I can’t wait for him to lose this election for President so he can finally go away.

if nothing else, Ron is and has been consistent. Liberals would have criticized Bush for the same adventures Obama is engaged in. And conversely, conservatives are criticizing Obama though he’s been nothing but an little inauthentic George W. Bush

War is hell, Ron.

why? because you dont like the Constitution?

So does the ACLU and Glenn Greenwald. Look for more leftists as the day “progresses”.

Congratulations Ron Paul..  I am a right winger, and could have probably found an excuse to vote for you over Obama up until this moment. 

 I always thought you were a little kooky, a little out there…kinda like the GOP’s version of Dennis Kucinich.
 
But when you see issues with America taking out a declared enemy of our country who was the catalyst for the FT Hood Shootings, the Time Square Bomber, and whatever else, and is still actively and effectively facilitating attacks on our soil, you have lost my support completely.
 
Amazingly enough…I think Obama would be a better Pres than you.  At least he’s willing to kill these bastards.  
 
 

i didn’t know we were at war with yemen pablo

let those without insurance die,but, bitch over a terrorist

i’m with paul on this one

where/how does the president have the authority to assassinate a US citizen?

you call him a terrorist.  fine.

but what about proof that he is?  you know, proof IN COURT?

I can’t stand Paul for most things he stands for…but really, you are going to bitch slap him because we didn’t follow due process.

I don’t know how I feel about this, but I have no problem with anyone having an issue with “not following the rules” regardless whether the guy is an enemy of the state or not.  Lest I forget, we are Americans and we do it better than those shitheads out there…aren’t we supposed to?

Didn’t you get you liberal talking point memo?
You are not suppose to use the word “terrorist”, it has been changed to “man made disaster”!
Preferably “American made disaster”!

so, tell us colorado_con—

you don’t see *any* problems with giving the president the authority
to assassinate american CITIZENS without due process?

it doesn’t matter if he’s a “terrorist”.  what matters is the crimes he has
purportedly committed.  they must be PROVED to a judge/jury.  

Great. Now teaparty republitards want to see the birth certificates of terrorists!!!!!!!

right on brother

You’ve lost the party already, do you understand that…the youth have already overtaken the Republican party its a message of liberty, less government and non-interventionalism.  We could have done this differently, that is all that he is saying.  Letters of Marque, or tried him in absentia.  Go start your own party the Republican party belongs to us now the democrats need help.

No let a person who could afford insurance and not choose to get it…go bankrupt…live and learn a lesson.

Dammit Paul, I want to vote for you so badly, but then I remember where you stand on these foreign policy issues. 

Due process my ass.  Swearing oath to UBL and plotting the murders of our citizens over in Yeman as far as I’m concerned is renouncing citizenship and all the rights contained therein.

Rest in Hell dude.

what “war”?

I agree, there is a slippery slope…especially taking into account that he is an American Citizen, but every once in a great while, I believe we have to make excpetions.

Regarding the law itself, I’m sure Obama, prior to issuing the order had extensive legal advice.  So to talk specifically within the confines of the law, I assume this was absolutly legal.

Regarding the moral implications of he being an American Citizen, I would offer that the spirit of his American Citizenship was surely forfieted through his actions, and his behavior was openly treasonous. 

I dont have that guy “Treason Detector” around to start yammering on about the nuances of the law in terms of Treason in the US, but I assume its still punishable by death.

We elect our leaders to make tough descisions and take descisive action on potentially lethal issues that fall within the “grey” area that I think you are refferring to.

Anyway, the Obama Administration has been a complete mess, but I am behind him regarding the killing of OBL, this knucklehead, and the increased use of Drone attacks in the mountains of Pakistan.

That or I am sick and tired of this hypocrite.

Who could possibly be o.k. with a President having an American assassinated without so much as a trial?  Please tell me no Republicans actually think this is o.k.?

If you think this is o.k. then you are not a Republican.

Obama killed a terrorist, so I have to praise him.
But the terrorist is an American citizen, so I have to criticize him.
WHAT SHOULD I DO??
WHAT SHOULD I THINK??
RUSH!!! SEAN!!! TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!!
 

Disappointingly, I’ve been getting into flame wars all morning with my fellow conservatives regarding this issue.  Like Ron Paul, I find the action taken against Anwar al-Awlaki disturbing for the same reason I’ve stated elsewhere.  Regardless of his hostile intent, he was an American CITIZEN, protected under the umbrella of our constitutional guarantees.  Had we found a way to circumvent US Supreme Court decisions that prohibits the stripping of one’s citizenship status without the permission of the individual, then I would probably feel different. 

HEAR HEAR

Only if Ron Paul cared this much about sick Americans or even his dead campaign advisor. THe compassion flows for our enemies but not for his brother and sister. Hypocrite 

Really?  So the repulican party would no longer be supportive of killing an American citizen that lives in yemen, whom we have no access to legal or otherwise,  who was the catalyst for killing 13 soldiers in FT hood, and is internationaly know to be one of the most effective, influential, and dangerouse leaders of Al Queda…in the world?

Law enforcement can use lethal force against an American citizen who holds up a conveinece store with a gun, but cannot against an international terrorist leader whome we cannot capture, and is actively recruiting and plotting against us?

Yeah…if your the youth of the Republican party, I would be happy to direct you to the next code pink demonstration…they’ll be happy to see you, and be in complete agreement with your stance.

Why are you calling him an American instead of a terrorist? Can’t you tell the difference?

I hope you don’t, in a time of crisis, ever question this President.

If you do, then you’ve renounced your citizenship and can be murdered.

