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Stephen Colbert Testifies–In Character–To Congressional Sub-Committee

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Well, let’s hope that this is the weirdest—and most cringe-worthy—thing you see today. Amidst protests from the GOP and right-of-center media outlets, Comedy Central’s Stephen Colbert (host of The Colbert Report) testified this morning before the House Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.

The appearance almost didn’t happen—at least, it wouldn’t have if Colbert had followed the direction of Rep. John Conyers, (D-MI), chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Conyers asked that Colbert leave so that the Committe could “get to the bottom” of the issue.

“I would like to recommend, that now we got all this attention, that you excuse yourself and you let us get on with the three witnesses and all the other members there,” he said. “I’m asking you to leave the committee room completely, and submit your statement.” Video of that portion (Colbert’s full testimony follows):


But Colbert persisted, staying in character and joking throughout the testimony. At one point he suggested that “if we don’t want people picking beans, we should make plants that pick themselves,” which did not appear to amuse the GOP officials in attendance.

What does it say about the state of the media today that fake-newsman-cum-comedian Stephen Colbert’s testimony in front of Congress is, for many, a much bigger story than Jon Klein leaving as president of CNN?

Or maybe this is a better question: did Stephen Colbert’s testimony make a mockery of the legislative process? Or does the legislative process deserve to be mocked? Perhaps the correct answer is all of the above.

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  • dcmediasux

    I may despise most of the DC political media …but i do love Colbert and this was some funny stuff/

    quote:

    “my ancestors didnt cross 4000 miles of the Atlantic ocean to have this country overrun by foreigners..”

    now thats funny!

  • Moderate

    “make a mockery of the legislative process?”

    Now congress is playing the ratings game, I hope Colbert was well paid for his guest appearance.

  • More Liberty

    His testimony did make a mockery of the legislative system, but on the other hand the legislative system has been mocking regular Americans for decades. It is a mockery, and is basically defunct – just like the whole US political system as is currently practiced. What needs to happen more is mockery of our elected officials, their corruption and themselves. The system lives on debt that will have to be repaid by the grandchildren of current taxpayers. That is a mockery.

    A family household could not survive if they had the fiscal habits of these goons up in Washington and most state capitals. You want to talk about a mockery….that is a mockery. Colbert is just some silly man trying to get attention, he can’t harm Americans the way the federal government has and can.

  • Some_Dude

    Awesome. It was weird to see the people behind him so serene.

  • writer

    When congress has questions, they call in the experts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry-Kelly/1464519149 Larry Kelly

    Perhaps a few comment from Senator Stuart Smalley please?

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    “Don’t get up; we’ll show ourselves out.” – 2010 Democratic party

  • timzank

    Just another fitting example of how ridiculous this nation has become.

  • Azarkhan

    “What does it say about the state of the media today that fake-newsman-cum-comedian Stephen Colbert’s testimony in front of Congress is for many, a much bigger story” Colby Hall

    To me it says that the Mediaite staff, which has promoted this story, along with the Dan (Jerk-off) Savage story, is made up of silly sophomoric fools.

    At least one Democrat, John Conyers, tried to maintain the dignity and decorum of Congress by requesting that Colbert remove his sorry ass from the hearing.

  • dummy123

    Was this paid for with Stimulus funds??
    How many jobs were created??
    Is this change we can believe in??

    What a f^cking embarrassment!!!!!!

  • More Liberty

    dummy123 said:
    Was this paid for with Stimulus funds??
    How many jobs were created??
    Is this change we can believe in??

    What a f^cking embarrassment!!!!!!

    If it was paid for by the Stimulus “plan,” than it would have costed the taxpayers $220,000 for a $32,500 a year job.

  • jbeast

    I love Colbert and Stewart. They’re intelligent and hilarious entertainers.

    What the f*** is Colbert doing before Congress?

  • The Real Royal King

    Unless Colbert’s father died fighting the Nazis in Charleston in 1961, then he has little to offer us.

  • writer

    Steve should have done some jokes about congress’ approval ratings.

  • Caryson

    This was a total waste of the time.

    Since when do we need a clown to testify to the congress?

    Don’t we have enough clowns already in congress?

    This wasn’t even funny.

  • moriarty70

    Couched in between his jokes was a very honest testimony and it sounds like his written statement was much different, and legitimate. And as to the question at hand, no his testimony doesn’t make a mockery of it, as he reference to Elmo last night pointed out.

  • More Liberty

    I think it’s funny. I have little respect for the legislative branch, or any of the other two branches to be honest. Screwing over Americans is what they do.

  • zumpano

    Yeah, let’s just go ahead and discuss the man and not the CONTENT/REASON HE’S THERE.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    TYPICAL MEDIATE COMMENTORS

  • CosmosDan

    Moderate said:
    “make a mockery of the legislative process?”

    Now congress is playing the ratings game, I hope Colbert was well paid for his guest appearance.

    He wasn’t paid at all, and he paid all his own expenses as well. He got free water though, so I assume you’re outraged about that.

  • redwriteblue

    If the U.S. Immigration Laws were applied as they should be there would be no need for a congressional commitee to have entertainers make statements before it.

    The Immigration Laws have provisions for temporary foreign farm workers to harvest crops in the U.S. There are some big agribusinesses that do not want to use the system that is set-up for that but hire Illegal Immigrants instead.

    Stephen Colbert is part of the Immigration Reformistas’ campaign to change the image of the Illegals in front of the Television News cameras in another attempt to fool the American people, Click Article Link:

    http://www.tcunation.com/profiles/blogs/changing-the-image-of

  • writer

    Was it bottled water?

  • SteveMG

    If Mr. Colbert the American, the real person, had something to say about immigration laws, fine. But he was “acting” and testifying. So, everything he said was just fiction, an act, a routine.

    Worthless.

    What a waste of time and money.

  • CosmosDan

    dummy123 said:
    Was this paid for with Stimulus funds??
    How many jobs were created??
    Is this change we can believe in??

    What a f^cking embarrassment!!!!!!

    He didn’t get paid and paid his own expenses to be there. It cost a few minutes of time. Take a deep breath and calm down.

  • lane

    I heard this was happening, and assumed it was a hoax. I’m glad some members like Conyers tried to stop this train wreck, but Congress is just out of control. November will be quite the turnover for incumbents of both sides.

  • chucken

    And Colbert’s main point is that Americans do not want to do the farm work that immagrants legal and illegal do.Colbert was funny as hell as he always does doing a parody of serious issues.Got Beck on and he and his crew are having a hissy fit because Colbert routinely exposes Beck as a huge fucking phony and con-man.And Colbert like when he headlined the White House correspondence dinner and insulted Bush right in front of face this guy is fearless.

  • notsofast

    Next, the Dems will call Clarabell the Clown to discuss peace in the Middle East.

  • SteveMG

    And Colbert’s main point is that Americans do not want to do the farm work that immagrants legal and illegal do

    So make that point seriously. Don’t “act” it out. Testify responsibly and as a “real” person.

    If it’s a serious point – and it is – don’t triviliaze it with this charade. He undercut his argument by playing the court jester.

    Yes, much ado about (almost) nothing.

  • felixw

    I’ve stated many times here that the Left wants to turn every issue into a big joke. But I never thought it would get to the point of buffoons doing their routines as part of testimony to Congress. Who can doubt that the time has come to send these jokesters back to the comedy club and put our trust in honest people who take issues seriously, and don’t laugh while our democracy heads towards bankruptcy?

