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CPAC Attack: Liz Glover Confronts Andrew Breitbart And Dana Loesch Over GOProud Ban

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One of the regular features of the Conservative Political Action Conference is the annual rite of the behind-the-scenes viral video kerfuffle. This year’s version features freelance Washington, DC video gadfly Liz Glover, last seen asking Newt Gingrich if he’s currently in an open marriage, confronting conservative media provocateur Andrew Breitbart over gay conservative group GOProud‘s exclusion from the conference, with a quick tag-in by Big Journalism Chief Editor and CNN contributor Dana Loesch.

One of the highlights of last year’s CPAC was the way the conference defied gay-hating organizations to stand by GOProud’s inclusion, which was winningly symbolized at the prior year’s conference when an anti-gay speaker was booed off the stage. Unfortunately, the American Conservative Union bowed to pressure in July, voting to exclude the group from CPAC 2012.

Months after that decision, Andrew Breitbart resigned from the board of GOProud over the group’s outing of a Rick Perry staffer.

It was against that backdrop that Liz Glover confronted Andrew Breitbart Friday night, in the CPAC “Blogger’s Lounge,” over gay conservative activist Cynthia Yockey‘s contention that Breitbart is “a better friend to the gay community than Barack Obama.”

RELATED: GOProud Co-Founder Explains His Stance: ‘Gay People Are Living In The Obama Economy, Too’

I was in the lounge, cursing at my computer as it continued to fail at everything, when I noticed a crowd gathered around Breitbart, and that uncomfortable disturbance in The Force when something awkward is going down. Glover was pressing Breitbart over GOProud’s exclusion, and over his split with the group (which he called “complicated”), when he began to attack Glover’s line of questioning. That’s when I grabbed my camera.

Glover defended herself from the charge that her questioning consisted of an “op-ed” by reminding Breitbart that “My stuff was on BreitbartTV last week!”

Breitbart paused, and asked, “How do you get your eyes to do the pinwheel thing?”

“That’s really sweet,” Glover replied, “picking on reporters.”

At this point, Dana Loesch tagged in, and told Glover to “act like a lady,” and that she needed to “up (her) game.”

Breitbart waded back in momentarily, then walked off, leaving Loesch to scold Glover for the “faulty premise” of her questions. While  Breitbart’s split with GOProud is arguably justified, though, the ACU’s decision to exclude them far predated the outing of the Perry staffer.

Glover stood her ground, and turned her focus on Cynthia Yockey, who wrote, for The Advocate, that LGBT equality would “come from the right.”

I first met Cynthia at my very first CPAC, and while I like her very much, this is an offensive premise, akin to saying that a reduction in violent crime will come from murderers. The right is, and has long been, the primary obstacle to LGBT equality, and even Yockey’s piece is centered on the idea that equality can only occur by begging conservatives for it:

The bad news is that regardless of this vast support from the right, LGBTs on the left have only about a year to learn the language of conservatism and persuade the conservative movement that we have an unalienable right to equality. That’s because conservatives now control a majority of state legislatures and probably will also control the White House and Congress come 2013. Passing an anti–marriage equality amendment to the Constitution in Congress and getting it ratified by the states probably will be one of the first things conservatives will do, unless LGBT folks start supporting Breitbart, GOProud, and others on the right who are making real changes in our favor.

That’s some seriously twisted logic. The entire argument in favor of gay conservatism seems to be that it’s possible, even preferable, to be more greedy than gay, to overlook bigotry and oppression in favor of your own (perceived) economic interests.

As for Breitbart, he has long supported gay conservatives, but unless his position has changed since the last time we spoke about it, he says he is “agnostic” on the question of gay marriage. Conservatives love to hide behind President Obama’s “evolving” views on gay marriage, but you could hardly make the case that Andrew Breitbart, who props up a political movement dedicated to codifying inequality, is better, no matter how many awesome parties he throws.

Here’s the clip, from Friday evening:


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  • Anonymous

    Would you say affirmative action is a method to “codify inequalities?”  Becasue I know a political party who is dedicated to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    Slimeball Breitbart is getting far too much attention here lately. Loesch is trying her best to be equally loathsome.

  • Pablo

    Glover stood her ground, and turned her focus on Cynthia Yockey, who wrote, for The Advocate, that LGBT equality would “come from the right.”

    I first met Cynthia at my very first CPAC, and while I like her very
    much, this is an offensive premise, akin to saying that a reduction in
    violent crime will come from murderers.

    Really? So California is 52% “the right”? Black Californians are 70% “the right”?

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-african-a.html

    That’s obviously, utterly ridiculous, as is your conflation of conservatives with criminals.

  • Pablo

     ”Equailty” is just one of the things we’re trying to redefine here.

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t you write about what Glover and Yockey discussed? Was mounting your high horse regarding conservative opposition to gay marriage really that important?

  • bob ross

    I want to congratulate the organizers of CPAC for another successful convention…It made everyone want to hate Republicans even more than they did last year.

  • Anonymous

    An argument could be made some conservatives are better friends to LGBTs because when an issue of fairness arises (that is actual, not hypothetical or political) they are willing to do something about it.  Democrats talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.  Using Brietbart as an example, he is a friend to many gay issues, yet at the same time he (like many) were appalled at the villainization of a beauty queen contestant who dared to have an opinion on gay marriage.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    Well done Mr. Christopher.

