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Chris Matthews: Was Obama Fiddling While Rome Burned?

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Someone apparently designated this the weekend for liberal media types to come out against President Obama. And did they ever. On Sunday Paul Krugman and Tom Friedman had some harsh words for the president. In this week’s Newsweek former Salon Slate (duh!) head Jacob Weisberg has penned a piece titled ‘Obama’s Moral Cowardice.’ And in his column Sunday Frank Rich questioned whether Obama had “any feeling for what has happened to our country during the seven-and-a-half-year war whose “end” he was marking.” Ouch.

And then there was Chris Matthews on Sunday questioning whether the President had been fiddling while Rome burned.

Says Matthews: “He should have been focusing on the economy, instead he was focused on making history with health care.”

Howard Fineman concurs: “You get the sense he was reaching for history and taking the extra credit courses. This in an overacheiving guy, this is a guy whose chief of staff said ‘never let a crisis go to waste.’”

“Was he fiddling while Rome burned?” questioned Matthews. Whether or not he was, it certainly makes for a great attack ad tagline. Watch below.

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  • Big Eddie

    Hey ! don’t pick on our little puppy B.O. … He’s a good dog . … Yes , he is .

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Poor Chris, his tingle has gone away.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    Chrissy, say it isn’t true! Snookie is tweeting John McCain. Obama, your kingdom is crumbling.

  • The Real Royal King

    There is a point here, to be sure, but there is another point. Republican obstructionism for the sake of obstructionism itself would still have thwarted the recovery. The Republicans haven’t the slightest bit of concern for people out of work and people losing their pension plans. While those of us who are moderates, progressives and liberals, it is well and good we beat up on ourselves, but let’s not forget that the Republican “leadership” is beating off whilst Americans suffer.

    WHEN’S O’BECKERHEAD’S NEXT “LIARS’ AND HERETICS’ REVIVAL”?
    AND, WHERE AND WHEN BEST TO CO-OPT ANOTHER’S NAME AND ESSENCE?
    I’M THINKING BETHLEHEM AROUND THE NEXT CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL,
    AIM FOR THE TOP AND ASSUME NOTHING LESS THAN CHRIST’S REAL PRESENCE.

  • aztex

    Ignorance is bliss there The Real Royal King; Democrats have a super majority and do not need one Republican vote to pass ANYTHING. Who’s playing politics? The intellectually juvenile political mindset on the left is mind boggling.

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  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    President Obama really had no choice but to push through health care reform. He had made it a central issue in his campaign and every time Hillary cautioned that you can’t just wave a magic wand, he promised that he would get it done. Perhaps he thought that if he followed through on his major promises, the Obamakids would stay by his side and he’s new enough to politics, he may not have realized that so many of them were there because he was cool.

    With that said though, I also have to caution that the media tone regarding the economy often becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Much hay was made about President Bush telling people to shop as a patriotic gesture in the days after 9/11, but that’s really the only way to keep the economy growing. If people sit on their pocketbook because they’re scared or they think things may get worse, then the economic engine quits turning and the hole just gets harder to escape.

  • The Real Royal King

    aztex said:
    Ignorance is bliss there The Real Royal King; Democrats have a super majority and do not need one Republican vote to pass ANYTHING. Who’s playing politics? The intellectually juvenile political mindset on the left is mind boggling.

    That canard died last year. Sorry you missed the funeral.

    WHEN’S O’BECKERHEAD’S NEXT “LIARS’ AND HERETICS’ REVIVAL”?
    AND, WHERE AND WHEN BEST TO CO-OPT ANOTHER’S NAME AND ESSENCE?
    I’M THINKING BETHLEHEM AROUND THE NEXT CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL,
    AIM FOR THE TOP AND ASSUME NOTHING LESS THAN CHRIST’S REAL PRESENCE.

  • JimBob

    Real Royal Pain in the ASS, you are one boring
    PAIN IN THE ASS !!!!

  • aztex

    Just heard a local conservative talk radio host say that burning the Koran wasn’t Christian. Excuse me, tell me one morsel of Islam that is Christian. Muslims are the single largest contingent of Kool-Aid drinkers in history. This is a belief that praises those who can lie and get away with it. I give you Barack Hussein Obama.

