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Rick Perry Makes Post-Debate Gaffe: ‘We Fought The Revolution In The 16th Century’

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The political sphere — from the venerated marble monoliths of Washington DC to the fine film of perspiration and Funyun dust lining the keyboards of so many online commenters — is a strange one, and one that has taken an increasingly disturbing, if anthropologically fascinating, turn in recent times. Sometimes, perhaps because they’re nervous or impassioned or high on adrenaline, politicians get their facts wrong. It’s embarrassing, certainly, but they’re mostly human beings, and these things happen. But, as politics is a team sport where anyone with internet access has the potential to become a rabid hooligan, instead of demanding or expecting an apology when politicians inevitably stumble over their words or confuse their facts, people defend them. People defend them even if it means wrestling with semantics or fashioning historical timelines into a series of elaborate knots.

So it’ll be interesting to see how people who are not just supporters of GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry, but fans of his particular team (and members of the opposing team) will react to a gaffe he made following last night’s Republican debate. Here is how MSNBC described the hiccup in history:

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The Texas governor was comparatively energetic at his stop at the Beta Theta Pi fraternity on the Dartmouth College campus, taking questions on energy policy, Social Security, and states rights.

But he stumbled in his answer to a young woman’s question about states’ rights; Perry said that one of the “reasons we fought the revolution in the 16th century was to get away from that kind of onerous crown.”

The Revolutionary War was fought in the 18th century.

Not only that, it was fought against an advancing alien army, from another dimension, who were upset with the founding fathers’ decision to free the slaves and who wanted desperately to offer Paul Revere a reality series aimed at finding him a date, the rather saucily-named Riding with Revere. Maybe. Or not!

Again, everyone makes mistakes. Maybe Perry became confused over how centuries are named, jumping to a number ahead instead of a number following. Maybe he was caught up in the moment and didn’t realize what he’d said. What we’re more interested in is how this will be spun and how, exactly, it will be reported on and built into a wider narrative. Thanks to the hyperactive television news cycle and the internet, we now have greater access to candidates than ever before. We spend more time with them and they are better able to reach out to their supporters and detractors, often without the benefit of a prepared statement or teleprompter. So, naturally, they are going to make more mistakes and we are going to hear about them. And it’s not so much how politicians themselves deal with these gaffes that is interesting (or infuriating), but how those who either love or hate them and keeping tabs on them on home react and spin. And spin. And spin. So. We shall see.

h/t MSNBC.com

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  • mosesdinoark

    Typical flag waving Repug who dont even know their beloved country’s own history. ” A Book? Whats that?  I like me bible though!”

  • Anonymous

    Well he probably just misspoke after a long day on the campaign trail
    It will be forgotten
    I’m sure all of the wonderful people who call themselves Republicans would never make fun of such a gaffe if the President were to do the same

  • Anonymous

    Mediaite wouldn’t report it if Obama made the gaffe.

  • mosesdinoark

    The dumber part of his quote that proves he doesnt know what he is talking about is :”they’d just had this experience with this far-away government that had centralized thought-process and planning and what you have you.”

    He makes it sound like Americans won independence from Soviet Russia. That’s not an innocent gaffe but either a fundamental misunderstanding or history –or a twisting of history to suit his ideological needs. 

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Perry was only off by a few hundred years, for him that’s a good day

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

    yea, hands down a bigger gaffe than claiming their are 57 states, or calling the mexican holiday “cinco de cuatro“, or giving an asthmatic child a breathalizer, or pronouncing “corpsman” as “corpse man”, etc., etc., etc.,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8

  • http://twitter.com/gadfly666 gadfly666

    Facts are for elites.

    Such gaffes will only help Rick Perry. Low-IQ Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers will now relate to him even more and would like to have a beer with him.

    Dumber the better for Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers.

  • Anonymous

    250 yrs early Rick. 

  • Anonymous

    Help Perry like you claimed it would help Sarah.Where is she now? 

  • Jooce81

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    guess I was wrong

  • Anonymous

    If you watched the ’57 states’ video properly then you’d realise he never claimed there were 57 states – you could argue that he claimed there were 60, or you could realise that he meant 47 when he said the number 57 and that he was talking about the 50 states.

    His comment was along the lines of ‘We have been to 57 states, they wouldnt let me go to Hawaii or Alaska and we have 1 more to go to tomorrow.” which makes 60.

    The right wing picked up on the number 57 so as to try and suggest that BO was ignorant about the nation when all he had done was said the wrong number.