  • Azarkhan

    chucken said:
    Americans do not want to do the farm work that immagrants legal and illegal do.

    Yes, but unfortunately illegals haven’t stayed on the farm, have they? In fact, they swarm all over America, taking over industry after industry from native Americans, or, as was the case with Pres Obama’s aunt, collecting welfare benefits.

  • writer

    So all the estimated twelve million people who are here illegally work on farms. I didn’t know that.

  • Azarkhan

    writer said:
    the estimated twelve million people

    That is a low estimate. More like 30-40 million.

  • CosmosDan

    SteveMG said:
    If Mr. Colbert the American, the real person, had something to say about immigration laws, fine. But he was “acting” and testifying. So, everything he said was just fiction, an act, a routine.

    Worthless.

    What a waste of time and money.

    5 minutes and very minimal expense and he actually made good point while in character. Just his being there brought more attention to the issue. it’s hardly worthless. They were willing to give up their jobs to American citizens {Take my job please} Out of tens of thousands of inquiries only 16 people , out of all the unemployed we have, actually went and took the jobs.
    Political satire actually makes a point, and Steven crammed a lot of them into five minutes. His parting shot that got the laugh was just great.

  • notsofast

    zumpano said:
    Yeah, let’s just go ahead and discuss the man and not the CONTENT/REASON HE’S THERE.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    TYPICAL MEDIATE COMMENTORS

    There was NO reason for him being there.

  • CosmosDan

    Larry Kelly said:
    Perhaps a few comment from Senator Stuart Smalley please?

    Who is a better Senator than a lot of the bought and paid for long term politicians.

  • writer

    I’m sure Steve knows much more about people entering the country illegally than, say, people who live along the Arizona border.

  • notsofast

    CosmosDan said:
    Who is a better Senator than a lot of the bought and paid for long term politicians.

    Thanks! I need a belly laugh today and you just provided it!

  • SteveMG

    5 minutes and very minimal expense and he actually made good point while in character

    Sorry, do you think anyone is going to seriously consider what he said?

    He lost his point with the act. If he had been “serious”, he could have scored the same points, it seems to me.

    Time and place, time and place, time and place…

  • chucken

    OK then who do we get to pick the fruits and veggies?Or babysit your child?Or the day laborers on constuction sites,And who will mow your lawn?Writer they do the low page backbreaking labor besides working on a farm.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Was it bottled water?

    It was pure sparkling water, peed by the true patriots in congress, the real Americans who only care about what’s best for our nation, the greatest country in the world. Not those other scumbags who’s every comment speaks of treason or stupidity. You know.

  • Tony the Fist

    When does Lady Gaga get to go before congress on DADT?

  • felixw

    Is this April’s Fools Day. Jon Klein out at CNN? Jeff Zucker out at NBC? Stephen Colbert testifying before Congress? Surely Mediaite is making up these stories.

    What bogus story will you spread next? How about Keith Olbermann debating a conservative? Or Rachel Maddow going through an entire show without launching a character attack? This must be a sign of End Times coming!

  • Moderate

    writer says:
    September 24, 2010 at 11:36 am (Quote)

    “So all the estimated twelve million people who are here illegally work on farms. I didn’t know that.”

    No they all work at the local tire store changing tires, which drives the other companies, that want to be legal, out of business.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:

    At least one Democrat, John Conyers, tried to maintain the dignity and decorum of Congress by requesting that Colbert remove his sorry ass from the hearing.

    That was the guy withdrawing that request at the beginning of the clip.

  • SteveMG

    OK then who do we get to pick the fruits and veggies

    The committee was hearing legislation on just that: how to allow immigrants who work on farms become citizens. Speed up the process, make more incentives for them to follow our laws, et cetera.

    Quote: “The House Judiciary subcommittee hearing is about migrant farm workers and is touching on the so-called AgJOBS bill, a proposal that would give illegal immigrant farm workers a pathway to legal status.”

    No one is discussing that because of Colbert’s court jester act.

    We do have work visas, you know. Expand the program. Create a pathway, as the bill above outlines, on letting workers who follow our immigration law to citizenship.

    This debate has been going on for years without the help of Mr. Colbert.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    So all the estimated twelve million people who are here illegally work on farms. I didn’t know that.

    nobody said that and it’s not the issue. It’s an issue, but not the one being discussed here.

  • notsofast

    “Now, our next expert witness to testify ” said Congressman Conyers, “will be James Gandolfini who will enlighten us on the inner workings of the Mafia.”

  • writer

    Could the fact that illegals take low paying jobs have anything to with the part about them being here illegally, and wanting to stay under the radar? Noooooo.

  • writer

    Exactly, Cosmos. That’s why congress has those sparkling approval ratings. Just like the water.

  • sticks

    I’m trying to be objective… And maybe on his show this would be funny… But testifying before congress ?… Sooo not hitting the funnybone… Probably because I cant get over that this is what we have been reduced too… We’re in some serious trouble here…

  • CosmosDan

    I really don’t know how so many people can get a hair across your ass over 5 minutes of testimony that cost almost nothing. Colbert being there brought attention to a real issue which by itself is worth 5 minutes.

    Sheesh

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I’d say that the advance publicity and the above clip, which will blanket the internet, served the purpose of drawing attention to the hearing and though in character, he made many points about the situation and as the clip is replayed, I assume some of the information will filter from the video.

    The best I can tell, he did nothing to trivialize the issue, he provided truthful testimony and though peppered with jokes, Character Colbert said nothing that Citizen Colbert wouldn’t have said, if he was just some random guy who participated in the program.

    In other words, it was the jokes that made the testimony in character, not the actual content and without the jokes, the video would have limited replays. It also cements the idea that when you get Stephen Colbert to do something under his own name, he will remain in character, which was apparently part of the confusion from the Correspondent’s Dinner, but keep in mind, it was the character that caused us to watch.

  • More Liberty

    writer said:
    Exactly, Cosmos. That’s why congress has those sparkling approval ratings. Just like the water.

    Good point

  • no-touchy-touchy

    writer said:
    When congress has questions, they call in the experts.

    exactly
    good point

  • Moderate

    The local packing company pays their all Mexican workforce $12 per hour, under the previous owner workers were paid $25 per hour. 40 workers were discovered living in one house. In this case the capitalist system is just not working.

  • SpineCrusher

    Azarkhan said:
    Yes, but unfortunately illegals haven’t stayed on the farm, have they? In fact, they swarm all over America, taking over industry after industry from native Americans,P>

    HAHAHA!! Are you serious? The illegals (mexican or not) are taking the jobs of Native American’s….I thought they lived in poverty on the reservations.

    Surely you do not consider the melting pot of immigrants known as Americans “Native Americans” do you?

    That’d be a new one!! So hillariously ridiculous!! HAHAHA!! What a buffoon!! HAHAHA!!

  • marcus.lewis

    The very fact that people actually watch the hearing is worth the cost (cost to taxpayers 2 bottles of water*1 dollar/300M people=.000000007 dollars that we pay in taxes).

    Say what you will about testifying in character ( i think the best part is when he loosened up a bit and testified more outside of character at the final question), this is a serious issue. What I call a joke is the steroids investigations. The witnesses minus Colbert were serious individuals, unfortunately all the questioneer’s were on the same level as Colbert.

  • CosmosDan

    SteveMG said:
    OK then who do we get to pick the fruits and veggies

    The committee was hearing legislation on just that: how to allow immigrants who work on farms become citizens. Speed up the process, make more incentives for them to follow our laws, et cetera.