    Thank you for exposing what Breitbart is truly like.

  • Anonymous

    Is there any minority group you support, Pablo?  Maybe you missed the huge trial in California where Prop 8 Supporters could not produce any compelling reason to disdriminate….but, I doubt it. 

    Bigots always whine when other people seek equality

  • Anonymous

    Trust me,she doesn’t have to try very hard.  her radio show is on the air here and she makes Limbaugh sound fair-minded and well-read.

    She’s just like Breitbart in that she’s a grifter, spewing talking points she doesn’t even believe in (“act like a lady”) in order to cash a check

  • Anonymous

    sensitive much?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Edwards/588445226 David Edwards

    you should take the time to explain to everyone else what you mean

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Pebbels supports 999 pizzas and the birfhers. So there!

    He is in the minority!

  • Pablo

    No, I don’t support “minority groups”, Timmah! I support people of all stripes. No discrimination necessary.

    Is there any minority group that you don’t think needs your personal advocacy?

  • Anonymous

    I’m amazed every year that Breitbart is not sued by the thousands of people slipping on the slime which oozes from him as he walks through the lobby or blinded by running into the chip on his shoulder.  What a loathesome fellow he is. 

    It’s nice that Dana has volunteered his Salacious B Crumb as well. 

    Bretibart’s fiddling while Republicans string up gays (rhetorically, for now) says more about what attracts him to conservative (easy cash) than any deep seated belief he may have (one assumes his only real belief is money)

  • Pablo

    TIMMAH!!! SEES INSIDE YOUR MIND!!!!!

  • Pablo

    Not to the detriment of reason. Facts got you down, Timmah!?

  • Anonymous

    I take it you mean everyone that already hated Republicans before CPAC still hates them after?  What a shocker.  People who ‘hate’ do not generally have the ability to stop hating no matter the actions of the target of their hatred.

  • Pablo

     Your hatred doesn’t need any help, bob.

  • Pablo

    You can quote me espousing birtherism anytime you like, Skippy. Now, for instance.

  • bob ross

    Is this a test because that one is easy, anyone who’s being hated on…like say the American Muslims who want to do the American Dream. There’s always a group that wants to make someone out there the goat.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry I’m not sure what you mean

  • Anonymous

    mormons and protein wisdom commenters

  • Anonymous

    In yours, I see a vast emptiness, filled only with hatred of those who are different colors or creeds or sexual orientation.  What a lonely place, filled with nothingness 

  • Anonymous

    the “facts” on this issue make me positively giddy, since you’re losing the argument

  • Anonymous

    He would know.  He’s an expert in the subject

  • Pablo

    Ah, and the rest all need Timmah! Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.

  • http://twitter.com/12barbluz Lightnin’ James

    Breitbart and Loesch are following the Palin marketing model. First, establish yourself as the biggest a**holes on the right. Second, claim persecution by the ‘evil’ forces of the so-called MSM and the left when they notice what utter clowns you are. Third, count the cash the base yokels send you for being their ‘voice’.

  • Pablo

    Perhaps your imagination will improve someday. Maybe therapy would help.

  • Anonymous

    He’s strongly in favor a position, but no so much that he favors voting for people who would help the position or being mad at anyone who opposes.  Sort of like how George Wallace and Pablo favoed Civil Rights?

  • Pablo

    There’s always a group you want to make the goat, bob. You’ve got a lot of hate in you, son. More than most.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Here:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-takes-on-georgia-courts-birther-case-against-obama-its-like-dividing-by-zero/

    You are such NOT A BIRFHER you were actually defending the idiotic birfher lawsuit in Georgia.

    They could have video of the Hawaii birth, and that wouldn’t change the
    merits of this particular case at all. You should get to know what
    you’re talking about so that you don’t sound just like that which you
    despise.

    - Pebbels

  • Anonymous

    When you don’t break down the electorate by groups or race, you tend not to support one interest in particular.

    But anyway since you do look at race/orientation, etc…which minotiry groups to you support versus those you dont.

  • Anonymous

    Good point.  The group I like to use as my scapegoat in America right now is the Tea Party.

  • Pablo

    I’m not a Democrat, Timmah!

  • Anonymous

    Voting for a person like Santorum or Bachman, who speak against gays, would not be likely to advance their issues but its a disservice to think only Democrats would vote in favor of legislation that would benefit the gay community.  Same goes for minorities.  George Bush did more for minorities (at least around the word) than most Democrat Presidents, yet he was still labeled Nazi, racist, stupid – all of which was ridiculous.  The political reality in the United states the past 10-years or so that the far left have dominated the Democrats means no Republican can do anything for gays or minorities because the Democrats , the media, and liberal activist groups will attack them.   Similarly, when Democrats try to push for legislation they package it so much to the hard left the Republicans have no choice but to oppose it.  The short of it is gays would be better served if they severed their joined-at-the-hip relationship with Democrats and instead lobbied both political parties.   Demonizing Republicans gets them nothing from them, and pretending Democrats are their champions gets them nothing from them because they know they already have the gay vote.  Same goes for blacks.  Obama has done nothing for blacks because he doesn’t need to politically. 