    Rick Perry’s 16th Century mistake is no different, a clumsy slip that happens when you are more interested in providing the answer than thinking about the number you are saying. Clearly Perry had a momentary brain fart and he deducted 1 instead of adding 1.

  • Anonymous

    If you watched the ’57 states’ video properly then you’d realise he never claimed there were 57 states – you could argue that he claimed there were 60, or you could realise that he meant 47 when he said the number 57 and that he was talking about the 50 states.

    His comment was along the lines of ‘We have been to 57 states, they wouldnt let me go to Hawaii or Alaska and we have 1 more to go to tomorrow.” which makes 60.

    The right wing picked up on the number 57 so as to try and suggest that BO was ignorant about the nation when all he had done was said the wrong number.

    Rick Perry’s 16th Century mistake is no different, a clumsy slip that happens when you are more interested in providing the answer than thinking about the number you are saying. Clearly Perry had a momentary brain fart and he deducted 1 instead of adding 1.

  • Anonymous

    Technically, he was only out by 100 years. The gap between the 16th and 18th century is after all only 100 years (the part where the 17th century fits in)

    The word ‘few’ usually means 3 or more. This means you were more wrong than Perry as you claimed he was (a few hundred) 300 years out when he was only off by 100.

    However, Perry is still a fool.

  • Scarlet_begonias81

    Republicans jumped on that like a druggie on crack.. and they STILL don’t let him forget it.. Michelle Bachmann said that the Fathers of our country didn’t believe in slavery, even though  many of them actually OWNED slaves?!!?  she knows absolutely NOTHING About our history.. probably just as much as any of the fools up on that GOP stage..  whether or not people call it a “gaffe” even if it IS a simple mistake..

  • Anonymous

    1776 – 177 = 1599
    1599 was the 16th century.
    At most Perry was out by 177 years, so you are out by 73 years, that makes you roughly 2.4 times better than Perry. Did you ever consider joining in the GOP nominations, they need more math experts like you ;)

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again! So in your world the 16th century started and ended on 1599?

  • Anonymous

    Let me break it down for ya.
    1501 to 1600 = 16th century
    War of the Revolution 1775 to 1783
    1777
    - 1527
    = 250
    I’m been generous by not using the earlier dates from the 16th.

  • Bob Uda

    We cannot have this idiot serve as POTUS.  His ship is sinking fast and people are leaving in droves just as rats bailing out of a sinking ship.  From a former Perry supporter.

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

    ok, he slipped up and made a mistake and honestly said the wrong number (a mistake that GWB would never get away with by the libs). now how about giving me an excuse for all the other gaffes that i pointed out. i know that every politician can slip up and make a verbal mistake. but for some reason a verbal mistake by any republican is proof positive of complete stupidity whereas democrats just misspeak out of exhaustion or whatever. if libs want to play the game that gaffes by republicans is a true sign of low intelligence than that same standard should apply to democrats as well.

  • Allenridge

    Everything and everybody will be ok……………….Just vote Romney in 2012………………. the Non-Ideologue

  • Anonymous

    Rep lack of intelligence rears its ugly head on a regular basis as they just dont listen to what has been said.

    You are a good case in point, I already said that Obama AND Perry had made a simple slip of the tongue. I am a liberal (actually I prefer the term socialist, but you lot always mistake that for the word commie) so, I am a liberal and I said I think it was a simple slip by Perry. I think Perry as a person sucks, that doesn’t mean I have to find fault with every time he makes a mistake

    As for GWB getting away with the wrong number, I am pretty sure you’ll find that’s how he got elected in the first place… http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1095

  • Anonymous

    no, let me break dance for you.
    1.  Perry is an idiot.
    2. 16th and 18th century are only 100 years apart.
    3. Perry is still an idiot.
    4. US revolution 1775
    5. 1775 – 176 = 1599
    7. did you notice I missed number 6?
    8. 1599 was definitely in the 16th century (I know, I googled it)
    IX. you were technically out by 74 years and Perry was out by 176
    c. In England we call it Maths.

  • Anonymous

    If you were born on December the 31st 1599 and lived until January the 1st 1701 your life would have spanned 3 centuries but your age would be 101 years.

  • http://steviethek.wordpress.com steviethek

    I’d bet he knows there aren’t 57 states, however.

