Note to Rachel Maddow :

if you wanted “an adult” in the White House – maybe you should have supported the responsible Democrat in the primaries who actually had experience in governing – instead of getting all caught up in the hype of hope and all that “post-racial” feel good “shuck and jive” me-me-me bs…

ex political-media hack says:
June 16, 2010 at 10:29 am

hear hear!!

Well if you want adult speak you need an adult. As I watched the speech last night, maybe because I was watching in HD. That I suddenly realized how young a frail he looks. He is a great speaker, but he does nothing to satisfy my intellectual needs, and now I see Rachel Maddow has the same problem…..

from ann kornblut at the wash post -

“Privately, one senior official said the speech was a direct effort to “wipe the slate clean,” adding that the goal now is to “shift the conversation to something more future-oriented.

Senior administration officials said Obama’s address — which they described as coming at an “inflection point” in the crisis — will help adjust the nation’s focus from the immediate spill to a longer-term strategy for restoring the gulf region and changing the way the country uses energy”

as always and with all things…its always about Obama….

Look, the speech was just indicative of Obama and his leadership style. As I have said before, “Obama is a man with a plan.” However, that plan doesn’t include emergencies or changing realities.

The man came into the White House with a goal of universal healthcare, a goal for cap and trade, a goal to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. And those are where he’s focused his attention, that’s what he wants to do, and that’s what he feels passionate about.

It’s all the other stuff (the oil spill only being the most recent) which shows why he was a poor choice for this position. He does not adapt to changing circumstances, he only wants to do what he wants to do. To me, he looked bored by the whole topic, uninterested in “fixing” anything. He just wants it to be over, so he can get back to doing what he wants to do.

It’s all about flexibility… and that is not his strong suit.

Obama came to the WH with one plan – for his narcissistic ego to be gratified.

the man is the king of N.P.D.

Burnnotice says:
“Well if you want adult speak you need an adult. As I watched the speech last night, maybe because I was watching in HD. That I suddenly realized how young a frail he looks.”

I’m no Obama supporter but I think we can all agree that it is a very stressful job. These guys get in there and age significantly. Looks are irrelevant.

Dang liberal MSNBC, all they do is cheer lead for Obama.

They were cheerleaders. But when even the cheerleaders start turning on the team, the team must be doing something wrong.

shoot, apparently you missed mika this morning. dipshit.

It is more understandable for the liberals, like Maddow and KO to be mad at Obama because they, idealogically, are in favor of government regulation and involvement in business matters, and ecological impacts. Obama has not acted with a heavy federal hand, besides a very little tough talk, in reality. Those on the right, on the other hand, who do not believe that the government should get involved in private business matters, should be applauding Obama for not being too aggressive.

Joe and Mika at msnbc are still sipping the kool-ade, in fact, they seem to be guzzling it more than ever.

COnstant, that statement would have carried more weight if you refrained from name-calling.

News flash, valk. When the oil spill affects the entire gulf and thousands of people, it’s no longer a private matter. Your stereotype that conservatives want no government involvement in anything whatsoever is incorrect. You’re merely trying to downplay your favorite president’s part in all this.

shootfromthehip says:
June 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm

Dang liberal MSNBC, all they do is cheer lead for Obama.”

Hey lib, this is on here because it is so UNUSUAL.

Those on the right, on the other hand, who do not believe that the government should get involved in private business matters, should be applauding Obama for not being too aggressive.”

The govt. is already heavily involved in private business matters but this is not a “private” matter.

Obama has a “part in all this”? You worship the capitalist model, and when a private company, out in deep water, has its oil rig catch on fire, you want the federal government to come in and start issuing orders? And BP was claiming from the beginning that they had it under control, and the oil industry assured everyone that the technology to cleam up the spill would be 95% effective. And when Obama finally announces that a full regulatory investigation of the matter must be undertaken your side screamed, we do not need regulation, drill baby drill. LOL.

I didn’t agree with Keith’s or Rachel’s assesments last night but, I love both of their shows and will continue to watch. I think they like many were expecting a Climate Change/Energy Policy speech and that just would not have been appropriate. This speech was about BP and the people who are affected by it. While the President touched on the need to pass legislation going forward, I thought he struck the right tone in terms of what’s being done to mitigate this current situation. Oddly, I’ve yet to hear from any of the pundits what they thought about the fact that Jindal has 17,000 National guard troops at his disposal and has only called up 1,100 and he’s also got a 40 million dollar grant from BP but, has spent very little of it. Even the New Orleans Times Picayune published an article on May 30th asking the same thing. And as I’ve asked this question before I’ll ask it again, has anyone seen Bobby Jindal lately? Where the hell is he?

I can’t trust anything Racial Madcow says.

valk, part of those regulations were that instead of drilling on land or in shallow water where spills could be more easily controlled, the oil companies were forced into deeper water where spills are almost impossible to control. Thank your left wing buddies for that one. One of your left wing idols, the hypocrite Ted Kennedy, was a good example of your left wing thinking. He pissed and moaned about wanting alternative forms of energy, then bitched when he thought windmills were going to be placed within view of his beachfront home.

Yep, the phone rang at 4am, and no one was at home. Still ain’t.

writer,
Hey, the federal government has no authority under the Constitution to interfere in private corporate matters. Isn’t that the tea party argument? Regulation, taxes, bailouts, all unconstitutional. Right? And Rand Paul is arguing, hey, stop being so hard on BP. Seeing the tea party crowd finally recognizing that the Federal government is important, and definitely part of the equation in our economy, and protecting our environment, and the problems that arise, is fun to watch. But most of those people are so partisan, and simply hate Obama for other reasons, that now they have jumped their own ship to blame the Federal government for not being more heavy handed.