  • Pablo

    I said I think it’s a loser, loser. But I defended due process. Same thread:

    Oh, and I’ve been hammering birthers for years.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-takes-on-georgia-courts-birther-case-against-obama-its-like-dividing-by-zero/#comment-422423325

    Exactly right. This is the one arrow in the Birther quiver that isn’t batshit crazy. I think it’s ultimately a loser, but that is for the courts to weigh in on.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-takes-on-georgia-courts-birther-case-against-obama-its-like-dividing-by-zero/#comment-422429910

    That’s not a “Birther” suit per se, as it doesn’t allege that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. It’s an argument of the definition of the term “natural born citizen”, which has never been legally defined.

    So, by your own logic, you’re a homosexual, right?

  • Pablo

    Losing it to what? Your giggling? I think not.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Whoa!

    Pebbels, you do know how that birfher lawsuit ended, do you?

    You are here, again, BSing your way through “due process” after you argued “the merits of this particular case”

    “not a birfher suit per se”

    Oh, dear… who do you think filed the stupid lawsuit? George Soros?

  • Anonymous

    CPAC took a step backwards by not allowing them at CPAC. It looks even worse because they had allowed them to speak last year. This makes it look as if the conference is regressing when it it comes to tolerance. It’s unfortunate that the Republican Party is so concerned with social issues. They could probably attract more voters if they abandoned their outdated views on social issues & focused more on fiscal policy.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    A rash of Big Drew bad behavior. The Daily Caller is probing the least crazy media.

  • Anonymous

    As I recall, you’re not a Republican either. You think they’re too liberal

  • Pablo

    Pebbels, you do know how that birfher lawsuit ended, do you?

    What part of “I think it’s ultimately a loser” is confusing you, Skippy? And are you a top or a bottom?

  • Anonymous

    ah, projection….

  • Pablo

    I’m dealing in facts, Timmah! You’re dealing in fantasy and or delusion.

  • Pablo

     Well, you’re half right. So you accomplished something today.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad someone’s finally standing up to Breitfart and Loesch’s thuggish behavior.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    Pebbels,

    Obviously you have problems reading the same tripe you wrote.

    You are such NOT

  • Grace

    Just another day in the life of a mild mannered Chicago School teacher.

  • Walt

    “People who ‘hate’ do not generally have the ability to stop hating no matter the actions of the target of their hatred.” – how ironic of a statement, Chuck since that line could actually be applied to CPAC.  After all, it is like a hate fest towards those who don’t share the same views of these far right wingers.   I think bob ross was wrong to use the word “hate” in describing how
    many other Americans feel about those who embrace CPAC’s messaging.   I think words that would be more appropriate to use would be “embarrassed,” “disgusted,” “astonished” at the level of ignorance, intolerance, and insensitivity that is always put on display at these CPACS,,, in this age.

  • Anonymous

    Chuck, which groups around the world did George help? Arms dealers? Prosthetics manufacturers? Maybe you missed the whole “I’m running for re-election at the same time Karl and I placed anti-gay equality referundums on half the states in the country”?

    I AM far left and, trust me, the Democratic Party does not represent me. A Democratic Congress which does not respect civil liberties, okays tax cuts for rich douchebags, is a wholly owned subsidiary of the banks? These are not my people.

    You want to see the “far” anything, go check out how many times Congress played brinksmanship with the debt ceiling.

    Democratic support is why gays HAVE advanced politically. Siding with a jerk like Santorum, who compares your relationship to bestiality is not likely to happen.

    Advising a group of people they should side with the people who just banned them for participating in a conference? Well, that take chutzpah, Chuck. Maybe gays will join the Republican party in more numbers when Republicans let them?

  • Anonymous

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/First-Time-Majority-Americans-Favor-Legal-Gay-Marriage.aspx

    I’d tell you to bite me, but with your constant snarling here, I’m afraid you might. Take two pills tomorrow, okay?

  • Ben

    Well…that was awkward.
    Anybody else loved the irony of Dana Loesh,of all people,telling a reporter to “act like a lady”,because she asked a question?..I mean,really?

    Awkward..

  • Cecelia

    If codifying inequality means not redefining marriage, I think nature first codified the biology that has set that standard centuries before the rest of us were born.

  • bob ross

    Ohhh I must of had CPAC all twisted…republicans want to be loved. So when we all worship the one Christian God, allow the rich feel free from paying taxes, reject the unions and work for minimum wage with no benefits…Then, then republicans will feel loved?
    Your going to hate the elections in November.

  • Anonymous

    How is Howard Phillips doing, Pablo?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    I think nature first codified the biology that has set that standard centuries before the rest of us were born.

    Did you just called homosexuals “freaks of nature”? Explain that one to Mary Cheney.

  • Anonymous

    stripes? 

  • Cecelia

    No, I call them people.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, basic civil equality is so Stalinist. We can’t be too far away from Equality Camps if these psychotic leftists get their way.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I’m glad Breitbart and Dana are standing up to the Left’s thuggish behavior. 

  • Anonymous

    Given that he’s raised $10M to invest in his media enterprises, I think lots of liberal media will be after him. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    Keep digging.

    Newt certainly lives the concept of “traditional marriage”

    As well as Billdo.

  • bob ross

    Walt,
    I belive your right…should of used another word.
    Blame it on the GED.

  • Cecelia

    You’ve gone from asking me if I think gays are freaks, to evoking Newt Gingrich and Bill O’Reilly… and *I’m “digging”?

