Threw it in his face? Is that why Maher’s nose is so swollen?

As I’ve stated before, the continuing contemptuous dismissal of the Tea Party by the left is a deadly mistake on their part. Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

They think, accurately or not, that the Tea party is a relatively small group of political activists. What they don’t count on is that huge numbers of people, while maybe not active Tea Party members, agree with the Tea Party – and they vote. The left has been short sighted in this matter from the beginning.

Oh, and Maher is a punk.

Harry, you should differentiate that Maher is a radical punk.

Yeah, I guess I risk offending the rest of the world’s punk population by not specifying just what kind of punk Maher is. Oh, well.

I can live with that.

There is no such thing as a TEA PARTY. Until we see a (T) by a candidate’s name, let’s call them what they are: REPUBLICANS.

But Rachel Maddow told us that the tea party is hurting Republicans.

Um, zumpano, don’t look now but that non-exixtent Tea Party is stomping both the Democratsn and Rino-Republican’s asses most handily. For something that doesn’t exist, it’s sure leaving a big footprint on the political landscape.

Harry Flashman said:
Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

Absolutely. The condescending liberals need to get out more often. Eat at a Waffle House in Rolla, Missouri. Walk through a mall in Columbus, Georgia. Go to a picnic in Pocatello, Idaho. These places are where they’ll find real Americans, with (or these days, without) real jobs, making real things and providing for their families and having bowling night or just having a beer with their neighbor as the sun sets. These people are happy, and most of them don’t care what northeast progressives say about them as they sip wine and pretend that they’re better than they are. They do care that what they’ve lived and worked for, the dream that was the USA, is being hi-jacked by the stupid and the lazy, and the elitists that pander to the stupid and lazy, and this is why so many people have identified with the tea party movement.

Tea Partiers not only invented the term, they did so in order to inflict the same double entendre onto the President, the Democrats, and liberals in general, to which they now object. They have tried to re-cast the term as a slur, on a par with the “n-word,” hurtful to all the Tea Party members who are just ordinary moms, dads, sons, and daughters. The latter point has some resonance, but the former is ridiculous in the extreme.

In emails, protest signs, t-shirts, and online, early Tea Party literature urged protesters to “Tea Bag the White House,” and to “Tea-bag the liberal Dems before they tea-bag you.” The suggestion is that the metaphoric “tea-bags” be shoved in the mouths of the President, Democratic members of Congress, and even ordinary citizens who identify as liberal Democrats. The idea that they just didn’t know the term’s only (at that time) meaning is belied by the fact that they obviously knew it was negative (and non-consensual), since they didn’t want it done to them, and also because it only had one meaning.

It was only after MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and David Shuster, and CNN’s Anderson Cooper, turned the tables on the term that Tea Partiers objected. They were perfectly satisfied to advocate the metaphoric mouth-rape of liberal men, women, and children, but became indignant when the insult boomeranged on them..

That is such bullshit (or a set of mistaken assumptions ;)). Do you honestly believe that the 50-60+ year olds that comprise most of the Tea Party at that time knew what “Teabag” meant? I’m in my 20′s and the only reason I knew the term was because I played online Halo with the many 10-14 year olds who used the term/act. When I went to a Tea Party event and asked if they knew the negative connotation of the term, the older folks simply thought it was a reference to the original Boston Tea Party (or even meant to just throw a box of tea bags at the white house). The younger folks just quietly giggled.

I’m sure the ones who made the “Teabag the white house before they tea bag you” phrase probably knew about it, but to assume the vast majority knew and embraced it is just incorrect, IMO.

However, once more and more people started using the term “Teabagger” in a derogatory manner, the Tea Partiers then realized the negative connotations of the term and then started rejecting it.

Anyway, this is just my interpretation of what transpired, where I think you are just wrong. But I still think you’re cool.

I have to assume that because so many on the liberal talking heads panels are intimately familiar with the term, it was like being at home and comfortable for them until they started to gag on it themselves.

SWWT said:
Do you honestly believe that the 50-60+ year olds that comprise most of the Tea Party at that time knew what “Teabag” meant?

Spot on. I’m in my 50′s, and I did know what the term meant, only because I’d seen a news story a couple of years ago about a cheerleader scandal at some college where the term was defined, delicately. :)

Mr. Papshmer,

Well said, sir.

I could see the humor. Until MSNBC started beating it to death.

2 Things, first, if you watch Ed Schultz, and even Chris Matthews you’ll hear the term a lot. And second, you neglected to post one of the best parts of the show last night which was watching both Markos and John Legend try to school the teabagger lady on simple math. Several times she stated that we spent more money on the Sitmulus than the wars. She didn’t seem to under stand that 787 billion was less than 1.3 trillion. This made the fact that they also spoke about education an odd paradox for the bagger who was wrong on several other issues throughout the show. By the way, “New Rules” was spectacular!

Harry Flashman said:
Yeah, I guess I risk offending the rest of the world’s punk population by not specifying just what kind of punk Maher is. Oh, well.

I can live with that.

Thats okay Hairy. I think it’s safe to say that both you and The Kumquat are extremely dense tea-bagging punks. Didn’t want to risk offended the rest of the worlds dense population. Then again, most are tea-baggers.

writer said:
But Rachel Maddow told us that the tea party is hurting Republicans.

Yes and no. I think the Tea Party is in large part an honest expression of American’s citizens being fed up with DC Corruption. Whether the movement will be successfully manipulated by the GOP and it’s financial supporters remains to be seen. It won’t do any good to replace corrupt republicans with other conservatives who can be marginalized and/or corrupted.

I do hope that the success of the Tea Party to become a significant political player will also fire up other citizens to take a serious look at where we’re headed. There are no simple sort term solutions. It will take continued growth and involvement by citizens, in some kind of respectful and even cooperative way.

Hey, Ted….

I make a conscious effort not insult other commenters beyond a certain level of snark that I try to keep subject matter related. Personal insults are generally not called for and are the refuge of the childish and those unable to discuss issues with any degree of intelligence.

And Maher is still, by any definition, a punk.

Now say ‘brain stem’, Ted. No thread is complete without it.

Thanks Harry, sometimes I feel strongly about things and tend to ramble, but I’m glad you understood what I was saying.

Harry Flashman said:
Hey, Ted….

I make a conscious effort not insult other commenters beyond a certain level of snark that I try to keep subject matter related. Personal insults are generally not called for and are the refuge of the childish and those unable to discuss issues with any degree of intelligence.

And Maher is still, by any definition, a punk.

I’m thrilled for you. And by the way, you, by your very own definition are a punk…and a tea-bagger. Live with it.

By the way, don’t you tea-baggers ever tire of hypocrisy? Do you understand the term? Kumquat – I know you don’t so no need to respond.

Come on, Ted. Three more ‘brain stems’ and you win a toaster.

I’m with SWWT;

SWWT said:
That is such bullshit (or a set of mistaken assumptions ;)). Do you honestly believe that the 50-60+ year olds that comprise most of the Tea Party at that time knew what “Teabag” meant? I’m in my 20’s and the only reason I knew the term was because I played online Halo with the many 10-14 year olds who used the term/act. When I went to a Tea Party event and asked if they knew the negative connotation of the term, the older folks simply thought it was a reference to the original Boston Tea Party (or even meant to just throw a box of tea bags at the white house). The younger folks just quietly giggled.

I’d venture that a statistically minuscule number above the age of 30, who didn’t live in or frequent one of the coastal urban areas were familiar with the term. I’m somewhat older and consider myself more urbane, but I probably could count the number of times that I had heard the phrase prior to the rise of the Tea Party movement without needing my toes.

Though, one the term was put out there as a label for the group, it is easier to say and (risking fallout), it could be considered a more accurate description.

As myself and others have pointed out, the actual membership of the disparate groups aligned with the movement are very small, perhaps on line with the numbers of non-urbanites, who were familiar with the phrase, but there are many more people who are sympathetic to what is known as the ‘Tea Party’ cause. And of course, since there aren’t but a couple of actual Tea Parties and there’s no underlying structure, the proper phrasing wouldn’t be ‘members’, but ‘sympathizers’ and the most accurate ‘those sympathetic to the Tea Party movement’ is just too much to say. (I know because I’ve written it several times across a variety of forums’.

So, the short, one word descriptor that doesn’t imply an organization or membership would’ve been the way to go, but those damn Coastal Elitists re-claimed the phrase.

Hey, Ted…..

Does that make you the teabaggee? just asking. Now, run along little fella.

writer said:
Come on, Ted. Three more ‘brain stems’ and you win a toaster.

Throw in a ” nit-wit ” and he wins a bowl of soup.

PS) And I’ll add to my above rant that those carrying signs that said “teabag before… teabag you’ were few in number and can’t be considered indicative of the larger group.

If you took the name-calling away from the “progressives,” there isn’t much left.

Q. What do you think of the nuclear situation in Iran?
Ted: “You’re a brain stem.”

This sums up the extent of Ted’s debating skills.

Magister said:
the proper phrasing wouldn’t be ‘members’, but ’sympathizers’ and the most accurate ‘those sympathetic to the Tea Party movement’ is just too much to say.

