Jared Lee Loughner is an registered republican

Maliheh said:
Jared Lee Loughner is an registered republican

will you F’n grow up man?!
or are you disturbed too?

Atticus Draco said:
will you F’n grow up man?!
or are you disturbed too?

Gee, you’re angry and disturbed, too. Maybe the FBI needs to put you on a list, as well.

Democrat or Republican really doesn’t matter. What we have here is a government that is pushing people over the edge by caring about special interests (their own, mostly) rather than us. Anger from the Left aimed at the right is just as fierce as it is in the other direction,

iris said:
What the hell is wrong with YOU!
Can’t handle the truth?

A Kim Bo said:
Gee, you’re angry and disturbed, too. Maybe the FBI needs to put you on a list, as well.

this goes far beyond political affiliation you mental midgets!
THE GUY IS F’n NUTS!!
PROBABLY MENTALLY DISTURBED!!

No only is he registered (and lets just trust people on that, we don’t really need proof), he also ate at McDonalds, and once shopped at Walmart!

What does that mean? Well, clearly he was inspired by that stuff. I mean, that makes sense, right?!

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It’s really a shame there are so many nasty and vitriolic people out there. People who gleefull try to capitalize on the actions of a madman, and murder of innocents. They have no shame, but we remain embarassed for them.

iris said:
republicans don’t care who owns a gun and they

THAT’S JUST PLAIN FALSE!!!

He was a reader of the Communist Manifesto and favorited a video of an American flag burning.

The title of the video is;

“America: Your Last Memory In A Terrorist Country! “

Atticus Draco said:
THE GUY IS F’n NUTS!!
PROBABLY MENTALLY DISTURBED!

So are people who SHOUT in their posts. I need to flag you for your own protection.

Latin2 said:
He was a reader of the Communist Manifesto

He also read Mein Kampf. He also shot a DEMOCRAT and stated he couldn’t trust the “current government”. He had issues with people who didn’t speak proper grammar, either. Additionally, he takes issue with the lack of gold or silver backing for money. Sorry, the evidence leans toward a right wing nut. Take ownership of the pathetic tone of those one the right, particularly those like Palin who stuck Rep Gifford’s name next to a GUN SIGHT and told supporters to “take aim”.

He favorited this video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1lsLU-kUw

and look at his reading list;

Books:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

A Kim Bo said:
He also read Mein Kampf. He also shot a DEMOCRAT and stated he couldn’t trust the “current government”. He had issues with people who didn’t speak proper grammar, either. Additionally, he takes issue with the lack of gold or silver backing for money. Sorry, the evidence leans toward a right wing nut. Take ownership of the pathetic tone of those one the right, particularly those like Palin who stuck Rep Gifford’s name next to a GUN SIGHT and told supporters to “take aim”.

uh…he shot a Democrat AND KILLED A REPUBLICAN appointed judge.

A Kim Bo said:
He also read Mein Kampf. He also shot a DEMOCRAT and stated he couldn’t trust the “current government”. He had issues with people who didn’t speak proper grammar, either. Additionally, he takes issue with the lack of gold or silver backing for money. Sorry, the evidence leans toward a right wing nut. Take ownership of the pathetic tone of those one the right, particularly those like Palin who stuck Rep Gifford’s name next to a GUN SIGHT and told supporters to “take aim”.

you gotta be a left wingnut,, you’re jumping to conclusions

Did nobody notice the story directly below this one… where an (alleged) schoolmate of this guy said he was a left-wing radical?

Either way, give it a rest! You realize all this hooting and hollaring about politics is only going to bite you later, if your unfounded conclusions are shown false. Show a little class for Pete’s sake!

Latin2 said:
uh…he shot a Democrat AND KILLED A REPUBLICAN appointed judge.

UH when asked about the shooting Rep. Giffords own father was asked if she had any enemies. He said “yes, the whole tea party”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/8248399/Gabrielle-Giffords-father-The-whole-Tea-Party-were-her-enemies.html

Apparently he was familiar with the kind of threats she had been receiving. Obviously the person was targeting HER as it was an event for HER. But thanks for the willful ignorance and piss poor excuse making for the dangerous tone being set from the GOP and Right Wing.

Atticus Draco said:
you gotta be a left wingnut,, you’re jumping to conclusions

You’re the one having a hard time dealing with facts. That’s a pretty common issue with those who support the Tea Party. I’ll send your name along to local Homeland Security officials all the same.

And as for the REPUBLICAN JUDGE, he, too, was the target of harsh rhetoric by RIGHT WING RADIO in Arizona:

Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge.
The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family.
This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed.

Again, more evidence that the tone on the RIGHT has been ugly and REAL CONSERVATIVES need to stop making excuses for it. It’s good that most here would never be accused of being REAL CONSERVATIVES.

Follow classmate of shooter reportedly being called in by Good Morning America. Now I don’t know if this is real or verfieid;

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

The DailyKos scrubbed this for some reason. (I saw this posted elsewhere.)

The DailyKos had a post titled “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!” by a guy named BoyBlue from a few days ago and they pulled it off. (Here is the Google cache of the page: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AegHLC2hTfZoJ%3Awww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2011%2F1%2F6%2F933828%2F-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi%21-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me%21+My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi+dailykos&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

“I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords’ district..”

Read the comments there. I wonder if this is him. DailyKos may be tampering with evidence.

# This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me. less than 5 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone

# @antderosa it’s loughner just checked my year book. less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @lakarune I haven’t seen him since ’07. Then, he was left wing. 25 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to lakarune

# @noboa more left. I haven’t seen him since ’07 though. He became very reclusive. 27 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to noboa

# @antderosa he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in ’06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical. 29 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. 33 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @antderosa he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven’t seen him in person since ’07 in a sign language class 35 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was “stupid & unintelligent” 37 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @antderosa I can. That is him. 39 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

# @antderosa I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific.

ChrisNH said:
What we have here is a government that is pushing people over the edge by caring about special interests (their own, mostly) rather than us.

Blaming the govt for this lunatic is just as bad as those blaming the Right.

This guy is just Son-Of-Sam crazy.

I really am not hearing anyone else say this. but he really sounds like he was listening to Alex Jones. If you listen to him, he was just as nuts about Bush as he is Obama (and not that phony Glenn Beck I was against both. I mean REAL against both).

The guy is based in Austin but I think he is syndicated all over the place. He has Ron Paul on all the time and they talk about One World Government, NAFTA Super Highway, and standard crazy people boiler plate.

The mistake anyone is making in trying to fit any of this into our Republican/Democrat spectrum is that the extremes of both left and right end up bumping into each other in places like this.

BFD said:
This guy is just Son-Of-Sam crazy.