  • Walt

    Wow, simply amazing Chuck.  With that comment you just gave a perfect example of how so many conservatives like yourself are completely out of touch with reality.  There is nothing you got right… I mean nothing, seriously.  What you showed us is you are completely clueless to our political history both recent and past and have no idea what it means to be far left to far right.  Who the hell do you listen to put such insane ideas into your head?  To have so many conservatives like yourself be this out-of-touch is, indeed, collective insanity.  We can make jokes about it but deep down it is actually quite disturbing because you vote. 

  • Anonymous

    So your version of reality is you go to war with anyone who won’t kiss your ass and dedicate your life’s work to anyone who will (though they do little more than that)?       In my reality, people work “together” to reach a common goal.  GW spent more money in Africa on health program than any President in history.  He was against gay marriage but so are millions of others.  CA even passed a law against gay marriage, but because that wasn’t acceptable its being fought in the courts.  Live in whichever reality you want, I’ll live in the one where people work towards results and those results actually occur because they actually are ‘reality’.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about other Mediaite readers, but I’m getting tired of these second rate articles involving people like Breitbart, Loesch and other sicko opportunists. And I’m surprised that Tommy C. would cover and write such a murky piece.  Rightwingers would put gay people in mental wards and concentration camps if they had the chance and to dress up arguments that an obviously very confused and very repressed gay person like Breitbart has anything positive to say about gay rights is nutso. And to bring this idiot woman Loesch into the discussion only makes it weirder. Strange stuff.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     It was you saying that nature “sets the standard” for “traditional marriage”

    What I am telling you is your appeal to the same “nature” produces sanctimonious gas bags like Billdo and Newt, worse yet, like Santorum.

    You are saying homosexuals are people, BUT they cannot be allowed to marry. They should “marry” into a “traditional marriage” that is OK. But they CANNOT marry and SHOULD not be allowed to MARRY because, according to the likes of you, it would go against NATURE.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Once a teacher, dear stalker troll. Enjoy the madness of your web.

  • Jardino

    Andrew Breitbart and Dana are having a good time. They make a living from something that has no value. I bet Breitbart gets turned on by the thought of Dana “dropping trou” and urinating on dead Muslims.

  • Cecelia

    Oh, well, you’re a subtle type for sure. Why not argue that I’m saying that an infertile male-female couple is “against nature”.

    The insinuation in the piece was that those people who oppose gay marriage are the revolutionaries. That somehow the concept of male-female alliances is predicated on nothing deeper than the wig on some Whig…

  • Cecelia

    Oh, well, you’re a subtle type for sure. Why not argue that I’m saying that an infertile male-female couple is “against nature”.

    The insinuation in the piece was that those people who oppose gay marriage are the revolutionaries. That somehow the concept of male-female alliances is predicated on nothing deeper than the wig on some Whig…

  • Anonymous

    You expected logic and reason ?

    Let’s see …  this site is  ‘Mediaite’ !  … focused on media stories.

    And by far, today’s biggest media brouhaha story is that of Media Matters …  and still no story here !   Go figure.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/12/inside-media-matters-sources-memos-reveal-erratic-behavior-close-coordination-with-white-house-and-news-organizations/

  • bob ross

    Paplo, are you always this whinny? It’s Bob Ross this and Bob Ross that. Damn dude if it makes you feel better I’m not directing anything toward you personally. Lets just agree to disagree and go along our way.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, thug is a simple word used by simple people, like Breitbart and O’Reilly

  • Anonymous

    While I agree with you that attacking Ms California was totally out of line, how is banning gays at CPAC any better? It’s worse!

  • Anonymous

     I think it is a waste to go around and hate all this or that group. But it would have been in CPAC’s & the GOP’s better interest to allow them in, not ban them

  • Pablo

    Are you a top or a bottom, Skippy? I’m sure plenty of potential husbands are wondering.

  • Walt

    No, I replied and stand by exactly what you said, Chuck.  What does Bush spending money in Africa have to do with helping minorities?  He oversaw one of the most despicable acts in recent history… the lack of timely leadership in providing help and rescue in the Katrina disaster that left many minorities dead or uprooted from their homes and placed elsewhere around the country unable to return to their homes.  The ninth ward which had the largest concentrated area of minority home ownership in America also just happened to be between the French Quarter and downtown New Orleans… something the money bags have always wanted to redevelop.  It was quite the social engineering experiment.  As for the the anti-gay marriage bill in California where I vote… if you didn’t pay attention to what the bill was about it was deceptively written that could give one the idea they were voting for just the opposite.  I believe if that same bill was introduced today it would not pass.  Looking at the the debt buildup brought forth by Bush and the republicons;  what tea party elected governors like Walker, Snyder, Scott, Daniels, Brewer have been doing to their states; the obstructionism that republicons in Congress have been doing since Obama’s election; the intentional manufactured dissent of our elected president and his party by a media that dares to call itself a news outlet… they ain’t working together for the common good.  And if you support that… neither are you.  For many conservatives what they say they are about is completely different from their actions. 

  • http://AverageBro.com AverageBro

    What a collection of uttery pointless, useless individuals.

  • Pablo

    Gallup further proves my point, Timmah!

  • Pablo

    If you’d don’t want people to respond to you, bob, stop posting.

  • Pablo

     Who? No idea.

  • Pablo
  • Pablo

    It’s a perfectly serviceable word, used to describe simple people.