Good luck in life with this kind of emotionally charged illogical thinking.

And damned proud of it!

uh, sorry bro.  NO EXCEPTIONS.  

same goes with torture.  

THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. 

do you have evidence that he is “actively recruiting and plotting against us”?

please, do tell.  

You are so blinded by the liberal narrative that you can’t even make a coherent arguement.

I cant believe this bizzarro  thread we’re I’m defending Obama from Darladoon. 

Darla…let me bring you in a little secret.   It’s the president’s responsibility to protect us from enemies….both foriegn and domestic.

This guy openly declared himself an enemy, was proven to recruit and facilitate attacks through his savy use of the internet.

What are we supposed to do about this guy if we cant capture him because of his geographic location outside the united states?

Do we let him continue to mastermind a facilitate the murder of American citizens.

Which is worse, stepping into a grey area to kill this guy, or allowing him to live and giving a condolence speech at the next Ft Hood Masacre repeat.?

i have no problem with this cleric being put on a Death Sentence. My problem is with idiot liberals and the American Communists Labor Union (ACLU) treating it differantly, along with the old media. Anyone with any brains knows, if this was Bush every idiot from Nancy Pelosi to Senator Obama to Dick Turbain, would be crying Foul. Kinda like Haliburton and Sylendra. 

I hope you don’t, in a time of crisis, ever question this President.If you do, then you’ve renounced your citizenship and can be murdered.Good luck in life with this kind of emotionally charged illogical thinking.

Paul makes a  point, although I think this Al-awaki guy needed to be killed.  Foreign relations can be much improved with celebrity goodwill ambassadors spreading honey instead of politicians spreading vinegar.  Sean Penn gets it right. He is in Egypt right now, spreading good will.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/09/30/sean-penn-goes-to-egypt/

go back to sleep.

Terrorists getting killed during Obama’s presidency is very confusing for the dimwitted Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers.

I am not a Ron Paul fan, but it does make me wonder if ordering a kill order on an American Citizen is the right thing to do.

I just hope Obama never declares war on the Tea Party.

There has never been evidence provided by our government that Al-Awaki has done any of the sort. None.

It is now confirmed. The POTUS has the “right” to kill American citizens indiscriminately without a single bit of evidence being offered.

Scary…

Offer proof this man was a terrorist. To date the United States Government has shown nothing.

Ad-hominem

He’s a hypocrite on this subject how?

Sit down old man!

He doesn’t and neither does the United States Government.

How is recruiting a muslim Army Major and influencing him to kill 13 soldiers even remotly close to questioning the president from a political perspective?

If you except the immense complexity of the our society, and then a grander scale, the world, accepting the limitless possibilities and variables of himan interaction…we can in no conceivble way, make laws to guide us through every contingency.

Thats why we elect leaders instead of plugging our laws into a computer, give it a problem and wait for it to spit out an answer.

I dont expect our leaders to weild supremem power, but I do expect them to make very difficult descisions in circumstances like this.

Obama then:”I strongly believe that the American system of justice is a key part of our arsenal in the war against al-Qaida and its affiliates, and we will continue to draw on all aspects of our justice system – including (federal) courts – to ensure that our security and our values are strengthened.”

Obama now: “Bomb whoever you need to I have a re-election campaign coming up.”

seriously, we’re talking about an american citizen……in yemen.  

to which “war” are you referring?

Libertarians are lost, in general, but it’s hard to argue with him on this one.

Just like the Stuxnet virus in Iran.

Stupid short-term policies–arming the rebels in Afghanistan against the Soviets–always come back to haunt.

you said it was “proven”?

where?  who?  how?  

we have these little things called “laws”, maybe you’ve heard of them.

5th amendment.  maybe you’ve heard of that.

He’s a hypocrite on earmarks http://washingtonindependent.com/104609/ron-paul-one-of-only-four-house-republicans-to-request-earmarks-for-2011-budget-updated

Of course I have a problem if the President is giving orders to assassinate American Citizens…everyone should.
The problem is this guys citizenship was stripped once he declared war against the United States and joined a terrorist group whose main objective is to kill as many Americans as possible!!

It is ironic, isn’t it, when you remember the yells from the debate audience of “let him die!” when it came to a hypothetical question about an uninsured American citizen?  Conservatives have developed a very elastic sense of ethics in the age of Obama.

If it’s such a slam-dunk case, then arrest and try him.

Killing him without a trial makes us no better than terrorists.

The rule of law, right to a trial and liberty are what set us apart from them.

And complexity is no excuse to ignore the rule of law, or 

to turn our rule of law on it’s head in an emotional tantrum.

America is supposed to defend liberty, first and foremost.

Not destroy our liberty in order to fight terrorism.

Who will defend us from the terrorism of big government?

I JUST DONATED ANOTHER $50 TO RON PAUL, HE’S OVER 1 MILLION NOW.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Read what I posted again.

Stay on topic.

I love the smug “do, tell” crap that you always see from people like you.

Unless you live in a cave or only watch mSNBC, you know that this guy managed multiple social media efforts on behalf of alquead, and had direct contact with the FT Hood shooter, the times square bomber, and a few others that I’m not going to bother looking up for you right now.

I’m sorry to say, but with national security, we cant just throw out everyhting our agencies know so you…..Darladoon can have your smugg “do tell” request fullfilled. 

And even if we could, I’m sure the complexities and results of intelligence collection, source development, and online/physical serveillence, will do no good for your understanding anyway.  Like I said, go back to sleep and just vote for your boy in 12. I might be right there with ya in Ron Paul runs.