But give me my gov’t money (Rand Paul).

2 puppets….

valkyrie: I know it’s fun to try and pretend that the “tea party crowd” hates all government intervention, and are therefore hypocritical if they now want Obama to “do something,” but unfortunately that’s just not the case. the tea partiers want LIMITED government, not NO government. so that’s a huge old straw man.

as far as “hat[ing] Obama for other reasons” (omg what COULD you be referring to?) let me remind you that Obama was at around 65% approval when he was inaugurated. somehow, he’s lost 25 points or so. I’m gonna have to believe that it’s something he’s doing (or not doing) that’s making people dislike him. I know you’d like to think it’s because he’s black. sorry to disabuse you of that notion.

This is why I watch MSNBC.

You get ALL sides represented. The hosts are not partisan robots (see Sean Hannity or Fox & Friends).

They even have a show hosted by a real conservative (“Morning Joe”).

What’s the show on Fox hosted by a Democrat again?

Oh that’s right, there is none.

ruth,
The country is polarized with one side essentially saying we are going to undermine everything you do so that we can blame you and vote ourselves back into office. And the Republican leaders have stated that, explicitly. So with the country so sharply divided, it is no wonder that people are losing confidence. When the opposing party, generally, says, ok, this is the duly elected President and government, let’s show our support because they represent the fruit of our cherished democratic system, then you will see resolution of problems happening everywhere.

Okay, valk. You’re saying the tea party wants government out of business. The left is always saying it wants more government control. So why are you now arguing that the feds have nothing to do with the oil spill, and it’s all local and private? If the left is for more government control, why are you bending over backwards to defend Obama’s inaction? Seems like you’d be blaming the feds for not doing more.

I am addressing the blatant hypocrisy of the right. Obama is a moderate. He tries to find a middle ground.

It’s amazing to watch the rats scurry from the sinking ship of the -0bama regime. Even now there is much talk that his will be the worst presidency in history–even worse than Jimmy Carter’s–and THAT is saying something.

As for Mr. -0bama being “the man with the plan” that is what worries the hell out of sane people.

-0bama is a moderate? Have you been dropping LSD Valkyrie? You MUST be totally OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!!!

@valkyrie101

Capitalism doesn’t work like that. Aside from the fact that we haven’t had capitalism for decades; rather ‘creditism’, which is killing this country faster than anything else.

In free market capitalism, the solution for the oil crisis would come from the fishermen, coastal residents and sovereign states that would sue BP into oblivion. It would come from the public outcry and boycotts against BP’s products and, if people were vigilant enough, any company associated with them. American oil companies and their foreign cousins would take note of the severity of the penalties and police themselves. Besides, the government is really powerless to do anything about this!

Sure, there will come tough words and a few new regulations. But the regulations in place were enough to deal w/ this. The government dropped the ball. And that’s nothing new.

What’s bothering is when government steps in the way of the free market. The best example that comes to mind is Bush giving Big Pharma the lawsuit shield. If they put out some drug that screws people up, there is no recourse. It’s completely twisted. Another might be the AT&T wiretaps. WTF?

It’s time for people to realize that government is just a tool of the corporations that sponsor it. Doesn’t matter who’s in charge. You can vote left or right. They’re just playing your tune. In the end, there is no difference.

You are not an objective observer, pyrope. Much to the dismay of those on left, Obama has continued the Bush wars in the middle east, even increasing our efforts in Afganistan. Personally, I am glad he did that, because I believe that it is crucially important to protect Pakistan from the taliban people, but that foreign policy is far from left wing. Correct? And Obama is getting much criticism from the left for not pushing more aggressively on, for example, a full public option during the health care reform debate. He has been slow on many of the other liberal agendas as well. Obama is a moderate, that’s reality.

Obama is a liberal who was forced to take some more moderate positions by reality.

valkyrie101, i must agree with writer; he was never a professor (as he claimed to have been) but he taught the alinsky philosophy which is anything but moderate. all his chicago pals–ayers, dorn, rezco, blagojvich, wright, pfleger, et al are also immoderate. one is known by the company they keep and this makes Mr. -0bama a thoroughly dangerous man. he HATES capitalism, he has said that the US is no longer a Christain nation (I kind of agree with that), he has refused to attend the National Day of Prayer or the Congressional Prayer Breakfast, but he has prayed at the mosque in DC on at least two occasions. In short, Mr. -0bama hates everything that has made the United States the greatest country on Earth! He has refused (as Mr. Bush did) to secure our borders and he has tried to usurp the 10th Amendment when the State of Arizona sought to do the job that the Federal government will not do. I could go on for days but I doubt you’d listen…or understand the gravity of his anti-American philosophy.

pyrope,
Sounds like you do not believe in the American system of Democracy, because if you believed in that system you would have confidence that the man chosen by our nation to be President, in a fair election, by a majority of the American people, deserves our support. That has always been the American way… until recently. Now, during war, the opposition party joins with the enemy is condemning not just its African American President, but sullies the position of the President, and thus America itself.

valkyrie, you are beyond niaive. throughout our history–war or no war–people have been free to voice their concerns–founded or fair or unfounded or unfair–toward all stations of government. -0bama is not your lamb being led to the slaughter by his distractors.

And this is NOT a democracy, it is a republic.