You’re correct. As an anecdote, I can’t think of a single person at my work, who leans conservative, that doesn’t agree with the principals of the tea party movement, but on the other hand, I know of no one who has actually attended a tea party event. I live in a very urban area (Seattle / Tacoma metro) where there are lots of political events of this nature.

writer said:

“Q. What do you think of the nuclear situation in Iran?
Ted: “You’re a brain stem.”

This sums up the extent of Ted’s debating skills.”

That’s what the left does, insult and throw tantrums instead of honestly examining and debating issues. Look at the tantrum thrown by those two screeching harpies Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg when they were confronted by someone whose opinion didn’t jibe with theirs – and who wouldn’t back down.

Take those tools away and they have nuthin’.

And, let ne see here, um – yep. Maher is still a punk.

writer said:
Threw it in his face? Is that why Maher’s nose is so swollen?

HAhahaHAHhhahAHAHAHa (also because he’s JEWISH lol)!!!!!!!111

That’s Gold, Karl111!!!! Gold111!!!!!

…. and a year later the joke is on Shuster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELy61zkZHO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Harry Flashman said:
writer said:

“Q. What do you think of the nuclear situation in Iran?
Ted: “You’re a brain stem.”

This sums up the extent of Ted’s debating skills.”

That’s what the left does, insult and throw tantrums instead of honestly examining and debating issues. Look at the tantrum thrown by those two screeching harpies Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg when they were confronted by someone whose opinion didn’t jibe with theirs – and who wouldn’t back down.

Take those tools away and they have nuthin’.

And, let ne see here, um – yep. Maher is still a punk.

Hariy, might I suggest you grow a pair and stop your whining. Murf and Kumquat are professional whiners and security guards; you might seek advice from them. I’m sorry Hairy, but it looks like you are the one having a little tantrum. Expected on course. I assume you support O”Donnell? Is there really anything else to say? You are bordering on pathetic.

Yeah I support O’Donnell, but not for the resons you think.

I support O’Donnell because the thought of you liberals eating your own livers in frustration if she gets elected is truly a smile inducing one.

Now that Bambi and Igor have gone to Delaware and put the kiss of death on little rat-creature Coons it just may happen.

Heh.

writer said:
Threw it in his face? Is that why Maher’s nose is so swollen?

I think from the sexual tension and innuendo , it wasn’t just his nose.

By the way, tell Dana the teabagger that the deficit has indeed decreased from 10% to 8.9%. Facts, as usual have a Liberal bias. Oh, and O’Donnell is going to get her fat, dumpy ass kicked. She’s down 17 points and that was before the disaster that was the debate. Both she and Angle are good with the talking points but, there’s not much going on upstairs.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43681.html

SWWT said:
That is such bullshit (or a set of mistaken assumptions ;)). Do you honestly believe that the 50-60+ year olds that comprise most of the Tea Party at that time knew what “Teabag” meant? I’m in my 20’s and the only reason I knew the term was because I played online Halo with the many 10-14 year olds who used the term/act. When I went to a Tea Party event and asked if they knew the negative connotation of the term, the older folks simply thought it was a reference to the original Boston Tea Party (or even meant to just throw a box of tea bags at the white house). The younger folks just quietly giggled.

I’m sure the ones who made the “Teabag the white house before they tea bag you” phrase probably knew about it, but to assume the vast majority knew and embraced it is just incorrect, IMO.

However, once more and more people started using the term “Teabagger” in a derogatory manner, the Tea Partiers then realized the negative connotations of the term and then started rejecting it.

Anyway, this is just my interpretation of what transpired, where I think you are just wrong. But I still think you’re cool.

Magister said:
I’m with SWWT;

I’d venture that a statistically minuscule number above the age of 30, who didn’t live in or frequent one of the coastal urban areas were familiar with the term. I’m somewhat older and consider myself more urbane, but I probably could count the number of times that I had heard the phrase prior to the rise of the Tea Party movement without needing my toes.

Though, one the term was put out there as a label for the group, it is easier to say and (risking fallout), it could be considered a more accurate description.

As myself and others have pointed out, the actual membership of the disparate groups aligned with the movement are very small, perhaps on line with the numbers of non-urbanites, who were familiar with the phrase, but there are many more people who are sympathetic to what is known as the ‘Tea Party’ cause. And of course, since there aren’t but a couple of actual Tea Parties and there’s no underlying structure, the proper phrasing wouldn’t be ‘members’, but ’sympathizers’ and the most accurate ‘those sympathetic to the Tea Party movement’ is just too much to say. (I know because I’ve written it several times across a variety of forums’.

So, the short, one word descriptor that doesn’t imply an organization or membership would’ve been the way to go, but those damn Coastal Elitists re-claimed the phrase.

I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did. In my opinion, many of the others who saw the early Tea Party usage of the phrase either got the joke, or inferred it from context, and not a single one of them objected to the term as used against liberals. I have yet to see one pre-Maddow/Shuster example of this.

Therefore, any innocents who want to complain about it now need to do so to their movement’s inventors of the term.

No.

Since the debate she’s gained and is now down by 11. Like I said, Bambi and Igor’s visit should help.

With all due respect Tommy Christopher you are full of shit. The Tea partiers used to call themselves the term so obviously they didn’t know what it meant. Its just absolutely rediculous to try to blame them for using the term knowingly to be mean to the president and liberals. The reality. The truth of the matter is that people like MSNBC staff and Anderson Cooper behaved unprofessionally and got caught with their bias showing. It backfired because the American Citizens they were insulting did go home and cry but rather are on the verge of driving the Dems out of office. So now you want to re write history. Well unfortunately we were all there for it and you are a liar.

roxsteady said:
if you watch Ed Schultz, and even Chris Matthews

You’re kidding, right? Nobody watches them.

Tommy Christopher said:
I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did. In my opinion, many of the others who saw the early Tea Party usage of the phrase either got the joke, or inferred it from context, and not a single one of them objected to the term as used against liberals. I have yet to see one pre-Maddow/Shuster example of this. Therefore, any innocents who want to complain about it now need to do so to their movement’s inventors of the term.

With all due respect, Tommy, I think it’s all a matter of opinion. Whether or not those who originally coined the term new it’s negative meaning or not is pure conjecture. There is no proof either way.

Powerslave said:
With all due respect, Tommy, I think it’s all a matter of opinion. Whether or not those who originally coined the term new it’s negative meaning or not is pure conjecture. There is no proof either way.

As I stated in my post, prior to the “movement,” the term only had one meaning.

Tommy Christopher said:
I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did. In my opinion, many of the others who saw the early Tea Party usage of the phrase either got the joke, or inferred it from context, and not a single one of them objected to the term as used against liberals. I have yet to see one pre-Maddow/Shuster example of this.

I consider myself an unabashed liberal and am not a Tea Party sympathizer, so I don’t really know, but my understanding is that one of the first actions advocated by the organizers were to mail tea bags to their elected officials and/or to bring them to a rally,,, thus, the teabag them and a “teabagger” would be someone armed with tea bags.

To use as evidence, a small number of signs along with a couple of t-shirts offered by someone enterprising enough to open a Zazzle store doesn’t necessarily say anything about the group or even its “leaders, it just says that those individuals employed the double entendre. In other words, it’d be like taking one joke from a panelist on “Red Eye” and saying that it reflected upon the entire Fox News organization or that Bill Maher speaks for Time-Warner, HBO and the local cable providers.

Sometimes, we go down to the coast, about a two hour drive. At night, I have a Coleman lantern which, these days, is a battery powered flo light, not the gas socks that my dad used, but that’s okay. I BS with the kids and their husbands / wives and we shake the sand off of the grandkids, who’d been playing on the beach all day. I love falling asleep in a sleeping bag with a kazillion stars above me.

Too many people are jealous of what I have. I don’t have much, but it makes me happy. I’m not rich, and I don’t have a college education. But I do have a mit, and I did play catch with my dad before he died. A couple of weeks ago, I visited my kid at Fort Benning when he graduated an Airborne school, and I was really happy. I’m a normal, regular American, and I don’t like what’s happening. “Hope and Change” is a catchphrase for idiots.

PS) Along the lines of my earlier comment…

The phrasing “Tea Party” has evolved into common usage as being equivalent to the Democratic or Republican Party, but especially in the early days, it should’ve been in lowercase. As I understand it and as I interpreted the Santelli rant, the original concept was a type of party, much like the one that I throw for kids on their birthdays.

Magister said:
I consider myself an unabashed liberal and am not a Tea Party sympathizer, so I don’t really know, but my understanding is that one of the first actions advocated by the organizers were to mail tea bags to their elected officials and/or to bring them to a rally,,, thus, the teabag them and a “teabagger” would be someone armed with tea bags.

To use as evidence, a small number of signs along with a couple of t-shirts offered by someone enterprising enough to open a Zazzle store doesn’t necessarily say anything about the group or even its “leaders, it just says that those individuals employed the double entendre. In other words, it’d be like taking one joke from a panelist on “Red Eye” and saying that it reflected upon the entire Fox News organization or that Bill Maher speaks for Time-Warner, HBO and the local cable providers.