    Quote: “The House Judiciary subcommittee hearing is about migrant farm workers and is touching on the so-called AgJOBS bill, a proposal that would give illegal immigrant farm workers a pathway to legal status.”

    No one is discussing that because of Colbert’s court jester act.

    We do have work visas, you know. Expand the program. Create a pathway, as the bill above outlines, on letting workers who follow our immigration law to citizenship.

    This debate has been going on for years without the help of Mr. Colbert.

    Sure. It’s 5 freaking minutes so nobody expects it to change the course of policy. What it did do is bring some attention to the issue for the general public. Again, worth the 5 minutes.

  • Moderate

    ” a proposal that would give illegal immigrant farm workers a pathway to legal status.”

    When they get legal status, they are replaced by more illegals.

  • moriarty70

    notsofast said:
    “Now, our next expert witness to testify ” said Congressman Conyers, “will be James Gandolfini who will enlighten us on the inner workings of the Mafia.”

    Because actors never research a role they’re playing and as such have no inside knowledge that most people wouldn’t. And of course they would never associate with the people who their role is based on. Go ahead, invite an active cappo into congress and watch that used against each and every one of the members.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Azarkhan said:
    taking over industry after industry from native Americans

    Mexicans are taking over the casinos?

  • writer

    I do think this partly explains congress’ approval ratings. When people in Arizona worry about thousands of people illegally crossing the border, let’s boycott Arizona! Then let’s call in a comedian to testify about the problem.

  • timzank

    CosmosDan said:
    I really don’t know how so many people can get a hair across your ass over 5 minutes of testimony that cost almost nothing. Colbert being there brought attention to a real issue which by itself is worth 5 minutes. Sheesh

    The point is, it brought attention to Steven Colbert, not the issue of illegal aliens.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Exactly, Cosmos. That’s why congress has those sparkling approval ratings. Just like the water.

    I know. That was the point of my sarcasm. Why would anyone complain about Colbert’s 5 minutes of satire as if congress is such an august body.

  • CosmosDan

    timzank said:
    The point is, it brought attention to Steven Colbert, not the issue of illegal aliens.

    I respectfully disagree. I wouldn’t have known anything about the “Take our Jobs PLease” program if Colbert hadn’t participated and done a fairly unfunny bit on his show. {although asking the congresswoman to make an anchor baby was pretty funny}

  • notsofast

    moriarty70 said:
    Go ahead, invite an active cappo into congress and watch that used against each and every one of the members.

    LMAO!

    They have called in mob bosses before to testify. How do you think there learned about the mob? Joe Valachi ring a bell? What are you, 5?

    I guess we need to get Tom Hanks to be testify as an expert on space travel and war!

    LMAO!

  • chucken

    As long as Mexico remains a poor country and the US has jobs that pay more than they could get in Mexico and employers want the cheap labor ot increase profits this will continue.And please note illegal immigrants with factory jobs get taxes taken out of there check and never file for a tax refund.I have seen the piles of returned W-2′s.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    I do think this partly explains congress’ approval ratings. When people in Arizona worry about thousands of people illegally crossing the border, let’s boycott Arizona! Then let’s call in a comedian to testify about the problem.

    That’s not the specific issue they are discussing. Are you saying don’t give them work visas or a legal path to citizenship because so many are coming over?

  • writer

    Could they check into getting the visas before coming over?

  • CosmosDan

    chucken said:
    As long as Mexico remains a poor country and the US has jobs that pay more than they could get in Mexico and employers want the cheap labor ot increase profits this will continue.And please note illegal immigrants with factory jobs get taxes taken out of there check and never file for a tax refund.I have seen the piles of returned W-2’s.

    Yup, and the republicans never had any intention of doing anything about it when they were in power. I don’t know why but my guess is too many people wanted the cheap labor

  • writer

    So when Democrats were in office, anyone thinking of coming here illegally said ‘I’ll wait till a Republican is in office.’ All those millions only slipped in during Republican administrations.

  • dcmediasux

    Im a giant supporter of the UFW and they are trying to draw attention to their positions with this stunt and it worked…

    hell- Obama STOLE their motto – “Si se Puede” (YES WE CAN) even though the UFW was 1000% behing Hillary Clinton! (never heard that from the Obama-Media did ya?

    buen trabajo mis amigos! Realmente me encanta la luchadores por la UFW. Luchan por la gente que casi nadie en el Congreso le importa un comino … tal vez por eso es que Hillary respaldado con tanta fuerza en 2008. Obama no tiene no nada por ellos – pero el uso de su gente como peones políticos. Él no le importa un comino los trabajadores migrantes o gente de color en general. El hombre que odio a ese tipo – que es un fraude.

  • Dsiscokid

    Check out the 4:59 mark in the video. Sheila Jackson Lee loves that BlackBerry!

  • CosmosDan

    What does it say about the state of the media today that fake-newsman-cum-comedian Stephen Colbert’s testimony in front of Congress is, for many, a much bigger story than Jon Klein leaving as president of CNN?

    I wondering why the average person should care about cooperate dealings at the top of CNN. People in media, sure. Guy on the street. Who cares? Maybe the content will improve.

  • Azarkhan

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    Mexicans are taking over the casinos?

    Typical stupidity from people like you and SpineCrusher. Doesn’t merit an answer.

  • CosmosDan

    Dsiscokid said:
    Check out the 4:59 mark in the video. Sheila Jackson Lee loves that BlackBerry!

    I noticed that, Good catch by the cameraman too.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    So when Democrats were in office, anyone thinking of coming here illegally said ‘I’ll wait till a Republican is in office.’ All those millions only slipped in during Republican administrations.

    I’m going suggest you stop reading way more into a post than the words actually express. I didn’t say that or come anywhere near implying it.

  • More Liberty

    chucken said:
    As long as Mexico remains a poor country and the US has jobs that pay more than they could get in Mexico and employers want the cheap labor ot increase profits this will continue.And please note illegal immigrants with factory jobs get taxes taken out of there check and never file for a tax refund.I have seen the piles of returned W-2’s.

    Uh…yeah and they claim everything they can, or even exempt themselves where there is a way…..

  • notsofast

    So Colbert wants to give the illegals visas? What’s next- a MasterCard??

  • writer

    Yup, and the republicans never had any intention of doing anything about it when they were in power.

    Sorry, Cosmos. I must have mistaken your meaning.

  • dcmediasux

    hey notsofast…

    I truly understand the problems with illegal workers bringing down wages in the building trades and such because the contractors love to pay the lowest wage and exploiting workers -

    but we are talking farm workers here….there are very few americans willing to do this backbreaking labor for such low wages…the people who pick our verggies and fruit work harder than you or i or anybody we’ver ever known – they EARN their money and they are such good decent hard working folks that they send almost all of their money home to their moms and families.

    these are GOOD people….very, very good people.

  • NORBIT

    Breaking News:
    PROOF OF RACISM AT THE DOJ!!!

    “The Justice Department is ignoring civil rights cases that involve white victims and wrongly abandoned a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party last year, a top department official testified Friday. He called the department’s conduct a ‘travesty of justice.’ “

  • musiccityvic

    Publius219 said:
    “Don’t get up; we’ll show ourselves out.” – 2010 Democratic party

    This sums up the Democratic control that they are going to lose in less than 40 days, a bad joke and a waste of time.

    This will be followed by some hit pieces directed at Boehner accusing him of an affair or some sort of behavior to serve as a distraction. It might have worked with McCain but it isn’t going to work now. It will backfire like everything else the coordinated media and websites are going to try in the last of their desperate days. Watch and enjoy. I predict it will cost them even more seats.