  • aztex

    House Senate
    Democrats 255 57
    Independents 0 2
    Republicans 178 41
    Vacancies 2

    Like I said, ignorance is bliss. It will take Democrats or Independents to change sides in order to override any leftist legislation.

  • The Real Royal King

    aztex said:
    tell me one morsel of Islam that is Christian

    Along with the Jews, we are all children of Abraham. Jesus is a prophet in Islam, and Mary is given an honored place. That’s pretty fundamental. You don’t know anything about Islam, do you?

    WHEN’S O’BECKERHEAD’S NEXT “LIARS’ AND HERETICS’ REVIVAL”?
    AND, WHERE AND WHEN BEST TO CO-OPT ANOTHER’S NAME AND ESSENCE?
    I’M THINKING BETHLEHEM AROUND THE NEXT CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL,
    AIM FOR THE TOP AND ASSUME NOTHING LESS THAN CHRIST’S REAL PRESENCE.

  • jk76

    They thought they would shove the stimulus through, the economy would recover as it normally does since it goes up and down, then they take credit. That’s what that was about. As a side bonus, they could overwhelm the country’s finance.

    They will still take credit in the next 2 years as jobs naturally increase…if it seriously doesn’t improve or gets worse, they will have made a huge mistake, and I’ll be laughing. Midterms are a check, it’s 2012 that’s up for grabs.

    Professional left are just people who are bitter, obnoxious, and never satisfied. Matthews has proven himself recently as uninformed and sometimes just plain stupid. I sometimes wonder if he is in touch with news, so I’m never surpised with his questions.

    In the end, Obama’s vision for the country doesn’t match most people’s (or Constitution) no matter how “nice” it is.

  • felixw

    More in-fighting on the Left. All of the MSNBC hosts has taken pot shots at Obama during the last few weeks. It must help their ratings, so they are now doing more of it. This may make MSNBC more interesting to watch — the network has been awfully predictable in recent years — but won’t help the Democrats at all.

  • Pablo

    Magister said:
    Perhaps he thought that if he followed through on his major promises, the Obamakids would stay by his side and he’s new enough to politics, he may not have realized that so many of them were there because he was cool.

    Raging against the machine is easy. Being The Man is hard.

  • Pablo

    The Real Royal King said:
    Jesus is a prophet in Islam, and Mary is given an honored place. That’s pretty fundamental.

    It isn’t fundamental Christianity.

  • FearMonger

    “WAS” is past tense… the ‘fiddling’ continues in the present as The Prez whines about his mean ol’ critics and the LSM second guesses his decisions that THEY cheered for every step of the way. Boy it’s RICH for them to call him “TONE DEAF” when THEY’RE the ones who have been singing the sirens song that has led him this awful fate.

    You know what happens when you let somebody believe they are RIGHT 100% of the time???? They start to believe it. Obowma passed the ‘deluded’ stage many moons ago and has been enabled by pukes like Matthews the whole time. Now the reaping has begun and they wonder out loud ‘how did we get here’.

    To use Bill Maher’s words…. YOU “DRAGGED US” HERE!! We fought you TOOTH AND NAIL but you and your misread ‘mandate’ insisted that we wind up RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW so….

    take your medicine and stfu. You have nobody to blame but YOU.

    btw.. about the ‘mandate’…. NOBODY gave (D)’s a mandate to drive up the debt exponentially. Many of the (blue dog) (D)’s ran on conservative pricipals of fiscal responsibility and smaller gov’t. THAT”S part of the reason why so much of BO’s agenda has run into trouble even with the huge majority enjoyed by his party. They strongarmed those reluctant moderate (D)’s and now they don’t want to face the music.

    But like BO himself said….”That’s what elections are for.” You betcha. If you guys had listened EVEN A LITTLE BIT to the concerns of We The People you might have avoided this tsunami. Instead you forgot who you work for and told us to sit down and shut up.

    This is a REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. Next time maybe you’ll remember that when you start talking about a ‘mandate’ out of one side of your mouth while you simultaneously thwart the Will of The People out of the other.

  • WideAwakeNow

    Whether he was fiddling or not while Rome burned.. ..you got exactly what you voted for. Obama is a severe left wing progressive liberalist of the liberals democrat and if any one with any sense at all had listened to him, taken him at his word ..and oh ..say….actually VETTED him…………..you’d have known exactly where he stood and what he would do as POTUS.