Absolutely . If you view his videos and reach any other conclusion , you are as deeply distubed as he is.

A Kim Bo said:
He also read Mein Kampf. He also shot a DEMOCRAT and stated he couldn’t trust the “current government”. He had issues with people who didn’t speak proper grammar, either. Additionally, he takes issue with the lack of gold or silver backing for money. Sorry, the evidence leans toward a right wing nut. Take ownership of the pathetic tone of those one the right, particularly those like Palin who stuck Rep Gifford’s name next to a GUN SIGHT and told supporters to “take aim”.

You are really jumping to conclusions. Slow down. We need to accumulate information.

BTW, she was a Conservative Democrat. Like I said, let’s gather the facts.

The girl says she knows the shooter on twitter;

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

He reportedly was in a band, liked to get high…sounds like any teenager…did get drunk and almost died…and he is a leftist …and she said the shooter met Rep. Gifford in 2007.

Don’t know how accurate it is or if she is making this up.

A Kim Bo said:
You’re the one having a hard time dealing with facts.

Here, have some facts. This young lady was retweeting that “Palin had her murdered” nonsense after mentioning that the shooting was very near her house. Then she heard who the shooter was. Turns out, she knows him. Enjoy your facts.

Here is that person myspace…she is from arizona;

http://www.myspace.com/caitieparker

so she could be the real deal

Alz said:
The DailyKos scrubbed this for some reason. (I saw this posted elsewhere.)

The DailyKos had a post titled “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!” by a guy named BoyBlue from a few days ago and they pulled it off. (Here is the Google cache of the page: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AegHLC2hTfZoJ%3Awww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2011%2F1%2F6%2F933828%2F-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi%21-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me%21+My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi+dailykos&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

“I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords’ district..”

Read the comments there. I wonder if this is him. DailyKos may be tampering with evidence.

Just confirmed: This liberal is not Jared and he doesn’t like Gabrielle Gifford either.

This liberal wrote another post saying he feels bad. (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2011/1/6/134228/2362/60#c60)

I won’t waste any time blaming the tea party! It is clear however that these “hit lists” and “take up arms” crap makes a difference to these people! Where do these nuts get their information, one network! Even the wording is the same in a few lines from these scare grandma shows! Both parties should never use threats or speak of guns!

BFD said:
Blaming the govt for this lunatic is just as bad as those blaming the Right.

This guy is just Son-Of-Sam crazy.

he damn sure is man!
Again,, it’s beyond politics
in fact,, i doubt if the shooter could accurately spell the word politics!
or accurately

For those on the Left who keep trying to politicize this should read that girls tweets;

@antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. 33 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa.

People should not use this sad incident to advance their own political agenda…this is a tragedy and the gunman was a kook. It also appears he might have not bee in the “tea party” .

This thread is pretty bad. Their are nuts who try to claim one party or the other who are not wanted. His school friends say he is left wing and his reading list would tend to point that way. He shot a blue dog democrat who is for secure borders and employer fines when hiring illegals. She was well liked by both sides and said to be a pleasure to work with. She was not polarizing or partisan. She was currently working on reforming the way our representatives get paid something we would all like to see. The shooter is a 22 year old white male. If this is about politics no one can tell what side he was on and his writings on u-tube don’t shed much light. Face it folks if he turns out to be a Republican or Democrat doesn’t matter. He is sick. He spoke of not being able to sleep and the right to be able to sleep. He is either hopped up on drugs or very mentally sick. This is a sick b@stard and using him in arguments over politics is just as sick as he is. This is the time to join together and grieve for our congresswoman. It is not the time to try to take this tragic event and use it to further your views.

Maliheh said:
Jared Lee Loughner is an registered republican

Maliheh, you are one sick SOB. Using a tragedy like this to advance your hatred.

Latin2 said:
For those on the Left who keep trying to politicize this should read that girls tweets;

@antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. 33 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa.

People should not use this sad incident to advance their own political agenda…this is a tragedy and the gunman was a kook. It also appears he might have not bee in the “tea party” .

As someone who has been reading your posts for a very long time I wonder if you would have been this “fair” if the congressperson was republican.

I’m sad to say I think you would have jumped all over this tragedy like a tick on a coon dog.

iris said:
Riiight, like i said thats why they are always screaming at libs for wanting to make it harder for just anyone to have a gun and think its cute and funny when your goddess palin puts targets on people

Ah, yes. My imposter is back. What is wrong with you, sick little stalker?

That Twitter user hadn’t seen him in three years. God knows what’s happened to his psyche since. And a list of classic books he read and enjoyed is hardly a clue to anything. You can make the argument that the Communist Manifesto makes him a liberal; you can make the argument that Farenheit 451 makes him a conservative. It’s all irrelevant. That book list is a Rorschach test.

The nonsensical “word salad” displayed in these videos is a pretty strong indicator of schizophrenia, in my humble, non-medical opinion.

BFD said:
As someone who has been reading your posts for a very long time I wonder if you would have been this “fair” if the congressperson was republican. I’m sad to say I think you would have jumped all over this tragedy like a tick on a coon dog.

you mean like you are doing, what a shame

iris said:
Oh yeah right, thats why teabaggers and republicans don’t care who owns a gun and they are the ones who think its perfectly fine to carry guns to political events and scream at STUPID LIBS for trying to strengthen gun laws.Riiiiight, it makes no difference at all

Cool your jets, Tumbleweed, before you make more of an ass of yourself. I’ve always wondered about you. At times I’ve wondered if you aren’t a conservative plant trying to make liberals sound bad. Now I see you’re just a run of the mill sociopath.

cjd ohio 1 said:
you mean like you are doing, what a shame

Wrong. I have repeatedly blamed no one but the shooter and reserved my comments for the way this story is being reported on both sides, of which I disapproved.

I actually hung my head in shame when Keith announced his show tonight and MSNBC played the crying-Pelosi video.

I have been trying to be as fair and honest as I can be.

I don’t recall many of your posts except for the few snotty little asides directed at other users.

damn, you people on both sides need to chill; one wack-a-doodle doesn’t represent anyone else, left or right…grow up, already…

because, its just some nut case, and everyone tries to turn it into a left or right issue.

iris said:
Powersiave save it for another time

I will if you will, SarahP.

iris said:
The political aspect of targeting Giffords started with your goddess palin and when your beloved teabaggers went to Giffirds town hall with their guns and now all of a sudden you think this has nothing to do with politics!

you dont know me, or who i voted for. but keep assuming and make a ass of yourself

iris said:
If anybody has time for powerslaves antics just change the L in slave for a capital i and it will look just like Powerslave and you can post and pretend you’re him, he thinks its really funny i guess

You’re not very bright are you ? Also too .

iris said:
You can call me all the names you want it still doesn’t change the fact that the targeting of Giffords was politicized long before today……asshat

yes it was, but you dont know who i support or dont

STOP YOUR BICKERING!!!