  • musiccityvic

    moriarty70 said:
    Couched in between his jokes was a very honest testimony and it sounds like his written statement was much different, and legitimate. And as to the question at hand, no his testimony doesn’t make a mockery of it, as he reference to Elmo last night pointed out.

    I’d like to see his written statement since having a TV show on the Comedy Channel makes him the foremost authority on Illegal Immigration.

  • musiccityvic

    dcmediasux said:
    hey notsofast… I truly understand the problems with illegal workers bringing down wages in the building trades and such because the contractors love to pay the lowest wage and exploiting workers – but we are talking farm workers here….there are very few americans willing to do this backbreaking labor for such low wages…the people who pick our verggies and fruit work harder than you or i or anybody we’ver ever known – they EARN their money and they are such good decent hard working folks that they send almost all of their money home to their moms and families. these are GOOD people….very, very good people.

    We really don’t know if that is true, though I suspect your right, if we don’t close the border and work on something that makes sense for the security of the country not to mention the rule of law. Once the border is closed, then you deal with what to do with the people that are here. That is my opinion. You don’t talk about amnesty or any of these workers programs until you plug the hole.

  • dcmediasux

    the dailykos already is accusing hBoehner of an affair

    Lobbyist on rumored affair w/Boehner: “I have no comment”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9/23/143551/011

  • Not Your Typical New Yorker

    Jeez, I wonder who the DEMOCRAT CONGRESS will call on next for expert testimony. Maybe Lady GaGa on the nuclear arms race or Lindsay Lohan on the war on drugs, you know experts like that.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Yup, and the republicans never had any intention of doing anything about it when they were in power.

    Sorry, Cosmos. I must have mistaken your meaning.

    No problem.
    I know illegal immigration is an enormous issue for us and I think both parties have done a very poor job of addressing it. I remember watching a Governor from either AZ or NM years ago saying he had pleaded with the Bush admin to do something to stop the economic issues it was causing his state. He was told there were other considerations that couldn’t be discussed and nothing would be done.
    It might shock some of my liberal friends to learn that I’d consider a Constitutional amendment to change the anchor baby status, but I’d have to learn more. Either the baby is not a citizen simply because it was born here, or the babies citizenship has nothing to do with whether the parents get to stay. I confess , I’m pretty ignorant about immigration laws.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Azarkhan said:
    Typical stupidity from people like you and SpineCrusher. Doesn’t merit an answer.

    ok, so aside from my obvious joke, when you said

    Azarkhan said:
    In fact, they swarm all over America, taking over industry after industry from native Americans

    you must have been born here to get a job?

  • CosmosDan

    NORBIT said:
    Breaking News:
    PROOF OF RACISM AT THE DOJ!!!

    “The Justice Department is ignoring civil rights cases that involve white victims and wrongly abandoned a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party last year, a top department official testified Friday. He called the department’s conduct a ‘travesty of justice.’ ”

    This is a long long way from breaking news. This has been discussed at length and is just more BS suggestions of racism from the white house and DOJ. It’s pure crap.

  • Corvax

    And you wonder why people from both aisles are sick of politicians? Sad day in American history when an actor in character is allowed to be part of anything on an official congressional basis. Its not about what views were expressed or who controls congress right now, THE GUY WAS IN FUCKING CHARACTER!

    How pathetic, how do they even have time for such horseshit. Kudos for whomever the congressman was that asked him to leave. I am embarrassed to be an American when things like this happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Kelly/720731075 Chris Kelly

    The reader might want to note that I tried to make Colbert look bad *before* his appearance, and I got very little help with it:

    http://24ahead.com/n/10221

    I posted that Wednesday evening, including a list of things people could do. (And, that followed a June post criticizing what Colbert was pushing: 24ahead.com/n/10066 ).

    In the latest go round, among other things, I started an online petition which got all of three (3) signatures:

    act.ly/2f5

    I also posted here:

    freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2595102/posts

    Note the might-as-well-be-helping-Colbert comments.

    Consider this a learning experience.

  • CosmosDan

    dcmediasux said:
    the dailykos already is accusing hBoehner of an affair

    Lobbyist on rumored affair w/Boehner: “I have no comment”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9/23/143551/011

    every career has it’s groupies and temptations. I don’t think his personnel life has anything to with his job as Senator, but it will be hard for the GOP to remain values voters and claim the same.

  • Azarkhan

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    you must have been born here to get a job?

    Born here or immigrate here legally. Sounds like a pretty simple concept to me.
    But then I’m not trying to change the demographics of America and use racist indentity politics to retain power like the Democratic Party.

  • Azarkhan

    BTW, for all you leftist open-border fools out there: How do you reconcile your desire for unlimited immigration to America with your supposed love for the environment? After all, more people equals more degradation of our environment.

  • CosmosDan

    Chris Kelly said:
    The reader might want to note that I tried to make Colbert look bad *before* his appearance, and I got very little help with it:

    http://24ahead.com/n/10221

    I posted that Wednesday evening, including a list of things people could do. (And, that followed a June post criticizing what Colbert was pushing: 24ahead.com/n/10066 ).

    I think this from your link
    Further, millions of Americans are out of work, and Colbert is supporting illegal aliens taking jobs that Americans could and should be doing. Illegal labor depresses wages and reduces workplace conditions; with less illegal labor in the marketplace, more Americans would do farm work.
    is what the take our jobs program showed was incorrect. With all the unemployment we have few people wanted the jobs offered. If you’re suggesting raising wags to attract American workers consider what that will do to food prices. That’s part of the cycle we;ve created. The American public chooses to give jobs away when they won’t pay a little extra for American made. As a result, we make a lot less than we did years ago.

  • CosmosDan

    Azarkhan said:
    BTW, for all you leftist open-border fools out there: How do you reconcile your desire for unlimited immigration to America with your supposed love for the environment? After all, more people equals more degradation of our environment.

    Who suggested unlimited immigration? Be specific

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Azarkhan said:
    every career has it’s groupies and temptations. I don’t think his personnel life has anything to with his job as Senator, but it will be hard for the GOP to remain values voters and claim the same.

    Well thank you.
    That is a very valid argument.
    I am sorry you took such offense at my attempt at humor, I do see you take views from the left and answer with contempt and vulgarity, over spelling mistakes or other small issues, rather than the topic they are discussing. I have found that many of us would like to discuss issues from both sides.

    Now, I do agree that there are many jobs which can be taken by illegal aliens, which is a problem.
    I also find that many of the jobs are jobs that noone wants, or when the economy is good and unemployment is at record lows, this seems not to be such an issue from both sides of the aisle. Bush, and many republicans wanted an easier path, and the “dream act” was presented by a republican (during more prosperous times)

  • Azarkhan

    “every career has it’s groupies and temptations. I don’t think his personnel life has anything to with his job as Senator, but it will be hard for the GOP to remain values voters and claim the same.”

    I didn’t write that.

  • libra blue

    I used to watch Colbert and he can be a funny comedian, but this isn’t even funny, in fact it is embarrasingly dull.

    It was a waste of time and taxpayer money. This is a serious issue and should not have been treated as a laughing matter. If they really wanted to hear from someone who worked in the fields they should have interviewed CNN journalist Gary Tuchman who worked 8 hours in the fields with migrant farmers. At least he is a respected journalist.