It wasn’t just signs and t-shirts. There was extensive use of the phrase in literature, emails, and blogs. Your theory doesn’t explain why they would fear being “teabagged” in return by Democrats, the White House, and liberals. It makes no sense.

writer said:
Q. What do you think of the nuclear situation in Iran?
Ted: “You’re a brain stem.”

This sums up the extent of Ted’s debating skills.

FULL TRANSCRIPT OF TED’S PRESS CONFERENCE

Q. How can you justify a $14 trillion dollar deficit — which Obama is increasing by $100 billion every month?
Ted: You’re a brain stem.

Q. Seventeen soldiers were killed in Afghanistan this week. What’s your view on that?
Ted: You’re an idiot.

Q. A huge tax increase is coming on January 1. Any comments?
Ted: You’re a brain stem.

Q. Polls show Obama’s favorability rating has fallen by 25% since he took office. Why is that?
Ted: You’re an idiot.

Q. The Democrats have put taxpayers on the hook for $100 trillion in future unfunded liabilities. How can you justify that?
Ted: You’re an brain stem.

Q. What do your family members and friends tell you, Ted, every time they see you?
Ted: You’re a brain stem and an idiot.

Tommy Christopher said:
As I stated in my post, prior to the “movement,” the term only had one meaning.

I thought the term evolved from the Boston Tea Party references and early members using Tea Bags to represent “liberty from Tyranny” or something like that. I assumed they didn’t understand the reference until later, but it sure is possible other members completely understood and enjoyed the double meaning.

Like you I think the point is now that it is a derogatory name that only serves to divide citizens who are truly concerned about their country. I encourage all liberals to refrain form using it in that way. Even when we disagree politically we can strive to treat each other with some basic respect and consideration.

Tommy Christopher said:
It wasn’t just signs and t-shirts. There was extensive use of the phrase in literature, emails, and blogs. Your theory doesn’t explain why they would fear being “teabagged” in return by Democrats, the White House, and liberals. It makes no sense.

Oh, I agree that those who said “teabag before… teabag you” knew what they were saying, but once its meaning became known to the larger group and their “leaders” learned that the young people’s tagline could come back to bite them, it was dropped from “official” use.

Also, I doubt that the enterprising dude (dudette?) sold a huge number of t-shirts because I’ve never seen one in the wild, but they probably made good money for an hour’s worth of work

Why is Dana rolling in the mud with these Progressive PIGS? They are disgusting and irrelevant.

I watched the show and that Tea Party woman was owned by the others. Every lie and distortion she told was exposed, even by the WSJ reporter.

How many people who are offended by the term, Teabaggers, say Democrat Party or Democrat senator? The intentional misuse of Democrat, which is clearly a slur, has become ubiquitous. The media don’t sic it and people who should know better use it.
Teabaggers is the least of what these people should be called.

1) I wish you could thumbs up or down the writers of these articles. Too scared to think what the majority think of your postings?

2) In as long as I have read posts on this website, I have never heard Ted make any type of contribution to any of the discussions on this website except name-calling.

3) I guarantee you that the term “tea-bagging” was not known and still may not be known by the vast majority of tea party people. Most of them are decent people who don’t have such nasty references in their vocabulary. I myself had to look it up on urbandictionary.com after the disgusting display by Rachel Maddow and David Schuster. As roxsteady likes to derogatively point out how old the tea party people are, I’m sure they have not heard of the perversions being attributed to what used to be such normal words. This country and it’s language have been coarsened beyond belief. It is truly a sad commentary on our country.

felixw said:
FULL TRANSCRIPT OF TED’S PRESS CONFERENCE

Q. How can you justify a $14 trillion dollar deficit — which Obama is increasing by $100 billion every month?
Ted: You’re a brain stem.

Q. Seventeen soldiers were killed in Afghanistan this week. What’s your view on that?
Ted: You’re an idiot.

Q. A huge tax increase is coming on January 1. Any comments?
Ted: You’re a brain stem.

Q. Polls show Obama’s favorability rating has fallen by 25% since he took office. Why is that?
Ted: You’re an idiot.

Q. The Democrats have put taxpayers on the hook for $100 trillion in future unfunded liabilities. How can you justify that?
Ted: You’re an brain stem.

Q. What do your family members and friends tell you, Ted, every time they see you?
Ted: You’re a brain stem and an idiot.

The problem is you never ask those questions and you wouldn’t know the answers if they were posted on your forehead. You are simply not up to speed on the issues, and therefore the only alternative I have is to minimize tea-baggers like you. And you deserve to be minimized. You are an embarrassment to this great country.

He actually did her a favor. This way she didn’t have to defend the fact that by today’s standards, Regan was a flaming liberal.

Tommy, there used to be a restaurant near where I grew up called “Steve’s Gay 90′s”, Weird how words mean things, eh?

Beautiful Dana . ” You’re a good man , sister “.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Tommy, there used to be a restaurant near where I grew up called “Steve’s Gay 90’s”, Weird how words mean things, eh?

Is it papsmear or rush?

Ted, actually, you crack me up most of the time, you really are a ___

Mr.Papshmer said:
Ted, actually, you crack me up most of the time, you really are a ___

Same to you, you really are an asshole.

felixw said:
If you took the name-calling away from the “progressives,” there isn’t much left.

ha ha oh get it…..there isn’t much….LEFT…… that’s a nice pun……oh yea that’s a keeper..

Rightwingers love to feel persecuted because it adds validation to their evangelical martyr roots.

Tommy Christopher said:
I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did. In my opinion, many of the others who saw the early Tea Party usage of the phrase either got the joke, or inferred it from context, and not a single one of them objected to the term as used against liberals. I have yet to see one pre-Maddow/Shuster example of this.

Therefore, any innocents who want to complain about it now need to do so to their movement’s inventors of the term.

Yes Tommy… A few rap stars use the n-word… so then it’s OK. And if another person of color has a problem with it? Well they should take it up with the rap artist… so up there’s. Really??? You actually believe that crap? Or is it’s OK because it’s against a group of people YOU hate with a passion?

I also love how rightwingers feels victimized when their own shit gets thrown back at them.

Wait! self victimization! I thought that was supposed to be a liberal shtick.

Cartman from southpark is probably the best metaphor for teatard loudmouths. They’re fat and obnoxious and like to talk a lot of shit,…you hit them once in the mouth and they start crying like little bitches for their mommy.

“hit in the mouth” is also metaphorical. thought I should explain because teabaggers are idiots who like to take everything literally. And then cry about it some more.

nrg, thank you for not stereotyping.

writer said:
nrg, thank you for not stereotyping.

no problem

I don’t think I ever used the term ‘teabagger’ or if I did it was only once or twice. However, the term ‘Tealiban’ is dead on appropriate for the Tea Party. Primitive, ignorant, illogical, fanatic — Tealiban it is.

Ted- said:
The problem is you never ask those questions and you wouldn’t know the answers if they were posted on your forehead. You are simply not up to speed on the issues, and therefore the only alternative I have is to minimize tea-baggers like you. And you deserve to be minimized. You are an embarrassment to this great country.

You were “royally” whupped in our last encounter — and I mean “ROYAL-ly.” Did you check out all those thumbs downs? I’m amazed you’re not embarrassed to show up here without switching to one of your other names.

felixw said:
You were “royally” whupped in our last encounter — and I mean “ROYAL-ly.” Did you check out all those thumbs downs? I’m amazed you’re not embarrassed to show up here without switching to one of your other names.

One is supposed to give those thumbs any significant attention? How fukkin’ juvenile.

Bill Adkins said:
One is supposed to give those thumbs any significant attention? How fukkin’ juvenile.

I know you don’t like votes. Too bad for you: one is coming up on Nov. 2. And, yes, it does count. You stink up the place, and you get tossed out.

Tommy Christopher said:> I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did.

I assume they thought they were mailing tea bags. Can you think of a better way to package it for shipping. …But then, you are the one drawing the dirty pictures.

zumpano said:
There is no such thing as a TEA PARTY. Until we see a (T) by a candidate’s name, let’s call them what they are: REPUBLICANS.

I guess it would be fair to call the Republicans “Republicans” but what do you call the Democrats who support the Tea Party movement?

And yes, there are some Democrats in their numbers.

Until recently, I didn’t know they back peddled on the tea bagger label. That’s how they essentially introduced themselves to the American public, and it stuck with me.

And being intellectually honest, it’s not a party – they’re Republicans, rallied beneath a Koch Industries, et al, astroturf flag.

Hey…just started reading this site and I must say that the commentary is always more illuminating than the stories themselves. Quick question though…what is ‘with’ Ted? Dude needs to give his head a shake.

Continue on…

nrgetick said:
I also love how rightwingers feels victimized when their own shit gets thrown back at them.

I don’t feel victimized, I just think you’re an asshole. It’s not that complicated.

Morgan said:
Tommy Christopher said:> I never asserted that the “vast majority” of Tea Partiers knew what it meant, just that the ones who coined it definitely did.

I assume they thought they were mailing tea bags. Can you think of a better way to package it for shipping. …But then, you are the one drawing the dirty pictures.