You goota to be a bunch of fruitcakes!

I carry 2 handguns everywhere i go and will not apologize for it. i will protect my family from nuts like this if at all possible! you do what you want to, after all it is a fre country.

Classic partisan inhumanity. I remember when it was the nativist/environmentalist nut the roles were reversed and conservatives were saying it’s OK to say it was a result of his political beliefs because the left did the same with Timothy McVeigh. Let’s not care about the political beliefs of murderous psychopaths.

Maliheh said:
Jared Lee Loughner is an registered republican

If u must go down this repugnant road, know that Shep Smith reported earlier
one of this kids favorite reads is the Communist Manifesto, he made complaint that
in Service someone offered him a Bible.. He did not believe in God.. so,,, that makes him
ALL YOURS without a doubt,
you feminine waste disposal

iris said:
You can call me all the names you want it still doesn’t change the fact that the targeting of Giffords was politicized long before today……asshat

If u r referring to previous threats,
So was The Governor of AZ & The (R) senator from AZ
among many others .. what’s ur point Soros lotion boy?

She is a previous Republican , turned Blue DOg Dem,
respected by all. Just take ur spin & BS back to DailyKos

Maliheh said:
Jared Lee Loughner is an registered republican

Please explain why his favorite “books” were the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

“We are again dealing with difficulties in a contentious, partisan time. We are more connected than ever before, more able to spread our ideas and beliefs, our anger and fears. As we exercise the right to advocate our views, and as we animate our supporters, we must all assume responsibility for our words and actions before they enter a vast echo chamber and reach those both serious and delirious, connected and unhinged.”

- Bill Clinton last year on the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing

Iris, you know you’ve crossed the line when Royal tells you to put a sock in it. Give it a rest because no one is interested in listening to you, including those on your side.

Atticus Draco said:
will you F’n grow up man?!
or are you disturbed too?

Sick of hearing about republican psychopaths? I’m sick of seeing them on TV, and people like you watching them, people that don’t have the intellect to decipher paranoid delusions from reality. Check yourself into a mental care facility before you hurt someone.

Republicans should be banned from carrying guns. They are simple. Somewhat child like. They just can’t handle the responsibility. Do we give 5 year olds guns? No. So why would people allow republicans to carry them?

ChrisNH said:
Democrat or Republican really doesn’t matter. What we have here is a government that is pushing people over the edge by caring about special interests (their own, mostly) rather than us. Anger from the Left aimed at the right is just as fierce as it is in the other direction,

One difference: We don’t kill people. We don’t shoot cops, politicians, random government workers, judges, presidents.

iris said:
The political aspect of targeting Giffords started with your goddess palin and when your beloved teabaggers went to Giffirds town hall with their guns and now all of a sudden you think this has nothing to do with politics!

While some have made stupidity into a virtue you have advanced it to a science.

Bundy says:

One difference: We don’t kill people. We don’t shoot cops, politicians, random government workers, judges, presidents.

You need to review the history of left wing radicals, moron.

bundesheer said:
One difference: We don’t kill people. We don’t shoot cops, politicians, random government workers, judges, presidents.

well in the 60′s you did, history is a bitch sometimes

My prayers go out to the families and loved ones who were victimized by this horrible act. I hope all those who are inclined to do so will pray for Rep. Gifford’s recovery and commend the souls of those who died to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

I pray that those who may otherwise be inclined to use this event to advance their political and societal agendae will reflect upon the unwise proclivities to do so–this is not the time for partisan bickering; it is a time for the unity of spirit that makes us Americans.

cjd ohio 1 said:
well in the 60’s you did, history is a bitch sometimes

Specifics? I am sure there are some. I’d like to hear specific events. Because in my lifetime, the only news I’ve ever heard is “abortion doctor killed by republican that watches Fox”.. Can you imagine the same about someone that watches say, Keith Olbermann? Almost laughable.

Liberal media right? -.- You have no concept of liberal. In Liberal countries Politicians arent assassinated for having differing views. Hell I can count the amount of murders each year on one hand. In America? They loooove to kill. Give me one serial killer thats a liberal, I’ll give you 10 that are conservative. Something wrong with you people.

bundesheer said:
Specifics? I am sure there are some. I’d like to hear specific events. Because in my lifetime, the only news I’ve ever heard is “abortion doctor killed by republican that watches Fox”.. Can you imagine the same about someone that watches say, Keith Olbermann? Almost laughable.

Liberal media right? -.- You have no concept of liberal. In Liberal countries Politicians arent assassinated for having differing views. Hell I can count the amount of murders each year on one hand. In America? They loooove to kill. Give me one serial killer thats a liberal, I’ll give you 10 that are conservative. Something wrong with you people.

Weather Underground
SDS (Liberal Students for a Democratic Society)
Revolutionary Youth Movement

Here’s a short list for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_(organization) They’re L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S.

ChrisNH said:
Democrat or Republican really doesn’t matter. What we have here is a government that is pushing people over the edge by caring about special interests (their own, mostly) rather than us. Anger from the Left aimed at the right is just as fierce as it is in the other direction,

but in either case it isn’t right to shoot a young congresswoman just because government pisses you off. We can’t blame the government for everything, because the simple fact remains we vote these politicians in.

Maybe if we all just go third party.. things might get better.. I am an Independent so I don’t care if party politics was behind it.. to me it would look like an age old rivalry gone horribly wrong

bundesheer said:
Specifics? I am sure there are some. I’d like to hear specific events. Because in my lifetime, the only news I’ve ever heard is “abortion doctor killed by republican that watches Fox”.. Can you imagine the same about someone that watches say, Keith Olbermann? Almost laughable. Liberal media right? -.- You have no concept of liberal. In Liberal countries Politicians arent assassinated for having differing views. Hell I can count the amount of murders each year on one hand. In America? They loooove to kill. Give me one serial killer thats a liberal, I’ll give you 10 that are conservative. Something wrong with you people.

democratic national convention 1968 chicago, weatherman bombing NYC police department..us senate and penagon restrooms.., u of wisconsin bombing

this was a nut job that did this not either political party………shit happens on both sides

Socialist said:
but in either case it isn’t right to shoot a young congresswoman

Exactly.

Alz said:
Weather Underground
SDS (Liberal Students for a Democratic Society)
Revolutionary Youth Movement

Here’s a short list for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_(organization) They’re L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S.

