Martha MacCallum Battles Sen. Coons: Don’t Both Kavanaugh and Ford ‘Bear the Burden’ to Prove Credibility?


Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum had a spirited debate with Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) about remarks he made about Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

In the wake of the allegations made against Kavanaugh, Coons said Monday that he believes the SCOTUS has the “burden” to disprove them at Thursday’s hearing instead of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford or Deborah Ramirez.

Well, MacCallum had some questions for the Democratic senator.

“Since when in this country is that the way this works?” MacCallum asked.

Coons responded by clarifying that this isn’t a “criminal trial,” saying “neither” Kavanaugh nor Ford should “be on trial” at the hearing, but insisted he “has the challenge of persuading” members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“And so does she, correct?” MacCallum chimed in. “She also has the same challenge.”

The senator repeated that Kavanaugh still has “the challenge,” adding that Ford has “nothing to gain” from her testimony since her accusation has led to harm to her and her family and that her accusation is “credible.”

“Don’t they both bear the burden of proving their own credibility?” MacCallum asked. “And why would you walk into this situation having already decided that she’s credible, what you just said, and that you don’t think he is? How could you already be at that point?”

Coons replied by insisting that he has repeatedly called for “evidence” from the FBI’s own questioning of additional alleged witnesses and the letters in support of Kavanaugh. He added that he doesn’t know what “decision” the committee will make.

“But you already made your decision!” MacCallum reacted. “You said that she is credible. So you have already made your decision on that. Is that correct?”

“Martha, I made my decision to vote against Kavanaugh based on his legal jurisprudence,” Coons answered. “Based on my questioning of him about presidential power. That’s a decision I reached last week before this became-”

“You’re not answering my question about whether or not you have already decided that she’s credible,” MacCallum told him. “The president just said he’s going into this with an open mind. He said he could change his mind about Judge Kavanaugh tomorrow. So I don’t really see much of a point to the whole exercise if that isn’t the way everybody feels on both sides.”

Watch the clip above, via Fox News.

Editor’s note: This post initially identified Coons as a senator from Connecticut. He represents the state of Delaware.

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