    People do generally get the leaders they deserve. It’s my prayer that enough people have finally woken up to deserve a better president next time around.

  • The Royal Court Jester

    Real Royal King spins lies fast and loose
    Ignorance of the facts is no excuse
    At best he’s a pest
    I suggest mouse arrest
    Or banish him away as a recluse

  • valkyrie101

    CM is a fool.

  • Moderate

    The media placed Obama on a tall pedistal, now they are chopping it down.

  • Fubo Jones

    The next few month are gonna be FUN!

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  • Dave Richards

    jk76 said:
    They thought they would shove the stimulus through, the economy would recover as it normally does since it goes up and down, then they take credit. That’s what that was about. As a side bonus, they could overwhelm the country’s finance. They will still take credit in the next 2 years as jobs naturally increase…if it seriously doesn’t improve or gets worse, they will have made a huge mistake, and I’ll be laughing. Midterms are a check, it’s 2012 that’s up for grabs. Professional left are just people who are bitter, obnoxious, and never satisfied. Matthews has proven himself recently as uninformed and sometimes just plain stupid. I sometimes wonder if he is in touch with news, so I’m never surpised with his questions. In the end, Obama’s vision for the country doesn’t match most people’s (or Constitution) no matter how “nice” it is.

    The economy will recover when the government gets the hell out of the way.

  • RazorsEdge

    Depends on ones definition of “while Rome burned” Matthews. If that means low popularity, shrinking poll numbers. loss of ‘political power’, Electorate favortism towards GOP then maybe yes.

    Clear and simple evidence is that not one Democratic House candidate/incumbant for November 2010 is running a campaign ad promoting Hcare reform. Not one according to Politico.

    Democrats run away from health care

    However you view Hcare reform it was Landmark legislation. So much time, energy and focus was spent on it. I would say more thought and energy than Stimulus or reacting to a sick economy, by far. If the electorate thought Hcare should be the focus or how Hcare reform was ultimately reformed and something positive,

    There would be Ads promoting Hcare reform. Lots of them.

    Maybe that’s what Matthews meant as ‘while Rome burns”. Campaign promises or not. Like it or not, “Rome” wants a better economy. It’s not good enough to just blame someone else. People want results, you at least need to couple that with actions that CONVINCE that it will be good for the economy or that all is being done.

    Rome apparently is not convinced.

  • OxyCon

    Uh hum…Obama was “dribbling” while America burned.

  • MiddleRoader

    Magister said:
    the Obamakids would stay by his side and he’s new enough to politics, he may not have realized that so many of them were there because he was cool.

    I don’t believe they voted him in because he was cool. He offered something new and fresh instead of the same old same old. One of the reasons Hillary was past over. She was just more of the same. Either way, perhaps it brought more of the younger ones into the equation. Interest of political knowledge seeking and voting. Hey, they might even at some point vote republican. That is if the republicans can come up with something to offer. They haven’t so far but maybe they’ll get a light bulb moment. I wouldn’t hold my breath though.

    felixw said:
    More in-fighting on the Left. All of the MSNBC hosts has taken pot shots at Obama during the last few weeks. It must help their ratings, so they are now doing more of it. This may make MSNBC more interesting to watch — the network has been awfully predictable in recent years — but won’t help the Democrats at all.

    You people on the right have been pissing and moaning that MSNBC and the left look at him like the messiah. So now they call him out on some things and you call it in-fighting. WTF is it you people want? You don’t even know. You can’t get past your hatred long enough to give credit where credit is do. We voted him in, there should be criticism from his voters if need be. You guys will back your leaders up blindly. Democrats appear to have no backbone sometimes but that is because we use our brains individually rather than blindly follow the pied piper.

  • AntiHyperbole

    So I guess Chris Matthews is a racist now. Add to that Krugman, Freidman, and Rich and it seems that the leaders of the left wing intelligentsia crowd are all now full blown Klan members. Weird.

  • NORBIT

    LOL!

    Guess it’s back to the old days Chris, where the only chills & thrills running up your legs was from Joe Klein getting ‘randy’ under the table!

    LOL!

    …and he’ll have effectively exiled the Dems from power for the next 50 years!
    Maybe that was the Hope & Change he was talking about!!!???

    LOL!!