Thats pretty funny. I knew you would cite the only event I have ever heard of (not in my lifetime but who doesn’t know about Bill Ayers since Fox plays it over and over). Could you please tell me how many deaths resulted from direct actions of this group?

BFD said:
As someone who has been reading your posts for a very long time I wonder if you would have been this “fair” if the congressperson was republican.

Of course not.

pyrope said:
I pray that those who may otherwise be inclined to use this event to advance their political and societal agendae

And I pray that those who have condoned the TONE of violence to be used by their politicians and their talking point gurus will start rejecting that tone as irresponsible and reprehensible. In other words, stop parroting the words of people who enjoy invoking fear and violent allusions into the discourse whenever they don’t get their way.

bundesheer said:
Could you please tell me how many deaths resulted from direct actions of this group?

The answer is ZERO but it’s doubtful that those who learned all they know about the Weather Underground from Glenn Beck actually know that. Already these tools are keeping score with past movements instead of acknowledging the destructive illusions toward violence that the leaders they support are constantly injecting into the modern discourse. It’s clear that SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES is on the minds of too many on the Right who simply can’t cope with the DEMOCRACY as it is.

bundesheer said:
Thats pretty funny. I knew you would cite the only event I have ever heard of (not in my lifetime but who doesn’t know about Bill Ayers since Fox plays it over and over). Could you please tell me how many deaths resulted from direct actions of this group?

Then why did you withhold the information?

- Before you said “Because in my lifetime, the only news I’ve ever heard is ‘abortion doctor killed by republican that watches Fox’”.
- And now you said ” I knew you would cite the only event I have ever heard of (not in my lifetime….”

So which one is the lie???

A Kim Bo said:
The answer is ZERO but it’s doubtful that those who learned all they know about the Weather Underground from Glenn Beck actually know that. Already these tools are keeping score with past movements instead of acknowledging the destructive illusions toward violence that the leaders they support are constantly injecting into the modern discourse. It’s clear that SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES is on the minds of too many on the Right who simply can’t cope with the DEMOCRACY as it is.

wisconsion army school of math……..post-graduate student

Kim Barker said:
The answer is ZERO but it’s doubtful that those who learned all they know about the Weather Underground from Glenn Beck actually know that. Already these tools are keeping score with past movements instead of acknowledging the destructive illusions toward violence that the leaders they support are constantly injecting into the modern discourse. It’s clear that SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES is on the minds of too many on the Right who simply can’t cope with the DEMOCRACY as it is.

Some Weather Underground dufuses died when the bombs they were making to kill military people at Ft. Dix went off. On this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_Organization, the word string “bomb” is mentioned 55 times.

Why are you defending these losers? Obviously, they are/were very low quality people.

Oh, and didn’t Ayers’s lovely wife Bernardine kill a San Francisco cop?

cjd ohio 1 said:
well in the 60’s you did, history is a bitch sometimes

And in the 60′s people on the RIGHT were also ASSASSINATING liberal leaders. But since you’re advocating a return to that era, no wonder you accept the irresponsible vitriol of the likes of Palin, Angle, Beck, Limbaugh, and O’Reilly (whose rhetoric led to another assassination). It’s to time to disassociate from these goons which means stop parroting their words and condemn when they go overboard. Even the police in Pima County acknowledge that the vitriol in the State and on Right Wing radio has gotten out of hand.

Alz said:
Why are you defending these losers?

Why are you defending the likes of Sarah Palin, Sharon Angle, and Glenn Beck? Not only do you defend them, you parrot their words. You can’t even name an instance where I’ve advocated the will of the Weather Underground. But I can cite DOZENS of instances where you have condoned and apologized for the tone and tactics of your favorite gurus. Hold these goons culpable for their heated rhetoric and stop using the PAST violence (which was happening in equal measures on the Left and the Right from that era) as an excuse to overlook it now.

A Kim Bo said:
And in the 60’s people on the RIGHT were also ASSASSINATING liberal leaders. But since you’re advocating a return to that era, no wonder you accept the irresponsible vitriol of the likes of Palin, Angle, Beck, Limbaugh, and O’Reilly (whose rhetoric led to another assassination). It’s to time to disassociate from these goons which means stop parroting their words and condemn when they go overboard. Even the police in Pima County acknowledge that the vitriol in the State and on Right Wing radio has gotten out of hand.

advocating a return to that era, are you nuts, your mind is weak if thats what you saw written or i implied, you need to stay away from olbermann and maddows if you can twist stuff that easily

Did anyone, aside from the “professional left”, call out Sharron Angle for her 2nd amendment remedies comments? I mean…did she even get a “tsk tsk tsk” from the Tea Party powers-that-be? Anyone on “professional right”? Anyone?

cjd ohio 1 said:
your mind is weak if thats what you saw written or i implied

You implied that it’s alright for those on the Right to peddle profane violent solutions when they don’t get their way because people in the 60′s used to do the same. AGAIN, stop making excuses for the violent tone of those who you support. In fact, question your support of those who have to resort to such rhetoric in the first place if they can’t make a cogent argument like an ADULT.

You’re the one suggesting that only LIBERALS were violent in the 60s when I have two dead liberal Presidents and one dead civil rights leaders that says otherwise. Or, your using those tragedies to deflect from the violent illusions in some of the more dire talking points on the Right. And not simply from people on the FRINGE but actual politicians and people who have their own nationwide talk shows on the radio and the Fox TV Network.

One liberal President and one liberal would be President that is.

bealzebubba said:
Did anyone, aside from the “professional left”, call out Sharron Angle for her 2nd amendment remedies comments? I mean…did she even get a “tsk tsk tsk” from the Tea Party powers-that-be? Anyone on “professional right”? Anyone?

No we did not. And from the tone of the violent rhetoric apologists commenting here, you’re not going to hear any criticism.

A Kim Bo said:
You implied that it’s alright for those on the Right to peddle profane violent solutions when they don’t get their way because people in the 60’s used to do the same. AGAIN, stop making excuses for the violent tone of those who you support. In fact, question your support of those who have to resort to such rhetoric in the first place if they can’t make a cogent argument like an ADULT. You’re the one suggesting that only LIBERALS were violent in the 60s when I have two dead liberal Presidents and one dead civil rights leaders that says otherwise. Or, your using those tragedies to deflect from the violent illusions in some of the more dire talking points on the Right. And not simply from people on the FRINGE but actual politicians and people who have their own nationwide talk shows on the radio and the Fox TV Network.

no, if you read the whole thread, the comment was violence only comes from the right, i was pointing out that was not true, but your mind cant understand that…..assume some more,or read the thread

No matter his affiliation, he is a

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I am betting he feels like a dumb ass about now. I hope so anyway.

cjd ohio 1 said:
assume some more

I’m going to assume that you accept that when Sarah Palin directed targeted Giffords and that when Tea Party protests of her last year resulted in someone dropping a gun at the event were perfectly acceptable until you say otherwise. Until then, keep on making excuses for this kind of rhetoric and behavior.

oh he’s beyond being a punk…he’s a clearly bat-shit-crazy an irrational. His political affiliation means nothing accept to those who want to politicize this act.

bealzebubba said:
he’s a clearly bat-shit-crazy an irrational

In other words, a terrorist.