I’ve realized that Tommy is a complete pussy. I saw that interview he did with the NBP guy, I thought he was going to soil himself.

I guess this article is demonstrable of the “fairness” that Tommy and Steve were talking about yesterday.

It is considered “fair” to rewrite history regarding the use of the term “teabagger”. Tommy, as you are well aware (or at least you should be) the term originated when there was a call to mail teabags to congress, the second coming of the original tea party. There was NO sexual double entrende until Rachel and her gal pal Anna Marie Cocks (and yes, I am intentionally misspelling her name here) had a little giggle fest on MSNBC in an attempt to demean and diminish the tea party patriots. Anderson then jumped into the gutter along with MSNBC in an attempt to increase his ratings (back fired big time, btw).

The sick term took off among all the liberal elites, to include the President himself, again with the intent to demean and diminish the tea party patriots.

Rewriting history is not “fair”.

PS: Where is the Hinchey article I sent you yesterday? Oh, never mind, Hinchey is a democrat.

@Tft: My interpretation of the President’s clip was that he inadvertently used the shorthand they used around the office because again, it isn’t Party except in a couple of states and it really has little structure, which is why I put “leaders” and “official” in quotation marks, above.

Now, I believe he says “tea party folks” which makes “folks” the noun and “tea party” the modifier, which accurately keeps the name in lowercase.

PS: I do think Steve is fair, I think this article by Tommy proves he is not.

Doesn’t matter Magister imho. Obama used the term, intentionally or otherwise, with the full understanding that it was mean to demean and diminish.

The term “teabagger” has pretty much disappeared from the mainstream; however, it is still a favorite on MSNBC.

“Tea Bag the White House,” – this had to do with the campaign to send tea bags to the White House, and nothing to do with ball sacks.

The one sign that is linked to here, the only one I have seen, about Tea Bag the White House before they Tea Bag you is being held by a 13 or 14 year old kid…

I didn’t realize that if a few people (who most likely didn’t know what the term meant) used a term on some signs that they can be held responsible for “coining the term” or labeling an entire political party.

So, I guess by that logic, we can create a new name for Democrats based on a few signs and tee shirts, too?

http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/New-Shirts/SARAH-PALIN-IS-A-CUNT.htm
http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-is-a-cunt-t-shirts-steve-sims-kristy-benjamin-lindsey-hager-drew-forni-and-lindsay-woods-worldofwondernet.jpg
http://www.pointsincase.com/files/u40/Recent_2_1.jpg
http://zoestrauss.blogspot.com/2008/09/philadelphia-welcomes-palin.html

Hmmm… “c*nt f*ckers”?

I don’t know how much life is left in this post, but I thought that I should address another point.

Tommy Christopher said:
As I stated in my post, prior to the “movement,” the term only had one meaning.

Again, I put my Obama sign back into the yard a couple of weeks ago to show support for the President’s agenda, so I’m not a Tea Party member or sympathizer, but the “meaning” you linked is a Wikipedia disambiguation and if you just put “tea bag” through the site’s search, it takes you to an encyclopedia entry about the Lipton product.

IOW: The verb may have had only one meaning that was known to some, but according to Wiki, the noun (or the original definition) has existed since at least 1903.

PS) To save some scrolling, here’s the Wikipedia definition that Tommy linked and here’s what you get, when you just enter “tea bag”.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Absolutely. The condescending liberals need to get out more often. Eat at a Waffle House in Rolla, Missouri. Walk through a mall in Columbus, Georgia. Go to a picnic in Pocatello, Idaho. These places are where they’ll find real Americans, with (or these days, without) real jobs, making real things and providing for their families and having bowling night or just having a beer with their neighbor as the sun sets. These people are happy, and most of them don’t care what northeast progressives say about them as they sip wine and pretend that they’re better than they are. They do care that what they’ve lived and worked for, the dream that was the USA, is being hi-jacked by the stupid and the lazy, and the elitists that pander to the stupid and lazy, and this is why so many people have identified with the tea party movement.

Mr. P., very well said and absolutely on target.

Bill Adkins said:
One is supposed to give those thumbs any significant attention? How fukkin’ juvenile.

Of course it is when you are getting the thumbs down.

TfT said:
PS: I do think Steve is fair, I think this article by Tommy proves he is not.

Because I’ve been getting all technical about nouns versus verbs and uppercase versus lowercase, I thought that I’d point out that this post is labeled as “Columnists” and though I haven’t taken a real measure, I don’t think Tommy has ever posted anything with another label. Of course, I may have missed something somewhere down the line, but I believe he was contracted to express an opinion.

Magister said:
I don’t know how much life is left in this post, but I thought that I should address another point.

Tommy Christopher said:
As I stated in my post, prior to the “movement,” the term only had one meaning.

Tommy made a real stupid assumption, something that’s a big no-no if you’re trying to break into journalism anywhere besides msnbc. Most people aren’t from the northeast, most people aren’t gay, and most people didn’t know what the term “teabagging” meant before a bunch of left leaning media types brought it to their attention. (and isn’t it curious how virtually _everyone_ in the mainstream media was familiar with the term?)

TC now finds himself in the position of defending his stupid assumption using really weak logic, and by doing so, simply looks like a little kid saying, “just go ask Billy, he’ll tell ya!”

Her entire memorized vomitous mass was ridiculous. Same old GOP babbled propoganda we’ve heard for decades now. And they aren’t ashamed of it – yet. Duh.

I would ask the Repugs: “What’s it like to awaken every morning, filled with ignorance, bitterness, and hate? Knowing that this is the best you’re going to feel all day?? That you cannot, will not, erase the memories of your own lifetimes of disappointments & failures??”

Nachi said:
I would ask the Repugs: “What’s it like to awaken every morning, filled with ignorance, bitterness, and hate? Knowing that this is the best you’re going to feel all day?? That you cannot, will not, erase the memories of your own lifetimes of disappointments & failures??”

Sounds like you know all about it, son.

I disagree on just about everything Dana says but man she is so hot!!!

So did Dana actually answer the question?????? Oops, I forgot, it’s not about actually answering questions, it’s about yapping and name calling.

Maher is getting sloppy in his old age. He didn’t seem to notice when Loesch used the word “Democrat” instead of “Democratic” to refer to a member of Congress. This is a deliberate misuse of the word as glorified by John Boehner.

An example of the misuse, for those who might not be aware:

Correct use:

Democratic Senator Al Franken is quite serious about his job.

Incorrect use:

Democrat Senator Al Franken is quite serious about his job.

Boehner would emphasize the sentence as follows:

DemocRAT Senator Al Franken is quite serious about his job.

MAHER!! You had a chance to turn the tables on Loesch and you blew it! Too much pot?

There’s no such thing as the Democratic party. They’re Democrats.

@hgovernick: I don’t know your affiliation and your sentence construction appears correct, but as a member of the Democratic Party, I’m a Democrat and always have been. Sure, I’ll agree that calling the party by another name isn’t correct, but all this Democrat v. Democratic stuff has always struck me as Republican codespeak. Like the early use of “teabagger”, it’s a joke that few people get.

IMHO

I’d like to see your research on the origins of the “teabagger” term being knowingly used in the derogatory sense by Tea Partiers. Or is this something you reasoned out yourself and are presenting here as fact? If so, just stick to writing summaries of political shows and keep your brain farts to yourself.

I’d like to see your research on the origins of the “teabagger” term being knowingly used in the derogatory sense by Tea Partiers.

“Tea bag the liberal dems before they tea bag you !!”
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-03-18-tea_bag_dems.jpg

“I’m Teabagging 4 Jesus”
http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/teabagging4jeebus.jpg

I guess you missed those signs being held up by the teabaggers themselves, huh?

Another EPIC FAIL.

ProgLib…

1) The first picture you posted holding the sign is a kid. Here’s a lightened up picture you can see clearly. (Notice it’s on a progressive website so you can’t dispute it)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×8290409

2) The second picture you posted is an OLD woman.

Do you seriously think they knew the perverted meaning of the word?

You are being ridiculous.

Nachi said:
I would ask the Repugs: “What’s it like to awaken every morning, filled with ignorance, bitterness, and hate? Knowing that this is the best you’re going to feel all day?? That you cannot, will not, erase the memories of your own lifetimes of disappointments & failures??”

I imagine it would be a lot like being you. So far, we’ve dodged that feeling.

“As for President Obama’s use of the term, I can only guess, but based on the fact that, 2 years in a row, the White House declined to reach out to the group, it doesn’t appear that he’s all that concerned about their feelings.”

Why should he? The Tea Party is comprised of the most reactionary elements of the Republican base who would never vote Democrat. Many of these folks don’t believe in evolution or science in general. Anyone who listens to Glenn Beck as many of these people do are not folks who need to be reached out to. Obama has wasted enough energy and time reaching out to the mainstream Republicans. He is right to blow off the most reactionary elements of the Republican Party.