  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    @MiddleRoader: I agree that most of those whom I referred to as “Obamakids” supported his candidacy because they agreed with him and he was representative of their beliefs. I also think that many of them would still support him and his agenda today, but the trendiness factor on politics has receded and from what I see, I’d say that the majority of them are not involved.

  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    Note: I mean the trendiness factor has reduced among the young, the left and what Matthews has called the President’s netroots. There has been a certain “trendiness” on the right for the past year, but it’s largely due to the Tea Party and how they’ve successfully organized and motivated portions of the existing Republican base.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Bennett/1145658544 Charles Bennett

    lol–one of the reasons I voted for him was because he reached out to many (ok-the very few) of the sane Moderates in the GOP–Dick Lugar/Bob Gates.

    Curious: what is the Right’s biggest gripe with Obama?

  • Azarkhan

    The November election will not be about Pres Obama’s race, his golf game or his inability to communicate. It will be about the fact that the majority of the American people reject Obama’s extreme left-wing policies.

  • MiddleRoader

    Magister said:
    from what I see, I’d say that the majority of them are not involved.

    I can’t/won’t disagree with you here. It’s really the way of the young for the most part. Here today and gone tomorrow with most things, especially politics. I think the majority voted because of the war. Their fear in possibly having to serve. ie: bringing back the draft. The left through that out a bit, and being that a lot of them don’t really understand politics, it was a reason to get involved. Also the factor of the possible (at the time) first black or female president. Wanted to be part of history in the making. Not good reasons, but a reason anyway.

    The other thought I have applies to adults as well. Obamas’ message was “We can make a change”. Not *he* can make a change. That requires us all, even the adults that voted him in, to stay engaged after the election. Not just throw it back in his hands, walk away and expect results. Many people vote and then walk away, expecting the govn’t to handle things for them. Then sit back and criticize.

  • MiddleRoader

    Magister said:
    There has been a certain “trendiness” on the right for the past year, but it’s largely due to the Tea Party and how they’ve successfully organized and motivated portions of the existing Republican base.

    And I suspect the same. If successful they will walk away and think their job is done.

  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    Azarkhan said:
    The November election will not be about Pres Obama’s race, his golf game or his inability to communicate. It will be about the fact that the majority of the American people reject Obama’s extreme left-wing policies.

    …and if the Democrats keep control of Congress will you not credit the President’s race, golf game or his ability to communicate and will you say that’s because the majority of Americans support him, or will you just chalk it up to the individual candidates?

  • Azarkhan

    Magister said:
    if the Democrats keep control of Congress

    The Democrats are going to lose the House. If they keep a majority in the Senate it will be so minimal as to be useless.
    Regardless, the battle will continue until Pres Obama is overthrown in 2012. The Tea Party and Sarah Palin aren’t going anywhere.

  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    @MiddleRoader: I’m more inclined to think that if the right can spin November as being successful, since they don’t have the top job, I’d expect the Tea Party sympathizers to try and claim the Republican Party, so that their preferred candidate would be favored in the primary race.

    IOW: It may not have the fire of last week, but what passes for an organization will still be there.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    All of the gossip about what Obama should be doing, shows very few know the next step in Obama’s agenda. It is best they don’t, too many Obama bashers would be around the corner waiting to bash him some more. If anyone out there is more capable than Obama of accomplishing what he has already accomplished, he would be such demand, Republicans as well as Democrats would be skipping aroung holding hands and singing America The Beautiful.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Obama is painting pictures of good things to come. A picture is worth a thousand tricky words.
    Following is what I would like Chris Matthews talk about:
    In America, when Social Security originated in 1935, it was intended to be a forced saving plan whereby the employer and the employee shared a small portion contribution to the plan, since then employers have been reneging every year by the millions, by implementing various schemes like independent contractors, piece work, outsourcing work and adapting automation to eliminate the hourly way of contributing to Social Security. Social Security in American needs to go to a system that drops the hourly way of figuring how much of production should go into the Social Security System. When they go from the hourly formulation to a produced produce or service formulation, the Social Security System will be on sound financial stability for hundreds of years to come. I hope this form travels around the globe for all labor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Andrelli/100000753300823 Nick Andrelli

    Have to wonder what happened to Chrissie Tingles.

    Just last week he was saying that 0bama was nearly “pluperfect” and he couldn’t understand why people didn’t like the man.