A Kim Bo said:
I’m going to assume that you accept that when Sarah Palin directed targeted Giffords and that when Tea Party protests of her last year resulted in someone dropping a gun at the event were perfectly acceptable until you say otherwise. Until then, keep on making excuses for this kind of rhetoric and behavior.

personally i am not a fan of palin, targeting her seat in congress, no i did not think it meant to shot people that is one hell of a leap…….carrying guns i dont have a problem with, though i dont own one myself

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, speaking about Arizona:

“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government­. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous­. And, unfortunat­ely, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.

A Sheriff who has to deal with BAT SHIT CRAZY loons in Arizona all the time knows what’s going on even though too many goons here don’t want to admit it.

Doesn’t really sound like a conservative or Tea Party member to me…………… Sounds like a f**king NUT!

“Dupnik said the shooter had previous run-ins with the law and had threatened to kill someone before.

There had been “difficulties” at Pima Community College where Loughner attended, Dupnik said. One student, who had a poetry class with Loughner, said he would often act “wildly inappropriate.”

“One day he started making comments about terrorism and laughing about killing the baby,” classmate Don Coorough told ABC News, referring to a discussion about abortions. “The rest of us were looking at him in shock… I thought this young man was troubled.”

Another classmate, Lydian Ali, recalled the incident as well.

“A girl had written a poem about an abortion. It was very emotional and she was teary eyed and he said something about strapping a bomb to the fetus and making a baby bomber,” Ali told ABC News. ”

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-gabriel-giffords-suspected-shooter-identified/story?id=12572164

tgk said:
Sounds like a f**king NUT!

Yea, he does sound like a f**king nut. Now if he only had access to affordable health care.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008
“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010
‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

I have seen not one bit of evidence that this unbalanced murderer ever even saw Palins target list and I am sick and tired of the propaganda that it is the right that talks of violence. We are angry yes but whose rallies have to have security. Which rallies turn to riots.

A Kim Bo said:
Yea, he does sound like a f**king nut. Now if he only had access to affordable health care.

That’s why they’re trying to kill Obamacare. Duh. Lot’s of money will be saved.

Seriously? Who cares what his political affiliation is? He’s a 22 year old psychopath, he probably doesn’t know or care. From looking at his MySpace and You tube posts, it looks to me like he was just anti government period, be it Republican or Democrat. He was kicked out of college and turned away by the Army because he was mentally disturbed and was looking for some prominent government official to vent his anger on.

Personally, I think anyone trying to point fingers at Republicans or Democrats are disturbed themselves. Quit trying to make political points off the blood of innocent people gunned down by a crazy kid.

A Kim Bo said:
Why are you defending the likes of Sarah Palin, Sharon Angle, and Glenn Beck? Not only do you defend them, you parrot their words. You can’t even name an instance where I’ve advocated the will of the Weather Underground. But I can cite DOZENS of instances where you have condoned and apologized for the tone and tactics of your favorite gurus. Hold these goons culpable for their heated rhetoric and stop using the PAST violence (which was happening in equal measures on the Left and the Right from that era) as an excuse to overlook it now.

I’m no expert on Angle, but I like Palin and Beck. I have no problem defending them They’re very pro-America, unlike many liberals..

Alz said:
That’s why they’re trying to kill Obamacare. Duh. Lot’s of money will be saved.

Actually the CBO disagrees with you. But I guess Boehner’s fishy math is all you need. You probably think, like Boehner, that we have the best health care in the world even though NO empirical evidence in the world could support such statements.

Still, we have CRAZIES and they were not being helped by a health care system that was underserving America LONG BEFORE the dreaded Obamacare took root. Clearly you don’t mind the number of mentally disturbed Americans who can’t get basic help walking around our streets. Hell, not only do you not mind it, you look to those crazies as new wingnut recruits.

Dys said:
Seriously? Who cares what his political affiliation is? He’s a 22 year old psychopath, he probably doesn’t know or care. From looking at his MySpace and You tube posts, it looks to me like he was just anti government period, be it Republican or Democrat. He was kicked out of college and turned away by the Army because he was mentally disturbed and was looking for some prominent government official to vent his anger on.

Personally, I think anyone trying to point fingers at Republicans or Democrats are disturbed themselves. Quit trying to make political points off the blood of innocent people gunned down by a crazy kid.

The liberals descended to bringing Plain into this and we’re now stuck as it’s now political – like everything is with them.

Complicating things for them is the killer seems like he’s a liberal so they are digging deep. Sorry, it’s just what the country has turned into since the 60′s.

Alz said:
but I like Palin and Beck

And thus you’re responsible for fueling their irrational and violent rhetoric.

Alz said:
I have no problem defending them.

I’ve watched you in action. You’ve had all kinds of problems defending them with anything other than pathetic manboy rants. Like the one you just made about “LIBERALS somehow hating America”. No wonder the crazies on the Right appeal to you, they make the world seem so simple. According to you liberals are evil and conservatives, like Palin and Beck, LOVE AMERICA, they just hate half of the people who live in it.

SORRY TOOL but this crazy f**k decided to use violence against a Democratic politician who Palin targeted LITERALLY with illusions to gun violence and his youtube videos shows a disdain for money not backed by silver or gold and a serious belief that the end of the world is near. These are BOTH examples of the kind of rhetoric that Beck is forever spewing on about. By giving credence to Palin and Beck, you lend credence to the TACTICS and the RHETORIC that fueled this guy. You must be so proud.

Alz said:
The liberals descended to bringing Plain

Sorry, it’s not just the LIBERALS who feel that way. It’s also the SHERIFF in Pima Country who has seen a radical shift in reactionary rhetoric in his state that has led to increases in political violence often aimed at liberals, including against Giffords when she voted for the health care reform, or even Judge John Roll, who was a Bush appointee, when he ruled in favor of an immigrant over a rancher. Sorry but this kind of rhetoric is leading to huge drains on the state because police and other authorities have to provide added security for public officials.

So stop making excuses for the weaknesses of your leaders and pull your head out of the sand. I trust the sheriff about the atmosphere in the growing reactionary stances in Arizona more than I trust the opinion of fake conservative apologists.