No, he has his minions do that for him

go back to sleep.

am not a big Ron Paul fan……..but think he truly cares for America……. a little to isolationist for me; that is not the issue…..
have to say I agree with him about killing an American citizen, no matter how vile the bastard may be…
wouldn’t the president ordering the death of an American citizen be considered an impeachable act?

You mean the one guy who yelled that out? Does one extra crazy guy from your side speak for your entire party including you?

Arrest and Try him?  OMG dude…you seriosuly sound like a liberal. 

It’s just that easy I guess…All we had to do was arrest and try him….just like picking some milk up at the grocery store.

Congradulations on throwing another $50 dollars into the river btw.

Thanks for the clarification “The Bomb” 

also, thank you for your continued service in all of the nation’s 16 intelligence agencies that affords you the knowledge that the US Govornment does not have evidence.

I assumed that what we know and how we got it would be highly classified , but since you just spilled the NSA’s beans on this one, I guess we can put the whole issue to bed.

 Ok Darla..I’ll play since you voted for the guy, not me.
 
Obama sits in the white house one day, when Gen Petreaus approaches him and tells him that there is credible info placing this guy within 100 meters of a location in yemen.                    
 
Obama assembles a legal team with his intel and state department reps, and reviews what they know.  After the brief, Obama turns to the legal team and asks if we can legally kill him. 
 
Now…if his legal team, which I assume has a little bit more (just a bit) of experience on domestic and international law says “No Mr. President…we can’t legally do it”
 
Do you think your boy Obama, would give the order to go ahead anyway?

I understand the position you’re coming from, but I disagree.  Answers don’t always come in clear black and white solutions.  Sometimes you have to take a gamble.  But we’re not going to get to the point where the FBI or some other alphabet agency starts sniping Americans for crossing some obscure line.  This guy was a terrorist in every sense of the word.  He helped plan the eunuch bomber, also known as the underwear bomber.  He inspired Hassan and was starting to take more control and plan attacks.

I’m not a Republican, but I’m perfectly fine with this.  This guy swore allegiance to jihad.  So I say, with a clear conscience, “see ya!”

LOL at how far the normal hawkish conservatives are going with this issue. They want Obama to get no credit, and if that requires flying around like doves, so be it. If only the man you voted for had been elected, I am pretty sure he would have objected to not giving the terrorist his miranda rights.

Read what I stated again.

I sure don’t want him for President, but he is no hypocrite. 

I really hate that I completely disagree with Paul on this, even though I can think of no valid argument to counter his opinion.
But, you heard it here first, if this becomes a huge constitutional issue it will be Bush’s fault.
(congratulations to the CIA for a job well done)

Okay now play newscasters against one another. Now play the public against the media. Now play the media against the GOP. Now play Ron Paul against the federal government, Now play the media against Ron Paul. Now…….. When will the CIA end this charade?

Someone who spends all his tiime protesting against gov and has worked within the gov and paid by gov tax dollars for his lively hood for over 20 yrs, is a fuking hypocrite

Plz don’t confuse earmarks with appropriations…

and..yes you did confuse it, so don’t deny it 

*wink

Congratulations to the president for keeping his eye on the heads of the serpent and doing what Baby boy Bush didn’t! The president is an effective leader as he ordered and authorized the taking out of Osama Bin Ladin, Atiyah abd al-Rahman and Anwar al-Awlaki and Moammar Khaddafy on the run! There have been two or three other high targets taken out in the past! This is effective leadership as he never took his eyes of the target for thirty-two months! Baby boy Bush was in office eight years and didn’t accomplish what president Obama has done in just thirty-two months! President Obama has presided over the passage of the Sarbanes Oxley act of 2002 and the Frank Dodd Act because these two acts provide guidelines and  restrictions put into place resulting from the recession of 2007 and 2008! There were major corporate and accounting scandals like Enron and Worldcom which cost investors billions. The Frank Dodd Act provided a sweeping overhaul of America’s financial regulatory system to consolidate agencies, regulate financial markets, implement consumer protection, provide financial crisis tools for the FDIC and improving accounting processes and tightening credit rating regulations. Now the Troubled Economic Antagonist(TEA) party want to undo previously passed and signed legislation that reigned in the excesses of the past! Call your Senator and Representative and tell them ”Do not water down these Acts!”

“Amazingly enough…I think Obama would be a better Pres than you”

Now you’re being a delusional right-winger :P

“Congradulations on throwing another $50 dollars into the river btw.”
Congratulations

Your ideological slip is showing.

Your partisanship brings out the red in your eyes. Lovely.

“Plz don’t confuse earmarks with appropriations…

and..yes you did confuse it, so don’t deny it 

*wink”

I’m responding to this post as opposed to the other one because you can’t reply to that one.

And no, I didn’t confuse them.  I’m fully aware of how the system works.  I am fully aware of Ron Paul’s lame excuse and still consider him a hypocrite.  There’s a reason why, when looking at this situation, people should look to say, Jeff Flake who rails against them then doesn’t take the money.

Don’t be a fucking moron.

Conservative blindness reigns supreme.

Americans don’t plot against their own country. Terrorists do.

DUH

Too bad we can’t impeach ignoramuses from this country1

If this was a conservative president, you’d be making him a candidate for mount rushmore.

I’m not an expert Mark, but I’m certain that there was a robust legal team present at the time of this descision that gave the green light from a legal perspective.

Surely, If his legal advisors said its an illegal act, Obama would not have done it.   At least thats the assumtpion I’m making in the whole question of lawfullness. 

Why would you wonder that? We execute people on death row every damn day!

“Whoever?” I guess now we see who you teabags ***really*** regard as terrorists.

