A Mostly Calm Discussion From Polar Opposites About The “Ground Zero Mosque”

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by Steve Krakauer | 4:11 pm, September 13th, 2010

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Pamela Gellar, of Stop Islamization of America, and New Black Panther Party Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz disagree about almost all “Ground Zero Mosque” issues.

But on Friday the two got the time to each give their takes, as divided as they were, in a mostly calm discussion on FBN’s Money Rocks.

It was a far cry from the “worst ground zero mosque debate ever” that got some attention recently for Eric Bolling‘s 8pmET Fox Business Network program. While this one involved just about as many interviewees, the tone was decidedly different.

It still included some, well, strong statements. Gellar said of Imam Rauf: “Clearly he’s threatening us with Jihad.” (Earlier in the show, Rep. Peter King said “It’s almost like he’s blackmailing or threatening the United States.”)

Meanwhile, Shabazz said, “This whole attitude of intolerance and bigotry towards Muslims in America is very ignorant and it’s immature.” Ok – and then he began to question whether Muslims were behind 9/11.

There was some minor points of agreement in there as well – Gellar said “we love Muslims!” and later Shabazz said, “I can understand some being upset, don’t get me wrong, but be just as outraged that the United States is best friends with Saudi Arabia.”

Meanwhile Hendrik Hertzberg wants to move the “Ground Zero Mosque”…to ground zero.

Here’s the full a-block:

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Latin2

One of the persons behind the Ground Zero Mosque is also a 9/11 Truther and said that the U.S. attacked itself
Pablo

Meanwhile, Shabazz said, “This whole attitude of intolerance and bigotry towards Muslims in America is very ignorant and it’s immature.”

Right. It’s nothing like his well developed, deeply considered hatred of white people.
Big Eddie

Malik Zulu Shabazz . Too many Z s ,guy …. Can a Muslim be a Cracker , Z ? … Please explain .
The Real Royal King

Pablo said:
Right. It’s nothing like his well developed, deeply considered hatred of white people.

Yes, poor Whites. Don’t have a chance in Amerika. Particularly, white males. Even more so white Christian males.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Malik Shabazz said:
“This whole attitude of intolerance and bigotry towards Muslims in America is very ignorant and it’s immature.”

Pablo said:
Right. It’s nothing like his well developed, deeply considered hatred of white people.

The Real DingDong said:
Yes, poor Whites. Don’t have a chance in Amerika. Particularly, white males. Even more so white Christian males.

Pablo did not say or imply that whites, or more specifically white males, have no chance in America. He was commenting on the ridiculous hypocrisy of a completely hate filled racist like Shabazz commenting on intolerance and bigotry, when he is one of the most racist and intolerant individuals in the public eye. Everyone knows this is true.

Perhaps you should get back to writing poems, DingDong. They’re funnier (but not by much) than the inane comments you post on here.
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

Andy Lamb said:
Pablo did not say or imply that whites, or more specifically white males, have no chance in America. He was commenting on the ridiculous hypocrisy of a completely hate filled racist like Shabazz commenting on intolerance and bigotry, when he is one of the most racist and intolerant individuals in the public eye. Everyone knows this is true. Perhaps you should get back to writing poems, DingDong. They’re funnier (but not by much) than the inane comments you post on here.

Hypocrisy?!?

“we love Muslims!”
–Pamela Gellar, of Stop Islamization of America

–Cobra
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

I find it very interesting that Malik Zulu Shabazz, with an organization whose membership couldn’t fill a school bus, is apparently on speed dial for Fox News. Shabazz, whose New Black Panther Party has been DISCREDITED by the original Black Panthers has appeared on Fox News more times than the chairman of the NAACP and National Urban League combined.

Having Malik Zulu Shabazz on Fox News this many times would be akin to BET having Fred Phelps, pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church host round table discussions.

–Cobra
Pablo

Hey Cobra, speaking of the Black Panthers, is it time to go all Malcolm X on the new Malik Shabazz yet?
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

Pablo said:
Hey Cobra, speaking of the Black Panthers, is it time to go all Malcolm X on the new Malik Shabazz yet?

Attacking Black people is YOUR job on Mediaite. If I took that role on, you’d be reduced to maligning gays and begging for tax cuts.

–Cobra
Pablo

Oh, come on Darren. Surely you can share some of your love for Ward Connerly with us!
SpineCrusher

I can’t believe that he actually tried to compare building a cultural center in Manhatten to burning a Qu’ran down in Florida.

My jaw dropped on that one.

So this is the debate in a nutshell.

Against: The ground-zero super-mosque is being created to celebrate Islam’s victory in killing Americans on 9/11. This is a slap in the face to all Americans. This mosque is being build by radical jihadists who want to bring Sharia law to America. They are being insensitive to the hallowed ground by buildling it on a graveyard.

For: This is a cultural center that will welcome and have access for all religious demoninations. We will have swimming pools and basketball courts and a 5,000 seat ampitheatre to help build a bridge with the rest of the community.

So who’s the moderate voice here?

…and why are they calling it a “graveyard” all of a sudden. I wonder what religious denomination the landing gear was?
fah4d

Pam geller is a zionist whore
fah4d

Shabazz was right when he talked about Bush and the Bin Laden family being in bed together. Bush is the only person who knows where Bin laden is.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

fah4d said:
Bush is the only person who knows where Bin laden is.

This made me laugh pretty hard. Thank you much, a good hard laugh is good for both the body and the soul. Thanks again.
da-wdc

Why are these two clowns on a business network? Why are they on ANY network?
More Liberty

He makes a fair pointabout Saudi Arabia. That county is more or less like South Africa during apartied. Women are treated as property, and like dogs. Where is the outrage? Harvard won’t allow, or didn’t, military recruiters but is more than happy to accept millions from Saudi royalty.
CAconservative

When the hell did any legitimate news agency start giving anything approaching credence to radical groups like the Black Panthers? Anyone who grew up in California’s northern Bay-area when these clowns started, know full well what they’re all about.
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

Pablo said:
Oh, come on Darren. Surely you can share some of your love for Ward Connerly with us!

Ward Connerly? What does he have to do with my statement?

“”One of your critics says: ‘For someone to stand within the ranks and say ‘I’m not black,’ but use it to destroy his own people, that’s the kind we label a traitor.’ That’s how you’re perceived by many people in the black community. ‘I’m not black,’ says Ward Connerly.”

http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/1997/nq19971201.asp

“I’m not ‘black.’ That chair you are sitting on is black,” he said. “Literally, I’m brown. You are not ‘white’ either. That folder is white.”

http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=11757

Yes, Pablo. Ward Connerly is the punk I drew these cartoons about.
http://www.thecobraslair.com/National%20Issues.html

By his OWN WORDS, I was not attacking a “Black” person.

Are you calling Ward Connerly a LIAR, Pablo?

–Cobra