To Bill Maher, there is a correction
The “Teabagger” slur is projection
You embarrassas your mother
Your heads in the gutter
For your brain there is no resurrection.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Absolutely. The condescending liberals need to get out more often. Eat at a Waffle House in Rolla, Missouri. Walk through a mall in Columbus, Georgia. Go to a picnic in Pocatello, Idaho. These places are where they’ll find real Americans, with (or these days, without) real jobs, making real things and providing for their families and having bowling night or just having a beer with their neighbor as the sun sets. These people are happy, and most of them don’t care what northeast progressives say about them as they sip wine and pretend that they’re better than they are. They do care that what they’ve lived and worked for, the dream that was the USA, is being hi-jacked by the stupid and the lazy, and the elitists that pander to the stupid and lazy, and this is why so many people have identified with the tea party movement.

Sorry – if you’re a willing participant in allowing yourself to be duped by “stupid” – then mockery is called for:

The deadly mistake is for the Reich wing to assume unqualified and re-branded republicans, now calling themselves Teabaggers, with their very own questionable backgrounds, no experience, personal debt running on a platform that makes absolutely no real-world sense could actually beat out semi-competent Republicans for the nomination. O’Donnell, Miller, Angle, Palin, Palidino – all to a fault – are the most ignorant Americans the GOP could find – they are meat puppets for the Corporate Citizen that owns the Teaparty – Koch Bros./GOP and in addition to being unstable mentally – have no record of being able to participate in government at any level outside the Fox Propaganda campaigning that comes as part of the Party Pack for being an elected Republican. The Democrats need to run on what they are doing to fix the 8 years of Bush tyranny and the 30 years of GOP failed policies. The hate and fear campaigning fades in the light of truth and facts – stop playing the emotional propaganda game waged by Fox/Faux Newz.

Patrick Henry said:
Mr. P., very well said and absolutely on target.

What got lost in the Teabager discussion is – her views were based on falacies spread by the Republican Propaganda machine – and she could not adequately validate her position – without the usual Hannity hyperboyle and non-sequiter reasoning of someone whom believes in the dark – as in – faith will answer the questions that all Republicans are looking for – if you just vote for them. That’s incorrect. It is dumb. It is worth mocking – because no matter whom on the panel illustrated the facts to the Teabaging rep from St. Louis, she denied. As in they have no ideas on fixing the problems, they ignore the cause of the problems and they think doing nothing will make things all better (well, for some – the Corporate Citizen for whom they work, get the biggest tax breaks and ship jobs overseas). They’re running on the platform of – we’re not that bright and therefore we’re better than the guys in Washington (particularly the Democrats) – while the supported the 8 years of Bush that created this mess – and even more so, Reagan and his failed policies. To vote for stupid – or someone that you feel is “more like” you – well; Bush proved that wasn’t very wise. Palin is proof it should never happen again.

Bill Adkins said:
I don’t think I ever used the term ‘teabagger’ or if I did it was only once or twice. However, the term ‘Tealiban’ is dead on appropriate for the Tea Party. Primitive, ignorant, illogical, fanatic — Tealiban it is.

How bad are they? The Rupert Murdoch Owned NY Post is endorsing Democrat Andrew Cuomo in New York. Palidino, O’Donnell, Joe Miller (whom illegally arrested a media member in AK), Angle, Palin, Whitmann – come on Republicans – you got the bad apple in every state!!

Nachi said:
Her entire memorized vomitous mass was ridiculous. Same old GOP babbled propoganda we’ve heard for decades now. And they aren’t ashamed of it – yet. Duh.

She, like all of the Teabagin’ candidates repeat what has been written for them by Fox/Ailes/Lunt from Day 1 – and they still can’t justify their ignorance but to deny, deny, deny – it’s frightening that any reasonably educated American would seriously consider these people. Why would you want your auto mechanic to handle your accounting? These people make no sense except they can’t handle being relegated to the back seat while we try and fix the nightmare they put us in!!

JamesA1102 said:
I watched the show and that Tea Party woman was owned by the others. Every lie and distortion she told was exposed, even by the WSJ reporter.

Notice the “denial” by the teabagging front? Incredible. She was schooled on every front – these people think the world is flat and that man rode dinosaurs. That about sums it up – unfortunately for America. We must and will get out the vote to stop the ignorance that brought this nightmare on us all.

Powerslave said:
You’re kidding, right? Nobody watches them.

Actually the educated population prefers MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, TNT, Radio 1 and the thousands of other outlets that deal in realty not called Fox or Skyye (Murdock Propagandist Networks)

roxsteady said:
By the way, tell Dana the teabagger that the deficit has indeed decreased from 10% to 8.9%. Facts, as usual have a Liberal bias. Oh, and O’Donnell is going to get her fat, dumpy ass kicked. She’s down 17 points and that was before the disaster that was the debate. Both she and Angle are good with the talking points but, there’s not much going on upstairs.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43681.html

As stated earlier, Republican Propaganda newspaper in NY is throwing Paladino under the bus – that is how NUTTY they think their choice is. People have to really think about pulling the lever for someone whom lives next door, has no experience and says they’re the answer the problems – particularly when they’re party created the problems to begin with.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Sometimes, we go down to the coast, about a two hour drive. At night, I have a Coleman lantern which, these days, is a battery powered flo light, not the gas socks that my dad used, but that’s okay. I BS with the kids and their husbands / wives and we shake the sand off of the grandkids, who’d been playing on the beach all day. I love falling asleep in a sleeping bag with a kazillion stars above me.

Too many people are jealous of what I have. I don’t have much, but it makes me happy. I’m not rich, and I don’t have a college education. But I do have a mit, and I did play catch with my dad before he died. A couple of weeks ago, I visited my kid at Fort Benning when he graduated an Airborne school, and I was really happy. I’m a normal, regular American, and I don’t like what’s happening. “Hope and Change” is a catchphrase for idiots.

Voting blindly for the person that tells you want to hear is not very bright (sic G. W. Bush); thinking 18 months to fix 8 years of tryanny is also not very bright.

pyrope said:
I guess it would be fair to call the Republicans “Republicans” but what do you call the Democrats who support the Tea Party movement?

And yes, there are some Democrats in their numbers.

Where?

writer said:
Threw it in his face? Is that why Maher’s nose is so swollen?

Denial. Not just a river in Egypt. Wow.

CosmosDan said:
Yes and no. I think the Tea Party is in large part an honest expression of American’s citizens being fed up with DC Corruption. Whether the movement will be successfully manipulated by the GOP and it’s financial supporters remains to be seen. It won’t do any good to replace corrupt republicans with other conservatives who can be marginalized and/or corrupted.

I do hope that the success of the Tea Party to become a significant political player will also fire up other citizens to take a serious look at where we’re headed. There are no simple sort term solutions. It will take continued growth and involvement by citizens, in some kind of respectful and even cooperative way.

Please explain to us why you or anyone for that matter, would vote for someone who clearly does not have a clue and or answer to the problems they would elected to deal with? Just by saying – “Hey, there’s a problem” isn’t enough to deserve a vote. Republicans run on that every year – whether they are in or out of power; they’ve never offered any real solution – except give the wealthiest the biggest tax break and hope that they don’t ship their labor to third world countries (which is working great for them! Less taxes, cheaper labor – without fear of US laws, i.e., dirt cheap labor, child labor, slave labor, etc.). Besides reducing the “so-called” entitlements – unemployment insurance (for which the GOP created massive unemployment – see above), medicaid, medicare, social security, etc., it’s already been proven that the new health care reform will actually save the US money (though again, the GOP trusts the word of the Health Insurance Mafia over the country’s CBO). So, where are the idea’s teabaggin Republicans? You still have none and are running on “no” – Real America is tired of being beat down and called “stupid” – We’re not all morons – and the Palinistas from Glennbeckistan, as organized by the Koch Bros. Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, Dick Army, Heritage Foundation, Bill Kristol teabag movement for the corporate citizen – is WRONG and DANGEROUS. I’m not joining stupid this year – I’M FIGHTING IT. A vote for the Republican Party is a vote AGAINST America.

philipjames said:
I have to assume that because so many on the liberal talking heads panels are intimately familiar with the term, it was like being at home and comfortable for them until they started to gag on it themselves.

Teabaggers love snorkling too we hear. They really are opening up the tent to some great people: Witches, Beastiality, KKK, who knew!

While I’m sure the original Tea Party was made up of people who were tired of the corruption in politics in general, I have a hard time accepting that that’s what it is now.

How adorable to mock hard-working people because they were too busy working hard all they’re lives to become well versed with sexually deviant terms! Hilarious! Those seniors who fought in wars to give you freedoms, mock them too. Don’t worry, we’ll be laughing ourselves at the voting booth.

My dad didn’t sit in an office, whining about his boss. Instead, he worked two jobs, paid for his technical degree, went on to start his own business, and you know, employ people. Paid for his kids to go to college, something his parents couldn’t afford. Now, of course, we do the same. Mock us with stupid slurs all you want. I’d rather being a self-reliant ‘tea partier’ any day of the week. My car is paid for, my house is nice but affordable. You should thank the tea paritiers. We’re the ones who make sure the bills are paid while you spend as fast as you make.

Just the clueless immaturity of those that use the teabagging term/slur is very telling. High school anyone?

Tommy Christopher said:
As I stated in my post, prior to the “movement,” the term only had one meaning.