  • Anonymous

    Well your assumption is that he new when Revolutionary war was could be your first mistake. The war was 1775 which is 18th century. If it were 1575 which is 16th century he would be off by 200 years.
    As for term few, some define it as more than one others 3 or more. I do agree with your point that Perry is a fool

  • AliveStillKickin

    Wasn’t Perry a “corpse” man at one time?

    Where’s the REAL birth certificate?

  • Anonymous

    The major issue between us seems to be the word few. I look at it like this: I go to a bar with some friends or alone… I go to the barkeep and say ‘can I have a beer’ or ‘can I have a couple of beers’ or ‘can I have a few beers’ – when I say the last one he always says ‘wtf do you mean a few beers’ and I respond with ‘three’ … which I think you will find settles the matter nicely.

    I must congratulate you for agreeing that Perry really is a fool – I have met a few (more than 2) fools and he has to be the biggest.

    :D

  • http://twitter.com/JoAnnRoss JoAnn Ross

    Since we’ve all suffered our own screw-up moments, although I’d never vote for him, I can empathize. Still, reading all the hilarious and creative #PerryHistory tweets last night added some much needed levity to a grim political year. 

  • Nature Freak

    Rick Perry meant the English Reformation of the 16th century and the “onerous crown” refers to the Pope.

    That’s my spin.

  • Nature Freak

    Books and learning are for Homosexuals, Europeans and Marxists.
    Real American patriots take pride in illiteracy, dumbness and ignorance. Learning “facts” will only drive you into the arms of the devil.

  • Nature Freak

    Considering how Obama haters love using the 57 state meme, I do not feel sorry for Perry or conservatives in general. BTW, Rick Perry comes of as someone who associates intelligence/ being learned as effete behavior. I actually like the idea of a President being a little geeky or nerdy, but I guess that makes me unAmerican.

  • Anonymous

    So what for the Perry gaffe, would take a book to put down Obama’s and an encylopedia for Joe Biden’s.

  • Nature Freak

    Rick Perry perhaps meant the Revolution in 16th century BCE Egypt, where the Hyksos took over Egypt thus beginning the Fifteenth Dynasty. Rick Perry forgot to mention the BC or BCE part.

    Rick Perry takes a long and deep view of World and American history and how they are interlinked. He is way to intelligent and brilliant for his own good.

  • Nature Freak

    Where’s the REAL birth certificate?

    Ask Orly Taitz. I am sure she knows.

  • Anonymous

    That’s okay…obama thinks we have 57 states.

  • Anonymous

    Now I go to a bar and have 2 beers which could be a couple but I view it as first and last  which is more than one but not two or three. Somtimes 4. LOL

  • Hagen619dj

    Just like Christopher….must make sure he points out mistakes of any GOP candidate. 

  • Anonymous

    Really?

  • Anonymous

    Yep!

  • Anonymous

    It was the 16th Millennium, and Han Solo piloted the 16th Millennium Falcon. 

  • Anonymous

    Nah. That Pope was the ornery cuss.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure you remember every last one Obama made, and they would fit on a single sheet of paper.

  • Anonymous

    A little education is a dangerous thing. Go to school. Live dangerously.
    From the opening subtitle of the movie: Lord Love a Duck

  • Anonymous

    It takes at least 50 of them to make a lib start counting.

  • Nature Freak

    How could I have forgotten that? And I graduated with a minor in history.

    Devils Spawn, best explanation thus far.

    The Perry’s are hardcore Evangelicals apparently. The God of Reverend Jeffries and the Perry family really likes Rick. Perhaps my Pope comment had some validity! Freudian slip? LOL!
    http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/10/anita-perry-husband-rick-perry.html

  • Nature Freak

    Pope Pius V of the counter reformation? 
    He was not happy with Queen Elizabeth I.
    I am not a Christian, but I do feel that the protestant reformation in England helped pave the way for the United States. Including our institutions. It still is a major influence today in the US. Despite this, I do not consider us in this day and age to be a “Christian Nation”, yet it is a major influence. But not the only one.

    After all, the architecture of Washington DC is pagan Greco Roman. America is complicated. Sometimes I consider us to be a post Christian nation.

  • Anonymous

    That makes me the ornery cuss.
    My all time favorite Pope was Hilarious, just because of the name he chose.
    I agree that we are a Christian nation by culture. So is Canada and the rest of the Western world. We make Christmas a big holiday, though the timing was set to compete with pagans and their winter solstice festivities, and the big symbol is a pagan tree. (Coniferous trees are pagan. Deciduous trees are Christian.)

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