Just like many conservatives are ripping Obama apart for this. Nice try, Mr Birch.

Yes, kill him legally at least give him a puppet trial something.  There are plenty of legal ways to kill a terrorist, you can’t just take out an American citizen out without due process.  See my comment about letters of marque (legal under the constitution) or try him in abstentita then light the MF’er up. I don’t like terrorists at all, but US citizens have a right to protection under our Republic, if we erode that principal it’s over for us as Country.

Yes, you have lost the party we an extremely strong 20% of the base who will not vote for anyone else, but Ron Paul.  So if you don’t start opening up your mind Barry Obummer stays in office.  I cannot vote for Rick Perry or Mittens Romney, or we go bankrupt and risk major economic turmoil.  You fail to realize I more conservative than you and am not some peacenick hippie.  I worry about the government taking my money, property and freedoms away more than some loudmouth cleric in Yemen.

Hi Gadlfy!  Thanks for your continued efforts in sprinkling a healthy dose of useless stupid over every thread you frequent!

You do have a point.

You mean the “more than one” guy? Learn to listen. Learn to count.

Yah – like an “arguement” can even be made.

Wow.

Simply…

Wow.

He was a jihadist officer  for al quaida, dimwit.

And if this was a Conservative President you’d be asking for his head on a platter.

I am all for Obama blowing away the terrorists. I just do not understanding how suddenly you Libs are all for killing terrorists instead of giving them trials and lawyers.

You should be ashamed of your lack of patriotism, you un-american traitor.

What kind of cleaner do you use to get the sand out of your ears? I assume you have to pull your head out of the sand for air sometime… so…

Hypocracy is fat, huh?

I’ll believe that after you try it first.

Stop painting with a broad fat brush, buddy.

Why don’t you tell me exactly how many there were and if they screamed out “let him die.”

Do you really want to go down the typo path?

Your part of the 20% minority on the right…so the 80% have lost the party?

Up until this moment…like I said, I could at least stomach voting for Paul…..I cant do it now.

I understand the rule of law arguement and it brother arguement “the slippery slope” 

So how about this…how about we wait and see how the Administration explains or justifies the action in a legal sense and then go from there?

And I am sorry to see you along with the unnamed 20% go…

So when you Libs call everyone on the right side “teabaggers” that is considered….? Some would say it is painting with a broad fat brush. Right, buddy?

Obama seems to have knack for actually killing enemies.  No doubt ignoring due process has helped him out in this.  You would think the Republicans would like this as this is pretty much what they were trying to do under Bush.  Seems now that Rumsfield is gone things are getting done.

I would have to assume that in your mind you think you make sense?

I walked through lower manhattan as the trade center came down on a trek to find my wife and as I waded through the acrid white smoke I found myself calling for all who were behind the horror to be hung by their testicles. Cut the partisan hackery.

Well in time the party will change…it has to it’s economics 101.  We simply can’t afford this insanity around the world anymore and continiued erosion of our civil liberties.  If conservatives don’t wake up and stop being lackies for Israel and policing the world we will go bankrupt and the dollar will becomes worthless and all of our wealth in jeopardy.  Right Wingers need our vote in the general, if you don’t get it because we elect Rick Perry, or Herman Cain…we lose the election.  Like it or not right wingers are going to have to deal with a new kind of Republican.  So listen up you might learn something about being a conservative.  The neocon philosphy is just as bad as progressive philosophy.

Just keep listening to Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.  I’ll vote for Barry, if Dr. Paul doesn’t make it through the primary just so the bankruptcy of this nation isn’t blamed on a Republican.  We can start over from there and maybe next time you will pay attention.

Don’t you think it is slightly hypocritical of you to tell me to cut the partisan “hackery” when almost all of your posts are completely partisan? I am in agreement with you that the persons who were responsible should be hung by their testicles.

Darladoon I never thought that I would come to a moment when the two of us would agree on anything.

Anybody who knows Ron Paul knows that he is a strict constitutionalist, as such he is not willing to bend on those principles just because it is convenient to do so…  Yes, I am sure that all of us can find a part of ourselves that says “glad that bastard is dead” but I would ask you to consider what this means to our constitution and the rule of law…  Same for the Patriot Act, just how many of our freedoms will we allow this enemy to strip from us…  Osama Bin Lauden and his ilk has cost us dearly and we are blind to the true costs of the war he has waged against us as we gladly have given up many of our freedoms.  

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

-Benjamin Franklin,

ok, a different question:

what law gives obama the authority to assassinate a US citizen?

wow, Guest is our local authoritarian

well, then, an arrest and trial shouldn’t take too long…..

bush’s legal team said the same thing about torture

and they went ahead anyway….

so you’re basically taking the authoritarian stance.  

all power to Our Glorious Leader to decide what is “legal”

“legal team”?  john yoo led a “legal team” too.  

Stop whining.  Every statement Obama makes has an expiration date.
What I need are those drone’s on the I-5 taking out those car chase drivers that stop all up traffic..

Yoo was part of a robust legal team on enhanced interrogation and gave Bush the go ahead.  That didn’t stop anybody from questioning those actions.

I’m conflicted on this. I’m glad the guy’s dead but uncertain as to how we got there. Swearing allegiance to a hostile foreign army is recognized as showing willingness to renounce citizenship, but I think there are further steps in the process.  I know some ex-FFL fellas who retain U.S. citizenship, so I’ll check in with them.

Very concerned about the precedent this sets, though.  If no court has ruled on his status this seems kind of … off.  This requires deep thought and many beers.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Stop posting because you’re embarrassing yourself.