A kim bo says:

Actually the CBO disagrees with you.

Actually you’re wrong. Try reading the current findings of the CBO. They’ve finally admitted the truth, that repealing Obamacare will save a ton of money.

A Kim Bo said:
Actually the CBO disagrees with you. But I guess Boehner’s fishy math is all you need. You probably think, like Boehner, that we have the best health care in the world even though NO empirical evidence in the world could support such statements.

Still, we have CRAZIES and they were not being helped by a health care system that was underserving America LONG BEFORE the dreaded Obamacare took root. Clearly you don’t mind the number of mentally disturbed Americans who can’t get basic help walking around our streets. Hell, not only do you not mind it, you look to those crazies as new wingnut recruits.

No, you have it wrong. The CBO reports on what it is given and the so-called $230 billion in savings over 10 years is achieved through $770 billion in new taxes and $540 billion in new spending — remember the new taxes are collected over a ten-year period, while the new spending occurs mostly over a six-year period.

Remember also that the $540 billion in new spending is also grossly underestimated, as argued above.

So when Obamcare is neutered, there will be savings. From experience, we know the tax revenue would be less and the costs would be higher too. Getting rid of Obamacare is a great idea.

No, he didn’t target a Democrat politician. He targeted the politician that was within easiest reach and had just ran a huge ad campaign for reelection. I doubt he even cared that she was a Democrat, or that the judge he killed was Republican. They were just government officials in the path of a psycho who felt life was unfair and it was all the governments fault. There is no evidence that this kid knew or cared what her politicals views were.

A Kim Bo said:
And thus you’re responsible for fueling their irrational and violent rhetoric.

I’ve watched you in action. You’ve had all kinds of problems defending them with anything other than pathetic manboy rants. Like the one you just made about “LIBERALS somehow hating America”. No wonder the crazies on the Right appeal to you, they make the world seem so simple. According to you liberals are evil and conservatives, like Palin and Beck, LOVE AMERICA, they just hate half of the people who live in it.

SORRY TOOL but this crazy f**k decided to use violence against a Democratic politician who Palin targeted LITERALLY with illusions to gun violence and his youtube videos shows a disdain for money not backed by silver or gold and a serious belief that the end of the world is near. These are BOTH examples of the kind of rhetoric that Beck is forever spewing on about. By giving credence to Palin and Beck, you lend credence to the TACTICS and the RHETORIC that fueled this guy. You must be so proud.

I’m not having any trouble defending them, it’s liberals like you who can’t figure it out. See, I’m coming at the problem from wanting a strong America where success and prosperity are celebrated. Liberals come at the problem with a general hatred for America and Western Civilization and with a goal of forcing everything to be “equal” (Socialism). You guys want things “equal” and we want things better. Better wins every time.

I’m not writing to convince you (because you are stuck with your goofy belief system and you probably can’t adapt), but to other people who just want their country back.

A Kim Bo said:
Sorry, it’s not just the LIBERALS who feel that way. It’s also the SHERIFF in Pima Country who has seen a radical shift in reactionary rhetoric in his state that has led to increases in political violence often aimed at liberals, including against Giffords when she voted for the health care reform, or even Judge John Roll, who was a Bush appointee, when he ruled in favor of an immigrant over a rancher. Sorry but this kind of rhetoric is leading to huge drains on the state because police and other authorities have to provide added security for public officials.

So stop making excuses for the weaknesses of your leaders and pull your head out of the sand. I trust the sheriff about the atmosphere in the growing reactionary stances in Arizona more than I trust the opinion of fake conservative apologists.

The Sheriff didn’t bring up Palin, etc, YOU liberals did. Like it or not and understand it or not, the Sheriff is talking about everyone.

Why don’t you liberals learn to like the country and learn to support law enforcement. You may disagree but the elction was clear: the Democrats lost something like 400 years of Congressional experience.

Now we know you guys won’t change so we should all expect the left to work to suppress speech in some ways.

Alz said:
The CBO reports on what it is given and the so-called $230 billion in savings over 10 years is achieved through $770 billion in new taxes and $540 billion in new spending — remember the new taxes are collected over a ten-year period, while the new spending occurs mostly over a six-year period.

More fuzzy math by the people who think that tax cuts can reduce the deficit even though the very same tax cuts gave us the biggest deficit of any President EVER. Sorry but even John Boehner said the “CBO is entitled to their opinion.” He said those words LAST WEEK. Surely doesn’t sound like the words of a person who wants to listen to the cold hard truths of the CBO when they’re own fuzzy mathematicians will do. The same ones that thought that fighting two unfunded wars would be good for the economy.

If you actually want to know what the CBO said it’s this:

“the CBO, in what it called a preliminary analysis, said that the law’s repeal would cost $145 billion by 2019 and $230 billion by 2021, then swell after that, because various money-saving and revenue-raising provisions would be undone. The 32 million uninsured Americans refers to the number predicted to gain coverage under the law. ”

Again, tools, I make it a habit of believing the REAL EXPERTS not the fake conservative apologists who don’t want to do anything about the dangerous crazy talk on the Right because the Right needs all the crazies it can get.

Alz said:
Like it or not

Like it or not but the two most recent instances where the SHERIFF has had to provide additional protection for politicians due to extreme threats and actual incidents of violence is, unfortunately but ironically for both Gabrielle Gifford after attacks on her office after her health care vote and Judge John Roll after right wing radio host and listeners encouraged violence and even advocated for his death after he sided with an immigrant in a court case.

In the words of the Sheriff he said that “we (Arizona) have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry”. Gee what recent legislation or political actions could possibly have led to Arizona being viewed as prejudiced and bigoted?

But keep on feeding us your apologist schpiel. Or illuminate us to the instances of extreme rhetoric by those on the Left in Arizona that is anywhere near as extreme as LITERALLY targeting a Congresswoman and submitting death threats to a judge.

A Kim Bo said:
remember the new taxes are collected over a ten-year period, while the new spending occurs mostly over a six-year period.

They revised it with new info yesterday that breaks out the numbers, but the time-scales are the same. Don’t you remember when Obama and the liberals scammed us by counting 10 years of taxes and only 6 years of spending? They’re still doing that! Wake up!

A Kim Bo said:
Like it or not but the two most recent instances where the SHERIFF has had to provide additional protection for politicians due to extreme threats and actual incidents of violence is, unfortunately but ironically for both Gabrielle Gifford after attacks on her office after her health care vote and Judge John Roll after right wing radio host and listeners encouraged violence and even advocated for his death after he sided with an immigrant in a court case.

