiting Canada? Ouch! Cripes sake, I wouldn’t even go to LA or San Francisco!

    Purveyor

  • SoThere

    Theresa, here’s the real world, not your make believe world.

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  • Anonymous

    “Open shirts and raised collars, bright sculptured haired, 

    Fights at the food stand, girls in garages stripped, out to get liquor and clothes.

    He drove an hour each day from the mountains, the bus gives you a hard on with books in your lap.”

  • Anonymous

    See below.  EVERY ONE of your “facts” is wrong.  See my links.

    The Mossad has been carrying out the cyber and other covert ops.  This president hasn’t got the cajones.

    Ask yourself: What would the political outcome be if the American people knew this president had bin Laden in his sites and then did not attack and it was leaked?

    Your “Community Organizer” had no choice but OK the mission!!!!

    See how a REAL commander-in-chief would have handled it.
    http://www.urbanelephants.com/index.php/politics/3102-rick-santorum-stone-cold

  • barbara clemen

    I’ve ridden everything,1200 sportster last,got run off the rode in Boone ,Iowa by a VW BUG doing 70mph (couldn’t avoid them)on a kawa. Have a Yamaha now for the back 40.
    And I find most weapons friendlier than people…smiles.

    I carry All the time,and practice-Alot.

    I’m going Trout fishing in the morning-eat your heart out. Chuckles

  • barbara clemen

    Discus is in permanat brain lock I think. Half the time nothing posts to me,and I have to find you guys ,even the people icon in Discus isn’t working half the time.
    You too,smiles

  • Anonymous

    BARBARA,

    I think I’ll respond to this at the other site. You’ve made some BOLD statements. We could talk more. (Going down over 50, much less 70 is no pic-nic!)

    Purveyor

  • barbara clemen

    Alright

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MPPK2CTPRQYEYSXVOFVUJRX3SQ ken

    They are NOT left and right. They are right and batshit right.

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