“I can’t stand Paul for most things he stands for…”

Yeah the Constitution and personal liberty are just abhorrent.

Liberals: Undeclared wars are only okay when our guys do it.

This is true, but we typically give them a trial, don’t we?

I find it simply AMAZING that in the debates he will all too willing to let a 30 yr old in a coma die because he didn’t have health care insurance and now this!  These people have PEA FREAKING BRAINS!!  Funny you don’t hear any of these idiots cheering this death like that did during that debate!!  Had this been Bush they would have named him king.  These people don’t want anything “american-like”.  Maybe they need to move out and form their own country!

So we kill murders in jail, but a terrorist you do not agree with.
Muders in jail are american citizens

Fine, he needed to be killed, but he should have gotten a trial in my opinion.  All this time, we justified torture and assassinations because the people we were torturing and assassinating were not American citizens.  This PROVES that the United States could start assassinating its own citizens without any due process.

It’s not about Bush vs. Obama.  Americans have certain rights, and one of those rights is “DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW”.

Right, Ron Paul became a medical doctor because he doesn’t care about sick Americans. 

 Um, our president swore to uphold the constitution and last I checked, that constitution has a 5th amendment and a 14th amendment that supposedly gives American citizens a thing called DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW!

Guess what, Americans could be terrorists too.  That’s why Tim McVeigh was given a trial.

Well, the guy is technically right.  All this guy did was inspire people on Youtube.  By that logic, Glen Beck could be seen as a terrorist as well.

As far as you’re concerned, maybe.  Too bad the constitution says he’s still an American citizens and still has the rights of one.

 What has he done exactly?  Release a bunch of anti-American videos on Youtube?  Do you know how many Teabaggers have done that since Obama got elected?

Do you have proof that he was the catalyst of all these things?  I thought Americans were INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Too bad Americans are granted due process by virtue of the 5th and 14th amendment and this man was an American.  He deserved a chance in court.

How scary is this, we just killed an American citizen without any due process, and even the idiot Republicans who are supposed to oppose Obama for everything are fine with this.  Thank you Dr. Paul for being the one person left in our government that actually cares about the constitution. 

Go live in Israel, they elect their “leaders” and then give them a free hand & turn a blind eye to their doing anything and everything in the name of defense

Better yet, go live in Saudi, they even relieve you from the election part

I don’t see Ron Paul praising Bush if had done this either.  The reason Ron Paul is so popular is because he calls out both sides when he sees them doing something wrong.

Didn’t we vote for Obama because he wouldn’t be like Bush?  

 At least we give murderers due process.  This guy deserved due process.  It is his constitutional right as an American.

Remember folks, if you release Youtube videos that are anti-American, then you deserve to die with no questions ask.  What a sad sad joke.

Yep

Obama got them

The guy was over there serving with our avowed enemies, who have attacked and killed our citizens.  I say pop a cap in his ass.

darla, i will give you credit for not being a flip-flopper, you didnt change your opinion base on politics and stuck to your guns

Ron paul spawned that dirtbag rand paul. Enuf reason to ignore this troll.

Except he is was not in America and by the way he is terrorist.
You cannot seriously thinks anybodys care that this guy was killed

An analogy… An American born bank robber holds other Americans hostage in a botched bank robbery.

Using Mr. Paul’s logic, a SWAT team, with a clear head shot, would be violating the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, if they were to rescue the hostages, by taking that head shot. America is being held “hostage” by Al Qaeda. The President made the right call on this, and I’d be willing to bet that he had the full support of his top military, legal, and intelligence advisors.

Because you hate the truth? Let’s see how you feel when you are not given due process.

I’m afraid Mosley, below, is right about you.  If you do not know the difference between a man elected to office by his constituents in order to have an effect on our government, including to help put restraints on it, and a bureaucrat who is simply an employee of the government, then you need a civics lesson.

Again, I don’t want Ron Paul for President, but he is no hypocrite and he has shown that again and again.

Neocons are big fans of Obama’s world-wide Assassinations 
They know that their Puppet President will do what he is told.

Paul, please go home and leave the adult Americans alone for the next 20 years…

It’s not an assassination; it is first-degree murder.  Obama should be arrested and tried for committing a crime on an American citizen.  As a Constitutional scholar, does he not know that all Americans are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.  What happened to his ruling of reading enemy combatants their “Miranda Rights”?  Why don’t they just shoot a Predator missile on Gitmo to kill all of those terrorist and insurgent prisoners they have incarcerated there?  When is Obama going to start using Predator drone missiles to kill known homegrown terrorists on the highways of America?  This killing of an American citizen sets the precedence for all of these future killings to happen in the good old USA.  The double standards of this POTUS and administration is nothing but chilling!

Ron Paul means
well in everything he does and says, but good intentions can lead you down the
road to Hell. We spend trillions of dollars fighting terrorist. Ron Paul
complains about our government spending money. He complains about raising
taxes, he talks the good talk about giving terrorist their civil rights through
a fair trial. Maybe Ron Paul just wants to be right on all issues. I don’t
know, but I believe the definition of a failure is a person who tries to
satisfy everyone.

The majority of
people understand, the world is not perfect and we need to make tough but not
perfect choices, otherwise the world will stand still, as our present day Congress
people are finding out as stagnation of growth along with continuing interest
on the nation debt is eating away at us financially in both directions.

With the horrible
terrorist crimes being committed against humanity throughout the world and
Osama ben Laden, in his early days, was preaching; “the terrorist will
eventually break America financially,” along with the fact, we are in a global
financial debacle terrorist helped to create, this is not a good time to
disagree on how to treat a deadly dangerous terrorist while they plot to kill
Americans. If the 9/11 victims of the World Trade Center were around today,
they would definitely agree with this.