  • Anonymous

    This video snippet is confusing since it starts in the middle of Liz’s questions and cuts off during a CPAC woman responding.  I don’t see why it was put up by Mediate.

  • Anonymous

    Really, you should figure out what your stance is and stick with it.  First you say something so vile that the mind boggles “right-wingers would put gay people in mental wards and concentration camps….”

    Grow the hell up fool.  If you can’t converse without saying something so asinine that a good whack across the head wouldn’t help you just give it up.  You then go on to accuse the same right winger of being gay.

    Then you wonder why we question the sanity of left wing idiots who make such vile, bigoted statements?

  • Anonymous

    Remember when Obama stated the same thing about “marriage”?
    Oh, but he didn’t hate gays and wish all the foul things on them that you accuse the right of.  You save that vitriol for righties.

    Aren’t you just so special!

  • Anonymous

    Liz Glover hasn’t acted like a “lady” in a long time.  I think it’s too late.
    Her question to Gingrich and his Wife was so creepy and perked up your little ears.  It was a totally classless behavior by a “reporter” (I use that word loosely)

    Why do you think lefties are allowed to ask questions that if a right winger asked it – they’d be hung?  You excuse all the foul, degrading questions the left throws at the right (like Cain) and you don’t seem to see the double standard.  

    Like Barbara – skewing the woman that wrote about her tryst with Kennedy and accusing her of every foul deed.  Barbara did exactly the same, but that was fine.  Kennedy used and abused a 19 year old and Walters blamed the woman.  Wanted to know if she gave any thought to poor Caroline.  What about what this woman has lived with and had to come to terms with all those years ago.  What the hell is wrong with you people?  Pretty much the same thing you guys did with Clinton’s little peccadillo’s.  Just sick.  

    Then you claim you care about women.  

  • Anonymous

    “liberated”

    Got to break 100,000 eggs to make an omelet?

    Weird, the people he liberated want nothing to do with us.  You’d think they would be grateful?

  • Anonymous

    Bob, it’s a sign of honor.  Beat him enough and he’ll start calling you South Park names and running away

  • Anonymous

    Why are we talking about Big Government?? A website that only receives around 250,000 unique hits a month? Daily Kos gets nearly 700,000 unique hits a day and I don’t remember the last Daily Kos story on Mediaite. No one reads Breitbart except the media who report on everything he does. Very few people even care about his website no one goes to.

  • Ben

    Sup Seek….how are ya.

    I’m shocked that you disagree with everything I said, then put words in my mouth,and then imply that I don’t care about women based on a story we never discussed and has absolutely nothing to do with this thread at all.I sure didn’t see that coming…

    Shocked,I tell ya….flabbergasted.

  • corri anderson

    Off topic here but was it just me or did everyone in that clip come across like an bunch of immature dimwits? 

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

    Did Media matters check this out with the White House first, before co-ordinating the attack.

    Media matters remains TAX-EXEMPT!
    Call your Reps.!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    On related news:

    Washington Gay Marriage Bill Signed Into Law By Governor Chris Gregoire

    also

    New Jersey Gay Marriage: State Senate Passes Bill Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage

    Watch the wingnutz starting to bray like the proverbial Chris Christie stuck under a fence.
     

  • Anonymous

    That’s because Daily Kos isn’t a news organization, its a virtual liberal circle jerk and hate spewing site.

  • Anonymous

     The GOP has made it clear they will not open that can of worms, as it will come home (not to roost but) to roast them, if this issue gets attention it will hit hundreds of conservative front groups right in the…….lets call them NARDS, and we know that NARDS conservation is a major republican issue right now with so many of their NARDS being able to function ONLY with pharmaceutical support.

    So until Media Matters dose something that can be investigated or prosecuted (not very likely) the conservatives will avoid doing anything that exposes their NARDS to anything that will most assuredly STOMP THEM HARDER than what it will do to others they dislike and hate.

    So if you can get the conservatives to put their NARDS in a Steel Vice that can be used to crush their NARDS then please make it happen.

  • Anonymous

    Is this why Breitbart went out and tried to commit “Suicide By Mob” when tried to ‘incite a violent response’ from Occupy CPAC?

  • Anonymous

     Chuck?? StormFront called and is sorry they banned you and all is forgiven and you can go home to where your more comfortable. take some of your friends from here with you and enjoy the repetitive echo chamber of conservative discourse.

  • Anonymous

     REALLY seek456? REALLY?? How many on the conservaligious right have advocated the criminalization of homosexuality? The denial of services and rights based upon sexual and gender preferences? How many of them advocate forced RE_EDUCATION of homosexuals (male and female) as a way to correct their MENTAL DEFECTS (as they put it) and normalize them? etc.etc.etc.

    Yes it is a fact that many people in this country think that CONSERVALIGIOUS RETHUGLICANS would do very horrible things to gay and lesbian citizens if they thought their grip on the government and the courts was strong enough to get away with it.

    The Conservaligious Rethuglicans tried to get away with legislative enactments of law that forbid courts to consider the constitutionality of their enactments and also tried to prevent courts from overturning them by declaring that the courts had to enforce the laws and had no authority to consider challenges to the laws they enacted, they lost those slimy attempts to get away with  doing UNCONSTITUTIONAL things when they thought they could rule by decree and legislate without complying with Constitutional Mandates and limits on what they could and could not do in this country.