    Now he sounds almost like a Republican in the way he criticizes 0bama for having mis-quided priorities in his agenda.

    The fact of the matter is that 0bama should have emphasized that 3-letter word (according to Biden): J-O-B-S, from Day 1 of his presidency.

    Instead, he waited 10 months, until December 2009, before he even held a Jobs Summit (and then he didn’t invite business leaders, just union leaders). That was 10 months ago, and we haven’t seen any results on the J-O-B-S front.

    His silly stimulus bill has wasted most of that $800 billion, and nearly 2 years, and unemployment is still up at 9.6%.

    There is, of course, the discussion of whether 0bama and his people are just that incompetent, or if this is all part of 0bama’s scheme to bring “equality” to the world (i.e., make the U.S. as much of a sh–hole as all the 3rd-world countries are). Either way, having 0bama as president has been the worst thing that could have happened to this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Payne/1575261443 James Payne

    Hey Chris,

    How’s that tingle in your leg feeling? Maybe you meant tinkle ON your leg…by Obama?

  • DEFENDER-90

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  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Azarkan, control of the senate is VERY important. As long as dems control they can let Obama nominate extreme left judges. Sure the republicans could filibuster but they have refused so far. How many times could they do it and not look bad. If they control the judicial committee they can stop them before they get to a vote.

    RRK just keeps repeating the lie about obstructionist republicans because that is democrat talking point and he does what they tell him. That is why he hates Fox News. He hates that they won’t keep repeating that lie.

  • Azarkhan

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Azarkan, control of the senate is VERY important.

    Yes, but I’m not sure Republicans will win enough Senate races to take control. It is only recently that pollsters began to think the Republicans even had a chance to capture the Senate. Another month and we’ll know.

  • FearMonger

    MiddleRoader said:
    You people on the right have been pissing and moaning that MSNBC and the left look at him like the messiah

    “YOU PEOPLE”?????

    But seriously….. methinks ‘you people’ are incapable of understanding the Tea Party. They were reluctantly ‘dragged’ into political activism by leftwingers who demonize business and have repeatedly promised (threatened) to raise taxes on the most successful individuals and businesses, including the small businesses that are the lifeblood of the economy of This Great Country.

    These crazy people think that gov’t should get out of the way a la Reagan. You may disagree but their message resonates with millions. They have been discounted every step of the way and only now are the leftwingers acknowledging them. Of course they do it in their usual way…. demonizing.

    What ‘you people’ fail to understand is that they WANT to fade back into the woodwork. They rose up in protest to socialist policies with the sole intent to check this runaway government and remind them who writes their checks. Once that is done they will gladly go back to their seats on the sidelines until their Country needs them again.

    The (R) are getting the message. The (D) are paying attention now too. It’s the leftwingers who are exposing themselves for the hatemongers they are and that’s gonna be a good thing for America and the lasting legacy of the Tea Party.

    Disagree all you want…. and by all means keep calling them RACISTS. It just makes it easier to show the hypocrisy coming from the far left. . Just like that rally on 8-28….. not a damned thing for leftwingers to bitch about but they bitched anyway.

    The real racists are on display for all to see.

    Anyway, didn’t mean to rant. The Tea Party is holding our gov’t representatives accountable. That’s a good thing for everyone. When they return to the back seat some on the left will claim victory and blah blah blah but I guaran-damn-tee you they won’t forget that the Tea Party is in the car…..

    and watching the driver like a hawk.

  • timcajun

    A man with good ideas and heart, did let the right lie and twist everything for over a year and did nothing about it! The party of NO kept hate alive the whole time. Yes, it may be too late!

  • FearMonger

    Nick Andrelli said:
    Have to wonder what happened to Chrissie Tingles.
    Just last week he was saying that 0bama was nearly “pluperfect” and he couldn’t understand why people didn’t like the man.
    Now he sounds almost like a Republican in the way he criticizes 0bama for having mis-quided priorities in his agenda.

    You know, I forgot all about that. Just goes to show that people like CM are schizo and impossible to please. They also bear a HUGE portion of the blame for BO appearing to be ‘out of touch’.

    By coddling him they created the whiney joke that is our current Prez…. who calls for ‘bipartisanship’ out of one side of his mouth as he simultaneously castigates ‘the right’ out of the other side.

