‘I Don’t Recall’: Ivanka Trump Claims She Can’t Remember a Whopping 30-Plus Times At Fraud Trial
Former First Daughter Ivanka Trump claimed she couldn’t remember things a whopping 30-plus times from the witness stand — and that was all before the lunch break.
Former President Donald Trump was the star attraction Monday at his trial in the fraud case brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James and presided over by Judge Arthur Engoron. He took the stand after a week in which both former co-First Sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. took the stand.
On Wednesday, it was Ivanka’s turn to testify in person after several unsuccessful attempts to get out of it by pleading “undue hardship.”
Reporters from MSNBC were in the courtroom, and on Wednesday’s edition of MSNBC’s Chris Jansing Reports, legal analyst Lisa Rubin told anchor Chris Jansing that Ivanka didn’t divulge much, but called it a “remarkably effective” interrogation for the prosecution anyway:
CHRIS JANSING: Lisa, this is the first time you’ve been able to come out of court since the last break. What’s happening inside there?
LISA RUBIN: We are seeing an Ivanka Trump, who, as you know, Chris, doesn’t remember much. But I want to go against what some folks are saying as a conclusion about that.
This is actually been remarkably effective testimony for the attorney general, not because of what Ivanka Trump says, but because in sitting there, they are able to show her a number of documents that she is on and use them as evidence in the case and build a narrative.
And the narrative goes something like this. The Trump organization was not able to obtain financing for a number of its deals on terms they found acceptable to them. Why? Because Trump was a credit risk and commercial real estate lenders and private equity firms and all sorts of other people who might have loaned him money ran away.
Then Jared Kushner introduced Ivanka Trump to a woman named Rosemary Levick, who was a banker in the private wealth management group at Deutsche Bank. And the narrative that the attorney general wants the judge to see is that again and again and again, Ivanka Trump was involved in deals where they couldn’t obtain financing from other sources on favorable terms.
So they went to Deutsche Bank, whose private management group was willing to lend to them on two conditions. And the conditions were this will give you a lower interest rate and one that you like. But you got to give us a personal guarantee that you can cover the principal and the interest on the loan, as well as the operating income of this asset that you’re about to operate.
And on top of that, you’ve got to meet a minimum net worth requirement of at least 2 to $3 billion. And Ivanka Trump had an email with a gentleman named Jason Greenblatt, who was a lawyer at the Trump Organization that she was showed. And in it, she basically says this is as good as it gets. And then Greenblatt responds, “But what about the net worth requirement? That’s going to be an issue for us.”.
And Ivanka says, the gist of her response is “absolutely. But we knew that.”
And so I think this has been a tremendously effective couple of hours for the attorney general’s office, although you wouldn’t know it by sitting in the courtroom and listening to her say again and again — politely, as always — I don’t recall.
Watch above via MSNBC’s Chris Jansing Reports.