That no one knew. I had never heard of “tea bagging.” Who the f@#k knew about tea bagging before the MSM started using it to ridicule American citizens?

I disagree with her on 99% of her politics but she is so hot I would kiss her feet.

Mr. Christopher repeats the big lie that Tea Partiers originated the term “teabagger”. It was NEVER used by Tea Partiers, EVER until after Anderson Cooper used it as a slur.

James Gregory Backus said:
Please explain to us why you or anyone for that matter, would vote for someone who clearly does not have a clue and or answer to the problems they would elected to deal with? Just by saying – “Hey, there’s a problem” isn’t enough to deserve a vote. Republicans run on that every year – whether they are in or out of power; they’ve never offered any real solution – except give the wealthiest the biggest tax break and hope that they don’t ship their labor to third world countries (which is working great for them! Less taxes, cheaper labor – without fear of US laws, i.e., dirt cheap labor, child labor, slave labor, etc.). Besides reducing the “so-called” entitlements – unemployment insurance (for which the GOP created massive unemployment – see above), medicaid, medicare, social security, etc., it’s already been proven that the new health care reform will actually save the US money (though again, the GOP trusts the word of the Health Insurance Mafia over the country’s CBO). So, where are the idea’s teabaggin Republicans? You still have none and are running on “no” – Real America is tired of being beat down and called “stupid” – We’re not all morons – and the Palinistas from Glennbeckistan, as organized by the Koch Bros. Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, Dick Army, Heritage Foundation, Bill Kristol teabag movement for the corporate citizen – is WRONG and DANGEROUS. I’m not joining stupid this year – I’M FIGHTING IT. A vote for the Republican Party is a vote AGAINST America.

This is the only way a liberal wins an argument, invent things that do not exist. It’s called the straw man.

roxsteady said:
2 Things, first, if you watch Ed Schultz, and even Chris Matthews you’ll hear the term a lot. And second, you neglected to post one of the best parts of the show last night which was watching both Markos and John Legend try to school the teabagger lady on simple math. Several times she stated that we spent more money on the Sitmulus than the wars. She didn’t seem to under stand that 787 billion was less than 1.3 trillion. This made the fact that they also spoke about education an odd paradox for the bagger who was wrong on several other issues throughout the show. By the way, “New Rules” was spectacular!

We have not spent 1.3 trillion on the wars. Total expenditure on the WARS in Afghanistan and Iraq is about $720 billion. You want to lump in non-military infrastructure spending, which is not appropriate. Loesch is CORRECT in this case.

Not everything you read on the internet is necessarily true.

I will stop calling teabaggers “teabaggers” when teabaggers stop referring to the Democratic Party as the “Democrat Party” until that time, deal with it teabaggers.

Teabaggers are so sensitive, boo hoo.

Gee Maher, ask those questions to the shareholders and bond holders of the GM debacle. They lost their money but not the Unions….the unions got some ownership of Government Motors. Are you a moron on purpose?

Gee Jonathan Scott, not as sensitive as you’re gonna be on November 2nd….hehehehehehehehe

The Tea Partiers invented the term “tea-baggers”, and homosexual, ultra-intelligent liberals like Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow and David Schuster just turned it back at them? Bullshit. This is the perfect example of why letting liberals write our history books is destroying our once great country. They lie without any sense of shame or guilt, and they don’t care who gets hurt in the process. I say medicate them all at the maximum dosage. Preferably morphine. The few who still work for a living and are not on the dole – fire them. Get them all addicted (it will be easy) and make them beg in the public square for their daily fix. We can still save this country.

Jonathan Scott said:
I will stop calling teabaggers “teabaggers” when teabaggers stop referring to the Democratic Party as the “Democrat Party” until that time, deal with it teabaggers.

Democratic is an adjective, Democrat is a noun. The name of the party, on all literature, is Democrat, not Democratic. They are the Democrat Party. Besides, there’s nothing Democratic about today’s Democrat Party. Mussolini would agree.

Do these people actually want to be referred to as “Tea Party People”? How… quaint. It sounds like, oh, Cartman in his backyard, pouring tea with Clyde Frog and Polly Prissypants.

But if they don’t like it — we can just call them “radical Republicans.” That’s precisely what they are.

As for “Democrat party”… Nope. “Democratic Party.” Democratic Convention. Democratic National Committee. What is this “Democrat” literature you speak of? Oh. Right. More imaginary teabagger garbage. That stuff alone would max out all our landfills several times over. Right-winger inboxes are full of it (in both senses of the term.)

I know someone thinks it’s whipsmart-clever to shorten Democratic to something that ends in “rat,” and we all know that’s why it was done, but it’s far less clever than turning the Teabaggers’ chosen moniker back on them. Oh, and I’m in my 50s, live a very conventional life, and I knew what teabagging was — possibly because I don’t live in a bubble or in an echo chamber the way most tea-soaked radical REPUBLICANS do.

Chris098 said:
Do these people actually want to be referred to as “Tea Party People”? How… quaint. It sounds like, oh, Cartman in his backyard, pouring tea with Clyde Frog and Polly Prissypants.

But if they don’t like it — we can just call them “radical Republicans.” That’s precisely what they are.

As for “Democrat party”… Nope. “Democratic Party.” Democratic Convention. Democratic National Committee. What is this “Democrat” literature you speak of? Oh. Right. More imaginary teabagger garbage. That stuff alone would max out all our landfills several times over. Right-winger inboxes are full of it (in both senses of the term.)

I know someone thinks it’s whipsmart-clever to shorten Democratic to something that ends in “rat,” and we all know that’s why it was done, but it’s far less clever than turning the Teabaggers’ chosen moniker back on them. Oh, and I’m in my 50s, live a very conventional life, and I knew what teabagging was — possibly because I don’t live in a bubble or in an echo chamber the way most tea-soaked radical REPUBLICANS do.

What do you care what a group calls itself? You sound like an effete snob. That “rat” thing – I like that. Hadn’t thought of it before, but it seems appropriate. I mean, really, look at the people who vote Democrat. Sad bunch of beggars, aren’t they? Living off tax dollars and the hard work of others for the most part.

Harry Flashman said:
As I’ve stated before, the continuing contemptuous dismissal of the Tea Party by the left is a deadly mistake on their part. Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

They think, accurately or not, that the Tea party is a relatively small group of political activists. What they don’t count on is that huge numbers of people, while maybe not active Tea Party members, agree with the Tea Party – and they vote. The left has been short sighted in this matter from the beginning.

Oh, and Maher is a punk.

Hah… it’s funny, Harry… I just went and signed up for this site specifically to praise you for one of your other comments. In a way, I guess I’m about to praise you for this one too. And that’s ironic, because I have a feeling you and I probably disagree on just about everything politically.

I’m not at all a fan of the Tea Party movement and I AM supportive of the Democrats. I also DO think that this moment is similar to the ones about two years into the terms of Reagan and Clinton, albeit far more severe on many fronts, in that the radical shift away from the White House is more evidence of how short America’s attention span than it is any thoughtful referendum on politics.

That said, you’re quite right, the Democrats have and continue to completely underestimate the Tea Party movement. What’s more, any wonder they inspired with the power of their messages during Obama’s campaign is all but lost. They seem completely incapable of preaching effectively to their own choir. It’s sad to watch. In my opinion, it’s even a classic Greek tragedy — a protagonist undone by what were once his own virtues. I wish they would get it together again, but I’m not sure they will.

About Maher… I used to find him a little too acerbic, but I’ve grown to like him. He’s pretty raw, always relevant, and often funny. To each his own.

About the “Teabagger” term… ah, c’mon. It’s fair game. The Tea Party came up with it, not knowing any better. If they deserve some ribbing over it, so be it. Let’s have it, laugh a little, and move on.

Ha! What a little pussy Bill Maher is. He’s more than happy to flaunt his bigotry when the targets of his bigotry aren’t around. Not only is he hateful, but even worse he’s a coward. And nobody respects a bitch like that.

Of course, this dirty misogynist bigot probably thinks he has a chance to fuck Dana Loesch, which is even more pathetic.

They need to rename this site.. ALL MAHER ALL THE TIME!! Everytime that less than news worthy human spinchter spews out more waste it seems that it gets a video and commentary here with at most a hand slap but normally praise. MEDIAite or MAHERnight??

Actually, Bill and the other guy were wrong about Reagan and Chrysler. The Chrysler loan guarantees were signed into law in early 1980 by Jimmy Carter. The US government was repaid for the loan guarantees while Reagan was president.

Quote: “The early Tea Party adopters of the term are now a minuscule minority, so it now serves only to insult people who had nothing to do with the original offense, and to buttress the group’s persecution complex. It’s also bad politics. Contemptuously dismissing the Tea Partiers has only allowed them to grow, and to prevent Democrats from effectively countering them.”

Tommy Christopher is absolutely correct in this analysis. I don’t know or care who invented the term, but as one who is sympathetic toward the tea party movement I find it to be a slur aimed at me. I don’t appreciate it and I have no good will toward anyone who uses the term in any context. It just makes me want to return the insult with a big “F U c***sucker!”, which of course ends any possibility of a sensible political dialogue.