  • Azarkhan

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    I do see you take views from the left and answer with contempt and vulgarity,

    Especially contempt.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Azarkhan said:
    Born here or immigrate here legally. Sounds like a pretty simple concept to me.
    But then I’m not trying to change the demographics of America and use racist indentity politics to retain power like the Democratic Party.

    sorry
    I was responding to this

  • writer

    All Colbert would have had to say is that people shouldn’t come here illegally, and employers shouldn’t take advantage of them if they do. Don’t mind a little humor, but bringing Colbert in to comment on the situation, especially after all that ‘boycott Arizona’ talk, has to be rubbing lots of people the wrong way.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    CosmosDan said to Chris Kelly:
    If you’re suggesting raising wags to attract American workers consider what that will do to food prices. That’s part of the cycle we;ve created. The American public chooses to give jobs away when they won’t pay a little extra for American made. As a result, we make a lot less than we did years ago.

    There used to be a Walmart commercial that grated my nerves. The spot featured a Walmart employee and a woman working at a factory that made Dial soap. At the end of the bit, the line worker would say that it was her job to make the best possible soap and then it cut to the Walmart employee, who said that it was her job to sell it at the lowest possible price.

    This always grated on my nerves because every penny off would be less money for both workers.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    NORBIT says: “Breaking News:
    PROOF OF RACISM AT THE DOJ!!!

    “The Justice Department is ignoring civil rights cases that involve white victims and wrongly abandoned a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party last year, a top department official testified Friday. He called the department’s conduct a ‘travesty of justice.’ ”

    The poison from Fox just never ends, does it? This BS meme has been worn out and debunked, Norbit. One suspects that the real racism lies in the race-baiting that keeps this dead story breathing.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    writer said:
    All Colbert would have had to say is that people shouldn’t come here illegally, and employers shouldn’t take advantage of them if they do. Don’t mind a little humor, but bringing Colbert in to comment on the situation, especially after all that ‘boycott Arizona’ talk, has to be rubbing lots of people the wrong way.

    I agree writer.
    Although I found his statements funny, I think the venue was inappropriate.
    1 positive for you though. The “right” gets a field day pointing this out.

  • writer

    no-touchy, was ‘field day’ appropriate, seeing as how this article deals so much with farm laborers?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Your tax dollars at work, folks.

  • Corvax

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    I agree writer.
    Although I found his statements funny, I think the venue was inappropriate.
    1 positive for you though. The “right” gets a field day pointing this out.

    I dont think being offended by Colbert in character should be a right or left thing. All Americans in my opinion should be offended that somebody in character was allowed to testify in a legit congressional function. Its totally embarrassing to me and I bet other countries must be snickering at how pathetic we are at times when stuff like this happens. I dont see the Germans having Hasselhoff in character or the French having Jerry Lewis show up to their official government functions. Remarkable… But hey maybe Im in the minority on this, I hope im not.

  • writer

    Hasselhoff testifying in Germany has international incident written all over it.

  • RichS

    Someone referred to native Americans, someone else, mocking the first writer, commented on Native Americans. The commenter used Native Americans twice. A native American is someone who was born here, look in a dictionary. A Native American is a stupid politically correct construct. My cousins, who are Lakota, refer to themselves as Indians or American Indians or Lakota. I’ll follow their lead rather than the commenters lead.

  • Azarkhan

    RichS said:
    A native American is someone who was born here, look in a dictionary. A Native American is a stupid politically correct construct.

    Thanks RichS. I knew SpineCrusher was being a total fool, but I didn’t pop his bubble.

  • dcmediasux

    you are right – ive worked on the rez registering voters…tribes call themselves by their name and collectively “indians”

    or examplehttp://www.indiancountrytoday.com/

  • writer

    And of course ‘Indian’ was a misnomer in the first place, brought on by Columbus thinking he was going to India.

  • musiccityvic

    Moderate said:
    The local packing company pays their all Mexican workforce $12 per hour, under the previous owner workers were paid $25 per hour. 40 workers were discovered living in one house. In this case the capitalist system is just not working.

    thats the case of laws not being enforced on the EMPLOYERS.

  • CosmosDan

    Magister said:
    There used to be a Walmart commercial that grated my nerves. The spot featured a Walmart employee and a woman working at a factory that made Dial soap. At the end of the bit, the line worker would say that it was her job to make the best possible soap and then it cut to the Walmart employee, who said that it was her job to sell it at the lowest possible price.

    This always grated on my nerves because every penny off would be less money for both workers.

    One of the most revealing moments of the American mindset was IMHO when WalMArt got busted for lying about all the stuff they said was American made. They were busted and exposed nationally, and yet, their shoppers didn’t really care. It’s cheap and they didn’t care where it cam from as long as they saved a buck. The tragic part is they couldn’t see the ;long term connection and effect of that mindset. A gigantic loss in American manufacturing over the next couple of decades. Certainly Wal Mart deserves some of the blame, but sadly, the short sightedness of the American consumer also had a big effect.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    writer said:
    And of course ‘Indian’ was a misnomer in the first place, brought on by Columbus thinking he was going to India.

    I was thinking, “Duh”, but given the state of American education, and especially in history, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s people who don’t actually know this.

  • musiccityvic

    CosmosDan said:
    every career has it’s groupies and temptations. I don’t think his personnel life has anything to with his job as Senator, but it will be hard for the GOP to remain values voters and claim the same.

    your automatically assuming it is true. this is the daily kos we are talking about here. The GOP and the DEMS should be values voters. Unfortunately, we assume he is guilty due to the past history in both parties. The people in washington are just not much to be excited about and it is the fault of the voters, and gerrymandered districting on both sides.

  • CAconservative

    Zoe Lofgren set this debacle up. She, and this less than funny waist of time is indicative of Ms.Lofgren. In this example of her leadership, she invites a comedian to waist the time of this board. It’s time to retire Ms.Lofgren. She’s a waist of time!!

  • Tater Salad

    I don’t see the bog deal here with having Colbert tesifying in a Democratically controlled Congress. The Comedy Central routine was appropriate with the Democrats who are in charge and have shown the same disregard with Congress and tax dollars starting when they closed the doors of transparency to the voters of America during the healthcare debate. Keep up the good work because you will become unemployed in November and then again in 2012. That is a promise. You want to make a mockery of us, the taxpayers who are footing the bill then you can do it from your own front porch.

  • Corvax

    CosmosDan said:
    One of the most revealing moments of the American mindset was IMHO when WalMArt got busted for lying about all the stuff they said was American made. They were busted and exposed nationally, and yet, their shoppers didn’t really care. It’s cheap and they didn’t care where it cam from as long as they saved a buck. The tragic part is they couldn’t see the ;long term connection and effect of that mindset. A gigantic loss in American manufacturing over the next couple of decades. Certainly Wal Mart deserves some of the blame, but sadly, the short sightedness of the American consumer also had a big effect.

    Im not gonna deny there are plenty of people that still shop in those stores. I however do not support Walmart for those reasons you listed and others as well.

  • CosmosDan

    Corvax said:
    I dont think being offended by Colbert in character should be a right or left thing. All Americans in my opinion should be offended that somebody in character was allowed to testify in a legit congressional function. Its totally embarrassing to me and I bet other countries must be snickering at how pathetic we are at times when stuff like this happens. I dont see the Germans having Hasselhoff in character or the French having Jerry Lewis show up to their official government functions. Remarkable… But hey maybe Im in the minority on this, I hope im not.

    of all the things that congress does I find this 5 minute episode pretty unoffensive.If it is indeed a waste then there’s about 10,000 others things ahead of it on the list. OTOH if because of his presence people ask, “what was he testifying about?” then it’s worth the 5 minutes. I feel pretty sure a few people did ask.