Terrorist are
extremist at doing bad, Ron Paul is an extremist a doing good. Do-gooders are
usually flip-floppers, depending on the situation and persons or group engaged.

When one becomes a terrorist, one is no longer considered to be a U.S. citizen, block head/heads.

Then, Johnnie, if what you say is correct,

1.  Why do we allow non-citizens the right to receive Miranda Rights and trial by jury?
2.  It would open the gates to knock off known terrorists right here in the U.S. using Predator drone missiles.  It could happen on all of our major freeways.

You should think out what you are going to write before making such an outlandish statement.

Look at it this way. If he goes away it will not be long before you go away. You will end up boiling your dog on your kitchen stove that is if you even have a stove. Tell me Rocket Scientist, what plans do you have for our country? Let me guess, more welfare.

Give me one reason as to why you call the man a hypocrite. If there was ever a non hypocrite then this man is it. I do believe you are the most clueless person on the face of the earth.

I tried but I threw up. Sorry

Well look son you go right ahead and suck up the government. Let them control your life. You might want to count your blessings that the man has protested against the government. What in the hell do you think is wrong with this country? I know you do not have a freaking clue. Find a life you parasite.

That still does not give anyone the right to trash the 5th amendment.  The scum bag was never charged. If you want to pop him then charge him. All you need to do is give Obama the right to assassinate a person with out due process of law and before to long he will by your dictator. You best wake the hell up.

I think we are wasting our time. What we need to do is bring back Hitler and give them to him. Then they would completely happy.

You have completely missed the point that Ron Paul is making. As my self he has no problem in taking that scum bag out. He voted to take Ben Laden out. Why did he do that? He did it because Ben Laden was not an American citizen and Ben Laden had a ton of charges brought against him by the U.S. But this case is entirely different. First weather we like it or not they killed an American citizen, sure a scum bag American citizen but still an American. Next they killed an American who had never been charged with anything. So you have a president who kills an American that has never been charged. Did the scum bag need killing? Absolutely, but there is a right way to do it and a wrong way and Obama took the wrong way.
So forget that he is a scum bag for a moment. Just take in the fact that he was an American with no charges against him and Obama had him killed. Now I am an American and I have no charges against me but according to this Obama could order my death, let’s just screw the fifth amendment. I do not care what any one has done. If they are an American citizen then they fall under the 5th amendment and the due process of law. When you let a president step pass that then you are traveling on a slippery slop. That is a dictator not a president. Let’s say the next time Obama views Ron Paul and says well he could beat me in the next election and there fore he would become a threat to this country, so I need to have him killed. Could he do that? Well hell yes he could do it because he has already done it. Trust me dude no one liked this scum bag and most of us could have popped a cap in his head and lost no sleep over it. But the point is under the 5th amendment you are allowed the due process of the law. We can not allow that to be taken away by Obama no matter what the situation. This is exactly what Ron Paul is saying. He has no problem with charging this scum bag then trying him and then breaking his neck. But that is the way it is done according to our constitution. Ron Paul is trying to defend our constitution not this scum bag. Hope you understand because we need this man.

No you never make exceptions when it comes to the constitution or the rule of law. If you start that shit you will end up shit. Never and I mean never fall for that carp. If you do you will end up with nothing more than a dictator. Hitler started the same way. He grabbed a little power a little at a time. Before people knew it they were need deep in some serious shit. Millions of Jews killed in death camps. I do not care what you think about Jews but they did not deserve the shit that Hitler put on them. Obama is a complete piece of power hungry shit. He has done nothing but screw us from day one. He has wrecked our economy. He could not run a whore house with no taxes and make a profit. So give his ass some power and see what he hands you. This man is freaking dangerous. Who knows he might just decide that your ass needs to go next time.

You just keep believing that and see where it get’s you. You are talking dictator. Is that what you really want? I don’t think so.

Look son the man is absolutely correct in what he says. If you can kill his ass you can arrest his ass. But first be smart enough to charge his ass with something. You are ignoring the rule of law. Next week we will pick your sorry ass up march you straight to the gas chamber, no trial no nothing, and we will smoke you ass. Now how would you like that you idiot. No wonder this country is screwed, we are dealing with stupid like you. Sorry but people like you just piss me off.

No he has no evidence nor did the our government if they had they would have charged him. They never brought one charge against the guy. Do I think he was a scum bag? Absolutely. But I still want freaking proof and I do not want a president who thinks he can just order the killing of any American citizen who has never been charge with crap. Ben Laden had a ton of charges brought against him, so sure smoke him the first chance you get. But this crap was wrong from the get go. Charge him then arrest him then try him and if found guilty then let me pop him. But that is the way we do things in this country. That is the way we have always did things in this country that is until Obama come along.

Then why did the government not charge him. Surly if they had proof they would have charged him with murder. You can not charge a person for murder for running their mouths. If you could you and I would be dead meat. Our government had no problem in charging Ben Laden and Ron Paul voted to smoke him. But I am like Paul if you can’t charge him then you can’t smoke him and if he is an American citizen then he falls under the 5th amendment. Take that away and what do we have left. We will be left with a dictator like Obama wants to be.