Maher is a coward. He is willing to use the foul and ugly mouth but when someone is around who may challenge him and have a brain and not the typical liberal follow the leader attitude and knows how to think for themselves and willing to speak up it is amazing how big of a coward these left wing haters are. Maher does nothing but spew hate for anyone and everyone who does not hold his beliefs.

Barney Frank is the only REAL teabagger.

Maher’s nose is swollen from telling so many outrageous lies…!

This Andrew Breitbart disciple was once described in a magazine article as “”the sweet Midwestern goth version of Laura Ingraham”.

Goth – a peasant; a crude uncouth ill-bred person lacking culture; a person of no refinement
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=goth

Talk about your backhanded compliments.

Don’t be mislead by Dana’s pretty face and personality. She is a take no prisoners pit bull just like Sarah Palin.

Chris098 said:
Do these people actually want to be referred to as “Tea Party People”? How… quaint. It sounds like, oh, Cartman in his backyard, pouring tea with Clyde Frog and Polly Prissypants. But if they don’t like it — we can just call them “radical Republicans.” That’s precisely what they are. As for “Democrat party”… Nope. “Democratic Party.” Democratic Convention. Democratic National Committee. What is this “Democrat” literature you speak of? Oh. Right. More imaginary teabagger garbage. That stuff alone would max out all our landfills several times over. Right-winger inboxes are full of it (in both senses of the term.) I know someone thinks it’s whipsmart-clever to shorten Democratic to something that ends in “rat,” and we all know that’s why it was done, but it’s far less clever than turning the Teabaggers’ chosen moniker back on them. Oh, and I’m in my 50s, live a very conventional life, and I knew what teabagging was — possibly because I don’t live in a bubble or in an echo chamber the way most tea-soaked radical REPUBLICANS do.

Okay, we’ll call you the “Jack asses” you are since you picked it for your campaign logo.

How is it radical to hope for the respect of the Constitution to return?
Radical is realistic only relative to the 180 degree agenda that some strive for against the Constitution, and is only used by that group as an adjective intended to insult. Considering this reality, Radical is a compliment.

Tea Partiers not only invented the term, they did so in order to inflict the same double entendre onto the President, the Democrats, and liberals in general, to which they now object. “…I know you lefty progressives live in an alternate universe, but, do you even know what TEA stands for? It is apparent that you and Milquetoast don’t, but, I will help out the deaf/dumb and blind: TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

zumpano said:
There is no such thing as a TEA PARTY. Until we see a (T) by a candidate’s name, let’s call them what they are: REPUBLICANS.

I agree with the first statement, not the second.

There is no Tea Party; there is a tea party movement (no caps). There are organized groups that have Tea Party in their names, and they claim to speak for the tea party movement, and they might be Republicans or conservatives or libertarians, but they do not speak for the entire movement.

The tea party movement is FOR: constitutional government, limited government, and anti-elitist. There is no specific agenda, or at least no list of specific legislation. And many if not most people who identify with the tea party movement have decided to give the Republicans a chance; but they are prepared to turn against the Republicans if the GOP falls back into some of its old habits.

The other thing: the tea party movement has had a bigger impact at the state level than the federal level.

The evolutiion of the various TEA parties has been an important step in energizing citizens to get more involved and made more people aware of the inherent dangers of elitist government effetes . I wholeheartedly support the idea and the actions. These idiots like Maher using the term”Teabagger” is meant in a slurring insulting manner, because that is the manner of the left; insulting,degrading,and demonizing all those who think differently.

ditchamerica said:
Okay, we’ll call you the “Jack asses” you are since you picked it for your campaign logo.

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When the TEABAGGERS made their debut they did so with a drive to announce their presence and power by sending TEABAGS to Congresspersons and sending TEABAGS to the White house. They also came to their TEABAGGER rallies with TEABAGS hanging from the brim of their caps and sun bonnetts. These are reasons I call them TEABAGGERS. They are TEABAGGERS.

Ditch “tea-bagger” it’s perverted therefore disgusting.

Once again, Tommy Christopher lies about conservatives. No, we did NOT INVENT the term, and it IS a slur.

This statement by Christopher is the most ironic of all:

“While it’s easy to mock a group in the abstract, Maher and Moulitsas have shown that sitting face-to-face with another human being is a completely different story. ”

I find it ironic because Tommy Christopher hangs out with all the Tea Partiers whenever he can. He comes to our blogger lounge, he comes to our parties. He goes to dinner with us. To our face he puts on this mask of nice, but then he constantly lies about us here. Why my fellow conservatives put up with him, I have no idea. Maybe they feel sorry for him.

He to seems to think it’s easy to mock a group, but face to face, he’s a completely different story. He has even admitted at a party at CPAC that what he writes here is nothing but red meat for the left, and he doesn’t even believe what he writes.

This isn’t journalism. It’sdishonesty. Mediaite can do better.

It seems to me that Mr. Christopher is trying to justify himself and other libs of having used the term “teabagger ‘ in a diparaging way.

” The idea that they just didn’t know the term’s only (at that time) meaning is belied by the fact that they obviously knew it was negative (and non-consensual), since they didn’t want it done to them, and also because it only had one meaning. ”

Who is ” they ” ? I saw ONE sign. ONE , that said “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” I also thought the ” one meaning ” was something from the Boston Tea Party as I am sure most of the Tea Partiers did.

” It was only after MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and David Shuster, and CNN’s Anderson Cooper, turned the tables on the term that Tea Partiers objected. They were perfectly satisfied to advocate the metaphoric mouth-rape of liberal men, women, and children, but had the nerve to become indignant when the insult boomeranged on them. ”

Right. People wearing tea bags and calling themselves teabaggers were hip to the sexual meaning of it but too stupid to see how others who do not agree, might ridicule them. And lets be real. What made it so funny to the libs was the ignorance of the Teapartiers to the sexual meaning of the term. Calling someone a dick after they called you one is not funny. But if the person answers to the name dick and is wearing a dildo ?

I also noticed all his links go back to his own articles. One linked to a Dave Weigel article where he links to a guy who checks wikipedia. The guy says Wiki has a story abut the roots of the teabag movement. And one story says some knew about the sexual meaning of teabagging.

The problem is I checked the link there and saw nothing about it. Now it might have been there at one time because we all know Wiki is ” the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. “

One term is missing from the keywords for this article. That is, of course, “LIBTARD.”

Funny thing is, Maher brought up the GM bailout and then wondered why the Tea Party was complaining about it. Instead of focusing on all this childish name calling, how about looking at the facts and determining whether Obama bailing out GM (remembering that Reagan bailed out Chrysler before him) was the best thing for the country.

The Chrysler bailout may have saved the company, but it did nothing, after all, to stop Detroit’s long, sad decline. The UAW dealt the final blow. Reagan, bless his little heart, did nothing but prolong the long strangulation of Chrysler by the union thugs that killed them. Beholding more to congress than to the realities of building American cars, the UAW killed Chrysler, GM, and most of MI, thus far.

While I believe that the tea party is doing nothing but, dividing the republicans and are too extreme for my taste, Dana Loesch is one of the smartest and most intelligent tea partiers out there. I’ve seen her make her case numerous times on CNN. She really does her homework, unlike the cluess foursome of Palin, Bachmann, Angle, or O’Donnell, who constantly talk out of their butts. I don’t agree with Dana the majority if the time, but I do respect her for her knowledge of the issues.

As I’ve stated before, the continuing contemptuous dismissal of the Tea Party by the left is a deadly mistake on their part. Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

They think, accurately or not, that the Tea party is a relatively small group of political activists. What they don’t count on is that huge numbers of people, while maybe not active Tea Party members, agree with the Tea Party – and they vote. The left has been short sighted in this matter from the beginning.

Oh, and Maher is a punk.

Teabaggers make the Nazis look like moderates. Sorry, but leave your plastic looking bimbos at home, Dittoheads. You boys are so out of touch, it’s funny. No wonder the whole world laughs at the U.S.

Mr.Papshmer says:
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Harry Flashman said:
Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

Absolutely. The condescending liberals need to get out more often. Eat at a Waffle House in Rolla, Missouri. Walk through a mall in Columbus, Georgia

It’s you lazy-minded Reaganazis and Dittoheads that need to get out more. Open your closed minds. Stop berating and treating your women like garbage. Stop fighting for even more tax breaks for lazy, out-of-touch Republicans. Oh, and stop mooching off the rich, liberal blue states, hypocrites. Beggars can’t be choosers, conservatives.

God you boys are foolish and ignorant.

felixw says:
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If you took the name-calling away from the “progressives,” there isn’t much left.

Don’t you have a wife or daughter to call a worthless, good for nothing Feminazi, conservative windbag?

What makes you ignorant boys so lazy-minded and hateful? Shitty parents, or do you boys just HATE your country? LOL

Harry Flashman said:
As I’ve stated before, the continuing contemptuous dismissal of the Tea Party by the left is a deadly mistake on their part. Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

They think, accurately or not, that the Tea party is a relatively small group of political activists. What they don’t count on is that huge numbers of people, while maybe not active Tea Party members, agree with the Tea Party – and they vote. The left has been short sighted in this matter from the beginning.