  • notsofast

    Repubs: Call Dee Snider of Twisted Sister as a rebuttal witness!

  • CosmosDan

    musiccityvic said:
    your automatically assuming it is true. this is the daily kos we are talking about here. The GOP and the DEMS should be values voters. Unfortunately, we assume he is guilty due to the past history in both parties. The people in washington are just not much to be excited about and it is the fault of the voters, and gerrymandered districting on both sides.

    I’m not assuming anything, so please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t care of it’s true or not because I don’t think it’s relevant. Just like I didn’t think it was relevant for Clinton. If your personal life seriously affects your ability to do your job that’s one thing. Other than that it’s none of my business and I have no morbid curiosity to know. I simply don’t care.

  • notsofast

    dcmediasux said:
    hey notsofast…

    these are GOOD people….very, very good people.

    That’s interesting; I looked at all my comments and I did not say one word about these workers being bad.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @CosmosDan & Corvax: I’ve studied the Walmart phenomenon so much, I consider myself a lay expert, but I still have to occasionally make a conscious effort to do my shopping with more than one stop because Bentonville already gets so much of my money.

    i consider myself square in the middle when it comes to Walmart. I know what’s good, what’s bad and I’m in awe of their system, but I’d also wouldn’t mind a great deal, if they raised the price of soap by ten cents.

  • Corvax

    CosmosDan said:
    of all the things that congress does I find this 5 minute episode pretty unoffensive.If it is indeed a waste then there’s about 10,000 others things ahead of it on the list. OTOH if because of his presence people ask, “what was he testifying about?” then it’s worth the 5 minutes. I feel pretty sure a few people did ask.

    There are plenty of stupid things that congress spends time on, having some actor on that is in character is probably the lowest. Nothing he said bothered me, the fact he was there in character is the real issue I have. Its a real low point when they stop bickering about stupid things amongst themselves while being themselves, its another when they have “fake” people there to add to it.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Corvax said:
    I dont think being offended by Colbert in character should be a right or left thing. All Americans in my opinion should be offended that somebody in character was allowed to testify in a legit congressional function. Its totally embarrassing to me and I bet other countries must be snickering at how pathetic we are at times when stuff like this happens. I dont see the Germans having Hasselhoff in character or the French having Jerry Lewis show up to their official government functions. Remarkable… But hey maybe Im in the minority on this, I hope im not.

    I totally agree.
    I was pointing out that the Right will run with it. the left will not.
    Hypocrisy from both “sides” you know. If our elected leaders could talk like you and I have just done, perhaps things would be completely different.
    I also believe that both sides make good tax/no-tax arguments, the taxes we do collect would be more efficiently spent if we had term limits, and fewer (or no)lobbying.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    More Liberty says: “The system lives on debt that will have to be repaid by the grandchildren of current taxpayers. That is a mockery.”

    You need to get the facts about the national debt. The most objective analysis I’ve read online comes from zfacts.
    http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
    Read the FAQs at the bottom. The author is a scientist, not a partisan.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    notsofast said:
    Repubs: Call Dee Snider of Twisted Sister as a rebuttal witness!

    Dee already testified at the PMRC hearings.

  • notsofast

    Magister said:
    Dee already testified at the PMRC hearings.

    I know- that’s why I want him back.

  • Corvax

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    I totally agree.
    I was pointing out that the Right will run with it. the left will not.
    Hypocrisy from both “sides” you know. If our elected leaders could talk like you and I have just done, perhaps things would be completely different.
    I also believe that both sides make good tax/no-tax arguments, the taxes we do collect would be more efficiently spent if we had term limits, and fewer (or no)lobbying.

    Not for nothing but of course the left wont run with it, arent they the ones that invited him?

  • musiccityvic

    CosmosDan said:
    I’m not assuming anything, so please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t care of it’s true or not because I don’t think it’s relevant. Just like I didn’t think it was relevant for Clinton. If your personal life seriously affects your ability to do your job that’s one thing. Other than that it’s none of my business and I have no morbid curiosity to know. I simply don’t care.

    Poor choice of the word “you”. Should have used “everyone” or “spin doctors” or etc, etc. We are in agreement on this issue and i think it is bad politics at the very least and sewer level tactics at the worst.

  • StandUp

    Next up- William Shatner testifying on NASA funding.

  • musiccityvic

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    I totally agree.I was pointing out that the Right will run with it. the left will not.Hypocrisy from both “sides” you know. If our elected leaders could talk like you and I have just done, perhaps things would be completely different.I also believe that both sides make good tax/no-tax arguments, the taxes we do collect would be more efficiently spent if we had term limits, and fewer (or no)lobbying.

    I think Term Limits would neutralize Lobbyists for the most part, which would be a very good thing. No one can tell me that Robert Byrd or Strom Thurmond had all their faculties at the end and they weren’t sent there to have the leader of the party or an aide tell them how to vote. It’s going to be a long dig out of the hole

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Corvax said:
    Not for nothing but of course the left wont run with it, arent they the ones that invited him?

    Oh, please don’t get me wrong. When I said the Right will run with it. the left will not, I was truly pointing out the hypocrisy from the “left”. Thats why I added Hypocrisy from both “sides” you know.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    musiccityvic said:
    I think Term Limits would neutralize Lobbyists for the most part, which would be a very good thing.

    Adgred

    musiccityvic said:
    No one can tell me that Robert Byrd or Strom Thurmond

    or MANY of our politicians I have seen on television since my teens (1970′s)

    musiccityvic said:
    It’s going to be a long dig out of the hole

    YES. And how do you start. What career politician will vote to kill their own job. What politician in the pocket of a “lobby” will do so? When I was young I remember studying that politicians were there for us and their pay was not that out of line with the American public. Look at it now.

  • notsofast

    The problem with BHO is that when he is asked a question, he replies in character.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    “In her opening statements, the chairwoman of the immigration subcommittee, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), compared Colbert to Bono. She thanked him for using his celebrity to illuminate the plight of undocumented farm workers, who make up 50 to 75 percent of seasonal crop workers.”

    Next year, after the Republican Tea Party takes Congress, they’ll have Beck in to testify about tax laws.

  • notsofast

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Next year, after the Republican Tea Party takes Congress, they’ll have Beck in to testify about tax laws.

    Or about gold!

    LOL

  • writer

    Saying Columbus thought he was going to India gets thumbs down? Tough crowd.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    The people who complain about illegal immigrants didn’t line up to take their jobs when they were offered. Sixteen people took up the challenge. Sixteen new seasonal migrant field workers from a conservative base of at least 20 million with delusions that illegal immigrants have taken jobs they actually WANT. Can we drop the histrionics now?

  • felixw

    The “progressives” show up in numbers whenever there is an article on Colbert or Stewart on Mediaite. This tells you about the state of the Left in America today. Buffoons are their opinion leaders — Colbert, Stewart, Maher, Olbermann, Moore, etc. And then there’s the guy in the Oval Office, who isn’t even good for a laugh.

    Watch the results in November, and see how the voters pick the serious people and throw out the people who think Congress is a place for comedy. Next year we will have a Congress that won’t come with a built-in laugh track.