  • Anonymous

    I agree very much with you. I think they’re betting on the premise that voters want anti-Obama (whatever he’s for, we’re against) more than they want reasonable people of either party in office. This is a mistake, in my opinion.

    The GOP certainly aren’t going to attract Independents or dissatisfied Dems if they hug the wall and refuse to moderate their hardline stance on social issues. The bickering over who is most conservative among R-candidates is a waste and will work against them in the general election – they’ll get that ultra-conservative vote no matter what.

    I think they should’ve crafted their message to promote a candidate who is moderately socially conservative, while fiscally very conservative. They are missing the opportunity to pick up votes from those who don’t want Obama again, but who also don’t want someone extremely right of center, either.

    I think most people in this country are sick to death of the
    polarization and just want someone who is going to be fair to all, try
    to dig us out of the financial mess we’re in, and do what’s right for
    the country vs. their own career or their cronies/puppet masters. I doubt I’ll be the only one to hold my nose when I vote this year.

  • Anonymous

    Pablo the statement/posting you made has been settled and it is defined by the Constitution in Article XIV (14) section 1

    So the following:**”That’s not a “Birther” suit per se, as it doesn’t allege that Obama was
    born anywhere but Hawaii. It’s an argument of the definition of the term
    “natural born citizen”, which has never been legally defined.”** It has been legally defined and re-enforced time and again through various Acts and enactments of law, ALL PERSONS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES ARE BY BIRTH NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.

    Respect the Constitutions guarantees of citizenship or risk losing your own rights of citizenship and the Constitutional protections of YOUR citizenship

  • Anonymous

    Going into this year, Republicans looked pretty good. They appeared to have been taking steps into modernizing & nominating a moderate candidate in Romney. Problem is that there is an extremist base that has a very loud voice within the party that wants the party to go back to the policies of 50 years ago. Right now, it appears as if the party is giving in to the extremists.

  • Anonymous

    Never heard of StormFront.  I’ll google it to see if its real.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    What’s offensive about Mr. Christopher’s parochialism when he calls Cynthia Yockey’s claim that gay rights will come “from the right” instead of Obama is offensive, is his blindness to how the welfare state has long oppressed gays.  In particular how it is the locus of school bullying, by denying families school choice and the ability to take a bruised and beaten kid out of a hostile school and enroll him somewhere else.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Actually if you meet any MMFA staff or interns you always hear something freaky, like that David Brock will come down and smoke with staffers, but won’t allow them to ride in the elevator with him back up to the offices.  I used to think this was just quirky.  Now I wonder if there have been sexual harassment settlements such that higher ups at Media Matters are no longer allowed to be alone, including in elevators, with the underlings.

    http://bighomocon.blogspot.com/2012/02/on-daily-caller-they-says-brock-is.html 

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    There were lots of gays there, including Log Cabin Republican ex dir R. Clark Cooper, Presidential candidate Fred Karger, author of the forthcoming book “A Fundamental Freedom” David Lampo, and bloggers like me.  I am not sure many of them were on panels or running exhibit tables though.

    http://bighomocon.blogspot.com

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    What a moron.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    I don’t think that’s how you spell it
    — whiny also whin·ey  adjective

    Thank your public school educrat!

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Is that the royal we?  Speaking of queens.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    The only candidate who supports gay marriage is Gary Johnson, a two term Republican governor who is now the likely nominee of the Libertarian Party.

    He’s not an evasive flip flopper like Obama.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    I have gone every year since 2008 without being banned.  I think you mean they banned one group.  I don’t support that ban, but GOProud did use CPAC to get publicity for itself by having dust ups with the “pro marriage” peeps there.  They used CPAC, they got something out of it, and CPAC decided not to go on a third date because it felt it was being used.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Democrats have been collecting gay peoples’ social security taxes for decades but not offering their spouses and spouses’ kids survivor benefits.

    More importantly the Democratic party’s life blood is gay bullying.  The two big sources of money for Democrats are Wall Street and government unions, including the educrat cartels.  Pro-regressives round up kids, especially poor black and brown kids, and sell them to the educrat cartels for campaign donations to their candidates.  To keep this modern day slave trade going they must maintain state monopoly schools and eliminate school choice.

    The result:  a kid can come home bullied and beaten and his family has no means to send him to another school.  And even homophobic parents and parents who don’t want to (yet) discuss their child’s sexuality don’t want to have a kid coming home bruised and depressed.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Ms. Glover is silly.  She acts as if Breitbart is in favor of banning gays, and this lame writer reports as if that is so, just because Breitbart spoke at CPAC.  Last year Breitbart through a “big gay dance party” for GOProud at CPAC 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi952nAd8PA&feature=player_embedded .  He had nothing to do with their being banned.

    Why do Ms. Glover and Mr. Christopher live in the United States?  It doesn’t allow gay marriage.  Shouldn’t they move to Europe or Canada?  Are they homophobes?

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    How many Democrats condemn gay kids to be trapped in state schools where they are beaten, denying their parents school choice that would allow them to seek safer schools, just so the Democrats can get donations from the educrat cartels?

    How many Democrats, from Obama campaign manager Donna Brazile to Congresswoman Barbara Mikulski remain in the closet, contributing to the climate of shame that leads to gay teen suicide?