Son I do not know how old you are but I would guess you are quite young. You are smart beyond you years. I am a 66 year old Vietnam Vet. I fought in a useless war. So tell all these people on here that are against you and Ron Paul that you will stick to your guns. Why? Because this 66 year old Vietnam Vet is telling you that you are 100% correct. So for every one that thinks that just young people are voting for Ron Paul then you best think again. You can get smarts from a library but wisdom comes with age. The good lord has seen fit to let me live 66 years. He seen fit to get me through a war and I thank him every night for that. He has given me wisdom with years. So go ahead and try to trash this young person but I can tell you through wisdom that he is absolutely right in what he says.

When I step in dog shit I don’t need to send a specimen to the lab to confirm what it is.  In the case of Al-Awlaki, he has openly plotted against this country and is guilty of treason.  I don’t have a bit of problem with the president ordering his death.  I don’t have problems with us facilitating the deaths of any of our enemies as it is simply a matter of self defense.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/01/earlyshow/saturday/main20114273.shtml

I’m glad the bastard is dead.  I look forward to more of his buddies joining him.

I don’t recall Ron Paul speaking up when the Branch Davidians were burned alive in Waco, or when the Weavers were slaughtered on Ruby Ridge. So apparently he thinks it’s wrong only when the targets are radical muslims who want to kill as many americans as possible.

It would be my guess that you have no earthly idea as to how the delegate process works.
Ron Paul has a lot of die in the woods supporters who will stick with him through tick and thin. They have and will work their butts off for him. So how have they worked. They worked by getting them selves elected as delegates. Just check our Illinois. Illinois has 62 delegates and 55 are Ron Paul delegates. So what does that mean? It means that some states are winner take all states and some are uncommitted. In the states that are uncommitted when candidates drop out the delegates that they won become free delegates and can vote for who ever they want. So like Illinois if 30 delegates become free then guess where they will go. If you do not know they will go to Ron Paul because 55 of them are all ready committed to him. See they have already done their work. They have been working since the end of 2010.
Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination without winning one primary. Think not? Just you wait and see.
Bottom line they done their home work and it will pay big dividends during the national convention. A lot of folks are going to get a huge surprise come the national convention. Ron Paul is gaining support every day. People in two weeks will understand what he is saying about not given an American citizen a trial or killing him with no charges and he will only grow stronger. Paul can gain a lot of steam in four months and with the delegates going to him he will win the GOP nomination. After that it will be a cake walk with Obama. He is the only candidate that can pull Democrats and Independants away from Obama. Perry, Romney or Bachmann can in no way do that. Paul is the only candidate who has the ump to beat Obama.
So the question is, do you want Paul or do you want some more of Obama? Four more years of Obama and we are done for sure. With Paul we may just have a chance to pull out of the mess we are in. But if we blow it we will not have another chance, we will go down the tube when all our printed money comes home to roost, like 7 trillion dollars. Our currency will loose it world reserve status. If that happens it is all over for us. So bad mouth Paul and vote for the status quo, but if you do then stick a fork into it because it is done and all over for us. Think not? Then hell give her a try and see.

No screw head the president is suppose to uphold the constitution first and for most, which he took an oath to do. But why should this Bozo up hold anything. Personally I do not think he is even an American citizen. One thing for sure he is using some one else S/S number. This guy is nothing more than a con artist and he got the American people to buy his crap. This guy could not protect us form freaking Mickey Mouse. He does not have the right to kill an American citizen who has not been charged with anything. If he does that he is breaking the 5th amendment of the constitution. What in the hell do you not understand about that. Are you actually that freaking brain dead? For crying out loud, go play in the street.

No his citizen ship was not stripped. It should have been but it was not. So show me proof of his citizen ship being stripped. What we need to do as a county is pass a law that says if you take up citizenship in another country then you lose this citizenship. But until we do that then we have to go by the law. For the life of me I can not understand why people on here can not see that. If you have a law then go by it. If you have a law that you do not like then get it chanced. But this crap of just doing what ever you like and screw the constitution is dangerous and should have consequences.
I have a ten year old grand daughter who I love very much. If some one were to molest her or harm her in any way I would want to skin them alive. Now I know I can not take the law into my own hands. Would I take the law into my own hands when it come to her. Hell yes I would and I would kill the sorry SOB right after I skinned his ass alive. But with that said I would fully expect to go to prison for the rest of my life. And that I would do for her. Obama’s ass should be arrested and sent straight to Fort Leavenworth. He broke the law pure and simple.

You just can not get it can you. If some one kills you mom you have two choices. One let the courts take care of it or two kill the sucker your self. Son this is America. We will let you kill the sucker but we will also put you into jail for doing it. See it is the law. Your concerns are not what we go by. We go by the laws that have been passed by all people. You want to be like Obama, screw the constitution I make the decision here. You need to go hug his neck because you are just like him.

What crises? Now if a freaking nuclear  warhead was heading our way that would be one thing. Pick up that little red phone and punch the button. But you call this a crises? Give me a break. Would you like to know what scares the living hell out of me? To know that a Muslim Obama has that little red phone. That screw head is not even an American citizen. I would bet my last dime on that.

I would not trust Obama in a shit house with a muzzle on.

No president should have the authority to assassinate any American citizen who has not been charged of a crime.
If you want to kill this scum bag then charge him for murder then kill him if he resist arrest. That is the way it has always been done in this country. If you can arrest him without having to kill him then he falls under the fifth amendment. We can not trash the constitution just because we are pissed at an American citizen. You say but he lost his citizenship. No he did not. Personally I did in no way like this scum bag and I did not shed a tear when they vaporized him. But I am not going to trash the constitution no matter what he did. Take Timothy McVae in Oklahoma. He was a piece of pure screwed up carp. But he got a trial and he went by by. But now some people on here who think that just because some one moves to another country then they become fair game even though they are still an American citizen. Until the law is changed that is not the way it works.
If I order a hit on any one and I get caught I am toast. Obama just ordered a hit on an American citizen who had not been charged with any crimes and I do not care how many lawyer’s he had standing around him that was a huge mistake. All I can say is he had  truck load of dumb butt lawyer’s. So what makes Obama any different from me. I do that my ass goes to jail. That piece of crap is under the same laws I am under. Send his ass to Fort Leavenworth as quick as possible.