    The only people who think that’s how you ‘build a concensus’ are deluded idiots like Matthews.

  • notsofast

    Chris, this is straight up racism and Islamophobia on your part. You are a disgrace.

  • felixw

    MiddleRoader said:
    You people on the right have been pissing and moaning that MSNBC and the left look at him like the messiah. So now they call him out on some things and you call it in-fighting. WTF is it you people want? You don’t even know.

    Uh, I hate to point out the obvious. But there is clearly rampant in-fighting on the Left (and it won’t get any better after the November repudiation of the Democrats, coming soon to a theater near you). In recent weeks, the Obama administration has been criticized by the New York Times (for his Afghanistan policy), by Rachel Maddow (for his approach to Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell), by Michael Moore and Keith Olbermann (for the Gibbs’ ‘professional left’ comments), by the Washington Post (for not having clear top priorities), by Paul Krugman (for his economic policy), and now Christ Matthews. If you haven’t noticed it, these were the same people who were cheerleaders for Obama during the 2008 campaign.

    If you don’t like it, don’t blame me. Blame Matthews, Krugman, Maddow, Olbermann, etc. I am simply reporting on what’s happening. Of course, I can understand your anger. Your Great Leader has proven to be incompetent. We already knew he was ideologically driven, but the Left wouldn’t attack him for that. It’s his inability to rise to the demands of the job, to learn from experience, to accomplish anything of substance (other than spend borrowed money) that is now blindingly clear to most voters.

  • FearMonger

    felixw said:
    Uh, I hate to point out the obvious. But there is clearly rampant in-fighting on the Left (and it won’t get any better after the November repudiation of the Democrats, coming soon to a theater near you). In recent weeks, the Obama administration has been criticized by the New York Times (for his Afghanistan policy), by Rachel Maddow (for his approach to Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell), by Michael Moore and Keith Olbermann (for the Gibbs’ ‘professional left’ comments), by the Washington Post (for not having clear top priorities), by Paul Krugman (for his economic policy), and now Christ Matthews. If you haven’t noticed it, these were the same people who were cheerleaders for Obama during the 2008 campaign. If you don’t like it, don’t blame me. Blame Matthews, Krugman, Maddow, Olbermann, etc. I am simply reporting on what’s happening. Of course, I can understand your anger. Your Great Leader has proven to be incompetent. We already knew he was ideologically driven, but the Left wouldn’t attack him for that. It’s his inability to rise to the demands of the job, to learn from experience, to accomplish anything of substance (other than spend borrowed money) that is now blindingly clear to most voters.

    what he said

  • fill32162

    Chris Matthews > Wow!! from Tingling to Racism in less than two years > say it ain’t so! I’d bet GW is behind it.

  • Michael_T

    These journalists/commentators fail to concede that this administration (or any administration) can promote more than one issue at a time.

    How quickly they forget that it was the Republicans in the Senate that filibustered a jobs bill in early August. A jobs bill, I might add, that was deemed by the CBO to decrease the deficit by $1.3 billion over 10 years.

    So who is really “fiddling while Rome is burning”?

  • Morgan

    With his poll numbers going into a death spiral, Obama has a problem: He believes he is infallible. He has never conceded being wrong or not on the right path. Come 2012, and with his numbers down lower, there is no way he can run for a second term, only to lose. He has achieved a fantastic number of political victories (75% of which no one wanted), so he can announce in effect, “you can’t beat me—I quit.”

    That leaves him with still one problem. To do it right, he should turn the office over to his VP (that way there would be no floor fight in the convention), so the Dems will have the advantage of incumbency. . There is the problem. He has the wrong VP. Biden as much as admitted it when he was picked. Hillary should be his VP. We should watch to see how they play this.

    In fact his original mistake was not being Hillary’s VP for eight years. He might have even made a good president with the experience it would have given him. Then he could have been president for the next eight years. That would have given the Democrats sixteen straight years in control of the WH (and the Supreme Court).

    What an opportunity lost. He should have taken one for the party.

  • Morgan

    While we are at it…Obama pushed the Healthcare agenda so he could get coverage for those without insurance. He pushed that all of his first year until he got it…instead of focusing on the economy.

    Now with the economy threatening double-dip, more people have probably lost their health insurance coverage when they lost their jobs than they would have helped who were uninsured.