In the words of the Sheriff he said that “we (Arizona) have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry”. Gee what recent legislation or political actions could possibly have led to Arizona being viewed as prejudiced and bigoted?

But keep on feeding us your apologist schpiel. Or illuminate us to the instances of extreme rhetoric by those on the Left in Arizona that is anywhere near as extreme as LITERALLY targeting a Congresswoman and submitting death threats to a judge.

As Ajolily pointed out….
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008
“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010
‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

Do you condemn Obama for all of this nasty language?

A Kim Bo said:
Like it or not but the two most recent instances where the SHERIFF has had to provide additional protection for politicians due to extreme threats and actual incidents of violence is, unfortunately but ironically for both Gabrielle Gifford after attacks on her office after her health care vote and Judge John Roll after right wing radio host and listeners encouraged violence and even advocated for his death after he sided with an immigrant in a court case.

In the words of the Sheriff he said that “we (Arizona) have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry”. Gee what recent legislation or political actions could possibly have led to Arizona being viewed as prejudiced and bigoted?

But keep on feeding us your apologist schpiel. Or illuminate us to the instances of extreme rhetoric by those on the Left in Arizona that is anywhere near as extreme as LITERALLY targeting a Congresswoman and submitting death threats to a judge.

More from your ilk: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:egHLC2hTfZoJ:www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi!-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me!+My-CongressWOMAN-voted-against-Nancy-Pelosi+dailykos&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Alz said:
See, I’m coming at the problem from wanting a strong America where success and prosperity are celebrated

Then why are you defending someone who is advocating a return to very same policies that under the last administration made us weak, unsuccessful, and poor?

Alz said:
Liberals come at the problem with a general hatred for America and Western Civilization

Which is a good a reason as any to take literal aim at a Democrat Congresswoman.

Alz said:
I’m not writing to convince you

No, you’re trying to make sorry ass excuses for attempted assassinations because, after all (according to you) Liberals hate America and with that kind of logic deserve to be taken out. No wonder you’re making excuses for this sorry loser. With your hate-filled spoon-fed rhetoric, you’re on Glock away from being this crazy loon yourself.

Damn, man. Do you ever listen to yourself?

Alz said:
More from your ilk

I’m sorry, I didn’t write that. But since you think a COMMENTER on DailyKos deserves to be held up to the same scrutiny as a NATIONAL POLITICIAN, then I’ll make sure that I use the irrational rantings of the likes of Alz to be a reflection of the likes of John Boehner.

So remember that since Alz said:

“Liberals come at the problem with a general hatred for America and Western Civilization”

That must also mean that John Boehner thinks the exact same thing. BTW, this is just the most recent boneheaded hate-filled stupid thing uttered on this board.

But thanks again for the false equivalency. Now if you could only hold Sarah Palin HALF AS MUCH accountable for her wanton violent rhetoric as you do BOYBLUE from DailyKos, then you might seem like an adult yet.

Alz said:
Don’t you remember when Obama and the liberals scammed us by counting 10 years of taxes and only 6 years of spending? They’re still doing that! Wake up!

I do remember when the BUSH ADMINISTRATION forgot to configure the cost of two wars in their deficit reports. I also remember when they forgot to fund them completely.

I have not heard anyone making an excuse for the attempted assassination. Only opportunist liberals trying to point fingers and be hypocritical. No one has made an excuse for the murderer at all. Not one conservative here or on any blog I have read today has said they think anyone of the victims deserved what they got. In fact most conservatives have been offering prayers and support. Many conservatives admire this congresswoman because she isn’t partisan and she can be worked with. They are outraged about this rampage. Gifford was currently working on a bill I am all for. 5% cut in pay to all congressmen/women. It is simply a fact that no one yet is clear where this wacko is coming from but you liberals don’t even want to take the time to join together in outrage of this injustice. If you don’t want to stop and give your respects and show your outrage then just shut up for awhile so we can.

A Kim Bo said:
Then why are you defending someone who is advocating a return to very same policies that under the last administration made us weak, unsuccessful, and poor?

Which is a good a reason as any to take literal aim at a Democrat Congresswoman.

No, you’re trying to make sorry ass excuses for attempted assassinations because, after all (according to you) Liberals hate America and with that kind of logic deserve to be taken out. No wonder you’re making excuses for this sorry loser. With your hate-filled spoon-fed rhetoric, you’re on Glock away from being this crazy loon yourself.

Damn, man. Do you ever listen to yourself?

You’re knowingly misleading things. If you have heard what Palin and Beck talk about it is CLEARLY MOT GOING BACK TO BUSH’s spending, etc. It’s going back to our Founding ways.

You liberals keep pulling this and you look silly. You don’t control all the media and people can see that Palin, Beck, etc. ARE different.

I know it’s imperative that you not let people see what Plain and Beck are talking about, but you look silly.

A Kim Bo said:
I do remember when the BUSH ADMINISTRATION forgot to configure the cost of two wars in their deficit reports. I also remember when they forgot to fund them completely.

Here’s a nice chart showing the deficit with and without the Iraq War.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/01/warning-do-not-show-this-chart-to.html

You’re funny in saying that Bush “forgot” to fund it properly. The fact is you liberals were a problem with funding because you kept adding in all sorts of pork and liberaldy-guk into the bills.

A Kim Bo said:
I’m sorry, I didn’t write that. But since you think a COMMENTER on DailyKos deserves to be held up to the same scrutiny as a NATIONAL POLITICIAN, then I’ll make sure that I use the irrational rantings of the likes of Alz to be a reflection of the likes of John Boehner.

So remember that since Alz said:

“Liberals come at the problem with a general hatred for America and Western Civilization”

That must also mean that John Boehner thinks the exact same thing. BTW, this is just the most recent boneheaded hate-filled stupid thing uttered on this board.

But thanks again for the false equivalency. Now if you could only hold Sarah Palin HALF AS MUCH accountable for her wanton violent rhetoric as you do BOYBLUE from DailyKos, then you might seem like an adult yet.

DailyKos is your problem. You probably read it so you should police it. With rhetoric like that on there, who knows what that person is capable of. Only in the mind of a liberal.

And talking about accountability:
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008
“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010
‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

Alz said:
Do you condemn Obama for all of this nasty language?

‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

A little over the top…yes. Hahaha but in context, hardly so compared to some of the anti-immigration rhetoric coming from our representatives on the right who have compared hispanics to lepers and terrorists.
Was that speech for votes? ha ha Ooooof course, but hardly incites violence.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ktu/lowres/ktun147l.jpg
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““I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008

Rather than trying to get his supporters to defend him from their teabagging neighbors, I wish he would take his own advice when dealing with the rabid snarling dogs on the other side of aisle. Again. a combative approach, but hardly inciting violence.