The Tea Party are lunatic fringe extremists. “Middle America” does not identify with them any more than they identity with similar (and overlapping) groups like the Ku Klux Klan.

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“Bill Maher let one go towards the end of the show”???

He “let one go” right after introducing Dana Loesch and she basically asked him to not use it and from then on it was a non-issue on the show. Why is this even a news story on this website???

This whole thing should be written up just the same as the old rhetorical question, if a tree fell in a forest would anyone hear it?

MEDIAite, find some real news.

tegeagent007 said:
Dana Loesch is one of the smartest and most intelligent tea partiers out there. I’ve seen her make her case numerous times on CNN.

When collective barganing rights was brought up dana told Paul Begala ‘Collective bargaining is not in the Constitution and so it isn’t a right.’

The tea party is supposed to be about getting the government off your back and yet she fully supports the bill that was passed ilegally by scott walker and his gang of minions that allowed the government to crush the rights of workers.

“All things considered, it was a winning moment for Loesch, who was a good sport about it while nearly scoring a bizarre sexploit with Maher. ”

All things considered, it was a whining moment for Loesch, and Maher humorously “apologized” ONE TIME for the incident, then continued using the term “teabagger” afterward.

Montecore said:
When collective barganing rights was brought up dana told Paul Begala ‘Collective bargaining is not in the Constitution and so it isn’t a right.’

The “right” to invade countries which have not declared war on us is not in the Constitution either.

The “right” of U.S. corporations to usurp the natural resources of other countries with covert CIA assistance is not in the Constitution either.

The “right” to choose NOT to go to school as a child is not in the Constitution either.

The “right” to have clean water is not in the Constitution either.

There are so many things NOT in the Constitution which are nevertheless a part of our everyday way of life, that for Loesch to make such an asinine statement reveals the depth of her stupidity.

tegeagent007 said:
While I believe that the tea party is doing nothing but, dividing the republicans and are too extreme for my taste, Dana Loesch is one of the smartest and most intelligent tea partiers out there. I’ve seen her make her case numerous times on CNN. She really does her homework, unlike the cluess foursome of Palin, Bachmann, Angle, or O’Donnell, who constantly talk out of their butts. I don’t agree with Dana the majority if the time, but I do respect her for her knowledge of the issues.

Research for acquiring her “knowledge” of the issues need go no further than the website of this idiot:

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/

Biscuit said:
As I’ve stated before, the continuing contemptuous dismissal of the Tea Party by the left is a deadly mistake on their part. Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

They think, accurately or not, that the Tea party is a relatively small group of political activists. What they don’t count on is that huge numbers of people, while maybe not active Tea Party members, agree with the Tea Party – and they vote. The left has been short sighted in this matter from the beginning.

Oh, and Maher is a punk.

Teabaggers make the Nazis look like moderates. Sorry, but leave your plastic looking bimbos at home, Dittoheads. You boys are so out of touch, it’s funny. No wonder the whole world laughs at the U.S.

Although I agree wholeheartedly with everything you’ve said, I would add a qualifier to this statement:

“Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.”

Unfortunately, the values the Tea Party espouses are only the cleverly crafted talking points of the wealthy Republican puppet masters financing and “educating” the Tea Party movement. Where the left blunders (besides not taking them seriously enough) is not having an equal and opposite mobile campaign with which to combat the deceitful practices of the Tea Party.

Biscuit said:
Mr.Papshmer says:
October 16, 2010 at 1:54 pm Mr.Papshmer(Quote)
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Harry Flashman said:
“Middle America identifies with the values the Tea Party espouses, and that’s where the left blunders.

Absolutely. The condescending liberals need to get out more often. Eat at a Waffle House in Rolla, Missouri. Walk through a mall in Columbus, Georgia”

It’s you lazy-minded Reaganazis and Dittoheads that need to get out more. Open your closed minds. Stop berating and treating your women like garbage. Stop fighting for even more tax breaks for lazy, out-of-touch Republicans. Oh, and stop mooching off the rich, liberal blue states, hypocrites. Beggars can’t be choosers, conservatives.

God you boys are foolish and ignorant.

Your words of wisdom are ricocheting off deaf eardrums. I have relatives in a very small, rural, ultra-conservative Missouri town. I talk with folks in the town whenever I visit. I eat lunch at the Senior Center. I shop at the only grocery store in town there. The town has an “Eagle’s Lodge” where patriots gather for drinks and food.

These people believe the President is a Muslim. Why? Because they get their news from Fox and affiliates. Most of what these people believe about the present administration is entirely based on FEAR. These are good people who are being manipulated by corporate interests into voting for politicians who will further serve corporate interests. They are being brainwashed into turning against their own country without knowing that is what is happening.

But…but…..Dana Loesch is a Teabagger and a damn good one if ya don’t mind me saying so. I don’t see what her problem is. She puts the bag in tea bagger!

Armageddon T Thunderbird said:
But…but…..Dana Loesch is a Teabagger and a damn good one if ya don’t mind me saying so. I don’t see what her problem is. She puts the bag in tea bagger!

your mom didn’t complain when i shoved my balls in her face

obama changed his american name to a muslem name in college for a real reason . he’s a muslem .

THE MAN said:
obama changed his american name to a muslem name in college for a real reason . he’s a muslem .

And you’re a Martian.

Women in this country have fought for what equality we have. At 66, I expect the women who do gain some power and a place at the national microphone will prove we deserve to be there. At a time when fewer woman are being elected to the Congress and the Senate, every woman counts. That said, the most notable Democrat is Hilliary Clinton, a woman to admire and respect. As a fan of the 2 party system I waited to see what Republican women of note would appear. What a disappointment. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin. Michelle Bachmann, Sharon Angle, wow, they must have cleaned out one whole psychiatric ward. Are they done yet? Nope. I tuned in the Bill Maher show and lo and behold, another lunatic!. Dana Loesch. New commentator? Right! Another Republican female whose elevator does not reach the top floor. She was a waste of time and space on the Maher show. Wow, she called him on his use of the term “tea baggers”. That was her main accomplishment. Waste of space. That’s a headline? She’s not too bright, slow on the uptake and she’s a news analyst? Go away honey, you’re not ready for prime time or the big leagues.

Dana Loesch is another in a long line of right wing “tea bagging morons”—who are self proclaimed “Constitution loving experts “—who made a glaring misstatement of facts that showed her stupidity. When she said: “the right of a union to collective bargaining” is not listed in the Constitution—and by her logic it didn’t exist, of course she was dead wrong.

It called to mind the utter lack of knowledge of the Constitution by another ranting right wing tea bagger, who, boldly challenged someone else she was debating, “to prove that there was a clause in the Constitution about the separation of church and state”. Mercifully that remark, exposed her ignorance and she lost the election.

If its one thing the founders understood it was the hubris of human nature and in their letters; and the Federalist they talked about that very thing. And wrote the Ninth Amendment that speaks to that very issue. The ninth amendment reads: The enumeration (listing) in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed (understood) to deny or disparage (dispute) others (rights) retained (held) by the people.

To paraphrase the letters they exchanged on the subject in modern English…Madison to Jefferson: Tom, ya know down the road there is going to be some dumb ass that will say that if it ain’t listed as a right, it ain’t a right, so we had better spell it out for them—that if it ain’t listed—it’s still a right. Jefferson to Madison: Yup! I hear ya Jim, there are a lot of stupid people out there. I think we’d better add a ninth amendment…Problem is—those right wing “lovers” of the Constitution have either—never read the Constitution or—lack the comprehension to understand it.

So to clarify it even further—A “right” doesn’t have to be listed as a “right” to be a “right”. Because—in the first place—people’s rights are from their creator and are infinite and limitless, therefore its impossible to list them all. And in the second place peoples rights, can’t be written in or out of the Constitution by the government—if they do no harm—because they are “unalienable” anyway.

So I’d like to say on the record what I shouted at the TV: “YES IT IS YOU DUMB-ASS!”
Too bad I can’t make it loud enough for her to hear! But, she probably wouldn’t get it anyway!
People like her seldom do.

The term “real American” is very stupid and condescending. Can you imagine what you might say if the term was first adopted by those that currently don’t fall in that ridiculous definition?  What would you say if somebody said “A real American is only somebody who lives in a big city who is University educated, eats fine food, keeps very physically fit, rejects institutional religion and would never own a gun”

what, what a complete idiot.  this guy sounds like a sound bite from a rick perry commercial.  the only ‘real’ about you is your delusion.  waffle houses! 

when i was playing halo with 14 year olds.

ha!  awesome.  your intellect seems best suited for the video world. 

and, yeah, the 60+ crowd no doubt didn’t know the meaning, but everyone else did.  you, in your video game dungeon aside.

teabaggers deserve having their aggressive, loud attitude hurled right back at them.  they are the ugly fringe no matter what you want to call them. 

Bunch of dumb bunnies, Teabagging is a term that was invented, and promoted by gay men, from way back when.  The film director John Waters coined the term in his film Pecker. It is the consensual, or non consensual act of placing a man’s testicles on the face of another person. An act, and term, that the tea party frauds did not create, but inferred from the use of tea imagery, to their chagrin.