  • Michael_T

    Morgan said:
    With his poll numbers going into a death spiral, Obama has a problem.

    You’re following into the trap of believing the propaganda over at Fox News and on talk radio. Obama’s job approval rating is not in a nose dive or a death spiral as some have suggested.

    Yes, it’s not as high as it was back in December (47%) … but since March (46%) to September it has only fallen 3% according to the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll. This hardly constitutes the free fall those on the right would have you believe.

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  • felixw

    Michael_T said:
    You’re following into the trap of believing the propaganda over at Fox News and on talk radio. Obama’s job approval rating is not in a nose dive or a death spiral as some have suggested.

    Yes, it’s not as high as it was back in December (47%) … but since March (46%) to September it has only fallen 3% according to the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll. This hardly constitutes the free fall those on the right would have you believe.

    http://tinyurl.com/nlgfnz

    Uh, Michael, I hate to tell you this. But Obama’s approval rating was in the high 60s just 18 months ago. It is now in the low 40s. In other words, one-fourth of the voters have turned against the President in less than two years. You don’t think that is a significant decline? I am afraid you are in for a shock come November.

  • http://none pyrope

    An old B B King tune comes to mind: “The Thrill is Gone.”

  • http://none pyrope
  • http://none pyrope

    timcajun said:
    A man with good ideas and heart, did let the right lie and twist everything for over a year and did nothing about it! The party of NO kept hate alive the whole time. Yes, it may be too late!

    You have got to be out of your rabbit-assed mind.

  • MiddleRoader

    felixw said:
    If you don’t like it, don’t blame me. Blame Matthews, Krugman, Maddow, Olbermann, etc. I am simply reporting on what’s happening. Of course, I can understand your anger.

    I never said I didn’t like the criticism. I applaud them for finally getting some balls and doing so. Instead of turning a blind eye. And Lord knows the right and the only fair news station FOX questioned some things Bush…right?

    My point was, the people (sorry about the *you people* reference) on the right piss and moan about how MSNBC won’t openly question all things Obama, and now they do and you want to somehow turn that around to be a bad thing.

    And I wasn’t/am not angry. It was just an observation.

  • felixw

    MiddleRoader said:
    I never said I didn’t like the criticism. I applaud them for finally getting some balls and doing so. Instead of turning a blind eye. And Lord knows the right and the only fair news station FOX questioned some things Bush…right?

    My point was, the people (sorry about the *you people* reference) on the right piss and moan about how MSNBC won’t openly question all things Obama, and now they do and you want to somehow turn that around to be a bad thing.

    And I wasn’t/am not angry. It was just an observation.

    I will give Matthews credit. i saw most of his show on the late night rerun, and it was one of the few times I have seen a show on MSNBC in which you couldn’t predict what everyone was going to say before they opened their mouths. If Matthews continues to program shows of this sort, I will watch more often.

  • MiddleRoader

    I use to watch Scarbough (sp) Country and I appreciated his sometimes questioning of Bush. Granted I didn’t care for him on a personal basis, as far as, at times it was all about himself. But he seemed to be more fair minded than most conservatives.

  • felixw

    MiddleRoader said:
    I use to watch Scarbough (sp) Country and I appreciated his sometimes questioning of Bush. Granted I didn’t care for him on a personal basis, as far as, at times it was all about himself. But he seemed to be more fair minded than most conservatives.

    It would better for everybody, if the news commentary hosts (of whatever political affiliation) asked hard questions of all politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, and didn’t just follow a party line. On MSNBC, Matthews is better than Olbermann at this. On Fox, O’Reilly is better than Hannity. On CBS, the late Tim Russert was very good at doing this — he was a Democrat, but gave his loyalty to his viewers not to a political party.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Bad mouthing Obama and our government makes me wander just what agenda these people have that differs so much from the agenda of main street America. Most of us law abiding citizens look at some of them like we look at cop haters. Maybe they are up to something. Sounds like a natural feeling to me.
    I would rather hear an intelligent disagreement about Obama’s activities than badmouth.

  • esd2000

    I don’t understand why Chris Matthews or Howard Fineman would think health-care reform wasn’t that important. Oh now I get it. They probably have health insurance. Typical if it doesn’t affect me I don’t think it’s that important attitude. Go to FOX Matthews.

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