All this came about because we can’t mind our own business. If we didn’t supply the Afghan rebels with stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians, the result the birth of AlQuada. they wouldn’t be attacking us now. Invading Iraq was another mistake, they were no threat to us, infact they held Iran in check. No country wants occupying foreign troops in their land, it breeds contempt. Iran wanted to go nuclear because they believed their mortal enemy Iraq had nuclear weapons. The U.S. causes it’s own problems by interfearing in other countries conflicts.The housing crisis helped the economy deflate but, it started long before that, it started with Korean,VietNam and the Iraq wars. Non of these wars were any of our business. Unnecessary wars are draining our country dry. We have over 800 foreign military bases and are closing down bases in the U.S. these bases support our local communities and the money stays in the U.S. We defend other countries and leave our own borders unprotected from terrorist. Our military is supposed to protect America not foreign countries, Our enemies can just walk accross the border, they don’t need an army, navy or air force and they can purchase anything they want to make weapons. Most of our state side military is not armed as in Fort Hood and other military installations. We catch some illegal immigrants near the border but, who knows how many terrorist get through and how many are in the country now.

I agree, their meddling in the Middle East for the last forty years is exactly what brought on all the problems we have today. The likes of the Bush crime family and Reagan took this country in the most wrong direction possible. They have wanted to turn this country into a theocratic militant dictatorship for a long time, that is why it has come to the point that we have to stop them politically or just hand over our country to the fascist pigs.

It is true that all these guys Clinton,Bush and Obama behave like little emperors.Wait some time before you start hanging on the trees you morons.Then will be too late.Remember there was bulgarian guy named George Markov who was assasinated by sectet service in London with poisonous umbrella.All western countries blamed the communists for that and were right.Now everyone is cheering the same evil act.Save government some money.Go buy a rope.They will need that.

We tried, but we can’t read vomit.

I’m not that young I’m 33.  I liked what Ron Paul had to say in 2008, but never thought our country would be in the mess we now face.  Honestly, I took our freedoms and the constitution for granted, no more as I see our politicians trample it everyday I feel like we now live in George Orwells 1984. The mantra the war is going well, the troops are slowly winning, we just need more money for hearts and minds. The politics of the middle east can only be fixed by them, it is a waste of blood and treasure to think otherwise.  The simple fact that we as Americans think that we can spread democracy through force and the barrel of a gun, speaks to our hubris and lack of thought as a nation.  It gives me little hope that we will not change direction in time our dollar and wealth and empire will collapse and that is very very dangerous thing.  Ron Paul got me very intigued with monetary policy when I tried to figure out why my home is now, so underwater I’ll never pay off the debt, or have any wealth I can call my own.  The housing collapse has all, but bankrupted me and probably most of the people on this board.  They just can’t seem to connect the dots, yet.  A private central bank in control of our money issued as debt backed by nothing is so dangerous to us as a people…It is the very engine that drives our welfare warfare state.  If more people don’t wake up and recognize what is going on…we are all in deep deep trouble.  Thank you for your comments…I’m glad to see some people still get it.  Thank you for your service, I wish you could have spent your time in our military learning about engineering rather than war.

Good use of the word Ass….your post get stupider every time you reverted to it.  I’m happy to piss off tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist all day long.
 
And your comparison to Hitler killing twelve million people is absolutely relevant when making a comparison to shooting a hellfire missile at an Al Queda leader is some mud hut in Yemen.  Good Call.
 
So after you wipe the foam off your mouth and fix the tin foil hat (so the feds cant read your thoughts of course), why don’t you give me an insightful assessment of the Administration’s legal angle to doing this, and then show me how it’s a violation of the constitution.
 
Oh yeah, btw way, since we had some other Al Queda leaders killed in the attack, who’s to say they weren’t the target and Al Awaki wasn’t simply collateral damage to the attack on his buddies.
 
Grow up…..Ass.

Thank you for your wisdom and your complimentary scientific assessment of Uncle Billy’s intellect since he agrees with you.  Over your sixty six years on this earth, your great wisdom has bestowed on you the ability to use ass in every sentence of a political statement (and very persuasively indeed), along with your uncanny ability to call everyone “son” as if that gives you some sort of high ground on the discussion.
 
Here’s a news flash for though, that you can put in that huge bag of wisdom….RON PAUL AINT GETTING’ THE NOMINATION. 
 
You clowns are a cult in every sense of the word, and you can protest vote all you want, but it aint changing a friggin thing.  He is not going to win, game set match.
 
Also..you sound pretty damn sure of your Sage-like position on I guess just about everything under the sun, but I suggest you look up the word “Dementia” before you keep coming up online making grandiose claims of your amazing insight into…everything.  Write a book o wise one…I’m sure it will be chalk full of gibberish similar to what you have provided here.

“No screw head” ….says the guy who claims to be more intelligent than eveyone else here. 

Again dude, wipe the foam off and empty out the Ron Paul drool cup, its getting full

Yeah, this action was certainly “indiscriminate”  I bet next week we’ll have cub-scouts dodging hellfires because of this.

There you are…

Usually we’re on opposite ends, but I whole heartedly agree with you on this one.  Great analogy too.