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Democrats put gay kids in brick prisons and deny their parents the freedom to choose other schools to enroll them in, even when the kids come home bruised and depressed, bullied by homophobes.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    I think we can all see who gets excited by this line of fantasy.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    No its a fascist circle jerk, like most leftover sites.  With Soros and the Podesta brothers peeping through the glory hole.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Maybe because DailyHoax is completely derivative and we could just read DCCC press releases instead?

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Illegal gun ownership?  Drug use?  Sexual harassment?  Fraudulent IRS tax emept status?

  • Anonymous

     Nothing to those conservative lies, if they have a fraudulent tax exemption and you can prove it, report them but do not expect republicans in the house to get all up in arms about it as that would open up their little fraudsters to examination and that they will not do, Media Matters would not be found to have done anything wrong other than it upsets conservatives, oh well.

  • Anonymous

     tell us your personal experience in these matters, you think it is the fault of democrats when all you continually want is to shut down public schools to favor private for profit schools and christian ones at that.

    Are you a gay conservative carrying a chip over your past and instead of working to put a stop to it you want a run away and hide from it option?

    oh that will help.NOT

  • Anonymous

     And yet you found nothing in my post to respond to or agree with you just wanted to rant and pound your drum on the issue of democrats and public schools.

    SAD just SAD, even my cats think so.

  • Anonymous

     But you got abused in public school and blame democrats for what has been shown to be conservative christian bullying most often promoted by parents and political figures of the republican persuasion and apathy on the part of school administrators, do you honestly think that the christian right is going to just up and abandon their crusade against homosexuals?

    Do you have a belief that you are equal to hetro’s or that special restrictions need to be placed on you for your sexual orientation?

    you can be a victim of conservatism or you can be a crusader doing the good things, which party is more likely to protect you and which party is more likely to re-educate your sexuality?

  • Anonymous

     How long will you survive in the Federal Christian Republic of America that conservatives want to birth out of the ruins of the United States of America they work/want to destroy?

    You are filled with hate that you focus on all things democratic and all non-conservative republicans, and are you aware that the RNC and the republican national convention organizing committee are considering banning the LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS from participation in the convention as an organized group?

    They assert it causes divisions within the party and offends other members in the big tent and sends a conflicted message to potential republican voters as to what the make up of the party and its issues really are and confuses the united front image they wish to portray.

  • Anonymous

    Well how was the reunion? And as usual you decided that i would post a lie despite all the evidence to the contrary.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    You poor little boy.  Those were questions.  Questions can’t be lies.

    You are pretty obviously wrong, parrot that you are, about the fact that Media Matters commits fraud when it applies for a tax exemption as charity.

    And you are apparently unable to read in that people at MMFA say Brock has his assistant carrying around an illegal unregistered firearm.

    I know former MMFA interns who were upset that Brock would smoke with them outside and then block them and keep them out of the elevator so he could ride up alone.  It’s an obvious question then, which could be investigated, as to whether there had been some harassment problem where MMFA senior staff had been instructed not to be alone with MMFA interns and junior staff.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Your a silly little chihuahua.  Gay kids are beaten and commit suicide every day, and have been beaten and committed suicide for decades, because you Demotards oppose school choice and prevent their parents from taking their bruised and depressed kids to safer better schools.  You are homophobes just as you are racists, objectively the most vicious racist and homophobic people in America, condemning kids to bullying and illiteracy, just so you can sell them for blood money to educrat cartels and get campaign donations for your candidates.  It’s the modern day slave trade, and you are it’s profiteers.

    And all you can do when someone points out what moral slime you are is to claim there is only one other option and that they are even worse fascists than you are.

    And then you bark your smug little bumpersticker talking points because some state funded academic air head at your community college told you you were smart.  You are really very pathetic.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Wow you are one amazingly dumb little parrot.  Thousands of children are abused at schools.  You Demotards have no solution, and in fact you profit off their being trapped, sold as slaves to the educrat cartels that fund your campaign.  Your hands and wallets are covered in the blood of dead gay teens, and the future of hopelessness and illiteracy of poor minority children.

    Even most Christian anti-gay parents would re-enroll their beaten or bruised gay kid in another school that did a better job of preventing beating and bullying, if they had the choice.

    You and your fat ‘crat friends stand in the way of this, because after Wall Street bankers this is the second richest source of funds for Democratic campaigns.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    What a completely retarded jackhole you are.  Nothing I am saying is from my personal history.  It’s about political economy, a subject you are obviously too concrete bound to understand.

    You and your Demofascist party oppose free choice.  You don’t want parents to be able to take the tuition dollars spent on their kids and enroll their kids in any school they want with that money.  You want the kids sold to state monopoly schools and educrat cartels, which fail to educate and fail to stop bullying.  You are zombies who live by eating the deaths of the gay kids you kill and the hopes and dreams of the minority children you condemn to illiteracy and unemployment.

    You are such a fascist that your only concern is that you eliminate school choice so you can make sure there are no Christian schools because you hate Christians.  You have no clue that parents might choose gay friendly Christian schools, or Jewish or Islamic or completely secular or all gay staffed schools.  You must crush all diversity in order to make sure no one does anything you don’t like.  And to make sure Democratic incumbents keep getting educrat cartel donations.

    You seem like a completely disgusting creature.

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    Oh now I get it.  Thomas G. Williams, a Talking Points Memo whore.  A zombie from a cesspool of rotted corpses of retarded Nazi felchers.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, 

    You write above that Breitbart stepping down from GOProud is “arguably justified.”