  • writer

    The jobs argument deflects from the fact that every other country on earth has immigration laws and doesn’t just let people come and go at will. It’s illegal to sneak into the country whether you’re a surgeon or a field hand.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    musiccityvic said:
    I think Term Limits would neutralize Lobbyists for the most part

    They do exactly the opposite – lobbyists and entrenched bureaucrats wind up taking advantage of a Congress heavily weighted with inexperienced policy-makers. They have their way with the newbies. I agree that some Senators stay long past their expiration date, but I think that speaks more to the need for a better voting process than a need for term limits.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Pomeroy/756522502 Bob Pomeroy

    I think the low brow pronouncement that these necessary workers are illegal is the most outlandishly funny part of these hearings. Colbert’s testimony in character only emphasized that point. It’s both ludicrous and hypocritical, meanwhile hundreds die in the desert. hee fing haw.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    writer said:
    The jobs argument deflects from the fact that every other country on earth has immigration laws and doesn’t just let people come and go at will. It’s illegal to sneak into the country whether you’re a surgeon or a field hand.

    Yeah, America has those laws, too. That’s why it’s called “illegal immigration.” And every other industrialized country has illegal immigration problems, too. And Americans go willy-nilly over the Canadian border all the time. No it doesn’t deflect from those “facts” because those “facts” deflect themselves. Why aren’t the scum business owners, who lure illegal immigrants to America so they can exploit cheap labor and diminish workers’ wages across the board, ever on the reactionary hit list?

  • writer

    Businesses that hire illegals should be fined, and illegals deported.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Paul Westlake said:
    lobbyists and entrenched bureaucrats wind up taking advantage of a Congress heavily weighted with inexperienced policy-makers.

    bureaucrats yes
    please explain how lobbyists would take advantag

  • writer

    I heard that next time, congress is inviting Carrot Top to discuss Iran.

  • musiccityvic

    Paul Westlake said:
    Yeah, America has those laws, too. That’s why it’s called “illegal immigration.” And every other industrialized country has illegal immigration problems, too. And Americans go willy-nilly over the Canadian border all the time. No it doesn’t deflect from those “facts” because those “facts” deflect themselves. Why aren’t the scum business owners, who lure illegal immigrants to America so they can exploit cheap labor and diminish workers’ wages across the board, ever on the reactionary hit list?

    Paul, first I’d like to say that I appreciate your discourse even if I don’t agree with much of it on an ideological basis. I’d rather have a debate than what normally happens here and on most other sites.

    I don’t think the “average” voters have any issue with going after businesses, in fact I’d prefer that while they are securing the border that the focus be on cutting of the employers and putting them in jail with large fines. I don’t agree with you on the term limits and lobbyist deal. I think the legislator would be more accountable to the people he/she represents. Again, it is the fault of the people in the long run because we have a chance to secure our own term limits with a vote every 2, 4, and 6 years.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    musiccityvic said:
    I’d rather have a debate than what normally happens here and on most other sites.

    Agreed, wonderful to see and I thank you for sending me a link to information you presented.

    musiccityvic said:
    Again, it is the fault of the people in the long run because we have a chance to secure our own term limits with a vote every 2, 4, and 6 years.

    Yes, but in our 2 party system and everyone wanting to stay in power (especially the party as a whole) the is no other choice except someone who “claims” to be of your point of view.

  • rshaw

    OMG .. who is next?? Lady Gaga??

  • rshaw

    Could this be considered the Democrats “jumping the shark” moment?

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Let me get this straight, a shock-jock rodeo clown morphs into God’s speakerphone on Earth and that’s being a great American, but a satirical comedian appears in character before a Congressional committee by that committee’s request, to talk about something he actually experienced, and that’s un-American.

    Well, OK, you wascally wabbits! LOL!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    please explain how lobbyists would take advantag

    They know the ropes, know how to “get things done.” They convince newbies that “this is how it’s done all the time” as they insert language the Congress critter doesn’t understand. That’s when we hear critters getting tripped up and playing dumb about their own legislation, from both parties, BTW: “Gee, I didn’t know THAT was in there.” Really they mean, “Gee, that’s not what the lobbyists TOLD me it meant.” Happens all the time, even to experienced policymakers. Imagine what fresh meat newbies represent to these guys.

  • writer

    Who said it was un-American? Having Colbert testify on immigration makes about as much sense as having Charo give a talk on nuclear physics, but it’s not un-American.

  • no-touchy-touchy

    Paul Westlake said:
    They know the ropes, know how to “get things done.” They convince newbies that “this is how it’s done all the time” as they insert language the Congress critter doesn’t understand. That’s when we hear critters getting tripped up and playing dumb about their own legislation, from both parties, BTW: “Gee, I didn’t know THAT was in there.” Really they mean, “Gee, that’s not what the lobbyists TOLD me it meant.” Happens all the time, even to experienced policymakers. Imagine what fresh meat newbies represent to these guys.

    Yes, but if you are new and know this does it not make the newbie tentative. Especially if one is made out to look stupid for doing so? Or back to my original idea – term limits AND no lobby.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    musiccityvic said:
    Paul, first I’d like to say that I appreciate your discourse even if I don’t agree with much of it on an ideological basis. I’d rather have a debate than what normally happens here and on most other sites.

    I don’t think the “average” voters have any issue with going after businesses, in fact I’d prefer that while they are securing the border that the focus be on cutting of the employers and putting them in jail with large fines. I don’t agree with you on the term limits and lobbyist deal. I think the legislator would be more accountable to the people he/she represents. Again, it is the fault of the people in the long run because we have a chance to secure our own term limits with a vote every 2, 4, and 6 years.

    Thanks for the civil comment and I return the sentiment.

    I agree regarding the average voter (which is why I singled out reactionaries for that comment). What you describe is closer to the comprehensive immigration reform I, and most liberals, favor.

    On the lobbyist front, many studies have been done on this subject, with lots of good data over the years. It has consistently shown that legislation gets more complicated and heavier with special interest pork when legislators are less experienced, at nearly every level of government. Whereas, experienced legislators still get pork, but the kind of pork they can campaign on, not the kind that they get burned on. But I think we both agree on wanting a more effective and less susceptible policy-making process. I don’t have any links to those studies at the moment. But I’m sure you have sources you trust for stuff like that. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    writer said:
    Who said it was un-American? Having Colbert testify on immigration makes about as much sense as having Charo give a talk on nuclear physics, but it’s not un-American.

    Hard to tell. But still, he actually did check out that program and the Congress wanted to hear what his experiences were. I think the uptight reaction to a microdot of humor on the Hill is totally over-the-top, from everyone, including Conyers. Congress think they can mask what a joke they are by banning comedy? Yeah, no. That’s not a left-right thing. That’s an ego Congress thing. Ass holes.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    no-touchy-touchy said:
    Yes, but if you are new and know this does it not make the newbie tentative. Especially if one is made out to look stupid for doing so? Or back to my original idea – term limits AND no lobby.

    You’d think newbies would be tentative. But they’re also eager to please and “get along.” It’s a rough mix. Without lobbyists, I think term limits would be unnecessary, plus, the bureaucrats are still there. It’s really hard to turnover the bureaucratic corps with any alacrity.

  • 123456788

    I cant believe half of the garbage that has accumulated under this story. A huge amount of people are only looking at the performance. look a little deeper. Satire, when done right, strikes at the root of the problem. This is satire done right. His testimony and responses were for the most part crisp and informative. His message was always apparent. He was asked to appear in character people! I give him credit for standing up to those pompous and completely idiotic failures who claim to represent America.