In reality this illustration is more accurate
http://politicalgraffiti.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/obama_spineless.jpg
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“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

ha ha yea thought that was kind of funny. Rethugs have the same attitude when they’re in power, except they can actually follow through on it. Dems are all bark and no bite, which brings me to:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.”

Out of all those quotes this one is the most violently suggestive. Obviously a metaphor, like dont retreat,
reload. However! Its not consistent with his overall tone and he doesn’t repeat it over and over and over and over…….and over. Nor does he extend the metaphor into a online diagram with bullet holes on the addresses his rethuglican “enemies”

ha ha In reality this comic strip uses that quote for what it really is
http://www.mattbors.com/archives/706.html

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since i’m on a cartoon rampage right now, who can forget this gem

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/obama-the-chimp.jpg

Alz said:
bundesh

Neither was a lie. Weather Underground was before my time, so it was never shown on the news. It has to be news to be shown on the news. The only place I had heard of it was on Fox (which is not news, you wouldn’t know that unless you have been to another country and seen what news is meant to be, try BBC or something common, or even local news channels of different countries).

And to some other comments, I don’t defend them, nor deny what their intentions may have been. To kill innocent people is not excusable. But they did not kill anyone. That is the difference.

Alz said:
If you have heard what Palin and Beck talk about it is CLEARLY MOT GOING BACK TO BUSH’s spending, etc. It’s going back to our Founding ways

ha ha ha thats what rethuglicans always say. Just like how the democrats always say “we’re gonna end the war!”….. “Universal H.C for all”

Face it, the days of the founding fathers ARE OVER!!!!!!!! They couldn’t even begin to comprehend the world as it is today. Jesus Christ!, and you guys says it’s us Libs who are a bunch of teary eyed idealists, lost in the never ending search for the land of milk and honey. ha ha

Fact: Tea Party members are open records and anyone can see who is who so were is this kooks membership to Tea party? Anyone got a link please post it! If you don’t your just babbling!

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nrgetick said:
‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010 A little over the top…yes. Hahaha but in context, hardly so compared to some of the anti-immigration rhetoric coming from our representatives on the right who have compared hispanics to lepers and terrorists.Was that speech for votes? ha ha Ooooof course, but hardly incites violence. http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ktu/lowres/ktun147l.jpg—————————————————““I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008 Rather than trying to get his supporters to defend him from their teabagging neighbors, I wish he would take his own advice when dealing with the rabid snarling dogs on the other side of aisle. Again. a combative approach, but hardly inciting violence. In reality this illustration is more accuratehttp://politicalgraffiti.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/obama_spineless.jpg—————————————————–“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010 ha ha yea thought that was kind of funny. Rethugs have the same attitude when they’re in power, except they can actually follow through on it. Dems are all bark and no bite, which brings me to: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.” Out of all those quotes this one is the most violently suggestive. Obviously a metaphor, like dont retreat,reload. However! Its not consistent with his overall tone and he doesn’t repeat it over and over and over and over…….and over. Nor does he extend the metaphor into a online diagram with bullet holes on the addresses his rethuglican “enemies” ha ha In reality this comic strip uses that quote for what it really ishttp://www.mattbors.com/archives/706.html ————————————————————————————since i’m on a cartoon rampage right now, who can forget this gem http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/obama-the-chimp.jpg

LOL, you just proved the point. Just as you explained the real intent and content of Obama’s statements.you showed us that you must take it in its content. The right is no more violent then the left. Palins political target was no more than a list of people they wanted to vote against in the elections and everyone knew it but they used and are using it to point at the Tea Party and say “See they are violent”. No one believes that list was a death threat. No more than Obama’s threat to bring a gun was.

It’s times like this I (a libertarian) can just sit back and laugh at the society we’ve created. We deserve everything we get. Good luck, but a police state is becoming increasingly inevitable. Not because of the Government, but because of the people.

btimsah said:
It’s times like this I (a libertarian) can just sit back and laugh at the society we’ve created. We deserve everything we get. Good luck, but a police state is becoming increasingly inevitable. Not because of the Government, but because of the people.

It is times like this that I (an independant conservative christian) agree with you. But I am not laughing, I am greiving.

I wonder why his youtube video where he burns the flag was left out of this article.

Well azinamorata, we know it couldn’t possibly be because it doesn’t fit the leftist media template that he was a tea-partier.

Atticus Draco says:
“you gotta be a left wingnut,” and without the slightest hint of self-aware irony adds, “you’re jumping to conclusions”

Wingnuts are on the right. Extremists on the left are loons. Count on reactionaries for misunderstand reality.

The sheriff of Pima County, Clarence Dupnik, said “the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government” may have triggered Loughner’s rampage. “There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue and I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said at a Tucson news conference.

He’s talking about Beck mostly, although I doubt that Loughners was a follower of that vitriolic reactionary, not if two of his favorite books are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kempf.

Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, points out that Beck is covering the seven stages of genocide: 1) dehumanization. When Beck compares Obama to Lucifer and goes “progressive hunting,” that’s dehumanization. 2) Classification, the separating of “Us” and “Them,” as in “we surround them.” 3) Polarization. This is Beck’s specialty. Then he whines, hypocritically, about why we’re divided. 4) Denial. Watch Fox at 5:00 tomorrow. Just like he denied having anything to do with Byron Williams’ attempted mass murder, he’ll deny any contribution to the vitriol that Pupnik is still talking about today.

Kim Barker said:
And I pray that those who have condoned the TONE of violence to be used by their politicians and their talking point gurus will start rejecting that tone as irresponsible and reprehensible. In other words, stop parroting the words of people who enjoy invoking fear and violent allusions into the discourse whenever they don’t get their way.

Fair enough.

GlennBeckReview said:
He’s talking about Beck mostly, although I doubt that Loughners was a follower of that vitriolic reactionary, not if two of his favorite books are The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kempf.

I read about you today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder

I knew your obsession with Mr. Beck could not be laid aside during this time when the rational people of the United States are grieving over the tragic loss of their fellow Americans and the grievous wounding of one of our elected representatives.

Man, you need help!

the reactionary and deluded pydope says:
“I knew your obsession with Mr. Beck could not be laid aside during this time when the rational people of the United States are grieving over the tragic loss of their fellow Americans and the grievous wounding of one of our elected representatives.”

I’m grieving too, a-hole, probably far more than you. Who, sock-puppet Pydope, do you think that the sheriff of Pima County, Clarence Dupnik, was talking about if not Glenn Beck?

Oh, sock puppet, still waiting for your name? Huh, sock puppet. We need your name or an admission that you’re a coward and a hypocrite….like Beck.