    Now, Andrew states this about his reasons for stepping down–

    “On numerous occasions I have spoken with Jimmy LaSalvia and Chris Barron of the significant impact the practice of ‘outing’ had in my evolution from the political left to the right… I have a zero tolerance attitude toward the intentional infliction of vocational and family harm by divulging the details of an individual’s sexual orientation as a weapon of political destruction.”

    How galant, eh? 

    And how DISHONEST to boot! 

    Not even one whole year ago, Andrew launched a campaign against Rep Anthony Wiener that was orchestrated ENTIRELY AS A INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF VOCATIONAL AND FAMILY HARM BY DIVULGING THE DETAILS OF A PERSONS SEXUALITY. 

    YOu know that Tommy, because Mediate was breathlessly hanging onto to every freaking update on the matter. 

    it is a shameful truth that Mediaite gave more attention to Breitbarts campaign on Weiners crotch shots that it has ever given to anything of real relevance, such as the Zadroga Bill.

    Again, you know that Tommy. 

    What I dont get is why you journalists, fully aware of what a dishonest, cruel, and bigoted charlatan Breitbart is, NEVER call him out on his wildly erratic  inconsistencies.

    BTW, you straight people need to know something that we gays already do. 

    As someone who launched an anti-gay campaign against Kevin Jennings, and did so by actively inciting homophobic fantasies in his audience, Breitbart is NOOOO friend to gay people, or to our cause. 

    His appropriation of GOProud was more about achieving the GOP dream of voting Obama out at all costs… even if it meant temporarily accommodating groups that the GOP repeatedly throws under the bus. 

    Thats all.

    Breitbart is no friend to LGBT people and never was.  

    And I really dont believe that someone who stood, wild eyed and intoxicated on national news, while happily throwing around private nudey pictures of his political targets, has ANY concern over “inflicting vocational or family harm” through sexual blackmail. 

  • Anonymous

    BTW Tommy, 

    I didnt mean the above post as a rip on you or your article.  

    But as a gay man who has been out since long before it was safe, and who has been active in gay rights for 30 years, I take very strong issue with the idea that Breitbart “supports” us… he does NOT and never has.  He simply tried to win gay votes (and sabotage our events) by getting an “in” through GOProud. 

    You cant call yourself a “friend to gay people” with a history l Breitbarts. 

  • Anonymous

    Sarah, we all know what makes a creepy, nosey, spy-on-your-neighbors-for-the-Reich nazi like you “glad”.

  • Anonymous

    Bruce, put down the crack pipe and use your ill-gotten drug money to buy yourself a clue. 

    Even though you are too confused to understand this, the GOP HAS made ant-gay vitriol part and parcel of the “religious war” nonsense that they (and you) are carelessly bandying about. 

    So, for your clarification—The Michigan GOP worked very hard to make sure that gay kids CAN LEGALLY be bullied on the basis of “religious conviction or moral outrage.”  They were prevented from doing so by state Democrats and gay activists.That was the Michigan GOP and the TEA PARTY who did that… Get it?   Can you PRETEND to care enough about the experience of gay kids to call out your party for its support of that campaign? Seriously!Right now, in Minnesota, gay activists are trying very hard to champion anti-bullying laws in Hennepin and Ramsey counties.  Guess who is opposing the movement to prevent the bullying of gay kids?  Your beloved GOP and their nazi Tea Party lap dogs, that’s who. The fact that you REFUSE to see that, and that you manage to TWIST reality to conform to this bizarre program  you have been conditioned to accept, is really quite scary. In a word, you are brainwashed. (Washington Times Founder Sun Myong Moon, the face of modern brainwashing, and his whole Moonie cult would be very proud of you… as a good zombie, you have brainwashed yourself on their behalf.) But just because you are one of those deranged, confused  turn coats that wants to sell off the accomplishments of LGBT rights, just so that YOU can be accepted by a bunch of angry, violent, DISHONEST bigots in the GOP, does not mean that you speak for Gay America…. in fact, you only speak for the worst parts of the GOP. And BTW, when Andrew Breitbart launched his campaign against Kevin JEnnings, he did so BY deliberately cultivating homophobic fantasies in his readers… okay? FAlsely accusing someone of pedophilia is an old stand by with which right wing nut jobs have ALWAYS vilified gay activists. And being a blogger doesnt make you the “voice” of anything… it just means you have too much time to waste, and not enough going on in your own pathetic life. Its sad to think that a man as old as you can so easily defy reality with such knee jerk dissonance.  

    In fact, its just crazy, and thankfully, America is getting very sick of the CRAZY bs that Breitbart, the GOP and people like you want so badly to empower.

    Shame on you. 

  • http://teapartiers.blogspot.com brucepmajors

    You have to regurgitate this pap air head, because your party is financially dependent on sending gay kids to schools they have no choice about, where they are beaten in front of feckless bureaucrats, because the educrat cartel funds your candidates.

    Meanwhile, most of the gay rights victories, from decriminalizing sodomy, to gay marriage in New York and California, and even the end of Don’t ask don’t tell have happened because of law suits and fund raising by libertarians or libertarian oriented Republicans.

    It’s irrelevant that the GOP also has social conservatives in it. They don’t take gay money while failing to deliver on gay rights as Demotards do.

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