  • notsofast

    GlennBeckReview said:
    The poison from Fox just never ends, does it? This BS meme has been worn out and debunked, Norbit. One suspect

    You are a truly ignorant man. This was the testimony from a top DOJ attorney, not something FOX made-up.

    You are nothing but an Obamarobot!.

  • notsofast

    Yes, Colbert! The USA is FORCING illegals to come here!

  • musiccityvic

    Paul Westlake said:
    Let me get this straight, a shock-jock rodeo clown morphs into God’s speakerphone on Earth and that’s being a great American, but a satirical comedian appears in character before a Congressional committee by that committee’s request, to talk about something he actually experienced, and that’s un-American. Well, OK, you wascally wabbits! LOL!

    I wouldn’t have had as big a problem with it though I don’t think he is a credible source for a Congressional hearing if he actually appeared as himself, not his character. As far as Glenn Beck goes, I’m sure you don’t like what he says or does, and I’m not sure if you have even listened to the show, The times I have listened to the radio show when he is laying out his argument he tells you to look at the sources yourself. I think many people have and he has exposed the backgrounds of many of Obama’s many Czars and Advisors. I think he has brought the Founding Fathers, Rules for Radicals, and much of the Social Justice movement to light. I say review it all, believe what you believe and let the chips fall where they may. A former shock jock or a Community Organizer, it doesn’t make any difference to me.

  • CosmosDan

    felixw said:
    The “progressives” show up in numbers whenever there is an article on Colbert or Stewart on Mediaite. This tells you about the state of the Left in America today. Buffoons are their opinion leaders — Colbert, Stewart, Maher, Olbermann, Moore, etc. And then there’s the guy in the Oval Office, who isn’t even good for a laugh.

    .

    And who exactly are your opinion leaders that are not buffoons?

  • CosmosDan

    musiccityvic said:
    I think Term Limits would neutralize Lobbyists for the most part, which would be a very good thing. No one can tell me that Robert Byrd or Strom Thurmond had all their faculties at the end and they weren’t sent there to have the leader of the party or an aide tell them how to vote. It’s going to be a long dig out of the hole

    I’m not opposed to a consideration of term limits but I think campaign funding is where we need to make some serious changes first.

  • hijinx60

    COLBERT THE COMIC…FIT RIGHT IN WITH CONGRESS.

  • http://none pyrope

    CosmosDan said:
    He wasn’t paid at all, and he paid all his own expenses as well. He got free water though, so I assume you’re outraged about that.

    Dan, I’m not outraged by those things you mentioned, I am outraged that our government allowed what was basically a comic routine to proceed in an official setting in a place that is supported by our tax dollars. I suppose my perspective is they’re giving us “bread and circuses.”

    Actually, that is only half correct; they’re taking our “bread” and putting on a circus.

  • http://none pyrope

    CosmosDan said:
    I’m not opposed to a consideration of term limits but I think campaign funding is where we need to make some serious changes first.

    If you’re talking about campaign finance reform in terms of prohibiting donations from foreign sources, or donations from hundreds of dishwashers working in Chinese restaurants who can’t speak English and are mostly non-citizens, yet each giving the maximum personal donation, I’m on board with that.

  • Latin2

    I will tell you something about Colbert’s testimony and video that most people don’t know.

    In the early mid 60s the fruits and vegetables USED TO BE PICKED BY AMERICANS. Many of them Mexican – AMERICANS.

    Then during Johnson’s Great Society the Left created the vast Welfare program to have as many poor people to get Welfare. The majority of those who used to pick went on Welfare and “hid their husbands”.

    At the same time UFW union tried to make a ploy to have Mexican-American sign up for the Union which would make the food more expensive.

    The Great Society planned DESTROYED homes of those who used to pick in California. The homes used to be headed by men and made family units.

    But because of Welfare women didn’t need men, they wanted “boys” who would stay with them and not work. Because if they worked they would lose their Welfare. Thus DESTROYING the family dynamics. Since men could not work they found ILLEGAL ways to make money, ie; selling drugs or ripping off cars, etc…

    Farmers could now not get anyone to pick, and those people used to be Mexican-American families or Filipino-Americans…but because of a ‘free’ Welfare check the farmers could not get anyone…so they had to get ILLEGALS.

    It was the Liberal policies that destroyed Latino families in those areas and it spread and because of these policies brought in millions of Illegal aliens.

    Liberal policies created gangs and pushed drug selling and other “illegal” activities by creating Welfare. Welfare turned the old family unit UPSIDE DOWN and destroyed the poor in all areas of the country.

    The Left created a vast DEPENDENT class. Dependent on government and crime.

  • Diannana

    1. Colbert did not “persist” in staying. He said he would be glad to leave, but he was there on invitation of the chair, and would like it to be her decision. She said she would like for him to stay. If you actually watched the video you posted with your article, you’d realize that.

    2. As Colbert’s written statement, Conyers himself points out, differs greatly from the statement he read before Congress, my best guess is that he agreed to do the testimony only if he could stay in character. The “Colbert” we see on the Colbert Report is, as has been suggested in the past, different from Colbert in real life, doing a real-life appearance outside of character would have broken the illusion and hurt his show. It wasn’t a mockery as the press in the committee room was still kept very much in line, and what Colbert said, though it fell flat, was actually pretty relevant to the discussion.

    3. He may not be the most qualified person to comment, but he definitely had thrown his weight behind UWF’s “Take Our Jobs” campaign, and spent a lot of time working with Arturo and the committee chair over the summer. This was not, as many media outlets would have you believe, the result of having them on his show for one interview. It was rather the culmination of a 4 month long relationship with the UWF, and studying the issue of migrant workers.

    4. I think it brings attention to a big issue – even with the Take Our Jobs campaign, only 16 Americans volunteered. That’s a big deal, and watching the hearing does a lot for teaching about the important issues facing fruit and vegetable production in the US today.

  • DEFENDER-90

    @Latin2——In 1973 the United Farm Worker’s set up a “wet line” along th US Mexico border to prevent Mexican immigrant’s from entering the US illegally and potentially undermining the UFW. Members of the UFW under the guidance of Cesar chavez’s cousin, phyically attacked strikebreakers(illegai’s)after attempts to peacefully persuade them not to cross the border failed.

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    Latin2 says: “The Left created a vast DEPENDENT class. Dependent on government and crime.”

    You have now ventured into the fact-free opinion zone. One of the points Colbert made was that the salaries for farm workers need to be raised to make it worth it for Americans to do this work.

  • beavoux

    John Conyers sounds like HE left a long time ago!

  • Bunny

    I love Colbert — he is one of the funniest guys ever — but I do feel like his appearance in character at the hearing made a mockery of the process. All the jokes he made would work perfectly on his show, but in the context of that hearing, it felt “cringe-worthy,” as noted in the article. Still, he was there at the invitation of a member of Congress, so it’s not his fault so much as the person who set it all up.

    I watched the entire hearing and was really taken aback by Conyers. Even we in the south don’t think and talk that slowly. Maybe he wasn’t well that day or something, but he seemed so zoned out and weird. It amazes me sometimes the people we have elected to run this country (both parties).

  • magicbeans

    We have serious problems in this country and issues that deserve serious consideration and the fact that we bring in a “character” to testify is just insulting beyond words. But its not Colberts fault. He was invited after all by a Democrat Representative. Its just sad that its come to this. I think the whole thing makes Democrats look as if they don’t take the issues facing the USA seriously. At least to the grown ups. The kids probably think it fantastic but they also think watching Jon Stewart is the same as watching the news.

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